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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
Deliver us from evil!
We have become a drug-infested, crime-ridden nation which is incapable of solving Even the smallest, smallest problem, we have to bring in the death penalty if we want to stop the infestation of drugs coming into our country.
In a victory for the Biden administration, the Supreme Court ruled that border patrol agents can remove razor wire put in place along a stretch of the southern border in Texas.
The Supreme Court's narrowly divided ruling came after an emergency request from the Biden administration that argued the wire was endangering migrants while preventing law enforcement from patrolling the area.
To stop the deadly drugs that are poisoning our people, I will deploy U.S.
Navy to impose a full fentanyl blockade.
A big decision on Monday that could impact the Fulton County election indictment happening miles away in a Cobb County courtroom.
The secretive case of Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade's divorce, secret no more.
Donald Trump is not leading the Republican Party and leading the Republican field of candidates because of his youthful vigor.
If you pick me, that'll be the end of politics.
And you won't have to deal with politics anymore.
You'll have a strongman leader and I'll just do what I want.
That strongman model is what the Republican base is enthused about.
You know, the state was very good to me.
This is, by the way, the most exciting of all.
I think there's more enthusiasm now than I've ever seen.
No one in the country right now cares.
In fact, most of the people in the country are going to the Trump rally right now because he's listening to them.
No one's asking about this stuff.
I'm just frustrated.
I hope you understand why.
I'm getting tired of it.
You're doing your jobs, but you're not asking the questions that Americans give a s**t about.
Instead of voting for Haley, I voted for Donald Trump this morning.
You should have voted this morning!
Why?
I think the primary's over.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
Today is January 23rd, 2024.
Anno Domini.
Folks, I understand we're all upset about the Supreme Court decision that came out last night.
I'm outraged about this.
This is disgusting.
And in fact, when you look at the ruling, which came in 5-4, it appears that all five of the women on the Supreme Court voted the exact same way.
You see, we were wondering, we were wondering so much, how would it go with Amy Coney Barrett on the Supreme Court, on the bench?
A lot of people point out she's conservative.
They said she's a pro-lifer.
That's good enough.
Well, it turns out that, you see, and I can say this as a Catholic, we have this sort of strain in Catholics where their pro-life Okay, so they're conservative on that issue, but they're pretty liberal on just about everything else.
It's an issue.
We're dealing with it.
They're basically social justice warrior Catholics.
I'm not saying that she's exactly one of them, but it is certainly a concern.
John Zmirak wrote a piece at humanevents.com that everyone can go see.
Raising that exact same question.
But here's the point, folks.
The lawyers are not going to save you.
The law sells— You think that you're going to put your trust in a lawyer?
You're going to put your trust in somebody that hides behind pieces of paper?
That hides behind words?
Someone that's going to go and go into court and make their, you know, make their speech, make their hearing?
That's the person that you think is going to save the country?
In any of these instances?
No, it's simply not.
It's just not.
Okay?
I'm not saying all lawyers are bad.
Lawyers are a necessity.
I get that.
But let me tell you something.
This movement and this country will not be saved if we put all our chips in the basket of lawyers and turning to the lawyers for everything.
It's not going to work.
It never was going to work.
And it certainly won't work Now, this country was founded through use of arms, by the way.
It wasn't founded by lawyers.
So, what do I mean to say about this?
It's simple, folks.
And I see a lot of people now taking the black pill.
I see a lot of black pillers saying, oh, well, just go to the red states, and we can hide in the red states, and the blue states will get worse, and the red states will get worse.
You mean like Texas?
You mean like Texas?
Because Texas is a red state.
Republicans control everything in Texas.
And yet, Texas is still having these issues.
And here's the difference.
Because the national government will still come for you regardless of what state you're in.
One state governor?
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe there could be an interesting thing there.
But even then, the national government is still going to come.
A coalition of state governments!
Why not a coalition of them, you say?
No, there's another way.
And I see a lot of people wanting to turn away from this path because it's hard, because it's challenging, and it's arduous.
That's called take over the national government.
Well, I've spent the last eight years of my life committed to this project.
And I know a lot of people in this audience have as well.
And you know what?
We are so close.
We are so close right now to fully taking over the national government and doing what must be done.
And we are not going to let these people get in our way ever again.
Stay tuned.
We've got a huge show today.
Senator Ron Johnson will join us later in the hour.
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Alright, let me tell you something, guys.
Let me tell you something right now.
No blackpilling.
You understand that?
There will be no blackpilling.
I see one of you guys blackpiling.
I said catch one of you guys blackpilling.
There's going to be trouble out there.
Absolute trouble for you and yours.
There's no blackpilling in here.
It is not going to happen.
