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Dec. 31, 2021 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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HUMAN EVENTS DAILY: NATIONAL STRATEGY SESSION WITH STEVE BANNON

Steve Bannon joins Human Events Daily for a masterclass. This is the Official National Strategy Session for the populist-conservative movement as we move into 2022 and beyond. No noise, all signal.Here is your daily dose of Human Events with @JackPosobiecSupport the Show.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
This is Jack Posobiec, your host.
And today, like we're doing throughout this period right now, sort of between Christmas, between New Year's, we're taking some time out from the day-to-day, the hectic news cycle, to really step back and bring some people on, some important voices on, important thinkers, to understand where we're going today.
Take a step back, 30,000-foot view, and have a strategic sit-down.
And I said, who better than the chess master himself to do a strategic sit-down with?
We've got Steve Bannon, the head of the War Room podcast.
He was the chief strategist for the White House and the Trump administration.
I think he needs to know at the further introduction.
Steve, thank you so much for taking the time with us today.
I gotta ask a question, though.
Yes.
Well, I'm so used to having you in the war room or to have you Skyped in from your home or your terrific studio on Capitol Hill, but you look like you're in a five-star...
Is Charlie...
No, is Charlie got like the special digs?
That looks like you're at CBS or MSNBC. This is...
We're in the Turning Point Mothership.
This looks big league.
Yeah, this is the Turning Point Mothership.
It looks like the Starship Enterprise out there.
It's, it's amazing.
And this is only the first studio.
So for people who are only listening to the podcast, you really have to see this one because I think it'll sound better.
Number one, but also, I mean, you see the setup here, Steve, by the way, this is only the temporary studio.
You should see the thing that he's building out.
Um, it's going to be, it's going to be full, full, you know, I guess you could say Tucker level or even beyond that.
And, um, the stage over that we've just done for the America Fest, it's the biggest stage in all of conservatism.
You've never seen a bigger stage in conservatism.
That's the entire movement.
And I think that when a certain guy at Mar-a-Lago sees this stage, he's going to be, hey, I want one of those.
Yeah, exactly.
And why wasn't I there?
The more important...
Right, right, right.
But the big thing, though, is talking about where people are, but We always sort of talk around this, we dance around this, we get into a little bit, and then we always hit a break when we're on War Room or doing something else.
And the question that I have is, you know, how did we get to where we are?
How did we arrive at this moment?
And then...
What do we do, right?
You know, because you hear the one side and it's all managed decline, it's managed decline, Thucydides trap, you know, we are the empire in decline, we are the system in decline, the regime is just there to sort of manage this down, see if we can, you know, is Ukraine going to come with us?
Can we get a couple of things that, you know, while the place is falling apart?
Or is there a possibility for the people of this country, the people who love freedom and embrace freedom around the world, To actually stand up and say, no, we don't want to go into that dark night.
And if so, what does that look like?
And it is a bigger question.
And so I thought I couldn't think of a bigger thinker on these type of things.
Let me talk about how you turn it around.
You just said how we're going to turn it around.
What you and Charlie Kirk and Turning Point, look, the great thing about what you guys are doing, what I love about it, and I've sent obviously my daughter and all the younger members of our team out there to be engaged in this, is young people have to be involved.
Young people have to understand they have not just a stake, they have the stake in this turnaround from this 40 or 50-year decline of the Judeo-Christian West.
And we are in managed decline.
We're about to go to unmanaged decline.
Managed decline has been bad enough.
But right now, of all those different aspects you see every day, the Biden administration and things that are happening in Europe, we're about to go into freefall decline.
And what's going to turn it around are patriots and sovereignists, whether they're in India, Italy, United Kingdom, France, Brazil, the United States, Australia, Japan.
This is what's going to turn this around, and it's going to be led by young people.
I keep saying young people are the new greatest generation.
We've been in managed decline now for 40 or 50 years, and the reason is since World War II, or I guess the early or mid-60s, because we lost confidence in our underlying values.
Jack, you and I talk about this a lot.
It's one of the reasons.
I so love Eastern Europe, and I particularly love the captured, the captive nations of Eastern Europe and the Poles particularly, because they for so many years, really so many centuries, have understood how precious liberty is.
Look, I did the numbers on that, Steve.
For 173 of the last 200 years, Poland was either partitioned, occupied, annexed, or controlled by a communist regime, some foreign occupying power.
For 173 of the past 200 years, And that you look at Poland now since the 1990s, when they are threatened, when anybody comes at them, whether it's economically or whether it's physically with these caravans, you will not find any country, really, I think anywhere in the world, maybe Israel, that more fiercely defends their borders and defends their people.
Never again.
I mean, when you just said all that about people having control, that means you're a battlefield.
You have no stability, no civic society.
People cannot feel comfortable.
You've always got the specter of destruction or total control over your life and your children's lives.
