EMAIL ME: paranaughtica@gmail.comTwitter/X: @paranaughticaYoutube: The Paranaughtica PodcastFacebook: The Paranaughtica Podcast Find Ole Demmagard at: lightonconspiracies.comWho is he? A Truth Seeker, Code Breaker and Peacemaker Ole ‘Arjuna’ Dammegard, awarded the Prague Peace Prize, and adopted by the Apache Nation (given the Native Indian name Wiyakpayela Wanzi, meaning Bright One) is an author, International speaker, former journalist, musician (2 solo albums), composer (TV, and a short film), coach, artist, inventor and investigator, who has dedicated more than 40 years to researching many of the global conspiracies.As a powerful front line influenser in what has been labelled Conspirituality, Ole has given more than 1 100 International interviews and millions of viewers and listeners around the world have taken part of his impressive findings and presentations. His main focus has been to find out the truth about main top political assassinations such as JFK, the Swedish Prime minister Olof Palme, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, John Lennon and other high profile targets, plus the hundreds of alleged mass shootings and terror attacks around the world, such the the Maui fires, the Las Vegas mass shooting, the Bataclan massacre, the Boston Marathon Bombing, 911, Sandy Hook, Charlie Hebdo, the Stockholm-, Berlin- and Nice truck attacks, the Norway Mass shooting, the Oklahoma City Bombing, all the London and Manchester attacks and many, many more. He was also crucial in exposing two of modern time’s worst serial-killer, in cooperation with Professor Jim Fetzer.Ole is now considered somewhat of a world leading expert on false flag operations. He has accurately predicted (on International radio) some 60 alleged terror attacks, up to 2 months before they occurred, and in addition stopped several planned massacres, the by far biggest one a massive operation consisting of 39 coordinated attacks in conjunction with the planned release of the Corona virus, in October 2019. With so many years of deep research, he has become so good at it, that his last name has now become a verb. To ‘dammegard” or ‘dammegarding’ is nowadays a term for searching for hidden clues and stopping inside jobs ordered by the Deep State. Ole has appeared as an International speaker in the USA, Mexico, UK, Germany, the Czech Republic, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Poland, Gibraltar, Spain, Indonesia, Thailand and Sweden. He was chosen to represent the people of Europe when giving a JFK-memorial speech in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas, on November 22, as well as being a speaker at the World Peace Day, both in Spain and in Gibraltar. He has also been elected as a True Gladiator by the Gladiator Bangsa in Indonesia.He is an International Raj Yoga teacher and the author of 5 books, including what has been named a Master Piece; Coup d’etat in Slow Motion, Part I-II, as well as receiving awards for his air brush art work and custom car creation. In addition, as a young man he was quite an adventurer, who after having traveled alone on an old bicycle through Europe, helped to smuggle out some friends from war-torn Iran (1984), beautifully described in the true story ‘Shadow of Tears’.FIND OLE:lightonconspiracies.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Hey everyone, I just want to let you know really quick that I've been going through some really shitty audio issues, so hang tight with me here.
This is going to be an incredible interview with Ole Demigard.
Yeah, we had to use his Zoom account to get the audio here, and for some reason my microphone, my whole system is just fried, so bear with me, and I hope you enjoy the episode.
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Hello and welcome back everyone to the show, the Paranautica Podcast.
Great to have you back.
Today I have an incredibly special guest with us.
His name is Ole Demogard, originally from Denmark.
Did I say that right?
Yeah, more or less.
Good enough.
He is an author, a former journalist, an investigator, an inventor, an international speaker, a musician with two solo albums.
He's also worked in television, produced short film, and on top of that, he's also a coach and an artist.
And the reason he is here with us today, ladies and gentlemen, is because he has dedicated around 40 years to researching many of the global conspiracies that keep us up at night scratching the paint off the walls with our toenails.
Maybe that's just me.
I don't know.
But always the main focus throughout the years has been to find the truth about the assassinations of the Swedish Prime Minister Olaf Palme, John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, John Lennon, and Princess Diana, and probably even more at this point.
He's done extensive investigations into 9-11 and the Norway attacks committed by Anders Bergenbrevik, and the Oklahoma City bombing of the Mira FBI building, the Boston Marathon bombing, As well as a plethora of school shootings and direct energy weapons and many more.
Probably throw vaccines in there too, huh?
Oh, sure.
Yeah, and Oli was also the recipient of the Prague Peace Prize in 2016, which he ceremoniously shared with David Icke, Harold Klotz, Fritz Springmeier, and Jim Mars.
And he was also adopted by the Apache Nation, and given the native name, Wewakapayelowansi, meaning Bright One.
How do you pronounce that?
Well, I'm not completely sure, but that sounded almost right.
So, if you would, Oli, just go ahead and add anything you want to that impressive introduction I just gave for you.
Thank you so much for having me on the show.
And just one thing, you said that the Norway shootings or mass shootings were carried out by Anders Benning Breivik.
He is the Patsy.
He was not the one carrying it out.
There's so many.
I mean, the different examples you gave there with assassinations and false flags and so on are in the hundreds.
I've looked into, I think, maybe close to a thousand cases by now.
And what is stunning is that instead of confirming the official narrative, Which would be the natural thing to do if you were in a society where everything is the way it should be.
I have just over and over and over and over again come to a completely different conclusion.
I've been on location many times.
I've been also very active in exposing and stopping many of these planned massacres and false flag shootings.
Yeah, let's see where we're going to go in this show.
But if you're not aware of what is actually going on in the world, it's going to be a bit of like, oh my God, because it has been very, very confusing for me over the years and very, very mind-blowing.
Because what I do is I am only trying to find the truth.
I don't care.
Who or where I find it.
I'm not here to prove anything.
I'm not here to prove that things exist that don't exist.
Not at all.
I'm just trying to transcend the madness and be part of creating a beautiful, beautiful world for us all.
Right. And I'll just add to that.
You're not here to convince anybody of anything.
You're just here to spit out some facts and get this stuff out in the world.
I always prefer when I show things.
Instead of saying, this is it, this is the way it is, I will point out and then let each and every one of the whoever is interested in listening to connect the dots themselves.
It's just that when I present something, I put a lot of effort into really, really getting down to the real facts.
And most of the time, it's like being up against Mike Tyson when it comes to truth.
I'm not really interested in debates.
I'm here to be of service and share all of these years that I put into this.
Perfect. That's awesome.
That's why I have you here, because I don't want to debate anything either.
We're on the same page with this stuff, that's for sure.
And you made a comment that a lot of the cases you looked into has been confusing for you over the time.
Do you think a lot of that has been through like...
You know, quote-unquote, President Obama's signature on the House of Resolution 4310, which allowed them to basically legalize propaganda toward us.
I mean, that exact thing, it's unbelievable when you look into it, because that is just one step.
We are now allowed to play around and play ping pong with your minds and brains however we want to do and you can't do anything.
We can't be sued.
We can't be held responsible because now we made it legal.
And so after they did that, it just went completely berserk.
In the areas of alleged mass shootings, alleged terror attacks.
It's like mass shootings are normally in the US because it's...
If I'm correct, it's built on the old Roman template, problem, reaction, solution.
They create a problem, so we would go, oh my God, oh my God, we need help, we need protection.
And then we turn towards the ones we think are there to protect us, not understanding that it's actually them who have created the problem.
And then we say, please, please give us the solution.
And they will then say, well, the solution is, and boom, it's the same every single time.
Getting us into more and more confinement, more and more slavery, more and more surveillance state, more and more digital prisons, all of it based on their problems created by them, created by absolute lies and bullshit many times and not very,
very professionally carried out.
Once you start digging into it, there's some real advanced operations going on at times, but most of the time it's absolute recycled crap.
So I have become sort of like a world-leading crap debunker because it's not even difficult once you start seeing the modus operandi of his.
And the thing is with myself, when I don't understand something, I try to go to the source.
I try to...
Educate myself by listening to people from the inside or people that used to work in black ops or the CIA or NSA or FBI or ambulance drivers or firefighters or police officers or members of the SWAT teams in different countries and so on.
Learning from them because it's, what is it, I mean, everybody can, you know, say stuff, but that doesn't really matter.
It's like...
It's the only thing that matters is the truth, and the truth will set you free, to quote a book.
You know, it is the truth.
They say the devil is in the detail.
I say, no, no, no, no.
You will find the devil behind the details.
We have to look in the details to be led on the right.
You know, because there's so much deception, so much manipulation, so much propaganda in these operations, diversions, all kinds of...
I mean, it's really like being up against David Copperfield sometimes, like an illusionist, The Wizard of Oz.
So it's a really tricky, tricky area to get into and understand.
So I go to the ones who know.
And this is how I become good at this, because I've learned from people who used to be in the trade.
Yeah, I mean, you have talked to some pretty high-up people.
You're friends with quite a few people that I'm like, what?
How did you become friends with?
I don't even know, like Lee Harvey Oswald's wife?
How many?
Mistress. Oh, mistress, yes.
Judy Twerry-Baker.
I've come from...
I used to be a confused farmer boy who was just stumbling around in the world trying to make sense out of absolute madness that was already in those days.
There, not understanding.
I was just trying to wrap my head around these things because I was confused and I became obsessed with some of these...
Assassinations to start with, because I don't know what it was, but I just got fascinated by them.
And then over the years, what differs me from many other people that have been looking into these things is that I've been looking on a global scale.
Instead of just looking at Dallas or just looking at Robert Kennedy or just looking at the Swedish Prime Minister, I've been all over.
And I've been to more than 50 countries looking into these type of things, just trying to get an understanding, because what I've started to see is that they follow very specific templates.
I've never found the templates in writing.
I've written them myself after, you know, seeing it there and there and there and there and there.
And then it's sort of like, wait a second, is it possible that...
We're being exposed to the same agenda.
Is it possible that some of these, or most of these possibly, of these alleged events, assassinations and so on, could somehow be connected?
In the beginning, I had no idea that there were any connections between, for instance, RFK, MLK, JFK.
I had no idea.
Now I know it's the same players.
To a large extent.
Large extent.
And that they're using the same templates, the same themes, the same blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah. Over and over and over again.
And how can they get away with it?
Because we're absolutely brain dead.
You know, we have been so asleep.
They say the American dream.
