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Out of the air is adequate to breathe, and our phone is adequate to breathe.
We just watch our TVs while some local newscasts make no fit today.
We ask if we're home as 1065 on price.
I think that's the way it's supposed to be.
We don't think the bad, worse than bad.
It's like everything, everywhere, it's going crazy, crazy.
We don't know anymore.
We see the times we're exploring the world.
The internet's getting smaller.
Oh, we say please, please, please, please.
I don't believe you.
Let me open the cell, please.
Start my TV, my steam, milk, and radio.
I don't say anything.
It doesn't even go out.
Well, I'm not going to be open.
I want you to get mad, mad, mad.
I want you to protest.
I don't want you to ride.
I want you to ride to your congressman.
But I want you to ride to your congressman.
I want you to go out, driving.
You've got to get mad.
We're going off here, too.
So shitty.
That's pretty wicked, dude.
It sounds like Battlezone out there.
Yeah, are you in Israel?
They're not going off here yet, but I'm sure they will be soon.
I'm here interviewing Hamas.
You're in Gaza right now.
Insider's View.
How did you get in there, man?
Oh, yeah, you know, got to know some people.
Yeah, getting in there is as easy as the getting out.
That's the tough part, dude.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Paraminatica Podcast.
We are coming to you live on the day before New Year's.
As always, I am Scott, and with me is the delicious but seldom digestible coop.
Seldomly digestible.
A little bit of that nutritional fiber for you.
A little Metamucil.
Today we have a guest joining us on the Paranautica Podcast.
That is Dustin.
Dustin, say hello.
Hello, guys.
Thanks for having me.
Absolutely. Well, thanks for being here, man.
The man of the hour.
The man of power.
Dustin. How are you doing, man?
Good, man.
How about you guys?
Oh, we're doing fantastic.
We're doing fantastic.
Yeah, I'm doing all right.
Keeping it real.
Getting ready to rein in a new one.
A whole new batch of new ones.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I'm excited about this.
This is my first podcast.
It's your first podcast.
That's right, dude.
Well, thanks for being here for it.
I feel like...
We are taking your virginity!
That's not what I was going to say.
We've got your V-card, Dustin.
You've got to give it up to somebody, right?
I would say P-card, but that sounds even worse for some reason.
Definitely not going to say that.
But yeah, thanks for spending it here, dude.
What are you doing, man?
It's New Year's Eve.
And you're here with us.
What's going on, man?
Yeah, I'm kind of a loser, man.
Don't let that hurt too much.
My bad, guys.
Yeah, I'm kind of a homebody, man.
I'm off for the season from work or whatever, so just kind of hanging out and got asked to do this, so I figured I wasn't doing anything else.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll kill that though, dude.
Just so the listeners know, it is New Year's Eve, so we're going to hear a lot of explosions and things going on.
We're not in Gaza.
We're not in Palestine.
We're not anywhere over there in the Middle East in a war zone.
It's actually Canada.
It's starting off in Canada.
War zone in Canada.
It's happening.
But no, Dustin is here because we wanted to discuss conspiracies, maybe some current events and random things.
This is episode...
50, by the way, just so everyone knows.
So we decided we'd do something different and just, I don't know, discuss some shit.
A little bit of a roundtable discussion on some pertinent events, maybe a couple things that people have by chance forgotten about, and maybe a couple things that people are living right now.
All good discussion.
All good topics.
So Dustin, I just want to ask you, man, what got you into conspiracy theories?
Back in high school, I used to spend a lot of time in ISS, or in-school suspension.
And so I would just kind of get all my work done by lunchtime, and then I would just kind of hang out on the internet.
And I really just kind of drifted across it, mainly with the JFK assassination, which was probably the big one that pulled me in.
Typically the starter, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Oh, yeah.
That's more of a new one, yeah.
I find them all fascinating because it's a different way of looking at things and just to see what's all out there.
Well, and largely, it's a good reminder to the public that we don't always get the full story.
Oh, absolutely.
And so, like, we're left to make our minds up on partial information or information from a certain source, and a lot of times that information is curated a certain way, either to further some kind of political agenda or to lessen the damage from another political agenda.
That sucks, dude.
I mean, like, we're not the only three sitting here thinking, wow, that is shitty that we can't get the full story.
Like, we're not guaranteed.
The full story every time something major happens.
And, you know, that's why these conspiracy theories get started.
Because we want to know what really happened.
We're curious people.
We live here.
It affects us.
It's all about, really, just the truth at the end of the day.
Exactly. We want to know what really happened about anything.
Yeah, I mean, we're lied to every step of the way.
I mean, we never get the full story.
They give us little bits and pieces for us to bite on and then get lost in all sorts of different viewpoints, perspectives, because they don't just give out one narrative.
They give out multiple narratives, like pretty much any narrative that could be imagined.
They pretty much plant that into the media.
And then everybody starts talking about this and that.
Well, then that can't be true because I heard this over here on NBC.
Well, that can't be true because I heard this on CBS.
Well, that can't be true because I heard this on ABC.
You know, every one of these news channels basically putting out different perspectives to get people thinking.
Well, and largely to influence just public sentiment in general.
Yeah. Right.
If you want to control...
It's not people reading, you know, like going outside and looking around and asking questions.
It's what we see on TV because it's easy to grab and it's what we read in front of us because it's always there.
So, you know?
You're trying to pick your own truth that you want to believe in.
Yeah, pretty much.
Pretty much.
I only read the New York Times.
Well, it's right there.
You're fucked.
You're getting all your information in the New York Times.
