Nov. 13, 2022 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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Sunday Special: It’s Never Too Late To Start A Family
On this must see Sunday Special edition of Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec goes one-on-one with Tyler Bowyer and they dissect exactly how the citizens of the United States are changing the way they live, changing the way they vote and ultimately changing the way they think. Jack and Tyler provide crucial insight as to why America is still the only destination for pure freedom on the planet. Join us for an intimate, deep conversation about community, the spirit of the United States and how i...
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to this Sunday special of Human Events.
I'm here joined with Tyler Boyer of Turning Point Action.
Hey Jack, it's good to be here.
Chief Operating Officer, it's very good to be here as well.
We're in Phoenix, Arizona.
Tyler, everybody is asking me about that show we did earlier this week.
But everyone has a huge problem with it, you know what it is, and because that show was only about, what, 24 minutes, 25 minutes long, and even Alex Clark was listening to it, and she said, I was getting ready the other day, I was listening to your guys' conversation, and then bam, it cut off, and I wish it was longer.
So I said, alright guys, can we get on Tyler's dance card, can we reach out to him, is his last waltz open, is it open?
And he said it was, his Friday was open in the afternoon, so we're recording this, we are here, and Tyler, We were talking about a lot of stuff and I wanted to frame this as sort of a 2023 action plan for the movement, for the way things are, for the generation, things are going out there.
I, for me, I can't get past this idea.
And I'm looking at Pennsylvania.
This idea of elections have changed.
The process of elections has changed.
And if you think that just holding a rally and going out there and putting up some TV ads and getting your message out, et cetera, is what you need in the era of vote by mail, in the era of these massive ballot harvesting campaigns, because that's what it is now.
There's a difference now between a ballot and a vote.
A vote means you went to the polling place and you stood out in the sleet, in the snow, in the rain, whatever it is in Arizona, the heat, and you waited for hours and hours.
But a ballot?
A ballot is just check, done.
And so what they're doing is they're trying to normalize this idea of not just vote by mail, right?
And I think I'm trying to look past The horizon on this a little bit, look over the horizon, because they're not just trying to normalize vote by mail, they're trying to normalize vote from home, which is vote on demand, which is this idea of, it's like Netflix, man.
It's like taking, when Netflix started, it was Netflix by mail.
You got your movies by mail, you got your DVD, and then you mailed it back, and then you had to mail it back where you got a new one, but then it eventually, the plan was always towards digital movies, and now we all have that.
I think the plan in a lot of these states and they eventually want to take this nationwide is digital voting and whether that's blockchain facial recognition it's I'd love a facial recognition was involved with this but I think that's what they're moving for and I think that means if you're in one of these states right you have to rethink your approach to all of this because the old arcane Yeah, blockbuster.
I'm telling you right now, where we're at, and this is how the left thinks.
That's the typewriter, man.
Yeah, blockbuster.
I'm telling you right now where we're at, and this is how the left thinks.
So to understand how the left thinks, and I hate to kind of dive right into this, but the way that they think is control, and they want control tactics.
They try to employ control tactics, and then that's where they implement Alinsky-isms in order to try to- To try to force their way, but yeah, you're exactly right.
We're in the process of walking backwards from their ultimate goal and idea of like, how can we possibly control every American from home right where they are?
We know exactly who they are, where they are at all times.
And you saw this in COVID.
They showed their hand.
How they think, what they do, what they're hungry for, where they go.
And these devices that we have in front of us tell them a lot of that.
And so they're on the precipice right now of being able to say, all right, what's all we have left is essentially the control mechanism of voting.
Who they vote for, how they vote.
And they're working their way backwards.
And you're exactly right.
They want to normalize us to be By ourselves, alone, distance from people, distance from processes, distance from community.
Atomized.
Yeah, I mean, realistically, the entire voting process across America, from essentially our founding, has always been a community driven event.
I was saying this the other day on the show, it's a civic ritual.
- An actual ritual of community, the same way that when the Star Spangled Banner is playing, you put your hand over your heart, you take your hat off, you stand up.
If you're in the military, you stand at attention, you might salute if you're outside covered. - Exactly right. - These are rituals.
When you say the Pledge of Allegiance, this is a ritual.
When I take my son to drive in movie theater, another shared interest of ours, is the one that we go to has been open since 1956, and guess what?
They actually show the Star Spangled Banner.
They play it before all the movies start, and everybody gets out of their cars, and everybody puts their hand over their heart, and he doesn't even quite understand why he's doing it.
But he sees everyone do it, and he sees Daddy do it, and he knows that's what I do now.
And it's a healthy community event, right?
Yes, and it's cohesive.
There's cohesiveness, there's culture that's a part of it.
And since the founding of this country, that is... So how we run elections and voting day... Voting day has always been part of that, yeah.
Is something that really was a new idea from the founding of our country, where we started doing this, where everybody essentially registers, everyone knows each other.
Right.
And this is the precinct idea.
This is the precinct idea.
- It's an amazing idea, right?
Where it's like you go to a community place, you cast your ballot, you say who you like and who you don't like, essentially, and those votes are tabulated.
