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EPISODE 644: BIDEN JUDGE POISED TO STRIP TRUMP OF PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, RAY EPPS SWEETHEART DEAL

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Today is January 9th, 2024.
I know, Domini folks, I watched that entire hearing this morning.
Donald Trump in the courtroom with these diversity hire judges and I'm pretty sure that I'd lost my actual brain cells.
It was like going into my brain with a hot poker and just jabbing my brain cells directly one after another all through the entire hour.
And I went back and listened to it at 2x.
Thank God.
I think we have a clip.
Do we have that clip about the SEAL teams?
Do we have the SEAL team clip, guys?
Let's play the SEAL Team clip.
President ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival?
That's an official act in order to SEAL Team 6?
He would have to be and would speedily be, you know, impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution.
What if he weren't?
There would be no criminal prosecution, no criminal liability for that?
Chief Justice of the United States.
Could a president who ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution?
If he were impeached and convicted first.
of the impeachment judgment clause all clearly presuppose that what the founders were concerned about was not-- - I asked you a yes or no question.
Could a president who ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution?
- If he were impeached and convicted first. - So your answer is no.
Yes, there is a political process that have to occur under our structure, our constitution, which require impeachment and conviction by the Senate.
In these exceptional cases, as the OLC memo itself points out from the Department of Justice, you'd expect a speedy impeachment and conviction.
So this is a show trial.
I hope everyone understands what that is.
And I'm so glad, by the way, that we have this audio, that we actually have a recording of it, so everyone can hear how utterly ridiculous and uninterested in the truth of how our system operates these people are.
These are your judges, folks.
These are the people that decide whether or not you go to prison.
These are the judges that have been locking up Gen 6 defendants.
I understand this is the appellate level, but when they appeal, this is where it goes to.
Most of them come from the D.C.
Circuit to begin with.
This is how they think.
This is how they operate.
Although, perhaps I'm saying think, and I'm going a bit far when I say that, because I don't think there's a lot of thinking going on between the earlobes right there.
No, instead, what you're getting is this gotcha contest of, what if he ordered Seal Team Six to assassinate a political opponent?
Well, he didn't do that.
Barack Obama, by the way, actually did assassinate a US citizen, but you're not going to talk about that because nobody's ever going to bring him up on charges for something like that.
Republicans certainly aren't even going to impeach him.
No.
We have a situation where you have full-throated race communists Up on the bench in Washington, D.C., and anyone who tries to get a fair trial up there, guess what?
You'd have a better luck getting a fair trial in Siberia.
Darren Beatty's coming up next.
Ray Epps, of course, let off with a slap on the wrist.
Guess what, folks?
You live in the gay Soviet Union.
I told you.
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Look, folks, I said it yesterday.
And we have an update today.
I have a breaking update for you.
So yesterday, I told you, we live in the gay Soviet Union.
And it's getting gayer, folks!
It's getting gayer by the minute.
Darren Beattie joins us now.
Darren, if you could diagnose it for us, just how gay is our gay Soviet Union at the current moment?
Well, it is incredibly gay.
I feel like we're doing the South Park, the big gay alley.
It's the only way to get through 2024, man.
Indeed, this is of course the G.A.E., the acronym of Globalist American Empire.
Yeah, I'm at G.A.E.
I don't know what anyone else was thinking.
Yes, absolutely, and I've described our present dystopia as a kind of Worst case combination, all the worst aspects of East Germany, South Africa and Brazil.
I think that descriptively is closest to, you know, the most accurate description you can come up with.
And, you know, sometimes we'll see East German elements with the surveillance state with, I would say, the selective prosecutions and And these sorts of things.
But then you also see elements of Brazil with the third world hordes pouring in on the border, effectively open borders country, which is ridiculous.
And then you see elements of South Africa with the skyrocketing crime and criminality that's infested our cities and inner cities to the point where you have entire cities, which used to be The pride and joy, rightfully so, of the United States.