Or it's like, I only watch CNN.
Fuck the right.
Or fuck the left.
I only watch Fox.
It's like, man.
Okay, you're hearing one perspective, and that's the only perspective you're going to buy into.
So many people in my family are like, if it's from CNN or MSNBC, don't believe it.
You've got to check out Fox.
And it's like, well, I'm just on your side.
Right, yeah, exactly.
We're on CNN.
Yeah, instead of checking it, I'd rather just check it all out and then try to filter it to what I, you know, try to boil it down to what I think.
Yeah, well, and to your point that you get to make up your own truth, like what better way to keep people from asking questions when they don't feel the need to ask because what they're reading kind of fits with their narrative that they've already created.
And ladies and gentlemen, like the big they that we're talking about is the people that are running the world and the United States government, you know, specifically.
And it's not like...
This doesn't happen in other countries.
They're just overt about it.
It's above the table instead of under the table like it is here.
It's becoming more above the table as the freedom of information is becoming easier for normal citizens like us to swap and share more of these things.
It'll sort of bubble to the surface.
That's where our frustrations lie right now.
We can't cover the whole world scope that's too big for what we're trying to do here, but we can talk about what's affecting us here in this country today.
Yeah, that's a huge problem, too, with people in America.
We're so isolated here that we don't really know what's going on in other countries, and we hear the government telling us what's going on in other countries.
But, like, you talk to people.
I've traveled quite a bit.
I've spoken to locals in other countries, and I've heard them say completely opposite things than what the government is saying, you know?
Yeah, absolutely.
It doesn't take long before you rub shoulders with someone that's not from around here, and they're like, well, A, this is how we see you, and B, this is what's actually happening.
And you're like, oh!
You need to take a step back.
I've heard so many people just say, you Americans are fucking retarded.
You don't know anything that's going on in the world.
I'm a huge fan of saying that, because it's like people are just in this little comfort bubble of theirs, and either they don't want to pursue the truth, Because it's frightening to change that world perspective of theirs.
Because it takes them out of that comfort zone.
And so if they just read the news, it's like they're already so used to that.
They're already so propagandized.
Is that a word?
They're already so propagandized that it's like brushing your teeth with CNN or something.
Eating Fox News Pop Tarts.
Something you have to do.
Daily. That you don't even really realize, but you do it out of necessity and just have it.
Yeah. No, that's good.
That's a good way to put that.
I don't know, man.
Scott, where did you start with conspiracies?
I think I got a little bit tired, as most people do in high school, of just being told exactly what's going on without asking any questions.
And I remember thinking, well, that's your opinion.
And then there were times, too, when the people that are, quote-unquote, in charge of your learning, they say something and then you find out that something else is true.
So then you start realizing that the people who are giving you the information don't know everything.
And you're like, okay, well, who does know everything?
And then you start going to multiple sources, and it wasn't just one conspiracy theory.
I didn't go down any kind of rabbit hole.
I've just learned over the years and just over my life experience living in different places that one group over here is saying one thing, and another group over here is saying another thing, and there's a truth in the middle.
And then that applies just widely in general across all groups, all places, especially in our country.
And then you start to follow the money.
So I started to get wise to the money, you know, probably about 10 years ago or so, but really in the last five years.
And once you start following who stands to gain from what narrative and you can see who's behind it, that's when the conspiracies start to get really deep because you realize all of this is about the money.
It's all about who's profiting, who's staying in power.
And you can't get the money without power.
And you can't have power without the money, at least in this country.
And in the world in general, I would say.
I would posit, but we're just...
Absolutely. Trends like buying,
spending, staying inside, not leaving.
I mean, just look at COVID.
Let me just give us an example that was recent.
They managed to get a huge percentage of the nation staying home.
In their homes.
Pretty much like 90%.
That's impressive, dude.
That was a worldwide martial law test.
And it didn't take long.
It was a test to see.
It was a test to see how easy we will follow their fucking orders.
And boy, were we fucking stupid.
We're getting some kicks in the pants right about now.
You know what's really shitty about it is even Fauci, they're all saying there's going to be a bigger one very soon.
I think a lot of it, you know, they run out of fear.
And so, you know, if you find out what scares people, it's the easiest way to control them.
I agree.
You're going to get sick!
You're not going to be thinking rationally because fear takes over.
So you get smart people...
Yeah, you get smart people doing dumb things because you're scared.
Yeah, you don't have...
There are a lot of smart people...
I don't mean stupid people.
Obviously, everyone's just been programmed, right?
I mean, there are stupid people.
But a lot of people...
It's like a horde mentality.
Is that what you call it?
A horde mentality?
Mob mentality, yeah.
Even though you are against it, but everybody else is doing it, and you're like, well, fuck, I don't want to be the outsider.
I better fucking get in there.
Otherwise, you are shunned.
Unfortunately, there's limitations.
Still, speaking of COVID, some people couldn't go to work unless they were vaccinated.
Some people could not continue to earn a living unless they jived with what the protocol You don't have a choice.
Yeah, you could starve or you could stop making money and quit supporting your family, but that's not really an option.
So when it comes to survival or playing along, that's a tough choice for people.
The thing about how they did the...
You have to get a vaccine if you want to go to work.
Everything they rolled out was completely illegal.
They violated every right they could possibly violate.
And we just sat back and were like, well, I guess it's okay.
It's like when 9-11 happened, George Bush signed in the Patriot Act, which allowed them to spy on anybody in the United States without...
For any reason.
And even before 9-11, they were already doing that, but then they just made it like...
Now everybody knows.