Usually, I mean, how it used to work when this country was founded, in the public square, they would go through in a box and they would read them out loud.
One eye for Jack and, you know, eye for Tyler and eye for Jack, and then they would write it up, you know, I don't know, in dirt on a chalkboard or something.
Right.
And that's how you knew who was the mayor of, you know, these early pilgrim villages, right?
And like, that institution has essentially transformed the world.
into a more democratically fond area, but it's based around our republic, which is that we hold elections to see who goes and represents us at the most local level, all the way up to the federal level.
And this process has basically transformed over years, but hasn't changed very much.
Now, fast forward to now, now we're looking down the barrel at All of a sudden, like really evil people, pernicious people wanted to completely change how this has worked and operated.
And this has really come up in the last 20 years.
I think they used COVID to, you know, in the last 20 years, one of the biggest changes we saw was the motor voter law.
Yep.
In order to do this, which motor voter means when you go to register to vote, when you go to get your driver's license, which everybody wants, which driver's licenses also didn't used to be a thing, by the way.
That when you go to get your driver's license, they ask you if you want to register to vote.
Now, that means you have these massive inflated voter rolls of people, these huge percentages in every state, on the voter rolls, who never vote, but they're on the registration.
Why would you have that?
It's even worse than that.
So some states, like Oregon, they force register everyone.
So they forced to register everyone.
So Arizona is a state where they kind of take you through voter registration when you get your license.
Right.
And that's, you know, even... And that was a Clinton law, by the way.
That was a national law in the early 90s.
But in Oregon, Every single person is forced to vote, or forced to register to vote.
Right.
And so, why is this important?
Well, if they're automatically sending every single person on the voter rolls a ballot... Right, right, because the question is, obviously the question is, well, if you're talking about this, voting is such a great thing, why would it be bad?
Aren't you offering people the opportunity, right?
That would be the...
The positivist outlook on it, but that actually makes for very insecure elections because you have very bad voter rolls that way.
Yeah, essentially what you have is an inflation of voters, people who just do not care about voting, right?
And again, we go back to the founding of our country.
There's always been people in our community that do not care about voting.
They don't care about if you're mayor or if I'm the constable or whatever, right?
They just don't care.
And, you know, that's okay.
That's okay.
That's part of the freedom, why we love America.
That's part of the reason why we're here, is it's your right to not care.
Now, do I want to encourage you to be more civically involved?
Absolutely!
That's also culturally what makes us wonderful is that we have this culture where we're encouraging.
I think that automatically or forcing everyone to care by registering them, force registering them, makes them care less.
It detaches them.
It gives them more distance because now my conversation with you is like, hey, Are you registered to vote?
Well, yeah, everybody's registered to vote.
Well, now you've taken away that conversation with your neighbor, and it's like, well, no, I don't really think it matters to vote, right?
Now it's like, well, yeah, I'm registered to vote.
Okay, now you're off my back.
They're turning you into like an automaton by doing that.
They're taking away your personal human agency.
Yeah, they're turning you into an insectoid with a number.
That's just the worker drone.
That's before I vote.
I'm registered to vote.
And now what they're doing, and we'll get into this more in the next segment, we've got a couple of minutes here, but they're even taking away the process.
They're taking away the civic community communal process of going to vote.
And they're trying to atomize us to take away the entire community aspect And just turn it into this sort of something that you just scan.
Eventually, you scan your face, and that registers you, and then you'll have a heads up.
Blink once.
Blink once.
Blink once if you want to vote.
I like that.
Blink once if you want to vote.
Blink once.
For Jack.
Blink twice for Tyler.
And then instead of hanging chads, we'll get lazy eyes.
It'll be like, congratulations, you just voted for Jack.
I have a lazy blink.
No, I meant to blink twice!
But I have an eyelid disorder!
I actually do have an eyelid thing.
I was born with an eyelid thing, believe it or not.
It's true, 100%.
And then so, I've had a little scar right here at surgery.
But yeah, so like, you're gonna have all these issues and I'll never see you, right?
Versus when I go to vote now, when I'm home in Pennsylvania, I know the poll workers.
And I say, Hey, how you doing?
And she'll go, and then she'll go, your mom was in here this morning.
She always votes on her way to work.
And I always see her.
And I thought your dad was, has your dad been in here lately?
Like that kind of thing.
And it's, it's destroyed.
And you know, you have a cup of coffee, you might see somebody that, you know, from church.
And you said, this is the same principle.
This is the similar principle to, they want to take you out of church.
They want to take you out of the community.
They want to take you out of sports.
They want to take you out of... I mean, look at everything that COVID did, right?
They shifted this 10 years forward with COVID.
Everything that they want to eliminate, they want to pull you out of, is what they shut down during COVID.
That's right.
That's 100%.
And that includes voting.
It includes voting.
So they realize that they can't just take away voting because that would be too egregious.
So there has to be some kind of pressure release valve, not for control of the country, but of course for control of the people to give you this illusion of choice.
Well, they didn't even try that in Arizona.
They did try to take away our voting.
They tried to take away the whole thing.
We're going to get into that in the very next segment.
Hold tuned, because we are going to be right back with Tyler Boyler.