By the way, I'm told from the producers, our producer Faz says that we might be getting a very special guest soon.
Not the Senator.
Someone that's a surprise guest from New Hampshire might be joining us in a few minutes.
I'm going to leave it at that for right now, folks, because I don't like to throw stuff out that isn't confirmed.
So we might be getting a special guest.
All right?
I'm not going to promise you something that I can't deliver.
But here's the thing, folks.
Here's the thing.
I don't want to hear this blackmailing.
I don't want to hear it.
The task is arduous.
The work is hard.
Guess what, boys and girls?
That's why it's called work.
You don't give up just because you get hit with something.
By the way, this Supreme Court decision, you understand this isn't even the final decision on the case, the final ruling.
This was involving an emergency injunction.
that came up during the course of the appeal at the Fifth Circuit.
What does this mean?
This means that the Fifth Circuit hasn't even finished their ruling on the case.
That's still up for debate.
Okay, that's still open.
Then after that, if it gets appealed again, depending on how it shakes out, if it gets appealed again, then there would be a full Supreme Court ruling.
Okay?
So, understand, the game is never over just because you lose one match.
Okay?
The game is only over when you stop fighting.
And around here, we don't stop fighting.
We never stop fighting.
We're not interested in stopping fighting.
Look, people say, why don't you just give up and move somewhere?
And I want to move somewhere.
I want right now.
I want right now, and I want to win.
And that's why, when I see Donald Trump, and he's on trial, and they pull him into New York, and then they pull him down to Georgia, and they pull him back to DC, and he goes to the hearings.
And then he flies up to New Hampshire.
He doesn't quit.
He never quits.
He never stops.
This energy is more than anything that I have ever seen.
Ladies and gentlemen, Eric Trump joins us now from New Hampshire with Ben Berquam.
Guys, how's it going there?
Amazing.
Jack, we're gonna have a great night tonight.
There's no question about it.
So it's going well.
The energy in the state's pretty awesome.
I just went over a bunch of the polling locations and it's fun to see.
A lot of Trump signs everywhere we drive.
I mean, everywhere we drive there were Trump signs all over the place.
Awesome energy and I think you have a lot of people who want their country back.
You have, you know, a lot of people who are upset.
I know that Joe Biden is the worst president that we've ever seen and, you know, want to get somebody competent in office.
Want Donald Trump back?
Desperately.
I mean, desperately is probably an understatement.
Yeah, I just came from Londonderry and the crowd over there was with President Trump.
The crowd was massive.
You know, they're all out there.
I saw one Nikki Haley sign and I probably saw 300 President Trump signs.
Hundreds of Trump supporters out there.
We've been all over the state.
Jack, it's incredible.
And what's interesting Eric is that, you know, the issues, when you talk to people about the issues, I do a lot of border work, and everybody up here, you ask them top two issues, it's border and economy, and they don't trust Biden on any of it.
I mean, they know he's just a traitor to our country.
Well, he is.
And listen, border encapsulates so many things, right?
It's not just people coming over.
It's people's jobs.
It's pay.
It's a fentanyl crisis.
I lost a good friend's son the other day to the fentanyl crisis.
I mean, it touches everybody.
It touches every community.
There's no question.
But beyond that, you see World War III effectively breaking out around the world.
You see what happened to Russia and Ukraine.
You see what happened to Israel.
Now you see what's happening in the Middle East.
You're probably going to have something with China.
You know, literally, the world's becoming unstable under kind of American weakness because you have a weak guy in office.
You have a guy who isn't focused on the economy.
You have inflation that, you know, for the last four years, three years, has greatly outpaced wage growth in our economies.
Not doing well.
We're losing our manufacturing.
There is that invasion on the southern border.
Over 10 million people have come across the southern border.
These are not just people from Central and South America.
You're seeing passports and currency and everything else from all over the world right now.
These people are going to bring in real issues.
We have no idea who they are, and they're not doing a damn thing about it.
In fact, they're cutting razor wires, we speak right now, to allow those people in after this, you know, horrendous Supreme Court ruling, people are sick and tired of the nonsense.
I mean, we don't look strong in the in the eyes of the world.
We've lost all our respect around the world.
We're losing the U.S. currency.
You know, you have a president who vacations 40 percent of the time.
He's more concerned about, you know, six foot five men swimming in, you know, women's sports than he is on our military, on our country, on our borders, on the things that actually matter.
And we're losing the American dream in this country.
And that's what we as a now fighting so hard to try and save the American dream.
Now, when you guys are going down there, obviously you're talking to voters.
Eric, you've been crisscrossing the state.
Your father, of course, speaking at events in between these hearings that they're subjecting him through, like the 12 Labors of Hercules.
