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	This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
	Despite Biden's unpopularity, despite the concerns about the economy, you saw Democrats beat Republicans in solidly Republican states, Kentucky, Ohio, and in key battleground states.
	There was a key race in Pennsylvania.
	So this is abortion The arrest of Soheib Abu Ayyash.
	He is a 20-year-old Jordanian-Palestinian who was there in Texas.
	He had been in the country illegally.
	He was illegally in possession of a firearm.
	He has allegedly been in direct contact with others who share a radical mindset.
	The charges against him further allege he's been conducting physical training and has trained with weapons to possibly commit an attack.
	The Prime Minister has also said definitively no ceasefire unless there is a return of all hostages.
	Is that a reasonable position that he's taken?
	You'll have to talk to the Prime Minister again.
	We're not going to characterize or armchair quarterback everything he's saying.
	We still believe that a general ceasefire is not appropriate at this time.
	What is true here is that every single one of them has not acknowledged the fact that Palestinians are dying in the tens of thousands.
	My colleagues are blatantly attempting to silence the only Palestinian American representative right here.
	Let me tell you, it's not surprising because this place is where 1,700 members of Congress, this elected body, enslave black people.
	Ivanka Trump is testifying in the sprawling New York fraud case against her father's business empire.
	Unlike her father and brother, she is not a defendant in this case.
	A huge explosion at a chemical plant.
	People who live within five miles of that explosion in Sheppard, a city north of Houston, are being told to shelter in place.
	But in Ohio, we have the legalization of recreational marijuana, the 24th state to do that.
	Yes, on issue one, we'll pass putting the right to abortion in the state constitution in Ohio.
	Hi everyone, this is Aveda Duffy filling in for Jack Pasovic.
	Yesterday, Ohio voted on Issue 1.
	Did not go well for the pro-life movement.
	What's really interesting is that exit polls found or indicating that 71% of unmarried women voted to enshrine abortion in the Ohio State Constitution.
	They were followed by 64% of unmarried men, but there's almost a 10% gap between these two groups.
	Young women are carrying the torch for the bloody abortion movement in America.
	It's a really interesting thing to think about.
	Why is that?
	Young women are the type of people who will post, insert oppressed group on their Instagram.
	They post black squares when the BLM riots were coming about.
	They have choose peace, not love on their bumper stickers.
	These are people that want to be compassionate and good to others, and yet they are the most strident supporters of really the greatest stain on America, which is abortion, which is the killing of innocent children.
	The hatred that is coming from the pro-abortion movement, and specifically from young women, is rooted in feminism.
	Feminism is a really hateful ideology.
	Just last week, a young woman, former Disney star, her name is Sabrina Carpenter, she posted a music video for her new song "Feather," where it literally showcases the killing of men, because all men are pigs.
	They're sexist pigs, right, who want to oppress women, and so they deserve to die, is essentially the message of this disturbing video.
	You should go on YouTube and watch it.
	Why are women, the poster children, young women, for these bloody, violent ideological ideations in our country, whether that be abortion, whether that be man-hating?
	Why are they susceptible to this?
	And what are Republicans doing to reach out to them?
	A lot of this is promulgating off of TikTok and Instagram, where Democrats have a complete monopoly over young people in general, but specifically young women who spend exorbitant amount of time on social media.
	Some polls indicate that it's women 18 to 25, over eight hours a day, they're on their phone scrolling.
	What are Republicans doing to reach out to them, not only in an electoral way, which is important, but also on a spiritual and emotional level?
	Because Democrats, like I said, have a monopoly on them.
	And it's not good for them.
	Women aren't happy.
	This is this demographic of women, unmarried, young, single women.
	is not only one of the least happy demographics in America, also one of the most mentally ill demographics.
	There's a problem facing all young people, but especially young women, and it's rooted in feminism.
	And how do we oppose it is the question, the questions that we're going to be answering today on the show.
	I'm going to be talking with Pichie Keenan, with Katie Faust, about everything that's happening in America and how we are going to combat it as a culture.
	Things are going to get really difficult for us in the future if we aren't able to address young women in America.
	These are the future of our countries, our future mothers, future daughters, future grandmothers.
	It's important.
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	Joining me now is Federalist Senior Contributor Peachy Keenan, who is also the author of Domestic Extremist, A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War, which is why she is going to be a perfect guest to talk about what is happening to young women in America, what can we do to reach out to them on the right On an electoral level, but also on a spiritual and emotional level.