How did they try to take away voting in Arizona during COVID?
Be right back.
And we're back with Tyler Boyler.
Tyler, before the break, you were telling us how During COVID, they took away all the things that eventually they want to take away.
And here in Arizona, that was even more egregious than in other places because they tried to take away voting.
What do you mean by that?
They tried to take away voting.
So what's really interesting, like we talked about, and we're here in Arizona and we've been hanging out, spending a lot of time together this week with everything going on.
But they, this last year, they, Really looked at Arizona.
It's not just last year, last number of years.
They've looked at Arizona as kind of the tip of the spear for what they want to do, what the left wants to do.
I mean, the entry point's the rest of America via California.
Or the left coast is Arizona.
And so they really wanted to pass a lot of massively impactful changes here to voting laws that if they think they can get it done here, they can get it done in other places.
And so one of the things that people don't know about, and some of your viewers and listeners have been paying attention to this, ranked choice voting has been a big deal.
Yeah, and we saw this in Alaska.
We've seen this in other states, too.
So it's in Alaska.
It's in Maine.
Maine, yeah.
They're trying to pass it in Utah.
I think Nebraska, there was a push.
It's interesting.
It seems like there's a correlation with certain senators that are in those states.
But this whole idea, and this is what I think they were trying to do, there was a bill that went through the Arizona State Legislature this last year, and it was just coming out of COVID, but obviously they've been planning it for a year, where they wanted to essentially eliminate our precinct committeeman elections. where they wanted to essentially eliminate our precinct committeeman elections.
Okay, for what?
And precinct committeemen, for those that don't know, are the most Basic political office that you can hold.
It's any party.
It's by party.
The lowest unit of the party.
That's the grassroots.
That's your door walker.
The guy who's going, one man, one woman.
It's by precinct usually.
In some states it's multiple people per precinct.
But they wanted to get rid of that.
And so we're like, why?
I started just wracking my brain why they're trying to get rid of it.
And in the dark of the night, they passed this bill.
They threw it in with another bill and like no one noticed and then we caught on to it and we raised absolute, you know, we raised absolute heck down at the state legislature.
We, we, calls, texts, we're down there protesting because I think what they were trying to do and what the, what the end goal was, was they want to eliminate our primary election.
How does this connect with ranked choice voting?
Well, if you know anything about ranked choice voting that's happening right now in Alaska... I see where this is going.
What they're trying to do and what they want to do... It's almost like they're trying to combine the primary and the general.
That's right, that's right.
So what they want to do is they hate the fact that there's a primary election.
Well, why do they hate that fact?
Well, because conservatives... Because they can't control the primary.
Conservatives win primaries, right?
The people they can't control win primaries, essentially, right?
And so what they want to do, what the end goal is, is they want to have just one massive election.
And this is why they've instituted ranked choice voting in places, because how ranked choice voting works is that if you're on the ballot and I'm on the ballot and whoever else is on the ballot, you know, we'll use Jess in this.
Jess is on the ballot.
Jess on the ballot.
You have 1, 2, 3, you get to choose.
So 1, let's say you like you the best, you'd be 1.
Obviously.
Jess would be number 2, and I'd be number 3.
Of course.
But I, like somebody else, can vote, and maybe I like Jess number 1, and then me number 2, and you number 3.
Whoever's the bottom vote getter drops off, and then my second vote then goes to whoever I choose for first vote.
So how that equation ends up working out is that the second place person almost always wins.
Why?
Because that other party, right, that third party usually always will vote with the more moderate candidate.
So the second highest vote getter In the first vote, for number one, is generally also the second choice of everybody else.
So you end up with a situation where the person who came in second is also the second plus the first of the lower tier.
Third and fourth and fifth and all of that.
Well, that's ridiculous.
So basically it's changing.
So we go back to that institution that was created at the beginning, the founding of our country.
That's never how it's worked.
It's never how it's worked.
We have runoffs in some places.
Yeah, some places have runoffs.
Georgia is known for runoffs.
But that's not even a historical precedent in America.
Runoffs are kind of a newer thing.
And I actually hate runoffs for this very reason.
I think this tiered model works.
First past the post.
Yeah, multiple, whoever's the top, that's the most representative of the community.
And that's actually also how you get most representative of the community, because we all hate this two party system thing, right?
Like, it's like, I wish there were more parties, but you're not going to get more parties by giving the second place vote getter The office, what you're going to end up with is one big uniparty middle.
Right.
Which is what they want.
And instead, yeah, people ask this all the time, but the problem with having multi parties in a function of functional third parties inside the United States is because we have regional representation.
Yeah.
And as long as we have regional representation and first-past-the-post system, and not proportional representation, which is what if you look at Europe, for example, and all the multi-party democracies, and Israel, by the way, is like this, that's how Bibi Netanyahu came back, because you have these coalition governments, is people vote for a party, or people vote for someone to stand, and then Our parties are a little bit treated unfairly too.
for the party, that's a percentage of the seats they get in the parliament.
So that's a totally different system than the way we're set up. - Our parties are a little bit treated unfairly too.
Our parties actually are pretty, I think that they're actually pretty coalition based, right?
