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Today is October 20th, 2023.
Anno Domini.
President Biden has announced a two-front world conflict, a two-front world crisis that we are hurtling towards.
And I've seen so many people on the right right now Completely going along with it.
Because you've got people that are just absolutely, and conservatives by the way, conservatives, right-wing media personalities, just going all in for war with Iran.
They want Iran to go and have the United States in full conflict.
FULL CONFLICT with Iran!
They're lusty.
I would say they're actually lusting for this.
Folks, Did you even pay attention to what just happened in Afghanistan?
Where we lost after 20 years?
Have you paid attention to what's going on in Ukraine right now?
Where the Ukrainian counter-offensive has gone so badly that the ex-spokesman of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is now de-transitioning back to a man.
That's how bad the counter-offensive has gone.
And by the way, don't ask about the President of Afghanistan.
Joe Biden is the one who asked that.
So let's just go start the next war.
Let's forget about that stuff.
Let's start the next war.
So the guy who's locking up political dissidents here at home, the guy who's locking up his political opposition, you've got a judge, by the way, right now in New York City, saying that he wants to lock Trump up because of a post that he made before he put the gag order on.
Doesn't care.
Doesn't care.
You've got this completely insane judge in D.C. threatening today to lock President Trump up.
And then you have Biden saying, oh, well, we need to we need to work on our divisions.
We are announcing a war against hate.
Cut me a break.
You are the ones running this regime.
You are the ones running this country into the ground, and you are the ones, I don't care if you're on the far left, I don't care if you're the neocons, I don't care if you're the never-Trumpers, we are going to take every single, Ron DeSantis, Ron DeSantis decided to lie and smear Donald Trump as a Hezbollah supporter.
He's now single digits.
Bold strategy, Ron.
Maybe you should listen to the voters of your state and actually do the job they elected you to, sir.
Maybe people should know their role.
Know your role.
Folks, there's a way out of this.
There is another option, and that's putting Donald J. Trump back in the Oval Office and bringing back MAGA WORLD PEACE!
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So Rich, you and I have been locked in this sort of, you know, debate with a lot of people across, I would say the political right, this question of whether, you know, what is the role of RFK?
Does RFK play a spoiler role for Trump or does he play a spoiler role for Biden?
Now what's interesting is that I've said that he's a spoiler against Trump, that he helps Biden.
You've said that he helps Biden.
RFK himself has said that he likely helps Biden.
And now we've got this NPR-Marist poll, which I agree might be a little bit over-exaggerated, but the trend that it's showing is that RFK helps Biden and throws the race to Trump.
Rich, what's going on and why are people still in contention over this?
I think people are looking at this and oh, and of course, Jack, thanks for having me as always.
But I think people are looking at this too simply.
I really do.
It's easy as a pollster to mess up because you can, in the case of the Marist poll, have too many educated, which are likely to be Biden voters.
I mean, that electorate in the Marist polls, like D plus 7, that's outrageous.
That hasn't happened since Obama ran against John McCain.
That's never going to happen going into 2024.
So that's why it exaggerates not only Biden's lead, but how much RFK is pulling because it leaves Trump with a disproportionate Disproportionately low share of non-college voters to try to fight with RFK over.
And ultimately, just because RFK is a Democrat, does not mean voters see him as a Democrat.
And people are looking, he's got that last name, right?
They're thinking old kind of, you know, old style Democrat.
Democratic voters who are Biden voters are educated voters.
That's just the way that it is now.
And he doesn't have any educated vote.
He's not pulling away working class people that would have otherwise voted for Joe Biden.
He's pulling away working class people who, when he's not in the race, go for Donald Trump.
So you can't just look at how many Democrats he pulls away or, you know, whatever it may be.
That we hear everyone else talk about.
He has no... Well, because, Rich, there's people saying, there's people saying, oh, well, a Trump voter is never going to switch to an RFK voter.
That's not going to happen.
Trump's voters love Trump.
I say, OK, number one, you've got a lot of people that don't necessarily view themselves as Trump voters anymore.
You've got a lot of people in what?