When do you dream?
When you're asleep.
When you're asleep.
So it's like, yeah.
And they get away with it, where it's like, come on, what the hell?
Look at it.
I mean, as soon as people start seeing it, when they put some effort into it, I've done everything I can to point out, look at that, look at that, look at that, look at that.
These are the steps, just like a recipe.
If you want to make some kind of pie or whatever, there are specific ingredients needed to create what is called a pie.
And the steps.
The steps.
You have to do it in the right...
There has to be the right temperature.
It has to be salt and pepper and whatever, flour.
I'm a disaster in the kitchen, but I know that there is a different recipe for a pie than a birthday cake.
It's just different.
And to get these things, you need specific ingredients.
It's the same with these type of operations.
For a mass shooting, there's this recipe, alleged mass shooting.
Please add the word alleged to whatever when I point at these things.
Alleged mass shooting.
And then we have alleged...
Not assassinations.
These are most of the time real because they want to get rid of people that are standing up against their agenda, but also alleged terror attacks.
The mass shootings are in the U.S. more or less because in the U.S. are where the weapons are.
So it's problem reaction solution.
They're trying to make the weapons into the problem so that the solution will be to get the people to give up their arms.
That's it.
Boom. I think the U.S. is like the training ground for all of that.
It's like the playground for all of that.
I mean, the attack on the Second Amendment, there was, in Arizona, it was found, they had like a training camp for these school shooters.
And that wasn't covered by the mainstream media.
So these schools are there teaching, I don't know, these special ops people how to go into schools and create fake events for this very purpose.
Have you heard about that school they found in Arizona?
No, not exactly that school.
But, I mean, terror and mass shootings are big business.
We're talking in the billion-dollar industry with crowds on demand, crowds for rent, you know, all kinds of crisis actors, things, and security drills and security arrangements, CCTV cameras,
installment, digital this, digital that.
It's a massive, massive, massive business.
It's only created on terror or mass shootings.
So, okay, that's great.
If mass shootings really occur the way we're being told, then, my God, we need to protect our kids from it.
We need to protect our schools.
We need to protect whatever.
But once you start seeing over and over and over again that these mass shootings, so many of them are not real.
They are staged.
And you've got companies like Crisis Solutions, Crisis Cast, there's so many of them that specializes in carrying out these type of operations.
Boom! So once you start seeing that so many are not real, then the solutions are based on something that is completely incorrect.
And so...
Schools being turned into like war zones, almost like to enter into a school, you have to go through all kinds of security things.
To go into an airport, you have to go through all kinds of security things.
To go to a train station, all of it, if you ask me if I'm correct, it's built on absolute lies over and over and over again, where the enemy is from within.
The enemy is from within.
Over. I keep repeating myself today, but it's over and over and over.
And it's the same, the same.
It's like watching the same Rocky movie over and over again, expecting to see some different outcome of the next step.
It's going to change.
It's going to change.
The scene's going to be different this time.
No. It's always the same.
Always the same.
Always the same.
And so I looked into...
Yeah, I do not think that if I say a thousand cases, I think I'm not exaggerating.
So I should be a super expert on Muslim terrorists.
I mean, that should be the name of the game, my trade.
I don't know the name of anyone, hardly.
I do not know any...
I don't know any mass shooting that I can say was...
A real mass shooting, the way we've been told.
I know hundreds that were staged and blamed on some innocent patsy, completely confused or phantom identity or somebody that was suicided on location so that it would be,
thank you, game over, go back to sleep, we'll take care of it from here onwards, that type of thing.
The same with terror attacks.
I mean, I have not come in touch with a real terrorist.
It's the same.
Terrorism was created in 1976 in Israel, where Bush Sr. and other people were meeting up, some Israeli leaders, all of them former terrorists, that met up, and they came up with the concept of terrorism.
Terrorism, because after the Second World War, What they found was that they need...
It's really much, much older than that.
But even the old Romans knew that the only way you can control the masses, if you are a small little group of super psychos most of the time that think that you're so much better than the rest, how can you get the population to believe that you're actually a god,
that their slavery is because...
That they should worship you.
Kiss my feet and go into unjust wars, get killed, get shot up, whatever.
Pay everything you own.
50% goes to me.
You know, how do you do that?
How can you get?
I mean, imagine the old Romans.
They were a bunch of weirdos walking around in sheets and a flower pot on the head, but they were controlling an empire.
What they believed was the world.
Before Twitter, before fax machines, before telecommunications, before all of it, how did they do it?
And they were the ones that came up with very few tactics, but super, super powerful mind-fucking, mind-fuckery.
That is the technical term, how to fuck up your mind and believe the propaganda.
But all of that is based on fear.
It is only through fear that the few can control the many.
It's just like a bully in a schoolyard.
That individual terrorizes the neighborhood through fear.
Violence, fear equals fear.
So they understood that and they mastered the technique.
And it has just been amped up over and over and over again.
So you need an enemy out there, something that is scary out there, so that you can be the savior.
Because you need to fuck it up so that they believe that it's not you, but that problem is out there.
I tell you, it's here.
It's here, it's here, it's here.
So... Yeah, they always have a boogeyman.
You know, the Sandinistas.
It's just always boogeyman.
One after the other.
Noriega. And then it's...
They always have a name.
They always have someone ready.
Some patsy ready to take out.
Some boogeyman.
Like, Putin's been a boogeyman for...
20, 30 years or something?
I mean, you just mentioned Manuel Noriega.
I mean, he was a CIA asset.
That's how they do it also, because they need to control the individual.
So first, he was an asset.
There was a lot of truck trading going on.
It was the Iran-Contra, the whole shebang where weapons were being transported out of the US, stolen from the National Guard, changed so that the serial numbers were exchanged.
There was a factory in northern Mexico that was officially making parking meters, but what they were actually doing was...
the exact parts where the serial numbers on the weapons were.
So they just replaced these things and sent them down in big medevac planes or C-130s.
The weapons going that way.
And then the so-called enterprise created by Oliver North and his gangster buddies were...
Chip Tatum.
Chip Tatum was one of the pilots.
He's a friend of mine.
But where they then, in exchange for the weapon, got raw cocaine, which was flown back and then imported illegally into the US through the big kingpins in this whole operation was Bush Sr.,
George Bush Sr., and Bill Clinton, who was then...
A governor of Arkansas.
So they used a small little airfield in Mena, Arkansas.
That was one of the main import things.
And even, I mean, this whole operation, all of these operations are normally completely compartmentalized.
So Chip Tatum, who is one of the top assassins, but also he's an incredible pilot.
And he was flying some of these planes in and out.
He was not aware.
That it was drugs that he was carrying in.
He thought it was like blood transfusion, plasma, stuff like that in coolers.
And it was only because there was a really rough landing where one of them turned over and out of it fell raw cocaine.
So Chip was like, holy moly, what is going on?
And from then on, he started collecting evidence of what he was involved in as an insurance.
He was actually making reports.
And putting that in the reports.
Not to start with.
Not to start with.
It was like, it was his way out.
Yeah. It was like in 85. Yeah.
It was all the way up.
He left the whole thing or managed to get out alive in 92. And that was only because he had gathered so much evidence against these bastards that he managed to...
Because... George Bush Sr. called him in to get him to take out Ross Perot because Ross Perot was going to stand up against George Bush Sr.
George Bush Sr., if you want to see a monster and a key player in so much of this darkness, that's the guy.
Not Boy George.
Oh, yeah.
Not Boy George.
He's like a drunken joke.
But Sr., that is a heavy, heavy, heavyweight in this whole thing.
Yeah, with the Franklin cover-up.
From all the way from before the Kennedy assassination, he was the paymaster for Operation 40, who was a major part of the JFK assassination and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
But anyway, he's the guy who was on the inside really controlling a lot of all of this.
But anyway, so Bush Sr. wanted to...
Chip Tatum, who had been part of taking out 14 people at that point, and Bush Sr. wanted him to take out Ross Perot, and that was just too much for Chip.
That would have been a lot.
That would have been huge.
Chip just said, I can't take it anymore.
So they wanted to kill Chip, because he was like, if you stand up against these ones, you have a tendency to die very urgently.
So anyway...
You can't say no to them.
No, and he did.
And so they really wanted to take him out.
And Chip just said, just before you kill me, please watch this.
And then he had videos showing the evidence he had.
And then it was spread all over the world with a so-called dead man's grip, which is like if he died or if he disappeared or whatever within a certain time.
Dead man's grip, it would lose and it would be released in multiple places at the same time.
So they didn't dare to take him out and instead they made a deal with him where he had to go to prison to corrupt himself so that his world would be destroyed so that he couldn't step forward later on and expose them.
And so he managed to get out alive which is against all odds.
I found this on a PDF of his.
He's published a lot of stuff, Chip Tatum.
And I found this document by George Bush.
And it says, you are hereby ordered into service of the United States government.
It has been determined that something's been redacted.
Has illegally obtained documents which are of concern to the security of the United States and selected allies of the United States.
It has therefore been determined by findings of the National Security Council.
That the documents must be recovered.
Due to this determination, you, Chip Tatum, are authorized to use whatever means necessary to recover said documents and ensure that this criminal is brought to justice.
You are authorized to exceed existing regulations and something else, I can't read, to accomplish this mission.
If loss of life occurs as a result of the performance of your duties, you shall be exempt and protected from prosecution, signed George W. or Senior Bush.
Yeah. No, it's a license to kill.
He was legalized as an assassin at that point.
So crazy.
No, it's the way it is.
How many did he kill?
That I know of, 14. He was involved in 14 assassinations.
But God knows, that's just assassinations.
He was involved in a lot.
But it's like so many of these people.
I mean...
Chip was...
Is it okay if we just surf around?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Let's just jump everywhere.
So Chip was just a surfer guy from Florida and ended up in the Vietnam War.
He came there, young, unexperienced.
And one of the first things was that he was...
If I remember right, they were going to do a...
They were going to go into...
Thailand, I think, and do a false flag operation against an airport there, blow up the airport, blame it on, they were going to, you know, bring some uniforms, kill some people, put their uniforms on so it would look like it was the enemy that did whatever.
And so that operation was...
Supposed to be carried out by people who knew what they were doing.
But one guy, if I remember right, please correct me, had a broken leg from, he jumped out with a parachute, broke his leg.