Right.
And so what we have are these expansive parties, but with wings of the party.
I'm going down a track that I didn't want to go down.
Not really about the candidates and the outcomes look like, but more so on the point that we were on with ranked choice voting.
They want to eliminate these elections because they want to institutionalize ranked choice voting.
Because that takes away the primary.
Because that takes away the primary.
Again, takes away one more chance for you to go civically engage yourself with your community.
Because what will happen at that point?
There'll be no more parties.
There'll be no more primary elections.
No more caucuses.
No more community engagement.
I mean, look at the caucus in Iowa.
We want you to sit at home, pick numbers from a number list, and that's it.
And that's who wins.
We might all, you know, if you're not from Iowa, you might think, boy, that's a strange way to do elections.
That's a different way to do elections.
But you know what?
That is the tradition in Iowa.
And God bless them for holding to that tradition.
You know what?
And as you can criticize it all you want, but I think there's something to be said for a tradition Iowa has always had.
And not to break that whole down, but it's like, you know, who stands in the place the longest with the most people versus the other?
It's incredible that they've been able to keep it going for so long and been able to hold to that with all of the headwinds against them.
Totally.
And God bless him for it.
I'll say God bless him for it.
Even if my guy doesn't always, you know, come out on top.
I think it's cool that they do that.
And I think it's good that we have these civic rituals.
And so we are faced with this and it ties into the Great Reset.
It ties into this idea of they want you atomized.
They want you working from home.
They want you voting from home.
They want you sitting in your little box.
They want you sitting in your little cube.
They want you to be like China.
You know, they want you living in a little square.
You propagate, when we tell you to have kids, you can have one.
Okay, now you can have two.
Or now we're going to go back to one.
You know, because the one-child policy has been going back and forth.
We'll just harvest your eggs.
Yeah, we'll harvest your eggs.
No, we'll just go to that.
This technocracy kind of model is what they've been trying to replicate here in the United States as a response to the rise of China, because they say, well, how are we ever going to compete with these guys?
And the great leaders of the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schraub, they said, well, we just have to become like them.
Well, in China, they don't have voting.
So they're turning our votes.
They are trying to turn our elections into illusions.
That's what at the end of the day they're trying to do.
They're trying to make it so that we feel as though we have a say.
But really, our only difference is whether you're wearing a blue sticker or a red sticker.
But actually, it's the same suit.
It's the same person.
It's the same guy.
Yeah, it's the same guy.
The same guy.
And at some point, actually, it can even get creepier than that.
If they eliminate it, and just think about it this way, and this is what actually scares me the most, Jack, is that when – do you know how many people a congressman represented when the country was founded?
I think it was 7,000.
I think it was about 30,000.
30,000, okay.
Somewhere in that ballpark.
I could be wrong.
It was way less than it is now, yeah.
Yeah, way less than, do you know what it is today? 700?
Yeah, it's a little over 700,000.
We're on track to be probably, within our lifetimes, a million.
A million plus, right?
Yeah, which is not, by the way, in the Constitution at all.
That's governed by a- because the original mechanism was that the House of Representatives would grow As the population and it did and it did and it did until they decided to stop it in the progressive era They locked it at 435 and and so we are underrepresented with our government Totally the reason why this this is that you would know your congressman that you would know your congressman You go and this is a civic ritual thing, right?
You would know him.
Here's what's scary Imagine America is an 800 million person country, right or a billion person country, right?
It could happen like China.
I think yeah like China, right?
The distance between you and your congressman is going to be massive, right?
We're talking oceans.
Like, you're never going to know your congressman.
No.
And if you are in a box, that you're placed in a box, and you're told, this is when you vote, and you blink twice, and you blink once, and, oh, don't worry, you'll never meet him, but he's a great guy, it could be the same guy.
You would never know.
You've never met him.
I mean, you know this.
I lived in Russia.
I spent time over there.
I spent time in China.
And you and I have seen these, what they call in Russian, общежители, which are big living communities, communal living facilities.
And these poor people, I mean, they live a lot like how Americans live in New York City, unfortunately.
My wife, when I visited Tanya's hometown, she showed me the one that she lived in when she was younger.
A lot of them are closet size.
They're smaller than the room that we're in now.
like literally smaller than the room they're here now and have entire families living like that. - And she had, and not only that, but she, yeah.
So she had, they had like a curtain down the middle of the room.
- That's what they, yep. - And then she, there was one family on one side and then her family on her side with a curtain down the middle, maybe two beds.
And she shared a bed with her sister.
They shared beds, yeah.
The whole family has a shared bed.
Yeah, just like one big bed for everybody.
And they'll have a communal outside of that space, and I'd love to take people on a tour.
If anybody wants to go on a tour to Russia, I'll take you over there once they open it back up.
Yeah.
They have these obscheditalies.
You share bathrooms.
Yeah, share bathrooms.
An entire floor.
It's like a dorm.
Shared kitchen.
It's like a dorm.
It's a dorm.
It is a dorm.
But it looks much scarier, much worse.
