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EPISODE 598: AUDREY HALE'S MANIFESTO UNLEASHED, MIGRANT CRISIS INTENSIFIES AT BORDER

On today’s episode of Human Events Daily, guest host Darren Beattie delves into the leaked pages of the Nashville Shooter's manifesto, shedding light on the chilling details behind the tragic incident. Joining him is the insightful Redhead Libertarian to discuss the ongoing migrant crisis and its far-reaching implications.In this information-packed episode, Mike Benz joins Darren to break down the legal battle between Missouri and President Biden, offering unique perspectives on the state's c...

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Deliver us from evil!
Nobody feels good about the way things are going in America.
I don't even think Democrats do.
And the premise for most Republicans running against Trump in that primary was, well, you can't beat Joe, we can.
And with polls like this, that blows that argument out of the water.
This is probably going to lead to a lot of Democrats increasing the chatter that Joe Biden should step aside and make room for another Democrat.
And I think the problem that Democrats have is they don't know who that Democrat would be.
In a remarkable sign of a gradual racial realignment between the two parties, the more diverse the swing state, the farther Mr. Biden was behind.
And he led only in the whitest of six.
While Ukrainian President Zelensky is still deeply committed to the fight, some of his advisors are worried.
One of Zelensky's aides telling Time, he deludes himself.
We're out of options.
We're not winning.
But try telling him that.
Gaza is probably the biggest terror complex in the world.
This is what we're up against and we have to uproot it.
Because if we do not, they will strike again and again.
And they're saying it publicly.
Jewish students at UMass Amherst are on edge after a fellow student is arrested for assaulting a Jew on campus.
The school confirming the incident saying quote, an individual approached participants and made aggressive and rude gestures.
Later this person returned, assaulted a student who was holding an Israeli flag and proceeded to steal Thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters raged in Washington, D.C., before descending on the White House, smearing the gates with red paint.
They estimated at one point the crowd in Washington was 100,000 strong.
I think you can see from Director Wray's response, he knows what we can all plainly see with our eyes, that we are less safe today.
America is less secure.
Americans traveling abroad are now being asked to come home from multiple countries.
We have millions of people who have infiltrated across our southern border.
Goodness gracious, they've now been here for a couple of years.
That's about the same length of time that Hamas took to plan what they did on October 7th.
Good afternoon, everybody.
I am Darren Beattie, filling in for the great Jack Posobiec.
The long-awaited collab between Revolver News and Human Events is here, ladies and gentlemen, on this day of November 6, 2023.
We have an action-packed and insight-packed show for you today.
Lots of interesting things to discuss.
We're discussing the situation on the border.
We're getting a deep dive into the censorship industrial complex, Biden's dilemma, and much more.
But first I'd like to open with some breaking and really fascinating news.
Story coming out from Louder with Crowder.
Steve Crowder has seemingly managed to obtain pages from the covered up manifesto of the transsexual school shooter.
As you might remember, big story in March.
There was a tragic shooting at Covenant School and for the longest time the police department had covered up the manifesto, which is bizarre.
Usually this would never happen.
Unless the information and the contents within the manifesto was politically inconvenient to the regime or to the police department or something else.
So this is a very big deal and very interesting.
Based on what we've seen so far from some of the pages that come out, there have been some fascinating and rather telling quotations.
I'll just share some of them with you to the extent that I can because some of it's quite graphic and explicit.
Hale, the name of the transsexual shooter, referred to the day as a death day and said, can't believe I'm doing this.
I hope my victims aren't ready.
I hope I have a high death count.
Kill those kids.
Quote, going to a fancy private school with those khaki, fancy khakis and sports backpacks with their daddies and Mustangs.
Want to kill all you little crackers.
Bunch of little censored with your white privileges.
Interesting.
The awkward grammatical form of white privileges.
So it speaks to the IQ of this individual.
Maybe diminished by hormone intake.
Who knows?
I might be 10 minutes tops.
It might be 3 to 7.
It's going to go quick.
And so on.
And so what's interesting from this narratively is that a lot of people would expect, given that it was a transsexual shooter at a Christian school, this would have had a religious motivation.