But, you know, when you're talking to the voters, specifically even today as people are actually going to the polls, And believe it or not, folks, this is the first primary in the nation because Iowa's a caucus.
Just what are you hearing issues-wise from the voters?
Are they talking border?
Are they talking fentanyl economy?
What's their sense?
You know, honestly, Jack, the first thing I hear is, you know, Eric, we're really sorry.
You know, sorry for what they've done to you, sorry for what they've done to your family.
We see the abuse you take, and you guys get absolutely nothing out of this, and, you know, you're just trying to do the right thing, and we're sorry, and we love you, and we're praying for you, and our community's praying for you.
So that's normally what I hear first.
And, you know, then, you know, pretty universally, people want their country back and go through the order of priority.
But they want free speech back.
All these people have been censored.
They've been deplatformed.
Their businesses have been gone after.
They've been targeted, right?
I mean, they want the First Amendment back.
They want freedom of religion back.
They want to be able to worship.
They want their nuclear family back.
They want upward mobility.
They want to be able to live the American dream.
They want to be able to go to Disney World with our kids.
But you can't because we have a bad economy and people are getting crammed down.
Again, as I said a second ago, inflation is greatly outpacing wage growth and so people are getting crammed down every single day.
Go out, look at the price of milk.
Go out and the eggs are up 70%.
A two-by-four cost nine bucks, you know, nine bucks when, you know, under my father was two.
You know, go down the list of just items.
I mean, people are getting crushed.
And then look at gas prices.
We should have the lowest gas prices in the world.
We've got the most fuel under our feet.
And, you know, we're energy independent under my father.
And, you know, they reversed that under Biden because he's incompetent.
Look at fuel oil, especially when you get to these colder states.
Right?
I mean, people use fuel oil to heat their homes.
And, you know, look how expensive it is versus a couple of years ago.
I mean, we're getting killed.
And then people are looking at our standing globally, and they're petrified.
Again, they're seeing wars breaking out.
They're seeing our military vessels getting rocket shot at them.
Trust me.
The one thing I can tell you, Jack, is they weren't shooting missiles at aircraft carriers and our ships in the Middle East under Donald Trump.
He would not have put up with that.
You know, Russia would have never happened under him.
The Israeli nonsense would have never happened under him.
It's so sad.
It is so sad to see what's happening in Israel.
It's so sad to see what's happening in Ukraine.
And certainly our warships should not be having missiles shot at them by a terrorist group, an unsophisticated terrorist group.
This would not have happened under Trump, that much I can tell you.
Well, certainly, and it's actually, as you say, it's directly connected because we lost our oil independence, our energy independence.
Now, the United States and Europe, predominantly, are dependent on the oil that's coming through the Red Sea, which is what the Houthis have been using.
We talk about this all the time on the show.
This is why the Houthis are doing that to the Red Sea.
I put on my naval officer hat there.
And talk about this, but they're shutting down the oil supply, and they're using very cheap missiles, very cheap drones to be able to do so.
It's actually a very good strategy from their perspective because they're able to do this very cheaply and totally bottleneck us because we don't have anyone who's put them in control.
But Jack, that's all over the world, too.
Yeah.
Let's not forget that's all over the world.
I mean, Russia would have never been able to afford the war that they're fighting right now if we had $30 oil or $40 oil in the U.S.
I mean, the fact that you have $100 plus oil is what affords Russia the ability to wage a massive war in Ukraine.
You know, look at Iran.
I mean, the same thing.
I mean, Iran was at its knees when we had $30, $40 oil.
They couldn't make any money, and my father had massive sanctions on them.
He went around the world saying, listen, anybody who buys oil from Iran, you know, you're going to lose the ability to do all business with the United States.
Guess what?
He had crippled, economically, he had crippled Iran.
I mean, all these people.
So not only do we pay more here at the pump, every single person, but then we have to send $200 billion over to Ukraine to fight a war.
That we effectively allowed to happen based on the fact that the first order Biden had when he got into the Oval Office was, let's cut off the Keystone XL pipeline.
Let's put a moratorium on drilling.
Let's wage war on oil and gas.
Let's stop exports.
So we pay $200 billion to have the privilege of paying more here at home in every aspect of our life, not to mention the ramp inflation.
I mean, what he did with energy is suicide for the United States of America.
It's absolutely suicide. - And then you add to that, Jack, if I can jump in on that too, it's what he's done effectively, Joe Biden has done, what the American people, and you asked the question what people want, their big concerns, it's the border, it's the economy, but really if you boil it down, and this goes back to Eric and to Don Jr. and to President Trump, from a business mindset, they want and this goes back to Eric and to Don Jr. and From a business mindset, they want certainty.