Yeah. It's official.
And it's scary too, man.
Obama when he was in presidency.
What do you guys think about Obama?
I'm not a fan of any politicians.
Scott? Yeah, that's a good sentiment.
I would definitely argue that from what I've seen over the last few people in stints of high places in the government, it hasn't been very impressive.
And what they've been able to do has been extremely limited both because of their own goals that they're trying to
Push forward.
And also because of all the strings in the background that we can't see.
And so they leave and you're like, well, everything's more or less the same, if not a little bit worse.
Thing changes.
Which sucks.
The point about Obama, everybody was touting him off as being the first black president.
Okay, cool.
And let's just forget about how he didn't have a birth certificate.
Let's just put that aside.
Let's put aside that his wife, Michelle, is actually a Michael.
Obama. Let's put that aside.
So he came up in a presidency, handpicked.
They handpicked him.
Like, let's put you in because everybody's like, ooh, let's get a black president.
Yay, I don't care.
He could have been Hitler.
If he was black, people would have been like, yay, he's black.
And so he was touted as being this most peaceful, loving, let's get out of war, get out of war, get out of war type of guy.
Well, it turns out he was the only president.
Well, he was the president who bombed more.
He put out more bombs than any other president.
By far.
More than George Bush, which is insane.
And everyone thinks of Obama as being this great fucking president.
He was such a good president.
Everything he did was fucked.
Man, Obamacare?
Fucked. Everything was fucked.
Dropped more bombs than any other president.
It's like, people love the guy.
I don't get it.
That's because they don't know.
And his wife, Michelle, is a man.
She is a man, dude.
It's Michael Obama.
It's legit.
Look it up.
You can see all the videos.
She's got a penis.
She's got a fucking penis.
And just look at that face.
There are old pictures of them together.
Definitely a man.
Definitely a man.
I'm not even kidding, man.
Look, a lot of people thought fucking Golf of Tonkin wasn't real until the CIA came out and said, yeah, that was real.
But, you know, I mean, obviously she doesn't have masculine qualities or whatever, but I wouldn't say.
Oh, she does.
I wouldn't go as far as to say she's an actual man.
This is Coop talking.
I'm going on record.
Michelle Obama is Michael Obama.
She is a man.
Welcome to Coop Talk.
That's all I'm saying.
I look into conspiracies.
I look into this shit and I dig deep.
I go down so many rabbit holes.
Maybe I shouldn't go on record and say Michelle Obama is a man.
That's awesome.
From what I've seen, man, what I have seen is like, maybe that is a man.
Because what is that thing dangling between her legs there?
Mama said he had, you know, a fantasy, so it could be.
Well, Dustin, what did you want to discuss?
I mean, just more stuff like this.
That was one of the top things I had on my list was the COVID pandemic.
I was just watching a thing last night where they had, it was called The Leaf Room.
And so they would put you on LSD, and they would put you in a small, like, box room, and there's all these leaves.
Yeah. You know, all along the wall, and then they would put these goggles that already disoriented your vision.
And at the end of the room, they'd have a white bar that you were supposed to try to get level.
So you're already on acid with goggles that disoriented your vision.
But you're supposed to get out of that.
I have yet to figure out.
Who the fuck?
And the LSD they were using for those tests, that was good LSD.
The LSD they put out in the streets these days is just like garbage, all synthetic, just small.
And people were in these rooms for years, man, just on acid constantly, just to see.
Break their psyche and get them to be controllable.
I can't even imagine.
I tripped on acid.
I would hate to be stuck in a room, even if it was full of leaves.
That could be kind of cool, actually.
But if you can't get out, that's where the problem happens.
That's when you're like, oh my god!
Or if you're coming down and then someone opens a door and they run in there where you're strapped down and they just dose you up again and you're like, no, no!
I don't want to be strapped down.
Don't be strapping me down.
That'd be the worst.
I know you guys have seen the videos of them having those guys on acid and they're like, how do you feel?
They're like, everything is so good.
Everything's so great.
It is?
No, it's supposed to be horrible for you.
And they come out with the baby Albert experiments where they just put on a scary mask and go up to you.
Yeah, fuck with you.
Scare the shit out of you.
Play the same song over and over and over.
Like, I don't know if you guys have heard, like, try to do that.
Just take a clip.
Not even a full, like, sentence or something, but just a clip of something and just play it over and over for, like, five minutes.
It fucks with you.
Because your brain is, like, it's not the beginning of a word.
It, like, starts in the middle and then it, like, ends before a word ends or whatever.
So it's just, like, this constant, like, fucked up thing because your brain is trying to make sense of it.
It's trying to, like...
Complete the sentence, whatever.
Yeah, and it can't really latch onto it because the pitch you're hearing isn't typically at the start or the end of what someone would normally sound like.
And your brain can perceive things like that.
It's how we understand language, right?
Someone can be speaking a different language and depending on the tones they're using, you can still tell when they start and when they finish.
But if you just take something from the middle and you don't complete it, it'd just drive your brain crazy, dude.
Yeah. I mean,
it's just so crazy.
You have these people like Sidney Gottlieb in 53. Sets out.
Buys up as much of the world's supply of LSD for experimentation from any source.
It's not like they hire, well maybe they did hire someone to make it as well, but purchasing already made, and then they just start distributing it like crazy across college campuses, giving it to inmates.
Some troubling things came about.
From that for the government in the 60s.
Absolutely. And later on when they wanted to go to Vietnam and everyone was like, no, dude.
Peace. Like, no.
Yeah, more war.
I don't think so.