	Peachy, so great to have you here.
	I'm just going to kick that question off to you.
	You saw the exit polls.
	You saw how this giant block of unmarried women, most of them probably young, voted to enshrine abortion in the Ohio State Constitution.
	What are we going to do as conservatives to address this problem?
	What can we do?
	Yeah, it's really amazing.
	I was actually just doing research a few days ago about the difference between married and unmarried women.
	Look at your poll.
	70% in 2020 of unmarried women voted for Democrats, of single women.
	So, I mean, basically feminism is working as designed.
	We are now reaping the fruits of 50 years of this progressive project.
	And it's really working almost too well.
	Because we're actually running out of people.
	We're not making enough babies.
	I mean, they're going to go extinct over time.
	But right now, this is just a huge victory lap for them.
	So feminists, take a bow.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	So I've talked about this before.
	I think I mentioned on the last show, last Friday, there's a lot of debate about where should Republicans be when we're talking about reaching out to young people.
	And there's been a big shunning of TikTok, because TikTok has the CCP influence, right?
	And there's a fear of that.
	But also, the Democrats have a monopoly on TikTok.
	They have a monopoly on these social media platforms where young people are consuming all of their news.
	I said in the intro that it's eight hours or more a day that they're spending online.
	They're not being influenced by their family or their church community.
	It's all coming from their phones.
	Should Republicans be on TikTok?
	Is there a way that we can be on social media and have the same kind of messaging that the left does?
	Well, it's so funny because there's such a disconnect between young women and young men on the Internet.
	Young men seem to be coming more red pilled.
	They become more conservative the more they're on social media because there's so many right wing influencers, young men tweeting and I guess on TikTok and social media that kind of offers young men an alternative.
	To the kind of feminized culture that they're being offered at school and college classrooms, they already feel sort of ostracized.
	And so they can go online and they can find other young men who are just like them, who are like, no, it's okay to be a guy.
	It's okay to be a straight man in America, you're not alone.
	But for women, it seems to be the exact opposite.
	The more time you spend on social media, the more left wing you become.
	And the images and the influencers are just so appealing and young women just are different.
	You know, I was a young woman and I was extremely influenced by the culture, by MTV, by Madonna, by all, you know, the 1980s, all the young women who looked pretty and looked cute and they were popular.
	And that is really what's driving a young woman.
	I mean, the pressure to be, to fit in is so strong among women to, you know, be part of the sisterhood, be part of your sorority.
	To not be ostracized.
	For young men, they are not quite as sensitive to that.
	So I think that's where it starts, that young women just, you know, the worst thing you can be if you're a young woman in your 20s is to be like a social pariah, is to be an outcast.
	I mean, that's just social death.
	And that is what I think women are trying to avoid.
	So, you know, do all of them agree with everything the feminists are offering?
	I don't know.
	But they can't ever show that they disagree because then they're out.
	And they don't go to the parties where there might be cute guys and they won't look cool on the videos.
	So there's just so much social pressure.
	Now, should Republicans go on TikTok?
	Just that combination is so cringe to me.
	And that's the problem, really, is the Republican Party, when you just say the brand, it's so unappealing.
	And I think it's unappealing to everyone.
	It just sounds like someplace you don't wanna go.
	There's nothing cool happening in the Republican Party that any 23-year-old woman would be attracted to.
	And so I don't really know how, that's sort of an intractable problem.
	I don't know how much TikTok they could even do.
	I think the more they were on TikTok, the fewer women would like them.
	Yeah, it's so it's so interesting.
	I wasn't in college too long ago.
	I graduated in 2022.
	And a lot of this is stemming from Sex without consequences culture, right?
	So they think that in order to have freedom and reproductive freedom specifically, abortion is essential.
	And they have tied everything about themselves really to this issue because they want the freedom to really sleep around because feminism has told them that sex is the same, has the same impact on men and women and of course we know that that's not true.
	Can you speak a little bit to that, Peachy?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Feminism has promised them liberation, liberation from all the guardrails that were in place to keep women under control, i.e.
	acting like women.
	But now they want women to act like men, which means basically full promiscuity, however many partners you want, no consequences, it's fine.
	You can just have sex exactly like a man.
	But again, women are totally different than men.
	There is an emotional component, and there's heartbreak and all these other consequences that women deal with that just men don't, just because we are biologically and emotionally different.
