EPISODE 531: LIVE FROM DC - THE SOVIET ARRAIGNMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
On today’s must see episode of Human Events, Jack Posobiec brings you all the breaking news LIVE from the Washington D.C. courthouse where President Trump’s arraignment took place. Joined by Richard Baris, Natalie Winters, Julie Kelly and Chris Rufo, Poso dives deep into the charges surrounding Trump in a series of conversations that give you all the news with zero static. Jack Posobiec drops receipts on Dan Goldman, Jack Smith and the Biden Regime like only Poso can - this is a show you don’...
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Vessel Counsel Jack Smith breaking his silence about his latest indictment of former President Trump, alleging Trump knew he lost the 2020 election but was determined to remain in power anyway.
The grand jury indicting the former president on four counts, including conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights.
The charges all centering around Trump's alleged efforts to overturn his presidential loss to Joe Biden.
Trump will appear in federal court tomorrow responding to a summons for his appearance.
This is not technically an arrest, but Trump will be fingerprinted and will provide the pertinent information for processing.
He will not have his picture taken for a mugshot.
If this is allowed to stand, this is not your country anymore.
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Isn't it curious that the timing always happens to be hours, literally hours, after there's bad news about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden?
They are criminalizing anyone who resists DOJ on any level, on any policy matter whatsoever.
Free speech will not survive if this indictment succeeds.
The judge assigned to this case is named Judge Tanya Chutkin.
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Judge Chutkin has presided over about two dozen of the January 6th defendants' cases.
She is the only judge in any of the January 6th cases who's handed out longer sentences than DOJ prosecutors even asked for.
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I want to take you now live to the streets of Washington, D.C., where the regime is preparing to bring President Trump, he's en route right now, to the D.C.
courthouse.
We've got Nick Baldassi on the scene.
Nick, can you describe for us the scene as it stands right now?
Well, there's not really huge groups of protesters right now.
You're kind of seeing some Trump supporters and supporters of Biden going back and forth, yelling some things at each other.
So I think we may heat up as we get closer to Trump's actual arrival at the courthouse.
I ran into some folks asking, you know, where Trump will go in.
There's some people from other countries here visiting Washington, and they're hoping to catch a glimpse of Trump going into the courthouse.
I haven't seen anything too crazy right now.
There is, you know, some characters of Trump running around here, some guys dressed in costumes.
Yelling things into the crowd, but it's mostly media.
There's tons of media here lined up at the front of the courthouse under tents doing their stand-ups and preparing for Trump's arrival.
And there's just a lot of talk back and forth about, you know, whether we'll get a glimpse of him when he comes in or if he's going to go through a back entrance or something.
We'll have to see and stand by.
We'll be here.
Typically in high-profile cases that I've covered there before, they bring them around the side entrance because it's closer to the street.
What is that flag that's right over your shoulder?
I can see a flag up, but I can't quite make it out.
So right behind me, there's some Trump flags.
There's one calling him the Godfather.
There's all kinds of uh, slogans on these, uh, flags of some of the Trump supporters that are here.
There's kind of like small groups of Trump supporters.
There was one group yelling at the guy who got arrested in Miami, who was dressed in the jumpsuit.
Uh, he was all over a social media.
He's a supporter of Biden's said he voted for Joe Biden.
They were arguing back and forth about Trump and, you know, know whether the charges uh are legitimate and you know they were fighting so there are a lot of cameras around them capturing that moment uh so we've seen some of that but i think some people expected you know bigger crowds of protests and we haven't really seen anything too major uh right now a lot of security there's a lot of there's not many people
i mean there's code pink you know they always show up and one of them is in a trump costume like a blow up you know Yeah, they're yelling things about the guys impersonating Trump in the costume.
But yeah, there's not large groups of liberal protesters, and I think some people expected that.
But it could also be because, Jack, as you know, there was some discussion of whether Trump would be virtual, whether he would come in over a video, and that actually didn't happen.
He's coming in person, so maybe some of those protesters decided, ah, we won't show up, 'cause he's gonna be coming in the video, but he's here.
We are up, and thank you so much, Nick.
We are up against the break here, but I want you to stand by.
I know it's a hot day out there.
We're gonna bring in some other guests, but we'll go back to you as this kicks off.
We know President Trump en route as we speak to that D.C.
courthouse.
Human events and Rav cameras are on the scene.
Thank you, Nick.
We'll be right back.
Stay tuned.
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Now, I want to bring in Rich Barris, the great Richard Barris, but at the same time we do have breaking news in terms of this Devin Archer testimony because the testimony was finally released today and it turns out this is from the great Paul Sperry, good friend Paul Sperry.