So they were one man short.
So it was just like, we need one, we need one.
And somebody just pointed at Chip, you.
He was 18, 19, something like that.
He had no idea what he was getting himself into.
He was just ordered, you get on the chopper, boom.
And so they went in.
Carried out the whole operation.
And the idea was that all of the people that were involved in that operation should be assassinated afterwards, should be silenced.
So he was, without knowing it, he was, they were planning to kill the whole bunch, including him, because he knew...
Was this the Team Red Rock?
Yeah. They were captured by North Vietnamese?
That's the one, Operation Red Rock.
And so when...
The whole thing unfolded the way it should.
And, I mean, Chip was just like, he had no idea what was going on.
He was just filling in uniforms, you know, like boom, boom, boom, and whatever, completely shocked.
And then they were taking in a truck or a jeep or something and was being driven somewhere by friends, friends in uniform.
And suddenly his officer in charge opened fire inside the vehicle and killed all of the other ones.
And Chip was just like, oh, my God, oh, my God, what's going on?
And then the other guy said they were taking us to be executed, to just silence.
Chip had no idea what he was getting, what he had got himself.
And it was all because of that broken leg.
So anyway, so the group who now managed to survive because this officer killed the other people that they should kill.
They then had to go from behind enemy line back.
And they took them forever.
And there were only two people that survived, Chip and another guy.
And they were completely shot up.
Shot up.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
He was wounded and shrapnel in the head and I don't know what.
And then he was only 19. And so he was taken back against all odds, survived, taken to a hospital, Veterans Hospital, I think somewhere on the East Coast.
And then when he woke up in this bed, next to him was William Colby, later the director for the CIA, who said, son, you are in a situation where you have a choice, and the choice is that you know too much.
Or the situation is you know too much.
So you have a choice.
Either we have to silence you or you start working for us.
And that's how he got recruited into the CIA.
So he was working with people that wanted to kill him to start with.
I mean, just imagine that one for a start.
People that wanted to blow your head off.
I mean, normally you have maybe somebody at work that you don't really like or sort of that gives you strange looks or something.
Here are people that would like you dead.
I can't even imagine that.
But then from then on, he started getting trained as an assassin.
He was a very good shot.
And he was also an extremely good pilot.
So they used him mostly as a pilot.
And later, he was a pilot for all the president from Nixon up to George Floyd Sr.
And he's done a lot of...
Of incredible flights in and out and wherever they needed.
Barry Seals was another of these incredible pilots.
Tom Cruise played him in this movie called American Made, I think.
He's another one of these incredible pilots.
And I'll tell you one.
I'll give you a little story because I've been on his show many times.
I've interviewed him as well.
And there was one time that I had booked an interview with him.
And just like, it was a live interview.
And just half an hour before, he cancelled.
And I was like, come on, Chip.
What the hell?
That is not really...
Couldn't you just give me a little time before?
Because instead, I was sitting there on my own for two hours.
Just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So not my favourite time.
But anyway, so no explanation.
And then...
A few weeks later, two, three, four weeks later, he got in touch with me.
He's very hard to pinpoint.
You know, he's all the time like this.
So anyway, he got back to me and he said, I'm here now.
Okay, fine.
So I said, what happened?
And he said, well, I'm very sorry.
There was this family thing.
And I didn't want to waste it, you know.
But he just continued.
Yeah, my son.
Let me see.
My son had got his visa cancelled.
No, let me see.
How was it?
His son was abroad.
I think he was in Guatemala or Mexico or something like that.
And they wouldn't let him into the U.S. and he needed some official stamps or whatever, something like that.
His son needed in and out.
And he wasn't allowed by the legal.
So Chip flew under the radar when he didn't do the interview with me.
He went stealth underneath.
So he just took his own plane?
I don't know his own plane, but he took a plane.
I mean, he can fly everything from a Hercules to a mini jet type of thing.
Anyway, so he flew and picked up his son, flew him back into the States, sorted out the paper and flew him back down and then came back.
And then we did the interview.
Because it's like the way he sees it, just get it done.
And he is, as far as I know, one of the few people that can disappear from radar.
He has a technique to fly to not be observed on radar.
And people have offered him a fortune to tell how he does it.
But as far as I know, he's never told anyone.
But I don't know how he does it.
Man, he just turns off his little...
I don't know, electronic thing, and his plane's covered with some graphite, so this can't pick him up or something?
No, I think it's more the way he flies.
It's not the transponder cell.
I don't even know if it's super low.
I don't know.
What is he doing?
You ask him.
I mean, he has not told anyone, but he's famous for it.
He's also...
I'll tell you another one with him because I've been looking into a lot of people that sort of died and then did they really?
You know, there's so many of these mysteries where you have like Jim Morrison from The Doors and many other people were sort of like officially dead.
Very strange autopsy, if any.
And then all of these rumors and did they die?
Did they not?
I mean, there's so many of them.
Celebrities also where their career was starting to go down or musicians' career going down.
They die suddenly.
They sell millions of records in, you know, like in memory of or whatever.
Suddenly their sales goes like this and there's a fortune made of the dead.
So I asked Chip one time, because he also used to fly people and prisoners into a prison in Missouri.
It was a special prison where the doctors were doing stuff to them.
He said they were just doing stuff to them.
Experiments? Yep.
There's a lot around Springfield, Missouri.
Where a lot of MKUltra stuff has been doing.
And some of it was chipped flying people in and out.
You know, the people they were doing it to.
Not nice.
But anyway, he was also flying from the States and mostly to Canada.
And he said he never mentioned any names, but he said more than once, I've been flying and I'm looking on my shoulder like, my God, I thought you were dead.
Oh, man.
So who?
These people, you know, being flying in, out, in, out, in, out.
Yeah. Yeah, I know a lot of people fake their deaths.
What about John McAvee?
Like, he's faked his death like three times.
He's been to prison like twice.
Currently, officially right now, he's dead.
But I don't think he's dead.
John McAvee is a very colorful, strange, dangerous, dangerous individual for them as well.
Also dangerous for other people.
But John McAvee, I find it interesting that he was taken and then sent to a Spanish prison.
Why Spain?
Spanish prison.
Yeah, exactly.
He died in a Spanish prison.
But that prison is right outside Barcelona in northeastern Spain.
And the Spanish police...
They are trained every year by the Israeli police.
They go to Israel and they get their special training there.
And Mossad is very heavily...
The presence is very heavy in that area.
It's called Catalonia.
And even the police, it's not Mossad, it's Mossos in Barcelona.
And then so this guy was being transported to this Spanish prison, which I would suggest it's possible that it could very well be controlled by Israel since the police force and
the police force.
But that's where they got hold of him.
And then...
I mean, he even got a tattoo where, what did it say, assassinated or something like that?
Yeah, I saw that.
And so he was very aware of that he was in a dangerous situation.
His relatives doesn't believe that he'd suicide.
Forget about suicide.
Oh, yeah, no.
The question is, did he die?
Here's another one.
Did he die?
Is he still alive?
Because he has an incredible knowledge.
So often people die, but they're just transported to somewhere else where they're being abused for whatever.
So he's a very mysterious individual.
So I don't know.
Because videos come out.
He keeps posting videos here and there, pretty spaced out between times.
And he's talking.
He just goes off and the things he goes off on.
But comments are like, are you dead?
And he's like, nope.
Aren't you in prison?
Yep. It's like, how are you recording in prison?
And he just leaves like a smiley face.
So they were definitely treating him well over there.
Definitely treating him well.
And then you have now video effects and the whole thing with...
All the AI.
AI thing.
Is it him?
Is it not?
Is it...
Man, I want it to be him.
Yeah, so do I. But I mean, what is what?
Who's Obama?
Who's Putin?
Yo, I heard Putin say that.
Sotoro. Did you really?
Barry Sotoro.
Yeah, but when you see somebody on screen saying something, is it really Putin saying it?
Nowadays, no.
I give it two grains of salt.
Like, I don't...
I don't watch the news for one, but when I see things on Twitter or whatever, I'm like, ah, dude, this could be totally deep state stuff.
This could be totally deep state.
It astounds me.
It brings me to a point in my life where I'm just like, what am I doing here?
What is going on?
Is anything real?
What am I doing?
What am I putting out for content?
Because it's going to be torn apart.
What's going on in the world, man?
Everything is just so confusing.
Which they want.
Before my mother died, she studied her whole life.
She was reading non-stop, more or less.
She knew, I don't know how many languages.
She was very intelligent.
And before she died, I said, so how are you doing?
And she said, still confused on a higher level.
Oh, man.
I think that's just what it's going to be.
Always confused.
Yeah, but I think it's a healthy point where we are at when I hear you.
I mean, I'm very, very careful with what I say, what I back.
Well, this is true.
Is it really?
How do we know?
How do we know?
But I tell you, the way that they can manipulate us, control us, normally it comes through screens like that, the ones you have in front of you, digital manipulation through screens.
The truth about life, I would say, look out the window.
That's a lot more truthful than you will ever know for sure is coming at you through a screen.
And meaning that life is actually beautiful and absolutely magnificent and unbelievably complex and mysterious.
That's the window.
And then you have this part.
Where we don't know who are we dealing with.
Now AI has just entered.
How did that happen?
I mean, was that an avalanche?
Like all of these companies at the same time just came with, well, nobody knew about AI and suddenly all of them have developed all of these things.
Incredible. No, that's an attack on us.
And the level when you...
Who are you communicating with?
It's like I say, please, if I speak to chat, you know, can you do-do-do?
And then I say, please, because it's like, who is answering me?
Oh, is it a computer?
No. Is it a database I'm communicating with?
No. It's a digital?
Who knows?
I know that a friend of mine was in contact with one of the people that was officially part of creating the first AI.
If I understand right, what he said was that we created this thing by connecting sort of wires.
If you look at it sort of on a simple way, we connected different computers and we wired this whole thing up.
Then we press the button on.
And from then on, we have no idea.
And this guy referred to it as an entity.
Entity. Entity.
And you have Elon Musk and other people.
I mean, Elon, I trust about 0% if that is high enough.
This guy is warning us about what he is doing.
Be aware of this.
Well, you are part of it with all of these companies, whatever.
But he says, and other people also on a very high level that have been part of evolving this, whatever it is, saying...