Those people understand what sovereignty and liberty is, and I think that's what's Divine providence works in mysterious ways, and it was providential that the election got stolen On November 3rd, like it was providential, Trump won in 2016, because now the mask is off.
We see exactly what they are.
We see these globalists and how they're in business with the Chinese Communist Party.
It's all out there.
You've seen the struggle sessions, you've seen the cultural Marxism, you've seen the atheism, the absolute disregard for our sovereignty on the southern border, and then geopolitically and with our finances, it's all out there.
That's why you can't be in the middle anymore.
You've got to be on one side or the other, right?
You have to be on one side.
You either have to be with us or you have to be with the other side.
Well, you know, it's amazing that the great Libby Emmons from Post Millennial had a quote when we were on Tim Pool's show the other night.
And she said, you know, it used to be that...
We all had the same goal, we just had different ideas about how to get there.
But now it seems that only one side still has that original goal, and the other side has a completely separate goal in mind.
It's no doubt.
I mean, these are two different, totally different worldviews.
First off, our worldview is not just based upon religion.
It's based upon an understanding of man as a spiritual being and man as endowed with the Holy Spirit.
That's not the other side.
The other side is completely materialistic, totally atheistic.
Only believes in the here and now.
All of their efforts, all their meanness and anger is driven by that.
Some of this couldn't be clearer.
That's what I think, and that's what I like about this younger generation.
A lot of the older people are sitting there going, hey, this is tough.
I want to do it.
Don't get me wrong.
We've got great patriots that are older, and some of the older people in our audience are just fantastic, but it's with the young.
That I'm seeing this kind of fierceness.
Steve, this is not going to happen.
We're not going to turn this around in three or four years.
It's not any one election.
It's much deeper than winning elections, although they're very important.
It's actually about implementing change at a very fundamental level, and that is, as you know, Jack, extremely hard.
Well, it's something that I see so much with, you know, I'm kind of like an elder millennial, I guess, you know, 1980s, early 80s.
And one thing that I see with my generation is the wealth formation isn't happening.
The family formation isn't happening.
It's been delayed.
You know, people are watching these shows like Sex and the City and other ones out there where they're not building families and it says, hey, go have your career, go live your life, go have fun.
But Candace Bushnell, the creator of Sex and the City, came out and said, you know, I actually regret that I chose career over having a family.
And yet, why were they even pushing that in the first place to say that you had to have a career, you had to go into debt, you had to go to school, and then, you know, the financial crisis hit.
So they said, well, what are you going to do?
And I remember, Steve, my friend saying, oh, well, no, it's no problem if there's no jobs.
I'm just going to go into more debt, and then I'm going to go get a master's, or I'm going to get my PhD.
I'm going to stay in school because at least here I'm in my cocoon.
I'm safe.
So now finally...
The economy starts getting it back under its feet after 2016.
But you're now saddled with thousands and thousands of dollars of debt.
And the family formation isn't happening.
The home ownership isn't happening.
But I do see, though, you know, so much depression going on in that group.
I see so many just people realizing that, you know, they were given this dream.
They were given this ideal of, hey, you follow this path and then you'll be successful.
And they're realizing that the window is closing, right?
The window for all of those things.
If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now because you're talking to people that are looking at 40 and saying, hey, wait a minute.
I thought I was supposed to get done all this stuff.
How come it never got done?
But then Zoomers now, and this is what's so interesting.
Zoomers have that as an example.
It's their older brother.
It's their older sister that was going through this.
And they're saying, you know what?
I don't know.
I don't know if that's the way I want to go.
And we just sold, Steve, there were 10,000 people at this AmericaFest.
Every seat was filled, standing room only, and it was all Zoomers, college-age, high school kids who were there.
There was, I mean, you couldn't find anything else like this in the world.
They thirst for this.
That's why I think that It's interesting, the arc of Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson.
Charlie came from a libertarian, but also much more, I think, of a conventional limit.
I remember when he first started Turning Point, he would go talk to some of the donors I knew, and his pitch was fairly conventional as far as getting people engaged, kids engaged, libertarian, Limited government conservative, many of the same types of things Republicans talked about all the time, and to take over student bodies and the school, the political systems of the colleges.
Tucker, the same thing.
Tucker had been around for 20 years, before Daily Caller, MSNBC, and Fox doing these other shows.
Both of those guys today are fire-breathing, anti-establishment, populist nationalists.
They're not classic Republicans.
I don't really know of anybody that's more of a fire-breathing populist than Charlie Kirk.
I mean, he's quite frankly amazing.
People are thirsting for that.
You're seeing that intensity, that urgency, that focus.
Is not just innervating people, it is bringing them to a cause, and that causes sovereignty in our nation, this incredible constitutional republic that was bequeathed to us.
And of course, according to Burke, we owe as much to those that came before us as we owe to future generations.