And that's how people live outside America world. - And I wanna point this out, and we're gonna talk about family here in the next segment, which is just fantastic tea up there, but that was considered better than some of these really, really rundown outskirts, villages and settlements and everything else that's out there because it gets a lot, a lot worse.
Folks, stay tuned.
We'll be right back with The Tile Board.
And we're back here with Tyler Boyer.
We were just talking about you spent time in Russia, I spent time in China, I visited Belarus, which of course was part of the Soviet Union, one of the breakaway republics.
And, you know, Tanya has showed me where she grew up and what it was like.
And one thing that I was going to To mention before the break is that we'd like at some point to, when our kids are a little bit older, to take them over, maybe have them do like summers with, you know, babushka and dyadushka and, you know, just understand where their mother came from, where half of their family came from, that this was the Soviet Union.
Things are better now, but there's still, it's not, you know, it's not that much changed.
And it gives you a different perspective on life, but also a different appreciation for the things that we have in this country and the things that we fought for and this society and country that we built from nothing.
Well, and all this is fundamental and foundational for this conversation about building and growing a family, right?
Because like, at the end of the day, we know that Marxism is antithetical to God's plan for families.
Correct.
It's just, it's core, right?
That's why it's materialistic.
Yeah, I mean, the fact is, is that if you are living in a space that we're talking about, which people were grateful for, I mean, some of the people that I knew today, right, that are in post-Soviet era, they're living in these communal living situations where they're sharing kitchens, entire floors are sharing kitchens.
And it's scary.
It looks like a rundown Yeah, construction site in most of these places.
I mean, that's what it looks like.
Flickering lights.
It looks like a horror movie.
I'll be honest with you, I've been in some of these places.
Times wasn't that bad, but I've seen what you mean.
Southwestern Russia is a little scary.
It's a little sketchy.
It's like the dirty south of Russia, but that's where I was.
It's right in the Donbass region.
Well, you're right across from Donbass.
Yep, yep.
Well, in the Don River Basin on the Russian side.
Uh, that these places are incredibly scary, but they're grateful because they're not living.
In the villages, which are even more scary, which are overrun with drugs.
And we're talking about, these are basically peasant villages.
Yeah, they're like dirt floors.
And so they're grateful for that.
But like, again, that's government making people think that they're grateful for something.
That's right.
Because they've been gifted it by the government.
That's right.
Rather than they've earned it and they've built a life where they have life, liberty, and land, which is really the core to, foundational core to Freedom, right?
Which is like this whole thing.
And so when we're as Americans, right?
So what's the difference between, you know, and even when I think of my family that, you know, we sort of have this blended, you know, I was actually having that conversation with somebody the other day was to think like, well, so are, you know, so Tanya is an immigrant.
So are my kids first generation, but they're only half first generation.
So what is, or, you know, so what does that really mean?
Right.
Does that count?
And, and it's, It's sort of a child of two worlds kind of situation right and so what's the difference between okay?
So you know like genetically ethnically yeah, we're Slavic right but We also have ideas and concepts from being in this land and assimilating and understanding the difference from America and the social contract here and the importance of, to your point, life, liberty, land.
We live differently.
We think differently.
That's the biggest separator, too, is that When people came to America, and you think back to Pilgrim era, and even today, and people that move their entire lives to America, and they do it the right way, and they gain citizenship, they are coming here because they can actually put their hands on tangible things, right?
And be part of something that's special, and I think we don't talk about that enough.
is that we want to be part of the community.
They want to be part of the culture.
There's only one country in the world where people are trying to fight to get in.
Yeah.
Well, and it's being part of it, right?
Like, I want to be part of going to baseball games, whether it's high school football games or to an MLB game.
Like, that's, like, uniquely, innately cultural.
He's being sensitive about that because my fillies didn't do so well.
Yeah, I didn't want to bring it up.
No, it's alright, it's alright.
They got there.
My Dynavacs are nothing.
They got there.
The owners are terrible.
So I mean, I'll tell you this is that it's, that's really special.
That's what's special about being here in America.
And again, it's like being able to stretch yourself out, like own it and like, and what What the left is doing within our own country is trying to eliminate that.
But there's also a key element.
There's a key element to everything that we just said that underpins all of it, and that's family.
Yeah.
That, because if you don't have a spouse, if you don't have children, if you're not raising kids, then what do you need any of that stuff for?
What do you need, what the heck do you need community for then?
Well, you can just go and, you know, watch Netflix, and be by yourself, and Uber Eats, Go on and play video games by yourself.
Or you don't have to be by yourself.
You can go on Tinder or you can go on one of those little things and you can spend the night, right?
And we all know these are one night stand apps.
These are not dating apps.
Why do we call them dating apps?
That's transactional, right?
It's all transactional.
It's transactional relationships versus a godly, innately core relationship, right?
And they want everything.
They want everything to be transactional.
All humans do transactional things.
I'm not saying that you're not going to.
We're going to do transactional things.
Marriage, in a sense, is very transactional.
I'm going to drive through and I'm going to get late night food.
By the way, if you're not being transactional in your marriage, you're probably not doing it right either.
Those things are going to happen.
Give and take.
But the point is that the underpinning for everything is not transactional.
That's life.
It's marriage.
