EPISODE 463: SPECIAL REPORT FROM BUDAPEST WITH TANYA TAY
On today’s episode of Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec is joined by none other than Tanya Tay Posobiec for a special report from Budapest, Hungary. While overseas, the Posobiec family bore witness to a country and culture that emphasizes strong families and a resistance to woke ideology, a stark difference from what they’re used to in the United States. Jack and Tanya share their hopes for the US and what lessons we Americans can adopt and implement from their experience in Hungary. All this...
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The Pozo Daily Brief One thing that makes our country an important place.
The fact that Hungary in effect is an incubator where the conservative politics of the future are being experimented.
Hungary is the place where they don't, they didn't only talk about defeating progressive liberals and didn't only talk about a conservative Christian political pivot, but they actually did it.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to a very special edition, live from Budapest, Hungary, of Human Events Daily, May 5th, 2023, Anno Domini.
And we're joined by the lovely and talented, for the very first time on The Daily Show, Mrs. Tanya Tepesovic.
I feel so honored and humbled to finally make it on the list of Mr. Pesovic, where he Finally gave me the pleasure of joining him here in the studio.
Well, the road to the studio, as it is, like the backpack studio kind of deal when we're overseas.
But no, it dawned on me that we hadn't actually had you on on the Daily Show.
We've had you on on the Sunday specials a couple of times, but I realized you hadn't been on the Daily Show before.
And I said, you know what?
Because we're in Hungary right now.
And this is our third time here.
Our first time here was on our honeymoon.
So we started in Israel, but then bounced around Europe a bit and we ended up in Budapest.
And we have come back here for CPAC, but one of the things that always keeps bringing us back is because of how amazing Hungary is.
And in particular, the city of Budapest.
So we actually got to drive, last year when we were here, we drove all over the country And this time we said, all right, that's enough driving.
We're going to stay right here in Budapest.
But when you're here in the city and when you're in this country, what's amazing about it is you feel so incredibly safe.
And this thing with the subway brawl, New York City that went on while we were here, it's like, The type of street violence that goes on in the United States, it just, it doesn't exist here.
And I'll ask you because we have the boys here, they're with my mom right now, but do you feel that kind of danger when you're going around the town right now?
Do you feel like that's something that could happen the same way?
Now, when we go to Philadelphia, New York, D.C., we're always kind of looking over our shoulder.
Have you felt that way at all, even at night here?
So we have two of our little boys here and one of the things that we have them do, they run out to the playground that is almost, it's a walking distance from the place where we're staying.
Just totally dachshunds, totally dachshunds.
We taught them all the road directions, you look left and right, your basics.
Left, right, left again.
And then they The fact that makes me so comfortable is, I guess, that they're not the only kids that you see.
When you're usually visiting a major city, it's mostly all the businessmen and, you know, professionals here.
The streets are packed with mothers with little kids, with couples pushing the strollers.
It feels amazing to be in that.
And I'm actually going to bring this up.
I'm going to bring this up and we've got a couple of minutes left in the segment, but We flew out of JFK on our way to Europe and we stopped by Coney Island beforehand.
That trip to Coney Island was interesting.
It was cool that we got to go to Coney Island, but it was a little bit weird too, wasn't it?
It was.
So it was my first time visiting the Coney Island and I've heard so much about it.
I was like, wow, finally I get to meet famous Connie Island, seeing what all the chat is all about.
And we get there and I kind of look at Jack and I'm like, are we there?
Are you sure?
Because it didn't Well, the first thing we saw was two guys, two guys getting arrested right on the street, right in front of Cyclone Stadium, right there.
There's two guys and they're mouthing off at the cops, they're screaming at them, and the cops turn them around.
And then a few guys, like a couple homeless guys, and I just I remember grabbing both of my kids, like holding their hands very tight, just like, just stay close to mommy, you guys.
Don't run off.
And this, by the way, this was the middle of the day.
This was like noon.
It was like the afternoon.
So we got there like super early and drove up from DC.
And then we were, when we went to Nathan's, we even afterwards, we're sitting outside, we're eating some hot dogs.
And there was this like homeless guy just sitting a couple tables away, like, Eyeing up the kids, um, you know, rolling, uh, rolling drugs, just sitting right down the table and the kids were running around chasing the pigeons.
But whenever they got close to this guy, you know, you remember what I'm talking about, right?
Whenever they got close to this guy, he kept, he kept like leaning towards them and giving those really weird stares.
So I, you know, went over there and had to get them away from him because it's, you never know what's going to happen in one of those situations.
Now this was, I'll remind you about something else.
When we walked on the Broadwalk, we got to the beach finally, and one of the first things our son said, he looked at Jack and said, Daddy, why is there so much trash?
Why isn't it in a trash can?
And he just kept talking about it and we looked at each other.
It's like there wasn't much to say to the little kid.