They want certainty in what's coming at them.
If they're a business owner, they want certainty in what the pricings are going to be.
If they're a mom or a dad, they want certainty in what's going to be taught to their kids at school.
if they're in government, if they're in the media.
People just want to live a life and have an idea of what's coming out.
Right now, we just have total chaos.
The only certainty we have is what we see around the world is that Joe Biden is going to be a weak, pathetic, non-leader.
And so we're basically giving the globe to him.
You look at what's happening on our southern border.
It is certainty of failure for this country.
It's national suicide.
And every single one of these issues goes back to that.
And that's why the voters stand with President Trump.
I asked him the question today, though, how do you the big concern that people have?
They keep coming up and saying, how do we prevent 2020 from happening again in 2024?
And that's the big concern, is making sure they don't steal it again in 2024.
Well, and let me ask this as well, though, because this has been one of the refrains that has been going on for a while.
And I've seen this on X and going viral and trending, etc.
Not that I would ever use Twitter myself.
I mean, I don't really go on there very much.
Do you actually think that that's what the agenda is here?
Is there a sense that if you were actually seeking, if you were actually seeking to dismantle the United States and to take us down as a country and reduce the power, reduce the tattoo in the United States, reduce the level of the standard of living of the American people, what would you do differently?
Do you actually think that that's what the agenda is here? - Nothing. - Well, I mean, either they're the world's dumbest people or they've got alternative motives, and I think it's probably the latter, and I hate to say that, right?
I mean, I truly, truly hate to say that, but as you said, they're dismantling society.
They're dismantling us economically.
I mean, we've got more natural gas and oil under our feet than any country in the world, but yet they're, you know, buying Lithium batteries from China?
I mean, help me explain that one, right?
You know, we're literally going, all transportation in this country is literally going to a source that America really has zero production in and giving it to, you know, the largest kind of threat that we have, existential threat to the United States.
I mean, how does that make any sense?
You know, so you have that.
You have the economic aspects, but then you have the home aspect, right?
And I think that's maybe bigger than ever.
You have literally a war on religion, a war on the flag.
You have, you know, groups that want to take, you know, One Nation under God out of the Pledge of Allegiance, In God We Trust off of our national currency.
You've got, you know, women Olympic soccer teams that are kneeling in front of the national flag, you know, before they play the national anthem.
You literally have half of a country that wanted the women's Olympic soccer team to lose because they'd rather have them lose than have the embarrassment of these guys, again, kneeling as they raise the flag if they got the gold.
Think about this.
It's not just economic.
It's cultural.
It's religious.
It's household.
It's a nuclear family.
It's fatherless crisis in this country.
It's discipline.
Look at TikTok over in China.
Every single TikTok reel will be a beautiful girl playing the piano at a very young age and showing some talent.
TikTok in America is literally a kid throwing an apple pie in their father's face.
They would never allow that overseas, and they want the demise of our society in every single way because it benefits them.
Last but not least, look at Fentanyl.
Fentanyl was being sent into this country by China with one intent, and that was to maim Our youth may be the most important aspect of society.
You know, the aspect that's supposed to be productive.
And we don't do a damn thing about that, Jack.
We don't do anything about it.
And it's killing hundreds of thousands of kids every single year.
And aside from the hundreds of thousands of deaths, it's destroying families.
I mean, and that's not just the father, it's the mother, it's the brother, it's the sister, it's the teacher, it's the caregiver, it's the aunt, the uncle, the grandma, the grandfather.
It's destroying families, it's destroying communities, and we don't do a damn thing about it.
Yes, I mean, either it's gross negligence and incompetence or worse, but it's truly, truly tragic on every front.
Well, Eric and Ben, I understand that you guys have to run.
You guys have a ton of stuff to get to today, a lot of work.
Eric Trump, we are going to be watching.
We'll be checking in later with Rav and the rest of the team as the results roll in later tonight.
Human Events Daily continues after this.
You know they talk about influences.
These are influences and they're friends of mine.
Jack, so like where's Jack?
He's done a great job.
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All right, folks, so we just had Eric Trump there, New Hampshire.
Look, we understand that the polls are over.
This isn't a caucus, by the way, like Iowa.
I know we've been talking about Iowa and all of this right now.
But, you know, where it's a caucus, and it starts later, and then people move from one caucus to another.
No.
The New Hampshire primary, this is a regular election.
It's a regular primary.
This is a situation where polls open in the morning, close in the evening.
The election comes in, there'll be some exit polls that come out.
Of course, we'll see if those are close.
We do know that the Suffolk University poll Came out just a little while ago.
I'm going to pull it up here this morning so people can see Suffolk University.