But it looks like it's just plain old anti-white kill whitey rhetoric, which is quite fascinating.
So we can get into this more.
As I mentioned, we have some fantastic guests.
We're going to cover the open borders migrant caravan crisis going on with our guest, Redhead Libertarian, and we're going to do a deep dive into the truth about the censorship industrial complex, the real story about the architecture of censorship in the United States, all coming up with Mike Benz, Redhead Libertarian.
I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Kosobiak.
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I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Posobiec.
This is the Revolver News-Human Events collab you've all been waiting for.
We've got a great guest, Redhead Libertarian, coming right up to talk about the border crisis and the migrant crisis.
But first, a bit of information I wasn't able to convey at the opening, and this is Biden's numbers are dismal.
Trump's numbers are giving the regime increased anxiety.
A major poll just came out from New York Times basically indicating that Trump's massive lead is still more massive.
And this includes his lead in swing states.
And in fact, in paying attention to the news, key Democrat strategists such as David Axelrod and a person who is effectively a Democrat strategist, albeit a horrible one, Bill Kristol, have both come out in a state of increased agitation and concern, saying Biden the senescent Must drop out.
They understand this is a crisis point.
And to exacerbate Biden's dilemma, you have collapsing support in the Muslim community due to an inherent dilemma that he has that the Democrat Party's power is split between an establishment that's probably more favorable toward Israel, but an increasingly vocal and powerful and energetic left base that is pro-Palestine.
No matter what Biden does, he's in trouble, it seems like.
And we just got a glimpse of some of the energy behind the pro-Palestinian side yesterday with pretty raucous protests going on right outside of the White House.
You can only imagine what would happen if those people were wearing Trump hats, but I guess they're pro-Palestinian, so it doesn't matter.
But this really underscores the trouble that Biden's had.
It underscores the increased global phenomenon of this kind of decolonial alliance taking place.
taking place that encompasses the protests.
And it seems to be only getting worse with the open border situation, which is absolutely out of control in a historic scale under Biden.
So here to tell us more about the open borders disaster, and in particular, new migrant caravans coming in, we have our first guest, Redhead Libertarian.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Tell us what's going on at the border.
Hi, Darren.
Thank you so much for having me.
Well, we're experiencing an immigration crisis down there like we've never seen before.
I believe it's been 8 million migrants let into the United States since Joe Biden took over.
And as Senator Kennedy said, that's four Nebraska's.
That's four states.
The federal government's refusal to stop the invasion at Eagle Pass is a violation of the Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S.
Constitution, which says that the federal government's Job to protect states from invasion, and there's been an invasion declared down there, but they're not doing it.
So personally, I'd like to see Ken Paxton add another W to his 77% win record against the Biden regime and get them to do something about this.
I know he recently got an order to make them stop cutting the razor wire, so I guess that'd be interesting to see where this goes.
Indeed.
No, it's really remarkable.
And I think over 2 million people have been arrested at the border, which gives an indication of how many people are actually coming in under Biden.
And it's always been a bad situation, but it seems to be historic at this point in terms of the catastrophe.
Do you have any insight or idea as to Why Biden has been so aggressive in his neglect, shall we say, of the border situation, and whether there's anything realistic that we can do in order to stop this and ultimately curtail the negative effects of what's going on at the border?
Is there anything practical that, say, an elected official on our side could do in order to address this?
Well, there are asylum laws in place that just aren't being enforced.
So if they would just enforce these asylum laws, that would take care of a lot of the disaster down there.
Have people come and say they want asylum, and if they don't fit asylum, you know, speedy trial, America, get them out of here.
They don't need to stay here.
And most of these asylum claims, from what I'm reading, aren't even, they aren't coming from countries that need asylum, they're walking through And they're walking through five countries that they could easily stay in just to get to America.
But going back to what you had said earlier, there was a report a few years ago, I believe it was 2018, from the Border Patrol, saying that about one third of the children that make it to the border there are there without somebody who is their parent, which is alarming, whether it's trafficking, whether it's Anything.
