Aug. 28, 2022 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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Sunday Special: The Dangers of Being a Christian, Conservative Congresswoman
Sunday Special: Jack Posobiec interviews Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene after she was dangerously swatted twice within two days in an attempt by a trans-activist to have her assassinated by manipulating the police. This was in response to Greene introducing the “Protect Innocence Act”, a bill that makes transgender surgeries for children illegal. Poso and Greene engage in an educational discussion about spiritual warfare and break down the difference between the local police and the FBI...
Jack Posobiec here for a Sunday special for Human Events.
We're sitting down with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Now, we had a pre-recorded interview.
from a couple of weeks ago, but we canned it.
We completely got rid of that interview.
And why is that?
Because something happened to Marjorie Taylor Greene this week, this Congresswoman.
She was targeted not once, but twice in the sanctity of her own home.
Swatted.
And we're told, reportedly, that this was done by trans activists.
They sent police to her home in the middle of the night, two nights in a row.
They told the officers that there was an active shooter involved inside her home.
They wanted her killed.
They wanted her dead.
They wanted her taken out.
Everyone knows who the Congresswoman is.
I think she needs no further introduction.
Here we go.
Okay, so the caller stated that She reported that their boyfriend had come to the home and that they shot him five times and he's currently in the bathtub.
Caller refused to provide name, but insisted on providing the address, ensuring that the responder had it correctly.
Caller stated that they were going to load the gun and take their own life and then stop responding.
The line is still open with our mental health responder.
Who's calling me?
What company are you with again?
The Veterans and Military Crisis Line.
And you said somebody possibly shot somebody?
That's what the chatter is telling me.
I work for Suicide Lifeline.
He said he shot his family members and he's going to shoot himself as well.
It may possibly be a slaughter.
We're not 100% sure.
But he's saying that he wants help for his family.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to a very special edition of Human Events Daily.
We're excited to welcome back on the program, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Now, I wish it was under better circumstances, but unfortunately, the reason that we are interviewing her today and the reason that we kind of scrapped our normal agenda and said we need to focus on this specifically is that, Congresswoman, you were just the victim of two swatting attempts that came A little bit dangerous, and that had the opportunity, in a few of these instances, to become extremely kinetic and become very, very out of control.
And so, Congresswoman, first of all, are you okay?
Is everything all right?
Yes, I'm okay.
Thank you so much, Jack.
And my family's okay, so that's a good thing.
Everyone's okay.
Yes, everybody's okay, but the reality is it was basically an attempted assassination by police in the form of swatting on a member of Congress.
Well, these extremists were using the police as a murder weapon, almost, or attempted to use the police as a murder weapon.
But before we get into that, let's go back and unpack.
I know you've told the story, and we chatted briefly earlier this week, but I really want to go into this.
I want to hear your side of it.
You're home.
It's the middle of the night.
You get a knock on the door.
Tell me what happened.
Well, as you can imagine, or anyone listening or watching this can imagine, when you're sound asleep in the night, and you're not expecting anyone at the door, if you hear a knock at the door or a doorbell, it is very scary.
It's startling.
What I was woken up to after one o'clock in the morning was doorbells, knocking, and seeing flashlights, and hearing people outside my bedroom window.
And that concerned me, so I got up, got dressed, I was going to take my gun to the door, but I did not.
Thank God.
And I went to the front door to police outside my front door and outside my front yard, opened the door to a very serious situation.
The police were responding.
They informed me responding to a 911 call where someone had called in and said that a person had been shot.
On five times in the chest were aligned in a bathtub.
There were children in the home and there was a there was going to be potentially more murder or suicide happening.
So when police get a call like that, as you know, Jack, they show up tactically prepared, guns drawn, ready for the circumstance of the situation they have to respond to.
It is a high alert situation, also very dangerous for our great police officers.
Uh, so when I opened the door, that is what they were prepared for.
And I was, of course, so confused, um, not knowing what was going on and not expecting anyone at my home and just ask them, you know, what's going on?
What's happening?
Uh, is everything okay?
And then they informed me of the call and I said, no, I didn't make that call.
And then that's when I got really scared because I thought, is someone in my house?
And I asked the police officers to come inside.
I wanted them to check my home.
And that's when both of us, you know, realized and the sergeant in charge, he goes, yeah, I think, I think you've been swatted.
Yeah, I think this is what's going on.
So, shout out to our Rome police officers here.
They were amazing.
They were clear-headed.
They were in control.
They were prepared to handle the worst situation, but they were also so quick to realize the real situation that we had going on.
Now, that was one night.
And that's night one, but then, right.
So this happens again.
Yes.