	So when women are sold this myth that you can just have sex with whoever and there's no consequences, You are cutting yourself off from your internal, your natural state, which requires women biologically to be more prudent on who they are intimate with.
	There are biological consequences.
	You have to be more careful just as a woman in the millennia of humanity.
	And reproductive technology, the birth control pill, and abortion has wiped that all away.
	And the repercussions are stark.
	And there's been now all these studies that have come out, you know, 30, 40 years later about the birth control pill, how it decreases women's libido, it makes them depressed, it makes them anxious.
	It even, I read somewhere that it turns women asexual and turns them into lesbians.
	I mean, it's wreaking havoc in young women, but it's sold as promiscuity.
	But the reason women can't stop being promiscuous, they couldn't suddenly put on their Tinder profile, You know, I'm chased or I'm saving myself.
	I don't want to just have a hookup.
	I want, like, real love, true love.
	Because then you, again, the social pressure, you lose access to this whole host of men who just want to, you know, hook up with you.
	They aren't looking for a wife.
	And so a woman who chooses to beat more chase to maybe save herself for marriage or at least limit her partners to some low number is going to lose out on all this social fun, all these She can't tell her friends at brunch about the cute guy she hooked up with.
	You're taking yourself out of that world.
	And it's such an incredible culture shift and changing of your mindset that these women, you can't do it really on your own.
	I mean, you really need to kind of be, to either like hit rock bottom.
	And realize, oh, no, I have to do something with my life.
	I've had my heart broken so many times, and I'm lonely, and I want children.
	What do I do here?
	And kind of have that awakening.
	Or you have to meet the right guy and just fall madly in love, and he loves you, and you're taken out of that horrible merry-go-round of dating.
	And otherwise, you're just going to keep going.
	I wrote about in my book the fact that Tinder just had its 10-year anniversary last year.
	And there were women who downloaded Tinder day one And 10 years later, are still on Tinder.
	And I mean, that is not a success story.
	It's so sad.
	Everything that you've just described is so sad.
	The future in the world that they say is ideal for women is so detrimental to them, just mental health-wise.
	If you have a bunch of different sexual partners, right, that's a very sad thing.
	It has an emotional impact on women.
	Sex means different things to women than it does men, and so it's very impactful.
	But then it's also waiting for marriage and children until you've already established your career.
	Well, if you're waiting for so long, right, sometimes women reach the point where they never get married or they get married, but they have to freeze their eggs.
	And then they're mothers, but they're older mothers.
	And that becomes really difficult too with its own problems.
	There's a lot of sadness, I think, in what the left is presenting young women.
	And yet they'll fight for it tooth and nail.
	They're going to the polls, they're voting with the Democrats, and yet the Democrats are offering really only misery for so many women.
	Pichi, do you have any advice for young women who are being inculcated with this?
	I mean, you hope that some of them will have maybe a bad experience that will wake them up.
	where the sex with no consequences lie starts.
	What do you have to say to these young women before they head off into that culture? - I mean, you hope that some of them will have maybe a bad experience that will wake them up.
	They get hurt so badly, or they haven't intended pregnancy, or they feel so lonely They don't know how to meet someone.
	They're sick of it.
	That is really what it takes to kind of wake someone up.
	Otherwise, they're just going to go through college.
	And when they come out the other end, they're going to be sort of a fully baked feminist and ready to engage in 10, 20 more years of craziness.
	It is so sad.
	You mentioned egg freezing.
	There's a woman named Bridget.
	I believe her name is Adams.
	She was on the cover of Businessweek.
	About 10 years ago, as this hero, she froze her eggs.
	And the headline was, freeze your eggs, free your career.
	And so she froze her eggs at age 38 or something, because she was single.
	At age 45, she defrosted her eggs.
	Half of them were abnormal.
	She only was able to implant one embryo, and that one failed.
	And when she got the news that she would never be a biological mother, she had a nervous breakdown.
	You know, she started screaming.
	And it's just so sad.
	And then she ended up having a baby in her late 40s with a donor egg and donor sperm.
	So the whole myth, just expose the whole myth of that reproductive technology can save you, can free you.
	No, it can't.
	It will ruin your life.
	But the consequences stories don't get out there.
	You only see the victorious stories, the heroic stories when they pitch egg freezing as this great thing.
	You don't see the repercussions.
	And I think maybe we can do a better job of showing the horror stories of feminism, just like detransitioner stories.