CNN and other networks got burned by Dan Goldman.
Dan Goldman said in all of those meetings that Archer testified that he was selling the illusion of access.
Well, guess what?
The word illusion, according to the transcript, came from Dan Goldman!
It didn't come from Devin Archer at all.
Look, we had MTG on the other day.
We said you can't trust these guys.
We said this was the Wall Street guy.
We said this was the guy Goldman, Sachs Goldman, right, representing Wall Street, that was coming from the impeachment.
He hasn't been in Congress before.
He was an apparatchik of the party, and guess what?
He lied to CNN, and we told you that in real time.
Rich Barris, I want to go get you in now.
I threw something up on Twitter that I'm getting a lot of blowback from the DeSantis camp and others on this, and I said, what Republicans need to be doing right now is rallying around Trump in the face of these charges.
Because it is separate from the primary, and people don't seem to understand that.
That if you are sniping at Trump right now, you look politically illiterate at best, collaborationist at worst.
The regime telling tens of millions they're not allowed to vote for a candidate.
You must understand what time it is.
And I followed it up.
It's the easiest W right now.
Even if you don't like him, even if you don't support him in the primary, show unity in the face of the adversary.
This is 101-level stuff.
Instead, they're running scared.
They're looking like cowards.
I actually think that other candidates would benefit.
That's why you saw Vivek there.
He understands how to read the room.
Rich, What is going on?
How can they not read the room on this?
You know, Jack, thanks for having me on as always.
You know, people like us have been talking about this for months.
The fact is they feel like they can't do what you're saying because they're going to get caught in a hypocrite trap.
And there will be leaks from donors and others of people like me who have been talking to people like me, which is where I've been getting this from for months.
They can't do that because the truth is they've been waiting for these indictments to be able to win the primary.
This has always been their strategy.
And what's going on with the Republican Party right now is you have people like that really trying to exploit something else that is happening.
And what it is, it's really simple.
A minority with an outsized voice.
Is trying to exploit the fear of others and they're holding the party hostage, which is like paralyzing the party from fighting back against this, right?
If this was Democrats, no matter who it is, they would have rallied behind this candidate.
They all would have spoke with one voice.
Other attorney generals around the country would have fought back with their own lawfare.
Congress would have been pulling on the purse strings.
Jack Smith would have been defunded by now.
Totally different.
You have a minority that can't let go, being a bunch of losers.
I really can't stress this enough.
People who are very good at one thing, losing elections.
And they've been holding on for years.
They hate Trump.
They hate MAGA.
And they think this is their moment.
This is their opportunity to try to wrestle control back of the party.
So that's why you're seeing this, like, incoherent political strategy come, you know, clashing with what you would think is just If you're in touch with the base, if you're in touch with the American people overall, you would think this is common sense.
Of course, it's a no-brainer.
This is how they should be reacting.
But they can't because of that dynamic.
So, Again, this is something I think we all expected to come.
There's not that much more that's going to come outside.
This is the big one, Jack.
So Trump's enemies, both outside in the Democratic Party and the administrative state, but also within his own party, are going to make a move.
Now's going to be the time.
And I just want to stress this real quick before I kick back to you.
This is an exploitation of fear.
They have always hoped, pinned a hope, that the Republican Party would become afraid.
And start to lose hope.
And they are trying to exploit desperation and hope.
This is not a message that wins in presidential elections.
It's not.
Republicans are pathologically allergic to winning.
It is a pathology, right?
Because there's no other explanation for this.
You've got the money right on the table there.
The free money is sitting right on the table.
Vivek seems to understand.
That guy's never even done politics before, but he seems to understand.
You show up, you cut a video, you go on your way, and you know what?
He'll go down to Nashville next.
Maybe he'll go to the 9-11 site because he's been talking about the 9-11 commission and saying he's got problems with that report, too.
The guy just understands where the free money is and he walks around and picks it up, but these Republicans are sitting there going, oh, we don't know how to win.
We don't know.
We're so worried.
So what do they do?
They end up sniping.
They end up sniping and saying, oh, this is Trump's fault.
I saw Bill Barr up there saying, this is all Trump's fault.
Trump is the one that led everyone into this.
He's the one to blame.
You can see the regime cracking down.
And even if you don't see it, even if you disagree with my analysis on it, my take on it, that's what the base sees.
That's what they are looking at.
That's what Republican voters are looking at.
They see it as the regime cracking down on Trump.
So, you're so obsessed with Trump, like you have fantasies about him, you're so obsessed with him, you can't view the fact that the people that are voting for you, or that you're trying to persuade to vote for you, don't look at it that way at all.
