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EPISODE 585: THE GULAGS HAVE ARRIVED - DOUGLASS MACKEY SENTENCED TO SEVEN MONTHS FOR MEMES

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This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobiec.
Deliver us from evil!
The pride that Israel takes in the ability to defend itself by itself, but as we want to make very clear, You don't have to do that because we're here.
because we're here. - Aid under President Joe Biden may have gone to benefit Hamas.
$1 billion under President Biden has gone to a group called the United Nations Relief.
Now, the former President Trump cut off the funding in 2018, citing flaws in the agency because of links to Hamas.
- The attack on Israel should have never happened, and it wouldn't have happened if they had a different president.
You're looking at live pictures of Beirut, Lebanon right now, protests erupting into violence a short while ago.
What began as a protest in front of the U.S.
Embassy by Lebanese people last night became very violent over the course of the evening.
No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.
Israeli forces are on the Gaza border preparing for a major ground operation into Gaza and Iran is making more threats.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
Live from Washington, D.C., Jack Posobiec.
Today is October 18th, 2023.
Anno Domini.
I want to play a clip right now for everybody of Hillary Clinton from a few days ago.
Let's play that, guys.
And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure.
He's only in it for himself.
He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.
And when do they break with him?
You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members, but something needs to happen.
Hillary Clinton called for a formal deprogramming of Trump supporters, calling us cult members.
Well, what happened today, out of New York City?
Federal judge just sentenced Douglas Mackey to seven months in prison after being found guilty of election interference for making memes disparaging Hillary Clinton.
His name is Douglas Mackey.
Everyone needs to go to memedefensefund.com right now to support Douglas Mackey.
Because it's not just about Doug.
It's about all of us.
And they know it.
That's the point.
This is about having the right to meme.
Having the freedom to meme.
Doug represents the 16ers.
The people that helped give the United States its last real taste of freedom.
Do you remember that taste?
Before the bombs started dropping?
Before the war drums started beating?
It wasn't about election interference.
No matter what the media reports or fails to report on, this was about showing the radical left how ridiculous their worldview actually is.
And of course, Trump is gagged.
In his case, over January 6th, so Trump being gagged by another federal judge, that's not election interference.
But Doug Mackey, a meme maker, gets sent to jail for making memes, and that's election interference.
The country you grew up in no longer exists.
The gulags are here now.
This isn't just about throwing Doug in jail.
This is about shutting up everyone that would potentially speak out against the corrupt regime under which we live in.
To silence you.
To make you terrified about what you post online.
To make you scared to speak your voice?
Well, guess what?
Guess what, regime?
I'm still here.
Poso's still standing.
All of us are still standing.
And you know what?
We're not going to stop.
We're not going to stop throwing up pictures of Doug or Ricky Vaughn, his account from 2016.
We're not going to stop posting memes.
We're not going to stop speaking truth to power.
This will be appealed.
We're going to go to memedefensefund.com.
And when Donald J. Trump takes the oath of office on January 20th, 2035 at high noon, he will pardon Doug Mackey on day one.
You can take that to the bank.
He's coming back.
Doug's getting pardoned.
All the J6ers are being pardoned.
and all of you are going to be the ones facing jail sentences.
Just wait.
We're coming.
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Look folks, this situation that we're facing right now, and I want to be very clear, we understand that we're going into World War III right now.
May have already begun.
Biden's over there falling asleep at these summits.
The summits, some of which are being canceled because events are spinning out of control because of the Biden regime.
But all the same while, the legacy media, the dinosaur media, the mainstream media will tell you that you must be very, very concerned with the events that are going on thousands of miles away.
And we have to fight!
We have to fight all of these people at the same time.
Why?
To stand up for democracy.
To stand up for democracy.
Isn't that what we're always told?
To stand up for democracy.
Well, guess what?
The United States government just threw a man in jail for posting memes.
Gavin Wax of the New York Young Republicans joins us.
Gavin, I know this actually took place in New York.
I know you were following the case.
Gavin, what's your analysis?
What's going on?
How did we get to this point?
Well, thank you for having me, Jack.
And I like how you opened, kind of tying it to the geopolitical framework of the world at large.
You know, the United States once used to stand up and say, you know, we have the moral high ground.
You know, we're projecting this worldview onto the world stage of democracy, of human rights, of all these really nice-sounding words, terms, and phrases.
But, you know, it just appears to be every day we're losing all those supposed, you know, deeply held values here at home.