Cities like San Francisco.
You know, I recently saw a nice movie.
It's called The Game with Michael Douglas.
And what struck me in my latest viewing was just how nice and posh San Francisco looked as early as the 90s.
And now San Francisco is basically an open-air skid row.
It's happened that fast and, you know, it's not unique to San Francisco.
It's funny you mention that.
Just because when I watched the old Hitchcock movie Vertigo and I had the exact same thought watching Jimmy Stewart and he's, you know, chasing after the criminal trying to figure out what happened.
And you look at San Francisco, the city looks glorious.
It's an actual shining city on a hill.
We had something like that at one point and we threw it all away.
And now, the other day I was showing my son the terrible maps account on Twitter and he said, Daddy, what's that brown map?
And I said, well, son, that's the map of all the poop in San Francisco.
And he had a good laugh.
Right.
No, it's really frustrating because we have all of these curtailments to freedom and we get none of the benefits.
There's no grand objective.
That we're making these sacrifices for.
We're simply giving up all of our freedom so we don't go after criminals who have nothing to contribute to society.
This kind of DEI regime, at least in a place like China, they can justify this dystopia to their citizens by saying, we will restrict your freedoms, but we have a purpose.
We're trying to better our country.
We're trying to accelerate our with a military prowess and so forth.
And we're at the very least not going to imbue our nation's education system with an ideology that teaches Chinese to hate themselves or engage in an immigration policy that amounts to a deliberate replacement of their own people.
These are circumstances that are unique to the West and unique to the poor style of leadership, really criminal and treasonous leadership that's governed the West for over a half century now.
So it's just very depressing to see that you think if you're going to give up all these freedoms, at least you should get something in exchange.
But we don't even have clean streets to show for the fact that we have no freedoms.
At least Pyongyang has the clean streets.
At least Pyongyang has the clean streets.
It's exactly right.
You know, I can remember, and I've talked about here many times, living in Shanghai and being able to walk down a street from corner to corner, from one end of the city to another, three in the morning, and having no issue with this.
But Darren, I want to bring it back to this clip we played earlier, and we don't have a lot of time left in this segment, so I'm not going to play it again right now, but She's asking this question about, well, what if the president, it's total hypothetical, has nothing to do with anything that's brought up in the case, and it's hypothetical, what if the president orders his Zeal Team Six to assassinate one of his opponents?
And Trump's lawyer, John Sauer, starts, he refers back to the Federalist Papers, and he's talking about the separation of powers, and he's talking about the rich body of jurisprudence that we've had in this country, going back to the framers' intent.
And she cuts him off and says, oh, so you won't answer my question.
She can't even engage with the things that he's bringing up or conceptualize it.
How can we get someone like that on a place like this, the D.C.
Appellate Court, which, by the way, is known for being a place where presidents choose Supreme Court justices?
Yeah, well, I mean, the whole judiciary has become a scam and a crapshoot.
We see very seldom do we see anything resembling legal reasoning coming out of our court systems.
And of course, we've seen on numerous occasions in numerous instances, the degradation and utter political weaponization of the court system that's come in tandem with the political weaponization of the other national security bureaucracies.
And, you know, these are populated by Apparatchiks, loyal servants of the regime, and in many cases, just, you know, low IQ idiots.
That's quite common as well.
And so the end result is what you see here with this kind of sham procedure to beleaguer Trump, who is the front runner in the 2024 elections, beleaguer him legally and in every other way to the extent that he's not able to participate
In the democratic process, and by extension, the half of the country, if not more, that wants him to be president cannot participate in the democratic process that way, because he's removed from the ballot either by them throwing him in prison, indicting him, or taking him off the ballot through some completely ridiculous sham legal innovation.
They're throwing everything at him, because they have no choice, really.
Well, that's exactly right.
And so, and of course, you know, I think it goes without saying that, I'll ask you this, you know, so you more than anyone are responsible for bringing Ray Epps to the fore.