And then the person called back afterwards and, and confessed the reason why they swatted me was because, um, I am against, uh, uh, transgender surgeries for children.
I've, I've taken a very strong stance against it and they are angry at me for that.
They wanted to have me murdered by police.
Um, they wanted to ban it.
Yeah, harm done to me or my family because I introduced a bill the week before Protect Children's Innocence Act to make this a felony.
For anyone performing so-called gender-affirming care on children under 18, no double mastectomies, no hysterectomies, no castration, no puberty blockers, no hormone therapy for any child under the age of 18.
It's important legislation.
It should be illegal.
And they're mad at me for that.
They're so angry at me, they want to kill me for it.
So that was just night one.
The next day, You know, same thing.
Was looking forward to a good night's sleep, because I didn't have one the night before.
Went to bed, but I was awoken just after 3 a.m.
the very next night.
Same scenario, exact same scenario, except the only difference is our local police officers were totally clued in on to the situation.
So when I opened the door, it was very different.
They were saying, ma'am, we're just here because of the call, following our protocols.
We don't want to alarm you.
We understand what's going on.
We just want to check on you.
Are you OK?
Which I was so grateful for them, of course, and said yes.
So that was two nights in a row and now there's a very serious federal investigation going on in coordination with our local police.
Well, you mentioned the investigation that's going on, but first I want to say I do agree with you that they know that, of course, that you're a supporter of the Second Amendment.
They know what they were doing.
They know that it was one in the morning and the second time three in the morning.
I think personally that these folks hoped that you would answer the door.
With a gun out, with a gun in your hand, they were trying to provoke a type of situation like we've seen so many times.
This is why, personally, that I've spoken out against red flag laws, because they're trying to provoke one of those types of situations that leads to somebody getting shot and potentially yourself.
Have you given any thought to that, to the fact that this could have gone a very different way for you?
Yeah, I'm glad you point that out, Jack, because that's exactly the way I thought about it.
Normally in the middle of the night and even in the daytime, if I'm not expecting someone to my home, I will carry my gun with me to the front door.
I'm a member of Congress.
I've had a lot of death threats.
You know, there's people out there that wish me harm due to the horrible things the media has lied about me.
And yeah, I'll go to the door most of the time with a gun.
And the fact that I had that gut feeling, you know, even though I was very disoriented, just being, just woken up, That something told me, don't take the gun with me.
Thank God.
Thank God I didn't because that is how people get killed.
Just as pointed out with red flags, that's how these awful things happen.
The police do not want to do that.
They don't want to make that mistake.
But when tensions are high and no one knows the scenario, both parties are confused about what's happening.
This is how people have been accidentally killed in a swatting incident.
And so, yeah, I think you're absolutely right to point that out.
I think whoever this was doing this to me knew that very likely I would take a gun with me to the door and be so shocked with police coming to my house in this manner that, yeah, I think their aim was to get me killed.
That's just, it's horrifying that our country has come to such a place like this where there's no room for conversation, there's no room for discussion, it's just tribalism and then hyper-tribalism, hyper-extremism to the level of, oh, and by the way, of course, you know, there's been no outpouring of support for you.
I know you're, you know, you're not going to say this, but I'll say it for you.
There's been no outpouring of support.
The media doesn't have your back.
In many cases, the members of your own party don't even have your back on this.
Just send a tweet out.
Send a tweet out.
I'm glad that my colleague is safe.
I'm glad that she's okay.
It's so terrible that we have to go through this harrowing experience, or even if it's somebody in the other party, just to say an attack like this should never happen to a sitting member of Congress.
But I mean, I'm sure you may have received some personal messages, but in public, I got to tell you, Carson, I'm just not seeing it.
Wow.
I did receive a lot of personal text messages, which I'm thankful for.
And I've had such a busy couple of days that I haven't been able to like look at everyone's social media.
And I'm shocked to learn that you would think every Republican colleague and Democrat colleague of mine would speak out against this.
But that is so shocking.
I think what is extremely concerning to me is the handling of it with the media.
Either it's a complete blackout and they won't talk about it or like MSNBC Putting in their headlines, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene targets trans kids, which is an absolute lie.
Complete and total lie.
If anything, all I'm trying to do is say, look, leave kids alone.
Let them grow up before they make these permanent changes to their body.
Radical, awful changes that they cannot undo before they're even old enough to really even think about, is this what they really want?
And yeah, it's I don't know how we got to a place in our country, Jack, where it's controversial to say protect kids.
We have to protect them.
We have to protect their identity.
We just have to say this is not a time for children or any person to make such a radical decision for for my God.
Surgeries that will damage their body.