And now we are seeing an American citizen being sentenced to, I believe, seven months in jail.
For creating memes during the 2016 presidential election mocking Hillary Clinton.
This is a type of sentence.
This is the type of, you know, crime.
It's shocking that it's even a crime.
But these are the types of things that you would expect from these third world dictatorships that the United States, or certain segments of the United States government, is always calling to invade, to advance democracy and whatever else they're pushing these days.
So it's a really sad state of affairs for our country that we've hit such a low point Uh, that our justice system can't really be called a justice system anymore.
Uh, it certainly can't be called a justice system for everyone.
Uh, there's certainly multiple different tiers.
I know before the show, I said two, you said three, you know, one for the elites, one for the conservatives and one for the every man.
You know, I would argue that in a few more years, if we continue on this trajectory, there will be two, there will be two sets of justice for the elites and everyone else.
They won't even, you know, separate the everyday people from conservatives.
If you're not in the club, You will be treated by a different set of standards.
So I think this is ridiculous.
It also just goes to show the amount of legislation and rules and things on the books at the federal level.
I mean, you could find any obscure statute that was passed by Congress, these vague, obscure statutes that are poorly written, that any activist judge or activist prosecutor could take advantage of to throw you into jail.
I mean, we need wholesale reform at the federal level, reviewing all these statutes, putting in Sunset Clause provisions, making sure that a lot of these things that could be abused and used are tossed out.
And I hope that we will be seeing, and I expect to see, a Republican president, you know, in 2024.
And if we do that, and if we take back Congress, we need to remove and amend and, you know, change all these laws that have been abused by these activist left-wing prosecutors, just like in this case, and make sure that none of these statutes stay on the books.
You know, it goes without saying, pardon day one when Donald J. Trump returns to office for Doug Mackey.
Until then, folks can go to MemeDefenseFund.com, support Doug, MemeDefenseFund.com, support the right to meme.
And I want to be clear that, so what we're getting in terms of details, it is seven months, his So his sentence was stayed, which means he will have to serve his sentence while trying to appeal the case.
That means he's got to go in.
The judge decided that today.
This is extreme, very egregious.
Nothing like this has ever been done in the entire history of our republic.
Again, sending someone essentially for a political cartoon.
The modern political cartoon is a meme.
And a man has just been sentenced to seven months in jail for making the equivalent of a modern political cartoon.
And so we're told that his current sentence date is 18 January and that could be potentially pushed back if, again, based on some of the appeals that could go forward.
Gavin, why is it so important?
Why is it that what they've done Well, listen, the art of the meme is a huge part of the modern political landscape.
Why does this matter?
Well, listen, the art of the meme is a huge part of the modern political landscape.
I mean, memes can make or break a campaign.
They can make or break a candidate.
They can really change the entire political and electoral landscape.
They are a very powerful tool, a powerful medium, uh, in the modern digital age of political warfare, and obviously the left recognizes that.
The left has always been caught on the back foot.
They've always been a few steps behind the right in their, uh, you know, methods of media production.
The left can't mean!
The left can't mean to throw people in jail who can!
Exactly.
That's exactly what I'm really trying to boil it down to.
No, I was just gonna say there's a longer explanation, but the left can't meme because they are memes.
A meme is a humorous observation on reality, whereas leftism is a long-form denial of reality.
Correct.
I mean, it's very philosophical when you break it down beyond all the funny memes that we can discuss and laugh at, but it is really a substantive issue here, and I think, you know, Campaigns and candidates and political movements that understand that the new, and I like how you phrased it, the new political cartoons of the era, the memes of the era can really make or break things.
I think the left is beginning to understand it.
I think they realize they can't really compete on this front properly.
They're always going to be, you know, caught in the back foot when it comes to it.
So they figured, all right, well, let's just Let's just, you know, imprison and criminally prosecute some prominent meme masters.
What effect does this have?
This isn't just about Doug Mackey, though.
What effect does this have on everybody out there?
It's not just about the 2016 election, possibly the greatest election of all time, but it's also about the 2024 election, isn't it?
Correct.
I mean, they want to scare anyone who would be engaged in similar types of meme making.
They want to scare anyone.
Uh, from even, you know, hiding behind an anonymous account, anyone who, who uses the internet's, you know, rights of anonymity to advance a political agenda, you know, this is a big part, uh, of what makes Twitter great, or excuse me, X great, and what makes the internet great is that, you know, you can still advance your political ideals and not risk, you know, being doxxed or canceled or losing your job and livelihood, which we know the left is, uh, very apt to do, especially against conservatives and Trump supporters, and now they've taken it a step further.