Rich, tell us, how does the base view this?
I mean, you're exactly right, and this is, you know, the New York Times poll that came out this week, The analysis of it is something people really, I mean, it was an article written by Nate Cohen that said why it's such a monumental task to beat Donald Trump.
That poll, Jack, mirrors our last national poll.
But if you get into it more, you know, three quarters of the Republican Party at least does not believe Donald Trump did anything wrong.
They feel this is a political persecution.
That is not a difficult leap from there, from having people who believe that, When your candidate comes out and takes snipes during Brett Baier interviews and, you know, we've seen it over and over again.
I can point to numerous interviews at this point.
They're social media influencers or taking snipes on Twitter and elsewhere.
It is not a big leap for those, the base, those voters that I was just talking about, at least 75%, to say, you know what?
I see what you're doing.
I see you now.
So you're going to put this You did it yourself, and it's not like the voters are drawing an unfair conclusion.
They're going to put you somewhat in the same category as those they view that are coming after Trump.
And even if, for some way, you're able to maybe Well, you know what?
By the way, they have an expression for this in the crypto world that I find very effective here because it's called FUD, right?
The FUD strategy.
I'm sure you've heard of FUD, right?
This is Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
So when you're employing FUD, it's you are spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
You are evoking it intentionally in order to put a competitor at a disadvantage.
The FUD factor.
So this is always done by competitors to spread fear, to spread uncertainty, to spread doubt.
And they're using it very effectively, rather than simply turning around and saying, we are up against a regime, we all need to fight this regime.
And instead, you're spreading, you're sniping it, you're spreading these little seeds, you're planting little seeds of doubt.
It's so obvious.
It's so obvious.
Yeah, but again, this has been, and people need to understand this, if you rewound the tape, folks, six months, you'll see people like us warning that this is where we're going to end up.
And those very same people now who are doing that.
Claiming that that was not the strategy.
This has been the strategy, but this is basically their last hurrah.
This is the January 6th indictment.
We have not seen the polls, even general, I'm talking about general election polls.
We have not seen the former president's support deteriorate after Alvin Bragg.
Not after the first round of indictments with Mar-a-Lago.
Not after the second round of indictments with Mar-a-Lago.
So, we're actually going to be entering the field soon, in a couple of days, and this will be our first national poll since the January 6th indictment came down.
I gotta tell you, Jack, we're a long way away from the very first time that we posed the question about January 6th to the electorate.
Immediately when we did, I'm talking about before all of these revelations, before the Tucker tapes, before so much, the country was still relatively split on whether media and Democrats were making way more of this than it really was.
And now a year and a half later, big difference.
Huge difference.
Look, I'm going to tell you right now, you are not going to beat Donald Trump using a FUD strategy against him because MAGA has got diamond hands!
They got diamond hands, okay?
Yes, some of the paper handies are going to go, but when you are showing a bear market, There's nobody who's got stronger diamond hands than MAGA.
And the MAGA movement, the movement that I've been part of, that I've seen for, what, seven, eight years now?
MAGA's got diamond hands, and that's exactly what these people are missing.
They're missing the boat.
They're misreading the room.
They're running against what they should be running towards.
They're showing weakness instead of showing strength.
It's ridiculous.
We've got a bunch of other stuff.
Rich, as the show goes down, I hear there's protesters that are now arriving.
Stay tuned.
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Now, Rich Barris, I want to ask you another question, talking about polls, because We're looking at the situation with DeSantis.
There was an interesting piece of breaking news that came out last night where it seemed like DeSantis had said that he will debate Gavin Newsom, which I think is very interesting because, remind me if I'm wrong, but it felt like a couple of weeks ago he said that he would do no such thing.
What changed?
It's even more than that.
And just so the folks at home understand, the general conventional wisdom is that when you're ahead or when you're, you know, you're in a delicate moment, you don't want to drop the ball.
You don't want to give your opponents an opportunity to hurt you.
So leaders and winners don't debate if they don't have to, right?
So if you go back months ago when the polls in the primary were, you know, closer, a lot closer than they were now, DeSantis had no interest in debating Gavin Newsom.
It was beneath him and it's not a serious, uh, Now that he's 40 points behind, he wants to debate Gavin Newsom because he needs some kind of a desperation play to get attention.
Here's the irony of this, or really the hypocrisy of it.
He refused to debate Newsom before, but his supporters and his surrogates have been hammering on the former president for not wanting to participate in the upcoming first Presidential debate that they're going to have at the end of the summer.
So Trump is way ahead.