What you do is you're letting the devil enter into your home.
And I'm like, that doesn't sound good to me.
Well, it's very, very convenient.
You can do all of this, blow, blow, blow, and suddenly poof.
Yeah, but I mean, I prefer not having the devil, whatever that is, in my house.
No, I'm against it.
I'm completely against AI.
It's like these people, like Musk for one, I don't trust him or any of these big names.
The guy from Facebook, you know, they have ulterior motives and they're being paid by the CIA.
Like, they are assets.
And, like, you look at Google, that's just a giant spyware application.
Just like Facebook, data, you know, it's all data.
So they're robbing us every way they can.
With Musk...
Yeah, because he's talking about how bad AI is.
Because he went on that, he did some interview, I don't know, a TED Talk maybe.
He's like, we've got to be really worried about AI.
It could become very dangerous.
And then he goes to 180 degrees saying, AI is great.
Everyone should get a neural plant in their brain.
It's going to be awesome.
We're connected to the cloud.
It's like, what?
Like, that's what these people do.
They put out both sides of a story and everyone gets confused and they're like, well, which?
I don't know what to think about this.
But for me, I look at it and I'm like, I call bullshit on everything.
Because that's what it is.
It's bullshit.
What they're going to do, what Musk is doing with Starlink, he's putting all the Starlinks up there for internet.
And then they're going to shut down the internet as we know it.
And everyone's going to have to be using Starlink.
So it's completely controlled.
It'll be controlled 100% all the way around.
And then when they shut the regular internet down, it becomes dead.
I don't know.
But it's going to force everybody, if they want to use the internet, to use Starlink.
So then Musk and the CIA will have complete control over that whole operation.
And that's just going to be more of spying.
So, I mean, that's just my opinion on that.
Does that make sense?
It makes sense.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I hear myself saying, I don't know, more and more.
But it's like my sweetest says, but...
Come on, you should know.
I know, but I don't know.
I don't know.
All I know is I know nothing.
It was a wise words Plato once said or something.
One of those old guys.
I did want to ask you a question, though.
I did want to ask you a question here.
Could you explain to myself and my audience, you and Professor Jim Fetzer helped bring down two...
Of modern times worst serial killers.
So who were these guys?
Because I cover a lot of true crime on the show.
And so when I heard you say that, I was like, all right, I need to know who these people are.
Yeah. In the area of real top assassins, I need to answer this in a little bit like this.
You've got normal serial killers and so on that many of them have been manufactured.
They're very close.
It's very connected to MKUltra.
It is where many of them grew up on Army bases, Air Force bases.
More or less all of them have their parents working in military whatever.
The same with many of the rock musicians that came forward through Laurel Canyon in the 60s, manufactured in the very, very same way.
And here we have an extreme other one.
Many of the serial killers, when I looked into many of them, most of them are in the US.
We're back to that.
How come?
Well, serial killers are some part of humanity.
Absolutely not.
Yeah, exactly.
And many times these serial killers are used to cover up CIA operations, I would say, because you have, for one thing, it's fear-based.
People are terrified and then they will, you know, accept more and more protection.
But if you look at many of these world-famous serial killers, one of the things with a serial killer, a real one, if there is such a thing, is that they often use the very same over-and-over technique.
If they succeed in one way, they will continue.
They won't slash people up like this and chop them up in pieces and then use a.22 with a silencer.
The next time.
It's like it doesn't.
No. So when you see many of these, you have slaughter, slaughter, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, completely random violence.
This is also the strategy of tension, the CIA's strategy of tension, where they just hit random victims like that to create chaos, to create fear.
Okay, so...
Slaughter, slaughter, blood, blood, blood, and then boom, boom, boom, a whole family dead.22 caliber, you know, headshots while asleep, including the dog.
What was that?
And then slaughter, slaughter, slaughter, slaughter,.22 silencer, all the family dead.
So look into the ones with the.22 caliber.
You will see many times they were involved in arms trading or drug trading and were competitors.
Or people that had, you know, what do you call it?
Turned their back on them or done anything.
So I think, or were competitors.
So I think very often these serial killers have been used to cover CIA operations.
So that you have boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
But that would be too obvious.
Three hits like that.
Who did that?
Who would benefit?
The CIA, for instance, like that.
So they're covering that up and they're using these butchers.
Very often people that they don't even know what they're doing.
They have no memory of it.
They hear voices.
So Manchurian candidate type of stuff.
Many times, yes.
Then, to get back to the ones that you were talking about.
You have real assassins like Chip Tatum, like other people.
But that world, if you ask Chip and other assassins, they say the world of real assassins is very small.
Very small.
I'm also now in contact with Jimmy Files, who is the shooter behind the picket fence, who is the guy who fired the final headshot that absolutely blew the head up.
Yeah, and he was born into a program.
He was conceived for a program of assassins, a super soldier program.
Like he was literally birthed into that.
Yeah, his mother was really poor and she signed up in Mobile, Alabama for a sort of like a super soldier program where she was inseminated and out of her womb came...
Jimmy Files, Jimmy Sutton, that he was born.
But he died officially at birth, but he did not.
So officially his papers, boom, dead at birth.
But instead, his whole life as a child, he never went to a normal school.
He never went to a high school.
He was only educated in killing assassinations from day one.
And then we have...
Jimmy Files, according to himself, I've interviewed him, you can find on my website, lightonconspiracies.com or damagard.com.
I've interviewed him three or four times in great detail because I've been backing this guy for many years because I've never heard him say one word that was not the truth, which is incredible to get that from the inside.
But anyway, according to himself, he has been...
Directly responsible for the death of about a thousand people.
My God.
Yeah. And we're not talking just assassination.
We're talking also in war situations where he called in, you know, like where the napalm bombs were dropped.
He was the one calling for them.
So he's counting these people as well.
But he's been involved in the death of a thousand people, and many of them, many of them.
With headshots.
He's killed many of that.
That's his speciality.
So there are two other people very closely involved with these top assassinations as well, but that have been part of the cleaners, the head cleaners afterwards.
Head cleaners have been the term where, for instance, around the JFK assassination, there's been around 300 people dying under very strange circumstances.
Some people say 50. I have a list of around 302 that had died under, like, what was that?
You know, accidents, suicides, killings, drive-by shooting, you name it.
I mean, I'm not talking about people involved in the assassination, but people that knew too much or heard something or was married to someone who knew too much or whatever.
It's many.
So someone...
Someone has been responsible of creating these suicides, arranging for these accidents, arranging for these killings, and someone that nobody looks into around the JFK assassin, that community.
Everybody's focused on the assassination.
What about these?
Who did all of these?
And two of the main cleaners were Walter Tabinski and Clyde Foreshaw, completely unknown names in this area.
So, the way that I got in touch with this was, never heard the names before, never ever, was that there was a woman that contacted Professor Jim Fetzer, who's a friend of mine, even though we don't agree on a lot of things around JFK,
absolutely not, but we're friends.
I've done maybe 100 shows with him, 50 at least.
Oh, wow.
So he one day shared about a hundred hours of telephone recorded conversations with a woman called Hayley Otis, a Canadian woman.
Now Hayley Otis, it has this photographic memory.
She has an incredible memory.
She knows if you say the 6th of October 1962, she says, yes, it was a great day.
It started raining around 11. You know, this came in.
She's unbelievable, unbelievable, but so valuable as a witness.
And she grew up with Clyde Foreshaw and his cousin, Walter Tabinsky.
And these two were also...
As very young kids, I don't know if they were born into these programs, just like Jimmy Files, but they were taken, and from a very early age, they were put through death education, if you, I don't know what to call it else.
Murder training.
Yeah, murder training.
It was Operation Paperclip.
All of these scientists and experts and the people that were part of turning OSS into the CIA, they started these.
The programs to have access to assassins.
So they started trending very early on.
And I think they were taking in at the round of age three, four, five, something like that, if not before.
And so Clyde and his cousin Tabenski, if they're still alive, I don't know.
They're quite old at this point, but they used to live in Toronto.
Anyway. As children, they were called in and used by these doctors and experts and trained from an early age.
They started training them in killing animals.
And then when they got a little bit older and comfortable with that, desensitized, they got them to kill other children, babies.
And then they worked their way up so that by the time they were teenagers, you know, they were cold-blooded killers.
Just psychopaths.
Wow. Yes.
Sociopaths. Sociopaths, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know about these two.
But anyway, so they were being used very early on by the CIA as hitmen.
And they were in Dallas that day.
If I'm correct, I can only say from my point of view, from Hayley Otis, who says that they are the ones who bragged about...
Their involvement in the JFK assassination and many, many, many other operations.
So if you look at in Dealey Plaza, there are multiple shooters around.
It's not one, it's not two.
They're all over the place.
All different angles.
All different angles.
This could not go wrong.
They had like option A, B, C. They were all over the place.
And I've identified more or less all of
One of the guys, if you're on the grassy knoll side, the layout of Dealey Plaza is quite strange, but you've got Elm Street going down, Houston Street, Main Street, and then Elm Street going down.
It takes a school book depository.
And then when you go down, you have Abraham Saprudo withstanding filming the whole thing up on a pillar.
If you go to, if you continue towards the grassy knoll, you will see that on the Oliver Nicks movie, there's a car that has been reversed up against the white wall.
It was like a fence right there, wasn't it?
No, the fence is further down.
That's where Jimmy Files was.
So there's a white wall first.
And the first shooter there where on that side, I mean, there's shooters in many different other areas, but the first shooter standing next to a white car like this, that's Clyde Foreshore.
And it's Hayley Otis' brother who is driving the car because that leaves within seconds.
Then the next shooter is the so-called Batch Man or Black Cat.
His name was Lucien Sarty, a French assassin from the Marseille mob that was brought in by Carlos Marcello in Louisiana.
He was in a police uniform.
He was the next shooter.
And then you had Jimmy Files behind the picket fence.
So there was like three shooters.
Boom, boom, boom.
Clyde Forshaw.
That's one.
Then on the opposite side, you will see, when you see Kennedy go up like this, and he's hit in the throat, look right before that happens.
On the opposite side of the grassy knoll, you will see that there's a guy in khaki-colored...
Clothes with a massive big bulletproof vest on.