That's why I think you're seeing this younger generation that is dawning on them that systemically, the way the system works, is you're nothing but a Russian serf.
You're better fed.
You have more access to information.
You're in better shape.
But you don't own anything, and you're not going to own anything.
And there's more of a concentration of wealth.
And you're just going to pay the rent on the asset, whether it's a house or apartment.
And you're just on this kind of wheel, the wheel of samsara.
And they give you a little bit of credit.
And you get a little more credit as you work harder.
But you're on just a continual wheel, like a hamster.
I think people are coming to the awakening to the fact that that's not how it has to be.
And in fact, it can't be free men and women cannot live in a society like that because that's really just building a kind of a proletariat.
And that's not what we're about.
That's why you know from your Polish descent and Irish descent that that's what we, you know, my family, that's what we left Europe.
We didn't want that.
That was the system they had in place, oligarchs, aristocracy.
We left that system.
And our DNA is to reject that.
That's what got us here generations ago.
And I think young people today, more than ever, and particularly people engaged, and it doesn't take a lot.
When you talk about AMFEST having 10,000 and Turning Point and all these people, a 10,000-person cadre right now in this country, informed, motivated, and using its agency, can change the world.
And it is changing the world.
It was those people who stood in the breach, and they had a message.
They're not going to win, and they don't have to win.
It's not inevitable that they're going to win, although they control high culture, pop culture, Hollywood media, the tech oligarchs, the woke corporations.
They control every branch of our government, the national security state.
It doesn't mean that they're one and doesn't mean we're going to agree that we're going to allow them to win.
You know, this was the this was the Marcuse and strategy, right?
This was the long march through the institutions.
Well, I think that for me, and I've been thinking about this, is that what we need is the long march through the people, the long march through the people of the United States, the people of the United Kingdom, the people of India, the people of Japan, the people, by the way, of China, the Lao Baixing the people of Japan, the people, by the way, of China, the Lao Baixing of China that and I got to know when I lived there I remember my host family.
I remember the people I met.
They're not some fire-breathing, card-carrying communist, right?
They just want to have their families and raise their kids.
They would have liked to have, you know, two kids, right?
They were only allowed to have one.
They're starting to open that up now.
But they want the same things fundamentally that we want.
And they realize that it's the government structures, the regimes, this sort of anti-progress type of mentality that's been imposed in front of them that's really what's driving all of this.
And so, of course, with China, it was the CCP. It was out in the open.
It wasn't sort of hidden in the way it was in the US. You bring a good point.
Just for our audience, because a lot of people may not realize Jack's fluent in Mandarin as a former naval intelligence officer's specialty is the Chinese military in China.
Lao Bai Jing is this term that we use.
It stands for Old Hundred Names.
Right.
The old hundred names in China is basically the common man.
It's a hundred last names essentially in Chinese.
It's been a saying they've used for millennia, old hundred names.
That's the little guy that's always getting screwed over by the imperial powers.
There is a global Lao Beijing.
Jack and I, because we're naval officers, had the opportunity to travel the world.
I've done it for business and at Goldman Sachs afterwards.
There's a global Lao-Beijing.
I come from American Lao-Beijing.
My dad is the prototypical blue-collar father who never went to college, who just worked hard as far as alignment in the phone company, eventually became a foreman, and then got into lower-level management towards the end of his 50-year career as a phone company guy.
What does global Lao-Beijing want?
They want family formation.
They want to get married.
You know, man and wife have the traditional family, children, but have an income That if their spouse doesn't want to work, doesn't have to work, that you can live on one income and the other spouse focuses on raising the family.
And this is a global drive.
And these people just want to be left alone.
They're all patriotic.
They love their countries.
They love their families.
They just want to be left alone.
And that's where you're going to get prosperity and peace.
And this can happen.
But right now, we've allowed this to deteriorate because of technology and capital and the concentrations of both.
There's something that the framers Would be revolted at.
This is not what they fought the American Revolution for.
This is not this oligarchy.
They would come back here and go, have you guys lost your minds?
If the landed aristocracy in England, what have you guys allowed to happen?
Because we also point out that The founders were very careful to not make the American Revolution and then the American Constitution into something that the French Revolution turned into, right?
So the French Revolution, they overthrow the monarchs, and then the guillotines start rolling out, and the priests start going, and Notre Dame gets turned over, and that's not what the American founders were about.
It was about traditionalism.
Yes.
Remember, the French Revolution, it was the social order, just like Mao.
Remember, the French Revolution is the railhead of all the communist, the Bolsheviks afterwards, the Nazis.
Go after the traditional family.
Yes, they go off the aristocracy too, but if you look at the French Revolution, the real revolutionaries was we have to break the core of society, right?
We will redo the calendar, the days of the week, you know, we'll get rid of religion.