And as a leader, you don't really feel that you should put yourself out there to make mistakes.
They have been hammering him over that for months, Jack.
And the truth is when DeSantis was in a stronger position, he wanted to do no such thing either.
So now he needs attention.
Now he needs a course correction.
Now he needs to get the headlines.
Now he needs to do something brash because he really has no other moves to make.
He can't hurt himself anymore.
Can you be down more than 40 points?
Maybe.
But it already is a dire situation.
So now, again, it looks like a political stunt.
It looks like hypocrisy.
You know, Gavin Newsom, I know a lot of people make hay over this, Jack, but the sitting president is very difficult to topple.
He's not going to be a political stunt.
He's not going to be a political stunt.
Even with all of this Devin Archer stuff, it would take even more to remove him from the ballot.
So I think it's a lot of hype.
And again, it's an attempt to score political points.
They're trying to gain traction on a guy who's just been dominating the field.
And it's risky, because like I said, it really does show hypocrisy here, brother.
Well not only that, so basically what you're saying is that this isn't coming from a position of strength, this is coming from being backed up against the wall and showing desperation because you don't have any other moves.
So that's when you finally take the deal with the devil, the hair gel Hitler of San Francisco.
Going in and saying, all right, I'll sit with you.
But here's the thing.
Now, Rich, let me ask you this, just in terms of style.
Because, you know, I understand a lot of people, a lot of us, don't like Gavin Newsom's politics.
I certainly don't.
But he's been in the game for a minute.
That guy's a very formidable debater.
I've even said, and I remember this, when he went on Sean Hannity, what was that, a couple of weeks ago?
I thought he ate Hannity's lunch.
I thought he absolutely ate his lunch.
He's a slick guy.
And this is why Team DeSantis, three months ago, didn't want to debate him.
Because the truth is, DeSantis is not a good debater.
He's not slick.
He's not good at retail.
He's not someone who connects naturally, you know, on a human level with voters.
And Gavin Newsom, if you're on the right and you don't like his policies, that's totally separate from what you and I are talking about right now.
He's very good with talking with people.
He's very good at articulating his position, even if you don't think It's a wise or sustainable position, political position to have.
That's irrelevant.
This guy is very good on his feet.
Ron DeSantis is not.
So it is coming from a place of weakness and desperation that they're willing to do this now, or at least he's signaling that he's willing to do it because, again, months ago was the right call not to, Jack.
It's risky.
And especially it's risky, period.
But, you know, when you're looking at two totally different personalities, this makes it even worse and makes it even more risky.
And by the way, this is coming from a guy who has been saying for weeks now, and that meaning me, that Trump should debate.
If he doesn't want to go into the Murdoch trap, that's fine.
You could get Tucker and you could invite the other candidates.
But, you know, voters tell us overwhelmingly they want to see debates.
They understand Trump's position, but he's entertaining.
They like it.
His own supporters, a lot of them, want to see him debate because they think that he's going to wipe the floor with these guys, which he will.
I mean, let's be honest.
I mean, to pass this prologue, these other candidates don't really stand a chance against him, Jack.
It's going to be, you know, a mixed martial arts kind of beat down.
I mean, so I actually, again, this is, I understand the political or conventional political wisdom of saying front runner, don't debate.
But here I actually think that he should.
Well, let me just do it on your own terms.
Let me actually ask you to follow up on that, because when you're saying front runner, don't debate, currently the front runner is Donald Trump.
Now I've gone on with Don Jr.
We're going to be having this debate tonight on thoughtcrime with myself and Charlie Kirk.
Look, I'm on the pro-Trump debate side, and here's why.
Because the normal rules don't necessarily apply to him.
This is how he built his brand in politics, was those early debates, 15-16, and it's also, by the way, A way to reach out, break out of sort of the left-right media ecosystems that we all live in now, and you can actually reach out to independent voters, you can reach out to those center voters, because it gives him the ability to show the contrast between Donald Trump and a typical Republican.
You can't do that when you're only playing off of a Democrat.
What do you think?
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
I know we're on the, you know, you and I are in the minority on this position, but I do think that Donald Trump is a different kind of guy.
Hey, they listen.
They listen to the show.
They listen to the show.
He's a different kind of candidate, Jack, and the new people that we've been polling and speaking with that you would never think would be Trump supporters.
And again, I've had a theory about this that I think these indictments actually make him relatable to these people.
They are true independents.
They're lower propensity voters.
You entertain them.
You bring them on.
You get to know you a little bit.
You know, there's no other way to put this.
DeSantis and others are going to look like The PAC candidates, the donor candidates, the typical politicians, and he's not.