	Really expose the mythology behind transgender ideology.
	Maybe we can show the consequences of feminism.
	It's a really bloody, a very sad movement that the left is presenting to women.
	Even just the reality of what abortion is, right?
	I mean, there are so many women who don't even know.
	So I think this has been a wonderful conversation.
	Peachy, where can people go to follow you?
	You can follow me on Twitter @keenanpichy and my sub stack, kichikeenan.substack.com. - Today, you know, they talk about influences.
	These are influences and they're friends of mine.
	Jack, who's so like, where's Jack?
	Jack, he's done a great job. - Everyone, this is Avita Duffy.
	We're going to talk a little bit about an ad that just ran in Virginia.
	We're going to talk about what's happening more with women, how they voted this last night, but then also how they voted in the midterms, how much abortion has been impacting all of these elections in the wake of Roe.
	Let's bring in Katie Faust.
	She is going to be a wonderful guest.
	I'm so happy to have you here, Katie.
	She's the founder of Them Before Us, and she is the author of Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City.
	Katie, thank you so much for being here.
	Really good to join you.
	There's so much happening in the world, and I'll tell you what, there's never been a bigger need for courage and clarity, so I appreciate being able to chat with you about all the happenings.
	Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about what has happened with young women last night, how they voted, how the abortion issue has impacted all of the elections that happened last night, and then also if you want to talk about the midterms as well.
	Take it away.
	Well, you know, I'm not any kind of wise political commentator, but I am very familiar with What is going on in the human realm, both from my advocacy with children's rights in relation to marriage and family work, as a mom who's raising four kids, four teenagers in this insane world, especially this hyper leftist city of Seattle, but also as a woman who is married to a pastor who does especially this hyper leftist city of Seattle, but also as a woman who is married to a
	There's a lot going on in the world today right now as it relates to all the questions of what does it mean to be human?
	And I think that we really saw that on display yesterday when it came to issue one in Ohio.
	And the absolute horrifying and bizarre spectacle of watching young women cheering, crying over their ability to murder their own unborn babies.
	And so really, it's an opportunity for us to say, what is going on in our culture right now?
	What is going on with our perspective of what it means to be human, and how we're addressing all of those different issues, and then how we're communicating those truths to the next generation.
	It's very, very clear that there is a lot of work to be done.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you mentioned what it means to be human, and I know that you've done a lot of work on this transhumanist movement, and all of these things are really intimately connected.
	I mean, the life issue, it's a complete disrespect, right, for not just human life, but also the most innocent life that exists on Earth, right, an unborn child.
	But you're also seeing a different emergence, right, in the world of Elon Musk with Neuralink and Apple just releasing this—I forget what their names are, but they're these headsets, right, where you can have an immersive experience in a digital world, right?
	Everything is virtual.
	And suddenly people aren't able to interact as human beings, on top of not really respecting human life as it is.
	Can you talk a little bit about what we're facing on a human level and the kind of impact that the tech world is having on our ability to perceive one another and care for one another as people?
	Yeah.
	And I mean, ultimately, all of this comes down to your worldview.
	All of this comes down to, honestly, theological questions.
	You don't know.
	We're not going to be able to know what the answer is about things like abortion or IVF or All of the transhumanist technologies that are coming down the pipe, unless we first know what humans are for, who we are, when life begins, who decides when it ends, what are the proper uses of these technologies are not questions that you can be answered until you first have a firm grasp on what it means to be human.
	And so we actually have quite a bit of work to be done.
	I would say, you know, to the philosophers and to the Christian scholars that are out there, this is your moment.
	This is your moment to give a proper understanding of the human person, because every major cultural battle that we are facing today, from abortion to reproductive technologies, to our interactions with screens, to these different virtual reality headset world that we're about to step into, all of the ways that we are genetically modifying humans, you know, even before they are born, even just at the cellular level in a lot of ways,
	Really, first, we have to have the theological underpinnings to even know what humans are before we can know what technology applications are permissible.
	Ultimately, this is a battle of worldview, and we are really, in so many ways, at a civilizational moment.
	And the reality is that only the Christian worldview has the scaffolding to sustain a human dignifying approach and answer and response to all of these emerging technologies.
	So it is the time for Christians to be clear and courageous about who we are as made in the image of God and all of the rights and protections that need to be extended, especially to the most vulnerable, in light of all of these new emerging technological innovations and threats.
	I agree with you that Christianity is essential to rebuking all of this, to standing up against it.