They took Notre Dame and turned it into a temple to reason, right?
The cult of reason.
And this is so important.
Our founders did the exact...
It was a political revolution, not a social revolution in that regard.
We're the heirs to that.
But we've let that slip away as we've let the power of technology...
And this is one of the things that we now preach on the show all the time is this thing called transhumanism.
Yes.
Is that you're seeing...
And this is why I say climate change is another misdirection play.
Is climate change...
Hey, I'm not still sure of the math about it.
I'm still not convinced of it, whether it is more as the cycles of the sun or human efforts, but hey, there's an argument you can have and you can understand more.
But one thing I do know is we are hurtling towards something that is so revolutionary at this time when globalization has totally changed the planet and you have patriots sitting there for their sovereignty, fighting for the sovereignty of their own country so that their own nation makes decisions.
At the same time, you're having this exponential Acceleration in technology in these verticals of biotechnology, advanced chip design, robotics and artificial intelligence, and quantum computing.
You combine those five, we have, and every day you see these radical changes.
And I gotta tell you, Jack, it's the thing that worries me.
The battle I know we're going to win is to take our country back.
On that one, it's going to be tough.
It's going to be hard.
But this whole concept of human 2.0 is something that scares me to the core of my being because that is one right now that is ours.
We're fighting this other fight that is so out of control.
At AmFest, I'm sure Elon Musk gets 90% approval, but here's the reality.
Time Magazine and the Financial Times, for the first time I think ever, and I followed these two for my 67 years.
They both named him.
They both.
They both named him Man of the Year.
Right.
And his number one thing is not Tesla.
It's not the rocket ships.
He does all that.
But he's the greatest engineer of his generation.
He's the Thomas Edison of his generation.
Everybody agrees that.
This guy's a brilliant engineer.
His number one thing he's focused on, he tells everybody, is Neuralink.
It's the chip design in your brain.
And he's going to have a chip in your brain by November of 2022.
That is upon us.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a game changer.
Right, so when you have, you know, it's Oculus, right, and Palmer Lucky and everything, the video games that he set up, you know, that's a stepping stone.
The real goal is that, you know, and when they say you're not going to own anything, oh, you will own things, right?
You'll just own them in the virtual space.
You'll own them in Mark Zuckerberg's world because you'll be living in some little cubicle-type, uh, The commune apartment, Soviet block housing kind of thing, while the drugs are free-flowing throughout the streets, the crime, the decline of our cities is all around us, all around you, but you won't even know, because you'll have your Neuralink and you'll be plugged right into Mark Zuckerberg's world, and then you're gonna have all the fact-checkers and all the censors and the regime overlords and all of us on top of this.
Hold, hold, hold.
You won't know, and more importantly, Jack, you won't care.
The new drug will be, you know, the new spice.
From Dune, the new spice.
The spice must flow.
The spice must flow.
Very profound novel.
Very profound what he was trying to tell us.
Fear is the mind killer.
I'm telling you that meta...
Now, that's one aspect of transhumanism.
And you're talking about the whole digital self, right?
In the sense, remember, transhumanism as its core is post-homo sapien.
Homo sapien plus.
Well, Harari writes Homo Deus.
Homo Deus.
You know, the man is God.
Man is God.
The God man.
Life extension and you have life augmentation.
Human augmentation and life extension.
That's where it kind of converges to a degree in what Elon Musk is working with at Neuralink.
It's both massive human augmentation that takes what Palmer Luckey and those guys working with virtual reality is like...
That's like the Bronze Age of this, right?
Very early on, although Palmer Luckey is a genius, and what those guys are a genius.
The metaverse and what you're going to see on just your computer, even getting away from, it's going to be the embodied internet, is also just another step, but still like the Bronze Age Plus.
The chips themselves and artificial general intelligence, with the biotechnology, with CRISPR and the ability to change your DNA, then you're talking about, when I say human life extension, immortality, augmentation, something augmented beyond homo sapien, And then when you combine it with CRISPR and biotechnology, you're talking about human 2.0.
That will be, for people at AmFest, that is going to be in the lived experience of your life.
I think it's going to be the lived experience of my life.
It's definitely going to be the lived experience of your life.
And that's when all politics, culture and society, politics will change.
This is, and hear me now in December of 2021, this will be one of the most important issues, I think in 2024 at the latest, of future politics is this whole concept of And Steve, though, the way that we have to look at this, and I was a naval officer, you were a naval officer, look, we know that if you go back not very long in our past, we had something called the Industrial Revolution.
And the Industrial Revolution led to some of the greatest wars That this planet has ever seen.
Devastation and destruction of an industrial scale.
And Tesla predicted this.
He said, you will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
That's what Tesla said.
And when I see this type of technology, and I remember, and it was Vladimir Putin who said it, whoever wins the arms race of AI will control the world.