We spend all of our time obsessing over the independent suburban woman, when in truth, that's not really the independent vote anymore.
It's not the persuadable independent vote.
In order for any Republican to win a presidential election in the modern era, they have got to bring in these other people, these other normies, That is the kind of entertainment that they'll tune in for, Jack.
They won't be able to contain themselves.
They'll want to see it.
And they do.
Because I'm telling you, we've been pulling on this for a while.
People want to see it.
It's almost like politics is boring.
Can we be honest?
Most average Uh, politics, you know, to the common person, the average person, is extremely boring.
Donald Trump is anything but, and I think they are looking forward to it.
Well, speaking of, speaking of boring, Rich, um, speaking of something that's not boring, um, I want to actually go down here because we have, we actually, I'm told we have Natalie Winters, uh, right now on the scene, Washington, D.C.
She's there.
Protesters are now showing up outside of the courthouse.
Natalie, do we have you?
Hi, I think you should be able to hear me.
I hear you just fine.
Loud and clear, 5 by 5.
Natalie, tell us what's going on.
Are protesters showing up there?
They've already shown up, and I think they've been here for a pretty long time.
Obviously, Trump is en route, but we've already seen a pretty, I would say, sizable demonstration and, of course, sizable media presence, really from both sides.
I was just getting my ear, I would say, blown off by some far-left people who were screaming about, paradoxically, election integrity.
But, of course, there's a lot of Trump orders, a lot of MAGA hats.
You can probably see behind me, there's some huge Trump flags flying.
And interesting to note, people may recall from the Miami arraignment, the individual who was dressed like a convict in the striped outfit with the weighted ball on his feet, who actually jumped in front of Trump's motorcade as he was leaving, pinned to the floor by Secret Service and police officers.
I actually saw him here.
Of course, a huge press gaggle around him, talking to him.
So just curious that he's here.
But in terms of actual security and a perimeter, There's not really, I would say, a sizable fence.
The barricade around the courthouse is more, I would say, erected by the actual media outlets, the cameras, the journalists who are there doing live hits.
And like I said, I've been at the Miami arraignment.
I've obviously been at a lot of these events.
I would say this is one of the larger media presences that I've ever seen.
This is huge.
Natalie, let's say bye to Rich real quick.
You stay right there.
Be safe, by the way.
I don't want these protesters getting up in your grill too much.
No bomb threats yet.
Some other guys out there, no bomb threats.
Natalie, please stay safe while you're there.
We'll come back to you in just a moment.
We've got a break coming up.
Rich Barris, thanks again, man.
Tell everybody where they can go, how they can follow you, where they can get all the access to People's Funded.
Best place to follow us, Jack, is peoplespundit.locals.com.
That's the central hub for everything we do.
Thanks for having me, as always, brother.
Rich, always a pleasure, always a pleasure.
Okay, so, folks, we are looking now at this arraignment.
Donald Trump, down there, on his way in to the courthouse, on his way in.
The protesters, which you can see if they can put it back up there on the screen, there it is, the protesters are in force.
They're out.
And this regime is out for blood.
In fact, we've got word from a human event source just before live today, and we're gonna have more on this later, but I'll say, I'll break it now for the live audience, that Jack Smith, he isn't done.
He's sending out subpoenas to staffer after staffer after staffer.
There, in the Trump campaign, junior level staffers, mid-level staffers.
He's going after everyone.
Because this bloodsucker is out for blood.
Well, here's the problem.
We're not giving any.
Because MAGA has diamond hands.
And we ain't going anywhere.
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All right, Jack Posobiec here live Washington DC as Natalie Winters and others are there down on the street keeping an eye on the protesters.
President Trump working his way to the courthouse now coming down from Bedminster in New Jersey.
I want to bring in now we've got the great Chris Ruffo joins us to describe Really, basically, how we got to this point that we're seeing today because his new book, America's Cultural Revolution, he walks us through the idea that these institutions have been infiltrated.
And a day when the Department of Justice is indicting the leading presidential candidate of the opposition right in Washington, D.C., in America's capital, I couldn't think of a better possible way to tee up Chris's book.
Chris, how did we get here?
Well, it is part of a 50-year campaign, and the radical left in the late 1960s devised a strategy called the Long March to the Institutions.
They knew that they could never get a majority of voters through the democratic process, so they said, we're going to burrow into the institutions.
Beginning with universities and schools and corporate HR departments and then now even institutions that were formerly kind of more right-leaning like the FBI, the military.
And then we're going to bring these ideologies in.
We're going to impose them from the top down.
We're going to squash any kind of dissent.