And Sidney, for people who don't know, Sidney Gottlieb, he ran the CIA between the 50s and 60s, I think.
At least, I think longer than that.
But he was like a chemist.
He was a spy master for the CIA and he was, well, he's involved in a lot of assassinations.
Obviously, MKUltra.
But there's also, I don't know if you guys heard about this one, the Operation Midnight Climax.
It was established by Sidney Gottlieb.
Yeah, that's the name of the prostitutes coming, right?
Yeah, the hotel.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Because the guy, I forget his name.
It was something white.
I forget his name.
George White.
Yeah, my bad.
George White.
What he would do, he was basically given a black debit card, like a black fucking Visa card.
He was like, you'll spend as much money as you want.
Because he's proposing to Sidney Gottlieb.
He's like, I'm going to make a room.
Actually, he had two of these rooms that he set up to.
The mirrors would be one-way mirrors.
And it would just be like a hotel room or whatever.
So there'd be a room where the prostitute would be in there.
And high-profile people would come in to have sex with prostitutes, right?
That was a whole thing.
It was a honey trap.
To bring in...
Other government officials or whatever and basically spy on them.
And sometimes they would dose them up on drugs and the prostitute.
Obviously, sex does a lot, right?
It puts you in a position where it's like, I will talk to you about anything.
Just give me that pussy, you know?
And so they got a lot of information.
But this dude, George Hunter, he would sit behind this wall in one of these houses that he had.
And he literally was doing this so much that he actually installed a toilet in this fucking room right behind this one-way mirror.
And he would just position himself there and literally have, like, I think he was drinking martinis.
He loved martinis.
And he'd just have a pitcher of, like, martini mix.
And he would just sit there on the toilet with his pants down just in case he had to take a shit or a piss.
He didn't want to miss anything that he was watching.
So he would sit there and just drink his fucking margaritas or whatever and take notes and record all the shit happening.
It's like, the dude was given an endless amount of money.
Endless amount of money to do this.
Like the early stages of the Epstein Islands, man.
That's exactly what this was.
That was no different, except they were using children.
And who knows?
These guys probably were using children, too.
Obviously, Epstein, that was the same type of program.
It was a honeypot to get these people involved.
Have blackmail on them so that no one talks.
That's how the government works, man.
All these politicians are compromised.
Every fucking one of them, dude.
So if one of them goes off script, exactly.
If one goes off script, you got this whole group saying, hey, man, look at these pictures we have of you.
Yeah, that's a toddler.
Remember this?
And it's like, okay, I'll do anything you say.
That's how they keep them in check.
That's not a fucking myth.
That's not a conspiracy.
That is fucking true.
That is exactly what Epstein Island was.
Little St. James.
And, you know, it's still going on, obviously.
Oh yeah, it just moves hands.
Different names, different programs.
You know what I mean?
Once he fell.
Yeah, he was the fall guy.
Did he fall?
Is he gone?
Is he dead?
Is he really dead?
Yeah, he may just have fallen out of view.
I don't think he's dead, dude.
If you have that much money, okay?
And granted, he was getting funded by Chase Bank.
That's why Chase Bank paid out millions of dollars to a lot of the victims of his under no scrutiny.
It wasn't even publicized.
But Chase Bank paid off victims.
And who was Chase Bank?
Chase Bank is the bank that Epstein used.
All those big billionaire people were using Chase Bank.
So why is Chase Bank paying off victims?
Why is a bank doing that?
Yeah, what connection do they have to someone else's acting?
Yeah, it makes no sense.
It just makes no sense.
And I don't think he's dead.
They say fucking, what's her name?
Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison in New York or something like that.
Yeah, 20 years.
Allegedly, she's in prison.
But apparently, there are no photos or videos of her.
Her whole trial wasn't even aired.
It wasn't on...
Publicized, I guess you could say.
There were no cameras in there.
Right, right.
Wouldn't you want the public to know?
Wouldn't you want everybody to see this dangerous, this potentially dangerous person?
I don't know.
Yeah, you would think that that would be...
The thing is, like, oh, they'll go fucking air Trump's trial.
Why would they air Trump's trial?
Why is that so much...
I'd say, you know, honestly, more horrifying than...
Epstein's shit, but I mean, I'm not trying to compare the two.
And that whole thing, holy fuck, dude.
Let's just bring 33,000 scientists to the United States, but then we'll just kill like 100 of you because you're useless.
You don't have any knowledge for us to use, so you're going down.
But this 33,000 other of you, you guys have really good knowledge of science, so let's bring you on because you guys are like doing human experiments.
We want that information.
I'm living in California.
And the thing is, everyone thinks there's only like 3,000.
They brought over 30,000 Nazis over here.
And Canada.
And that was after Russia already took their share.
So how we got Wernher von Braun is pretty amazing.
Yeah, I mean, isn't it crazy that you could just...
The American government was like, well, yeah, this is a crime, but this, if you can help us out, not so much of a crime.
Like, you're all right, man.
You're all right in my book.
You're on our side.
It's all good, brother.
Show us your tricks.
Take this acid.
Yeah, take this acid.
Now take this LSD.
Yeah, just experiment on our fucking, experiment on our citizens and everything's fine.
You're good.
Damn. Dude, I mean, it's fucking true, dude.
It's so true.
History is a huge lie, man.
We don't get told the things that matter.
At all.
Who wins, man?
Because, like, I think every war was just a proxy war.
I think it was all just weapons, weapons companies.
Right, the military-industrial complex.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. That's why I don't think any...