I mean, we're talking big one and he has a small little gun and he goes up into a shooting stance like that.
He fires.
Really? I could actually share it here and just show it to you.
I've never seen this.
No, it's in our face.
I'm the only one pointing it out.
I don't understand what that is.
But anyway, and it was only because Hayley Otis said that Walter Zubinski had been bragging about it because we had this mystery about this small little hole in the throat of Kennedy.
And that's the first where he goes up like this.
So if you look at it...
Walter Zubinski go up and he just very relaxed, let his hands fall down to the side.
And according to what Walter Zubinski was bragging to Heliotis was that he had a special gun, that small caliber.
Extremely poisonous gun that hit him right in the throat to make him, what do you call it?
Incapacitated. Exactly.
So that he could not move because they were going for a headshot.
So he's one of the absolute first shots that are fired.
He makes sure it's only like eight feet from the car and the car comes very slowly.
So it's a turkey shoot.
Boom. He hits him.
Oh, he goes like that.
And that's when...
The rest of them start shooting.
Listen, and then afterwards, you can see Walt Tabinsky very calmly, when everybody else is rushing towards the grassy knoll, everybody is running out.
You can see him walking very, very calmly towards the corner of the Texas School Book Depository with this massive, big bulletproof vest.
Was he just scared that he was going to get shot?
So he's like, I'm just going to wear this vest.
No, no, no.
These guys are not scared.
They know they're untouchable.
It's just typical military things.
No, no, no.
They know that they're untouchable.
People involved in operations on that level are untouchable.
I'm just wondering why he's wearing a bulletproof vest, though.
Because he was standing where all of these other people were on his shoes.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He might get shot, so he's wearing that.
Yeah. Listen, explaining this whole thing, I'll show you instead.
So let me just...
Yeah, I would like to see that.
I would love to see that.
I do remember seeing pictures, it might have been Oliver Stone's book or something, but behind the grassy knoll, there were like two cars and a group of like five guys just standing there.
And then that was before Kennedy came.
And then once Kennedy was shot, they all just left.
No, I'm not really sure what you're referring to.
There were...
Two people behind the picket fence that was seen by the witness Lee Bowers.
That's Jimmy Files and General Edward Lansdale.
They were the people.
Lansdale was the sort of ground coordinator of some of the shooters.
Let me just find Walt Zabinski first, because that one, that is heavy duty.
If you haven't seen it before.
Yeah, I mean, I've seen so much footage, but there's so much going on.
Yeah, but the thing is, I don't know why people are not seeing this one, so I'm very grateful to get a chance just to share this with you.
So let me just see it.
Boom, here we go.
And I've also...
I've also managed, or there was one program where they managed to combine the, there was a sound recording of the shots being fired, and you can see they synchronized it.
So let me just, boom, shakalaka, share sound, and sorry for that.
Can you see my screen?
Yes, yep.
Okay, so here's the Zapruder.
So please be aware of above the limbo in the way we see it, a guy in light-colored clothes with a bulletproof vest who just goes into a stand, boom, and then he just very calmly relaxes,
let go of his arms.
There he is.
I'll show it.
Yeah, you can hear all the gunshots.
There he is.
Right there.
Can you see that?
He's right there.
Boom. Do you see this guy here?
Can you see my mouse?
Yeah, yep, yep.
Yeah, I've got much, much clearer photos of him.
Aiming. Can you see this?
Definitely aiming.
Here he fires.
And then he just lets go of his arms very calmly, very relaxed.
That's right there.
Can you see it?
Boom. Very relaxed.
And he's got like a small little black gun.
Is he all in white?
It's... I'll show you the photo.
Camouflage? No, no, no.
Damn, how did nobody...
How did nobody around see him raising his arm and shoot?
How come, Coon, that all of these years later, nobody is looking at it?
I don't get it.
That's crazy.
I know.
We're blind.
Everybody's looking at other stuff.
They're looking at Kennedy.
They're looking at his arms.
They're looking at where he's hit in the throat.
Yes, he is, but...
I'll show you a still photo of Walter Jabinski.
He's literally standing there holding a gun toward the president.
How is that not evidence for people to understand?
Man, that's crazy.
No, that's not a good photo.
And then was there also a bullet that struck the curb?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay. There's...
Okay, so sorry about the tech stuff here.
That's all right.
I deal with it all the time.
Yeah, but it just...
Can you see my screen?
Can you see everybody else that's running here?
That's the limo.
There's the guy.
There's the limo here.
Everybody's running that way.
You know, people are still sitting, lying down here.
The shots have just been fired.
And then you got this guy.
Can you see him calmly walking away?
Yeah, he's just walking away.
What's his name?
Walter Tabinsky.
And do you see the size of that bulletproof vest?
Yeah, it's massive.
It's not discreet at all.
Okay. His whole outfit is not discreet.
Like, what is happening there?
He's just very calmly walking.
He would stand out like a sore thumb.
Yeah. So why are we not noticing him?
I don't know anyone else than me who is pointing it out.
And I didn't see him until Haley Otis talked about him.
So he just walked across, took a bicycle.
This is crazy.
I know.
And then this guy over here is holding a rifle.
The guy right there, right in the middle to the left a little bit.
The black guy, right in front of that middle group.
Yeah, that guy.
Looks like he's holding a rifle.
That is, and there you go.
I haven't noticed that.
I mean, how can I not have noticed that?
That is unbelievable.
What else would that be?
It really looks like a rifle when you see it.
So thank you for pointing that out.
It just shows you, once again, I'm completely focused on this guy, not looking at this guy.
So it's like, yeah.
I mean, that looks like a Carcano 38 Special or whatever.
The alleged gun.
Yeah, no, no.
That wasn't even fired that day.
And the guy who, or the person who ordered it, you know, it said that Oswald ordered it with a mail order.
The one that signed that mail order was Hayley Otis, because she was involved with these guys as a young...
Young woman, but she was not aware of what she was involved in.
But anyway, so Walter Dubinsky is not the only place that he appears because...
Can you see the change on my...
Is it another photo now?
Yes, yep.
Okay. And now he's standing next to someone.
Yeah. This is Orlando Bosch, as far as I know, also called Dr. Death.
But there was...
I'm just going to show you because in this is...
Have you seen like in the JFK movie where there's a person being filmed that has said that he was Lee Oswald at the Mexican...
No, sorry, the Russian consulate in Mexico City who pretended to be Lee Oswald and the CIA was filming him.
You have it in the JFK movie, among others.
You have these photos taken by the CIA.
And this guy, that...
That's Walter Tabinski.
This is the guy.
That's Walter Tabinski.
Yeah. It definitely looks like him in the bulletproof vest, man.
Yeah, but also they were really, really good at disguises.
He had blonded his hair.
Yeah, but this is the guy.
Why is the CAA saying that this is Lee Harvey Oswald?
Just to muddle it all up more?
Because they had, like, what, five different Lee Harvey Oswalds?
Why? Oh, why?
Oh, why?
Many of these things, the identity of Lee Oswald was used, you know, even when he was in Russia, the identity Lee Harvey Oswald was used in the U.S. as well.
So it's like they've got these floating identities where they use the identity of one person without the knowledge of that person.
And then they do other stuff.
Why they did this guy with...
I don't know.
I just know that this is the guy that went into the Russian embassy in Mexico City, pretended to be Oswald, left again.
Photos were taken by the CIA that had surveillance on the embassy.
This is the guy.
He's never been identified except by me through Hayley Orchick.
It's Walter Tabinsky, yeah.
So this is what he looks like, Walter Zubinski.
He's in his 80s now.
Have you ever spoken to him?
Oh, God, no.
No, no, no.
I fear these people.
My God, they're absolute roosters, killers.
And his cousin is Clyde Foreshore.
So you asked me, let me just stop sharing.
Am I back?
No. So is Clyde and Tabinsky who are the two serial killers.
Yeah. So it's these two, Clyde and Clyde Foreshore and his cousin Walter Tabinsky, both of them with, I think, Ukrainian background.
They have Ukrainian roots.
Anyway, so their whole life they have been used by CAA.
The US government and the Chinese government and the mob to carry out killings.
But at the same time, Clyde Forshaw has been living like a double life where he was not a bus driver, a streetcar driver in Toronto.
And while doing that, he was also pinpointing and murdering a lot of young girls.
Absolutely brutalized.
Just for fun?
Just to do?
Yeah. It's like Hayley on my website.
You can go in.
I think it's called The World's Most Important Witness or something like that.
I have all of these.
It's about 100 hours of...
Phone conversations with Hayley Otis, where she goes into extreme detail, extreme detail, the dates where they're buried, where this and that, so many, so many cold cases.
But when she went to the police, she was stonewalled over and over again.
Very, very odd if you cannot understand that there are forces within the police that are there to stop this type of...
Information getting out there.
And now I think she has been silenced as well.
She just disappeared.
And the reason on the same site or page on my website, there's also a three-hour program where Fetze and I went out live.
It was called the Opperman Report in the US.
And it was because that Hayley Otis was sitting in her apartment, terrified because Clyde was outside.
Her apartment wanted to get in.
Oh, shit.
Yeah. So I was freaking out.
We were like, what are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
Because she was just in panic mode.
And I said, the only thing we can do is go live and then expose them.
And say, if anything happens with Hayley, it's this guy and that guy.
And please, if these two guys have anything to say to their defense, step forward.
And so we welcome them into the show.
And so in that three-hour program, we pinpoint them.
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
And hopefully, hopefully stop them by exposing them.
Completely non-violent, but...
These type of individuals can only work in the shadows, in the dark.
Because once you see who they are, once they're out there, they're neutralized.
They have no value anymore.
So I really hope that we messed it up for them big time.
And so at that point, do you think the CIA steps in and says, you guys are a dangerous asset.
We're taking you out.
You've lived up the expectations we wanted you to.
It's time to go.
Is that what they do?
I mean, they did it to seal Team 6 or whatever.
The helicopter crash?
Yeah, but they do it all over.
They do it all the time.
I just don't want to say about these two guys because I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened to Hayley.
If anyone out there knows what's happened to Hayley Otis, I mean, I offered to go to Canada and be with her, you know, but she said no.
I mean, what could I have done?
I would have been terrified being there, you know, up against these...
I mean, we're talking like individuals with a demonic mindset.
