CONTACT US: Email: paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter: @paranaughtica Facebook: The Paranaughtica PodcastContact Cricket: Website: www.theindividuale.com Twitter: @Individualethe We great you, with respect, and dignity.Welcome to the show. Today’s all about EIGHT different news headlines from the around the world – most being within the United States – but whatever. It’s a good episode because we talk about a heck of a lot more than just these eight headlines.But as for the headlines themselves, this is what we’ll be talking about:1.12 People Dead from Suspected Carbon Monoxide Poisoning ‘Accident’ at Ski Resort in the Former Soviet Republic of Georgia2.Raygun Quits Competitive Breakdancing After Performance Mocked at Paris Olympics3.A man told 911 a bear chased him off a cliff. Weeks later, he was arrested for murder4.RICHARD ALLEN UPDATE5.Court upholds sentence for Megan Imirowicz, who killed father with lye6.Oklahoma panel rejects man's plea for mercy, paves the way for final US execution of 20247.Former prison guard trainee is sentenced to death for killing 5 women at a Florida bank8. Imprisoned South Bay restaurateur comes clean in bid for parole: He cooked his wife’s bodyThere’s a lot to cover. What do you say we jump in there and get our feet wet?Don’t forget to Like, Share, and Subscribe....and give us 5-star reviews.CHECK YOUR LOCAL WATER TREATMENT LEVELS: EWG Tap Water DatabaseOh, to check out a small batch of Coops’ music, go to this this link — https://on.soundcloud.com/Q1XRaY9WSpzawV9r7 ***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help us out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. You can also go to the Facebook page where we have a link to Ko-Fi and Pay-Pal if you'd like to help out the show. We would greatly appreciate it! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
I mean, hey, that's valuable firewood right there.
And if it's felled, they're generally pretty dry.
No, it's wet as fuck because it's snowy and it's like ice.
It fell because it was so heavy.
The ice was so heavy on the branches.
Oh, way down on it.
And then when a big windstorm came, it was just like, oh!
Fucked it up, man.
Destroyed other trees.
Not sad, then.
Yeah. Pretty sad for those trees.
I had to go plant a couple more trees, then.
But yeah, now that it's felled, you have to cut it up for its fire hazard.
Once it actually does warm up.
Yep. It's all cut up.
I can get through the road.
Oh yeah, I got the four-wheeler out too.
I was pulling the boys behind the four-wheeler.
In sleds.
That's pretty awesome.
What are we doing?
Oh, intro.
Okay, intro.
Hello, and welcome to today's episode of...
And this is when you're supposed to say the name.
Oh, the Paranautica Podcast.
As always.
We're thrilled to have you join.
This is when you're supposed to start.
Oh. Us on this wild ride through the bizarre and the unexplained and the horrifying world of political theater.
It's widely known that here at the Paranautica Podcast, we don't shy away from the controversial and unusual.
We dive headfirst, backwards, into conspiratorial truths and those curious tales that make you raise an eyebrow or two.
Sometimes, one at a time, in mind-boggling repetition.
Or both at once.
It all depends on the hour.
So today, with politics aside, ladies and gentlemen, we're getting rid of politics.
I'm going to try my hardest not to make any reference to any political thing of political nature or anything like that.
So we'll be exploring eight fairly recent news headlines from around the globe.
With a spotlight on happenings right here in the old US of A. These stories embody the unexpected and remind us that there's always something intriguing just beneath the surface of the everyday news cycle.
The stories that just get pushed aside by powers that be to push agendas and social manipulation.
Getting a little political.
Alright. From the uncanny to the downright bizarre and brutal.
We'll sift through headlines that promise to get gears grinding.
So buckle up that Velcro as we embark on this journey together.
Let's uncover these headlines and see what strange wonders await in today's episode.
What do you say?
Alright, let's do this.
Politics is depressing as hell.
I'm down.
Politics, man, it's just getting rough.
It's just, uh, we need to take a break.
I often equated it to two people fighting in a sewer trying to get the other one dirtier.
Yeah, it all stinks.
You all wind up full of crap.
Yeah, full of fucking shit.
You get crap all over you no matter what.
Whether you're cleaner or dirtier, it stops mattering after a while.
So first of all, though, before we move ahead with this cricket, I've got a question for you.
It's a question for cricket.
Alright, what you got?
I think it's going to be a new segment.
Question for Cricket.
Let's see.
Question. Yes, question.
What technology company was founded in 1993 with the vision that the next wave of computing would be graphics-based?
The company took its name from the Latin word for Envy and features product families GeForce, Quadro, and Tegra.
See, that one I instantly knew.
As soon as you say G-Force, because I actually had one at one point.
That's NVIDIA.
Correct. Ding those bells.
Ding those bells.
I got a G-Force 2 way back in the day, back when they were not the giant company they are now.
Oh. Well, did you know that currently NVIDIA is facing an antitrust investigation by the U.S. Justice Department over alleged monopolistic practices?
That's really not surprising.
I mean, how many...
Other graphics companies can you think of at this point?
I have no idea.
I don't know any.
Like I'm thinking, is the ATI the one who makes the Radeon, I guess?
It's about the only one I can think of when I rack my brain that's a comparable competitor at the very least.
And I don't even know if NVIDIA makes that, honestly.
I'd have to look it up.
Who made the graphics card for PlayStation?
Like, the original PlayStation?
Oh, I'm not really sure.
I know they're, uh...
I remember SGI worked with them on their graphics, but I don't know if they ever did anything graphics cards-wise.
No idea.
Well, let me tell ya.
Toshiba! Oh, Toshiba made it.
Oh, it's Toshiba?
I would not have been it.
Well, Toshiba.
Yeah, Sony.
Yeah. That makes sense.
Yeah, I haven't gotten one in a good while.
There's kind of a lot of companies that were great at doing things that I wouldn't necessarily trust getting anything from now.
Yeah. I like their computers.
They have good laptop computers.
At least they used to.
I don't know about anymore.
I mean, if they don't, they're certainly the most popular.
And, I mean, what do you think about their logo, dude?
Being a spiral, like the Pizzagate spiral?
Or do you think it's just a representation of the all-seeing eye?
I mean, it could very well be an amalgamation of both.
I think it is.
But, I mean, it's definitely the latter, though.
Yeah, it's definitely an eye.
An all-seeing eye.
But that spiral.
That damn spiral.
Yeah, your graphics card's looking at you.
Fuck, they all are.
Scared. Can't even take a shit in privacy.
You know?
Uh, no.
Well, alright.
Strap your Velcro.
Let's get into this.
We're just going to be reading eight headlines.
So, what's this first one here?
12 people dead from suspected carbon monoxide poisoning accident at ski resort in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia.
This comes out December 16th, 2024.
The bodies of 12 people were found above an Indian restaurant at a ski resort in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia on Saturday, December 14th.
The bodies of 11 foreigners and one Georgian national, who had not been named, were discovered in a resting area on the second floor of an Indian restaurant in the Ghadari Ski Resort, Georgia's Ministry of Internal Affairs confirmed in a statement.
The 12 people died from suspected carbon monoxide poisoning, the BBC reported.
Quote, the employees of Mishada Tianetti Police Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in connection with the accident that took place in Ghadari, as a result of which 12 people died, started an investigation under Article 116
of the Criminal Code of Georgia, which implies negligent manslaughter, the translated statement read.
I don't think flooding carbon monoxide through your ventilation system to the point where you push out the air is, you know, a standard function in most ventilation systems.
Yeah. So who screwed up here?
Who did screw up?
Authorities stated that the deceased were employed in the same facility where they were found.
At the initial inspection, no signs of body injuries or signs of violence were detected.
The December 14th statement added, According to the preliminary information of the investigation, a power generator was placed in an indoor area, closed space near the bedrooms, which was turned on yesterday, probably after the power supply was turned off.
It's a good spot for a generator.
That's brilliant.
You know, that's where I...
And I'm like, is it a gas power generator by chance?
Or, uh...
It must be.
Just a diesel.
Diesel power generator.
The ministry stated an investigation is underway and interviews are being conducted.
A forensic medical examination has also been appointed to determine the exact cause of death, the statement said.
Godari is situated in the Greater Caucasus Mountains and dates back to 1987.
Shout out to 1987.
It boasts big mountains, one of the highest pristine ski areas and the cheapest ski pass in Europe, per its website.
The site states the resort's highest point is over 10,700 feet, or 3,279 meters, and that it has 46 miles of trails, or 75 kilometers.
The location also offers multiple restaurants, cafes, and appraisal ski bars, as well as spa centers and saunas.
And a built-in backup generator.
How convenient.
Built-in backup gas ran generator.
Yeah, why don't you put that on the brochure?
It's okay.
If the bower goes out, you'll just die.
The resort is a 90-minute near vertical drive north from the capital of Sibeliusi from CNN.
According to CNN, I don't think many people want to go there at this point until this all dies down.
No pun intended.
Yeah, that probably didn't really do anything for their, you know, lift ticket prices.
So I'll bet they're still the cheapest in Europe.
And probably cheaper than they were before, so you know.
You want to save a buck, just, you know, if you see a bright light, exit the room and get outside.
Yeah, go to Gadari Ski Resort.
And don't stay in this room where the bedrooms are and gas power generators.
Stay away from that room.
Yeah, I would hope that they would have gotten rid of that.
You'd think they would.
You never know.
So this next one, man.
This next one hits the heartstrings.
Pretty hard, dude.
It's the drop D of the heart, and I apologize in advance.
At number two, Ray Gunn quits competitive breakdancing after performance mocked at Paris Olympics.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
This was so hilarious, dude.
I'm sorry, people.
It comes from November 7th, 2024.
Sky World News, Sky News.
Rachel Gunn's much ridiculed routine in August included a...
Kangaroo dance.
Oh, that was so embarrassing.
Oh my god.
The whole thing was embarrassing.
So she insists she took the event seriously, but has now made a decision about future competitions.
The 37-year-old Sydney University lecturer failed to get on the scoreboard in all three of her competition rounds in August.
Her routines at the Olympics included unorthodox moves, such as a kangaroo dance.
She later apologized and said she was...
Very sorry for the backlash, but suggested much of the criticism was due to ignorance of the sport.
You just have to have a high IQ to understand breakdancing, is what she's saying.
Wow. And those awesome moves of a dancing kangaroo?
I mean, it was perfect pouching form.
I guess.
It was perfect form, and what she did, it's just what she did was not impressive.
It was not impressive at all.
I mean, the thing is, it wasn't like she did bad breakdancing.
She just didn't do really highly technical moves or anything.
She did stuff that most people could on the dance for.
She did moves that literally anybody who has never done breakdancing could do.
So, that was just the epitome of horrible breakdancing.
I mean, I've watched videos of...
Breakdancing competitions before it ever became an Olympic sport.
Yeah, I should remember.
And I mean, well, I mean, their legs wouldn't touch the ground for like 10 seconds.
And you're like, how are they even doing that crap?
Man, yeah.