It's building a family.
And guess what?
If you're living in a closet, Are you more likely to build a family?
No, of course not.
Right?
Of course not.
And so if they can box you in, if they can take things away from you, if they can give you things and you think that you're being, you know, the pat on the head.
Well, this is, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
And you'll be happy with it.
So you're never going to build that.
That is the antithesis, right?
The antithesis.
But you look at some of this stuff and I mentioned Netflix before, but you know, when's the last time you bought a movie?
You don't own movies anymore.
We used to, everybody used to have the library. - You used to have the library. - You used to have the library. - You used to have the library. - And they would have all those VHS tapes.
Like I was never one of those kids.
- And it was something that you were-- - I had like the ghetto like all sprawl.
But I used to have friends that would have like a little library you'd go in and be like, "Wow, you're rich." - And you were proud of it because you collected something.
And there's something in human nature of, "Look at what I've acquired.
I've gone into the wild." Yeah, it's very American.
It's like having the wolf pelt on the wall of a collection of, and I've got all the Quentin Tarantino's.
All the Disney classic.
Remember those classic?
Remember the Nickelodeons were orange?
Yeah, true.
Well, actually, funny enough, you mentioned VHS tapes.
I made a comment about that to Tanya the other day.
And you know what she said?
She says, what's VHS?
Oh.
Yeah.
And I was like, well, that's how you watch movies.
She's like, you mean like on TV?
Like, well, no.
I mean, like, like when you bring it in your house and you watch a VHS tape, you mean like a DVD?
They didn't have them.
Like, you know, they, nobody had them.
Nobody had them.
The VHS was like, I mean, if you had VHS, you were like, like ultra party elite.
Yeah.
Like it was, it was the inner circle.
Yeah.
Inner circle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of level.
Top tier.
Yeah.
So she had, that was, it was, it was kind of like a gut check for me there.
Whoa.
Didn't even know what VHS was.
But, but my point is though, That we've all sort of just accepted this idea that we don't own movies anymore.
And I know it's something small, but it's becoming the same way with music.
And by the way, Jack, it's going to be the same with cars.
It will be the same with cars.
Automated cars.
Everything.
That's what they want.
They want to take away your house.
They want to take away your car.
Yeah.
They want to take away your... Everything will be leased.
We're all going to be renters.
This whole carbon exchange system.
I'm telling you, every single thing you do, they want to take away from you.
And so Americans have to say, have to say, stop.
No, I want to collect everything I want to collect.
Because every time you want to do something like that, every time you give up your right to ownership of something, You give away a little bit more of your freedom, because if that's owned by somebody else, you don't control it.
You know what?
In Mandarin, the word for communism, I love this.
I love the way they translate it.
共产主义.
So 共产主义, what does it mean?
Literally means the ideology of public property.
That's it.
That's all it means.
It just means, so if you really boil down all of communism, the elimination of public property.
That is the goal.
That is the straight up goal.
You don't want to own anything.
And it's interesting because the question of reproduction becomes an issue with these societies because they're like, What incentive does that person have to reproduce?
It's almost incidental.
So then they have to think about, you know, IVF and birthing chambers and all these things.
But because they know, they know that when you have kids, and we're seeing this with Millennials, by the way, we're seeing this with Millennials as Millennials are getting older.
Now they've put off family formation and there's a lot of economic reasons for that.
But Millennials are starting to have kids now, Millennials, or actually a lot of Millennials have two or three kids now.
Right.
and they're finally starting to own homes, and they're realizing, hey, wait a minute, I do have to kind of buy into my community.
I do have to pay taxes.
I do have to keep my kids safe.
I don't want my kids being transed when they go to school.
I don't want them getting taught to hate their country.
And, you know, maybe I shouldn't let, you know, the crazy liberals be the only ones who go, because they were the only ones who went to, you know, education school.
They're the only ones who got their master's in education.
It's all the crazy libs.
And the conservatives have never really done that.
We don't really have an answer to the liberal teacher, if you notice that, by the way.
We don't, except for, again, this is the same thing, which is taking control, taking ownership.
The only answer to everything is saying, you know what?
I'm going to stop the government interference with whatever part of my life that is.
I'm going to take control.
I'm going to take my land.
I'm going to get away from it.
And I'm going to do it myself.
And that is in essence, the essence of America.
That's the essence of building a family, right?
Which is like, at the end of the day, I mean, this is at its core, what we're seeing through COVID, right?
Like, think about, I mean, it's so connected to this whole thing of like, stop, you can't come into the hospital and be with your loved one over anything, whether it's childbirth or family death.
When Tanya was pregnant with our second son, There were checkups and things that she was going to that I was not allowed in for.
I think this is what bothered people the most.
And I had to be over FaceTime and I could be on video sitting in the car in the parking lot while she's in there.
My wife is in there and God forbid something went on and I can't hold her hand, really?
Oh, you're on the phone.
Or she finds out she has cancer, or she finds out she has... It's some kind of bad news, and I can't be there with my wife?
Yeah.
For something like that?
Please.
Please.
But that's what they want, right?
That's exactly what they want.
I think this, actually, this facet of it... Yeah, what do we need the man for?