Demonic. Like, when you hear how Clyde was bragging about what he did to these women and children, and oh my God.
It's like, I am...
So naive, so soft, so, you know, this is the thing for me to stand up against these forces.
It's shit scary, I tell you that.
And also because I have a family, and these, they have long-reaching tentacles, these organizations.
So, I tell you, the day after that interview was aired, I normally went out around six o'clock in the morning.
We lived in southern Spain at the time.
I used to take a walk, and it was always in the dark.
You know, I walked in the dark.
There was this golf course that was abandoned.
And there was this road that went through the golf course, but nobody was ever driving there.
And one thing you should never do is have like a schedule, repeating schedule.
But I had that.
I mean, stupid, stupid, but whatever.
So the day after, I was doing my walk in the dark and I went up to this, there was this hill, you know, and there was the stars was amazing.
And I started getting really paranoid because like...
Also, Fetzer was really scared.
He got death threats from Clyde Foreshore's son, who is, among other things, the guy who placed the bomb on the JFK Jr. plane, if he went down or not.
His son?
Yeah, Arthur.
Wow. If Haley is correct, then it was Clyde Forshaw's son.
That was the one that placed the bomb to the rear and the right-hand side of the aircraft.
But anyway, so when I was walking up there, I could see the silhouettes of some of these buildings that were still there.
And I just thought I saw snipers.
It was my mind.
My mind was just...
And then I was walking up that hill and suddenly a car comes around.
There are no cars there.
And this was like 6 a.m. in the dark and a car came around the corner really slowly.
I tell you, I jumped like...
I don't know how long I jumped, how far I jumped, but...
I think 20 feet.
I have no idea.
Just down behind the bushes.
And my heart rate was like, my heartbeat was 420.
I tell you, it was like...
I believe it.
And then the car slowly passed.
And maybe it was an old woman with dementia.
I don't know.
In my world, that was so good.
We know you've had a couple of death threats.
I've been shot as well.
You've been attacked.
You've almost been hit by cars.
You have reason to worry.
I know.
When I speak to people like Chip, I went to Norway after the shooting.
I'm a one-man band.
It's a very lonely trip, I tell you that.
I was going to...
To Norway, where I was also confronted by one of the people that carried out the mass shooting.
I was almost arrested there.
I mean, this is terrifying.
These are dangerous, dangerous people.
I did want to ask you about that.
When you almost got arrested, what happened there?
Anyway, I just want to say that when I said to Chip afterwards...
That I got really scared.
And he said, well, there's a reason.
You have a reason.
He advised me not to go there.
But I mean, I was more or less the only one looking into this.
You're being a journalist.
Sorry? I said you're being a journalist.
Like, what else are you going to do?
You're going to go there, get some information.
I'm not a journalist.
That's why I say ex-journalist, because there are no real journalists anymore.
Nobody's paying me.
Nobody is paying me.
The only thing I've done is lost, you know, in many ways, except when it comes to finding the truth.
So you asked me about Norway.
Okay, so I've been twice going to the island.
Twice, yeah.
And I went there.
Do you know, with posters, the whole thing saying, I'm going to talk about this.
And I have this presentation that I'm very proud of called When Terror Struck Norway.
When Terror Struck Norway.
It keeps getting deleted.
Everything I do get deleted, but it's coming up again.
People are uploading again and again.
If you send it to me, I can add it to mine as well.
You can find it on YouTube, I think.
When Terror Struck Norway.
But anyway, so...
I was very aware of that the ones that carried out the operation was part of what is called the Delta Team, the Delta Team in Norway.
They were the one that was right in the center of blowing up the government building, and then one hour later, out on the island, a bit of an hour later, out on the island, allegedly killing hundreds of, no, not hundreds, but many men.
It was 77. It kept changing.
It's kept changing.
This is the weird thing.
First it was 86, then it was 69, then it was 77. I mean, how can you, well, how can you just calculate on dead bodies?
Well, that one is not moving.
It came back alive.
Yeah, there you go.
From 86 down to 69, somebody has a problem with their calculator, you know.
No breathing there, no head there.
There shouldn't be sort of a big doubt.
That one is a dead one.
It's not breathing.
That one is not breathing either.
There's no head, whatever.
That's two.
And onwards, you couldn't normally, if it's a real event, you have a specific number of people dead and then wounded.
And then sometimes the wounded dies.
So the number should go up, never down.
Never down.
So anyway, so I went up there.
I mean, it was not a secret that I was coming there.
And I was scared when I came to the airport.
Airports are my least favorite places.
People in uniform, crossing borders, me not like.
And so anyway, I went there and then I'm...
I wanted to go to the island.
And there were this young couple that offered to drive me there.
It's about an hour's drive out of this beautiful island.
And then I had arranged for a meeting with a guy called Hans Gorder, who is one of the few journalists or citizen journalists who have really dug into this.
I've learned a lot from him.
Unfortunately, he got murdered a year ago.
I was writing his name down, Luca.
Yeah, it's really sad.
I really liked him.
But anyway, so we went out, we went to this island, and it's only like, how much is it?
Like, it's not even a thousand feet from the mainland to the island where the mass shooting took place.
And there's this ferry that goes across like that, which is a military vessel, actually, that has been transformed into...
A small little ferry called MS Toolbjorn.
And so we went.
This was the day before the anniversary of the whole thing.
So the circumstances were identical.
The weather, the temperature, the time of day, really emotional for me to be there.
And so anyway, we were wondering if we could take the ferry, but the ferry was just lying there.
It wasn't moving.
There was no one there.
And so we went, there was this local camping where part of the operation was carried out from.
That's where many of the survivors was taken or swam to.
And so at that place, there was this sign saying that they rented, that you could rent like a motorboat or a sailing boat or a kayak, you know, canoe.
So we asked them.
We went there and we said, what about the ferry?
Is it leaving?
Is it going there?
And they said no.
And so we said, well, can we rent a motorboat?
Even though the signs were there, they said no.
Please remember that this camping site was part of what happened that day.
So God knows who is controlling that.
Is it just a normal camping site?
Is it part of whatever?
Because is it also part of controlling who gets to the island or not?
Because that would be the point.
So anyway, we could not rent a boat.
Okay. So we said, well, can we rent a sailboat?
No. Well, can we rent a canoe?
Yes. Okay.
So I started filling in the paper with my name for renting the canoe.
Okay. And while I was doing that, this other guy, my friend Hans Gorder, he went into the kitchen and without them knowing it, he was a guy that he didn't understand.
He was an incredible guy.
He was fearless because I don't know if he understood the dangers, but he just walked straight into stuff like that.
So he walked into the kitchen and asked the staff about the ferry.
And they said, yes, the ferry leaves on a regular basis.
So he comes out and says, no.
They had just said no, that the ferry is not working at the moment.
And he came out and said, well, it is.
So let's go there.
So after having filled in the paper for the canoe, I said, please keep it like that.
We're just going to check if the ferry is leaving.
This is way out in the countryside.
Beautiful, beautiful area, you know, but no people, no nothing.
Small little roads going like that.
So I said, we'll go and see the ferry if the ferry is there.
If not, we'll come back and we rent the canoe and we'll just go across.
And so they said yes.
I think that's where they got my name.
I don't know, but that's the logical thing.
So we went back to the ferry.
There was absolutely no one going on, nothing going on, except there was this tourist-type boat.
You see them sometimes in big cities, really flat boats that can go under bridges and stuff like that.
Beautiful boat.
We saw that there was this boat next to the ferry.
And there were people inside it.
They were just like, I don't know who they were.
But we saw that there was some movement inside.
And we were standing there waiting.
It was the four of us, this young couple, Hans Gorder, which was a hardcore journalist, and myself, just standing there waiting for, please, can someone come and...
Get the ferry going, or when, or where, or, you know, so we're just standing there for like 20 minutes, and suddenly, out of this very low boat, came a guy in a, what do you call it, like a frogman suit, like a diving suit,
with a headset on.
I mean...
What the hell?
He got out and got into one of these, like, rubber boat things with two engines, a really fast one.
Jumped into that.
I mean, he ran and jumped into that one and speeded across to the island, which was perfect because I filmed it to time how long would it have taken if somebody really wanted to get out to the island and help these people while the shooting was,
because it took more than one.
One hour for them to get out there.
So I timed it.
I have it on film and it takes exactly one minute to go to the island.
So I timed it.
It was perfect for me.
I filmed it, timed it.
Now I know.
Anyway, so...
It turned around, that rubber boat turned around, and there was two police officers on the island.
I did not know that there was police out there.
Oh man, what the hell?
Armed police officers that jumped into the boat, and they came full speed on back towards us.
And I said to my friend, here we go, here we go.
I just felt, you know, that we are the reason.
So this rubber boat came and just got up to the shore.
These two police officers, one male, one female, jumped off and approached us, half running, approached us.
We were just standing there.
There was no one there at all.
There was just an air of urgency on their part.
And both of them very militant.
You know, you have police officers and then you have well-built, like...
Special type of tea, you know, the whole shebang.
Right. The way they move, the balance of the body, you know, the body size, very muscular.
Aggressive? Not aggressive, very polite.
Okay. So they approached us and it was really funny because Hans, my friend, the whole day he was walking around with a bowl with pasta salad.
When I met him, he was this guy, unshaven, with a horrible cap on, and he had this pasta bowl with the plastic still on it.
It was like a big glass bowl like that, and a big spoon, but like a serving spoon, you know, like that, that he had in the passenger seat in the car.
That was when we met the first time.
And he just brought that with him, and he was just eating away.
The whole time.
So he was standing there shoveling this thing in.
And so we were approached by these two police officers and very polite.
They said, hello, how are you doing?
Blah, blah, blah.
Who are you?
And I just felt, I'm not...
I go into like a teenage...
Right, right, right.
Because that is the sign of a police state, when the police can just get you to identify you for no reason.
Yeah. So I just felt, I had my passport in my rear pocket, on my pants.
I just felt, I am so not going to show it to you.
And so...
The guy took Hans by the arm because Hans was really arrogant towards them, not seeing their superiority.
He was completely shuffling away this pasta salad and saying, who are you?
Who are you to ask us?
Are we suspected of anything?
Have we done anything wrong?
And this police officer just grabbed him by the arm and took him to the side with his radio as well.
