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Dec. 21, 2022 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 346: HUMAN EVENTS DAILY AMFEST SPECIAL WITH JACK POSOBIEC AND DARREN BEATTIE
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- - Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to today's edition of Human Events Daily.
As you can see, we're here at AmericaFest.
We're wrapping up things.
Everything's running down, and yet someone was trying to leave, and I grabbed him and prevented him from entering his Uber, and that was Dr. Darren Beattie, who was there with us, and got an excellent shout-out, by the way, on True Social the other day from President Trump, I saw.
Indeed.
That was great.
And I wanted to grab him And get him on to do an interview with us because we have now seen four criminal referrals against President Trump regarding January 6th as the January 6th committee is wrapping up.
And I've got to get, you know, obviously this has been a focus of Revolver News for some time.
Let me get your reaction to these charges and then also where you think this is going to play out.
No, that's a great question, and you're right.
We've been following all aspects of January 6th, but also the corrupt January 6th committee for some time.
And, you know, my initial impression is the charges are ridiculous, especially the incitement charge.
He said, go peacefully and patriotically.
to the Capitol, and they're recommending an indictment for incitement.
Meanwhile, they're defending a now infamous character called Ray Epps, who we have on camera repeatedly telling people, I'm probably going to go to jail for this, but we need to go into the Capitol, into the Capitol, So, the juxtaposition of those two things, which is clearly the J6 witch hunt against Trump versus all the things that they didn't touch and didn't talk about is quite remarkable.
And neither of us are lawyers, but I'd like to know if there's some other legal definition of the word incitement, because when I hear Ray Epps' statements, go into the Capitol, storm the Capitol, that's where our enemy is.
Right.
Our enemy is the Capitol.
He literally said that.
I would define that as incitement.
And when I hear President Trump make these, you know, and they try to tie these vague statements, or even when I was on War Room the day before with Steve Bannon, and we're saying, oh it's going to be historic, it's going to be epic, it's, you know, talking about the debate on the floor.
They try to paper over that and tie it together.
Well, it's a dog whistle.
It's implicit.
We know what he really means.
Well, okay, maybe.
But, I mean, if that's your argument, then why is it that the only person that the January 6th Committee, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and all of them stuck their necks out in defense of was Ray Epps?
No, it really says everything you need to know, and the answer to that is the same answer as why is the only January 6th participant about whom the New York Times has written a puff piece?
That also happens to be Ray Epps.
That's pretty remarkable, isn't it?
This guy is the only insurrectionist that the New York Times happens to love enough to do a fully dedicated puff piece.
Liz Cheney doesn't want you to touch him.
Adam Kinzinger says don't touch poor Ray Epps.
This is all about Trump doing incitement because he said go peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol.
It's a complete joke.
And I'd love to get into some other elements about the committee itself that people might not be aware of.
First of all, I think the appropriate context in which to think about this committee and what they're doing.
This is a third impeachment.
Yes.
This is an extension And it's not just an extension.
We've attained permanent impeachment.
Exactly.
Permanent impeachment.
No, it's permanent.
It's the eternal recurrence of the same clowns who are trying at all costs to undermine Trump.
But it's not just a third impeachment on a conceptual level.
It's literally the pedigree of the J6 committee traces back to impeachment efforts.
A notorious figure that Revolver News helped introduce to the public.
A notorious figure called Norm Eisen.
Ah, yes.
The color revolution architect.
Fingerprints of Eisen.
Now, Norm Eisen had a lawfare organization called CREW.
And one of the people he worked with very closely was called Joseph Sellers.
Joseph Sellers, along with NAACP and along with Benny Thompson, ...initiated a lawsuit against Trump and the Proud Boys and others for January 6th that induced a specific theory of the case.
And so the whole January 6th committee's theory of the case comes from that initial lawsuit.
Which you'd think, if anything is a conflict of interest, it's having Benny Thompson run the J6 committee when he initiated a personal lawsuit against Trump advancing a particular theory of January 6th in which, of course, Trump is the criminal who did obstruction and all of this.
It's just a sham up and down.
If there had been a true insurrection, armed individuals storming the Capitol, perhaps holding it for 48 to 72 hours, actual ties to people in government, you'd want a true investigation of this.
But you couldn't have someone running that investigation that was already filing a one-sided lawsuit against the person that you decided was the ringleader of the whole thing.
Right, and which already had a theory of the case fully laid out.
I mean, the J6 is supposed to look at the issue afresh, but of course, you know, we all know it's a joke.
Anything with Liz Cheney is a joke.
It'd almost be like the FBI running the Oswald investigation.