I mean, it's just the idea that one third of the children that are showing up don't have a parent.
We don't know if their parents are sending them.
We don't know if they're being trafficked there because they've heard that it's easier to get in with a child.
We don't know.
But I know that they're losing children.
I believe there was an expose by the New York Times recently that said they lost like 100,000 children since this whole crisis started.
And some of these children are turning up in factories in America.
So I guess this is just something to watch for and kind of see how it unfolds.
And I believe that the idea is to change the entire fabric of our country and just make it not look like our country anymore.
Why would anybody want to come here if we also look like a third world country?
No, it's really troubling.
And in fact, as somebody who's studied the news, I can tell you, people don't want to hear this.
People are so depressed about the situation at the border because it seems like there's no real will or capability to fundamentally address the issue of open borders.
And you saw an example of this kind of internal thinking in a recent prank call to Italian politician Maloney where she basically admitted like there's no will there's no way to do it It's basically over to imagine what would actually be required to stem the effects let alone reverse the effects is It's quite remarkable and also you're right about the children You know, it's worse.
The cartel's revenue model used to be based primarily on the drug trade, and now it's on the person trade, which is far more profitable.
And what I think a lot of people don't understand is the situation on the border is really not just people from Latin America coming in anymore.
It's literally everyone from all over the world.
If you watch some of the footage that's out there, people crossing the Darien Gap.
It's a United Nations situation.
People from countries you couldn't even imagine, including very dangerous countries, are coming in en masse.
There's no checks, no vetting whatsoever.
It's hard to imagine how this could be sustainable.
Do you have any idea of what the ultimate agenda is here?
What's the end point?
Is this just Biden's incompetence or is there a larger agenda at play, a larger goal that the regime is aiming toward in this de facto policy of no borders?
Well, the whole goal is a great reset.
I mean, they wrote the book about it and published it and put it in our face.
So we're going to need to get to a point in order to reset We need to get rid of our current situation.
We need to get rid of the current status quo.
And they need to have people begging to reset.
Like, please just make this stop.
And then they're going to offer the solution, which is the Great Reset.
So that's my idea, even if I sound crazy to talk about this.
Well, it's quite remarkable.
You know, people talk about the Great Reset, and there's also the Great Replacement, because this is a massive demographic replacement of a population.
And a former government official once told me it had a very fascinating but troubling thought experiment that I remember to this day.
He said, you know, there's the pantheon of great dictatorial villains that would include Mao and other people like this, but even somebody like Mao or somebody like Stalin, both of whom responsible for tens of millions of deaths,
Even these ultimate villains, if you, if somebody had gone up to say Mao and suggested why don't we open the borders of China and allow massive immigration from the third world to the point that inevitably the Chinese population itself will be replaced in a matter of a half a century to a full century and any Chinese person who objects to this transformation
will be called racist and have their livelihoods and jobs ruined, if not worse.
Now would look in that person's face and say, that is the most evil and ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
And yet, uniquely, this seems to be an agenda promulgated in the West.
It is really hard to wrap your heads around your thoughts on that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm at the point where, as a libertarian, we're non-interventionists.
But when it comes to our borders, that's where we're strong.
We're not a nation without our borders.
Our military shouldn't be going overseas to the Middle East, to Yemen, to Libya, to Iran, Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Israel, Ukraine.
It shouldn't be going anywhere over there.
It should be defending our borders.
If you want to stop this, you need the military at the border, and that's going to stop it.
You're so right.
And it's a system.
The open borders doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Our interventionist foreign policy, our clumsy foreign policy, for instance, Hillary Clinton's State Department did a remarkable job at creating millions of refugees.
And then they have to resettle them.
And so it's what one commentator once memorably described as an invade the world, invite the world policy.
It's a vicious kind of revolving door type system where our idiotic and evil and corrupt foreign policy creates the refugees and our idiotic, evil and corrupt immigration policy resettles them in the interior to the complete displacement of our native populations.
Absolutely, I agree with that.
I agree with that, and that's what we're seeing happen before our eyes.
It's a terrible situation.