Today, he's received his sentence.
Boy, just, they really threw the book at him, huh?
I mean, it's really funny.
It was such a low effort thing because, look, this is they've waited over almost three years to do anything with the guy, which is amazing because his behavior was considered so egregious.
He was one of the first 20 people added to the FBI's most wanted list on it.
And early on, as I keep mentioning, The New York Times featured him prominently in their ominously titled Day of Rage documentary feature.
For January 6th.
And so the FBI, the New York Times, all of these regime outlets rightly identified EPSA's central casting for the false story of the insurrection that they tried to blow up in people's imaginations.
Here's the guy in former Marine, 6'3", in camo gear, a Trump hat, the only guy caught on camera urging people to go into the Capitol a day in advance.
He's there everywhere on the 6th directing people to the Capitol before Trump even started with his speech.
He's pre-positioned at the exact decisive breach point on the west side of the Capitol before Trump's speech is even over, and so on and so forth.
And somehow, oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, he was the former head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers, the most demonized and heavily prosecuted militia group associated with January 6th.
So on paper, he would be the perfect face of this false insurrection that the regime has been trying to blow up in our minds.
And initially, it looked like it might develop into that.
But very quickly, and curiously, right when Revolver News introduced the idea of federal involvement in January 6, the next day, the FBI quietly removes him from that list.
And then all of a sudden, the New York Times does a fully dedicated puff piece on him.
All of a sudden, 60 Minutes does a sympathy segment on him.
A man who's never met a Trump supporter he didn't want to see rotting away in prison for less than 50 years defends Epps more aggressively than Epps' own lawyer.
All of a sudden, David Brock's people are representing Ray Epps, this so, you know, would-be insurrectionist.
And then The cherry on top, the regime says, uh-oh, the people, we've lost the plot.
This January 6th insurrection narrative that we've spent countless weeks on.
Coming up on a quick break.
Hold that thought, Darren.
We've got a quick break.
Ray Epps comes up.
I'm getting riled up there.
Ray Epps comes up.
No, I know, I know.
I mentioned Voldemort.
Ray Epps gets a slap on the wrist.
Darren Beattie's reaction when we come back here at Human Events Daily.
All right, Jack Posobiec back live.
I promised you that I'd get to the end of Darren Beatty's comment there on Ray Epps who got off with this a sweetheart deal.
I'm just gonna say it sounds to me like all the hallmarks of a sweetheart deal.
Darren, continue.
Indeed.
So I was just pointing out how interesting it is that the guy whose behavior was egregious enough to be first 20 on the FBI's Most Wanted list, featured prominently in New York Times documentary.
Then Revolver News starts reporting on federal involvement.
And literally the next day, Epps is taken off the FBI's Most Wanted list.
And then shortly thereafter, the New York Times does a fully dedicated puff piece on him.
60 Minutes does a sympathy segment on him.
Adam Kinzinger starts defending him more aggressively than his own lawyers, and now to put the toothpaste back in the tube to wrap up the loose ends three years after, the regime in this lazy ploy to convince low-information people that there's nothing to see here with Epps gives him a wrist-slap misdemeanor charge
And they don't even commit to the bit there because the government recommended the six months maximum within the misdemeanor, and he ends up just getting probation.
So they don't even commit to this ridiculous bit three years after to give a misdemeanor charge.
You know, everyone else, they get the obstruction of an official proceeding, which is currently under review by the Supreme Court and so forth, nothing.
They in fact admit in the charging documents that he engaged in felonious conduct, but there were "mitigating factors," including the fact, in their view, that he was subject to conspiracy.
It's really amazing, and I think it's clear what's going on here.
And I should point out, though, that the fact that he's getting this lenient treatment, to say the least, isn't just, oh, you know, he's an asset, or they like him, he's cooperated, therefore he gets lenient treatment.