The medical freedom movement.
And because President Trump was at the head of Operation Warp Speed, a lot of these people will say, Well, I don't want to go in for Trump.
I like RFK.
There's a lot of people I know who listen to this show, that listen to this network, that are in that category.
These are people that aren't traditional Republicans.
They're in the middle.
This is who Trump speaks to in a, or excuse me, RFK speaks to in a big way.
And I think that people are kind of missing the analysis when it comes to, we're not talking about your diehard Trump voters.
We're talking about Trump's ability to build out into the middle.
This is one of the things that, in this case, it's working against Trump with RFK and the ballot, but it has always been one of Trump's strongest elements about him as a candidate.
He doesn't just have his core support.
He also has the ability to win other people who may not like him particularly, but just think that he does good at the job and is the better choice than a Democrat.
Trump voters, Jack, we're talking about like 40%.
Let's just say it could be a little more, it could be a little less, but let's talk about core Trump vote.
Is around 40%.
But Trump could do better than that, because there are people who otherwise will still vote for him, even if they don't particularly like him or agree with him on all the issues.
They still see him as competent, they see him as a strong leader, and they see him as good on the economy.
It's the voter, to get real specific, it's the voter who tells us they're an independent.
And when we ask them if they lean more to the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, maybe they lean equally to both, or not at all, neither of them.
He gets hurt with RFK in the ballot among the biggest group, by the way, that's persuadable, which says I share little in common with either party.
And with Trump and Biden, Trump is beating Biden with that group by more than double digits, alright?
Not more than, he's beating them by double digits.
With RFK in the race, that lead falls to 3%.
And I will say this again, you know, preface all of that with the Marist poll is an outlier.
So, Trump is ahead.
I really have to put this out there.
Trump is ahead.
He's ahead with and without RFK on the ballot.
We did probably the deepest dive at any pollster yet on the different scenarios, whether it's hypothetical, head-to-head, with different candidates.
Right now, it does seem that his lead can weather RFK being on the ballot because he is ahead by that much.
But it turns a comfortable win into a nail-biter because think of your Joe Rogan voter.
Think of your Aaron Rodgers voter.
Charlie and I were talking about this.
That's who it is.
Otherwise, if it's just Biden and Trump, then they'll go for Trump.
But with another option like RFK in the race, they'll go for RFK.
Now, that could change.
And with a lot of the stuff that is coming out, I expect it probably will.
And it's also true that it's going to be incredibly difficult for RFK even to get on ballots in some of these states.
But as of right now, when we're looking at this, I hate to say it, Marist overstated Biden's support, but they are right about the impact of vote preference when it comes to different demographics.
Again, none of his support is Northeastern, Jack.
It's not liberal.
It's not educated.
It's working class, South, and Rust Belt.
Well, over-educated.
I don't want to say not educated.
But we know what Rich is talking about.
Right, right, right, right.
He's talking about that higher education, M.A.' 's, Ph.D.'s.
But Rich, let me ask you this as well, because it's very interesting.
People have said, oh, RFK's not doing this because he's running as a spoiler.
He's not running this.
RFK, just as Trump, and I know you've talked about this, you know, a lot of people say it's a pipe dream, but there's always been this push for Trump to get, you know, a sliver or a portion of the black vote over.
We know that he made a lot of plays towards this, and just as we've started to see movement there, what does RFK do?
RFK comes out in support of reparations.
Rich, do you think he's doing that by accident?
I don't.
And I think you should probably believe the words that come out of a person's own mouth.
All right?
So when he made the decision to run as an independent, what did he say, Jack?
And Zogby, his pollster, just released yet another poll showing that he hurts Trump.
All right?
In the head-to-head, Trump is up by a point.
With RFK in the race, Biden is up by a point.
So his own pollster is telling him this stuff.
So I actually think they're probably wrong about that when it comes to the reparation impact.
The black vote that we are seeing moving to Donald Trump right now is not really persuaded by that as much as they are other issues that are making them give Trump a second look, another look, or a fresh look altogether.