	The problem that we have right now is, yeah, there are great Christian families, I'm sure like yours, Katie, or like the one that I was raised in, but most people are, I mean, Gen Z specifically, they're the most irreligious generation to date.
	You have most kids, right, they don't go to religious school, Christian schools, Catholic schools.
	They go to public schools, where they get social-emotional learning, and they might have a transgender teacher, and they're taught to be confused about basic biology and are inculcated, really, into cultural Marxism from the onset.
	And then they go on to college, right, and things get even worse, and they have a critical theory department instituted in their colleges.
	And of course, colleges used to be religious now, but most of them aren't.
	And even the ones that are religious are hardly religious at all.
	And I'm thinking of like Loyola in Chicago and California, religious in name only, right?
	And so we have our institutions collapsing when it comes when it comes to the Christian values that our country was founded on, how can we stand up against that?
	What can conservatives do besides just in their own home, which is essential, right?
	But to also promote Christianity and a Christian culture in an America that seems so godless?
	Well, there's a few things.
	First of all, we cannot abandon or forsake or deny the power of the family.
	It is the one institution.
	I mean, when you look at business, entertainment, education, academia, the only institution that hasn't been captured is yours, your institution, your family.
	And that is why the left is relentless in their pursuit and the destruction of this critical little platoon of mother and father raising their children together.
	Why is it that they are after parental rights?
	Because it is the greatest obstacle to advancing their woke ideology.
	There is so much power in parenting, so much more power in parenting than there is in politics when it comes to actual cultural transformation.
	And that is one reason why we wrote our latest book, Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City.
	We're doing it with our kids in a hyper-liberal environment, with them largely going to public schools.
	And our kids can stand against the lies.
	They can refute their teachers when needed.
	They can stand alone if necessary.
	And I'll tell you what, they are opening the eyes of the people around them as a result.
	But there's other things that we need to do as well, in addition to just parenting our own kids, regardless of whether we're in a red state or a blue state, homeschool, private school, public school.
	We actually need to retake the institutions.
	And for way too long, Christians and conservatives have hung back, have handed over these institutions for leftist domination.
	Quick story, I was at the ARC conference in London last week, Jordan Peterson's new project.
	I'm on the advisory board for it.
	And Jonathan Pazzo asked a question of all these 1500 people from 72 countries who were doing work to restore human flourishing, for responsible governance, for reducing the administrative state.
	For using our resources wisely and stewarding climate appropriately.
	And he said, raise your hand if you are a part of an organized formal religion.
	95% of the people in that room said we're religious.
	And what they meant is we're Christians or Jews.
	And then he sheepishly said, well, how many are atheists?
	And only about 25 people total.
	Do you understand right now that it's already happening?
	Christians are already doing the hard work of retaking institutions, of showing the way forward on all of the major civilizational issues that we are facing.
	Don't be discouraged.
	Take heart.
	Be courageous.
	Work for I am with you, says the Lord.
	And see where is that intersection between what the world needs and what God is calling you to.
	And I really think in a few generations, things are going to look very different.
	That is very heartening to hear.
	You know, as somebody who grew up in a liberal city for elementary school, had a little bit of a reprieve in high school because I changed schools, but then in college I went to school in Chicago, which is a very left-wing university, sometimes it feels really isolating for people, especially ones that live in liberal cities like you do and are just bombarded with Marxist, cultural Marxist ideology all the time, constantly feeling
	Yeah, thenbeforeus.com is the place to figure out what we're doing related to restoring the social fabric in regards to marriage and family.
	is a really heartening, very wonderful thing.
	Katie, can you tell us where people can go to follow you and where we can learn more about the work that you're doing in your foundation? - Yeah, thembeforeus.com is the place to figure out what we're doing related to restoring the social fabric in regards to marriage and family.
	That is, we're doing, it's a global movement and we will bring this cultural conversation to every country of the world.
	I'm also on Twitter at Advo underscore Katie where you get all my opinions and raising conservative kids in a woke city can be purchased at any place that sells books.
	That's wonderful.
	Katie, it's been so great to talk to you.
	I'm so happy that we were able to have this conversation because sometimes when you come out of elections, like we did last night, and you just feel down on yourself.
	I felt like that way at the midterms.
	It felt like we're losing our country.
	It feels like there's no hope and that many of us just have nowhere to look to.
	And so to know that there are like-minded people who are fighting and that things are going to potentially be turning up is a really positive thing.