Because, as I pointed out in other contexts, the Feds are more than willing to seriously burn their assets once they come liabilities.
The fact that they haven't burned EPS in this fashion suggests to me that EPS has A lot more leverage on them than just January 6th.
That's of course speculation, but that I think is the most reasonable reading in my view that he's, you know, this is not his first rodeo and I guess I'll leave it at that.
Well, I'm just gonna say, it seems to me that this deal has all the hallmarks of what you would give someone who was a cooperating asset, someone who had been cooperating with you possibly for longer than just the January 6th event, which I think is what you're getting at here.
And this idea, it's no jail, it's a $500 fine, and community service!
Community service!
For, as opposed to, which, which by the way, and I'm going to be clear about this, this is the type of sentence that all the Jan Sixers should have received.
This is what, right, so we know what the benchmark is, and that's why we're incredulous here, because we know that for every Democrat who does something like this, this is what they would have got.
I want to clarify, it's, I'm not particularly scandalized by his behavior per se, although it's far more egregious than most everyone else.
The thing that's the scandal here is this selective prosecution and the idea that the Department of Justice took a posture of quote-unquote shock and awe to throw the kitchen Think at relatively trivial actors, even the SWAT treatment two or three weeks after January 6.
And yet with Ray Epps, who, by all accounts, relatively speaking, seems to be the most egregious participant.
And the FBI agreed.
And so did The New York Times before we started reporting on the Fed's direction.
So the fact that unlike others who had the SWAT treatment, they have the red dots, you know, on their chests and on their wives and families at three in the morning, many such cases, so to speak.
With Ray Epps, there's no such thing.
They wait almost three years.
They warn him in advance that there's a misdemeanor and they not only don't give him the recommended sentencing, they give him zero jail time and probation three years after.
It's simply it doesn't, it doesn't add up at all.
And it's, yeah, it's it's so clumsy.
It's such a clumsy cover up.
But I guess the regime doesn't think they need to do any better than that.
Because what are the plebs going to do?
What are the peasants going to do?
They don't even need to sort of honor us with a more sophisticated cover story.
And so here's something that is interesting to me, that Mitt Romney was giving an interview with the New York Times and said, and it's very strange to me that he actually said this three days after the anniversary of January 6th, where he said, they went to him, they said, oh, here we are, it's the three year anniversary.
We're just a couple days later.
What are your thoughts on it?
And Senator Romney, I saw this reported in the national polls, said, I think January 6 is a dead horse politically.
He said, I think Biden needs new material, and I think people have processed it one way or the other.
They're not, you're not going to change anyone's opinion on that.
Could this potentially be a turning of the page, in a sense, from at least some elements of the regime from January 6th?
And perhaps this Ray Epps, this Ray Epps deal represents the closing, you know, the closing the loop, right?
They're trying to close the Ray Epps loop.
They don't want Darren Beatty talking about him anymore.
No more revolver exposés.
Just make it go away.
He'll be off picking trash and that'll be the end of it.
Yes and no.
Narratively speaking, that's absolutely the case because they think people are so unsophisticated.
They think the argument is Epps didn't get indicted.
Therefore, he was a fed.
Therefore, no matter when they charge him with anything or no matter what circumstances, no matter how late, simply charging him with anything constitutes a refutation of the mountains of evidence that we've presented over the course of the past three years.
That's their thinking.
So in that sense, yes, they want to close the narrative loop.
But in another sense, they can't quit January 6.
I don't think the American population is especially interested in it.
But on the one hand, you know, conservatives, patriots should be interested in it because it's used as a pretext to further the weaponization of the national security state against us.
And the Democrats are interested in it because it's basically The lynchpin off of which they've based all of their phony legal theories in order to stop Trump from running according to the normal Democrat process.
It's the basis of one of the sham criminal indictments, and it's also the basis of the legal theory according to which they're trying to remove him from ballots.
So in that sense, When you when you see Biden talking about January 6, he's not necessarily speaking to voters that I don't think really care about it.