This is one and Richard Barris was here yesterday telling us how important this was.
He said this is the poll that you really want to look at.
It'll come out on the eve of the primary itself.
Well.
It came out last night.
In that poll, Trump leads, and this is from ThePostMillennial.com, Trump leads Haley by 22 points in the final Suffolk poll ahead of the New Hampshire primary.
Trump at 60%, Haley at 38%.
So that said, basically that Trump gained three points since the poll was released on Monday.
That means That it looks like a lot of that support that would have potentially gone to Governor DeSantis, that was happening from Sunday, then of course he dropped out on Sunday so the Monday poll didn't completely reflect it, caught a lot of it.
Now the poll that came out last night is getting the full brunt of it.
I'm told now, by the way, that we do have Senator Johnson coming to us live.
Senator Johnson, do we have a connection with you?
Well, Jack, how you doing?
Welcome to the show, Senator.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me on.
Very excited.
Now, we understand that the Democrats are very upset with you because you want to do something that, you know, sometimes people don't like to do anymore in the Senate, and that's called negotiate.
It's very interesting.
I can't understand why people seem to have forgotten this lost art.
Well, they're willing to negotiate, but it has to be behind closed doors and in secret.
And what I'm suggesting, you know, particularly on an issue where the vast majority of Americans agree with us that they want a secure border, a sovereign U.S., why aren't we debating this thing in the open?
The reason is neither side, you know, the leadership of neither side trusts the public.
They want to do some unholy deal, something that provides Democrats political cover.
You know, my concern is it'll be something that actually won't secure the border because Our leadership basically didn't even try to negotiate any kind of enforcement mechanism.
Like we were suggesting in conference repeatedly, why don't we tie Ukraine funding, make it contingent on them actually securing the border.
You know, set metrics, make them meet thresholds.
This is very simple in business.
We have performance measurements all the time.
You know, targets you have to meet to get certain bonuses.
We have to do the same thing with Ukraine.
Could have been very reasonable.
I have something proposed.
But that wasn't even allowed to be discussed, is what we were told.
Let's walk through.
What was your proposal?
What was it that you wanted out?
Because we understand, and I had thrown this out earlier, and then the Pentagon's out, Lloyd Austin saying that all Ukraine funding will be ended by March 8th.
That's, of course, the current date on the current resolution.
And so they're really trying to drive this home.
Zelensky, of course, was at the World Economic Forum talking about it as well.
Walk through your proposal for the audience.
Well, first of all, my assumption was there would probably be enough support, particularly with any kind of even minimal border security, for $60 billion in Ukraine funding.
OK, I kind of accept that reality.
I think most Americans are sympathetic with the brave and courageous people of Ukraine.
They think Vladimir Putin's evil, and they'd like to see him certainly not win.
So again, I realize there's some support.
Other places, there's great opposition.
So it's a controversial issue.
But if it was going to pass, my suggestion was make a contingent on actually securing the border.
They wanted $60 billion.
Trump took his top level number of migrants crossing per day and reduced that down to pretty much secure border over the course of 12 months.
He went from peak to trough in 12 months.
So I divvy up $60 billion divided by 12, $5 billion a month.
Maybe give $5, $10, $15 billion up front, wait three months, but then have rigorous targets that would force the Biden administration to actually secure the border over that 12-month time period.
I think the open border push by Biden and the Democrats is a clear and present danger to America.
It should be our top priority.
Whether you agree or disagree with funding for Ukraine, if you can use that as leverage to secure the border, That would have been a deal I could have supported, but I'm not seeing a negotiated deal right now that gives me confidence we would actually secure the border.
I think it would give Democrats cover, but I'm not so sure it's going to actually secure the border.
And so that's basically, you're drawing a line in the sand specifically on securing the border and getting those metrics in, in terms of this.
When it comes to the Democrats, have you heard, and we just got a couple of minutes until the break, but are you hearing anything, any traction?
Are you getting any reciprocal calls from people saying that they're willing to work on this issue?
No, it was taken off the table.
You know, sounds like Langford never even asked for it because he was told not to ask for it.
Again, this is good information I have on it, but again, it had a great deal of support inside the Republican conference, and it just made all the sense in the world.
You want Ukraine funding?
Fine.
We want a secure border.
You say you want one.
I don't believe you.
I mean, let's face it, that's a big problem for James Langford, who, by the way, very knowledgeable, probably the right guy to negotiate this.
He gets along well with Democrats.
Our problem is Mitch McConnell is the puppet master here pulling the strings.
And he's the one that's saying, well, we don't want to tie Ukraine.
I have a lot to ask, Senator.
We're coming to a quick break.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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I don't want to waste any time, folks.