	Yeah, we have a lot of reasons to be optimistic.
	We are the party of life and protection and re-knitting together the social fabric and that will prevail.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So as we're moving on, we're going to be transitioning to a CISA conversation, another one about government censorship with John Daniel Davidson.
	It's going to be an interesting conversation, I think, where we're going to really get into the authoritarianism that we've been seeing in the Twitter files over the last several months, but really coming into a culmination a couple of days ago when we got way more information about what was censored and who was censored.
	And John was one of them.
	So I'm really excited for this conversation.
	Breaking news!
	Women all over Virginia are standing up for freedom, voting to stop Glenn Youngkin and the Virginia Legislature from banning abortion.
	Vote!
	Look what you made us do.
	The only thing stopping them from banning abortion is you.
	Vote Democrat.
	Your legislative leaders matter.
	This election, keep yourself in power. - Post! - So the pro-abortion movement just took over Barbie, I guess, and they just made it a girl boss ad for abortion and for this anti-Roe v. Wade movement that we've been seeing emerge in the post-Roe era.
	This is really similar to a lot of the stuff that I'm seeing on TikTok.
	My next guest, John, does not like TikTok.
	Nobody at the Federalist tab does except for me, but I'm on it, and I'll tell you that the rhetoric is just like that ad you saw.
	People, young women really have made the abortion issue a freedom issue, a reproductive rights issue.
	And it's become a very homogenous, like I said, very girl boss issue.
	And the rhetoric is very similar.
	John, I want to bring you in here and talk a little bit about what you thought of that ad, what you thought of issue one, of women carrying the torch for issue one.
	And also they voted very high numbers for Democrats in the last midterms as well.
	What do you make of all of this?
	And that ad specifically and the tone of that ad.
	Well, it's easy to laugh at that kind of thing.
	And it's very cartoonish.
	It's very much, as you say, girl boss, Barbie aesthetic.
	And unfortunately, though, I think that's what the discourse has kind of devolved into.
	And I think, really, this is the real legacy of Roe.
	In addition, obviously, to the millions and millions of lives that have been lost because of abortion, thanks to Roe, the legacy of Roe in our political discourse has been to sort of distill the abortion question down to a crude kind of girl boss feminism issue, in which if you're
	If you're against abortion or you raise questions about abortion or you want to talk about, you know, personhood of the unborn or morality or anything like that, you're like this sort of like handmaidens tale oppressor of women.
	And if you and if you stand up against that, you're like this empowered girl boss who's like taking charge of the country and and taking charge of your future.
	I will say that's one legacy of Ro.
	And I think that we that we kind of saw that play out in the elections last night and we saw it play out.
	We've seen it play out elsewhere.
	And certainly the money that goes into ads like this is really pushing that narrative hard and it has been successful electorally so far. - Yeah, what bothers me a lot about all of this, right, is it's centered in compassion for women, right?
	Women's rights, women's issues, saying that we want to help women, the pro-lifers just want to make them have their babies and then, you know, they drop them on their butts and it's all over for them, you know, once the baby's actually born.
	And the reality is that it's actually the opposite.
	It's the really uncompassionate thing, the really bloody wrong thing, is to kill an innocent, unique human life.
	based on circumstances.
	But women who are very compassionate and who really want to do what's right.
	I said in the beginning of this show that these are the type of people who will say, I stand with insert oppressed group.
	Young women do that all the time.
	They want to be seen as caring and loving.
	Those good intentions, those good instincts that women have are being manipulated for something really awful, really bloody by the pro-choice movement, by the left in general, by feminism.
	John, I asked a couple of my guests this, but I'm really curious what you think.
	How can we reach out to young people in general who have been manipulated into thinking that abortion is compassionate and that actually it's the pro-lifers who are not caring about women who are in bad situations?
	Well, I think that you started to hit on it right there, and that is to come at this idea that abortion is somehow a compassionate and caring thing, and that somehow it's a salutary thing for the women who get abortions and the families that go through that.
	That's the point to argue, and I think that's a persuasion point in this debate.
	Because really, when you look at studies and even anecdotally, you can see what a destructive force abortion is in society and in the lives of Of people and families who have had abortions done.
	So not just the destruction of the unborn life, but of the women as well.
	And that touches on something else that I think is important to talk about.
	We talk about the legacy of Roe v. Wade and what its real legacy is.