All of which they did to Doug Mackey, by the way.
Correct, correct.
He's gotten it from all fronts, but now they're trying to set a new standard that not only will you be cancelled, not only will you be doxxed, not only will we come after you, but we're also now going to criminally prosecute you for engaging in wrong-think and for producing wrong-think memes that challenge people's perceptions and views
On reality challenge people's perceptions and views on the political landscape on the state of the country and all the rest and they're doing this in the lead up to 2024 because they want to prevent you know effective individuals like Doug from making memes from from engaging in the political discourse online and from shifting and from shifting the narrative and shifting the Overton window all of which happened in 2016 as you mentioned and will happen again in 2024 if we're allowed to do so in the in the town square in the in the public town square which is the internet which is
X, which is whatever other app you may be using.
So we're heading into very scary times.
I mean, this is just one incident of many, many where we're seeing, you know, the justice system just be, you know, completely turned inside out.
All these institutions weaponized against American citizens.
They're doing it to the J6ers.
Now they're doing it to memers.
They're doing it to a whole wide range of anyone who's anti-regime, anti-establishment.
And it's really the telltale sign of a declining empire, of a declining American state.
Uh, that we're really in a very dark time in our country's history where the political discourse, where the political dichotomy is so stark, which is so polarized, it's only going to get worse.
And the left is playing for keeps.
I give them credit.
They're playing, they're playing this like it's a blood sport and you have Republicans, like you mentioned in the opening, Republicans are the party of the dumb and they're playing, you know, for pats on the head.
They're playing, uh, for really stupid reasons.
They're not, they're certainly not playing to win.
They're certainly not playing to beat back the left.
And the longer this sort of dynamic continues, The more incidents like this latest sentencing are going to continue to happen.
We're going to see more sentences like that.
This is just the first step.
They're testing the waters.
They're seeing if they could get away with it.
They're seeing how the public's reaction is going to be.
And they're seeing, okay, well next time it won't be seven months.
Next time it'll be a year.
And then thereafter, two years and three years and so on and so forth.
Until it becomes such a dark period, such an ominous position to be in that you're too scared to even engage in this sort of political memery, if that's even a word.
But this is just the beginning of a long trend of, I see, likewise sentences.
First, they came for the memers.
You know, there's a direct correlation between this and the Trump prosecution because, in fact, the charge that they hit Doug Mackey with is the same one that some J6ers faced, the same one that Donald Trump faced in the Jan 6th hearing, excuse me, Jan 6th prosecution, regarding conspiracy against rights.
And so they hit him with this charge, conspiracy against rights.
It's totally bogus, totally insane, but on the books, What it is, they claimed it was a conspiracy to deprive the rights of others by allowing them to vote in the election.
This is the same charge they've hit President Trump with.
This actually is a test case to set up and set the precedent for President Trump going forward, as well as you say, Gavin, potentially anyone else.
Influencers.
These are influencers.
And they're friends of mine.
meme I don't like?
Well, guess what?
Make a better meme.
No, they're not going to make a better meme anymore.
They're going to throw you in jail.
Do you get it yet?
Are you paying attention yet?
Influencers.
These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
Jack.
Where's Jack?
He's got a great job.
The left can't meme, so they're throwing people in jail who can.
We're back, Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec.
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Gavin Wax, when we look at the situation, when we look at the understanding of what our country has turned into, I can't get past this notion That we're told that we have to send our troops.
We've got, what, as many as 20,000 troops right now in harm's way in the Middle East.
Two aircraft carriers, which two carriers alone, that's 5,000 souls apiece, which I've been saying all week those things are sitting ducks.
And then who comes out and says the exact same?
We're going to talk about this earlier, but I decided to throw the whole show out the window because of what happened with Doug.
But Vladimir Putin came out and as well pointed out the very thing that I've been saying here since the first carrier was sent, that those carriers are indeed within range of the MiG-31s and their Kinzhal hypersonic missiles.
The ability to Speed to their targets at Mach 9 over a thousand kilometers.
Do we even seem to have any notion of what's going on?
Meanwhile, we're told all of this is in furtherance of democracy when our democracy is throwing people in jail for political cartoons here in the United States.
Gavin, zoom out for a minute.