Tell the audience, where can they go to find out more about your work and more about this situation in particular?
Absolutely.
I am the Red-Headed Libertarian.
You can find me on s.com, T-R-H is my official.
You can also go over to tss.com and become a T-R-H member.
You talk about influences.
These are influences.
And they're friends of mine, Jack Rusovic.
Where's Jack?
Jack.
He's done a great job.
I'm Darren Beattie.
We're back.
This is Human Events.
I'm filling in for Jack Posobiec who is on assignment and we're here having a great conversation today with Redhead Libertarian on the catastrophic situation on our nation's border.
Absolute hordes coming in.
Millions and millions of people throughout the entire year.
Seemingly an unsustainable issue, unsustainable thing to transpire.
Biden's poll numbers seem to be collapsing.
Trump's poll numbers are much stronger.
We've talked about the crisis itself, but now I think we should address the meta issue of how does this border crisis, if at all, play into the 2024 calculus, and how does it affect Biden's prospects going forward?
Yeah, this migration crisis is not popular.
And places where Biden had a stronghold, like cities, for instance, a lot of the migrants are being replaced there.
And they're not liking it.
The people in the cities are coming out against it.
Like Chicago, for instance, they had a meeting and they said, we can't take any more, you know, and it was black.
It was a group of black people.
And they were like, we already get the scraps and they're going to get the scraps of our scraps.
So.
This is not sustainable.
Yeah, it is very interesting to see.
I think a lot of members of the audience might have seen clips of erstwhile luxury hotels in New York City basically transforming into tent camps in order to accommodate the absolutely massive number of people poured in from the border.
And this sort of, this is the complication.
It's interesting that you say that is that it only becomes a problem when the clients of the democrats themselves are directly inconvenienced it's not an issue of okay
simply the fact that we're destroying the country destroying the value of citizenship dropping the value of citizenship into nothing just absolutely ravaging what little social cohesion remains in the nation by doing this But if you're a resident of New York City, if you're a resident in Chicago, You're not supposed to be inconvenienced by these policies.
They're supposed to be resettled into the interior of the United States where middle America is.
They're supposed to be resettled in Maine and such.
And so I wonder if you have any insight, why is Biden risking his own kind of political favor in future by resettling these migrants into cities?
Or are there simply so many that they can't dump them all in Maine anymore?
I'm wondering if it has to do with who's sending them there.
Maybe it's not the Biden administration.
Maybe it's Texas.
Maybe it's Florida.
Those governors sending these cities, because these cities were like, we are sanctuary cities.
And you come here, we accept you.
But you know, Carter DeSantis, my governor, sent them all up to Martha's Vineyard.
And I've never seen those residents more happy than when they sent those migrants away on buses.
So it was this virtue signaling and now it's been exposed as to exactly what it was.
No, it's very, very interesting and those photos and the footage of, I think in particular, the Roosevelt Hotel and some other hotels in New York City, absolute pandemonium, looked like a third world tent camp.
Actually, you know, the biggest insult is to say it looks like San Francisco.
The Roosevelt Hotel in New York looked like San Francisco and that's a result of this bizarre Migrant resettling issue.
Do you have any insight as to the people profiting from this?
Are the usual suspects like the Catholic Charities groups?
We did a piece at revolver.news on the Lutheran organizations that receive money in order to resettle various, this is refugees in particular, but I imagine there are groups that are similarly responsible for settling these immigrants.
Do you have any knowledge or insight on that?
Not really.
I do know that it's NGOs that are doing it primarily, and they do line their own pockets with whatever money they get from the state that helps them do that, or from charitable people who help them do that.
And it's just not a sustainable thing to be happening right now.
But there's a large transfer of wealth from 2020, and we're just seeing that extend in different ways through different crises ever since.
Indeed, indeed.
And at the beginning of the segment, I mentioned a possible tie-in between the open border situation generally and some of the flare-ups we've seen in terms of pro-Palestine protests in the United States and Washington D.C.