And I think that that is potentially a more left-wing vote.
I just don't think that they would abandon Biden for him.
I think it's a cynical play by him.
He miscalculated.
But it's still a cynical play.
And by the way, we just did this, put out a chart about this, whether that is real, that increase in the share of the non-white vote.
Folks, that's very real.
Very real.
So, you know, the fact they did this should really, it should tell you something.
It should be really illuminating, Jack.
I mean, what's next?
And this is what we're seeing, which we're seeing in your polls, we're seeing it in race to the White House, seeing it in so many others, that in some of these cases, they've got the swing states.
If it's just Trump and Biden, you've got Trump up or it's within a point one way, a point the other.
These things are razor thin.
And so when people say, oh, RFK, it's not going to be that big of a deal, I don't think you understand how close these elections are.
Last minute, Rich.
44,000 votes, Jack.
44,000 votes.
In 2016, more like 80.
But that's what it takes to win an election in this country.
Again, you know, it's possible, like I said before, he doesn't get on these ballots and it doesn't matter.
But if you're Biden and you come to the conclusion that he helps you instead of hurts you, Then you may get some big money people behind his effort to get 90,000 signatures in Georgia.
Georgia is very difficult to get on, but I know you love the Rust Belt poll, and we're going to have that really soon.
In fact, the one state where we see RFK hurt the worst in the Rust Belt when it comes to Donald Trump's support is the state of Pennsylvania.
So it turns, again, a very comfortable, you know, not super big, nobody's going to win Pennsylvania by eight points, but it turns a comfortable lead for Donald Trump into a nail biter.
And do you really, you know, is that something you want to see?
Listen to the guy from Pennsylvania, that's all I'm saying.
Listen to the guy from Pennsylvania.
I'm trying to tell you guys where this is coming.
We're not talking about the Bible Belt, we're not talking about the South, the Southeast, not even talking about the Northeast, New England here.
No, I'm talking about the Rust Belt.
Listen, I'm just saying, guys, I'm from Pennsylvania.
I know these voters.
I know my Commonwealth.
This is what we're looking at.
We've got a break coming up, more with Richard Varus.
He's going deep into the numbers with us because we know this primary is over, but the general election has already kicked off, and if you're not paying attention yet, you really need to be.
The first couple of votes in the 2024 election will be voted, will be cast in less than 90 days.
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Okay, we've got breaking news from actually when we were in the break.
The vote for Jim Jordan for Speaker has actually dropped Jim Jordan out of the race.
And it looks like the House GOP, if I'm reading this correctly, the House GOP has now voted to remove the Speaker-designee status for Jordan.
We know that Jordan has been bleeding support over these multiple series of votes.
Looks as though you have this moderate bloc that didn't want to go in with him.
Rich, I don't know what else really needs to be said about this that hasn't been said before.
This was more than likely as of last night we knew this was going to happen.
It has nothing to do with Jim Jordan.
It has to do with the fact that this is a proxy battle between the grassroots and the establishment.
I mean, the bottom line is this.
This morning when Jim Jordan went into the meeting, and I don't know why this isn't being reported more, but he said, look, let's sit down.
He gave them a great speech, you know, come together, you know, try to have a kumbaya moment.
And they basically, there's, you know, 22 no's, but really it's about eight that's directing it.
And they basically said, we don't want anything from you.
We want you to understand that what Matt Gaetz did, we're not accepting.
We're not moving the house in this direction that the base wants us to move in.
And you're never going to be Speaker.
That's what they told Jim Jordan this morning.
And I'm sure it'll be reported later today.
But those of us who have made phone calls know that's what happened.
So, Jim is doing, did everything in his power to try to make a consensus.
The establishment, the truth be told is this, Jack, most of the Republican conference in the House and Senate are posers.
They never run on funding Ukraine first.
They never run on bending over for the deep state.
They never run on, you know, working with Democrats to make sure that progressive agenda items keep moving, government keeps getting bigger, and the deficits keep getting larger, and the debt keeps getting to the point where it's not even, we're not even able to pay it back.
They never run on that.