Why is all this happening now?
How is it connected?
This is all the hubris of the American empire and the American elites that run it.
I can't even say American elites, the globalist elites who run it.
You know, we were once, you know, Pax Americana, sort of this American empire based on, you know, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and all of these, you know, preconceived notions about what makes our country great.
But we've basically given up the pretense of even upholding those same principles, those same rights here at home.
But we want to use the rhetoric.
We want to use the PR.
We want to use the marketing to continue to project it abroad at the end of a gun.
And the world is constantly beginning to realize that we are, you know, Joe Biden is an emperor with no clothes, essentially, that, you know, we've hollowed out our country economically, spiritually and otherwise.
We don't have the moral high ground.
We don't have this moral superiority.
We're in no position to dictate to anyone about human rights or whatever other concept we do your.
And we've put ourselves in a position where we have now become overstretched militarily and economically.
And it's being taken advantage of of our enemies and some really bad actors across the world.
And the world has never been, uh, closer, uh, to World War III.
Uh, we have, uh, rarely in the past few decades ever been less safe terrorism is on the rise, conflict is on the rise, multiple regional wars.
You know, this is the whole world is on fire right now.
And this is largely due not only to the Biden administration, but more broadly, this sort of globalist elite, their contempt for the everyday people, whether it's in their countries in Europe or in the United States, and their utter hubris.
And they think that they can continue to dictate the terms that they can continue to maintain a unipolar world order when it's becoming increasingly clear that we are no longer in a unipolar world order.
the terms, that they can continue to maintain a unipolar world order when it's becoming increasingly clear that we are no longer in a unipolar world order.
And we haven't been for some time, we were in a multipolar world order.
And we haven't been for some time.
We were in a multipolar world order.
And if we want to navigate that, we have to operate under that assumption, we have to operate under that as a as a basis of fact.
And if we want to navigate that, we have to operate under that assumption.
We have to operate under that as a basis of fact.
And, and the sooner we do that, and the sooner we can navigate that, the better off the world is going to be.
And the sooner we do that, and the sooner we can navigate that, the better off the world is going to be.
And I think the only person running for president right now who understands the dynamics on the world stage, who understands how to achieve peace, how to put the United States in a position of peace and strength, both at home and abroad, is President Donald J. Trump.
And we did not see this insanity unfolding under his first term.
We didn't see this violence, this chaos.
These were all the things they warned us about back in 2015, 2016, when Doug was making memes.
They said that the world would be brought to the verge of nuclear war.
That didn't happen.
Instead, we saw, you know, record breaking, you know, advancement.
To point out this, by the way, so we know, and people remember the meme that Doug was sent to jail for was this thing about text your vote for Hillary voters.
But that's not the only meme that Doug, aka Ricky Vaughn at the time, posted.
There was another meme campaign that Doug and the merry band of 16ers were posting around that very same era.
I do, I do.
was hashtag draft your daughters.
Gavin, do you remember hashtag draft your daughters?
Can you explain that?
I do.
I do.
I remember it very well.
And so this, this campaign was based on Hillary's notion that she was extremely pro war.
And what it was, was essentially an anti-war meme campaign to make it look as though Hillary Clinton was calling for.
So it played into the meme of of feminism, which of course she was pushing, "Stayin' with her, I'm with her." And also the meme of pro-war at the same time saying, you know, she fought for her space in the office, now she can fight in Syria, now she can fight on the battlefield.
I mean, there were a ton of these.
But essentially, Doug Mackey was somebody who warned us that the world would be at war if Democrats got in power.
Isn't that right?
Yeah, absolutely.
And listen, I don't think we're very far off from that meme from way back when, way back when in 2015, 2016.
You know, listen, I think if we're going to try to fight a war on multiple fronts, whether it's China-Taiwan, whether it's Russia-Ukraine, whether it's Iran, whether it's Hezbollah-Hamas, you know, you name it.
I mean, there's even potential conflicts in the Balkans.
There's already a conflict in the Caucasus that you have been drawing attention to, the plight of the Armenian Christians.
You know, we're talking about the entire world being at war.
There's conflicts in West Africa.
Uh, if we really want to, you know, uh, you know, be involved in all of these and we really want to fight a multi-front war and, uh, engage in the sort of empire building that, you know, the neoconservatives tried to do for the last 20, 30 years.
Well, you know, we're running into a point where we're not going to have the manpower to do it.