And then, of course, you see its cruel culmination in all of these indictments that are partisan, are political in nature.
They no longer have to hide their ideologies.
They've revealed them during that summer of George Floyd, and they're continuing to flex up until today.
I mean, you really look at it, and it's amazing because conservatives have this reflexive, like almost a knee-jerk response.
They want to defend the military.
We want to defend the FBI.
We want to defend law enforcement.
But I think as we've seen over the last few years, these have been the institutions, this is like the pinnacle of it all, and I saw this towards the end when I was in the IC, that suddenly Because remember, I was in the Intel community as Trump won and as he was taking office, and I saw the, I would say, the beginnings of this pathogen-style response to his victory, that all of a sudden it was like the system had to turn against him.
And I remember sitting in my office there in Navy Intelligence going, what's going on, guys?
I thought we were supposed to be here to talk about, you know, the rise of China and some of these other threats that are out there in the world.
I was focused on the Chinese Communist Party, but suddenly that wasn't the top priority.
How did this happen, Chris?
It's quite interesting.
In the book, I tell part of the story of Richard Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover.
They mobilized the FBI to disrupt, dismantle, infiltrate, and then imprison many of those left-wing radical revolutionaries, whether it was the Black Panther Party, the Black Liberation Army, the Weather Underground.
They decimated those revolutionary groups.
Now, what is the DOJ doing?
We know that they went after parents that were protesting at school boards opposing CRT.
We know that they're working hand in hand with social media companies to censor people who question some of the Biden policies on the pandemic.
And then now this kind of military apparatus, you see that they're only promoting people that are lockstep in with DEI ideology.
That's something that I hear over and over.
They're teaching CRT at West Point.
And so I think conservatives are rightly bewildered by these institutions that they loved, that they trusted, that did the great work of the past of Dismantling some of the left-wing revolutionaries who sought to overthrow the country.
Now it almost appears that they're working hand in hand with the furthest factions of the left-wing ideologies.
And I think conservatives are torn between their traditional loyalties and then all of the evidence they're seeing in front of them.
Right, and I think that's right.
This is something where, and I'll just put it mildly, so you've got these sort of the generational fight that's going on right now.
And I think this is something that, you know, if you're a millennial conservative or a Gen Z conservative, I think you see it more.
But if you're one of the baby boomers, if you're Gen X, I think there's still this sort of knee-jerk response to assume that the FBI and these law enforcement agencies, particularly the military, are still this, like, World War II-style, 1940s, 1950s-style government because it's actually been changing.
This is something to talk about in the fourth turning.
It's actually been changing, but they're still locked into that view of where it was in their youth.
Yeah, that's right.
I think it's like that old idea that your musical tastes solidify in your teenage years and then you remain a fan of that kind of music for the rest of your life.
The same thing is with your formative experiences about these institutions.
If you grew up watching the heroism of World War II, hearing those stories from your father or then your grandfather, you have an idea of what the military is at its highest expression.
But if you actually talk to guys who are in units right now, they'll tell you that, you know, whether it's Biden's kind of phony extremism stand down, whether it's the white privilege trainings that they go through, or these ridiculous figures like Mark Milley talking about analyzing their white race.
Meanwhile, they're not winning any wars.
They have a very different view.
It's unfortunately and very sadly a kind of cynical view, but I actually think that it's an accurate view of what's happening.
And I know a lot of guys that are my age and are late 30s that have served, and they say, I wouldn't tell my kids to join today.
And that to me is just a tragedy.
It's something very sad, but something that we should be quite honest about.
Yeah, I've thought about it myself getting out of the Navy, and I've said, look, if you want to go in, and I've got family members that are still in, I've got a cousin who just joined, actually, and I say, look, go in, but go in to get some kind of skill that's marketable in the private sector.
So go in, get some skills, get some education, college, OJT, you know, on-the-job training, and then get out, right?
So use it to your benefit.
Get one of those education bills so you can use it for your own, you know, Post 9-11 GI Bill, etc.
But if you're just going to go in and put on a uniform and think it's Call of Duty style, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You definitely don't want to be joining with that kind of mindset.
So Chris, what's the solution, right?
We've identified the problem.
It's like that scene, you know, the first half of every House episode, you have to identify, right, you know, the disease.
So we've identified it.
What do we do now?
Where do we go from here?
Well, there's two methods that we need to pursue simultaneously.
First is that people need to get back involved at the local level.
You know, parents need to show up at school board meetings.
They need to run for those school board seats.
They need to recapture their local institutions and really take ownership again over those institutions, making sure the values of those places are aligned with them and with all the people in the community.