Genital mutilation surgeries that will last a lifetime for these children.
And they're not even old enough, not even old enough to vote.
And so I think that's, I don't know how we got in a place where my stance is controversial.
It's certainly not controversial with the American people, but the mainstream media and the, you know, basically the fools that live in Washington, D.C.
think it's controversial.
And so I think it just shows you we're in a true spiritual war in America, and you can see the attacks on me are proof of it.
But it's not just me, Jack.
It's any person that stands up and fights for what is right and what is good.
And I think it's so important for everyone to realize This is the world we live in today, and so we basically just need to understand how to get comfortable being uncomfortable, because if you're in the fight, if you're trying to protect kids, if you're trying to do what's right, if you're a Christian and you're trying to live out your Christian faith, you're going to be attacked for it, and you're going to have to be okay with it.
That's exactly right.
Now, are you able to tell us, obviously as a member of Congress, the Capitol Police, your security is their remit.
FBI, though, I would hope is getting involved in this.
Are you able to tell us anything about the entities that are working on this investigation?
I can't give full details, but it's multiple federal law enforcement agencies, as well as our local police.
So if you can read between the lines, you can definitely figure it out.
Absolutely, of course.
But when it comes down to it, there is a larger picture here that I wanted to get into.
In the midst of recording this, we've just received the affidavit from the Mar-a-Lago raid.
We've seen not much there other than a records dispute, it seems like.
You know, some kind of argument over, you know, who put the files where.
I don't see very much in terms of a crime, because when you're talking about the President of the United States, he has unilateral authority to declassify anything that he wants.
He is the security clearance.
He doesn't need security clearance.
He is it.
But you see the FBI with this national daytime raid in terms of that, and you look at that versus your local police who came out knowing, by the way, when they came out, they were told there was an active shooter.
In that home, in that they came out themselves, they came out putting themselves in harm's way in the middle of the night, two nights in a row by the way, which they didn't know what was going on.
They didn't come out because you were a congresswoman, they came out because you were a member of the community to be able to go there and hopefully protect your life by putting their own lives on the line.
And we ask this of police officers, local police officers, every single day.
Every single day we do this, and yet we demonize the same police officers that we asked to do this for us in the middle of the night.
And I just wanted to ask you, where do you see this?
Because obviously you're one of the more outspoken critics of the FBI in the entire U.S.
Congress right now, and yet you're also a huge supporter of law enforcement.
So walk me through some of that.
Well, I see a night and day difference between our local law enforcement and the upper echelon and the FBI.
And, you know, that's not something that I'm just saying.
I think that's every single everyday American on the street.
You can't tell people out here in Rome, Georgia, or basically in any rural town or just Main Street America, that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are exactly the same as the great men and women in law enforcement that are just trying to keep our town safe.
They're night and day difference because you see the people like Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and James Comey and, you know, Christopher Wray and we'll even go with Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice.
These are political operatives that abuse their positions of power to attack their political enemies.
That is a massive difference than the great people that showed up at my doorstep two nights in a row.
And we're seriously taking their jobs very, very seriously, analyzing the situation.
And they didn't use any kind of politics in their decisions they made.
They made decisions based on the facts with what they could see and what they knew.
And that's the difference.
Now, I did come out and say defund the FBI.
After the raid on Mar-a-Lago and a lot of my critics have used that against me.
But the reason why I use the word defund is because when Republicans take back Congress and we're in power in January, guess what?
We can't pass laws because the White House will still be controlled by Democrats.
The one thing we have control over is the budget.
We control the purse strings.
We'll be writing the checks.
And so we can defund certain sections of the government.
I think we should do it.
So when it comes to the upper echelon and, you know, the thousands of people that work in the FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C., I think we need to take a close look there and say, who's really doing their job and actually enforcing federal law?
Or who is in that building that really just cares about taking down their political enemies?
Because we know what the FBI is.
We watched them.
They wiretapped Trump Tower.
We watched them raid Mar-a-Lago.
We've seen their agents go on mainstream media news interviews over and over and over and lie to the American people about President Trump and so-called Russian collusion.
So we need to take a hard look.
Congress needs to take a hard look at the FBI and who these people are and say, you know what?
No, you don't get a taxpayer funded paycheck just to use your position of power because all you are is a bunch of unelected bureaucrats and you're not going to use your position as a weaponized against the people you don't like in politics.
Our government is not set up for that.
It needs to be changed.
Law enforcement on the ground.
Let's talk about defund the police.
This is Democrats effort to create lawlessness in America all over our country and it has caused crime rates to spike.
Out of control.
And so when it comes to defund the police, you know what?
That is absolutely wrong.