They run as either conservative or MAGA, then they go to Washington, and they lie.
And they like to hide behind a broken system.
So single-subject spending bills, which Jim Jordan would not bend on, is a big problem for them because they like the ability to say, I couldn't vote against this because it's an omnibus.
I couldn't vote against that because we're not going to get everything we want in a continuing resolution.
We did the best we could.
This is as conservative as it gets.
They like that, Jack.
They're not really what they run on.
They don't believe that.
This isn't about principle.
This is about being corrupt and being cowardly and being stupid.
I'm sorry.
It's just the truth.
And the numbers in the House right now are not enough to get Republicans where they want to be.
They're never going to be representative with this caucus.
And it's as simple as that.
I don't know what else to add, Rich, because that's simply it.
That's the state of our caucus.
That is the state of where we are.
And again, there's not much in this that's going to change until Donald Trump is able to overcome all of the hurdles that have been put in front of him and is able to retain power in DC.
This is why you're seeing the establishment so entrenched right now because it's only through the vessel of Donald Trump's presidency.
That sounds silly.
I know it sounds silly, but what I'm trying to say is it's that, you know, this guy is the avatar of the grassroots.
He is sort of the proxy for grassroots power.
Sure.
in the country.
I'm not saying that Gates isn't, I'm not saying the other guys aren't there, but he's the fulcrum.
Okay.
He's the fulcrum for this.
Uh, whereas they are the fulcrum for the establishment power, for the U S chamber of commerce, for the other power nodes in this country, the moneyed interests in this country, the special interest in this country, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, defense industry.
Yeah.
Obviously over the last week, we were talking about all of those, you know, there's that great meme going around of it's, it's, um, Hamas shooting rockets at the iron dome, but they changed the, the, the caption of it.
One side says U S taxpayer dollars.
And the other side says somehow also U S taxpayer dollars.
that they're going to fund both sides.
Funny enough, it's like the Republicans are funding this side, that everybody else are funding this side.
And yet, you know, it's like, what's the line?
All wars are bankers' wars.
But Rich, what is it about Trump that actually causes these people to be so terrified?
Because at the end of the day, it's not about whether or not he posted something mean or it's about 10 years ago he said something to someone on a game show.
What is it really about, Rich?
The late, great Rush Limbaugh really said it best.
Also, others like Don King have said it great.
These people are professional liars.
They're professional posers.
And when Donald Trump is in the picture, he comes and he brings the heat.
Keeps his promises.
He delivers.
They can't hide anymore when Donald Trump is there and in the picture.
And that has always been their biggest problem with him.
They'll claim that they're for something, but they're not.
Donald Trump will go after that.
VA accountability is a great example.
They always claimed they were for VA accountability, Jack, but they couldn't.
With Donald Trump there, they had no choice but to vote with him and come along on it.
They never would have done that.
So many promises, Roe v. Wade, Anwar, you name it.
But when Donald Trump is there, he's gonna get it done.
He's gonna keep his promises and they hate him for that because it's their job to pretend that they're gonna deliver on that stuff and he sees it as his job to actually deliver on it.
By the way, you're gonna see right now the widening gap between Donald Trump against Joe Biden and Republicans against Democrats in the generic ballot.
As we were talking, Harvard just released their new poll.
Trump's at an all-time high, broke way through 50%, he's at 50%, 52, excuse me, and Republicans are now trailing on real clear politics on the generic ballot.
So, they're gonna, Americans are gonna start to ask themselves whether there really is a difference when it comes to everyone else other than Donald Trump.
And that's why I have to say, I know Trump's got a lot on his plate, and that's kind of the point of all this lawfare, but he's got to run with his own slate.
He's got to run with his own slate, much like he did in 22, only with the power of him on the ballot.
So, you cannot keep these people in Congress.
Many of them are very beatable, Jack.
Look at Mario Diaz-Ballard.
He's in, right now, in the Republican primary in Diaz-Ballard's district.
Trump is at 70%.
I mean, these people are beatable.
Bacon is a different story.
He's in a financial district in Nebraska, too.