He's like, you're right, Jack-Jack.
You need to put all the trash in a trash can.
What it was, you could actually tell it was trash from, but it was it was trash that was actually Set up in different sections, almost as if it was from people who had been staying on the beach, but essentially it was, it was homeless people that were living on the beach.
And that was, that was their, like, like that guy's area, that guy's spot on the beach.
And so you could tell that there were just different, you know, when someone's been living somewhere, you can see it right in front of the boardwalk.
People just living on the beach and apparently in New York, that's something that you're allowed to do now here in Budapest.
I haven't seen a single homeless person.
I haven't seen any of that type of crime.
There isn't a crime.
There aren't accidents.
It's clean.
And we've just been having an amazing trip.
And I know we're going to break here in a second, but the main thing that I want to say to people is, especially in the United States, is it doesn't have to be that way.
It doesn't have to be that way.
Stay tuned.
We'll be right back here, Human Events Daily, with lovely and talented Tanya Tate.
Jack and Tiny Tate here.
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Hungary elected a new president, and she's a pro-life, pro-family Christian.
President-elect Katalin Novak previously served as Hungary's Minister of Families.
Novak helped implement pro-family policies that encourage Hungarians to have more babies.
Working Hungarian women who have four children no longer pay income taxes.
They get three years off from work to care for their babies.
Couples can get a $30,000 interest-free loan to help buy a house.
And repayment goes down with each child.
And after three kids, the debt is forgiven.
The result?
Marriages are now up 83%.
Divorce is at a 60-year low.
And the abortion rate has dropped.
President-elect Novak explains.
The most important outcomes of our 10-year family-friendly or family-oriented policy is that the abortions dropped by 41%.
And I think that we still have work to be done in this matter because we have to point out the value of life.
And we're back.
So, the last segment we were talking about the safety here in Budapest, but last night we actually had the honour and privilege of being able to attend a talk at a private dinner with the president of Hungary, Mrs. Katalin Novak.
And now I actually have been able to interview her about five years ago when I was still at OAN.
And back then she was still the minister of families.
And she was putting forward a new plan all about her ideas to increase the birth rate in Hungary.
Now, back then, Hungary's birth rate, the same as in so many other Western countries, was already facing a decline and they were actually in a birth deficit because they were below replacement level for their population.
That means more deaths than births were occurring every year.
That means your population actually gets smaller.
This is true of the United States.
This is true for Japan.
This is true for most of Western Europe.
They are below replacement level.
What an inspiration this woman was to me.
bit differently because the United States, what they do is they try to open, it's open borders.
Whereas here in Hungary, they've decided to do it a little bit differently.
And I believe someone even took notes.
What an inspiration this woman was to me.
And not only because she is the first female president of Hungary, not only because she is a conservative, not only because she is a wife of 21 years.
It was actually her wedding anniversary yesterday.
She announced it publicly, but also because with all that, she's also a mother of three kids.
And so she's a mother of three kids.
And one of the greatest things she mentioned was that she took a six-year maternity leave.
for each one of her kids.
So it was two years per kid.
And with all that, it showed that being a mother in no way made her sacrifice a career because obviously she's achieved one of the greatest career ambitions, if you'd like to say that. it showed that being a mother in no way made
So she took six years off of work when her kids were little and then went back into work in politics and rose through all the way up to become the first female president of Hungary.
And then she actually said at the dinner, it was so great, she said to all those people who say, You can't do it.
You can't have both.
What are you going to say to me?
Because I did my time as a stay-at-home mom, and now I'm the president.
And the bigger... Boom!
Boom!
Let me say boom!
But the main thing is, she said, if I had to choose, I would do it all over again.
And I would never give up those six years and do something else instead.
Well, tell us a little bit about her plan because you do have the notes on that as well.
What is this family plan?
Some of the great policies that she put forward are truly a great example for countries like America.
And one of them was actually a student forgiveness loan that we talk so much about in the U.S.
Only in the U.S.
everybody is just asking to get the loans forgiven, period.
In Hungary, they have a little different policy.
So if you're a mother, so they're encouraging all the females to get their education.
If you're a mother of two kids, you get your loan reduced by half.
If you're a mother of three kids, they completely forgive your student loan.
So not only do they encourage women to go into education, they encourage women to have kids afterwards because an educated woman is a mother who will then teach her kids to be smart future citizens of the country.
And then what happens if you get four kids?
And if you go a step further and have four kids, you will have no income tax for life.
No income tax for life if you have four kids and you have to stay married, right?
You have to stay married.
A little caveat, but with those policies... I'll tell you, it's a big caveat, sweetheart.
A little caveat!
A little caveat.
Show that ring.
Show that ring.
A little caveat.
A little caveat.
Okay.
All right.
With commitment.
It's just, just, you know, it's just a little, um, But think about what that does for family formation.