There was a big one Do you think it's fair to draw a connection between the open borders policy and the general kind of third world decolonialization ideology that seems to be driving a lot of these recent protests pertaining to the Mideast situation in Gaza?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
They're here and they wave their flags.
I mean, We're getting everyone from all over the world.
We're not just getting people from South America.
They're coming from everywhere.
I'm not sure who's bringing them here on boats, but they're coming from Africa.
You know, they're coming from everywhere.
So that's driving it because they still come and they still have their country pride.
You know, they're still waving their country flag.
They're not here to assimilate to the American values.
They're here to bring their culture and spread their culture and spread their their values or their lack of values for that matter.
I mean, we've seen it, we see who's hacking people.
It's all pretty clear.
And we need to be able to speak about it freely. - Indeed.
And it is interesting and ironic in some ways because you have a lot of people in the United States who are now coming out and expressing consternation, expressing outrage, expressing concern regarding all of these protests that are not only pro-Palestinian but in some ways more directly inflected pro-Hamas.
It's very frustrating in a way to see people finally express concern about this who had either never expressed any concern about open borders policies And if anything, many cases have kind of looked down with condescension on anyone who would draw attention to the issue of the border.
And now it's quite clear, or at least I would suggest it is, I'm curious as to your thoughts, that for anybody who is concerned with the pro-Palestine protests, for anybody who is concerned with a decreased support for Israel, as many donors have written to Harvard expressing concern about pro-Palestinian protests.
Is it the case that the two things go hand in hand?
The more the United States invites the third world, the more you are going to see this transformation in sympathies toward causes like Palestinian cause and other sort of globalized decolonialization movements.
I have a theory.
So there's really no presidents that get two terms without a popular war.
I mean, the way that it is.
Donald Trump didn't start any wars, didn't have a second term.
George Bush finished a war, didn't have a second.
So the Ukraine war was not popular.
That was largely not popular.
But the Israel war Is popular and whether they didn't start it, but you know, they're sitting in the Mediterranean right now.
It's thinking about, you know, whatever they're going to do there.
We don't know yet.
Um, so, so there's a popular war now.
Also on top of this, we have migrants who are pro-Hamas coming in through the border.
That's another crisis.
So we're seeing the reaction to this popular war, this pro-Israel popular war.
To be like, we need to expel Palestinians and to see them finally looking at Harvard and the Marxists there and saying, okay, this is not good anymore.
And so they're looking at a way to fix all the things that are wrong with our country using Israel kind of has the powder keg for getting the pro-Hamas people out of here, for kind of returning it to more of a status quo that people liked, people were happy with.
And becoming more popular and more powerful in that regard to hopefully get Biden a second term or at least get some Democrat elected to the second term because nobody's been thrilled with what the Democrats have done to this country.
No, it's a very interesting hypothesis and it's, you know, it's complicated precisely because of this tension within the Democrat Party of, you know, a lot of the establishment elements that are certainly sympathetic to Israel, that remain sympathetic to Israel, and the sort of energetic, increasingly energetic base which takes the other side.
So, if this is part of the agenda of the Biden administration, it might blow back in their face because It's kind of hard to see how an intensification of this conflict would actually help Biden given, first of all, his poll numbers with Muslims, but more so given the inherent tension and split on this issue within the Democrat coalition in particular.
Yeah, this could blow back and hit him in the face.
I think so.
There's a chance of that happening.
Yes, as always.
I've always thought they were going to replace him with Gavin Newsom, eventually anyway.
But we're going to see, as the election approaches, things happen that are good, that everybody wants to see.
We'll see a drop in inflation.
It'll be artificial, but we'll see it.
We'll see interest rates artificial, but we'll see it.
We'll see them do something about the border.
It's more pro-Israel.
We're here to support our greatest ally.
Don't forget, most importantly, we're going to see concert ticket prices decline.
The Biden White House was very pleased with that.
So we've got a lot of things.
Thank you so much.
Tell the audience again where they can find you, where they can read more about this important topic.
Absolutely.
You can find me on X.com.
Stop buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.
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Hello everyone, good afternoon.
I'm Darren Beattie filling in for the great Jack Posobiec of Human Events.