He's not going to budge because Wall Street owns Don Bacon.
Go to your mailbox, folks.
Look at your, you know, your credit card bill or your bank statement, and where does it come from?
That's Don Bacon's district.
So he doesn't, he's not going to react, but there are others that can be replaced and need to be replaced.
Otherwise, you're just never going to advance the agenda.
They have got to go.
- Katie Granger, perfect example. - Let me ask you, and I know this is speculation, but do you see anyone potentially coming back in?
Do you see Kevin McCarthy brokering a deal to come back in?
We saw Matt Gaetz basically giving, I would say, essentially giving his neck up to get Speaker out in there.
That didn't happen.
McCarthy did come back, by the way, and nominated Jordan for the vote.
So there may be some olive branch there.
I keep, you know, and my text messages are blowing up right now.
The comments are blowing up.
People are upset.
And the question is, is there anyone that can unite this conference?
No.
Honestly, at this point, after what I heard this morning with Jim Jordan, they're going to dig in and they're going to make this a fight.
And that's why, you know, I hate to say this, but the parties, the voters, they're going to have to fight back.
They're going to have to get rid of these people.
You know, I mean, I'm unbelievably looking at Trump plus 30 districts where the congressman, as recent as Saturday and Sunday, were ready to make a deal by Wednesday with Democrats to get a speaker.
So this is where this conflict For instance, again, Republicans are going to have to come to grips with the fact that there are too many posers in their conference.
And by the way, they're probably the majority.
You hear people say all the time, you know, 98% of the conference wanted Kevin McCarthy and 8% joined with Democrats.
Right.
The conference is DC.
Right?
If you were to poll the American public, or you were to poll Republican voters, you're not going to get anywhere near those numbers.
The truth is all of this could have been avoided if Kevin McCarthy just kept not all but a few of his promises.
You know, J6 tapes, that would have went a long way.
You know, not prioritizing Ukraine all the time would have went a long way.
Making sure that single-subject spending bills were the order of the House would have went a long way.
But he didn't do that.
So really, I mean, that's where we're having a fight because the party doesn't represent the people.
And that is not a sustainable position.
No party can survive if they don't have a constituency that actually feels they can represent.
Rich, real quick.
We just got one minute left.
I'll ask you this, yes or no.
What do you think?
Steve Scalise, maybe.
Do you think we see another Scalise play?
I think that would, you know, it's possible it's an option.
It is even an option for Kevin McCarthy to come back because that was the deal on the table.
You know, maybe in January if we just get an interim speaker that McCarthy will have an option to come back.
They were hoping that would satisfy those people.
But, you know, I know we got less time here.
I just, you know, I think that ultimately you're going to hear from more calls to reinstitute Kevin McCarthy.
I really do.
I would not be surprised, actually, that we end up basically where we were.
Perhaps some things get shifted around on some of the committees.
I'm not sure.
Rich, running up on our break, man, where can people go to follow you, get more information?
I'm sure you guys are going to be popping in the community later today.
Absolutely!
Locals is the best place, Jack.
Peoplespundit.locals.com.
People can check out our public polling project and everything.
Thanks for having me, brother.
Appreciate it, Rich, as always.
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Alright guys, I'd like to play a very special clip right now from someone that you guys, I'm sure, have all heard of.
His name is Mr. Mel Gibson.
Let's go.
History tragically repeats itself as we witness the modern day genocide unfolding.
Yet the media's silence on this issue is deafening.
The Armenian people, who have endured centuries of persecution due to their faith, find themselves once again subjected to a brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing.
In the grip of Azerbaijan and Turkey, countless Armenians are enduring unspeakable horrors.
Loss of life, forced displacement, starvation, and isolation from essential supplies.
These are the same Armenians whose roots run deep in a land they've called home for generations.
I implore the international community across all nations to take swift action, extend a helping hand to the Armenian population, offer them the protection they desperately need, and create a humanitarian corridor for their safe passage.
Most importantly, let's engage in immediate diplomatic efforts to ensure that these exiled individuals can return to their rightful homes without delay.