We promised you more with Senator Johnson, who's giving us these exclusive details on the negotiations.
Senator Johnson, when you left us, you said that Lankford, who's taken the position of really kind of being the point man on these negotiations, you said that he didn't even put this border deal on the table, and your assessment was that's because he was on orders from Mitch McConnell?
That's basically understanding of it, that we never even asked for making Ukraine funding contingent on actually meeting border security.
Now, they're talking about other types of metrics, other kind of forcing mechanisms.
But again, none of us have seen a word of text.
What I have seen, I can poke holes in from a standpoint, well, this is a way the Democrats will Weasel out of this agreement.
This is the the Mack truck bill drive through this hole.
So again, I'm asking legitimate questions.
How do you actually close the border, you know, before you hit the close the border stage?
How do you process?
Four or 5,000 people a day.
Right now they're saying they can process 500.
So what happens to the rest of them?
How's that different from current catch and release?
Why wouldn't that continue the flow?
And oh, by the way, the border is 100% secure on the Mexican side of the border.
The cartels have more than, you know, more than capable of metering the flow to stay under whatever threshold might trigger more onerous border security measures.
Again, you have to understand and recognize the reality of the situation, and with this administration, a lawless administration, a president that ignores Supreme Court rules, that is not faithfully executing the law, you need some kind of forcing mechanism to actually get him to abide by whatever agreement you cut with him.
You know, that's interesting, by the way.
You just mentioned the Supreme Court decision.
Obviously, we were talking about that earlier in the show as well, completely against it.
Do you think, by the way, though, and this is something that could be brought up as well in these negotiations, obviously, isn't that also something that could be used in these negotiations?
I would think so.
Again, there's the irony.
I was talking about the eviction moratorium and student loans.
You just ignored both of those.
Yes, that's right.
You've got the Biden administration supposedly doing a deal because they want to secure the border.
And they're fighting Governor Abbott down in Texas tooth and nail.
And they're bringing things before the court to make sure that CBP can dismantle what fencing that Texas installed to try and protect its citizens.
So again, this is beyond absurd.
Again, I think James is doing as good a job as James can do.
Having to listen to Mitch McConnell is basically telling him what he can and can't ask for.
But the fact of the matter is, His biggest problem is he's dealing with people who want an open border that caused the problem.
They really don't want to secure the border.
Their base wants a borderless society.
They want political cover.
So again, I don't see how you negotiate a good deal with people that are acting in such bad faith.
Well, this idea, again, that they want the borderless society, that they want us to be completely exposed to whatever is coming across, not to mention just the sheer numbers that you've spoken about just here.
Under President Trump in his previous administration, we actually experienced a net decrease in the overall foreign-born population, I think for the first time since 1965, since LBJ's bill was passed.
This is something where, and, of course, COVID played a role in that as well, but it was already trending down.
But if you look at that same graph, ever since Biden comes in, it explodes.
The numbers just completely explode across our border.
And I'm sorry, but, Senator, for the life of me, I can't understand how, and I agree with you, that I can't understand how this could possibly be happening if it wasn't by design.
It is by design.
They want this.
Again, Trump went from peak to trough in 12 months.
He pretty well hit low point in April of 2020.
And that was only one month.
With the Title 42.
So he pretty well secured the border.
Now he took it from about 1,200 day down to 570 day with Title 42.
But then Democrat presidential candidates were talking about how they were going to end deportation, offer free health care.
And so then you see the number of single adults start rising until Biden was inaugurated.
And then the border exploded because Biden dismantled all the successful programs that worked under Trump.
You know, we'd pretty well stopped the flow of unaccompanied children.
Family units, which means we stop the flow of the sex trafficking.
There are a lot of good things about what President Trump did, but President Biden thought that was so humane.
So now his open border policy is facilitating the multi-billion dollar business model.
Some of the most evil people on the planet, human, sex, drug traffickers, look at all the overdoses.
There's nothing humane about the Democrat and President Biden's open border policy.
In fact, Senator, I actually saw a stat just last night.
I haven't even posted this on X, but you know, I'll mention it here that I've now seen that overdose deaths in America, just in terms of population, have now overtaken The place where Russia was after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Everybody knows that deaths related to vodka and alcoholism just absolutely skyrocketed in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union.
We're talking the 1990s time frame.
So during the Yeltsin years, those alcohol-related deaths, we've now overtaken them.
We've now overtaken, they were about like 29, 29.5, we're now in the 30s in terms of that, in terms of population, in terms of our rate because of overdoses and for some reason this administration just isn't even interested in actually talking about it as a policy.
The media treats it as if it's some kind of almost like a natural disaster that's just sort of happening and it's tragic but there's nothing we can do about it.