You've already donated your sperm, you've already... This bothered people the most.
Yeah, I don't think so.
And it bothered her too, by the way.
You couldn't be there for that.
And then also when people were dying.
I'm still upset about it.
You could tell.
No, no, no.
It is impacting me too.
We had a baby during COVID.
It was terrible.
It was literally, I will never forget it.
I'll never forgive.
We are coming up on our break.
Do not forget what they did.
We'll be right back.
Alright Tyler, there was something a little bit spicy that you said earlier in the week in our program.
What you said was spicy?
What I said was pretty cool.
Okay, yeah, that's one way to look at it, I guess.
That you said, we were talking about this issue that we were getting in these exit polls that for so many Millennials, they're having kids, it's great, but there's this other contingent of Millennials and Zoomers of single women that have not had kids That are extremely liberal, just, like, plus 38 liberal.
Right.
And particularly with the millennials, as the millennials get older, there's always been this sort of, you know, question of, obviously, for women, there is a biological clock.
That is a real thing.
And then once you hit 30, and then it just becomes harder and harder and harder.
And so, You had a comment, though, you said you're never too old to start a family.
You said you're never too old to start a family.
And the one thing, and people said, well, what about, what if a woman, she can't?
I said, well, hold on, there's adoption, there's all sorts of different things you can do.
And it actually reminded me of Milton Hershey.
You know the story of Milton Hershey?
I actually know.
You know Hershey's, right?
Everybody knows Hershey's, but Milton Hershey was the founder of Hershey.
So Hershey, Pennsylvania, he founds the town right out in Lancaster County.
Why?
Because he had this idea that if you made the chocolate right next to where the milk was made, so right next to the, as fast as possible, got it from the cows, that it would be better chocolate.
So where are the cows?
Lancaster County.
So he builds it out there, has a factory town, Obviously, everyone knows Tom's one of the most recognizable brands of chocolate in the world.
Never has kids.
Never has kids of his own.
Married.
So what does he do?
He sets up an orphanage.
And he sets up a school and he calls it the Hershey School.
And as he is going to die, he's working at his will, he's like, I want this school to keep going.
Because those kids kind of became his kids.
And he said, I want those kids to live in perpetuity and I always want this school to be open.
And I'm worried that maybe somewhere down the line, you know, someone gets into this company and they decide they don't want to do the school anymore, and they don't like it, and it's not making money, and it's stupid, whatever, and we're going to get rid of it.
So he set up, and because he didn't have his own heir, he set up A function for the school to always be open.
Right.
When he died, he left ownership of the Hershey Company to the school.
Wow.
So to this day, the Hershey's Chocolate Company, the controlling interest in the stock of that company, is owned by the Hershey School itself.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Very cool.
I love it.
I mean, I just, I love American stories like that.
That's, like, that's the kind, like, that's the kind of civic engagement, civic quality that you want to have.
And there's a guy who, he didn't have biological children of his own, but he was able to have his, but that was his family.
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, look, we kind of talked about this, we opened this up, I have a lot of friends, you have a lot of friends, and I know A lot of them, I watch them from a distance, chase a lot of things.
And they chase careers, which is great.
A lot of them are in great careers.
They chase hobbies, in a lot of cases.
They mess around, even just in the dating space, where it's just, again, very transactional.
We brought that up earlier, where they're doing a lot of transactional stuff.
And it's not that innate, core, and they're unhappy.
A lot of them are constantly unhappy, or they're constantly upset that they're not in this, or not in that, or I wish I had a kid, a little league game to go to, like you.
Like, that's cool, Tyler.
Whatever it is, right?
Yeah.
Like, I get those things, and I'm like, well, you can't.
I remember there was a time where, you know, I had an opportunity to do something, and they were like, and I just recently had to say no, and they said, why?
And I said, well, I have to hop on a flight at four in the morning.
And they're like, why are you getting on a flight at four in the morning?
I said, because it's my kid's school's Halloween party.
Right.
And I'm going to be there for that.
And they're like, wait, what?
Jack Posobiec has Halloween parties?
Some people wouldn't even consider that.
And that's the most special part of my days.
I was like, you understand.
I'm going to be there for that.
Tucking in, going to games, doing the stuff, doing the transactional stuff with my kids.
And this is one thing I disagreed with.
I won't say who it was.
There's a prominent person on Twitter who sometimes goes after sports.
And I hear the argument, there's a lot of stupid things you can do with your life.
They're, again, transactional.
But my argument back is this, is that when those things help you develop a relationship, right?
Like, again, sports, whether it's like little league sports or, you know, kids sports.
My take would be there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.
Of course, like anything anytime you get obsessive, but the point is if anything in this world helps you build a relationship with your family, helps you develop a family, helps you get closer to building that family...
I think it's pretty good.
I actually think that it's healthy.
And if it's cultural and it brings community, it's even better.
That's great.
Which, by the way, you know, I even like taking my kid to minor league baseball games.
They're so much fun.
And they're cheap.
We've got a place that's right by the house.
And no one cares about minor league teams, by the way.
No one cares if you win or lose.
And the games are just fun.