To the Armenian people who still suffer, I say, don't lose heart.
God is with you.
Strong words from Mel Gibson.
We're joined now by a special guest, a host over at PragerU, as well as a country music artist.
Alexis Wilkins joins us.
Alexis, you're Armenian-American yourself.
Tell us, is it strange that you hear Joe Biden giving these speeches about our moral responsibilities on the world stage, calling for wars in some places, bringing up moral equivalency, while he's silent on the ongoing It is strange to me.
I mean, watching the conversations go on and all of these very nuanced situations, and Armenia is completely out of the conversation when there's obviously a huge amount of people involved.
This is a humanitarian issue involving Turkic countries, Azerbaijan and Turkey, and of course Armenia is kind of in the middle there.
with very few actual allies to help them figure this out.
They're definitely the outlier in the region.
And so it's very strange to see not only the online conversation, but also the conversation in government completely exclude Armenian Christians. - Well, and so walk people through it.
Why is this going on right now?
Is there actually a forced displacement?
Does this count as ethnic cleansing?
We've shown the images, and I think we've got one up right now of this highway.
It looks like a modern-day Trail of Tears.
Thousands of cars, people having to move from their ancestral home.
This is the Caucasus Mountains, so they are between Russia and Iran.
Why are these people being forced to move right now?
So these people are leaving from Artsakh.
Again, as you said, not by choice.
Artsakh or Nagorno-Karabakh is a region that belongs to Armenia and has historically been Armenian land, has been 100% Armenian ethnicity for generations and generations.
But the thing is, is because of the way the land has worked and the politics have worked, it's geographically in Azerbaijan.
And so there's about a three mile pathway from mainland Armenia to Artsakh.
And I don't think people understand the course of events that's happened.
You know, of course, the Armenian genocide in 1915 and everything leading up to it.
When the Soviet Union began, Stalin actually signed Artsakh over to Azerbaijan.
And in doing that, he created a kill switch so that if the USSR fell apart, these two regions, Armenia and Azerbaijan, would be unfairly warring over this piece of land that's Armenian land.
And so in the 90s, you know, Armenia got this land back and then we saw it, it was relatively stagnant and peaceful, as peaceful as it can be for a couple, for until 2020.
And so in 2020, and I'd like to point out that we didn't hear anything about this in 2020, Azerbaijan started attacking the Artsakh populations with drones, all of these different things.
And they actually took, they barricaded that pathway so that they couldn't get back to mainland Armenia.
And so what's happening now is really a result of the last three years leading up to it.
And in September, Azerbaijan said, "We're going to take our land," and they started attacking Armenian people.
And they were forced from the region, and that's what we're looking at now.
And that's a very abbreviated history, but that's the overview. - Well, and I'd love to throw out there And guys, if you could throw that map up, I want to show you something that's very important here.
So because of the sanctions on Russian oil, one of the key suppliers now that they're looking to for liquid natural gas has been Azerbaijan.
And the current plan is to build a pipeline all the way across.
And you can see, so that's the Caspian Sea right there to the east.
And what's that to the west?
Oh, the Black Sea.
That's right, the same Black Sea where we're spending so much money to help Ukraine.
Well, what's going on?
They want that LNG.
They want the pipeline to go all the way to the Black Sea and then maybe even through Turkey so that they can get it where to the EU to then resupply basically the deficit that's been lost from the Russian sanctions.
So once again, it all has to do with gas.
It has to do with oil.
I've always said in geopolitics, it's not chercher la femme, as the French would say, look for the woman, it's chercher le pétrole, look for the gas, and you will understand what's going on.
And then of course, what do you have in the middle of all of that?
It's Armenia.
And so Russia is not going to get involved.
Iran might get involved, which is very interesting.
Israel, by the way, is actually supporting Armenia in terms of all of this.
Or excuse me, totally flip that.
Israel is supporting Azerbaijan because of their deals with Azerbaijan.
So it's so strange that you might actually see now Iran come in as a potential peace broker.
Is that right?
That's correct.