	You have many, many women and men in this country who have been complicit in or had abortions over 50 years.
	And to suddenly have Roe vs. Wade overturned and have this issue tossed back to the states and have these kind of political battles now, which were dormant for a long time because politicians could just sort of say, I defer to the courts.
	Well, now you have this sort of moral reckoning, I would say, where you have to make a case to a lot of people who have been involved with abortions and had them or been complicit in them or paid for them and confronting them.
	With the reality that what they've engaged in is morally wrong, and in fact, a monstrous evil.
	That is a conversation that abortion proponents do not want to have.
	To come to the knowledge that you have been wrong about something so profound and so fundamental as the taking of an innocent life, requires more than kind of the bland sloganeering that we've gotten used to from the GOP, and more than the bland sloganeering that even Democrats got used to, you know, decades ago with Bill Clinton's safe, legal, and rare.
	We really have to sort of find a new way to talk about abortion and reframe it, not just in moral terms, but also in terms of what you mentioned, that it's not a compassionate thing.
	It's not a positive thing in people's lives.
	And we really need to come at that idea that it's something to be celebrated.
	It's really not.
	So, John, I want to transition here a little bit.
	And these...
	They don't seem related, but these two issues are actually related because the losses that we experienced last night, also during the midterms, this is all related to election integrity and making sure that we have secure elections.
	We just learned a few days ago that more information about the partnership that our government, specifically the DHS, has had with private entities who then The government outsources censorship on social media, particularly censorship related to the integrity of our elections.
	And you, John, were one of those people who was censored by the DHS, a subsidiary to the DHS called CISA, ahead or actually following the 2020 election.
	Can you—we're going to have—we have a little bit left in this block.
	We'll talk about it more in a second.
	But explain a little bit about what you were censored on.
	What other colleagues of ours were also targeted for?
	Yes, specifically Sean Davis, Federalist co-founder and CEO, and Molly Hemingway, our Editor-in-Chief.
	Their Twitter accounts and a number of their tweets immediately following the November 2020 election were censored.
	And one of those tweets that Sean sent out was tweeting on an article that I had written about some of the irregularities that we saw on election night and the day after the election.
	In places like Wisconsin and Michigan specifically, just calling attention to the fact that there were irregularities and that the irregularities were likely a result of shenanigans by Democrat-controlled polling places in Democrat-controlled cities like Milwaukee.
	And so those were the sorts of things, at least initially right after the election, that were being censored.
	And at the time, we didn't really understand, we didn't really know, and a lot of us were taken by surprise that these tweets and these articles were just being taken down or limited in their reach with very little explanation.
	Well, now, thanks not only to the Twitter files from earlier this year that sort of exposed this ecosystem of censorship, across big tech and the deputization of Twitter by the federal government, including the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.
	We now know that the government was really using third parties to lean very heavily on these social media companies to take down these sorts of tweets.
	This includes not just opinions or like takes, but news stories and other commentary and even jokes, as we learned from yesterday's news.
	Yeah, it's really interesting.
	The reasons that CISA has said that they're going to censor people, they claim it's because, you know, it has malinformation, which we're going to talk about next time.
	It's information that's true, but that's inconvenient to the government, and so they censor it.
	I'm working long hours.
	I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
	So, So this was a partnership—I want to make it clear—with the federal government, with the DHS, a Stanford disinformation organization.
	And it wasn't just Federalist staff writers like Sean Davis, Molly Hemingway, an article by John Davidson, who's my guest right now.
	It was also the host of the show, Jack Posobiec, who was censored.
	It was Charlie Kirk.
	It was the sitting president of the United States, Donald Trump.
	Who was being censored by the United States government while he was in office.
	This is an explosive story that says a lot just about how far our federal agencies have devolved and the way that they clearly do not respect the Constitution, the oath that many of them took when they got their major positions in these agencies.
	I think what a lot of people are really thinking about, John, is what do we do, right?
	Because this is essential.
	Addressing this censorship is essential.
	There's a court case, Missouri v. Biden, that's trying to hold these entities accountable.
	But many of us just feel really helpless.
	No one's going to go to jail because of this.
	Republicans, 109 of them in the House, voted against defunding CISA, which was the nerve center of all this censorship.
	What can Americans do?
	What should they be telling their politicians to do to address all this censorship?
	Well, one thing that people can do is educate themselves and understand kind of the breadth of the problem.
	And to do that, you kind of have to take a step back.