They always do a ton of stuff for the kids.
Very family-oriented.
Super family-oriented.
They have like a little merry-go-round.
There's even one up in, so the Reading Phillies was the one that I always went to as a kid.
I remember, we don't go as much anymore, but I remember asking my dad, I was like, hey, do they still do those?
They have a swimming pool.
They have a swimming pool at the baseball field.
For kids to go.
For kids to hop in the swimming pool during the game.
Smart.
And so, the thing is though, I'll take my kids, they're 4 and 2, and he loves it.
He doesn't really understand what baseball is, but he's like, hit the ball, catch the ball.
It's family.
You're hanging out.
He loves it.
You're learning.
You're growing.
And like, that's the thing that Again, the left hates that Marxist hate.
They want to eliminate it from your life.
They can't control it, and they can't eliminate it, and they can't stop it.
That's why during COVID they wanted to eliminate sports.
I will throw out though that you have seen, you know, I think one of the issues that people have though is that you have seen with some of the major, not to, you know, get into this, but At the NFL level, at the MLB level, you've seen a lot of NBA, a lot of co-opting.
A lot of co-opting from the left in terms of these things.
And people need to fight back.
They need to fight back against that.
Well, I think that this was part of it, right?
Because that's all brand and television, right?
That's right.
That's different from you attending and building a relationship with your family and building community in the community.
Why is it important for someone to have a family?
Well, I mean, at our core, we are predisposed to do that, right?
We are born to birth children.
We are born to create families.
We are born to create, right?
We are born to procreate.
We are born to build unity.
But more importantly, there's this deep relationship, if you believe like I do in God, and that there is a relationship that is beyond this life, that is prior to this life, that's beyond this life, that family is not just a here thing and we die, but it's a forever that family is not just a here thing and we die, And that God is our Father and cares about all of us, and that's why we're all uniquely kind of brother and sister on this planet in some way.
that That is something that's eternal.
It's not just for this time, right?
And so that's why those relationships you develop and you learn and you grow.
As you're teaching your kids, you're learning To father, you're learning to mother, right?
You're learning to grow, and that's something that, to me, is not temporal, it's eternal.
When you have kids, certain things that you didn't understand about yourself, certain things you didn't understand about your parents, certain things get turned on and switched on and activated in you that you didn't even know about yourself, that you didn't even know that you had.
Certain drives, certain desires, certain energies and ambitions.
Last night we were doing another five hour live stream and I got home and my favorite part of the entire day wasn't looking and seeing how many followers I was up to or how many viewers on the stream we had.
My favorite part of my day was I was chasing my kid around the hotel room, laughing, and just putting him to bed, reading a book with him, and he's really into Scooby-Doo right now, so we're doing that, and the fact is, and I've gotten a bunch of books where he can read the book himself, and he's reading it to me, and he loves it, and seeing that joy of reading that I always had as a kid,
is now being fostered in him.
And at one point yesterday, I had downloaded something on the tablet, and I was gonna go show it to him, and I walked into his room, and I looked over, and he was sitting on the couch, reading a book by himself.
And I took the tablet, and I grabbed it and put it behind me so he wouldn't see it, and I was just like, yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah, there we go.
The flame lives on, you know?
And that's the kind of relationship though, like, you know, I mean, there's nothing to me when I wake up in the morning and our little girls come in and they jump in bed and they cuddle us and I've got a two-year-old too and she's just like the most cuddly little thing, right?
Like, I just like, you're kind of half asleep when she comes and you pull her into bed and You open up your eyes and she's just sitting there and sometimes, you know, a lot of parents will experience this where you open up your eyes and your kid is just like, just staring you right back in the face.
Like an inch away from you.
Yeah, exactly.
Almost just smiling, eyes wide open.
It's like 6am, right?
Eyes wide open and that happens from time to time and it's just like...
It gives you just like this pause where you're just like, wow, I am the luckiest person.
This is where I'm, this is what I'm meant to do.
And, and there's not very many things in this world that can make you pause and make you think and feel like you're the luckiest person.
Cause when you're chasing that, when you're chasing that transactional stuff, you're always just looking for the next one.
You're always just looking for the next one.
You can sometimes feel lucky and cool for a moment and it's fleeting, but there's, it's a different, Deeper, that warm, incredible feeling that's just like, there's nothing else I need in this entire world than this little two-year-old.
Staring me in the face.
Hot breathing in my face.
People need to know that Whatever point in life you're in, wherever you are, I love that line, you're never too old to start a family.
It may not be the exact one that you thought you were going to have, not the Hollywood version.
It may not be the Family Ties version of a family, but it might be that unconventional Adoption, relationship later in life, you know.
You know, some people, again, I've had friends that can't have babies.
But that shouldn't stop you from building a family, building relationships and core relationships in your community because your community needs that as much as you need it as well.
Folks, we're gonna have to end on that because, as we said, you're never too old to start a family.
Tyler, where can people follow you?
On Twitter, Tyler Boyer, at Tyler Boyer.
Newly blue-checked, newly blue-checked.
Yeah, like everybody else.
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Or you can follow me on Instagram as well, same thing, at Tyler Boyer.