So you add the element of space in that, obviously, you add the satellites, you add the mining, then you also add The element of AI into this.
And I just think of how all of this technology, and of course, when Elon Musk talks about it, when all these people talk about it, they say, oh, it's going to be wonderful.
It's going to be amazing.
But I also remember the same way that I heard them talking about, oh, we're just going to, you know, we're going to take these viruses and we're going to bring them to a lab of Wuhan and we're going to give them gain of function.
This is going to be used for warfare.
So to your point, this is Schmidt and Kissinger's new book called AI. Right, from Google, right.
Basically, it's more important, or as important as the age of reason.
But the other book that's disturbing just came out, Jack, to your point, I Warbot.
Yes, exactly.
And this is a must-read.
The dawn of artificial intelligence, artificially intelligent conflict.
And you've summed it up.
Let's step back for a second to the Industrial Revolution.
When the steam engine, what, in the early part of the 19th century, The conflicts were horrible, and the Napoleonic War and all that was horrible.
But look at just the change in a couple of decades of the Civil War.
The reason that the slaughter in the Civil War was so horrific is Jack's point.
Technology started to get ahead of the tactics, the strategy, the concept.
The reason the American Civil War- That's how you're able to have light infantry.
Yeah, they all fought in Napoleonic terms, but now you actually had the weaponry and the machinery to do it, and that's what leading into the 20th century.
I think Jack's completely right.
I would love to be able to say that all of this is going to be sweetness and light, and we're going to take half time off.
The biggest thing we're going to worry about is the guaranteed income because you're going to have so much leisure.
I don't think that's going to work out.
I think it's going to work out.
Unfortunately, if you read your Bible, you know that human nature has not changed in 5,000 years.
Human nature has not changed since the fall.
It is immutable.
Hobbes is right about this.
The Bible is right about this.
And that is why it was handed down to us.
It is a necessary manual and a guideline for your life in any time.
And by the way, and I do say this, and I don't know if Charlie would agree with me when I say this.
But imagine if Christ came today, right?
He would be using these exact terms to explain this to us.
He'd be talking about DNA, and he'd be talking about dimensionality.
He would be, because he's using the understanding of the people that he's speaking to, to be able to, that's why he speaks in parables.
He uses the power of a story.
He talks about the mustard, because that was a nomadic desert culture that he was talking to.
If he came back 2021, if he came today, and he was teaching us again, these are the exact terms that he would be using.
And also about the Bible, I think this is the thing that haunts me the most about all of this when I study it and we're in the middle of it.
There was a time when Christ sent out, I think it's in Mark, that sent out the disciples and the apostles to go out and teach on their own for a while.
And they came back, and a couple of them said, you know, we've been doing some small miracles and healing people, but they keep saying that you gave us this power because you're Beelzebub, right?
You're a dark power, and that's how we were able to do this.
And it's all some sort of trick.
And he said, look, don't worry what people say about you.
Don't ever worry about that.
You can overcome that.
And they were very upset that they had talked against Christ himself.
He says, don't worry what anybody says about me.
That's never a point.
And he takes a pause as they think about it, and he says, look, I want to tell you, there's only one unforgivable sin.
There's only one eternal sin.
Yes.
And that is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
To blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
And every Christian apologist I've ever read has never been able to explain that Enough to make sense until we're here now.
The fundamental difference in what we're doing is that we are endowed by the Holy Spirit.
We are a temple for the Holy Spirit.
The merger of silicon and chips and changed DNA and biotechnology, man playing God, and regenerative robotics and artificial intelligence, that is not touched or endowed by the Holy Spirit.
That is the fundamental line of demarcation.
That, to me, is what Christ told us Over 2,000 years ago, that is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
That is the eternal sin.
That's the unforgivable sin.
And to me, that is what's leading us to a path.
Because in this regard, remember, every patriot that's watching this, it goes to human events, watch Jack's podcast, sees us on Tim Pool, come to the War Room, go to AmFest, or watch Tucker.
We're winning this one.
We are.
We're taking this back because we've sat there and we focused on the lies and misrepresentation of Biden, the globalists, and we're going to win this fight.
That, I'm sure, is the turning of the earth.
The other one?
That question's still out there, and that's going to be a tough one, because in this regard, the entire apparatus is allied against you, right?
It is allied against you, and it's so powerful and so overwhelming, and this is really the empire strikes back, and it's going to be incredibly important for people to understand it deeply and to see that this is a line of demarcation.
A thousand years from now, When they've forgotten everything that we fought for here on many different aspects, the one thing they will talk about is that these were the last years or decades of homo sapiens.
And that's what this age will be known as.
And it's, to me, very important that we're on the right side of the football.
We're on the side of football, that divine providence, that we're on the side of the angels in this one.
And it is a deep fight, a battle, and nothing more important, probably...
I say this reservedly in the history of mankind.