I mean, when you see recruitment is at record lows, the, the, the, the core, uh, you know, American demographic that really supports these conflicts in terms of their sons and daughters signing up to join the armed forces.
You're talking about conservative.
Christian families in the South and the Midwest, they're not signing up like they used to.
These generational American military families are now walking away from the American Armed Forces.
They're walking away from these institutions that they once cherished, they once supported, and they once fought for because they realize that these institutions no longer stand up for them.
They no longer represent their interests, and even further, they actually go out of their way I mean, we've depleted our munitions and our military stockpiles for Ukraine and now we're sending stuff over to Israel.
of America last agenda, you name it.
They're really going against the very people that they need to sign up to fight these wars.
So we're actually in a very, you know, very precarious state militarily.
You know, we've depleted our munitions and our military stockpiles for Ukraine, and now we're sending stuff over to Israel.
I mean, we have just emptied out our military reserves, both in terms of dollars and in terms of actual bullets.
And also now we're stretched thin in terms of the actual manpower.
So I don't even know if the United States is prepared for the types of conflicts that may lie ahead.
And honestly, if we look to history, we look to history with, sorry, yes.
Yes.
No, no, so connect it to me, connect it to me, just a couple of minutes left.
How is it that, and let me know, are there any other candidates that you see out there on the field that are poised to deal with all of these threats that are arrayed before us, or is there one that stands out in your mind?
Listen, there's no one else in the field on either side, whether it's the Republican side or the Democrat side, that understands how to achieve peace, peace through strength, understands how to put the United States In a position of strength militarily, to broadcast that strength in a very tactful way, and to let our enemies know that we are not to be messed with, but that our ultimate goal is peace, not interventionism.
And the only person who has a record of that, the only person who has continued to maintain a rhetoric supporting those positions has been President Donald J. Trump.
He was the president of peace.
His foreign policy successes were massive.
They cannot even be challenged by even his most vocal opposition, whether in the Republican Party or within the Democrat Party.
Everyone understands that on the on the in the field of foreign policy, President Trump achieved what many thought was impossible from North Korea to the Middle East and elsewhere.
Had he had a second term, we would have had we would have seen even further developments in the Balkans and other regions in terms of developing peace in areas that have seen generational conflict over the last hundred or so years.
so years.
So we need this man back in the white house now more than ever.
Uh, if you're going to vote on one issue and one issue alone, and that's preventing nuclear war, ensuring peace and making sure your daughters aren't drafted, uh, to utilize the meme you referenced.
And the only person that you should be voting for is president Donald J. Trump come November of 2024.
Gavin, what are your coordinates?
Where can people find you?
Thank you.
You can follow me at Gavin Wax.
That's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and all the rest.
You can follow the New York Young Republican Club at NYYRC.
We're going to have a fantastic gala this year.
December 9th, Jack will be there, and many other great American patriots will be there.
We have Nigel Farage confirmed as one of our first speakers.
We have another speaker soon to be announced that I know many people will really appreciate, and many more to come.
So check out the New York Young Republican Club at NYYRC.com.
Very excited.
Thank you, Gavin.
I want to play now.
We're going to be joined in our next segment by a guest, Lee Smith, who actually was featured in a documentary I made years ago.
You can go watch this.
Antifamovie.com.
It's still up.
It's called Antifa, Rise of the Black Flags.
Antifamovie.com.
We've got a clip from it for you that I'd like to play now.
There is an ideology called anti-fascism.
Now this is a blend of anti-government extremism, of both anarchism and communism.
However, in the same way that radical Islam is an idea, there are various groups that have been formed aligned on this idea.
A lot of my experience comes from reporting in the Middle East.
I lived in Lebanon for several years, where Hezbollah is the main, is the only existing armed militia inside of Lebanon.
And Hezbollah is a front for Iranian interest on the Eastern Mediterranean.
And actually now with the Syrian war and other things, it represents Iranian interest around the region.
And that is actually how I see Antifa.
Historically, this is one of the things that we've seen in the Middle East for at least half a century.
Of course, the Iranians went to train in Lebanon.
We saw the Middle East as a place for people who are training in terrorism and training for combat.
that this is where they go. - In my ear about the boring people at your office, I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec. - All right, Jack Posobiec back here, live human events daily.
Now, while we're all focused on what's going on, the censorship regime coming down, Doug Mackey being thrown in jail, and keep in mind folks, the reason they're doing this, the reason they're doing this to us is because they want to be in your head.