Exactly.
Heaven forfend that.
But no, it's completely ridiculous.
And as long as we're on Benny Thompson, so he's not just the chair of the J6 committee.
Here's another interesting link that people might not know.
Benny Thompson is the Department of Homeland Security's stooge in Congress.
Benny Thompson, whenever the Democrats control Congress, Benny Thompson is the chair of the Homeland Security Committee.
He must have been chair, like, at least seven times, something like that.
It's pretty insane.
No, this must be because of his background of national security service, his understanding of the threats to our homeland, his zeal in protecting our sovereign rights.
Certainly this.
Certainly this.
Well, you know, the Department of Homeland Security was set up in the aftermath of 9-11 for this war on terror, which I think at best has mixed results.
But Benny Thompson came out very early on as the DHS's reliable stooge and pushed all these sort of Patriot Act type proposals coming through DHS.
And I just find it very interesting given what we've recently learned about the DHS, its role in censorship of Twitter.
Its role in censorship of the Internet more broadly.
Its obsession with censoring misinformation on three different things.
On COVID, on election integrity, And on January 6th.
You know Darren, since we're on the subject of the DHS and you know, when we look at the timeline of the Twitter files that have come out, we have to remember that The Twitter situation with FBI and DHS, that was October 2020.
Then the preferred candidate of the national security state enters the White House, they take over DHS, the apparatus there, and the very first thing they attempt to do is erect this organization within DHS, a law enforcement organization, not just But an organization like the FBI that straddles both intel and law enforcement, law enforcement powers.
Right.
And they attempted to create a program called the Disinformation Governance Board.
And it was going to be run by our good friend Nina Yankovich.
And now I gave a speech earlier today where I said, you know, I made a MyPillow joke and I said, Nina, if you're Staying up at night.
I've got a way to help with that.
But Darren, do you have a message for Nina?
Because she was so excited about being named to the Department of Homeland Security, she leaked her own hiring to Politico because she wanted someone to know about it.
But it turned out that after I exposed it and you exposed her background, she had to resign in utter disgrace.
And is it possible That she's just sitting at home right now listening to us, perhaps spinning some moaning Myrtle records, sipping her wine.
What can we tell her at this Christmas season?
You know, for someone like Nina, and I've become unfortunately familiar with a variety of these sort of disinformatrix type Figures and I'd have to say like she's probably the more personal of the bunch at least when she started out There was sort of a light Aspect to her personality she got heavier as things went on in a metaphorical sense but
It's really just the clownishness of her choice as the head of the Disinformation Governance Board.
It was too ridiculous even for Clown World America.
It was too ridiculous even for this ridiculous country.
Even Clown World rejected Nini Yankovic.
Yeah, Clown World, which says a lot.
So I can't help but have kind of a soft spot for her just because she's so ridiculous and silly.
There's almost a kind of charm to it.
Is Darren Beattie showing empathy?
Emotional empathy.
See, Lex Fridman would never, would never show empathy for one of his targets in a computer program.
But the thing about Nina that really is important to understand, it's really beyond Nina, she's kind of a non-entity, she's just a silly, silly person, but she was involved in this thing called the Integrity Initiative, which you know a lot about, we've talked about.
Oh, she's more than just involved because now, after being fired from Department of Homeland Security, And the resignation disgrace, her name turns up on foreign agent registration papers and Darren, which country is she now an officially registered foreign agent of?
My guess would be the UK.
It's the UK.
And what's surprising to me about that is that it's actually official in the UK because just in a nutshell for people not familiar with the Integrity Initiative, this was funded by the UK government, funded by the American government, funded by NATO cutouts like the Atlantic Council and so forth.
But basically, it was clusters of journalists who were basically put on tap to engage in psychological influence operations to interfere with the political processes of NATO countries, including the United States.
This is the exact blueprint for the disinformation industry and for all of the operations that Twitter became infamous for.
And it's called the Integrity Initiative.
And she was one of the key figures part of that UK cluster, which is probably the worst cluster.
But there are other figures involved, too, like Ben Nimmo.
And it's really a who's who character of sort of the disinformation economy.
And, you know, you think there are people like Renee DiResta, which we've already talked about.
She's not necessarily Integrity Initiative, but you just can't make this up.
She was engaged in all of these operations, talking about, oh, Russia, Russia, this, Russia, that.
She was attacking Roy Moore in Alabama saying he's supported by Russians.
Her group faked Russian accounts to support this guy and then blamed him for being supported by Russians and used that as a pretext to say Russian influence is a problem.
So Darren, you mentioned that in Roy Moore.