This is the long-anticipated Revolver Human Events collab.
We've got some great stuff coming up for you.
Now we want to discuss censorship.
One of the major issues, I used to say the major issue, but now I think the major issue is The regime has gone beyond censorship and now simply throws people in prison or indicts them for doing things that it doesn't like.
But censorship is still very much an important issue.
And the good news is we have actually made great progress in terms of striking back against what some, including my next guest, would call the censorship industrial complex.
And in fact, there's a very important case Missouri v. Biden that's actually going to come up before the Supreme Court that pertains precisely to government organizations putting pressure on big tech companies to censor things.
And so it has all sorts of really significant First Amendment implications.
Significant implications in terms of how the censorship regime operates.
There's nobody in the country, I think it's safe to say, who understands more intricately and profoundly how censorship works in all of its manifestations than my next guest, Mike Benz, who's a former State Department official and currently the head of the Foundation for Freedom Online, which is at the cutting edge of all of this.
Mike, thanks so much for coming on.
Thank you, Darren, for all the work you're doing as well.
So tell us a little bit about Missouri v. Biden in particular and how it relates to the broader sort of censorship space and recent developments in that space.
Yeah, so it's easiest to understand Missouri v. Biden as essentially being a case of government censorship laundering.
So in the same way that money laundering operates by concealing an illicit source of funds, You have all this private sector censorship that is happening essentially through the government laundering censorship but concealing its government source.
So there's government funding of censorship institutions, there's government coordination on censorship policies, there's government creation of private sector censorship cutouts, and there's government outsourcing of censorship dirty work.
And Missouri v. Biden basically seeks to expose all of these sources of government censorship laundering through cutouts in the universities and in the NGOs and through how government works with private sector companies.
Now, the plaintiffs, the Missouri State Attorney General and Louisiana State Attorney General's offices, are making the sweeping claim that all of those forms of censorship laundering essentially are First Amendment violations.
They're absolutely correct on that.
There was a grand slam indictment of the federal government in a July 4th ruling at the trial court level several months ago.
It was partially upheld on appeal.
There was some good stuff and bad stuff about the appeal, but now it is before the Supreme Court and we will really have the moment that will set where the chess pieces are on everything from the legislative front to the state government front.
with a final say, at least at the early stage of the case, now to determine whether the government can operate through cutouts in order to outsource what they can't do themselves.
Yeah, that's such an interesting point.
And I think there's been an evolution how people have thought about the censorship issue I think, originally, many people thought, okay, the censorship is primarily driven from within these big tech companies, which is true to an extent, but I think part of what's revealed through Missouri v. Biden, revealed through your work exposing these DHS-linked organizations, is that
Well, yes, there are many sympathetic people to censorship within the tech companies.
A lot of the pressure was actually coming from the government.
But it was doing so to some degree, not exclusively, but to some degree and a substantial degree through these kind of cut out organizations where they effectively outsourced their violations against the First Amendment.
Let's say we get a favorable ruling in Missouri v. Biden, and that is to say that, you know, the government itself needs to step away far more than it's been doing.
How do you see this affecting the development of the censorship industry?
Because, you know, an analogy we might draw would be affirmative action.
The regime depends on affirmative action.
Affirmative action impinges on every single institution in the country, how it functions from a legal perspective, economic perspective.
And so, while we can celebrate a Supreme Court ruling that curtails affirmative action, we can also reasonably anticipate that the regime will find some other way to achieve the ends that it already wants.
And so, since you're on the cutting edge of this, I'd be very curious What is the next move from the standpoint of our regime's commissars in response to the threat of Missouri v. Biden and the generalized threat of catching them red-handed in direct censorship activities?
Right.
Well, that's a great analogy, actually, there, because just as with the censorship industry, with DEI, there were also not just sort of the individual policies of universities or corporations, But there was also, there grew this vast sort of cottage industry of DEI service providers.
These were folks like your sort of diversity, equity and inclusion consultants or credentialists who would essentially tell schools or tell public universities or private corporations whether or not they've satisfied various DEI requirements or that service intermediaries are getting state government contracts or federal government contracts So there's this vast blob in the middle in DEI contracting and service providing.