All war isn't, like, a bunch of people being like, I hate you!
Let's fucking go to arms!
You know, that's not...
All these wars we see are started by, like, these powerful fucking assholes.
Who want these weapons companies to make a shit ton of money.
That's why I've been buying stock in weapons companies.
What do you own?
Like a six thousandth of a percent?
Not even.
My fucking ownership is paltry.
I don't even think I own anything.
I probably lost what I put into it.
Yeah, now I owe money.
Those bastards!
It's the only stocks that you get and then it takes your money.
I don't own any...
Well, actually, I do own 23andMe stock because I signed up for MooMoo and they gave me a free stock.
Nice! 23andMe.
I got in on Disney when I was in the 90s a long time ago.
You have stock in Disney?
Not much.
And then McDonald's also.
Hey, dude!
Get a McRib!
I'm not joking.
I boycotted McDonald's like 20 years ago.
I promise I won't put any LSD in your McRib, bro.
Now I feel like you should.
Wendy's will put LSD in my burgers.
Well, what do you guys think about what's going on with the whole migrant situation?
Really, they can't handle any more...
Put them up in all these hotels and they just have no room for them or resources.
That's just it, too.
It's not about hate or otherness.
It's like, we have a flimsy system at best.
Right. And then you're going to introduce people that need to draw upon that system, but you're not going to change the system.
And we don't even have an idea, like a good idea of the full.
Amount of what needs to change.
You're just setting yourself up for a collapse.
There's just no way that the system can handle it.
We weren't like, okay, we're prepared.
Look how hard it is to get for a school.
I'm just going to bring a domestic example.
How hard it is for a school to add another class.
Or to add...
You know, like, more students to an area, and how difficult that is to make that happen sometimes.
And we're talking about adding not just families, but just, like, tons of single individuals as well, and just people that don't necessarily speak the language, and we're just gonna throw them into the country like, damn, bro.
Yeah. And it's not, you know...
And I know that's not what they're trying to do.
They're not saying, oh, come on in.
They're trying to stop people and get things going on.
But... It's happening faster than we can prepare for it.
It's leading to a lot of tragedies and also opportunities for predacious people to get involved.
That's where the real trouble is caused.
Man, because it's like everyone thinks it's just, you know, Mexican migrants or Latino migrants, Hispanic migrants coming in.
It's not close to the truth, man.
Yeah, you got Chinese people, Africans.
We got so many people.
And, oh man, there's this, I don't know if you guys saw this, but this latest caravan, as they call them, it's just like insane.
It's like 200,000 people.
Traveling right now to come up here in this huge fucking caravan.
And there's already thousands, thousands at the border waiting to get in.
It's just, I don't know, man.
There's no end to it because the Biden administration is not trying to stop it.
The Biden administration is saying, come in, come in, come in.
It's like the governors of independent states or even just legislators are like, no, this needs to stop.
You can't do this.
passed a law, which Biden government fucking hates.
But they're sending they put it into their law that said we can send any documents.
Right. Giving each migrant $5,000
on Visa gift cards.
They're giving them cell phones.
They're giving them clothes.
Then they're giving them airplane or bus tickets to go anywhere in the United States.
That's what the fuck is.
Give me $5,000.
I'm a fucking citizen.
I need that money.
It's fucking crazy.
As of 2023, man, as of September, there were over 2.7 million documented migrants in the United States.
In 2022, there were over 2.4 million.
And that brings up a good point.
So they're struggling to get a handle on numbers, right?
It's difficult.
They don't know exactly how many.
And along with that number comes a number of deaths as well.
And currently, as of 2023, the number of deaths while crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, and that's just U.S.-Mexico, over 500.
And a lot of that is...
Well, I can't honestly say this is true, but a lot of it they're saying is from heat exhaustion, just from it being a hot area.
But there's a whole lot of other reasons, too.
Exposure. Just already being sick before you leave.
I'm sure a lot of those are children.
And women.
And elder folks.
Well, then you have, and this is a different...
Track to take, but it's also an opportunity for organized criminals, like the cartels, for example.
It's an opportunity to diffuse through this trekking of all these people your own agenda because you offer people tons of money, or you force them under coercion, to carry out your bidding,
blend in.
With everybody else, and it's a chance for them to take a stab at weakening our country as well.
Absolutely. There's just so many things happening that we can't get a handle on, and we don't even know the half of it.
A lot of people are going into debt with the cartel to get transported over here.
And so once they get over, if you can't pay back, then you've got to basically work for the cartel now.
Yeah, they're taking everything, and then they're giving over everything for the opportunity, just for the opportunity.
That's intense, man.
That's so intense.
The whole thing is just insane, man.
So the New York Post reported on May 10, 2023, that over half of a million migrants snuck into the U.S. illegally.
And U.S. Customs Chief Raul Ortiz, he admitted that, and he also called them...
Gotaways. They're gotaways.
He admits that those are the only ones that were spotted, apprehended, or triggered motion sensors, and that the number's actually a lot higher, but that's over 500 million.
Coop, I was going to ask, what do you think about the opinion that, you know, I remember when Hillary was running, that she appreciated the illegal people coming in because she thought it would be a good voting platform for her.
That was their plan.
Think about it, man.
It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican, if you're in power, if you're in the presidency or whatever, and you want votes, okay?
You want a lot of votes.
You feel like your party is losing, right?
So what do you do?
You tell a whole group of millions of people, okay?
And you're like...
We're going to give you free fucking money, a free cell phone.
Just come up here to the United States.
All you need to do is vote Democrat or Republican, whichever one would be in power in doing this.