We also saw with the Hunter Biden case, they desperately were trying to find some tie between this laptop and Russia.
Right.
And it actually got to the point where it's kind of like that scene in Idiocracy, the famous documentary by Mike Judge, who... I love the scene where he's trying to implore the... and I know we're making a lot of references on this episode, but that's what happens when Darren comes on.
That he's trying to explain to them why plants need water to grow rather than brawn dough and eventually he can't get it across to them and so he eventually has to say, you know what?
I can talk to plants.
And the plants told me that they want water.
And this is essentially what the national security state does.
And it's not just Twitter.
Twitter's just the one we know about.
It's what they do to the Twitter executives who, yesterday we find out, were given top secret interim clearance By the federal government in order to look at some files where they said we couldn't find any ties between this laptop and the Russian government.
So we just told them that it was a Russian government operation.
We put out a statement of 51 national security officials and they went along with it even though we had no evidence whatsoever.
It's straight from the pages of Idiocracy.
Right.
But Darren, my question for you is It's not necessarily the fact that they lied, but...
Why is it, why not, say, the Iranian government?
Why not the Chinese Communist Party?
Why does it always have to be Russia?
Whether it's 2016, 2017, then in 2020.
I don't think we've heard one from 2022 yet, but well, you know, the year is young.
We may soon find out the operations.
Why is it always that this particular cluster focuses on Russia?
You know that's a great, that's really a great question and just as long as it's on my mind.
Revolver does some satirical pieces too and one of our most popular is why idiocracy is actually a more intelligent system than the one we have now.
Anyone who's interested in that, check that out.
It's got funny things like, well, for one, they at least have the common sense to find who the smartest person is and let them be in charge.
That's one thing.
That automatically gives them more, you know, means they should deserve more credit than we do.
Well, they do also try to kill him.
True, true.
There are some hiccups to that.
But no, the question of why the obsession with Russia really gets down to the fact that there are factions within what we call the deep state and the intelligence community.
And this goes all the way back to our reporting on the color revolution issues, that there's a certain faction of the intel community called the Atlanticists, whatever you want to think.
They're aligned with NATO.
They're associated with groups like the Atlantic Council and so forth.
And George Soros is a major figure in this sort of constellation.
Which, and by the way, just for folks' background, I know I said we weren't going to explain the references, but when we look at these operations, this is exemplified through the Five Eyes Intelligent Sharing Network And go look, who is Christopher Steele an agent of?
MI6.
Where were the meetings held?
London.
Where was the Steele dossier put together?
It's London.
Where was Gina Haspel, the station chief of, during Crossfire Hurricane?
She's the station chief of London.
And yet, for some reason, we never quite tie the UK and elements of the UK deep state into all of these discussions.
Right.
Well, I mean, this is the Atlanticist faction, and I mean, it's a very complicated answer.
I think the UK's particular fixation on Russia speaks to its sort of tacit acknowledgement of its status as a middling power.
They're just not of a status that they could confront anything bigger.
And so they're very invested in the United States remaining geopolitically focused on Europe.
And so that's part of it.
But there's also a sociology of it and things sort of acquired its own inertia.
Yeah, that sort of thing is whether you want to focus on Russia, focus on China.
And, you know, the Atlanticist group is definitely focused on Europe and favors a particular sort of influence model that I've described as the color revolution model.
And that model is particularly tailored to the phenomenon that we call wokeness because it requires mass mobilization.
It requires exacerbating certain cultural and ethnic cleavages within societies and mobilizing on that basis, leveraging the media and NGOs.
And so it's really important, I think, to understand the sociology and the ideology of this particular faction because it's played such a key role.
Well, and by the way, to piggyback on that, you know, we talk about the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, we talk about the Maidan as a color revolution, we talk about the Arab Spring, and yet I don't, for the life of me, Well, I know why, but I think one thing that we need to do a better job of is explaining that what we experienced domestically in 2020 is a textbook color revolution from top to bottom.
They used the story of George Floyd to rile and inflame the masses.
In conjunction with lockdowns and psychological operations, and Matthias Desmond talks about mass formation, all of this was done, and the EIP, Norm Eisen, bragged about this in Time Magazine.
This was a textbook color revolution.
You might call it the BLM color revolution.
No, exactly.
It's the BLM revolution.
And the thing is, is that this goes way back to revolvers, like, earlier, you know, early greatest hits.
It was like your first, you know... Yeah, the color revolution story.
It wasn't just that it was the same tactics.
It was literally the same people.
The same people.
The same color revolution professionals.
The people like Norm Eisen, who literally wrote the book on color revolution called The Playbook.