Because look, when I say, you know, when I see people like the CCP embracing these types of technologies, They don't have the same kind of moral guardrails that the West does or the West did at one point, right?
They don't have the Christian background.
They don't have the ethos.
They don't have the Bible.
They have, we want to win.
How do we win?
You take these policies...
You know it better than anybody.
They're atheists.
They're hardcore atheistic materialists.
They go and they say they want Taiwan.
They take...
But this is why life extension is so big.
Remember, we believe that this is just an interim step.
We're here for a period of human agency.
We have eternal life.
This is not eternity.
We have eternal life on the other side, right?
Even the Hindus, they think of cycles, but they think of the other life spiritually.
For an atheistic materialist, when it ends, remember what Robespierre and these guys put on the cemeteries over in revolutionary France.
Here lies eternal sleep.
It's over.
It's done.
There's nothing else.
Once it ends, it ends.
That is the core of atheistic Marxist materialism.
But also, there's no judgment.
Because this is the key difference, right?
It's not just eternity and you get passed on, and then, okay, you get to go to heaven.
No, no, no.
It's eternity in one place or another.
And that's the key difference, is that what we do here, it's the old line, right?
What we do here echoes an eternity, right?
The way you live your life, and for me personally, it's what I always say, is one day I'm going to be brought before those gates.
And the, you know, my guardian angel will be there and he say, here's all the things you did well.
And then Satan will be there and he said, here's all this stuff too.
And he's going to have every single thing listed.
He's going to have a big book and God will be there.
He said, Posobiec, I gave you a platform.
I gave you the ability to talk to all these people.
What did you do with it?
Did you bring them to me?
Did you bring them to me?
Weight and measured.
We'll be looking for mercy, not justice.
Weight and measured.
No, you're 100% correct, and that's why...
But if you're an atheist, that's not...
There's no breaks.
You want this life extended in perpetuity.
Look, Project Veritas, when they did the Facebook hit, the guy at Facebook was trying to impress the girl.
If you look at the three or four episodes he had, he's talking about how they were involved in politics and everything about Zuckerberg and Zuckerbox and all the things laid out.
But at the end, he said the real thing.
By the way, Zuckerberg and his wife don't spend all that much time with.
They're really focused on his life extension.
Immortality.
This is where most of this money is going, and transhumanism is life extension for the elites.
And also- Yeah, you think the Lao Bai Jing is going to get that?
No, no, no.
I don't think the Lao Bai Jing is going to get that.
You're the fuel cell for the Elysium.
This is how they institute Elysium, by the way.
They're up in Elysium, and everybody else is down here plugged into Neuralink and Zuckerverse.
Look, Jane Goodall said the private part out loud the other day.
She's interviewing.
She's talking about carrying capacity.
That's a concept I've heard them use behind the scenes.
In fact, when we restructured the biosphere, I got to know, back in the 90s, a ton of major players that became major players today.
They used to talk about the carrying capacity of the earth.
I was going, what are you talking about?
They want a earth.
That has somewhere between 500 million and a billion people in it, right?
That's what they said, and closer to 500 million.
Jane Goodall said they should give an interview, and they go, well, what's the perfect- they're talking about the environment, they said, well, things are so polluted, what's the perfect stabilization number for the Earth?
And she goes, oh, it's probably in the year 1500.
In the year 1500, there were 500 million people on Earth.
That's their goal.
500 million people, all elitists in Elysium, right?
And the rest of it's robots.
It ain't humans, and that's where we're going.
And that is not a conspiracy.
You can see that in their literature.
You can see that that's what they're driving for.
This is as obvious as anything in clarity.
This is what is going to be a massive, massive battle.
And you're going to see people reforming Reforming coalitions and alliances about this.
One of the first things about human augmentation, there's this new article that we've got up last week on the site, right before Christmas, was that About human augmentation, one of the guys who's not on our side of the football is arguing human augmentation's already started, and the start of that was the experimental gene therapy that was the mRNA vaccine.
Oh, wow.
He said, oh yeah.
So the idea is, right, so it's normalized, right?
So you've normalized the ability that you take something that allows your body to change your cells.
And of course, you know, it was done for proper purposes and spike proteins, et cetera, et cetera.
But now people say, oh yeah, I did that other thing.
This is, you know, that was fine.
Now, where do we go next?
But Steve, so I'm looking at the clock.
We're down to our last 10 minutes.
Okay.
We just, we went pretty dark.
We went pretty dark right there.
But as we're going into this, as we're going into the new year, right, we need to tell people, What do they do?
They're hearing this stuff.
This is all out there.
It's Elon Musk.
Everyone's pushing it.
You saw it at AmFest.
You saw it at AmFest.
You see what you do every day.
It's human agency and engagement.
You're going to be weighed and measured by, think about it.