They want you second-guessing every thought, every joke.
You want the Thought Police?
Well, guess what?
The Thought Police are here, and if you cross them, you will be thrown in the gulag.
Lee Smith is an author.
He's a columnist.
He's leesmith.locals.com.
You just heard him in that fantastic documentary that we did, Antifa Rise of the Black Flags, a few years ago.
Lee, thank you so much for joining us here on Human Events Daily.
Hey Jack, thank you so much for bringing me on.
I really appreciate it.
Great to be talking to you today.
No, it's great to have you.
Now, you've written a ton in Tablet about the recent, I would say, flare-up, I wouldn't say the kickoff, because it's really a flare-up in this war that's been going on for decades now between the State of Israel and these Islamic fighters.
When we were talking about Antifa and BLM and did that documentary a few years ago, why was it that you directly tied it to these types of groups?
What is the connective tissue there?
Well, their causes are essentially, their causes are the same.
I mean, I'm sure that a lot of you saw the, you know, the picture of BLM in support of Hamas.
They had the image of the paraglider.
I mean, you know, what did these paragliders do?
I mean, they slaughtered hundreds of Israelis at a music festival.
You know, the total right now is 1,400 Israelis they killed.
Hundreds who've been taken hostage in Gaza.
So again, it's the same kind of, and we've seen this going on in the 60s and 70s.
I mean, it's important to remember all the international, especially all the Europeans and the American left, who trained in places like Lebanon, which is, by the way, where Hamas trained for this operation.
So it really is sort of an international collection of terror organizations, militias, if people would prefer to put it like that.
But BLM is clearly a blue militia, right?
And there's a reason they stand up for Hamas.
There's a reason they stand up for Hezbollah.
There's a reason they promote the same causes, right?
And that's nothing to do with justice.
That's to do with, you know, it has to do with violence and targeting American peace and prosperity.
That's a very important thing that they share.
These are all anti-American organizations.
in addition to anti-Israel, but primarily anti-American.
Well, and they see it as connected.
So I remember your analysis from this work we had done a couple of years ago, and I had actually tweeted, I said, oh, don't be surprised when you see BLM come out in support of Hamas.
And they did exactly that the very next day.
And Lee, isn't it the same type of rhetoric that we hear from Hamas, from the Hezbollah, these groups talking about colonization, colonizers?
Isn't that the same type of rhetoric that they push within the BLM community?
This is one of the purposes of the Iran nuclear deal, Barack Obama's Iran nuclear deal, which Joe Biden has came to restore.
The purpose of it was was to push, was to push Jewish Democrats out of out of out of positions of power and the Democratic Party.
Right.
I mean, I mean, these are basically centrists.
And to replace them with people like BLM, with activists, with the squad.
Right.
With Rushda Tlaib.
With AOC, with Ilhan Omar.
This is one of the purposes.
Why?
Because it would disgust centrist Democrats so much, the idea that Barack Obama, that the United States was going to legalize the nuclear weapons program of a terror state.
So, I mean, these things are supposed to move in parallel.
That's who Barack Obama intended to empower domestically.
The characters from BLM, the Squad, Antifa.
Right?
And the characters he intended to empower abroad were Hamas or Hezbollah, the Islamic Republic of Iran.
So these things were designed to move in tandem.
So again, that all of these people feel empowered right now and thrilled by the sight of Israeli blood, by horrific, horrific crimes.
They're salivating and drooling at that.
Remember, this is purposeful.
Barack Obama intended to prioritize them, to make them the power core of the Democratic Party, and abroad to give them power over the Middle East.
And that's really interesting because it was, again, of course, in that same second term of Obama, that you also saw the rise of BLM, with the flames of which were quietly, and in some cases, very openly and loudly inflamed by the very same Obama administration.
So what you're saying is that this wasn't some accident, this wasn't some goof up, this was actually the policy of the Obama administration that we're now seeing live live in front of our eyes.
Yes, 100%.
This was the plan to unleash these forces of violence, both here and abroad.
I want to say it's a very important thing, Jack, because we're all out there on social media and checking different things out.
I'm obviously very pro-Israel, and I think it's fine if people aren't or whatever, but I just want to say that this I'm not saying that Israel's fight is ours, right?
That's what a lot of people were saying about the democracy agenda, the botched and moronic democracy agenda in the Middle East.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying it's important for us to step aside and see that these things are connected, right?