In this case, it's President Biden as a Democrat.
Hillary, like you mentioned, Hillary a Democrat.
When they're bringing all these illegals in or get them certified with fucking whatever they need to be legal, that's a whole group of people that's going to be voting for your side.
That shouldn't be voting at all.
I mean, they want to get rid of where you don't need an ID to vote.
Exactly. Get rid of all of it.
Just get rid of all of it, you know?
Just get rid of it.
Yeah, let's not keep track anymore.
You want to write your name down on a piece of paper and you want to write a name down five times and give five pieces of paper.
Yeah, go ahead, dude.
Yeah, do it.
Fuck it.
they should prop someone up to be the scape the scape vote just some you know some like random joe schmo everybody votes it does a write-in for that this person who has no political experience doesn't want to do it and
then now they're elected and just that story about how that unfolds everything comes crumbling down
They should.
I mean, that almost reminds me of the new Argentinian president.
I don't think that's what happened, but dude, have you seen the guy?
No, uh-uh.
Oh, he's...
He's a clown.
I mean, in a good way.
You just need to watch some videos of him.
He just goes into the room.
He becomes president or whatever.
There's a list on this whiteboard or whatever of all these government programs that are in place.
And he goes up and he rips each one.
He's like, we don't need this!
And we don't need this!
And we don't need this!
Or this!
And he's just having a great time with it.
It's all theatrics, dude.
He's like, this one?
No, we don't need that one.
He's just throwing all of these programs away.
The dude, he seems like he's not intelligent.
He just looks like a clown.
Because I guess I'm just so used to these really proper politicians or something.
And he's completely different.
He's not even like a Trump.
He's like the opposite of Trump.
Just gotta look him up, man.
He just did a walkthrough of an Argentinian city.
He's just walking through, but he's got literally...
Hundreds of bodyguards.
Hundreds of bodyguards surrounding him.
Dude, it's crazy.
I forget his name.
He's the president of Argentina.
He just got voted in earlier a couple months ago or something.
They had to do a runoff because no presidential candidate won a majority in the first round.
Oh, okay.
Oh. So he just kind of got filtered down into the position.
That was held on November 19th.
And then Javier Milley.
Defeated Sergio Massa to become president of Argentina.
Javier, yeah.
I mean, he looks...
Dude, what he's doing, it's great.
And the guy who was incumbent, the dude who could have sought another term, he just didn't seek re-election.
He was like, nah.
I did want to bring up...
So, with the immigration thing, Texas Representative Lance Gooden, he...
He was talking about a report by the Center of Immigration Studies, and he says, quote, all of this sounds like they're using U.S. tax dollars to encourage this invasion into the nation, and it seems strange to me that we would support an organization that encourages and funds this.
It's totally crazy.
I am baffled that there's not more outrage, but I think the lack of outrage is due to the lack of knowledge, end quote.
That's always the case.
Yeah, 100%.
One of the other benefits, like we were talking about controlling the narrative at the start of this podcast, one of the benefits of keeping people in the dark is they can't react because they don't know.
They don't have all the information.
Exactly. It's technique number one.
Don't tell them everything.
The lie of omission.
You know?
Yeah, and their gameplay is to, well, they create the problem.
They deal with the reaction.
And then they create the solution.
And it keeps us like, oh, great, there's a problem.
And then we react to it.
We get angry, whatever.
We go on fucking Twitter or whatever the fuck and complain.
And then the government comes out with the solution to that problem.
And the solution usually encompasses us losing rights.
You know what I mean?
The solution's always, they want to benefit off something.
It's never for the people.
You know what I mean?
We're always losing something out of every solution they give us.
Yeah, they're like, here's the problem.
We don't have enough intelligence.
Here's the solution.
We're going to spy on everyone.
Here's the byproduct.
You lose your privacy.
You lose your privacy.
And in order to do this, we need to raise taxes because we need to pay for it.
Yeah, and then we need to raise taxes because it's going to be spendy to keep everybody safe.
You know, I know we were talking about Trump and we were, you know, expressing Some vague dislike.
Maybe not so vague.
But I did like his comment about Biden.
Just talking about the immigration crisis.
How Trump says Biden got rolled by Mexico.
He did, dude.
Something that he says he would never have let happen.
When he was president.
But that's what he told me.
He's like, oh, Biden got rolled by Mexico.
Hell yeah, dude.
Biden gets rolled by everybody.
China, Russia.
He is just...
He likes to get rolled on.
I don't think he knows he's getting rolled on, though.
I think he likes it, dude.
I think he likes to get the roll on.
As long as he can go around touching kids on live television, like, full-on groping them, like...
If he can continue doing that, I don't think he cares about getting rolled over by anyone.
You know, his leg hairs turn blonde in the sun, in the water, and the kids love to touch his legs.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about, man?
Kids love to touch my legs.
He's a fucking free president, you guys.
That's a fucking president.
Like, I don't understand why people aren't getting outraged by that.
You can easily go on fucking YouTube or whatever and look at these compilations of Biden literally groping little girls.
He's like, oh, are you 17?
She's like, no, I'm 7. Oh, that's perfect age.
Damn. Yeah, it's horrible.
But Trump's saying that would never happen if I was president.
I don't know.
I'm not saying he's going to be able to fix anything, but I do at least find that interesting instead of going, keeping things polarized between these two fuckers.
At least throw a third option and at least...
And it's not just because of his name, which obviously does help him out a lot.
But I've been checking him out.
He at least seems like an interesting candidate.
And he's totally against vaccinations and all that, which I'm all about.