What he's doing is he's reinforcing the narrative that the Democrats need to defeat Trump through sort of extracurricular means, through through extra democratic means, through lawfare and other mechanisms that we've seen and that I expect to intensify.
I think that's right.
I think it's going to get worse.
Darren, as we're going through 2024, so we have this sort of two-track situation.
I know I have you for just a couple more minutes.
We've got the presidential election, of course, Iowa takes place in just a couple of days time here, four days, four or five days away from Iowa.
And yet there's also this legal media track that also the regime, this gauntlet they're throwing on Donald Trump.
What do you think comes next?
Well, anything can come next.
And I just had a A very interesting conversation with Vivek that's up on revolver.news now that's disturbing even for me.
I thought, you know, I could stomach disturbing things, but, you know, there's always been this conundrum.
What are the Democrats going to do?
They're kind of stuck with Joe Biden.
They can't get rid of him and have Kamala.
And I think it's worth observing and understanding that from Jim's perspective, Nikki Haley would not And in fact, many ways she would be better for them than Joe Biden, because if they can install Nikki Haley as president, they can suggest that, oh, you know, you guys thought your election was stolen.
This time a Republican won.
So the system is actually legitimate because a Republican won, when in practice, it's a Republican that's a more dedicated and loyal servant to the regime than even Joe Biden, Biden, who at least his senility is a wildcard factor, that he might just have a brain collapse and end up doing something that isn't detrimental to the American public.
Unfortunately, Nikki Haley's brain is still functioning to the extent that she can't Continuously and consistently and probably somewhat effectively implement the regime's design against the American people.
So I think the notion of Nikki Haley as this dark horse figure and the solution to the regime's problem with Biden is something that we should take increasingly seriously.
And you know what that means with Trump?
Well, you know, there are some dark possibilities there.
I think it suffices to say that the regime will do everything in its power to prevent the American people from being able to actually vote for Trump in the election.
The voter fraud here is going to take place before the election.
The steal is going to take place.
The steal is not in the counting of ballots.
It's in simply not having him on the ballot.
It's very clear that that's what their aim is.
From day one, I've said this many times, the regime is doing everything in its power to ensure that the American people are never able to meddle in their own elections again.
And we're going to see, if you thought 2023 was wild in terms of the indictments, the civil suits, the legal theories, 2024 is going to be that on steroids with orders of magnitude more intense, more crazy, and more dark.
Well, I couldn't agree with you more, and I hate to say it, but I couldn't because they have said, and we remember, I always go back to that piece that Alan Bakari found, that internal Google meeting about one week or so after the election, and He was leaked to him by a whistleblower and this is the Sundar Pinchai, head of Google, and they're up there.
Everyone's in tears.
They're crying.
It's almost like a, it's, you know, I'd say it's a struggle session.
It's more like a pity party.
And, and he says to them, we will make sure this never happens again.
That's eight years ago.
We will make sure this never happens again.
Darren Beattie, where can people go to follow you get the latest from Revolver News?
Go to Revolver.
We must annex Antarctica in any basis that may or may not be there.
Where's Jack?
needs to annex Antarctica.
It's not as crazy as it sounds, so go there for some amusement and edification.
Go there to see the Ray Epps rare footage in the Vivek interview, revolver.news.
We must annex Antarctica in any basis that may or may not be there.
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Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
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We have the great Julie Kelly joining us in just one moment, but I want to play, again, this clip of Judge Pan at the D.C.
Appellate Court.
President ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival.
That's an official act in order to seal Team 6.
He would have to be, and would speedily be, you know, impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution.
But if he weren't, there would be no criminal prosecution, no criminal liability for that.
I asked you a yes or no question.
Could a president who ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution?