A lot of people are looking at it, and again, I get it, because we've been targeted, right, for what seems like it's since 2016, starting with Russiagate.
And then everything from COVID mandates and mask mandates and January 6th and all this garbage, all the psyops, the tens of billions of dollars that have gone to Volodymyr Zelensky.
I get why people look at this and say, this smells awfully fishy to me.
But I want to say one thing, which I think is very important.
The communications architecture.
That is being used to push all these information operations on the American public, was first built by Barack Obama in 2014 to sell the Iran nuclear deal, right?
Israel is not part of the SIOB.
Israel is a target of the SIOB, as is the American public.
So I think it's very important for people to understand and to remember what the Iran deal was like.
Obama and his aides, Ben Rhodes, at the top of the list lied about it.
They said, "Oh, no, no, this is gonna stop Iran from getting a bomb." But just a cursory glance at that agreement, the Iran nuclear agreement showed that was a lie.
What it was meant to do was to legalize it.
Legalize the bomb.
And what did Ben Rhodes famously say about this communications apparatus when he discussed his dealings, or his management, shall we say, of journalists?
Right, he said that, well, I can't remember.
These are 23-year-olds who know nothing about the world at all.
Except, you know, one of the things that's kind of interesting, if you look at Russiagate, and if you look at how they sold the Iran deal, They used veterans, right?
They used people like Tom Friedman, Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic.
So it wasn't just 23-year-olds.
Michael Isikoff, yes.
Michael Isikoff, David Ignatius.
Look at the people they used to sell it.
So I think it's very important for people to understand actually what the communications architecture looks like and how this was built.
Again, I understand why people look like, is this just the next current thing?
It's important for us to look at this clearly and see how the sides are drawn.
Right.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden have taken a position against the U.S.
public, just as they've taken a position against the government of Israel.
Again, people don't have to like Israel.
They can be contemptuous.
They can hate it.
Whatever.
I just want people to see the layout of this, what's actually going on here and how this is a part, right, how this is a part of the communications architecture First built by Barack Obama and now employed by Joe Biden.
Lee, I think that's exactly right.
And we can see the media when NBC's chief disinformation reporter, Sweaty Ben Collins, we call him Sweaty Ben around here.
I keep offering him, by the way, to buy the MyPillow pack, the six piece towel so he can wipe the sweat off of his forehead.
He goes all in on whatever narrative the New York Times is pushing.
Which ends up having to have their headline changed three times in one day.
Lee, imagine if you or I had to change our headline three times in one day.
We'd be demonetized and censored, blamed and attacked on a hospital and all this, when at the time they had no idea.
It turns out it was the parking lot, it wasn't actually the hospital.
We're coming up on a break.
I'd love to be able to hold you, Lee, because this is an important day and people need to understand.
It's not hypocrisy.
It's hierarchy.
These people don't care if you point out the double standards because they are operating off of a playbook and agenda.
And you know who's got a copy of that playbook?
Lee Smith.
He's here with us right now.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
We're on the phone with Lee Smith, the author of The Plot Against the President.
Lee, in that book, that documentary, Plot Against the President, you focused on the U.S.
intelligence community extensively.
I previously served in the U.S.
intelligence community for about eight years, but you had an interesting piece in Tablet Magazine this week talking about the fact that You know, we've talked about the intel failures of the IDF.
We've talked about the fact that Egyptian intelligence supposedly warned Israel about this.
We're not sure what happened in the shakeup there.
But you asked the question, what did U.S.
intelligence know and why is no one asking about this?
Yeah, I mean, I kind of went through all the different stories.
And, you know, if you if you look at the way all these stories were pushed into the U.S.
press, I mean, it's astonishing.
Because you see a lot of the people who are pushing Russiagate stories, whether this was Natasha Bertrand at CNN, whether this was Ken Delaney at NBC.
I mean, anyone who's following Russiagate will recognize these names, that these were some of the, you know, some of the biggest creeps out there pushing the collusion story.
So here they are, they're pushing all this stuff about what the US intelligence community told the Israelis, how they warned the Israelis, or someone warned the Israelis.
and none of it adds up right i mean uh first of all the the egyptian story i mean the united states gives the gives the uh egyptians two billion dollars a year i mean it's an enormous aid package and part of that includes all sorts of military and intelligence cooperation so i'm awfully skeptical of the idea that the egyptians would have gone to the israelis without intel but they wouldn't have shared it with the americans it doesn't make sense here's the other thing we have
i mean the largest uh largest um military base in the middle east is in qatar and qatar you know uh centcom at aladev air base But, I mean, Qatar, that's where also the head of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, lives.