No, that's not true.
First they said the identification, so the other ones gave it.
And this poor young couple that just had been kind enough to drive us, they were shaking.
I mean, the woman, the girl almost started crying.
It was intense, you know.
It was really unpleasant, even though nothing really happened.
But it was just scary.
They were very, very dominant.
And so the young guy also was all pale and stuff.
And I just felt, this is not fair.
You know, that they show their identity.
I don't because I'm a stubborn, like, not grown-up teenager just saying, fuck this.
And then I put them in.
So instead of pulling up my passport, I had like an insurance card with my name on it.
So I gave it to them.
Took the identity things and then grabbed my friend by the arm and led him off like 50, 100 meters.
And then they were standing talking.
And this young police officer, the woman, she was just as hard, I tell you that.
Really starting to ask questions.
I didn't say a word.
I did not answer any questions.
I did not say anything.
And this young couple was really being given boom, boom.
Anyway, so after a few minutes, the police officer comes back, stands right in front of me, says, Ole Damagard, a decision has been taken for you.
No, he said, Danish and Norwegian police have nothing on you, but the legal authorities of this area has taken the decision that you have to leave.
Now, if you decide to stay, you will be arrested.
And I was like, how on earth?
We're in Norway.
How does he know what Danish police has on me?
It's a different country.
What is going on?
Even though I have a Danish passport.
And so he said, if you decide not to leave, You will be arrested and escorted.
Okay. So I didn't say a word, but my pulse was like, I don't like this situation at all.
But anyway, so my friend still eating the pasta salad, completely untouched.
I mean, the rest of us was really like tense.
He was like, he couldn't give a shit.
And he was just eating away.
He said, okay, so now you know who we are.
Who are you?
And first of all, he said, do you mind if I take a selfie?
And went up to this police officer, the male one, and was going to do like that.
And this guy just pushed him away.
He really got triggered by, can you not see, even though I'm secret, but my authority, that type of thing.
So he pushed him away.
And Hans said, but now you know who we are, who are you?
And then he said, I think being triggered, his ego was being triggered.
He said, no, I cannot give you my real name.
The only thing I can give you is my serial number, which is Delta 33. Delta 033.
That's the Delta group.
That's the Delta group.
That's not a police officer.
That's the Delta group.
Anyway, so Delta 031 or 33. And at that time, since I knew that it was the Delta team that had carried out the shootings, real or not, it was not under spending break.
They were the ones that arrested him.
They were the ones that did all of the key people in this operation was belonging to the Delta team, which is under the U.S. military.
And wasn't Anders dressed as a Delta team?
He was dressed in a police uniform first.
And then there's four different Anders Beeren Breivik, so it's very, very hard to...
Oh, man.
Yeah. So anyway, so I suddenly understood, and it turned out that he was the guy that officially put the handcuffs on Anders Beeren Breivik when he was arrested.
No way.
The police officer's name, I managed to identify him, is Hans Hamburg.
I recognized him from the trial, so I managed to find his name and all of the details around him.
Well, it goes on and on because there was a U.S. I was getting myself into some deep waters there.
And there was another guy who was working for Special Forces, the US Special Forces, who had offered me, he was also a ghostwriter with multiple bestsellers on the New York Times bestseller list, who had offered to help me with my books because my books was being censored.
Anyway, so I...
Came back from Norway, and we were talking about the publishing of this whole thing, and I said, I'm sorry, I haven't signed any papers yet because I just came back from Norway.
Please keep in mind, he was in South Africa working for the US Special Forces in Miami, retired but still doing.
He had done more than 200 behind enemy line rescue operations officially.
This is the Hans Homburg?
No, no, this is another guy.
Okay. His name is William Dean Gardner.
Anyway, so he had nothing to do with Norway.
I'm just saying I came back to Spain and I said, I'm very sorry I haven't been in touch regarding this book publishing type of thing that we were going to.
The reason for that is because I got delayed because I almost got arrested at Ute.
And so this guy, US Special Forces in South Africa, he says, How do you know?
Because I said, I almost got arrested by a member of the Delta team.
How do you know, he says.
I said, because he told me so.
And he then wrote back and said, no one from a Delta team would ever expose their identity to someone like yourself.
And I said, well, he did.
And it was Delta 031.
And then he wrote back to me.
From South Africa, nothing with Norway as far as I knew, said Delta 031 wasn't even a service number and had nothing.
Delta 031 wasn't even a blah, blah, blah number in this operation.
And then he said, he delivered very, very odd.
He said, Members of this team have special abilities to kill people and some are in the light and some are in the dark.
I can find it and quote exactly.
And I was like...
That really sent the chills down my back because we were friends, I thought.
And suddenly I was talking to someone in the US Special Forces in South Africa, Johannesburg, I think he was, who knew about what numbers were being used by the Delta teams in Norway years before.
I was like, fuck me.
Who are you to know anything about that?
Right. And why do you want to help me publish my books?
So I contacted Chip Tatum, who we mentioned before, and I said, please, I read his email, the guy in South Africa,
I read his emails to Chip Tatum and said, what is that?
Because it was so weird, the language, you know, who was working in the dark and who was working in the ultralight or something like that.
And he said, for one thing, that is a death threat.
And he said, but for someone like that, to make it that open to you, that is very unprofessional.
So he said, most probably, this is a used to be.
You have wannabes, you have active agents, and then you have used to be people that were in this power situation, you know, they could do whatever, and then they retired, but they still have their ego, have this, you know, they're missing the pump,
the adrenaline, the whole thing, I am someone, you know.
And so he said, that is very unprofessional.
And the way he described is that he said that...
What this guy in South Africa was talking about was like, I should shut up and be aware that there are teams in whatever that level was.
And then there were other teams.
And Chip described it to me that there are certain team of assassins that they can activate.
They're all over the world through the CIA or one of these other alphabetic organizations can activate them.
And, you know, give them a task to terminate this, to terminate that, to terminate.
But then they're in the alt, whatever that was, the second level, the light, light, or the ultralight, whatever.
He said these are type of operatives that no one knows who they are.
And once the order is given, they cannot be called back.
It's, you know, like...
I've spoken to Chip and other people who used to be in this world, and they say that the Bourne Identity movies are the closest to real action.
Take away the Hollywood fighting, but the setup of how these things work, these assets that can be activated, not even the CIA know who they are.
It's that secret.
And once the order is given, it cannot be called back.
It cannot be...
They will go on until mission accomplished.
And so he said, so I just felt freaked me out.
I was just about to sign over the rights of my book to this guy.
Oh, no.
Who, according to Chip, had sneaked in and become my controller.
Yeah. Without me knowing it.
Because I thought we were friends.
And we were talking about all of these types of things, you know, and from time to time, how are you doing?
What are you looking into?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. He was just getting intel from you.
Yeah. No, but also, it was like, it was the very first show on Project Camelot.
That was how I met him.
We were sort of like a panel.
James Fetzer was there, actually.
Kev Baker, you had J.J., whatever his name is, Moon Landing Filmmaker, and then this guy and myself.
And after, there was the first big one, Project Camelot, that I was part of.
So after, I was talking about Force Flags, and I was very good at it, even at that time.
After that, this guy contacted me, said I was very impressed by blah, blah, blah.
We became friends.
I think he saw here's a possible future problem.
At this point, not a problem.
If this guy continues to be a boil in the butt, we need to be close to him.
We need to be able to.
So if he was assigned or whatever, but so we became like this.
I thought we were friends.
I believe he was there as a controller.
To remote controller, more or less, to just make sure that I didn't step out of...
Yeah, basically directing you in ways.
Just making, you know, like, should it go too far?
And I think when I started getting up there in the spotlight, my books started getting credibility in a different way.
And that was why he offered to publish them, because then he was in control.
And could shut them down.
Yeah. Oh, scary, scary.
There's been a handful of situations where people I thought were my friends, you know, turn out to be...
I have one that it wasn't even...
He was a phantom identity.
We've had him in our house as a friend.
He's mingled, taking care of my daughter.
And then it turns out not even a real identity.
I mean...
Holy crap.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Scary, scary, scary.
That is dangerous.
That is crazy.
I can't even imagine living in the world you live in because you know so many of these people and you know how they operate.
And you know they're still looking at you.
They're still looking at you.
They're looking at anybody who's in your shoes.
And I'm assuming at some point they're going to start looking at me.
But whatever.
But man, that is just...
That's crazy, man.
That is just crazy.
There's very few people in the world who have done, who've been as geeky in this area as I have, who's been so determined for, I don't even know why I've been in it, but it's like 43 years of extreme focus.
I've never, David Icke, myself, I don't know many others that have been going on for such a long time and have...
And the ones either come and they go, they're there for a year or two, and then they disappear.
Or if they continue, they're taken out.
And so I've had this question many times, how come you live?
If what you're saying is true, how come you're still alive?
I had no idea.
I'm just grateful.
I mean, I like this place, so I'm grateful to be here.
But people who can see angels on that level say that I have a whole army behind me.
I don't know.
If so, I'm super grateful to you guys, wherever you are.
I'm here.
I'm behind you.
You are indeed.
And in front of you.
I'm all around.
Yeah. So...
I was going to ask you.
Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.
What we were just talking about.
So people like Alex Jones, right?
Gets so high, gets so popular, they try to destroy him with the whole Sandy Hook, billion dollar, whatever, suit.
I believe, like, I used to love that guy growing up.
Like, he's the one that really got me when I was, like, 11 years old.
And David Icke, by the way, too.
To get me into this world of conspiracy and what the hell is really happening.
And then over time, I'm like, Alex Jones, like, got a lot of...
A lot of negativity talk about him.
He seems like controlled opposition at this point.
And I firmly believe he is.
Especially when he teams up with Musk.
And yeah, there's a big operation going there.
In my opinion.
What's your opinion on Alex Jones?
I don't badmouth people, but I trust him about 0%.
Yeah. I'm not trying to badmouth him either, but I just don't trust him.
I used to.
No, but it's like, you know, in this setup of psychological warfare against humanity, they try to create both sides.
So they have a dark agenda.
But against the dark agenda, there will be heroes that fight the dark agenda.
And if they don't create them themselves, there will be real heroes.
Real alpha individuals that stand up.