No income tax.
Incentive for kids.
Student loan forgiveness.
By the way, there's also stipends for larger houses.
There are stipends for automobiles.
Being able to get a larger automobile because they realize that's something that you need for kids.
And what's the first thing?
I know we have time for a break.
But we're almost up time for a break.
What was the main thing that you saw them building all around Budapest?
We saw kids playgrounds at least three minute walk from each other.
There's one huge playground that we were staying at.
The one up the street is under construction.
You turn the corner, there's another one.
And you see those playgrounds packed with so many kids running around, chasing each other.
You love to see it.
And in addition, so divorce rate has completely tanked.
Marriage rates are up.
Obviously, the fertility rate is having the highest increase of any country in Europe.
But check this out.
Without any legislation passed, because they've made it an incentive to have children The abortion rate has also collapsed because they're incentivizing people to have children.
So even without having to go and pass legislation, they've actually found a way to reduce the abortion rate itself.
It's amazing.
We have to come up for a break.
We'll be right back here at Human Events Daily with Time and Tape.
It's over.
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I believe the prime minister's new definition of woke cancel culture as a virus carries some potential, actually, on which we can build.
I think he's right about that because we've seen this in the United States where the virus, and I would actually refer to it, I do refer to it on my podcast on Human Events Daily and at humanevents.com where I'm the senior editor.
We refer to it as a virus of the mind.
A virus of the mind.
Where you and as the previous speaker mentioned, it is a virus that affects your view or your ability to understand and interact with reality.
And because you reject reality so forcefully, this virus then causes you to act out in ways to support institutions, to support laws, to support false truths, in order to try to reform reality
You know, the safety, the family policies, things that we can certainly need back in the United States and certainly learn from right here in Hungary are amazing.
We just came from Poland, got to visit my family, and Poland has many of the same policies, so much of the same public safety.
When I was speaking at CPAC and the theme of CPAC is no woke zone or that wokeness is essentially a virus of the mind, and I believe that's the best way to put it, where you reject reality itself.
And let me just ask you as a mom, you know, you weren't speaking at CPAC, but you've seen this agenda in the U.S.
that spreads everywhere.
Predominantly targeting children every time you go into a library, every time you go into a bookstore, all the kids books, it's it's all the agenda, the alphabet agenda, alphabet agenda, all over the place, trans agenda.
And you notice, have you seen that at all in Hungary anywhere?
We have been in Hungary for a couple days and have not seen a single sign of anybody with a mild virus.
How many flags?
Any pride flags?
No pride flags.
Zero.
No rainbow flags.
No rainbow-colored clothing.
None of that.
All the kids seem to be running around.
You know, the boys and the girls.
I have not heard any they and them pronounced.
Seems very normal.
And coming from the U.S., it almost made me lean to Jack and say, Are you seeing this?
It's a culture shock.
It's hard to believe at this point that I would actually see something normal and question it now.
I'm in disbelief after seeing what's going on in America.
It's so far.
I almost said to some of the organizers backstage, I said, you want me to come to Budapest and talk about wokeness, but you guys already know how to defeat wokeness.
You just don't allow it.
You don't allow it anywhere.
We should learn from you about wokeness.
You should be telling me what to do when I go back to the U.S.
to learn about wokeness because that's the real issue is what we have, not what you guys have.
And it's it's so crazy to me to see this because you know they have a law here in Hungary and it's similar to and then Governor Sanders did the same law down in Florida where you cannot make that type of material for children and I think that's what you have to do but you know instead you have playgrounds you have beautiful Ferris wheels there's like a skateboard park and we went where did we go for for lunch today?
We went to The New York Café, the most beautiful café in the world.
And it really is.
And they've got the violins playing, they've got the bells, the strings, and it was incredible.
Did you see the ceiling of that place?
It was like a masterpiece!
It was a complete masterpiece, Gilded Age, all the type of things that they've torn down in the United States.
It has the beautiful aesthetics that we need to return to also in the United States as we rebuild our country, and like I say here all the time, reform the new American Republic.
We're going to need these types of things because when you're in the U.S., You don't see that kind of stuff.
You don't see those historic type of buildings like you do in Budapest, like you would in Krakow, like you do across Europe.
You know, we build these Oh, glass and steel skyscrapers.
It's going to be awesome.
It's going to be wonderful.
And modern.
It is, I guess.
But we got rid of all those old, beautiful buildings.
And I think it's sad.
I think it sets the tone for your country.
I think it sets the tone for your people when you have these great, glorious cities.
And I think that And I said this on stage, I said that the people are mad because, you know, they see those glorious cities that were built in Europe and other places and they say, well, how come, you know, how come, you know, we didn't have those and that was your fault because of, you know, racism and colonialism.
And they come up with all these different isms instead of just admitting that it's actually great.
And I don't know, that's why I like coming here.
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