So, we didn't have access to anything he was doing there, and this is keeping in mind the fact that the NSA basically collects on everyone in the world.
But somehow this is something that we went, something we had nothing on, and same with Lebanon.
We pour $72 billion a year into Lebanon, into the Lebanese Armed Forces, into the internal security forces, and this is where they plan the operation.
This is where the Iranians plan the operation, in Lebanon and in Syria.
But still, the United States had nothing on it?
Look, obviously the Israelis are to blame, primarily to blame, and they've already paid a very heavy price.
1,400 Israelis are dead.
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that somehow yeah the u.s had nothing to do with it they didn't know anything that was going on that's absolutely nonsense and that's what all these stories were for all these stories were pushed to uh to first to cover for all of the u.s failures and not just to cover for the u.s failures look i'm the the evidence points to the the evidence points pretty strongly to the fact that the united states knew something was going on and they didn't share it with the israelis they
I don't think the Americans, I don't think anyone had any idea how bad this was going to be, the scope or the character of this vicious assault.
But it seems to me the United States, again, given the number of stories that came out, given how laughably absurd they are, and given how all of them are competing with each other, it seems to me that there are a lot of people across agencies and offices across the Beltway who are it seems to me that there are a lot of people across agencies and offices across the Beltway who are worried that something's going to come out, describing or giving evidence of the fact that they knew what was happening or they had some inkling of
on.
You know, and Lee, that is a huge, huge consideration.
And now, I'll put it this way, what's your assessment on that?
Do you think that this was, and some people said it's malicious, some people have said it was incompetent, others have pointed to the dysfunction within the IDF, within Israel politically, of course, that's spilling out into the IDF, and in fact, 60 Minutes did a whole piece on that just about three weeks before this attack took place, talking about the readiness of the IDF and many reservists.
Leaving their posts and actually resigning in protest of Netanyahu and some of the internal domestic politics, this judicial reform package he was pushing.
But at the same time, when it comes to our U.S.
intel, I mean, the thing that really strikes to me would be that they're just so focused on Ukraine right now that we don't actually have the ability and the resources that are being sent to everything else.
And that's why, of course, that Hamas And Iran and these other actors, of course, took advantage of that.
Well, I mean, they're also focused on Catholics.
They're focused on school parents.
Yes, of course, right.
They're focused on... Yeah, the school parents and those of us Catholics that like to pray in Latin.
Right.
So this is one of their priorities.
Now, they had it.
They knew what was going on.
The issue is, though, Look, I mean, I reported previously on, you know, there's a spy at the Pentagon.
There's a member of an Iranian spy ring at the Pentagon who was pushed into the U.S.
government by Biden.
And before that, Obama's Iran envoy, Robert Malley, pushed an Iranian operative named Ariana Tabatabai first into the State Department, and now she's a DOD.
What does she do at the Defense Department?
Funny you should ask.
She's the Chief of Staff for the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations.
Astonishing, isn't it?
But that's what's going on.
They do not perceive Iran to be an adversary.
They look at Iran as a prospective partner.
So they knew a lot of what was going on.
Of course, they collect on Iran.
Of course, they know what's going on.
They just don't think the Iranians are that big of a problem right now.
They have other priorities, again, like Jack Posovic.
They're worried?
that's right right but but lee you're actually you're putting out something here that's important and i want to i was looking down before because i pick up my my rosary my my large size rosary that we keep right next to that and i've got the small one over there that's that's my that's my standby just in case you need a sidearm just in case you need your side piece but you're actually saying that and we only have about a minute left but you're actually saying that the biden administration de-prioritized what iran might be up to because they're trying to build relations with iran That's a huge deal.
So what you're saying is they could have actually picked up these indicators of planning, but then deprioritized it because of political agendas from the White House.
Yes, exactly right.
As Barack Obama did, they perceive the Iranians to be a prospective partner.
They want to get the Iran deal back on course.
Look, I want to point something else out, and maybe you've been talking about it.
Real quickly, we've just got 30 seconds left.
There have been 2009, 2012, 2014, 2021, and now five Hamas-Israel conflicts.
Guess when none of them happened?
During President Donald Trump's administration.
Right?
There's a problem going on with the Obama faction.
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