We need to support our local men and women in law enforcement.
And if anything, we need to fund them.
We need to help them.
We need to support them so that they can hire more people because they are outnumbered and they are undermanned right now.
So the criticism on me is not warranted for the statements that I've made.
And I think the problem for the people criticizing me about it is they just haven't gone out to the streets and talked to all the people I talked to, because I can guarantee you right now, Jack, people agree with me on the statements I've made.
Well, I think, by the way, also one of the issues is that we saw this in the wake of 9-11, and I say this as a prior intelligence officer, that we saw this almost ballooning of the power of the FBI, and we took what was a national Criminal agency.
And then we added a huge national security function to it.
Counterterrorism, counterintelligence.
Now, they already had counterintelligence, but we really greatly upped the power of that.
We passed the Patriot Act.
We passed so many of these things that the civil libertarians, by the way, Ron Paul, who was a congressman in the House along with you, or, you know, prior to your arriving there, spoke out greatly against this.
Yeah.
It was obviously right.
It was just obviously right.
And so he said that if you do this, you are going to create mission creep and that's going to bleed over into everything the FBI does.
And I don't think people have a problem when the FBI is going after, I don't know, child traffickers or child pornographers or for example, You know, bank robbers and just crime in general.
Obviously, your bill, your bill right there, by the way, that would criminalize and make a felony the child mutilation, that would require federal investigation.
That would create a crime that would be investigated by the FBI because that's what we're talking about.
Crime.
Where the lines get blurred is when you add in this national security element And then the politicization of this organization in Washington, D.C.
And I think if I understand correctly, it sounds like that's what you're talking about.
Yeah, for sure.
Definitely.
I think you're making such a good point.
That is what I'm talking about.
But there's also this, like we can add layers to that.
And I come from a business background, so I understand it in that terms, is a lot of times companies just get over bloated.
They get over inflated.
They have too much overhead.
They've hired too many people with too many different titles and everyone's like fighting to do the same job.
That is what's happened in federal law enforcement.
So look at the layers we have.
We have the FBI.
We have Homeland Security.
We have ATF.
We have Border Patrol.
We have ICE.
We have the IRS, who apparently, you know, they need to be able to use deadly force.
But look at all the... 87,000.
Yeah, 87,000.
That's right.
That's something else the Republicans have to defund, by the way.
But look at all the layers there.
And so what it has created so much bureaucracy And it has created a serious problem into it's like which agency, which law enforcement part of the federal government handles which crimes?
Because if you if you go in and you look at all their websites, you find out that they're all doing the same thing.
And so the way I look at is I'm looking at it from.
By the way, Congresswoman, one piece that we actually broke on human events earlier this week, I want to make sure that you have this information.
You mentioned the IRS right there, the 87,000.
So in that bill, the IRS is now creating a centralized IRS office.
And the person that's been chosen to oversee this centralized office is named Nicole Rae.
Don't want to say it wrong.
Nicole Flax, excuse me, Nicole Flax.
And Nicole Flax, and you may not recognize that name off the top of your head, but you may recognize the person that she used to work for during the Obama administration, Lois Lerner.
So Nicole Flax was an accomplice of Lois Lerner Was another one of these people who, by the way, remember the email server went down and they couldn't find the correspondence.
She was one of the ones in communication with the Obama White House regarding the targeting of Tea Party groups, the targeting of conservative Patriot groups.
She has just been appointed, Nicole Flax, there's a name for you, to oversee this new centralized IRS office in the same bill that's hiring on these 87,000.
So we see again, The opposite of what you're talking about.
They're centralizing power, they're ballooning power, they're bringing their accomplices in, Lois Lerner's accomplice, to oversee the whole thing, whereas what you're talking about is no, target it, focus, strip it down, get people to understand that they need to focus on their mission.
Yeah.
Yeah, Nicole Flax definitely needs to be defunded, and so does that entire department.
I mean, there's an easy win right there.
Yeah, no, that's terrifying, and that should scare every single conservative.
That should terrify any Trump voter, and donor especially.
That would be a lot of small business owners.
That would be just, my goodness, so many people across the country.
Yeah, that is a serious situation, but And look at how they do centralized power.
But that's what we need to do is we need to decentralize power.
We need federal law enforcement agencies that do go after real criminals, the ones that are hurting children, the ones trafficking drugs, the ones, you know, doing such horrific financial crimes, kind of like Hunter Biden and the rest of the Biden family.
But we don't need we don't need people in the IRS and in these government agencies who have one pure motivation and it's political.
And this is this is exactly what you're talking about.
So, for me, just having the business background that I have, when you look at a company that is so overinflated, that just has way too much overhead.
that's bleeding money.