I disagree with that fundamentally.
It's an agenda and these are obviously policy decisions that could be changed with the stroke of a pen.
Well, it's a strategy by China.
They're the ones that provide the precursor chemicals.
They used to ship them directly in the U.S.
We actually frustrated those efforts with a couple of pieces of legislation.
They just changed it, you know, sending the ship, the precursor chemicals down to Mexico and using our porous, our wide open border.
To funnel them into the U.S.
and poison American cities.
So this is a Chinese strategy.
And again, we're facilitating that.
Probably one of the reasons the Biden administration doesn't want to talk about it, because President Biden is so horribly compromised because of hunters and Biden Inc.' 's connections to Communist Party of China.
Well, then of course we had, we had, uh, but, but, but Senator, hold on now.
We had 51 Intel agents come out and tell us that that was all Russian disinformation.
So, I mean, all the hallmarks of that, isn't it?
We should trust those same Intel agencies, shouldn't we?
Well, that's another part of the scandal.
So, as scandalous and as concerning as the, you know, Biden-ing corruption is, the fact that we have corruption within federal law enforcement, our intelligence services, and then of course the corruption of the mainstream media that has bought all this stuff Hook, line, and sinker, or knowingly pushed false narratives like the Trump-Russian collusion false narrative and put America through political turmoil that hasn't ended to this day.
I mean, this is still the same actors, partisan actors in federal agencies, now way overcharging Trump, these political prosecutions, and the mainstream media cheerleading that kind of abuse to our democracy.
Oh, that's precisely right.
And so when I look at these situations, and by the way, I say this as a former, you know, Navy intelligence officer myself, you know, I remember going in there and saying, hey, aren't we going to do something about the Chinese Communist Party?
Aren't we going to do something about the penetration of our national security, the defense of Taiwan, these various things?
Are we going to do something about defending our nation?
And you find that the actors in there are much more interested in political positions and parroting, whatever the talking points that come out of Washington, D.C.
are, and that even when we would have intelligence that came out of the field, the closer it got to D.C., it just seemed like the more politicized and stovepipe that it got.
Yeah, I mean, the root cause of all this problem, of all these problems, is we have a massive federal government that's completely out of control.
Eisenhower, if you haven't watched his farewell address, he not only warned us about the military-industrial complex, but he warned us about a scientific and technological elite being driven by public funding of science and research.
So it has corrupted that.
We saw that big time during COVID, how we've corrupted our federal health agencies.
He warned us about plundering and mortgaging our kids' future.
And then he also warned, his fourth warning was about not letting global society fall into a profound state of Dreadful fear and hate.
And that's, of course, what the left is pushing.
They push fear of climate change.
They push fear of pandemics.
They seek to divide us, to push hate.
That's how they gain control.
Precisely, Senator, because they get us to hate each other, and more importantly, they get us to question one another and question our motives and suspect one another rather than actually working against these actors.
We've got another block with you.
Quick break here.
Senator Johnson, definitely one of the fieriest and truth-filled interviews that we've had here on the program in a long time.
Stay tuned.
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Fiery interview with Senator Ron Johnson.
Full of truth, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaking of an area where it's very hard for the United States citizenry, at least, to get much truth, and that's the situation in Ukraine.
Of course, media has been denied a lot of access to this.
The United States government has not been very forthwith about where all that money exactly is going.
And yet we're told now, the AP has got this huge article up that Lloyd Austin is in his home bedroom on this, I guess, I would hope certainly, a secured VTC conference call with the Coalition of the Willing saying, we don't have any money to support you past March 8th.
So you're going to have to pull together because the United States Congress has not signed a deal with us.
Senator Johnson, walk us through this, what you've called for in terms of a special conference on Ukraine and tell us what information have you received as a senator who's being asked to obviously vote on all of these aid packages as to where exactly this money is going.
So first of all, let's say the Biden administration, you can't trust a word they say.
They've done nothing to, you know, earn the trust of the American public.
You know, the president lies repeatedly.
Look at what Defense Secretary Austin did from his recent hospitalization.
So you just can't trust these people.
But that being said, one of the reasons I called this conference meeting for tomorrow is in the Republican conference in the Senate, we've talked about Ukraine one time.
It was 45 minutes.
We had one senator stand up in support.
One senator stood up in opposition.
The rest of us were Told to keep our comments to 60 seconds.
This isn't the greatest delivered body on earth, right?
An important and complex issue, and we gave it short shrift.
So I thought if we're going to be voting on a supplemental, we ought to talk about this.
I bring a slightly different perspective.
I was the only member of Congress that attended Zelensky's inauguration.
Met with him then.