That's one good thing that I've heard about him.
He did go to Epstein Island a couple times that he gloated about on live television.
Okay, you go to the island once.
Okay, I'll give you that.
You didn't really know what's happening, right?
You go to the island twice.
It's like...
Maybe you just wanted to see if it was really happening or not.
You go a third time and it's like, okay, what's really going on?
Why are you really going there?
And then you have Hillary Clinton going there seven times, Bill Clinton going there 22 times or whatever.
Like, yeah.
So RFK, I do think though, because it's RFK, he's a Kennedy, so we know that a lot of politicians are compromised, right?
But for him to come out wanting to be a president, a Kennedy, he knows what happened to his uncle.
He knows what happened to...
He is quoted as saying, hey man, I think this is on Joe Rogan.
He's like, hey dude, I could be taken out by the CIA just like John.
Yeah. I'm like, oh shit.
And Bobby and, oh fuck, dude.
All the Kennedys, man.
So to be a Kennedy and stick your neck out like this, it's pretty ballsy.
It's ballsy.
Unless he's just part of it.
Unless it's just one of these psyops that we just see constantly.
So he's quoted.
There's some quotes from him when he was on the Rogan show.
Joe Rogan asked...
What do you think happens when you get into office?
Like, if you're talking about your uncle who was assassinated, you believe the intelligence agency is a part of that, what happens to you?
And he responded, well, I gotta be careful.
And I'm aware of that.
I'm aware of that danger.
I don't live in fear of it.
But I'm not stupid about it.
I take precautions.
What precautions do you think that he's taken?
I wonder.
Well, in order to not be killed...
Well, in order to not be killed, man, you have to play by the rules.
So him playing it safe, he's going to play by the rules.
There you go.
He doesn't want to be killed.
He wants to be president.
Right. Exactly.
The interesting thing, too, because there are like 13 families that have just always been in control of everything in the world, and Kennedy is not one of them.
Kennedy is not one of those families, which is really interesting.
At least it's something else.
I was just hearing about these two guys, Biden and Trump.
Yeah, and it is just Biden and Trump.
And Trump's thinking about having Nikki Haley as his vice president, and Nikki Haley is dumber than a box of fucking rocks, but whatever.
Kamala. She was crazier than a box of rocks, and the other one is dumber than a box of rocks.
Yeah, you literally just have to watch her talk for five minutes, and you're like, what the fuck?
Shut up.
I don't know, man.
These people are just insane.
They get in office, dude.
I know that hypothetical thing on CNN said that Nikki Haley was leading, was beating Trump.
It's like, how?
No one's talking about Nikki Haley, dude.
Honestly, this is the first time I've heard her.
How is she leading?
Ragtag group of people, man.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't have a lot of hope for the future of this country.
Well, that's good.
You won't be disappointed.
Exactly. Low fucking expectations, man.
You won't fucking get pissed off about it.
But what do they say about every nation comes to an end after like 250 years or something?
And we're like at 234 or some shit.
I don't even know.
But we're close.
And if you look around us, everything's falling apart.
Everything. Everything's falling apart.
Why is the IRS armed?
Why do they have guns now?
Why are we letting in thousands of migrants who can...
You guys know that they have a law in place that these migrants could go buy fucking weapons without background checks.
You guys hear about that?
Yeah, so you can be an illegal immigrant, come up here, just go to any gun store, say, hey, I want to buy a gun, and boom, no background check.
You get a fucking AR.
With the money that the government gives you.
You know, you talk about the IRS.
So, I mean, corporate media asked the IRS why it needs these automatic weapons, right?
Because they're buying millions of rounds of ammunition.
They're buying, like, submachine guns.
You know what I mean?
They're making sure that their staff is, like, trained for the use of deadly force.
And they're like, why do you need it?
And they said...
It's for administrative reasons.
Administrative reasons.
Administrative reasons!
No! It's not even, like, legal, dude.
But this is nothing new.
So this has been happening steadily for 10 years.
So, like, at the end of 2017, the IRS had an estimated 4,487 firearms and about over 5 million rounds of ammunition.
That was in 2017.
Yeah, and that's when it first started really coming out.
So who knows what they have now?
I mean, we can only guess.
And it went from, I don't know the numbers of IRS agents, but back before that, it was X amount of IRS agents.
And then all of a sudden, it went tenfold.
So now there are like ten times the amount of IRS agents than there were eight years ago?
There are some estimates that are saying that by early 2022, they had purchased over 700.
$500,000 of ammunition.
That was just in early 2022.
$700,000 worth.
It's insane.
Why? Insurrection?
They're IRS!
People are starting to catch on, though.
There's representatives from Florida and South Carolina, Matt Gaetz and Jeff Duncan, and they wanted to introduce a Disarm the IRS Act to prohibit them from buying more ammunition, but it was just dead on arrival.
Good luck, yeah.
They're like, nope.
Let's militarize the government!
I think they're probably concerned.
And that's to say it lightly, but the government is like, damn, the people are going to rise up and start trying to kick our asses here pretty soon.
We need to get some guns.
Well, see, that's the thing, man, with the illegal immigrants, right?
So they're coming up here?
We all know Civil War's coming.
We all know that.
It's bound to happen.
It's going to happen.
It's just a matter of when.
And if we look at things, how fast things are moving now, how fast this country is just crumbling, civil war is right around the corner.
And there's a lot of talk.
Now, this is just a lot.
I'm not saying this is a lot of talk.
These illegal immigrants, or even legal immigrants, however you want to say, they're getting weapons without background checks.