Um, there's people like Michael McFowell, who was the color revolution, you know, in charge of Russia.
There are, you know, people like Ann Applebaum, who happens to have been a member of the Integrity Initiative UK cluster, I believe.
And all these people, it's the same cast of characters, and so it's one thing if they use the same tactic.
But you notice the same cast of characters and part of that is just they viewed the emergence of Trump in 2016, the preceding Brexit phenomenon, as equivalent threats.
populism as an equivalent threat to these so-called authoritarian threats that they saw in Eastern Europe.
And they deployed the exact same mechanisms and tools to suppress the energies associated with the Trump movement and other populist movements domestically that they did against, you know, pick your Eastern European, quote-unquote, authoritarian that they went after. pick your Eastern European, quote-unquote, authoritarian that they went after.
So, Same people, same playbook, same tactics.
And you see that in the recent news with the J6 committee.
And the pedigree of that charge of this third impeachment goes all the way back to Norm Eisen.
And there's nobody more decorated than Norm Eisen in terms of lawfare efforts against Trump.
He's literally the key hatchet man, the key figure in all of these operations against Trump.
So with that, and we've got a couple of minutes left here, the new Congress is coming up.
Yeah.
Darren, if asked by, and we'll find out who the speaker is here soon enough, and the committee chairs, and I just hope they're strong, right?
That's what I keep saying to everybody.
If asked, would you be willing to keep the January 6th committee open on the contingency that they named the chief inquisitor, you?
Absolutely.
I mean, I am a big fan of keeping the committee, but actually having it serving the purpose that it should serve, which is to get to the bottom of January 6th.
And there are very specific items I've been calling for.
We've done a lot of reporting on the pipe bomb issue.
It's very easy.
And this is what I was going to say to anyone, elected officials, Do you remember Chris Hayes started getting in on this from MSNBC?
Why don't we know who this pipe bomber is?
It's incredible, but that actually illustrates an important point and something that people who want to do something good but maybe they're more on the cowardly side should think about in the GOP.
You don't need to go full revolver news and say the dirty word fedsurrection.
To say, I want to find out who the pipe bomber is.
You don't have to say, Darren Beatty was right about January 6th, to say, whoever it was, this person planted explosive devices outside the Democrat National Headquarters and we want to find out who this person is, whether they're Republican, whether they're Democrat, whoever they are, this was a terrorist operating on, you know, January 5th, January 6th, And we are law and order people.
We want to know who it is.
It doesn't take any political courage to say that.
And that, at the very, very least, I expect incoming Congress to do that.
I mean, you don't need the memaws of Alaska and Alabama and the peaceful people who were walking within the lines.
It seems like those are the ones that the FBI is much more interested in going after.
People locked up for two years now, in some cases, with no trial.
Though I am told that they have tablets.
Uh, while they're in there, and they are able to actually, on Pluto, watch Real America's Voice, and watch The War Room, and watch anything.
So, so, you know, we're praying for you this Christmas season.
But, but also, what, bottom line, what is the most important thing that the new Congress could do, going forward?
I know it's a complicated question, but what would you like to see, uh, for, out of the new Congress to fight back against any of this?
Well, I mean, most broadly speaking, I support what I think David Sachs just said on Twitter.
It's like, we need a new church committee.
Broadly speaking, we need a new church committee.
But more specifically, we need an investigatory committee like the January 6th Committee to get to the bottom of very specific issues.
And I've been on record saying the two smoking guns of January 6th are Ray Epps and the pipe bomb.
And there are very specific actions that this Congress can take in terms of Availing itself of subpoena power to get to the bottom of those two issues.
You've done the work that shows there are hours of videotape that the FBI has.
They've doctored footage that's been released.
Right.
But we have not ever seen the archive of.
We just want the chain of custody.
Just give us the chain of custody of the DNC pipe bomber footage and the full raw and unedited footage and let's start from there and see where it goes.
I guarantee you, it will lead to very, very dark places, but as they say, the cliche, but it's true, sunlight is the best disinfectant, and it's time for a reckoning.
Alright, we'll do Darren Beattie on Gen 6, I'll take social media, I'll start with the Twitter files, I'll start with Nina Yankovic, and work my way down from there.
But go easy on her!
We'll go easy on Nina!
Nina, if you're listening...
Just work with us.
We'll cut a deal.
Save the animus for Brandy.
Save it for Brandy.
Darren, always a pleasure.
Thank you.
Revolver.news is the site.
And I think there's an interesting interview that might be coming out there very soon.
Oh yes, I heard a rumor of that too.
Darren, always a pleasure.
Great.
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