If he were impeached and convicted first.
the impeachment judgment clause all clearly presuppose that what the founders were concerned about was not i asked you a yes or no question could a president who ordered seal team six to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached would he be subject to criminal prosecution if he were impeached and convicted first so your answer is is my answer is qualified yes there is a political process that would have to occur under the structure of our constitution which require impeachment and conviction by the senate
in these exceptional cases as the olc memo itself points out from the department of justice you'd expect a speedy impeachment and conviction but what the f- I don't know if I could do it, folks.
I don't know if I could do it.
Julie Kelly, save me here.
Save me.
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I'm thinking that six feet ain't so far down.
Why will she not simply engage with what the man is saying, number one, about our founders, about our process, about our Constitution and our history and the jurisprudence in this country?
And why is she bringing up hypotheticals when he himself was talking about something that Barack Obama actually did while in office?
Well, because she's an activist judge.
Welcome to my world.
These are the judges I've been listening to for three years in Washington, D.C.
This is the same level of thoughtfulness, hypotheticals, hyperbole, obviously political lectures from the bench that I've been listening to for three years in J6 cases.
Florence Pan, not only is she not very bright, recall that she, of course, was appointed by Joe Biden.
Her husband, Max Steyer, is a longtime Democratic Party activist in Washington who was one of Brett Kavanaugh's chief antagonists.
He was just in a movie at Sundance Film Festival where he was interviewed and claimed the FBI did not properly investigate Brett Kavanaugh and especially his accusations, what he said that he saw Brett Kavanaugh do as a freshman at Yale.
So clearly she had her marching orders.
What a preposterous outlandish hypothetical.
And furthermore, if that did happen, the proper course as Trump's lawyer, Indicated is impeachment and conviction.
Does Judge Pan think that the attorney general from the president who used SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent is going to, what, arrest him and charge him?
We know that that's not how this goes.
So it was just silly.
But of course, it resulted in what her marching orders were to get the headlines we're already seeing by corporate media and legal analysts like Andrew Weissman Donald Trump's lawyer says if a president used SEAL Team 6 to kill a political rival, he could not be prosecuted, which of course is not what he said.
And this is what they do, by the way.
This is what they do in political campaigns, where someone will say, will ask a hypothetical question.
Chris Matthews famously did this to Trump in 2016 on the abortion question, where you ask these wild hypotheticals to get them to answer you.
Which have nothing to do, it's a classic political trick.
Anyone who's been in the business knows about these.
When I go to politics, when I'm advising, or in my previous career, when I would advise a politician and say, don't answer hypotheticals.
Do not play the game.
Right?
Never play the game.
And the lawyer here, which is tough, because you can't say that to a lawyer necessarily, because that's a federal judge.
Now you're not answering the question.
So it's a disgrace when it comes to our actual system, because she's talking about something that doesn't exist in reality, and then forcing him to answer the question.
And, you know, shame on her.
They are deciding, and we heard this today, Judge Pan, Judge Michelle Childs, also a Biden appointee, and Karen Henderson, appointed by George W. Bush.
But we heard the two Biden appointees jump on Trump's lawyer from the get-go.
He could barely even finish his, you know, opening statement before they were already badgering him.
Hypotheticals are fine when they are presented in court, but not when you're talking about an unprecedented ruling from Judge Chutkan denying Donald Trump's presidential immunity in this criminal prosecution.
This is not fun and games.
This will be a decision that will have long-term permanent consequences on the country, which is what Trump's lawyer brought up today.
This is Republic crushing decision, and it will perpetuate a cycle where an incoming president will immediately open a criminal investigation with his DOJ into his predecessor could be, you know, of the opposite party, we're assuming.
And that's all that that would happen time and time again.
So this isn't time for jokes.
This isn't time for preening before the media.
This is a serious discussion for this country.
And to have Judge Pan this lightweight, You know, make a joke or go to the biggest extreme she could possibly think of to produce headlines that she knew were going to happen.
This is what's happening in D.C., Jack.
This is why we should not have a federal courthouse in Washington, D.C.