Went back two or three months later.
I was chairman of the European Subcommittee at that point in time.
Went back with Chris Murphy.
And we met again with him among many issues.
I think he was dead serious about trying to defeat corruption.
But he was a political neophyte.
The long knives were out.
But one point he made to me, to us, was that he wanted to do a peace deal with Putin.
Now, this is when Russia had already completely annexed Crimea.
They were in total control of eastern Ukraine.
Zelensky knew it wouldn't be politically popular, but he also knew he couldn't displace Russia, a superpower with nuclear weapons, so he wanted to do a peace agreement with them.
Fast forward, now we're in this bloody stalemate.
The reality is Putin will not lose this war.
Losing is existential to Putin.
Putin has nuclear weapons.
If he doesn't use them, he will certainly threaten to use them.
Ukraine can't do the things like lob missiles into Moscow to turn the hearts and minds of Russians against the war.
You have to recognize the only way the bloodshed ends is in a negotiated settlement.
Now, I'm not going to like it.
Americans aren't going to like the kind of settlement you have to do with the evil war criminal Putin.
But that's the fact of the matter.
And every day that this war goes on, more Ukrainians die, more Russian conscripts die.
I take no joy in that.
These people are pulled out of their villages and sent to the front lines as cannon fodder.
And more of Ukraine gets destroyed.
So anything the U.S.
ought to do, or everything we do, ought to be focused around how do you convince Vladimir Putin, sit down, sit down with Zelensky, end this bloody stalemate, do it sooner rather than later.
And I think that's certainly part of the discussion.
If the administration is asking for another $60 billion, not having accounted for this first $100 billion, when you've got Zelensky aides telling reporters, turn off your recorder, and then they say privately, They're stealing it like there's no tomorrow.
There are a lot of questions that ought to be asked.
Nobody's answering questions, and we don't even have much of an opportunity to ask them.
You mentioned having those communications with Zelensky at the time and his administration.
When you mentioned about him wanting a peace deal with Russia, was that before the war started or even after?
Because I know we've received reports of that, you know, in like May of 2022 or March of 2022.
No, this was shortly after he was inaugurated.
It might have been the day of his inauguration or when I went back to with Chris Murphy, he might have mentioned both times.
But again, I was thoroughly convinced he wanted to do, he was rational enough to realize he's not going to displace Russia, better do a peace deal with Russia and get it over with so he could try and spend his effort to defeat corruption in Ukraine and build a more prosperous nation for his people.
That's what his focus was, certainly when I met him after he just got elected.
Well, that's right, and actually, I remember covering the fact that he campaigned on that very same promise.
This was one of the reasons that he won something like 70% of the vote back in 2019 when he was elected, because at the time, and this was, it was those three provinces and including Crimea, At the time that he wanted the piece in, and, you know, simply, obviously, history took a slightly different route.
Of course, he was tied into the first impeachment of Trump over the phone call, and it all comes down to this question, again, of the aid and where the aid is going.
And this is something, even when I visited myself in the summer of 2022, we weren't in Lviv or Lviv, however, you know, depending on which politically correct side you want to take on that pronunciation, that we were started, I had a guy within a couple hours to start to tell I had a guy within a couple hours to start to tell me how I could buy AR-15s because the AR-15s were coming in and he had done a deal, had gone wrong, but he needed So he's asking me if I wanted to buy the AR-15s, I'm like, I don't think a U.S.
citizen should be coming to a war zone to buy AR-15s.
But if I can do it that quickly, imagine what the people on the ground who might be bad actors or criminal organizations otherwise are doing.
Senator, we've got about a minute and a half left.
Where can people go for more information to follow you?
And what should people be thinking about as we go forward with this budget negotiation?
Well, let me just go to our Senate website.
You can find that on the Internet.
I don't have it memorized in my head.
But listen, we need to focus on the big things.
Understanding that probably the greatest threat to our nation right now is the division that is being pushed by the Democrats, by the left.
Identity politics, critical race theory, you know, the whole transgender issue that just sprang out of nowhere.
Again, this is all meant to divide us and weaken America.
If you were asked to develop a strategy to destroy this country, you couldn't come up with a better game plan than what has been initiated by Biden and the radical leftist in his administration.
The open borders, the 40-year high inflation, war on fossil fuels, the weakness internationally that's set the world in flames.
So focus on the big issues and then understand that we are plundering and mortgaging our children's future and support those elected officials who are willing to say, no, we can't do this anymore.
All right, Senator Ron Johnson from the great state of Wisconsin.
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I can't wait for the convention later this summer.
I am going to be engorging myself.
Senator, God bless.
You gotta get them fresh before they're refrigerated, but you're right.
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