	One of the things that became really clear when the Twitter files came out earlier this year is that a lot of the tools that the federal government created for itself after 9-11
	Sort of adding significant counterintelligence and intelligence gathering and surveillance capabilities to the FBI, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, these kind of tools that were—the argument for them at the time was that we need to be able to detect and disrupt terrorist attacks before they happen.
	So we can't take a law enforcement approach to terrorism.
	We have to take A proactive sort of, we have to interdict these plots.
	And so we have to watch this massive espionage and surveillance apparatus in order to do that.
	And some people at the time warned that this was very dangerous, that if you created such a surveillance apparatus, eventually it wouldn't be used on foreign terrorists, it would be turned on the American people.
	And those people were ignored at the time.
	But everything that they said 20 years ago now, has turned out to be true, because the tools and the agencies and the apparatus that was designed to go after terrorists has been turned on American people, and has been used to throttle free speech and censor online content and opinions and jokes and satire and real news reporting as well.
	I think that's the important thing to understand.
	That's what the FBI was doing, especially after January 6.
	It ended up just sending Twitter databases of accounts to suspend, block, throttle, censor, crush, ban, as though Twitter was an arm of the FBI or the Department of Homeland Security or CISA.
	As far as we know, that sort of thing continues to this day.
	It's not as though this has all been dismantled just because we know about it.
	So interesting.
	You bring up parody accounts.
	And that, to me, that was the one that made my blood boil, right?
	So, yeah, the FBI was sending direct tweets and Facebook posts that they needed to be censored by these companies.
	The White House was doing the same thing.
	The Biden administration was sending Jill Biden parody accounts and tweets to Twitter to say, hey, get rid of this because it makes the first lady look bad.
	When they say disinformation or misinformation, it really doesn't mean that these things aren't true.
	In fact, they actually admit that.
	CISA says that part of their job is to get rid of malinformation, which is literally defined by CISA as information that's true, but that is somehow damaging.
	And what they mean is damaging to themselves and their own narrative.
	And they use these words to manipulate us to say, well, we're not pro-disinformation, so I guess it's okay for the government to potentially stop bad people from telling lies on the internet, but the problem is, who decides what's true?
	And ultimately, because our federal government is so partisan, The left ends up deciding what's true, and by and large, the right is the one that gets censored on these platforms, and they make it impossible for us to survive as an entity, right?
	If we can't share our articles, right, or human events can't put out their clips because it's getting censored all the time, well then you can't really exist because you can't spread the message, you can't make money, you can't get ad revenue.
	So there's a lot of threats that this poses, not just to the First Amendment right, but the way that we are able to share information in our country.
	John, what is this going to mean for 2024?
	It doesn't seem like these problems have really been addressed.
	We know about them.
	We're talking about them.
	But I don't see how we're actually going to be protected from this kind of censorship come 2024.
	No, the misinformation or malinformation industrial complex is very much alive and well, and we need to understand it as such.
	You know, the terms misinformation and malinformation weren't really around before 2016.
	It was Donald Trump's election that really propelled what are actually Soviet terms for Soviet propaganda.
	These are terms the Soviet Union came up with.
	There's a whole ecosystem of national security scholars and consultants that are tied up in these different centers that are housed at universities, that there's a revolving door between the intelligence agencies and these centers housed at universities, and that's all Intact.
	Okay, that's all alive and well.
	Now, one big difference is that Elon Musk owns Twitter now.
	And so they're less able to sort of strong arm Twitter, not entirely unable to strong arm them.
	But we need to sort of expect that the kind of misinformation and malinformation operations, psychological and propaganda operations that we saw in 2020, Are going to be part of the 2024 election cycle until something profound changes.
	This is just part of our political economy now.
	And it's going to be until there's some major structural changes that take place because there's too many people invested in throttling free speech on the Internet and preventing something like a Donald Trump victory from ever happening again.
	That's the purpose of all this.
	Yeah.
	John, where can people go to follow you just so we get that?
	You can follow me on Twitter at John D. Davidson, where I was banned for over a year for saying that Rachel Levin is a man.
	That was under the old Twitter misinformation, right?
	But now I'm back.
	For now.
	You're back.
	Thanks so much for being here.
	This is all connected, right?
	The abortion issue, the feminism issue.
	If we don't have the right to talk about it on social media, which is what the authoritarians are doing, we're going to lose every election.
	We're going to lose it on every level.
	So this is super important, John.

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