But second, we need politicians that are much more sophisticated on culture war issues.
We need politicians that are willing to fight And that are willing to use democratic and legislative power to reshape, reform, and sometimes abolish institutions that are no longer serving their purpose.
We need to get aggressive on these things, especially as we're looking at the federal bureaucracy.
We need massive changes, we need massive reforms, and we need to actually put a lot of people out of business that are really not doing the service that they should be doing.
I have a list.
You know, I've said like people have asked me to say, Oh, do you ever want to go into a ministry?
I just want to be the guy who goes in and fires people, right?
I'll deliver the news.
I'll be out of the pink slips.
I'll just walk around.
I'll just walk around.
I can tell you specific offices within the eye.
We do not need 17 intelligence agencies.
That's the that's top of my list.
We do not need 17 because when you have 17 agencies, You have so many redundancies in place.
The British understood this after World War II.
The British used to have, you know, it's MI5 and MI6, they used to have out to MI15.
But you know what they did after the war?
They said, we don't have the money nor the manpower for this, so they shrunk it all the way down to one agency for internal, one agency for external.
Because when these sinecures go in, these federal bureaucrats, and the whole thing is run by the federal bureaucracy.
And a lot of this went back to the Obama years, really exploded under Clinton as well.
But I just think people don't understand it.
Chris, congratulations on the success of the book.
It is tearing up the charts.
Amazon, others.
By the way, how's New York Times treating you guys?
I know they've been like shunning everybody else.
Is that the same treatment you're getting or what?
Well, you know, they couldn't deny the success of the book.
So I did debut on the New York Times bestseller list.
And actually, to my surprise, the New York Times had me publish an op-ed, a guest essay, in the pages of the Times advocating for a polishing DEI department.
And so that was kind of a thing, and I think it's a big change.
You know, Tom Cotton, of course, at his famous op-ed, they fired the editor.
It was a total pandemonium.
Things are changing, even Rufo is on the New York Times making his case, and so I guess nature is healing and maybe even the Times is moving back to the center.
Perhaps, perhaps, but the beatings will continue until the corrections ensue.
Folks, go out, race out right now, buy yourself a copy of America's Cultural Revolution because if you want to understand, How we got to the point where we're at today.
Regardless of what your views are of the primary, we don't want the institutions coming in and putting their thumb on the scale.
Thank you so much for joining us here, Humanities.
Alright folks, we are staying tuned.
We've got Natalie Winters who's still down there on the scene.
You can see the protesters arriving.
I'm told that we may be able to also have another special guest joining us in the next segment down there.
We're going to see if we can get him on at the same time down from the street.
But the protesters arriving.
President Trump en route.
His maid down from Bedminster.
But these people don't understand that we got Rufo out there with his understanding of the Cultural Revolution.
We've shown you how the Marxists have walked through the institutions.
We're going to fix this thing by fighting back.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Alright, Jack Pacific Live, Washington, D.C.
I want to go down to the steps of the courthouse itself, where we've got a very special guest, two special guests joining, a surprise guest out of the mix.
We've got not only Natalie Winters, but she is joined by the great Julie Kelly herself.
Julie, walk us through your theory.
Thank you so much for flying to D.C., for joining us here.
Walk us through your theory that you've read into this indictment.
You're reading between the lines.
You think another superseding indictment will be coming just as they did in the Mar-a-Lago case.
Walk us through it.
Yes, absolutely.
First, I want to say Natalie is not taller than I am, because that would be quite a feat.
She's on a box, I'm on a lower box.
You know, Jack, I'm usually the tall one in the group, so I just have to clarify that.
It's true.
It's true.
So, yes.
Yes.
So, we're here, unfortunately, on a day that, Jack, you and I have talked about.
I think I've predicted this for over a year, covering the January 6th prosecution.
Donald Trump was indicted on four counts Tuesday.
By Special Prosecutor Jack Smith, Merrick Garland's handpicked special counsel.
And so we've got four counts pending right now.
He'll be arraigned at four o'clock.
I'm sure he will be pleading not guilty.
And then the judge, Judge Tanya Chetkin, an Obama appointee who is one of the harshest judges on January 6th defendants.
Has been assigned to this case and then she will set the schedule moving forward So he faces obstruction of an official proceeding which is the most common felony count slaps against more than 300 January 6th defendants conspiracy to obstruct deprivation of rights and then of course conspiring to perpetrate fraud against the United States and Those are the current charges.
And Jack, I think I posted this on Twitter also in a column on my Substack.
This 45-page indictment is basically a cut-and-paste job from the January 6th Select Committee report that was issued in December.