I mean, these sides, as you said, are very strictly pertaining to the gas and energy situation.
I mean, we're not looking at really any religious alignments.
We're not looking at ethnic alignments.
I mean, somewhat with the Turkic countries and their priorities.
But other than that, it's very, it's very gas driven.
And so all of this funding that can't go directly to Armenia is actually coming from Iran, but not from Iran.
All the countries are going through it.
So you have Norway going through Iran, you have India going through in Iran.
And that's to protect their own transport corridor over on their side of things.
And so it really is the sides are all dependent on energy, which, like you said, is very, very common in geopolitics.
But it's very sad in this situation because Armenia has been at the mercy of larger countries for hundreds of years.
Looking to the Russians for protection of Christian Armenians and other things that are variables that make it difficult for them to make any decisions for themselves.
That's right.
And even even in the latest fighting, there were a couple of Russian soldiers that are there.
There's a peacekeeping force, but they were actually killed in the situation as the Armenians were being kicked out of Artsakh, and then there were huge protests in
Yerevan in Armenia's capital calling for the mobilization of the Armenian army but of course the Armenian president has decided not to because he doesn't want to go to war over this because he knows that if they were to declare war they might be even be such a situation where they lose the sovereignty of Armenia completely and by the way all of this geopolitics very important but my point I guess that I want to make is and we've got a minute until the break but I'm going to hold you over is
There are horrors and atrocities and terrible things going on all over the world.
The Biden administration says that we need to get involved.
We need to be the world police and everything.
Yet, while things are going on that are absolutely disgusting, he's silent.
He says nothing.
He does nothing.
You know, they send over Samantha Power like she's going to do anything.
No, she's just going to push, you know, the Biden agenda in these areas.
Our guest is Alexis Wilkins, she's from PragerU.
She's giving us the full history of the Armenian Christians, the first Christian nation.
What does that mean?
When she comes back, she's going to explain to us why it is that Armenia, we call it the first Christian nation.
Sway alert, it's because it is.
Stay tuned.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Alright, Jack Pasovic back here live, Human Events Daily.
We're in Washington, D.C., but we're talking about Armenia.
Armenia, the first Christian nation, the ethnic cleansing for displacement of 120,000 people from their homes.
We're talking to Alexis Wilkins, who is an Armenian-American.
She's explaining to us.
She's also a host over at PragerU.
So, Alexis, we're doing this great deep dive.
Why is it that people say Armenia is the first Christian nation?
We keep hearing this, but what's the story on that?
Well, because they are.
So when the empires, Ottoman Empire, Persian Empire, all these different convergences of the empire in the Middle East fell apart and came back together and fell apart again, it was really, I think, in 301 A.D.
that Christianity was accepted into the region.
And so that's, what, almost 1,700 years ago.
And it was after Gregory the Illuminator came in and really changed everything.
And so we've had Churches in the region, Orthodox churches that are ancient.
And I want to note that in Artsakh, it's one of the most religious dense, Christian religious dense areas.
And I don't think it's an accident that that's the area being most targeted.
You know, I don't think that it's fart over for no reason.
They're coming in at Azerbaijan and converting these churches into boxing gyms, into mosques, into, you know, things that really show signs of conquering.
And I do think that it has to do with the fact that Armenia is held as the oldest Christian region.
That's actually, and if I have my dates right, so Emperor Constantine of Rome, so people remember, of course, Constantine becomes the first Christian emperor of Rome, but that wasn't even until after Armenia had become Christian.
So Armenia even predated Rome, very close, but a couple of years before the Roman Empire was converted to Christianity, Before Saint Helena went down to the Holy Land and discovered Church of Holy Sepulchre, etc., etc., the tomb, this was Armenia.
And these ancient churches now are completely being targeted by this.
Now, you're not going to hear this on mainstream media, you're not going to hear this from the White House, but there was something, by the way, that people were warning about very recently because there were reports, and as you say, That Azerbaijan wasn't just looking at this situation in terms of taking Artsakh, this one province.
Is there potential that they could be looking at more?