So, I mean, like, have you ever seen them do that thing where they, like, swing their leg around?
Oh, yeah.
And pull their hands over it without ever touching their feet on the ground?
Yeah, they do that whole swivel of the hips and the legs go round and round.
Like on that Olympic, you hold the two bars and you do, yeah, the same kind of thing.
So I think a lot of it came not from other people's experience of the sport, but from the fact that she didn't realize that there actually is a very technical, rigid list of things and scoring system behind it.
Yeah, did she not realize that?
Did she just think that she could go in there and do anything and she would score high?
Like, I don't get it.
I mean, to use my prior example, when you see people doing that, they don't do that for the entire routine, and then I don't think I've ever seen one that they went into a kangaroo dance afterwards.
No, I've never seen a kangaroo dance.
It's the first time.
It's a very novice move, or a very, what is it?
It's a novel move.
Yeah, it's called, what was it?
I remember watching an instructional video a long time ago.
It's called like...
It's part of the top rock routine.
It's not designed to be impressive, but it's designed to transition into something else.
So you're supposed to do that once and then go into your next highly technical move.
Because there's two different forms, at least that's how the video is explaining to me, which was top rock and break, which top rock is when you're standing fully up and you do something to get back into the next break dance.
Break down onto the ground and break form and do the stuff.
You're standing there and you do a chicken thing with your arms and then you kick a foot out.
That sort of thing.
Yeah, exactly.
Just doing a really weird little dance really quick before you...
Keeping with the beat of the song you're doing it to.
Yeah, exactly.
And then you swing into your next little move.
Yeah, and it's like going into line dancing and just kind of deciding I'm going to improvise.
I know what a do-si-do is.
There's a level of technicality even if it's really simple and breakdancing actually isn't.
Did she even do any technical move?
Did she spin on her head?
Did she do anything like that?
I'm trying to think.
At one point she got down and did effectively about a third of the rotation that I was referring to before.
She did a few moves that equated to about a third of that rotation.
I mean, I mostly watched the video parts that people were making fun of, but the one time I watched her full routine, she did a few semi-technical moves.
I think more so the reason she didn't score at all was because she did so many extraneous things that they were unimpressed by and they deducted points for it.
Like the kangaroo dance.
Yeah, stuff like that was probably deducting points that she would have otherwise earned for her semi-technical moves.
Because it wasn't necessarily something that absolutely everybody could do.
It was just more a matter of, this was the Olympics level, and breakdancing at a local competition is already pretty intense.
Yeah, dude.
I don't think she got the memo.
So, this next part is kind of sad.
On the Australian radio station Two Day FM on Wednesday, she said she now only breaks at home with her partner.
Aww. Aww.
Sad. I mean, if you really enjoy it, you don't need to do it for anyone else.
Exactly. Like when I was a skateboarder, I skateboarded for me.
You know?
I wasn't skateboarding for other people.
I was doing it for me.
The only thing that's getting in her way is she can't handle people criticizing her, which is fucking pathetic.
If you're going to be a sports person in some capacity, whatever, and you're going to be doing this thing, you're going to be taking criticism no matter what.
And if you can't handle that, there's...
More underlying problems that you have.
Well, I could understand the urge to sell yourself and present yourself in a good light and point out the stuff you did good.
But at some point, you've got to acknowledge that multiple judges scored you a zero.
There's going to be reasons behind that that you should be looking into if you want to seriously compete at this.
Exactly. You're at the fucking Olympics, dude.
Raise the bar.
Raise the fucking bar.
Like, I mean, what if you did like the hammer throw and then you just decided, you know what, I'm just going to go outside this boundary line and like run an extra 10 feet so I set the world record.
And then they penalize you and you're like, what the hell?
Until I actually left the boundary, I was doing perfect.
She goes on to say, dancing is so much fun and it makes you feel good and I don't think people should feel crap about, you know, the way that they dance.
She told the Jimmy and Nath show.
Ray Gunn had initially planned to keep competing, but said the experience had been so upsetting that she changed her mind.
Yeah, dance like nobody's watching, but if they are, expect commentary.
I mean, she literally just showed how hypocritical she was in that one sentence.
Yeah, like why were you going out there and doing it for everybody then?
Yeah. And if you like it so much and you do it for you and you shouldn't care how you dance, then why are you changing your mind about dancing?
Well, the whole, like, everybody else is just ignorant on how breakdancing is scored and everything.
Just kind of says to me that she doesn't really want to improve, necessarily.
She wants to be mad that they didn't give her more points.
Yeah, I think she just wants to be one of those DEI types.
You know, these people who think that they can work less and be given more.
And unfortunately, you know, suspending your legs off the ground is very merit-based.
So at the time, she was offered mental health support because of some of the harsh reactions to her performance.
She previously defended her routine, insisting she did take the competition quote-unquote very seriously and hit out at the devastating abuse she has suffered.
Why is competition in air quotes for her?
It was a competition.
That's why she's mad.
But she's referring to it as an air quotes competition because, you know, it doesn't count.
Oh my god.
When asked by TodayFM if she'd ever compete at the Olympics again, she answered, No.
I still break, but I don't compete.
I think the level of scrutiny that's going to be there.
It's just not going to mean the same thing.
It's not going to be the same experience because of everything that's at stake.
Did someone say stake?
So, as videos of her performances went viral, so did conspiracy theories about her entry into the competition.
One of the most famous internet rumors suggested she was an industry plant who was entered to rig the big games.
Reagan said those theories We're totally wild and impossible to process.
How do you rig the games by losing yourself?
Like, that doesn't really control for anybody else.
She was sent there as an industry plant.
To do what?
By the breakdancing industry?
And to do what?
Like, lower the bar?
Try to get people to start lowering the bar?
She was sent by the industry to trick people into believing that disappointing dance routines are amazing.
If that's what the people want to see, it's disappointing routines.
Be like, no, this is good, because...
Unless they get hurt, then yeah.
I mean, what I'm hearing is she's starting her Vaughn villainous arc, and she's going to move on from here to become a part of Spectre.
Probably. Joining forces with Hayley Welch, who has recently awoken from her two-week sleep.
Yeah, so she just bounced out after she got caught swindling millions of dollars from people in her fucking shitcoin, whatever the hell that thing was, and sold out, ran off with all of their money.
They're all broke and pissed.
She went silent for two weeks or so, and has finally re-emerged and is saying it wasn't her fault to contact her lawyers.
To get it all situated or something.
Yeah, it was very much a lawyer-crafted response.
Yeah. I'm like, you went from your usual tone to I am cooperating fully.
I am cooperating fully is such legalese.
I'm like, if you were cooperating fully, that would not involve disappearing and going off the radar for two weeks.
So I'm like, unless this entire two weeks has been spent arbitrating behind the scenes.
Which probably was not.
She was probably just out there riding fucking boats and drinking and doing all sorts of dumb shit with other people's money.
Yeah, probably just thinking, ah, people forget about it in a couple weeks.
People won't even remember.
And I'm like, well, the news cycle will forget you.
But I'm pretty sure that the people who got cheated didn't just suddenly be like, well, two weeks from now, what's this new shiny news story?
I didn't just lose millions of dollars.
So funny.
I know.
It's like, as much as everybody jokes that you deserve to get cheated, no one actually deserves to be cheated out of their money.
And that's not fair.
So she deserves to get...
No, it's bullshit.
This woman, Hayley Welch, deserves to be in jail.
Probably in prison for a little bit for doing this.
This is definitely a Ponzi scheme that she carried out.
I mean, the trick with it was...
And it's not just that she was doing a Ponzi.
A lot of people were saying that there's another element to it where there were unmarketed assets that were being sold.
Really? Effectively, what they're alleging isn't just simply that they rug-pulled by sniping it with a bunch of speculation and stuff, which is just meme coins.
That's what you're going to get.
The best you're going to get is being one of the people who wins before the rug-pull.
It's just the rug-pull was awfully quick, and what they're alleging is that there was actually a lot of assets that were owned already of these meme coins.
By people that actually set up the coin and were then sold after the initial offering.
Drove up the price, which then rug pulled the hell out of it by flooding the market.
Because I guess it was a huge percentage, like 93% or something.
It was mind-blowing.
So just imagine you've got 7% of something and it's worth a certain value.
And then suddenly you have 100%.
Well, you've got 7% of something, it's worth a certain value because of supply and demand.
And now suddenly, after 7% people buy that, there's 100% of them out there.
Yeah. Like, I don't know if the over-leveraging was, or the, that's the part that they're alleging is illegal, is the over-leveraging on that is necessarily that high.
But, yeah, supposedly that is the real stink behind this and why she effectively went to sleep.
Because, yeah, that was a pretty big stinking deal above and beyond just a Ponzi to cheat people that are chumps.
Mm-hmm.
Just the whole story of how she even became to be who she was in the public light and then goes to that.
But let's get on to this next story.
All right.
A man at number three.
A man told 9-11...
9-11.
A man told 9-1-1 a bear chased him off a cliff.
Weeks later, he was arrested for murder.
Moira! So this comes to us from November 12, 2024.
In mid-October, a man called police in eastern Tennessee claiming a bear had chased him off of a cliff, but authorities arrived on the scene to find the body of a different man, sparking a multi-state manhunt for the caller that ended with his arrest on murder charges this weekend.
Authorities say Nicholas Wayne Hamlet, 45, befriended and lured his victim into a wooded area to take both his life and identity.
Hamlet, who was using an alias at the time, After the October incident, another warrant was issued for Hamlet's arrest on first-degree murder charges in Monroe County,
Tennessee. State and federal authorities warned that Hamlet, whom they considered dangerous and potentially armed, was known to travel under aliases.
They urged Hamlet to turn himself in and ask the public for help.
The U.S. Marshal Service offered up...
$5,000 for information leading to this man's arrest.
After many weeks of searching and on one Halloween night spotting, Hamlet was taken into custody in Columbia, South Carolina on Sunday.
Suspicions were immediately aroused when he was seen holding a skull.
It's fucking Halloween, man.
I knew him well, Mercutio.
After observing Hamlet at a local hospital, A good citizen alerted the authorities and brought this manhunt to a peaceful end, Monroe County Sheriff Tommy Jones said in a release.
Tommy Jones?
So wait.
The actor?
Tom Jones arrested Hamlet.
So that would make him the prince.
It does.
Well, he's going to put a plague on both their houses.
Yes, dude.
Columbia police say a hospital employee recognized Hamlet and alerted authorities who verified his identity using fingerprints.
They say arrangements are being made with Tennessee to extradite Hamlet to Monroe County.
What happened in the woods, though?
Right? Yeah, and why would you self-tell on yourself and fake a story about a bear?
I don't know.
This is crazy.
Alright, so the Monroe County Sheriff's Office says a distressed hiker called 911 shortly before midnight on October 18th, claiming to be a Mr. Brandon Andrade.
Ron Andrade.
He advised the dispatcher that he had fallen off a cliff while running from a bear, adding that the call came from near a bridge on the Cherahala Skyway, a 43-mile National Scenic Byway in Toledo Plains.