You see a lot of the same accusations talking about the fake Electoral College stunt, A lot of it was just lifted from that report, put in this criminal indictment.
So of course Jack Smith will be here today with his team of prosecutors, so that will be the first clash In this battle.
But Jack, this will not be the only indictment in this case.
First of all, there are six co-conspirators who are cited in this indictment.
And we know pretty much who they are for the most part.
Well, I'm pretty sure I know all of them.
Right.
Well, you know, I hate to name names because these people are under attack as it is.
Oh no, I mean like I personally know all of them, more than likely.
Right.
Yes, I'm sure you do.
Let's just hope you don't get named as a co-conspirator because he could sweep up anyone at this point.
Well, they'd love to.
They'd love to.
Yes, they would.
So what the DOJ does, and what we just saw Jack Smith do last Friday, is add a superseding indictment in a classified documents case.
So a superseding indictment overrides basically the initial indictment.
What he did last week is add a new co-defendant, co-conspirator, and then new charges to Donald Trump.
That is exactly what will happen in this indictment.
My suspicion is Jack Smith will supersede this indictment probably three times.
That's actually huge.
Now, what would the timeline for that be?
We saw in the Mar-a-Lago case, it looked like it was a couple of months in between.
along with several other of his former aides, allies, and attorneys.
That's actually, now, what would the timeline for that be?
We saw in the Mar-a-Lago case, it looked like it was a couple of months in between.
Do you have any indication of what Jack Smith's timeline would be for that here?
Well, his timeline probably will be the next set of bad news for Joe and Hunter Biden.
So, you know, you see how this timing works out.
As soon as something bad comes out about the Biden family crime racket, then all of a sudden Jack Smith swoops in with an indictment or a target letter or a superseding indictment or this indictment.
So, you know, Jack Smith is a longtime creature of the Department of Justice.
He has ties.
Of course, to the Obama administration.
He was head of the public integrity section for four and a half years under DOJ.
He worked for two and a half years alongside Lisa Monaco, who is, of course, the deputy attorney general right now.
So Jack Smith is, you know, another Democratic operative disguised as a federal prosecutor, and he understands what his marching orders are.
So as soon as more heat gets turned up on Biden or the Democrats or whatever happens, I expect Jack Smith to swoop in with some more concocted, fabricated, unprecedented charges.
Alright, everyone needs to go read juliekelly.substack.com.
That's where all the breaking is there.
I want to turn now, if we can, to Natalie Winters.
Natalie, the protesters, we can see there's a split screen up so I can see from the other camera.
It looks like they're beginning to mass up across the street there.
We know President Trump is about an hour out of the actual arraignment.
Give us the color, what's going on down there?
Sure, well, since I last joined you, I think it definitely has grown a little bit in size, certainly in volume.
There's a lot of people playing music.
We heard the song F. Donald Trump playing.
But besides that, it's primarily, you know, positive Trump flags, I will say.
And this is just for my sort of primary source boots on the ground being here.
I think there is an interesting juxtaposition.
It seems like most of the pro-Trump supporters who are here are just people like me and you and their MAGA hats here to show support for the candidate, the president, the man that they love.
So much, because he's been taking on the deep state really like no one else can, whereas the left-wing demonstrators, the anti-Trump ones, you know, they all have the signs that look like they were mass-printed, being paid for by someone who knows.
I'm sure his initials are either, you know, GS or something else, George Soros, of course.
But there is, I think, more of a coordinated element to some of the left-wing agitators, to be euphemistic.
But the left-wing people here, Like I said, they all have the, you know, nice clean-cut looking posters, whereas the Trump side of things is a little more, I would say, organic, from-the-heart, grassroots.
And it's just absolutely horrific that a day like this would come.
We've got about one minute left.
Can I just get one quick line from you, Natalie, and then if Julie's still there, we'll get one quick line from her about I don't think Julie wants to be on your show anymore.
She's done.
You guys are breaking kayfabe like crazy right now.
I think people should just read Donald Trump's Newsweek op-ed, which is wonderful, where he said, if we don't destroy and take down the deep state, they're going to do that to us.
That's what I would say, to quote Donald Trump, Julie.
It's time to rally.
Your closing words.
Oh, my closing words.
Just quick closing words.
Closing words.
This is just the beginning.
That's my closing words.
This is just the beginning.
And I'm taller than her.
I'm taller than her.
This kayfabe has completely thrown out the window here today, ladies.
Completely thrown out the window.
Thank you for being there.
I know it's a hot day.
We've all got a little bit of a case of the giggles, but at the end of the day, we have to understand that our republic is on the line.