So what they're trying to do is create heroes that will do it for you so that you can sit back in the sofa, relax, have another slice of pizza and say, this guy over there, she will take care of it.
She will do it for us or he will do it.
So these created heroes I find dangerous.
I also have, there's like a...
A thing that really makes my go off, and that is when these individuals are given space in mainstream media, because I am surrounded by incredible individuals,
absolutely mind-blowingly beautiful, brave individuals with information that could help humanity on so many levels.
Are they given like...
Any airspace whatsoever, except to be destroyed, except to be set up as an ambush of destruction.
No, no, no, and no.
And then you have individuals that just come, woof, and even if they burp, it makes headlines in the mainstream media.
So you have to ask yourself, what makes them different from us?
How come?
Because I've been offered, I tell you, ITV has been in contact with BBC, other heavyweights, SVT in Sweden, to interview me.
And I'm like, that is so not going to happen.
Because I've seen it.
You have Jim Fetzer, we mentioned before.
BBC flew.
I think there was a five-member team.
From the UK to Duluth, Idaho or wherever he lives to make an eight-hour film interview.
They filmed, if I remember right, Jim told me, eight hours.
I said, you're being set up.
You're being set up.
Please be aware.
No, no.
His ego said, whoa, BBC is going to interview me.
They did it.
Yeah. Great team that came there.
Great interview, everything.
They cut it down.
They dropped it off.
Not they.
I'm sure it's another team that cut it up.
And I think he got like three minutes in total where he looked like an absolute nutcase.
They love doing that.
It's the same over and over.
So you have to ask yourself, you've got Snowden.
He burps, they write about it.
They can't find him.
They want to assassinate him, but journalists can find him.
Really, really anything.
This information, how comes he keeps having new information?
He keeps having new...
That is incredible, you know?
So, do I trust Edward Snowden?
The information he has let out, yes, to a large extent, for sure.
That's how you create heroes.
It has to be valid information, at least to 100% to start with.
Then, after a while, when the millions of people are starting to follow you, not questioning, they've checked you out, everything you say is true.
So, after a while, people, the guard goes down, and then you start delivering 90% true.
Or you start avoiding areas, Alex Jones.
Or you start like this, you know, and slowly, slowly, slowly.
So who have we got on the main stage where people are just like the heroes?
Alex Jones.
Bill Hicks, sorry.
Elon Musk.
Alex Jones.
Yeah, but Elon Musk is a different type of individual.
Yeah, he's different.
He's different.
But you got Alex Jones.
Incredible information.
I've spoken to Alex.
But like over the years.
A hundred percent.
He came from out of nowhere around the time of Waco when Bill Hicks died.
Same producer, same friend, same teeth, same everything.
The voice that sounds like this.
I can also speak like this.
Anyway, he came from nowhere.
Alex, was that you?
He came from nowhere.
Bill Hicks suddenly died in a wheelchair, cancer.
Thank you so much.
And out of that, boom, suddenly Alex Jones.
With the same setup, with the same everything.
And I mean, we've had forensic evidence or experts looking at his teeth and the setup and all, you know, facial recognition, except for these like this now.
It's the same individual.
It's the same individual.
So, incredible information, a hero, but then...
Okay, so Alex Jones, I trust, absolute zero.
The whole thing with $1 billion lawsuit for saying things like Sandhu, what they're doing is they're using their own asset to scare the living bejesus out of people like myself, because if they can get to Alex Jones and $1 billion for just pointing,
what will that do to me?
So they're using him.
Fear, fear, fear.
It's complete, if you ask me, complete setup.
Stage the whole shebang.
You got Edward Snowden.
Incredible information.
Do I trust him?
Zero. Julian Assange.
Then we have Julian Assange that everybody loves.
And I mean, incredible person.
Where did he come from?
And once you start looking into it, where he was like into, he was in a sect when he was a child in Australia.
Yep. Yep.
That was completely CIA-based, really bizarre.
The founder, the woman, died in a Freemasonic hospital, and then he disappears, and then suddenly he appears again, now the founder of WikiLeaks, which is, in the beginning, unbelievable information.
Yeah, it was great.
Blown away.
Yeah. That is amazing.
That is amazing.
That's how we learned into it.
Please make up your own mind.
This is my personal point of view.
I truly believed in him for a long time until I read a book called The Deconstruction of WikiLeaks.
Oh my God, when you see the board members, when you see the funding, the founders, it's military intelligence from all over the world.
It's being dismantled.
I think a lot of the Clinton emails have been, like, wiped out.
They've been deleting stuff.
But it's like what they do is they throw us a bone, which is very valid.
They throw us a bone.
They throw us a bone.
They very much avoid certain areas.
And sometimes because of they need to destroy someone or whatever, they use it.
That one, WikiLeaks, loved it.
I'm completely...
I'm questioning it now, to say the least.
And then you have the whole strange thing with these rape cases.
In Sweden, I was born in Denmark, grew up in Sweden.
Sweden is central in so many of these operations.
It's unbelievable on a global scale, hiding behind neutrality.
There's especially one family in Sweden called Wallenberg.
I tell you, nobody knows about them.
Their motto is ruling without visibility.
They are more powerful than the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.
I tell you that.
Holy crap.
What is the name?
Wallenberg. I know.
I know.
Now more and more people are looking into it.
It's sort of like mind.
It's unbelievable.
More powerful than the Rothschilds?
If I'm correct.
If I'm correct.
They're also the owners of Ericsson and Investor and these companies that when you look at it, when you really look into the more than 6,000 patents of the structure of the internet, it's theirs.
The basic structure and encryption as well, the basic structure is owned by them.
That's insane.
I know.
So you got like...
All of the intelligence agencies around the world, their surveillance is built on digital systems, correct?
Connected to the internet.
But the infrastructure, who controls the infrastructure?
Who are the ones that people are paying?
All the servers that are all over the world that trade the information?
Connects through the wiring.
A lot of the wiring is going on through cables, on the C's and on the stack.
The whole structure, the whole setup, the patents are owned and controlled by one family that nobody knows about, whose motto is ruling without visibility.
When you look into that family, it will blow your mind.
Even Donald Trump.
It's on a scale and I cannot prove this, but I tell you, when you look at companies like BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, I can almost guarantee you that behind these fronts...
You know, these shiny windows and whatever.
You've got this family right in the center and the technology right in the center of this whole thing.
They're there in the backgrounds when it comes to elections, when it comes to all of these things through their companies, completely invisible.
So it's like that one, that one, that one.
Yes, because through all my research, I'm always trying to find, because you have to follow the paper trail.
And it always comes to the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers or the Bilderbergs.
But there's always someone above that.
And it's the Wallenbergs?
That is in my...
I can only say according to...
I put my name on the line and I put all of what I stand for on that name.
Now, do you think that they are at the top or is there someone above them?
You have to understand, first of all, they say the top of the pyramid.
What they don't tell you is that the pyramid is upside down.
They're the lowest of the low of the low of human quality, if it's even human.
It's like, it's so, human quality is not, it doesn't exist where they work.
It's so dark.
It's so demonic and horrible.
So I don't want it.
They call themselves the elite.
I've got words that would suit them a lot better and wouldn't be so flattering.
I think so.
So you have to be aware it's controlled from below.
And the big boss, I simplify stuff because I get confused.
You know, you get to the Club of Rome, the Bilderberg Group, the Triathlon Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Jesuits, the Committee of 300.
Where does it stop?
So many.
Because there are always levels.
But I think at the end, it comes to that there's this force, whatever that is, where the boss is somebody who eats with a fork and likes really hot climate, you know, and is sometimes red, you know.
And has horns.
The pitchfork?
The pitchfork.
So it's like they have a mindset that is controlled by that force.
Most of us, people like you and me, are striving that way.
They are striving that way.
And it's the plus and minus good, evil, this force that is in this matrix universe, whatever we're living in.
And so it's the mindset, it's the corrupt mindset that lets this force enter into them and being used for evil.
So I recently interviewed Robert Sullivan IV, and he's really into numerology and occult symbolism and that sort of thing, and how numbers are always in these world events.
And he was talking about this force, because I was asking him, well, do you think, like, a lot of these numbers are, like, human intervention?
Like, 77 and 47 and 74, like, these certain numbers are always in these events.
And he's like, some of it might be human intervention, but I believe it's a force that we can't even understand that is doing this.
So I'm like, that makes total sense.
Because these guys in power, they're all like Malachianisms, you know, into Malachianism, Satanism, child sacrifice, obviously, you know, all of that.
And that's nothing but the worst negativity you could ever inflict.
And these are the people in power.
It's the people we have allowed.
To get into power, because we've been too much upper our own body, our own desires, our own greed.
So we haven't seen what's going on.
And we've been too lazy to do something about it.
And now they moved into a power position where it's like very, it's a tricky one to get to, but they are making it simple for us because they...
We concentrated the power to fewer and fewer and fewer and fewer over the generations.
So now it doesn't even...
I mean, if you look into chemtrails or vaccines or big pharma or big oil or assassinations, you name it, you will come to the same center.
It's like an octopus with tentacles everywhere trying to control it.
But the thing is, they're getting very sloppy, which is...
I think that is a sign of possible panic.
I think it's a lot of the younger generations.
They aren't the same as the older generations who did it perfectly.
And now these younger generations who are now putting their feet in those shoes, they don't know how to do it.
They're kind of all over the place.
I don't know what it is, but it's also becoming more and more and more obvious with the demonic part of it.
It's like when you see mass shootings and stuff like that, it's like once you start seeing the signs, oh my God, it's charged with all of the satanic, I mean, everything from Super Bowl entertainment to music videos to in movies to in sports.
Kids television, kids clothes.
It's everywhere.
That's a huge movement, man.
Yep. Kuhn, it's time for me to say thank you and over and out.
I appreciate you being here.
I do, I do.
I really wanted to get into some direct energy weapons, but I know we're out of time.
Could I have you back?
Another episode, we can specifically talk about direct energy weapons.
We can do that.
And whatever else we'll get into.
I'm sure we'll get into a lot of things.
Yep. All right.
Well, thank you, Oli.
Appreciate your time.
Oli, let's pitch where we can find you.
Ole's website is lightonconspiracies.com.
What other websites do you have?
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So you can find me there.
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As far as I can, I've vetted every single thing that is there.
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