We should not have a federal prosecutor, Matthew Graves.
We should not have a Washington FBI field office.
That's the triumvirate of evil.
That is the cabal that has been using our tax money, their unchecked powers, To not fight crime, but to go after Donald Trump, his family, his cabinet members, and now his voters.
And this is what we're ending up with.
Having to listen to an adult like Florence Pan and Michelle Childs try to trick a constitutional lawyer, trick him up with stupid hypotheticals.
It's really, really a dismal situation.
And it is ridiculous because of course he's talking about the history of the Constitution.
He's talking from the context of this is what the Constitution lays out in terms of when the president commits, and again, commits one of these offenses.
That's the impeachment process.
And so he simply clarifies that and he clarifies it over and over.
Then they start going in with these Crazy hypotheticals, and here's what's going to happen.
Florence Payne is going to go to the next High Society dinner in Washington, D.C., and she's going to be surrounded by people from the bar, from the D.C.
bar, not just the not just the wet bar, but she'll be there, too.
And she'll be there go and they'll say, oh, that was wonderful.
SEAL Team Six, that was so and the adulation and the love bombing that she's going to receive from them.
Our wonderful.
And so you and I and I'm so glad that we have this audio, by the way.
It's actually very useful for us because, you know, we can go out to, you know, the federal FEMA districts where the actual citizens live and say, look, the subjects of the regime and say, look at how they talk within the Capitol.
Look at how they talk about you.
Look at how they treat these decisions.
And I remember the Tea Party days and I was part of it.
And we upheld the Constitution and we talked about we had great debates about that.
They're not having debates about the Constitution up there.
They're not talking about the founders and the framers and Madison and the history.
No, they're making ridiculous hypotheticals.
But here's what's not ridiculous, and there's just one minute to the break, Julie.
What's not ridiculous is what they're talking about is their own power, isn't it?
It is.
And at one point, Florence Pan, in this weird little riff, said that Donald Trump's interests as president We're not aligned with the interests of the executive branch, the institution.
He is the executive branch, Florence Pan.
He is this.
The institution's interests are Donald Trump's president's interests.
He is.
Someone send her a constitution.
Quick, quick break, Julie Kelly.
We've got another segment.
We've got another segment.
We got a lot to say.
Julie Kelly's always got a lot to say.
We are going to make sure that she's able to say all that.
Let me get back.
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We're breaking down everything that happened.
This bombshell.
Shots fired, really, within Washington, D.C.
And no, I don't mean over in Anacostia at the gas station.
I mean legal shots and political shots fired.
Republic-shattering decisions that were in with this judge, Judge Pan at one point, who was a total dyed-in-the-wool, Marxist, apparatchik, diversity hire.
Actually says, at one point, that Trump was interested in election integrity, and that's not in the interest of the executive branch and the institution.
Julie Kelly, what is going on that would make a judge say something like that?
Because, of course, the President of the United States is the executive branch.
And then, number two, who is this judge?
So I think she was doing it.
A lot of the controversy, of course, of all of this is was President Trump's conduct within the confines of his official duties?
Or was it outside of that, that he was acting on his own, that he was acting in political interest?
So that could sort of explain this muddled whatever thing that she said about election integrity and Donald Trump not aligning with the Priorities of the institution of the executive branch.
If that's not an admittance as to the priorities of these judges protecting the institutions that their friends, that their husbands, that their children, their neighbors all populate and run.
Boy, that was a really telling moment.
Um, but Judge Pan, interesting figure.
She said the quiet part out loud.
She said the quiet part out loud because this is someone who lives in the bubble.
This is someone who's surrounded by the deep state.
She's a part of the deep state.
She's saying the quiet part out loud.
They're like, no, Florence, shut up.
Don't say it.
That she's saying, she's telling you right there.
The executive branch wants him out.
What does she mean by that?
This is the interagency.
Remember, folks, the interagency, as we have to say it here on the show.