And that's what we are.
That's what our government is.
We're over $30 trillion in debt.
We have people abusing their jobs and they're corrupt.
So we need to use a scalpel type approach where we cut out different parts of each agency.
We shrink them down.
We want them to be laser focused and effective.
That's what we want these agencies to do, but we don't want them to be politicized.
And we don't want them, their power to be abused.
And so when I say defund the FBI, that's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about let's remove these factions and these political operatives is really what they are.
That's it, political operatives.
And we need to take them out and get these agencies back to focusing on real crime and not their enemies.
Well, a story that I'll tell you this quickly because I want to be respectful of your time, but the story that I was told by a fellow Intel officer years ago was about the UK and their experience with this in World War II.
So, everybody knows that UK has MI5 and MI6, right?
Well, where's MI1234, right?
Whatever happened to all that?
So, MI is military intelligence.
Well, during World War II, The UK government had this ballooned out all the way up to MI14, MI15, and it's exactly what you're talking about right now.
They had different agencies doing all sorts of things, and you had a lot of overlap, a lot of people doing the same thing.
Now, in the midst of World War II, sure, that makes sense.
But afterwards, they looked at the government and they said, you know what?
This is too much.
We don't need this in peacetime.
What we want to do is shrink everything down.
We're going to have one agency for internal national security, One agency for external national security, such as MI5 or MI6, and then for a national criminal office, they have Scotland Yard.
And so Scotland Yard is that national criminal office.
But one thing that's different between the US and the UK is that we do have our local police forces, which are run locally.
And I think Al Sharpton has said this once or twice publicly, I think the agenda here What they want is to demonize police so much in this country that we get to a point where we say, as a people, OK, we've had enough.
We don't want local police anymore.
We want a national police force centralized in Washington, D.C.
that isn't beholden to the people of that area.
It's not beholden to the sheriffs.
It's not beholden to the town council or the mayor.
It's beholden to Washington, D.C.
I want a police state, and every single American should be terrified of that.
I think you nailed it right there.
We have to do everything we can to prevent it.
I think we need to fund and we need to support and basically enhance the power of local law enforcement.
If anything, states, local law enforcement should be able to work together across state lines.
That's how you take power away from a police state and the federal government.
You empower each state's law enforcement to do their job because that's all they want to do.
Local law enforcement.
They live here.
They care about their communities.
Their families are here.
Their kids go to school here.
They're invested in keeping our streets safe at where we live.
But just as you said, if they're centralized up in Washington, D.C.
where they don't care what's happening in, you know, in, say, Rome, Georgia, or somewhere else in the country, then we have a real serious problem, and America becomes something it was never meant to be.
I think that's absolutely right.
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, thank you so much for your time.
Thank you so much for your candor with us.
And we're praying for you, the whole audience.
We want to make sure that you stay safe, your family stays safe, and hopefully they can catch the people.
We hear it's trans activists that were behind this that are trying to, A, take you out, take you off the battlefield because you've been so effective, and being the first Member of Congress in the entire country to step up and say we need to ban this horrific act, an act, by the way, mutilation of children.
And not only that, these gender dysphoria, these gender affirming procedures, which we've also seen, by the way, earlier this week, it was exposed that the University of Washington was lying about their studies, saying that, oh, the data shows this helps the kids with depression as they go through these treatments.
That's not what the data said at all.
It said there was no effect whatsoever.
Oh, so heartbreaking.
Thank you so much, Jack.
And listen, we just have to keep fighting to protect kids, and I think we can win this battle if we all jump in together.
God bless you, Congresswoman.
Thank you for joining us here at Human Events.
Thank you so much.
We'll talk soon.
I'd just like to thank once again Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene for spending time with us this Sunday for a special here at Human Events.
You look at her spirit.
You look at the fact that she isn't willing to back down.
In fact, if anything, this just makes her want to fight harder.
We need more people like that.
Imagine if we had 435 members of Congress with that much passion for doing the right thing for our country.
It doesn't always mean you're going to agree.
It doesn't always mean you're going to believe that your way is the best.
You don't have to all think the same, okay?
We don't want that kind of conformity.
That's the left ones.
What we want is people, our people, who are this passionate about their country and who refuse to be stopped.
And I will say this, though.
My biggest criticism, other than the people doing this, is for the members of Congress on both sides of the aisle who refuse to denounce these attacks on Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You should be rallying around her because when you do that, you rally around the sanctity of your own institution.
Show me where that is.
You haven't seen it.
You say you're against violence.
You say you're against hyper politicized statements.
Where are you calling out this violence, potential violence, used against Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene?