The distressed caller claimed that he was injured and partially in the water.
According to the dispatch call obtained by the Knoxville News Sentinel, the male subject had hit his head and was unable to move, and his phone only had 2% battery.
Unable to get him back on 911.
Search and rescue teams pushed to the area and found a man's body with an identification of Mr. Brandon Christopher Andrade on his persons.
He was transported to the Forensic Center while investigators combed the scene.
After further investigation, detectives determined that the deceased man was not Brandon Andrade.
In fact, they said that identification had been stolen and used on multiple occasions.
In this case, as they quickly discovered by Hamlet.
Mr. Hamlet had used a false name when speaking with law enforcement in Knox County, in Tennessee, after the distressed hiker called.
Before his real identity had been verified, Mr. Hamlet is believed to have fled from his Tennessee residence.
That set off a multi-agency investigation by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, FBI, and others to locate Hamlet and identify the victim.
So who was involved?
On November 4th, the Monroe County Sheriff's Office announced it had identified the victim as 34-year-old Stephen Douglas Lloyd of Knoxville, Tennessee.
It said Lloyd, a foster child who had been adopted by a great, loving family, suffered from trust issues and mental health issues, including reactive attachment disorder.
Stephen was known to leave home and live on the streets, but kept in contact with his family, the Sheriff's Office said.
Stephen loved the outdoors and was so helpful when it came to others.
The family was shocked to learn that their beloved son's life was taken by someone that Stephen actually trusted.
Authorities did not specify how long the two men had known each other, but said Hamlet met Stephen, befriended him, and lured him into a wooded area to take Stephen's life and take his identity.
Officials said at an October 30th press conference that Lloyd's cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head.
Adding that his injuries were not consistent with a bear attack or a fall from a very high elevated cliff.
They also said his killing was not an isolated incident by any means, given Hamlet's violent criminal history.
Hamlet was arrested in Alabama in 2009 over an incident in which he held a man at gunpoint and attempted to hit him with a baseball bat, with plans to eventually bury his body in a rural area.
Citing court records, the site says Hamlet was going by the name Joshua Jones when he approached the victim so he could get some insurance.
Hamlet, who had four prior felony convictions, was charged with attempted murder and kidnapping, but ultimately pleaded to the lesser offense of felony assault.
So he was just going to seg on to another identity casually.
Like, oh, here's another person.
I'm gonna just kill him, take his stuff.
It's like this dude does this.
He sets up to-do lists.
It's so casual for him.
Like, yeah, but I was just holding him at gunpoint.
Gonna hit him with a bat and bury him in the woods.
Steal his identity.
Jesus, dude.
And then life goes on.
Not a big deal.
Cold psycho right here.
You gotta wonder, like, how many people do this and get away with it?
Like, how many people are living with a fake identity right now?
Yeah, that's a more horrifying thought, is that, you know, this guy's the one who got caught doing this.
But not everyone necessarily gets caught doing this.
No. No, dude.
So, this guy Hamlet here, he was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 2012, and paroled in July 2016.
So... In the weeks after Lloyd's death, authorities urged the public to be on the lookout and for Hamlet to turn himself in.
Let's end this peacefully.
Turn yourself in.
Have your day in court.
Joseph Carrico, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Nashville Field Office, said at the press conference, We will find you, no matter where you hide.
He went Jerry Seinfeld there.
But then he hid behind a copy of the Constitution and no one could find him.
No one found him there.
He's right behind me, isn't he?
Behind that copy of the Constitution.
I'm sorry, I can't look.
Authorities warned that Hamlet has ties to Tennessee, Montana, Alaska, Kentucky, North Carolina, and Florida, suggesting that he had fled to another state.
And their hunch proved correct.
On Halloween night, police in Chapin, South Carolina, Where Hamlet apparently has family, said he was reported to be in the area and urged trick-or-treaters to be extra vigilant.
They confirmed that he was spotted near the local high school in the early morning of November 1st and that state and federal authorities were searching the area.
I mean, he was very concerned.
An insane psychopath was on the loose.
He had to make sure to warn the kids.
He's running around himself.
Yeah. Hey, there's a dangerous person out here.
How do you know I'm the dangerous person?
So their efforts were unsuccessful in finding him that night or the next day or the following week.
So the following Friday, a week after the sighting, police said Hamlet was no longer believed to be in town.
Two days later, he was spotted at the hospital in Columbia, about 25 miles away.
Officials with Carolina's Region Fugitive Task Force said a dehydrated Hamlet had checked into the hospital as a John Doe.
That's where police say an employee recognized him from a wanted poster.
The sharing of Hamlet's wanted poster led the public, whom is our most valuable source to act as our eyes and ears, Jones said.
Wow. I don't know.
So he was just, yeah.
Just getting ready to seg on to the next life.
Yep. So we have a serial killer here then, huh?
Yeah, that's the real trick.
This is the part of the story that we know also.
To go back to they don't always get caught, this dude might not have been caught before.
This is the one he was caught for, and he was caught before doing it to somebody else.
But, you know, how long was this going on?
That's a good question.
But yeah, I'm more than a little disappointed that he did not dress up as a bear again on Halloween for the kids to be extra vigilant.
I feel like that would have made this story more awesome and not just disturbing.
That would have been awesome.
That would have been such a great touch.
I feel like he really missed out.
If you're going to secure your creepy legacy and you're already an awful person, do some theatrics for God's sake.
Come on.
Yeah, get that fucking bear suit out, bro.
Come on.
You gotta, like, go full circle with that shit.
So this next one, number four, have you heard of Richard Allen, Cricket?
Do you know who that is?
Richard Allen.
The Delphi murders?
It just happened.
Don't think so.
Okay, well, this is gonna be a Richard Allen update, okay?
Richard Allen, the primary suspect in the 2017 murders of Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, was found guilty on November 9th, 2024.
A former drugstore worker in the small Indiana community of Delphi was found guilty of murder on Monday in the killings of two teenage girls who vanished during an afternoon hike.
Allen wasn't arrested until five years later.
While the case drew outsized attention from the true crime enthusiasts, his trial followed repeated delays, a leak of evidence, the withdrawal of Allen's public defenders, and their reinstatement by the Indiana Supreme Court.
Dang. Why'd they withdraw, I wonder?
If I can remember correctly, the guy was just not all there.
He wasn't working with them, and he was drooling all over the place.
Well, because you're obligated to defend somebody, even if you know they're genuinely guilty.
At the same time, this means this dude was probably so crazy that he...
Lashed out at his lawyers.
It's possible.
They were probably just like, you need to concede, you're dead to rights.
And he's just like, rah!
Try to go for the face.
Biting me will not approve this.
You're just going to get extra charges?
Reporters inside the courtroom said Alan, 52, showed no reaction as the verdict was delivered, but he looked back at his family at one point.
Allen is scheduled to be sentenced on December 20th.
He faces up to 130 years in prison.
So, alright, let's see what the outcome was on that.
Richard Allen sentence.
He got the 130 years.
The total lack of remorse could not have helped him.
No, not at all.
But, yeah, that was the maximum they could give him, and that's what he got.
They gave him the full.
Yeah, well, usually, like, if you get leniency...
It's... When you take a plea deal?
Yeah, or at the very least, like, do some level of sympathy garnishing.
Yeah, that too.
Like, you know, make him feel a little bad for you or something.
Like, maybe things were rough for you, as opposed to just, I'm genuinely nuts and would have done this no matter what.
It's not going to help.
No. Nothing helped him.
But yeah, from the sound of it though, yeah, genuine sociopath.
So probably...
Could have faked emotions, but just was, but just literally so gone in terms of emotional understanding that he didn't realize he should have.
Well, it's interesting because this guy was like...
Psychos could fake being emotional.
Yeah, definitely.
Very well.
But a lot of times the trick is, is as a psychopath, you don't really recognize people have emotions or even remember half the time.
And like, so this guy, I think he was like a pharmacist or some sort of, he had a career.
And so he had that part of his life, but I don't know, man.
Maybe he just went off the deep end.
Well, you know, psychopaths can be very charismatic and advance very far because they don't care who they screw over as they advance.
When you're willing to step on anybody, you can get very high up very quickly.
That's part of why being a psychopath ends up being a benefit.
To the person doing it and then a detriment to everyone else.
Yeah. So I guess, like, what I'm saying is, like, this guy wasn't just some random, like, fucking vagrant or something that had mental health issues and he did this.
This guy was, like, he had a career.
Oh, yeah.
A freaking career.
That's true.
I guess you always assume these are, like, you know, crazy people, like, screaming at the sky up until they did this nutty thing.
Yeah. But then you have to keep in mind, again, like...
A lot of the actual genuine psychopaths are actually very with it when they're not doing horrible stuff.
Yeah, like look at all the politicians.
They're very composed.
It's actually a lot more horrifying because...
At least the ones that are emotionally unstable, you can recognize it's about to happen.
Like, oh, that dude's raging out.
Better get away from him.
As opposed to these people, it's like, they're no warning.
It's like a highly respected doctor from what I'm hearing.
Because you know if he was disgraced in any way, that would be in there.
And the fact that he didn't get nailed until seven years later probably had a lot to do with that reputation making him look so good.
Like, not only can you stealth, but at the same time, and once you start getting little breadcrumbs, it's hard to believe it, because it's like, why would this guy do crazy stuff?
His life is good.
It's a lot harder to understand if he ain't a psychopath.
Yeah. Which, again, works to the benefit of psychopaths.
Just why they're overrepresented in politics and murderers.
It really is, too.
So, a special judge oversaw the case.
Superior Court Judge Fran Gull.
who, along with the jurors, came from northeastern Indiana's Allen County.
Seven women and five men were sequestered throughout the trial, which began October 18th in the Carroll County seat of Delphi, the girls' home of about 3,000 residents in southwest Indiana, where Allen also lived and worked.
The prosecutor, Nicholas McClayland, said that Allen had repeatedly confessed to the killings, in person, on the phone, in writing.
And in one of the recordings he replayed for the jury, Alan could be heard telling his wife, quote, I did it.
I killed Abby and Libby, end quote.
Doesn't exactly sound like an emotional response either.
Just, uh, yeah.
Like you'd recount, like, oh, what did the weather predict for later?
That level of importance.
Right. Like, it doesn't really sound like...
It was coercion.
It was just a matter of, did you do this?
Yeah, I did it.
Is that bad?
Is that bad?
Did I do something wrong?
It's like, uh, yes.
McLeland also said Alan is the man seen following the teens in a grainy cell phone video recorded by one of the girls as they crossed an abandoned railroad trestle called the Monon High Bridge.
McLeland said it was Alan's voice that could be heard in the video telling the teens, Down the hill.
After they crossed the bridge on February 13th, 2017.
Their bodies were found the next day.
Their throats were cut in a nearby wooded area.
An investigator testified that Allen told him and another officer that on the day the teens vanished, he was wearing a blue or black Carhartt jacket, jeans, and a beanie, similar to the clothing that was worn by the guy on the bridge.