All of the institutions and the agencies in D.C.
want him gone.
And she's saying that Trump's interest in election integrity doesn't align with theirs because the deep state is not interested in election integrity.
Well, I mean, look, she both of those judges, Michelle Childs and Florence Pan, appointed by Joe Biden, gave Trump's lawyers a lot of fodder.
To take this to the Supreme Court, this line of thinking, the hypothetical, as we as we noted, and then, of course, this admittance that Donald Trump was working against the institution of the executive branch.
So lots of fodder there for his attorneys to, you know, seek a petition before the Supreme Court.
But look, this is not the only reason why Judge Pan is dangerous.
As I put on Twitter, Panels at the Supreme at the appellate court, the circuit court, are supposed to be randomly assigned.
So strange that Judge Pan just happens to turn up on these three judge panels of all these consequential politically charged decisions.
She upheld Beryl Howell, allowing the search warrant, the subpoena for Donald Trump's Twitter files and the nondisclosure order.
Preventing Twitter from telling Trump about it and the $350,000 fine that Beryl Howell, an Obama appointee, brazen partisan as well, levied against the company.
She upheld that decision.
Judge Pan, also on the three panel, three judge panel that upheld another ruling by Beryl Howell, piercing attorney client privilege between Evan Corcoran and Donald Trump in the classified documents case.
By the way, an investigation proceedings that never should have happened in Washington, all should have been handled in Southern Florida.
Nonetheless, Judge Pan is on that panel, upholding Howell, piercing attorney-client privilege, and forcing Evan Corcoran to turn over all of his records to Jack Smith.
She also was on both of the three judge panels that barely upheld DOJ's use of obstruction of an official proceeding 1512C2, barely upheld it, In two cases, and of course in one of those that now is pending before the Supreme Court, represents half of Jack Smith's criminal indictment against Donald Trump.
Now that you hear her in action, I've listened to her at other appellate hearings, the fact that she ends up on all these panels and writes, in some cases, the 1512c2, the deciding opinion, represents the deciding opinion.
As I said, these are long-term permanent decisions made by someone of the political and The one that I wanted to ask about is, so she's married to this guy Max Steyer.
Max Steyer is the CEO of the Partnership for Public Service.
You know, when I hear a name like that, I say, wow, that's got to be, sounds like the Open Society Foundation.
There's these wonderful names.
What is, who is Max Steyer and what does he do?
So, of course, he is, as I said, a Democratic Party activist.
He got involved in the character assassination attempt against Brett Kavanaugh.
He was a classmate of Brett Kavanaugh's at Yale, and he claimed that he saw Brett Kavanaugh engage in some lewd behavior with another girl at a party.
He took that information to the FBI, to Democratic senators.
It was all over the news.
He claimed that the FBI did not investigate His claims, but he's continued to perpetuate that and was just in this film released at Sundance where he's interviewed and again claimed that the FBI is not properly that all of these sexual misconduct allegations about Brett Kavanaugh.
Now think now, game this out with me though, Jack.
Brett Kavanaugh is going to be a Supreme Court justice considering his appellate decisions by Max Steyer's wife.
So that could give him a little opportunity for some revenge.
Not sure that Brett Kavanaugh is capable of it.
But it would certainly be deliciously ironic if he is the deciding vote.
Well, but at the same time, but at the same time, we have a minute left here, but at the same time, it can also be used from the Democrats and from the left to call for him to recuse himself in this by saying, oh, you've got a conflict of interest because your accuser happens to be the husband of the appellate you've got a conflict of interest because your accuser happens to be the husband That's what I think is going to happen here.
Could be.
Not so sure that that works in the Democrats' favor, that they want to bring attention to the fact that Florence Pan is married to Max Starr, but who knows?
You know, they are.
At the end of the day, it's all power.
Julie, just one minute left on this.
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Because I know you have so much more.
I wish we had more time with you.
Unfortunately, the constraints of time are what they are.
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