There's roughly been 114 to 125 billion homo sapiens on this planet in its how many billion years?
Why did Divine Providence put you in this place, in this time and place, right here, in the Judeo-Christian West, and quite frankly, in the greatest country that this Earth, this planet's ever known?
With more access and ability to information and to knowledge, and not just that, to compatriots.
It's human agency.
You have to get engaged.
And quite frankly, you have to take it up a notch.
The way out of here is very simple.
If we have a cadre of dedicated, right, a vanguard of dedicated, focused, intelligent, hard as nails individuals, we will not only save this nation, We will save the entire Judeo-Christian West.
And in saving the Judeo-Christian West and being faithful to the core tenets of that civilization, we will save mankind.
And I'm not trying to be too grandiose.
That is what's on the table right now.
That is the stakes right now.
And if you don't do it, if people in this audience don't do it, It's over.
If people in this audience get engaged and stay engaged and have the same sense of urgency, energy, and action, action, action, we can pull this off.
We can save it, but it's only if this cadre and this vanguard is formed.
I like what I see.
I'm incredibly optimistic.
I come down every day.
I get up every day.
I'm working 20 years a day.
I would like to work 24 hours a day.
But I'm still a homo sapien.
But my point is that we...
By the way, real quick on that, did I overhear once that you kind of do the Edison thing where you're not sleeping eight hours a night, but you're sleeping in, you know, a little bit here, like when you're on deployment and you only have to get like...
I still do that.
Are you still doing that?
I do four hours, I get up, I do an hour reading, a spiritual reading, and then I go back for my other four.
I've done that.
The Navy got me in, I was in military school, but the Navy got me into the standard, all the mid-watches and the broken watches.
But that was even, I mean, prior to the invention of, you know, electricity and electric light, that was normal, right?
So people would, you'd go to bed at sundown, and then the candles, hey, candles are expensive, oil's expensive, wax is expensive, so you might only light that for a little while.
You're going down, but...
You're getting up one in the morning, two in the morning, and that's when you hear about what they used to call small hours, right?
That's why they call it small hours, because you're only there for a little bit, you're going back, and there's no, this whole idea of eight hours, you know, all night.
No, this is not a MyPillow promo, but, you know, you know.
Well, anytime I talk about sleep, I think about it now, but that actually is a modern...
You know, kind of modern conception.
That's something that we all take for granted now, but our ancestors were never doing anything like that.
That is because of technology.
And it's a way, there's something that we wouldn't even consider to question that for the majority of human history was not the way people live their lives.
Look, we can't all be Jack Posobiec, but we can use Jack Posobiec as a marker.
One of the things I'm...
I'm incredibly impressed with you, Jack.
I can get up any time and hit my device or go to my device and check your Twitter feed.
It's not just the engagement of what's happening, it's the breadth of ideas that you cover.
That's what we need to do.
This needs to be an immersive experience.
So people out there that want to know, and all you need is a Vanguard.
5, 10, 15, 20,000 people.
Look, Christ started with 12.
Remember, he started with 12 that nobody really showed up at the crucifixion, they all departed the pattern.
But Christ changed world history with just a handful of people.
We can do this.
And you look at Posobiec, when you look at Posobiec's Twitter feed or Getter feed, you see Someone that's immersed in it.
And that's what I think you have to do.
Remember, one piece of advice I can give you.
When you check out and you got to go stand and deliver with your final report, you know, with your guardian angel and then the bad guys on the other side, when you're arguing your case, you want to leave it all on the field.
And that's what we have.
The people at AmFest and other people that are galvanizing around these concepts, if you completely dedicate yourself, make it an immersive experience, and commit that you're going to leave it all on the field, first off, all of a sudden, you'll feel this great surge of energy and, hey, I have task and I have purpose.
And if you leave it all on the field, we're going to win this thing.
But that's the only way we're going to live it.
We can't.
We can't.
You're not going to be able to phone this in.
We're not going to be able to talk this through.
This is going to take action and it's going to take a lot of action over a sustained period of time.
But if we get that, we'll win.
One thing that I was actually saying earlier today, I was speaking to a group of young people, people who have been sort of nominated as Turning Point ambassadors, and it was a private thing.
And they asked, you know, what do we do to affect culture?
And I said, you know, and we got to talk, and someone actually asked us about Metaverse and, you know, how do we respond to that?
And I said, it's clear.
It's so clear.
Embrace life in its fullness, in its richness, live life to its fullest to take, you know, what you just said, leave everything out on the table, right?
When, when I'm with my kids, when I'm with my family, when I'm raising them, when I'm teaching our traditions, my family's traditions, when we pray in Latin, and I know that There were members of my family that were praying to their kids in Latin for a thousand years, right?
And you realize that you are part of that unbroken tapestry going all the way back, right?
That these are the traditions that sustained us.
This is what life is all about.