McClellan said an unspent bullet was found between the team's bodies, and it had been cycled through Allen's.40 caliber 6-hour handgun.
Allen...
Alan was arrested in October of 2022.
He had become a suspect after a retired state government worker who volunteered to help police in the case found paperwork in September of 2022 showing that Alan had contacted authorities two days after the girls' bodies were found.
That paperwork indicated that Allen had told an officer he had been on the hiking trail the afternoon the girls went missing, according to testimony.
Allen's defense argued that his confessions are unreliable because he was facing a severe mental health crisis while under the pressure and stress of being locked up in isolation, watched for 24 hours a day, and taunted by people incarcerated with him.
A psychiatrist called by the defense testified that months in solitary confinement, Could make a person delirious and psychotic.
Which it certainly can.
I mean, that MKUltra...
Yeah, that makes lots of people that aren't crazy to be crazy.
So, yeah, that could definitely happen.
Yeah, and everybody's different.
So, like, one person in solitary confinement one day might drive that person absolutely nuts.
Another person, it might take 25 years.
I'm a little confused by this part where he approached them, though.
What do you mean?
Like, uh...
Originally, it said that...
Let's see...
Because he was walking behind them across the bridge and he was like...
It said that he talked to...
Oh, it said...
No, it said that he...
Well, but after their bodies were found, it said that he contacted them.
Oh, the cop.
Yeah, yeah.
Why would he talk to them?
He was probably trying to like...
I'm very confused by that.
And more importantly, when he's talking to them, why was he...
Was this before or after he was locked up?
Before. So, when was his confession coming?
That's what confuses me on this.
So back then he didn't confess that.
Yeah. He just told them he was on the trail and they followed the breadcrumbs.
Okay, so this part where I said the prosecutor said that he had confessed to the killings in person, on the phone, and in writing.
I think there he was in jail at that time.
Okay, that's what I was thinking.
Because I was wondering if that meant that he called them and said he did it and tried to turn himself in or something.
No, no.
I'm like, why wouldn't he have just been arrested then?
Yeah, so he was arrested and then he started confessing in all these different ways.
Yeah. It does kind of still beg the question of why the hell would you reach out to them to talk to them?
I don't know.
Who the fuck knows, man?
These people are crazy.
Maybe he wanted to see how close he could get without getting caught.
Yeah, who knows?
So many different motives.
Yeah, sometimes they just like to see if they can get away with it.
But Dr. Monica Walla, Allen's psychologist at the Westville Correctional Facility, said Allen shared details of the crime in some of the confessions, including telling her that he slashed the girls' throats and put tree branches over their bodies.
She wrote in a report that Allen told her, I mean,
it's one of those examples where you shared way too much.
Yeah. The detail about in my van.
Yeah, if he was down there and he said he stopped because of bridge.
Yeah, I mean that.
Yeah. Damn.
Yeah. Hmm.
So during cross-examination, Walla acknowledged that she had followed Alan's case with interest during her personal time, even while treating him, and that she was a fan of the true crime genre.
Isn't that against rules?
Uh, good question.
Rozzy said in his closing arguments that Alan is innocent.
He said no witness explicitly identified Alan as the man seen hiking on the trail or the bridge the afternoon the girls went missing, and he said no fingerprint or DNA or forensic evidence links Alan to the murder scene.
Quote, he had every chance to run, but he did not because he didn't do it.
"Razi told the jurors.
Allen's lawyers had sought to argue before the trial that the girls were killed in a ritual sacrifice by members of a white nationalist group known as the Odinists who follow a pagan Norse religion, but the judge ruled against that, saying the defense "failed to produce
admissible evidence" of such a connection.
Blame it on the Odinists.
They just kind of threw it out there, thinking, like, it's somebody else.
They did it.
That's just out of, like, scattershot.
Like, maybe this'll work.
So in the end, here, Richard Allen has been sentenced to 130 years in prison for the killings of those two teenagers from 2017.
So that's good.
Good. Now we can pay for all his meals, warm bed, do shares with another guy, all that good stuff.
Yeah, pretty much.
Wow. Yeah, there's a lot of suck-ass parts of it.
Everybody's all like, but they get to eat and sleep out of the elements.
I'm like, eh, kind of.
Conditions aren't that great.
In the same way, an animal in a cage isn't going to die or anything as long as they're fed.
Exactly. The bare minimum, they're going to live and be out of the elements.
But that would still suck if you had a pet that you just kept in a cage all day and didn't do anything with them.
Fuck yeah, dude.
What's the point?
Why would you have a pet you kept in a cage all day?
Unless it was like a snake or tarantula.
So it's like, yeah, the whole argument that they're somehow gaining from being stuck in there, I'm like, yeah, if you wouldn't do it to a pet, you're not going to argue that a person's going to enjoy that.
People have a little more of a craving for intellectual stimulation, so they go even more nuts when they're stuck inside of things.
Yeah, fucking extroverts.
They would have a much more difficult time than an introvert.
Yeah, an introvert would just need a book.
Give me a book.
I'll be good.
So, what's the next one here?
Oh, shit.
December 4th, 2024.
Alright, from Detroit.
A Michigan teen convicted of causing her father's death by dousing him in a mixture of water and lye will be released from jail after her sentencing on Tuesday.
Can you believe this shit?
On June 15th, Megan Amirowicz was convicted of unlawful possession or use of harmful devices causing death in the death of her father, Conrad Amirowicz.
Judge Valentin...
He imposed a sentence of one year in jail and five years probation and gave her credit for the 17 months she already served.
Quote, This is a serious crime that you have been found guilty of.
The court does not believe that a child your age knew or understood the consequences of throwing the items at your father or the damage it would cause him.
End quote.
Judge Valentin said, Uh, you know how old she was?
Cricket. She's fucking 18. This isn't a child.
She's a fucking...
A goddamn adult, dude.
I gave him a fight club treatment.
Holy crap.
I mean, you're old enough to know that you throw a burning chemical on somebody, it's gonna hurt them.
Yeah. Exactly.
At 16, you're old enough to know.
At 12, you're old enough to know.
Fuck what?
At, like, probably 6, you're old enough to know that throwing something is probably gonna hurt, and it's not good.
You might not understand the consequences, but you know what you're doing.
You know the actions you're taking.
Yeah. Just engage in a little, you know, amateur alchemy.
Amateur applied alchemy, no less.
So, this is bullshit to me, dude.
I hate this.
I hate these kind of stories.
Like, I wonder if it would be the same if it was a dude.
I mean, the thing to really note is that this is not like a peaceful poisoning.
This would hurt really friggin' bad as you die.
It's a long death.
Like, it would burn the whole time.
Until your nerves were gone.
Yeah, so let's read more into this.
The prosecutor, Jason DeSantis, immediately objected, saying the sentence was not proportional or reasonable to the crime the defendant was convicted of.
A person died horribly, period.
DeSantis also requested a GPS tether for the duration of her probation, which the judge denied.
Prosecutors had asked the judge to sentence Amirowicz to seven years.
Michigan's sentencing guidelines set the sentence between 51 and 85 months, according to the prosecutor.
Judge Valentin noted the objections, but held fast, though she did agree to a mental health assessment and review in six months.
The judge would go on to say, quote, I expect you to do good things, Ms. Amirowicz.
Carry on your father's name, end quote.
Okay, that's definitely not something that they would have said to a dude after they just murdered somebody with acid.
No. No, this whole thing is fucking ridiculous.
Like, this judge should not be a judge.
Or a chemical burn, rather.
Yeah, a chemical burn.
I mean, you're effectively weaponizing a chemical and dumping it on someone's face.
Yeah, she knew what she was doing.
So, at trial, prosecutors argued Megan tossed a mix containing lye powder and water on Conrad, 64, While he was napping on a couch at the family's Groveland Township home on October 1st, 2021.
According to police, Megan left her father unconscious after dowsing him.
The teen's friend found Conrad.
Investigators later found lye powdered on the couch.
So Conrad was hospitalized that day with chemical burns to his head, torso, and extremities.
So this, man, she fucking put it all over the place.
He spent months in intensive care before being released to an in-home hospice in his final days.
Conrad succumbed to his injuries and died on March 6, 2022.
Oakland County prosecutors charged Megan with unlawful possession or use of harmful devices, imitation irritants, causing death, a felony, and misdemeanor domestic violence.
And in a cell phone video presented at the trial, as trial evidence, Megan claimed to have thrown a bag of bread at her father and later threw other items towards the end of the sofa, where there were chemicals.
In a recorded interview with the police, she said that she threw bread at her father, and possibly water.
Now, lye powder is a common cleaning agent often used in drains, and when mixing it with water, it creates what is known as an exothermic reaction, and this causes a dramatic temperature increase.
And the solution can reach as high as 200 degrees Fahrenheit.
The reaction results in fumes that, when inhaled, render people unconscious.
By the time Conrad was discovered, he was severely burned and had lost consciousness.
The only grace he had was losing consciousness.
I imagine you would initially wake up.
As much as it'd be nice to think that this poor guy experienced all this awfulness in his sleep.
And then, of course, the worst part is this didn't actually kill him.
It just set him on the path to slowly die from complications as a result.
So it's just like the nastiest possible option.
It's just horrible, dude.
So, in a statement following her conviction, which you're going to like, Rickett, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said, Yeah, that's a...
Securing justice for the victim?
Pretty accurate.
I mean...
Kind of goes to show you that maybe you should have just thrown a water balloon full of paint on him if you were really that mad.
Yeah, what was she mad?
Oh, I think she wouldn't, yeah, she wouldn't drive her.
He wouldn't drive her to get a haircut or something.
So she chemically burned him to death and left him to die.
But, like, commending the prosecution?
What work do they do?
This girl served no time.
She served a year in prison for killing her father.
Now, there are more victims than just the father here.
The entire family are victims of this.
Like, it ripples like water.
You know, you drop a rock in water and the ripple effect.
Like, man...
I don't like that quote, dude.
What the judge said.
Because the prosecution didn't do any justice for the victim.
I'm just like, what?
The victim's fucking dead.
What kind of justice is that?
Yeah, I commend them for...
Yeah, well, and, like, the defendant lashed out in anger and wound up killing her father.
That statement kind of indicates that a few months was not really enough.
Yeah. Not good.
So at sentencing, Megan said prosecutors, quote, tried to make me look like a monster, but that's not me.
It never was.
End quote.
And she described her father as her, quote unquote, best friend.
America X is on probation until July 2028.
I feel like she is just a soulless, heartless girl.
They tried to make me look like a monster when, you know, I killed someone with an acid attack.
Yeah, I mean, they even said she lashed out in anger and wound up killing her father.
So it's not like they're even trying to present it as some kind of logical defense.
No. A temporary insanity.
Just literally, she was mad, so somebody has to die now.
Yeah. And that's okay.
Like, they didn't even say she has to take anger management courses.
You know, something like that.
Like, how do they know she's not going to lash out in anger again and wind up killing someone?