And so, too, there is now in the censorship industry.
So from 2018 to 2022, much of government censorship was essentially top down in terms of pressure and funding from government into what they called a whole of society model that entwined the government with the private sector, civil society organizations, and then allies in the news media and fact-checking orgs.
But a lot of this depended on the government serving a quarterback function, where they were coordinating what the NGOs and the universities were doing.
They were giving them funding.
They were coordinating with the fact-checkers and giving them funding.
They were putting direct pressure on the private sector companies.
They were acting as the quarterback there.
The way the censorship industry is currently being restructured in anticipation of a devastating Missouri v.
Biden ruling is to do a sort of middle-out restructuring, whereas instead of having things run out of CISA at the DHS or the State Department's Global Engagement Center, it would be run out of what they're calling a middleware company, a censorship service it would be run out of what they're calling a middleware company, a censorship service provider who sits in the middle between the user and the platform, a censorship service provider, which is not a term, but is intermediated by
And major government figures who inform that middleware censorship companies' policies and filtering mechanisms.
So NewsGuard is an example of this.
NewsGuard, of course, has Rick Stengel on its board, who ran the Global Engagement Center at the State Department, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who was the head of NATO for five years in the Obama administration, Tom Ridge, the former head of DHS, and General Michael V. Hayden, who was a former four-star general, head of the NSA, and head of the CIA.
So that's who's in control essentially of the middleware censorship provider who is now also doing censorship compliance for this new European Digital Services Act.
They're trying to get congressional regulations to mandate middleware so that it looks like it's coming from the private sector when indeed it's again being intermediated by these intelligence cutouts.
Very interesting and we'll get into that more after the break and maybe name names and get into some of the more nefarious and frankly some in some cases ridiculous some cases both actors in this space but indeed NewsGuard and these other sort of middleware companies seem like a sort of freelance version of HR you know the
Compliance lady for hire, as it were, that for some reason, I mean, it astonishes me that this business model works, but it just shows how companies and organizations, institutions just feel compelled to follow these best censorship practices when in fact they might not need to do so.
You have any idea on how, you know, how the business model works?
We're running out of time for this segment, so we'll get into that later.
Talk about NewsGuard, talk about some of the true scumbags in this space, and there are many.
Rene, you're one of them, but there are many.
We'll talk about the scumbags when we get on, and then talk about maybe some of the broader connotations of what's the geopolitics of censorship.
That's coming up.
We've got Mike Benz, much more.
I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Posobiec.
We'll see you very shortly after the break.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Welcome back.
I'm Darren Beattie, filling in for Jack Posobiec.
We're having a fascinating conversation with the one and only Mike Benz on the censorship industry.
Before the break, an organization called NewsGuard was briefly mentioned.
Now, Revolver.News did a major piece on NewsGuard quite some time ago, and for those in the audience who don't understand what this is, I mean, there are a lot of ridiculous things going on in the censorship world, but NewsGuard is Pretty remarkable even by censorship standards.
This is an organization that's basically a company and for a small fee, in fact it's probably not that small, they will give you the privilege of censoring information for you effectively or using their judgment to tell you whether something is acceptable or not You know, appropriating this kind of weird health analogy of giving things nutrition labels.
This information is good.
It's yummy.
This information is apple.
Oh, something is supporting open borders.
This is yummy.
If something is naughty, this is no good.
That's bad nutrition.
That's junk food.
You're not allowed to eat that, little boy.
That's effectively what they're saying with these nutrition labels.
So just the idea of a company that would have the chutzpah to basically say, you pay me and I can tell you what information is suitable for you to consume is pretty remarkable.
But it gets even crazier when you look at the people whose judgment you would actually be paying for in terms of being able to censor what you see.
And Mike mentioned some of these.
There's Michael Hayden, who is a notorious scumbag.
This is the guy who led the NSA under its notorious and illegal spying activities exposed by Edward Snowden, which I believe he basically lied about.