And guess what?
You know, we are all gonna check out one day.
And so I said to them, look, You don't have to be on Twitter and Getter and everything else 100 hours a day like I am, right?
But if you're out there, you're living your life, you're living that traditional role, you are standing up, you're finding your purpose, you're finding that task, you're fighting this thing, and you just show.
You just be a beacon.
You be that beacon in this world when there's so much darkness.
This, I really believe, I mean, everybody has different vocations, right?
Some people are called to the parenthood, some people are called to priesthood, some people are called to, you know, this way of life to sort of be truth-tellers.
John the Baptist was the truth-teller.
We saw, of course, what happened to him.
Because, and remember, I always say this, by the way, John the Baptist was not beheaded because he hated Herod or because he hated the king.
He was beheaded for the love of truth.
For the love of speaking the truth when nobody else would.
That's why he paid that price, but that's why we know that he's in heaven today.
At the same time, at the very same time, people are called to different things.
There's prayer warriors.
There's so many prayer warriors out there that are called.
My grandmother, Stevie, I never told you this, actually.
My grandmother used to wake up.
She had a weird sleep schedule.
She would go to bed at like 8 p.m.
We were just talking sleep schedules, but then she would wake up at like 1 or 2 in the morning, and then she would just be up for the rest of the day.
And what she would do is she had a notebook, and in that notebook, she would have the names written down of every single person that she could think of that she wanted to pray for.
And it was just hundreds and hundreds of names.
And she would say a prayer for every single person just going down that list.
And some of it would be abstract, like praying for the country or praying for children or praying for people in need, praying for victims of horrific crimes and trafficking and drug abuse and mental challenges and everything else.
And she would go through and pray for every single one of them.
And this was a vocation.
I really believe it was a vocation that was given to her.
And you would, you know, sometimes we find out, oh, grandma left her notebook downstairs again.
She lived with us when we were little.
And I think that there's so much that goes on and that people don't realize is going on in the Chinese house churches underneath the wicked regime of the CCP over there.
The prayers that are happening of the Uyghurs that are in the concentration camps, the prayers that are going on throughout the country.
I really do feel, and you know, I'll ask you the question as we're heading out here.
I feel like God is about to make a move and to make himself known.
And I think that somewhere within the next couple of months, next couple of years, something will happen where we're going to say, that was not done by man, that was done by a higher power.
I think you see that in the 16 campaign with Trump's victory.
I actually think you see it in the big steel.
I think you see it out at AmFest in Phoenix.
I think that divine providence is manifesting himself through this cadre.
And that's why you're called to this worker.
Look, everybody could go do something different and make a lot more money and have a lot easier life, make a lot easier life.
If you knew how much money they were throwing at me when I was in Shanghai and they said, you speak Mandarin, you understand U.S. politics, come stay here, you work in this one, you work for Disney, you work this client, that client, American Chamber, you know, and that's why I love when people say, oh, it's just doing this for money.
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
Do you have any idea?
I would have been a multimillionaire by the time I was 25 if I'd stayed.
Easily, easily.
I know people who are.
I know people who are, but that wasn't for me.
Well, that's because you're in the fight.
That's because you're Jack Posovic.
You got those two great kids, and Tony, you married up, as we say.
Oh, tell me about it.
Thank you so much for having me on the show.
I love Human Events daily.
Steve, where do you want people...
I mean, I think everybody knows where to find you, but...
I'm on Getter.
It's the only time I've ever gone...
I'm trying to be Jack Posovic, and I check my numbers every day to make sure I'm a bigger influencer than Jack Posovic.
Oh, you're doing the engagement because Jason has...
He showed me the spreadsheet before, but he hasn't showed it to me in a while.
Am I dropping down?
Is that what it is?
No, he did it so that Jason and I could catch up with you.
Oh, he's fortifying it.
He's fortifying the numbers.
Is that it?
You and Dinesh were like the power couple.
I said, Jason, we've got to learn how to do this.
Let's not publish this for a while.
Let's not show Dinesh and Prasovic until we're at least within hollering distance.
And obviously just go to the war room, but we're on it 24-7.
All right, Steve.
Well, God bless you.
And we're going to be continuing to pray for you.
And I don't know if I ever said this publicly, but thank you.
Thank you for so much for everything you've done for me, for my family, for giving me a voice, for having me as first guest on War Room Pandemic, just talking China and everything else.
And here we are.
It's been two years.
Can you believe that?
It's been two years, almost, you know, anniversary since the first War Room Pandemic.
And look where we are now.
Still in the pandemic.
Look, Jack, you're a special guy.
You've done some extraordinary stuff, and you've got a lot more runway ahead of you, but just great work with Charlie and the team, and great work on Human Events, and all your team there, and of course, the podcast, everything.
And obviously, you're a beloved member of the War Room team, so thanks.
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