She's clearly very easy to become angry.
So... I think that she kind of poses a danger to society, don't you think?
Nah, not as long as you don't ever disappoint or anger her.
Yeah. As long as you just, you know, coddle her for the rest of her life and never once tell her no, she probably won't throw acid on you.
I can't really guarantee that she won't because she might just decide she's pissed at you anyway.
Yeah. I mean, it could be anything.
What if, like, you leave the toilet seat down or up or whatever and you'd piss and, you know.
Anything that women get pissed off at.
What if you print out a receipt and the printer's low on ink and she blames you for it?
Exactly. When she's the only one that prints.
Bitches. Alright.
This next one.
This next one.
Oh, this is a big one, too.
Oklahoma panel rejects man's plea for mercy.
Paves the way for final U.S. execution of 2024.
December 13th, 2024.
So. An Oklahoma panel on Friday the 13th rejected a plea for clemency for a man convicted of torturing and killing a 10-year-old girl as part of a cannibalistic fantasy paving the way for him to become the 25th and final person executed in the U.S. this year.
Yeah, I think I know why they pushed for the death penalty on that.
Yeah. Three members of Oklahoma's Pardon and Parole Board voted unanimously against clemency for Kevin Ray Underwood Who is scheduled to receive a lethal injection on Thursday the 19th, his 45th birthday.
His 45th birthday.
Boy. Yeah, so we gotta check an update on this one too.
Authorities had sought a missing 10-year-old girl, Jamie Rose Bolin, for whom an Amber Alert had been issued.
Underwood, who lived near Bolin in the same apartment complex, Underwood admitted to FBI agents and Oklahoma detectives that he had murdered her, intending to eat her and attempted to decapitate her,
telling them, quote, Go ahead and arrest me.
She's in there.
I chopped her up.
End quote.
After Underwood's confession, Boland's corpse, stashed in a large plastic container, was recovered from his bedroom closet.
Man. Ew.
Yeah. So Purcell Police Chief David Tompkins stated that Bolin's murder was the culmination of Underwood's fantasy to quote, kidnap a person, rape them, torture them, kill them, cut off their head, drain the body of blood, rape the corpse,
eat the corpse, then dispose of the organs and bones.
End quote.
Good God.
Does the state executed corpses after death?
They should.
Double X to them.
This guy, like, he wanted to check every box here, apparently.
Ugh. And a ten-year-old girl, too, yeah, so she's underage, yeah.
Like, straight-up Hannibal Lecter levels of evil.
So, Underwood was convicted of having bludgeoned Boland to death with a wooden cutting board.
My god.
Police stated that they had found meat tenderizer and barbecue skewers at the scene, which they presumed were intended for use on the victim's corpse.
Fucking cutting board, dude?
Holy hell.
Just beat her with a cutting board?
Yeah, because probably wanted something less efficient.
Yeah, I guess so.
Fuck. Takes multiple swings.
Yeah. Underwood admitted to investigators in a videotaped confession played to the board on Friday that the killing was part of a cannibalistic fantasy and that he nearly beheaded the girl in his bathtub before abandoning his plans to eat her.
Quote, I would like to apologize to the victim's family, to my own family, And to everyone in that room today that had to hear the horrible details of what I did, end quote.
Underwood said to the board via a video feed from the Oklahoma State Penitentiary, quote, I can't believe I did these things.
The person I was in the weeks leading up to that event is not who I am now, end quote.
What do you think?
Do you think people can change?
Do you think people can outgrow their crazy murderous Cannibalistic fantasies?
People kind of have to be able to change, but that doesn't sound changed to me.
Doesn't sound changed.
That sounds along the lines of, I've effectively blocked out that altar of myself, so now I can't be trusted at all.
Yeah. Because I firmly believe people can change.
Now, not everybody.
Like, if there was a little bit more shame and reticence here...
Like, beyond just, I'm sorry you had to deal with this horrible story, I'm like, you know, you're kind of missing out on that whole, like, you deprived of them the rest of their lives together and stuff, so you're still not really connecting with their humanity here.
Yeah. You're just simply, I'm sorry that you were upset by the horrible thing I did.
I realized it was horrible, because you're all upset.
I must have done something to upset you.
You're mad, so I must have done a bad thing.
Wow. So, yeah, I definitely think people can change, and I definitely think this dude did not.
This is on the level of sincerity of...
I remember a story where somebody asked someone to write a recommendation for a letter for them, when they were in pre-release or something, and the note they wrote was, I promise you this time they won't break out of pre-release, I don't think.
Nice. Like, nastiest recommendation letter ever.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think.
But yeah, I don't think, you know, you can't force someone to change.
They have to change on their own, like, on their own time, in their own way, with help, if necessary.
But I think people that cannot change would be people that suffer from some sort of, like, mental disease that...
Makes them completely incapable.
Yeah, this dude sounds kind of like too crazy and unwilling to rehabilitate, really.
Yeah, this guy is just one that he's a certified psychopath.
But why did he stop eating here?
Why did he, uh...
That part really doesn't get explained at all, and it is weird.
Why did he not?
Like, it doesn't exactly sound like he feels that bad about it to this day, so that sure as hell wasn't a twinge of guilt.
I don't know, man.
That's weird.
I always kind of wondered, since he was just a wannabe cannibal, did he take a bite and then realize, ew, this is gross or something?
That's a thing.
Just kind of realized maybe the reality wasn't this magical thing that he'd envisioned in his head.
Because his version of it was all amazing, I'm sure.
Because otherwise, why would you do such a horrible thing?
Like the fantasy of it?
Or the actual thing.
Yeah, well, you know, why do the actual thing unless you're deluded by the fantasy and the thinking is going to be that great.
So he probably just realized that it just wasn't what it cracked up to be.
Right. It was just so much better in his head.
I mean, like I said, the dude shows some real signs of disconnect.
Like, both in his statement and in how he acted and suddenly giving it up kind of shows that, yeah, there were times where he would break through and realize, yeah, this is messed up, but it's just simply not consistent enough to trust somebody like that.
Yeah. Okay, I got the update.
So, Underwood's attorneys argued that he deserved to be spared from death because of his long history of abuse and serious mental health issues that included autism?
Obsessive-compulsive disorder, bipolar, and panic disorders.
And post-traumatic stress disorders, schizotypal disorder, and various deviant sexual paraphilias.
I mean, this guy has a gambit of disorders.
But I mean, dude, yeah, it's so easy though.
You put someone in front of a freaking psychiatrist, they love checking boxes.
They love that shit.
You know what I mean?
Because I wonder, like, what were the tests done to, like, find all these things in him?
Because they do, like, the Minnesota stuff, whatever those things are.
All of these are basically self-reporting tests that they give people.
And they take them back to their cell or whatever, and they, like, check boxes.
Do you feel this way when this happens?
What do you think when a hurricane kills, you know, 100 people?
Are you sad?
You know, and you just check boxes.
I mean, did actually bad stuff happen to him or not?
I think there'd be some kind of record of it beyond just simply bad stuff happened to me.
Bad stuff happened to me.
If horrible enough stuff happened to you to turn you into a cannibal and make that a reason for it, what the hell was that?
Yeah, I would like to know.
But we just couldn't do deep dives in any of these because...
I don't think...
Yeah, I'd wager you probably wouldn't find much there.
Probably not.
It would take a lot of digging.
It would probably be a very disappointing review of, yeah, he didn't really actually think that much about these things.
That's the horrifying thing.
Assistant Attorney General Aspen Lehman urged the board to reject clemency, calling Underwood's crime, quote, one of the most notorious and depraved murders in Oklahoma history, end quote.
Well, imagine if he carried through with everything he wanted to do.
My God.
Mr. Underwood chose Jamie because he thought that she was small and defenseless and easy prey, Layman said.
And while we, as an enlightened society, can give grace to those struggling with mental illness, we can still expect them to refrain from planning the murder, rape, torture, and cannibalism of ten-year-old little girls.
Yeah, I mean, his argument is literally, I should have been locked up before I did this.
So, not really a whole, not really a terribly good defense anyways.
No. And we cannot get to that area where it's minority report.
We can't have those pre-crime stuff.
We can't have that happening.
So, we just have to accept that after the dude does it, he definitely gets all the smoke.
And so Underwood was scheduled to receive a three-drug lethal injection on Thursday inside the death chamber at Oklahoma State Penitentiary in McAllister.
It would be Oklahoma's fourth execution of the year and the 25th nationally if both his and Cole Collins are carried out next week.
Okay, so let's see the update on what happened with this guy.
Kevin Ray Underwood.
Okay, he was carried out...
He was pronounced dead at 10.14 a.m.
He did say before that happened, he did say, I would like to apologize again for all the terrible things I did.
I hate that I did those things and I wish I could take them back.
You know what?
I bet he does.
I bet he does finally.
He's like, fuck, I fucked up.
Yeah. Sucks.
Just, you know, should have realized that way before.
You know, like before abducting someone.
Before the planning.
It would have been a really good time.
Like, before the planning would have been even better.
But, you know, if you're going to stop at any point, at least before you do it, would be the best time.
Yes. Let's see what else it says here.
He did tell the FBI, though, quote, I'm going to burn in hell.
End quote.
Definitely burned.
I mean, that guy's going to pay a dear karmic price for that.
He's going to have a lot of extreme misery.
He is.
The death penalty is going to be the beginning of his problems, not the end.
Alright, number seven.
What's this one?
Former prison guard trainee is sentenced to death for killing five women at a Florida bank.
Ooh, boy.
Alright, December 16th, 2024.
A former prison guard trainee who executed five women inside a Florida bank almost six years ago was sentenced to death on Monday as his judge called the slayings calculated heinous and cruel.
Does the former prison guard part, is that just for shock value?
Like, oh, he watched prisoners.
I have no idea.
Like, was he actually, like, bad?
Like, oh, this former prison guard, so he was, his job was to watch the worst of the worst, you know?
Yeah. He's a good guy, but who knows?
Maybe he got fired.
Well, that's what I'm thinking.
Are they trying to say he was so awful that he never made it through the trainee point?
Oh yeah, he was only a trainee.
Yeah, fuck.
So they were just like, this dude's a freaking sadist.
We can't give him this job.
He's going to beat people.
And he's not even going to wait to ask for bribes like we're supposed to.
Yeah. Let's see what this says here.
27 appeared to gulp but otherwise showed no emotion as Circuit Judge Angela Cowden pronounced the sentence at the Highlands County Courthouse in Sebring.
After a two-week penalty trial, a jury in June voted 9-3 to recommend that Cowden sentence Xaver to death.
D-d-d-death.
Cowden said the weeks of planning that Xaver performed before the 2019 murders at Sebring SunTrust Bank The enormity of the crime and the fear the victims felt as they were shot greatly outweighed the two dozen mitigating factors his attorneys had presented,
including his history of mental illness, his benign brain tumor, and his jailhouse embrace of Christianity.
Xaver pleaded guilty last year to five counts of first-degree murder for the slayings of customer Cynthia Watson, who was 65, a bank teller coordinator.