Well, we saw a report come out a couple of days ago that Anthony Blinken was warning mainland Armenia that Azerbaijan was planning on invading.
And I know that the Azerbaijan lobby in the U.S.
is pretty strong.
And so I wasn't surprised when I saw this retracted.
Ultimately, but we've seen things come out as, you know, rumored reports and then retracted by the people said to have given them.
And then they come out a couple of days later as the truth.
And in this case, it's lives, it's land.
I mean, this is a huge deal.
This isn't a small thing.
And I even think it's wild that we're seeing this retracted.
You know, if this is even borderline a conversation, I think it's completely irresponsible for this administration to retract something like that.
Unfortunately, I guarantee you we're going to see movement on it.
Which by the way, right, so it gets retracted because of their buddies in Azerbaijan told them to retract it, I'm sure.
I don't think they're retracting it because it's not true.
They're retracting it because this administration, whether it's the Iranians, whether it's Hamas, whether it's all of these various groups around the world, and now the Azeris, Over there, they're completely owned because they have no idea what they're doing.
That being said, Alexis, and my heart truly goes out to the Armenian people.
If people want to find more information, I'm sure they can follow you and others, but we do need change.
We need change in the White House.
We need someone to get in who understands the importance of peace.
Is there anyone out There on the political landscape that you can see right now that actually understands what it needs to take and maintain and really create and maintain world peace.
I do.
I think we saw peace in the Middle East during Trump's administration.
We had the Abraham Accords.
We had all of these different negotiations.
I mean, just even the tweets and the meme wars that you're seeing where people are posting, you know, I miss this foreign policy.
And it's a screenshot of a of a tweet that Trump tweeted.
You know, I don't think that it's lost on anyone that that was working better.
We didn't have world wars.
We didn't have economic issues.
We didn't have world leaders canceling meetings last minute once our leadership was already overseas.
I mean, some of the things we're watching are absolutely reprehensible.
You know, things that would never happen in a Trump administration.
We wouldn't dox special ops forces in a White House Instagram post.
I talk a lot about social media and the dangers of it, but I didn't know that I'd have to be referring to the President of the United States and the Biden administration doxing our own special forces.
I mean, the conversations that we're having to have are ridiculous and they wouldn't have happened during the Trump administration.
And I think that's honestly, whether people voted for him or not at this point, I think that they're coming around and realizing that that's peace and we need that back.
That's exactly right.
And you know, when you send special operations forces over, by the way, just, and I say this as a prior Navy intel officer, but really just someone who has common sense, you know, if you're about to go and conduct a covert mission, it's probably not a great idea to hold a press conference with the covert mission force before you send them behind enemy lines to go rescue hostages.
Just Basic stuff, you know, basic, I don't know.
I don't know.
Common sense.
You know, I would imagine that, you know, the average person might know.
You probably want to lay low instead of posting pictures of them on Instagram.
Alexis, this has been a fantastic interview.
Tell people where your coordinates, where do you hang your content regularly?
Where can people go to find you?
Thank you so much.
You can find me at Alexis Wilkins on True Social, on Rumble, on Anywhere you consume media, it's all the same.
It's Alexis Wilkins.
Okay, and now do you post, do you have regular videos?
Do you have a show?
How does it work with Prager?
So, I have regular videos that I post.
I have some videos that post through Prager, but I have my own kind of recaps and content that you'll be seeing coming out through my Rumble.
Okay, great.
No, Prager's been very nice to us.
They keep, they had me out and we did that whole, was it Stories of You, right?
You know, and then I'm sitting in the chair and they keep posting it over and over.
I'm like, gosh, there's so much Pozo that gets put.
So I appreciate it.
I didn't realize they'd be posting it quite that much, but we've got a ton of views on this thing.
I'm so glad that they've got you in the mix.
And my heart goes out to you, truly, Alexis, and the Armenian people as you're going through what you're going through.
And then to not even have a President of the United States That acknowledges it.
It's so sad.
Thank you for joining us here at Human Events Daily.
Thank you for having me.
God bless.
Folks, there's always going to be horror in this world.