So you're having some of the top liars and crooks in the country, Michael Hayden, Rick Stengel, who is a self-described propagandist for the Biden regime and the Global Engagement Center, a who's who of censorious, discredited, and disgraced scumbags. a who's who of censorious, discredited, and disgraced scumbags.
And these are the people That you for a small p can have tell you what information you're allowed to consume and what you're not allowed to consume is quite amazing.
And so it's hard to imagine how this business model is sustainable.
Mike, tell us a little bit more about some of the planning you discovered behind the scenes on how they're going to force this ridiculous business model down our throats.
Right.
So there's a few ways they're looking at it.
So you'd mentioned in the previous segment a figure out of the Stanford Airnet Observatory named Renee DiResta, who began her career in the Central Intelligence Agency.
She did a talk in 2021 with her fellow censorship heavyweight, Kate Starbird, who runs the University of Washington, essentially the Bill Gates University Censorship Lab, and Francis Fukuyama, The sort of notorious end-of-history theoretician about how to create a competitive middleware space.
That is, how to pump up the revenues of companies like NewsGuard and create a bunch of different NewsGuard-type spin-off companies.
And in their hour-and-a-half talk planning how to build out a commercial industry around this, They all agreed that it wouldn't be able to survive commercially on its own because no market exists for it.
So they contemplated two different ways to pay for it.
One of them would be to have a congressional mandate so that rather than having the government compel censorship, which would be a violation of the First Amendment, The government could instead compel companies of a certain size like Twitter or Facebook or YouTube to adopt middleware disinformation compliance services like
One of a menu of NewsGuard type companies, and so it would lock in a commercial market so that even if those companies didn't want their services, they would be forced to under some sort of FTC regulation.
If they wanted to have their license to operate as a large social media platform, they would need a disinformation compliance service like NewsGuard.
Another way is if they contemplated would be to have the tech companies Right.
for it themselves if they could be sufficiently pressured, coerced, or crisis induced through essentially crisis PR to have the companies pay out of a corporate social responsibility budget, essentially a kind of donation to these companies.
So basically they know the free market wouldn't allow a censorship mercenary company.
So they're compelling it.
And these are again, intelligence figures who are driving this fake free market.
So, this is effectively an ESG for censorship, is what they're anticipating in terms of getting the tech companies to cover it.
It's pretty remarkable, and I think many people listening to this simply don't understand how disturbing, but also how stupid and ridiculous this is.
This woman, Renee DiResta, yeah, she was CIA, she was all this, but She cut her teeth as part of an organization that made a big deal out of Russian interference.
The Russia, Russia, Russia.
And it turns out the organization that she was affiliated with actually itself created fake Russian bots and then had those bots support a candidate they didn't like whom they then turned to say that person is a Russian agent candidate And then on top of that said, well, this is evidence of the Russia problem that of course justifies future funding for their operations.
When she was caught red-handed doing that, she got involved with all the things that you've been reporting on, the Election Integrity Partnership.
They did a long study.
I've seen this in universities, them doing lectures on how Some revolver news stories that you know something about.
The color revolution stories and how they developed.
They did a whole like mock-up on how this works.
And of course now that that's been exposed, you know, the thing about these people, they're mediocrities who can never experience career death.
It's really incredible to see these mediocrities fail from one fake job to the next and it's part of the frustrating thing is you think you get them in one place and they pop up in another place and now her latest script is forcing institutions effectively to pay for the privilege of having
Their censorship decisions decided for them by the likes of Michael Hayden, Rick Stangle, and other disgraced scumbags.
So, that's the story.
Your work is fantastic.
You're doing cutting-edge stuff at Foundation for Freedom Online.
Tell the audience where they can read more about this and pieces you have coming up and how they can follow you and what you're up to.
Sure, well thanks.
It's a great job if you can get it, the gig that Rene has.
But you can follow me online at MikeBendCyber on X, FoundationForFreedomOnline.com, and look forward to talking to you soon.
Awesome, thank you so much.
Well, that's a wrap for us today.
I'm Darren Beattie, filling in for Jack Posobiec in the Human Events Revolver News Collab.
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