Marisol Lopez, she was 55. A bank trainer, Anna Pinan Williams, who's 38. A teller, Deborah Cook, 54. And a banker, Jessica Monahue, 31. At gunpoint,
Xaver ordered the women to lie on the floor and then shot each in the head as they begged for mercy.
Chiara Lopez told Xaver, Michael Cook, Deborah's husband, also called Xaver a coward and told the judge,
quote, I have absolutely no sympathy for him, end quote.
Xaver's lead public defender, Jane McNeil, had asked that Cowden spare her client, saying a life sentence would put an end to the case instead of dragging it out for a decade of appeals and possibly a retrial.
Which is very likely, because automatically, when you get a death sentence, appeals go in immediately.
So it just pushes it out forever.
Yeah, it drags on the process.
That's why you always hear about people finally getting executed years later.
It's a long, drowned out thing.
People waiting on death row right now, who have been on death row for 30 fucking years.
It's like, what are you doing here?
I'm still going through the process because I can still make some argument that maybe I might be reasonably doubtful that I did it.
And that's the thing people got to realize is you don't have to assess true innocence because that's impossible.
You just have to establish doubt in the case.
Yeah. That's all.
That's all.
Let's see, what did, uh, McNeil argued, the only way for this matter to be brought to an end so that the families of the victims in this community is able to move forward is a life sentence.
This, yeah, yeah.
Under a new Florida law, death penalty sentences can be rendered by a jury vote of 8-4 rather than a unanimous recommendation.
The change was adopted after the 2018 Parkland High School shooter could not be sentenced to death for murdering 17 people despite a 9-3 jury vote.
McNeil called the new law unconstitutional.
Can you believe that?
Three people were confused about who did it?
I thought he said he did it.
I guess.
I don't know.
I must be confused on the details.
But think about this.
Xaver killed five people?
Yep. What's his name?
I forget his name.
The shooter at Parkland High.
They didn't even sentence him to death.
Oh, yeah.
But they're going to sentence this guy who killed five people to death.
Yeah. Of course, to my reading of this...
That the law change was actually prompted by that case.
There was a huge stink about it, but yeah, he did get out of it.
That makes sense.
So essentially, though, I was just thinking, boy, that many people doubted that he did it.
Is there more doubt to the case than I thought?
That makes sense.
I need to see who the guy's name was.
Yeah, Nicholas Cruz.
That's who it was.
I didn't even think he got away or anything.
I thought the whole stink in that one was...
Wasn't Parkland one of those ones where the cop actually got in trouble because he didn't go in to render any assistance and stop the shooter?
Yeah. The bigger stink was the Uvalde one, which was a nastier and bigger incident, but Parkland happened years before that.
Yeah. So, Xaver moved to Sebring, a city of about 11,000 in 2018 from near South Bend, Indiana.
In 2014, his high school principal contacted police after Xaver told others he was having dreams about hurting his classmates.
His mother promised to get him psychological help.
Whether that happened, I don't know.
He joined the army in 2016.
Always great when you're psychologically unstable.
Yes. Get you a weapon and some shock training.
Well, I think maybe the psychological issues helped him join the army in 2016, and a former girlfriend who met him at a mental hospital where they were patients told police he said joining the military was a, quote, way to kill people and get away with it.
End quote.
I mean, that is...
Yikes....in...
Certain circumstances.
You know, I think a lot of people join the army or militaries, too, with that mentality.
Yeah, just not quite as bold about announcing it.
Yeah. Which is why they had to go bye-bye.
Yeah. You gotta be quiet about it, otherwise you get booted.
Fuck. Alright, so the army...
I said, sir, I wanna kill.
I wanna kill!
The Army discharged him after three months.
And so he made it through boot camp.
Right? Yeah, he made it through boot camp.
Right. In 2017, a Michigan woman reported him after he sent her text messages suggesting he might commit suicide by cop or take hostages despite his psychological problems and dismissal from the Army.
Florida. Hired Zaver as a guard trainee in November 2018 at a prison near Sebring.
He quit two months later, two weeks before the shootings, and a day after he bought his gun.
Holy shit.
Dang, man.
So, just hours before the murders, Zaver began a long, intermittent text message conversation with a former girlfriend in Connecticut telling her, quote, This is the best day of my life.
End quote.
But refusing to say why.
Fifteen minutes before the shootings, he texted her again and said, quote, I'm dying today.
End quote.
And then, from the bank parking lot, he texted, quote, I'm taking a few people with me because I've always wanted to kill people, so I'm going to try and see how it goes.
Watch for me on the news.
End quote.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure that text message was an awful lot of that determination.
Damn! Like, that's pretty stone cold.
Like, you're not even doing it because you're mad about anything.
You're just like, I've always wanted this experience, so I'm just gonna do this before I go.
That's just nuts, dude.
Dear God, he's like referencing it like people reference taking like an extraneous class they don't need.
I just thought, hey, maybe studying aviation might be interesting.
So I bought some aviation books because I always wanted to read about it.
Yeah, exactly.
So I bought some aviation books, studied some aerodynamics, did some nerding out.
No, I don't plan on actually becoming a pilot.
That would take too much time.
Yeah, I'm taking a few people with me because I've always wanted to kill people.
So I'm just going to try and see how it goes.
You know, I just wanted to study the ending of other lives.
Fuck this guy.
Just for academic purposes, because, you know, there hasn't been a whole human history of study of that or anything.
Not at all.
I just...
That sort of shit scares me.
Maybe we do need...
You know, if anybody...
If you hear anybody just say those words, guys want to kill somebody, that person probably really does want to kill somebody.
And given the opportunity, because they would be an opportunist, Opportunist, then you should probably go tell that to somebody, like, as soon as possible.
Yeah, the hard part people have is that so many people will do it theatrically for the attention itself.
Exactly. So then you get all these false alarms.
But simultaneously, the people who want the attention could also be asking you to get attention towards them.
Like, that's the trick.
Sometimes these aren't necessarily this person wanting this to happen, but more so recognizing that they're on rails of some kind of mental derailment where they can recognize something coming up and are effectively trying to stop it and can't.
So they're just broadcasting that they're going to do it in the hopes that someone else does.
Oh, murders scare me.
Like, that's what it...
But the trick with this guy is that he was definitely not trying to prevent himself, or he would have said this, like, a day or something.
Yeah, exactly.
And then waited around, like, to get arrested for announcing he's gonna go murder people.
So, like, you know, you don't give five minutes.
Alright, we are at number eight.
The last one.
Imprisoned, South Bay, restaurateur.
Restaurateur? If they didn't know that, wouldn't that be a bit of oversharing?
You'd think so.
David Vines?
I want to say veins.
David Vines had already been convicted of murdering his wife when he tried to convince a judge that the most revolting aspect of his crime wasn't true.
In a futile 45-minute attempt to delay his sentencing and reopen his case without a lawyer, claimed he was suffering from hallucinations caused by painkillers when he told detectives he had boiled his wife's body, poured the liquefied remains down a grease trap,
and tossed her bones in a trash bin.
Quote, I loved my wife, end quote, he said emphatically in court that day in 2013.
Well, I didn't cook my wife.
End quote.
I mean, nothing says loving like, you know, murdering them.
Like, how's that the part?
Like, how's that a point of contention exactly?
Like, you know, I loved her.
It's like, no, you didn't.
You killed her.
You fucking cooked her.
Yeah, like, man, but he says he didn't.
I loved her too much to cook her, but not too much to murder her.
There was a certain level of love there.
Yeah, it was a perfect balance.
Just enough that she could be annoying, but not delicious.
Ew. The judge waved off Vane's denial and sentenced him to 15 years to life in prison for second-degree murder in the death of his wife, Dawn.
Nearly 12 years later, Veins, again, it's Vines, I'm sure, but I'm saying Veins, has come clean.
He recently admitted that after killing his 39-year-old wife in their Torrance home, he panicked and indeed had desecrated her remains in exactly the manner described in his confession.
Ooh, 12 years later, he's like, yeah, whatever, I'll fucking admit it.
Wait, and this guy's on death row, too?
Yeah, he was trying to get out.
No, he's not in on death row.
Yeah, he just wants out, because he's...
He wants to be on parole.
Crazy. What cooked his wife?
Alright, so, um, what was I?
Quote, I thought about suicide, end quote, veins told the panel.
I went back to the house where Don's body was, the sun was already starting to go down, and I had a panic attack.
Absolutely freaking out.
And I was talking out loud to myself, Oh my god!
Oh my god!
You have to do something!
You have to do something!
At that moment, that's when I thought back about something I had seen on TV a decade earlier.
I decided right then that I was going to go ahead and boil the body.
I was afraid.
I was panicked.
What was I going to do?
I was new to LA.
I didn't really have any friends.
I'd already lied to everybody that morning, and I...
End quote.
But she didn't taste very good.
She didn't taste good, though.
So, you know, that makes it okay.
Fuck, there's a cannibal, like, there's a legit cannibal restaurant in L.A. This guy could have got a job there.
How do you do that, exactly?
People, like, donate their bodies to, quote, science and not read the fine print very well?
I guess.
Who the fuck knows, dude?
I haven't looked into it.
I've just, I've heard it on podcasts.
I'm like, yeah, I should look into that.
I just haven't.
People talk about it.
I don't know.
Must be legit.
It's just like, alright, hold out your finger.
Maybe, yeah, maybe it's like eating your own parts.
They're like, oh, you want a steak?
Oh, that's gonna take a bit more.
Get that leg out there.
Alright, hold still.
I actually have part of a script.
We're gonna be doing an episode like that where people, like, self-cannibalize.
Yeah. It's gonna be awesome.
It's gonna be fucking awesome.
So, Vane's confession.
Stunned. Don Vain's family members listening to the hearing over the phone.
The proceeding from the California Substance Abuse Treatment Facility in Corcoran was Vain's second attempt at trying to convince a parole board, a parole board panel, that he was ready to go home.
Although Vain's described himself as deeply remorseful and sickened by what he had done, his words were not enough to convince the panel that he deserved his freedom.
And the parole board members quickly ended Bane's hope for early release, telling him he could try again in three years.
Just not as soon.
Like, he's going to get out at some point.
That's for sure.
So he's still going to get out, just not as soon.
Yes. This is interesting.
I mean, the weird part is, is like, why of all the things is, you know, would you deny the boiling part?
I really feel like...
You know, when they recovered whatever was left of her, that part wasn't really gonna be...
He pretty much got rid of everything, right?
He, like, liquefied remains down the grease trap, bones in the trash bin.
Like, she was gone.
So it's like he ditched her at everything, and it's like...
How would you have done that without doing something like that to her?
Like, she'd be intact somewhere.
So let's get into how the mystery unfolded.
So the crime, this crime, okay, it occurred in October of 2009 when Vane's wife of 17 years vanished.
David Vane told friends and his staff at the Time Contemporary Cafe on Nordbone Avenue, where his wife worked as a hostess, that she had left him because he demanded she seek help for drug abuse.
But something was odd.
Dawn left her car behind in the driveway of their Torrance home.
She failed to collect hundreds of dollars that she had stashed with a friend in the event that she and her husband split.
She neglected to pick up a close friend with a cancer diagnosis for a doctor's appointment, and later texted her to say that she needed some time to think.
In the text, Dawn Vaines misspelled her own nickname and never asked about her friend's health.
Which is just weird.
So by November, Don's sister, Dana Pappin...
And he said, I burned myself.
And months passed.
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department missing persons investigators found no sign of Don, there's no bank activity, no credit card usage, and Vaines told the panel that he believed the police were going to come for him at any time.
Quote, Honestly, I couldn't believe I hadn't been arrested, Vaines said.
As time went by, I started to think, well, maybe I might be able to get away with this.
End quote.
Vaines said he continued to tell friends his wife had gone off on a drug binge and that she was probably with one of her previous boyfriends on the East Coast.
With increasing news coverage of Don's disappearance, two sheriff's homicide detectives took over the case in August of 2010.
In August of 2011, they revealed to the Daily Breeze that they had found blood in the Vane's residence, believed Don was dead, and considered the restaurateur a person of interest.
I mean, I really feel like the thing that made all this fall apart is the claim that she went on a drug binge, but somehow left hundreds of dollars uncollected on the way out.
Doesn't make sense, does it?
How are you going to start your drug binge?
You need that money.
Like, as much as people have this...
Romantic notion of them giving you free drugs.
They don't actually give you free drugs.
No, man.
You gotta buy that shit.
Just not free.
And more importantly, that gimmick was the first one is free, not it's free forever.
Unless she's a female.
Maybe she knows a drug dealer who's just like, fuck me, suck my dick, do all these things, and I'll fucking get you high all the time.
Yeah, could possibly be trading for...
Favors, but...
Doubtful. Still, I would still...
Yeah, she would still probably want that money, though.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
No one's just gonna leave money like that.
Especially not somebody who's gonna run off on somebody to go to a band.
No. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense.
Like, that's the part of this that just kills the believability of it for me, because it's like maybe his alibi might have made sense if she'd taken the money.
Yeah, dude.
Man, I guess he didn't think that part through.
Yeah, like if he'd said, you know, she ditched because she wanted to leave without him knowing and ditch somewhere else, that would have been a way better excuse.
Because then you have a reason for her not to get the money, because the money is a signal that she's ditching.
Exactly. But he probably didn't even know any of this, because more than likely she didn't tell him about this money.
No, no, definitely not.
Hours after an article with that news appeared the next morning, veins broke down at home.
Admitted his crime to his new girlfriend, jumped into a sport utility vehicle, and raced with her in a harrowing ride to a Rancho Palos Verdes cliff.
As his girlfriend tried to stop him at the cliff's edge, Veins broke free from her grasp and jumped.
But he survived the 80-foot fall.
A heavily medicated Vance confessed to the killing in the hospital, telling detectives he had cooked the body in his restaurant, in the restaurant kitchen, over the course of four days until it was done.
According to a transcript of his original confession, he said he poured the water and remains into his grease trap to mix it with his restaurant waste.
Yeah, so disgusting, dude.
Her bones, he said, were placed strategically among the other garbage in the bin outside.
Her skull, he said, remained intact.
So he hid it in his mother's attic with the intention of leaving it somewhere later.
Detectives searched the attic but couldn't find it.
Vane's ghastly confession remained a secret until former Deputy District Attorney Deborah Brazel played a recording of it to the jury at Vane's murder trial in 2012.
The restaurateur did not take the stand to defend himself, which was probably the best choice he made through this whole thing.
Jurors convicted him of second-degree murder after Vane's attorney convinced them the crime was not premeditated and Vane's did not intend to kill her.
Now, during his recent parole hearing, Vane said he was ready to tell all.
So, the day of the murder.
Yeah, ready to tell all.
Probably shouldn't do that.
Don, he said, arrived home in a drug-induced rage as he tried to sleep following a long work week in the restaurant.
Drunk himself, he accused Don of failing to make a bank deposit.
As they battled, he grabbed packing tape to keep her from hitting him, tied her arms to her sides, and covered her mouth to keep her from waking the neighbors.
Don, he said, told him she couldn't breathe.
Vane said he took an Ambien sleeping pill.
And went to bed.
When he awakened in the morning, he discovered Dawn had suffocated.
I mean, you have to keep in mind when people tell you they can't breathe, they're meaning their breathing is restricted, not that they completely can't breathe.
So, you know, you can suffocate just because your airway is restricted.
You don't necessarily have to have it completely cut off.
Yeah, true.
True, dude.
It's just a lack of oxygen.
So, Veins told the panel...
I wasn't trying to murder her.
I was in a drunken rage, in the cycle of domestic violence, and my actions, my careless disregard for her life, brought forth her murder.
Vaines, who had previously served time for drug trafficking in Florida, wrapped his wife's body in plastic bags and went to work, stopping at Target to buy a burner phone.
He called a lawyer who wanted $150,000 to represent him.
Vaines said he didn't have the money to hire him.
It was here when he told his employees that Don was on a binge and wouldn't be in to work.
He said he thought about turning himself in, but as the day went on, you know, my criminal thinking just kind of, you know, came to the forefront and it seemed less and less likely that I was going to go that route.
This dude could not sell ketchup pop.
It could not sell freaking...
Ice in the winter, my god.
Like... What the hell?
No, it's so bad.
It's just that, like, if everyone always says be your own advocate, this is someone who I would say find a different advocate.
Yes. 100%.
This guy is not a good self-advocate.
By late afternoon, Vaines went home, removed the plastic bags containing his wife's body, and stuffed her into a cedar-lined antique steamer trunk that his grandfather had refurbished and given to him as a gift.
Vaines said that he had a panic attack.
He took another Ambien and went to sleep.
The next day, he drove the trunk to the restaurant and began his effort to eliminate the evidence.
Vane said his actions left him feeling horrible, ashamed, deplorable.
Quote, But I continued to lie.
I knew I was on borrow time.
End quote.
Within weeks, while Don's friends and family posted missing persons flyers and sought media help to find her, veins went about his own business.
His much younger new girlfriend quickly replaced Don in her job and at home.
It couldn't be more suspicious.
So he just effectively tried to replace her.
Immediately. Like, didn't you have a different girlfriend?
No, I always had this girlfriend.
Yeah, same one.
What are you talking about?
As months passed, Vane's declined to join Don's friends in their quest to find her.
According to court testimony, Vane's daughter and girlfriend threw Don's clothes into the same trash container where her bones had been dumped.
Sitting with his daughter in a hot tub one night, he told her that he had killed Don and placed her body into the trash.
She kept it to herself until revealing her father's secret to a detective the night before he jumped from the cliff.
Dawn's sister, Donya Pappin, said she had difficulty from the very beginning believing the account Vane's gave detectives of how he disposed of her sister.
She thought it was just too outrageous.
After hearing his latest confession, she doesn't know what to think.
The family members, including David Pappin's wife, Carrie, Said they receive phone calls regularly from true crime television show producers seeking to retell the story.
Which, yeah, I'm gonna reach out to you guys.
Should I reach out?
I mean, think she'd come talk to us?
I don't know, man, maybe.
Could reach out.
Or leave him alone.
Yeah, I'm like...
Which they probably prefer.
Would Carrie talk to us?
I mean...
Would this guy talk to us?
Veins? Would David talk to us?
Would Vaynes talk to us?
I don't know.
I'll reach out.
I feel like Vaynes would be willing to talk to us because he's apparently willing to talk to a freaking parole board about this stuff.
He's willing to talk to anybody about it.
He wants to get a story out.
So we could say it like, oh, we're on your side, dude.
Come on the show, talk to us.
And we'll call you in prison.
Share it.
We'll put money on your books.
We need to share...
Yeah, we need to share your story.
We'll share your story.
Oh, man.
Yeah, we're with the You're Definitely Not Innocent Project.
Yeah, you've heard of the Innocent Project, right?
We're the other guys.
We're the You Ain't Innocent Project.
You Ain't Innocent Project.
So, tell me about all the nasty stuff you've done.
Just pretend we're the parole board.
Yeah, just pretend we're the parole board and you need to convince us to let you go.
That would be perfect.
That'd be perfect.
Yo, Mr. Veins, we're gonna be the parole board.
You can be you.
Act yourself, and then you just convince us to let you out.
Yeah, like, sell me on this.
And then we can turn this into a Hollywood movie.
Yeah, give me culinary tips here.
Yeah, dude.
Man, that's brutal.
Brutal shit.
Also, I feel bad for anyone who ate at his restaurant after that.
That's gotta be a nasty thought.
Damn. Like, this dude boiled a person.
Yeah. In the restaurant kitchen.
In the kitchen, yeah.
And that really kind of begs the question of was the restaurant closed down?
They didn't really cover that.
They didn't say anything about that.
So in other words, you're sitting out here enjoying your freaking cheeseburger and fries or your medium rare steak while in the back somebody's boiling a human being.
Ugh. No.
Ugh, I don't like that.
Who's not to say that he didn't fucking chop her up and, you know, mix some of her meat in with the hamburger and grind it all up?
That really kind of begs the question of, you know, he didn't outright admit it, but did he do a little Sweeney Todd action here once she was up to, uh, surfing temp?
Because you've got to think, though, as he's, like, stirring the body, and this is not, we're not trying to make fun of the victims here.
What is this?
No, it's not.
Making fun of him.
No, I'm making fun of this dude's, like, completely lackadaisical attitude towards cooking a person.
Right, dude.
So, like, this is, he's stirring a big pot.
Because, like, how is he boiling her?
Like, holy, did he chop her up?
Like, anyway, he's, like, boiling her and shit.
And you know that he had to at some point, because he said he cooked her until she was done.
How did he know she was done?
Did he taste it?
Did he stick a freaking thermometer in her?
And again, was the restaurant open this entire time?
Like I said, it ain't about, like, you know, diminishing it.
It's about really illustrating just how messed up this mentality would have to be.
This is four straight days of this dude just casually doing this.
And I'm not really hearing any indication that he shut the restaurant down.
And more than likely, he would want to keep it open to keep suspicion down.
So that makes me think that he probably did operate the restaurant while he was doing this.
I think he did.
I wonder what the name of this thing was.
So yeah, literally everyone who ate food there is now seriously asking the question of, did I eat a cannibal's meal?
Was he cooking her before I ate it, after I ate it, during?
God, that's got to be such a messed up thought for everyone who's eaten at that restaurant in the past however many years.
Yeah, dude.
And if any people live in that area who might be listening to the show and be like, dude, I've eaten there.
How does that make you feel?
Tell us.
Yeah, how does that make you feel?
Because I legitimately am not sure how I would react to such a thing.
Oh yeah, so it was a bistro called Time Contemporary Cafe in Lomita, California.
I mean, for one, I do not believe, honestly, when you hear the story, it really is pretty amazing.
That they bought it in the first place.
Like, his original story.
Which, honestly, it seems like that's why he was so ballsy in telling this new one.
Because, I mean, like...
Holy crap, dude.
It's permanently closed.
Yeah, it probably is.
But he had some good dishes on here.
Damn. That sounds delicious.
Saying that about a guy who killed and cooked his fucking wife.
Well, you know...
I'm trying to look for reviews.
There they are.
Four stars.
Cook really puts himself into his work.
Also others.
One star.
Also others.
Oh, man.
But I'm saying, when you look back at it, he just kind of decided to roast her.
Oh my god!
Alright, I clicked on the...
The reviews here, and it shows like 5 stars, 4 stars, 3 stars, 2 stars, 1 star, and you can click on one of those, and it'll bring you to all of those comments and reviews with that many stars.
So I click the 1 star one, and the first one says, this comes from Timothy G., New Hampshire, it looks like.
Food was boiled, overcooked, and really chewy.
I complained to the owner, but he seemed crazy.
This is August 30th.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that dude read the news.
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I mean, like, you think about it, though, like, the brazenness of his explanation makes a lot more sense when you consider the fact that he actually got away with, oops, I accidentally killed her, when I tied her up with tape and taped her mouth shut,
oopsie-doopsie, like...
I mean, the fact that they bought that story in the first place is probably why he thought, what the hell?
Why don't I just tell them how I roasted her?
Maybe they'll let me out.
You know, I have a prescription for Ambien, and I'm going to tell you right now, you don't just crash.
You are up for a while, and it just makes you sleepy, and then, like, it helps you fall asleep and kind of stay asleep.
It does not have that effect with me, because I don't know what's wrong with me.
I think I have, like, extreme ADHD or something.
But it doesn't just make you fucking conk out.
You aren't just talking one moment, and then you're in sleepy world.
I've heard all kinds of crazy anecdotal stories from people who did not go to sleep from Ambien, but rather just entered a fugue state where they couldn't really remember what happened afterwards, but didn't go unconscious.
They just lost rational thought for a while.
I'm like, that convinced me to stay the hell away from it.
That's never happened to me.
That's never happened to me.
I'm like, yeah, like...
I knew somebody who was on him for a while who had troubles with him.
And said they couldn't put him to sleep.
But yeah, they said at one point it effectively blacked them out.
Crazy. I have heard stories of that happening.
I've never tried it or never had it or anything myself.
Dude, it works.
It does make you tired and it does allow you to sleep better.
So there's a certain subset of people that have this Different reaction where it doesn't serve its sleep state thing, but it shuts down your consciousness nonetheless.
Because this one guy told me he had a prescription for it, and he blacked out.
He took it, but I think he said he was drinking too or something.
And he ended up blacking out, but he went to a fucking store and he bought a shit ton of groceries.
He drove back home.
But then when he woke up the next day and he looked out the window because he heard music and he's like, what the fuck?
And he looks out and it was his car was open.
The trunk was open.
The door was open.
His car was on and he totally blacked out.
And I think he said the groceries are still in the trunk too or something.
But that's crazy, dude.
I mean, I mean, lucky dude.
He made it back.
That's crazy.
I wouldn't...
Yeah, don't drink on drugs, on pharmaceuticals.
Don't do that.
Horrible stuff can happen.
Don't mix your meds.
Well, I mean...
There's all kinds of things that go well together.
But then you also get things like people who think they can do an MAOI and then do a bubble coke.
Well, yeah.
There's certain stuff where it's just like...
You're gonna die.
You're gonna die, boy.
Learn certain terms.
MAOI and drug repotentiator is the other one you really gotta look out for.
What was that?
It's a little lesser version of an MAOI's effect.
More generalized, but not quite as intense as MA-wise.
But it has the same effect of it can make other drugs super strong along with it.
That's actually a side effect of some dissociatives.
Like DXM can actually mix with stuff like weed and make weed into a genuine hallucinogen.
Gotta be careful what you do.
Man, I don't know about any of that.
I'm a simple man.
Give me my herbs.
Give me my, you know, mushrooms.
LSDs. Cocaines.
What's crazy about it is you don't even gotta leave it.
My heroines.
Is you could actually get this stuff from the grocery store.
What? What is it?
DXM? Yeah, DXM is cough syrup, man.
Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
You gotta keep in mind, like, it's not meant to be taken at such doses.
But it is actually a potent dissociative at higher doses, and you've got to watch yourself.
Which medication has that?
Well, most of them you'll die from the side drugs they put in with it, which are very toxic at high doses.
Oh, so you have to drink a lot of it?
Yeah, like, but, so generally, the...
The old RoboJunkies that I used to read about online would swear by the Robitussin.
See, Robitussin was one of the few that did not add the extra drugs in with it.
Because you can't take the ones that have like...
Tylenol and stuff in with them you'll kill your liver badly and get yourself sick and then there's another one that was notorious back in the day because they were kind of sweet called cough and colds where they had a they
like some kind of anti like I think it was an anti-inflammatory or something drug that was with it for like the sniffles or stuffy nose
But it was literally fatal in higher doses.
So, you know, because on a low level it does alter your consciousness minorly.
Dipenhydramine is a gymsum wheat extract, effectively.
Which is a very...
See, dissociatives kind of put you out of your body to kill pain and keep you from hurting.
Whereas Dipenhydramine, it's taken for motion sickness, but it's actually a delirium, which causes the lines of dreams and reality to blur and fray.
We're talking, like, not hallucinogens, we're talking waking dreams.
Very not fun.
That's scary.
Mind you.
Have you done that?
Experimentally at a time I made much poorer decisions than I do now, yes.
How was that trip?
Very brain damaging.
I remember trying to flip a switch and realizing it's actually on the other wall and watching it actually disappear after my hand goes through it.
My god.
Because it's such a potent deliriant that it can literally place physical objects in real space and your body will try to interact with them and not realize they aren't there until they can't.
Yeah, I'll pass on that one.
We're talking impressive levels.
Well, I mean, it's called the Deliriant.
It makes you delirious.
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm good.
So, you know, it does what's on the tin.
I am good on that.
And that's why they tell you not to take more than what's recommended.
Unless you want it to be terrifyingly awesome.
You ever go to Arrowhead.com?
Oh yeah, that's where I learned about a lot of this stuff.
Yeah, I used to check that out way back in the day.
See, we weren't privy to all the fancy street drugs up here.
We had weed and then sometimes mushrooms occasionally.
And then there was just whatever was at the convenience store that you could turn into a drug.
Those yellow jackets you could buy.
They were like amphetamines.
And then you'd learn real quick that the dyes that they put into things like cough syrup are designed to make you vomit.
And if they're not, that's sure as hell their effect anyways.
Because they rip your stomach up and that is not the DXM doing it.
That is the dyes that they add.
How? Probably to make you throw it up.
You should get a shit ton of bottles of cough syrup and cook it down and just cook out all the crap just so you have the DXM.
Yeah, pour it through bread.
That was the old trick.
Pour it through bread?
Yeah, take two slices of extra thick bread and pour the mixture.
Through it, the dye will be caught and suspended in the bread, rendering the mixture relatively harmless to drink.
I mean, obviously, you know, you're still going to get the side effects of the drug itself, but you're not going to get the horrible burning of the dye.
Interesting. That's crazy.
Where'd you get that from?
Like, Anarchist Cookbook?
Well, you know...
Well, in that case, I got it from somebody who was forced to drink.
Who was forced to quit drinking.
Well, he had an uncle that was forced to quit drinking, so he became a NyQuil junkie.
Because there was a tiny bit of alcohol in NyQuil.
And so he learned through his adeptness that if he drank a whole bottle of NyQuil to get a tiny buzz and fulfill his alcoholism, he would puke up from the dye.
But if he were to pour them through two slices of bread...
Nice. He could die no problem.
Wow. And then you just die of liver cancer from all the friggin' acetaminophen you just administered to yourself for weeks on end.
But you can't avoid it all.
Brutal. Oh, man.
All right.
So, you know, I learned the best way to learn it from other people's terrible life decisions.
Yeah, that is the best way.
That is the best way.
I think we should do an episode.
I learned it by not having to learn it myself.
If only I could learn all lessons that way.
I think we're going to do an episode where we just go on Arrowhead.com and just read all of those people's experiences for all the different drugs.
Oh yeah, I remember some really fun ones back in the day for DXM in particular where people would have OBEs and stuff.
This one guy described a situation where he was actually transported to a hellish dimension after his soul was ripped from his body.
Pretty intense shit.
That's not fun.
I do believe he probably kept doing it too.
As I recall, in the description it said he was doing like 900mg.
So... About two bottles worth.
Really not more than you'd think.
Jeez. Yeah.
Jesus. I mean, he was doing like, you know, powderized DXM, like stuff you can buy to make your own cough syrup, but yeah.
What? You can make your own cough syrup?
Same effect.
Yeah, at least you used to be able to.
Probably tell people to figure it out.
You can just get high off of it.
Yeah, all the good stuff is taken away.
Once the...
Once the connection gets made, all the fun stuff gets ruined.
I remember being a young adult and looking up all the designer drugs that they hadn't decided were illegal yet.
You could order them over the internet and stuff and buy them with cash.
Just the randomest stuff.
What was it?
AMT, amylmethyltryptamine.
I remember looking that up back in the day, back when it was legal.
Finding out you could order like a gram of it for like a hundred some dollars.
And then right as I was thinking about getting it, they decide, oh, no, it's bad, it's illegal.
And then you couldn't order it no more.
And it is the dumbest crap ever, the way they make that shit.
Yeah, it is retarded as fuck.
Just like, suddenly now it's bad.
And I'm like, but we had to let it kill lots of people first.
Yeah, yeah.
We had to get all the data.
We had to get all the data.
And that's the annoying thing.
In some cases, it's because it actually kills people.
But a lot of times, it'll just be down to the fact that they're like, this could replace something else.
Shut it down.
Right. Right, exactly.
We've got to keep our stock supplied.
Yeah, exactly.
We need to be the sellers.
It's like, unless we can buy the patent out, we don't want to hear this shit.
Alright, let's finish this up.
Alright. So, there you have it, folks.
Yeah. There you have it.
I thought I was going to be on the line, but it got scrolled all over the place.
There we go.
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I don't even know what that is.
The number of reviews.
Oh. It's crazy, too, because you'd be amazed, like, no matter how big something is, almost nobody actually reviews it.
Yeah, dude.
I don't know what that's about.
Like, I pulled up, like, a dude who gets, like, a few million a month, and he had 80. That's weird.
So weird.
Yeah, and I'm just like, that's a really small number.
What does that mean, dude?
Like, 80 total people reviewed you?
Like, of the millions upon millions of people that are supposedly watching this?
That sounds like it's one of those, I will buy these fake views.
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Like, are they really that much bigger?
You never really know.
The ones that actually make the money don't generally have to talk about being big.
It's all natural.
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These major accounts.
They've purchased massive amounts of views, dude.
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