Now, the majority of American people, diehard patriot American people, whatever you want to call them, They don't want to go kill other Americans, right?
We don't want to go turn on each other.
We don't want to turn on ourselves.
So who will fire the first shot into American people?
Well, what about these immigrants who aren't American and don't give a fuck?
Because if you look at the numbers and the ages of these people coming in, the vast majority are men of military age.
And so that's the theory going on right now is they're just bringing all of these immigrants in here, arming them, giving them a bunch of money.
And they will have basically an army of immigrants against an army of Americans.
And then they'll have their own martial law and shit.
Militia. That's an interesting theory.
It's kind of scary because it's not far from...
It could easily happen.
I mean, it's happened.
They're arming these immigrants with no background checks.
Why? What do these immigrants need weapons for as soon as they get here?
It doesn't make sense.
I feel like it's only fair now as soon as you graduate.
You get your diploma and then you get your 9mm right after that.
Exactly. Or your clutch in the air.
Yeah, you can go get a job, but here's your gun.
You don't need your ID.
No, here you go.
Put that away.
You look like you're seven or eight.
Yeah, infants.
Like, children are going in there, getting weapons.
It's like, I want a gun.
Oh, yeah, alright, alright.
Here you go.
Which one do you want?
You're holding it backwards.
Yeah. It's all that, man.
It worries me, dude.
I'm not a political person.
I think people should be concerned.
I don't think people should It catastrophizes because I think that tows the line between fear response where you're not thinking clearly and preparing.
And there is a fine line there.
But I do think people need to not just worry about how many likes they get on Instagram and how many videos they post.
There's a lot going on.
And it's going to catch some people.
Totally unawares.
It's going to catch pretty much, well, yeah, entire America who aren't prepared.
I mean, there are groups.
Well, and let me ask you this.
Do you think, and I know the answer, but do you think there are groups of people that just wholeheartedly believe every word that the government says?
What would it be like to be like that?
I can't even put myself in that frame of reference right now.
It'd be a worthless life.
It'd be a worthless life, man.
I've had this conversation.
So there are people, right?
There are people who are just brainless.
There are people who think and do things, take action and live a life of fulfilling goals and their destiny.
And then there are people who don't do any of that, who are just here to eat shit, sleep, and live.
And they don't do anything except for listen to CNN or Fox or whatever and just...
Gobble all of that fodder down.
There are those people.
There are those people.
They're everywhere.
They just don't think critically.
Yes, the critical thinking.
They believe every little thing they hear on television, what their government tells them.
Government! Government!
Government! There are people.
I say yes to that.
I will say this.
At least we could sit here and bash without having...
And we're discussing.
We're not just saying, I hate the government.
The reason that we're even here talking is because time and time again we're finding the subplot to the plot that people are getting.
But at least we can talk about it and we don't have to worry about at least right now or tomorrow at least for tomorrow getting Assassinated for saying so.
You know what I mean?
Exactly. And you know what?
Just talking about these things, if it was in their...
Well, it is in their control.
I'm not going to put it past them that just because we talk about this, we are a target for them.
We are an enemy of theirs, right?
And I'm sure there's a list that they add names to all the time.
I'm sure they hear people talk like this because they've been tapping our phones forever.
When you say keywords, remember we always heard that.
When you say keywords on the phone like bomb or fucking whatever, assassination, something like that, it would start recording.
We've all heard those stories.
We all know that all of these companies, these corporations are taking all of our data, reading everything we put online into a database.
It's not like someone sitting behind a computer reading all of these texts or reading all of these messages.
It's just all being stored somewhere.
When they want to go look at you, it's all right there for them to open up and be like, okay, let's see what he did on this date.
Oh, look at this.
Look, he posted this here.
Look at this Facebook message.
That's what they do.
It's just data mining centers.
It's so easy when you have that much resources.
You can so easily frame it how you want to frame it.
You can say, oh, this guy's a nut.
Look at this.
He posted this.
He posted this.
He's a crazy person.
Nobody listened to that guy.
That's tactic number one.
And then when that doesn't work...
Yeah, then they go to tactic number two, where they erase your ability to stand on your own.
They come after you.
They seize something from you, or they take something from you, and suddenly you're impaired.
Your money's gone.
Your credit's gone.
Whatever it is.
Then they're like, well, we've rendered him helpless now.
He's not a threat.
That's tactic number two.
Tactic number three is you just go bye-bye.
Yeah, imprison him.
Imprison him forever.
Send him to fucking Guantanamo.
Snowden. Right, right.
Snowden, where are you?
We want to talk to you, Snowden.
Edward. Where are you, buddy?
Come on to the show!
Not looking so good the last time he made an appearance.
Yeah, I don't know where he is, dude.
I don't know where he is.
I heard Julian Assange.
Well, he had to move from Moscow.
He went somewhere else.
But Julian Assange, he was living in an embassy somewhere.
I forget where.
And then the media started to frame him like he was a maniac.
Like, crazy guy.
They were trying to say he was running around the embassy throwing his shit at the walls and just going crazy.
And they started posting pictures of him with wild hair.
And it's like, he's just a nutjob!
No, he's not, dude.
He's a fucking real goddamn patriot, in my eyes.
I don't care.
Yeah, go throw a shit in an embassy.
I don't give a fuck.
I'll do it, too.
Fuck the embassies, man.
So, in 2020, it was confirmed that Russia had granted him permanent residence.
Awesome. That was 2020.
He was staying up there.
Which doesn't surprise me, because they would want someone around.
This is Snowden.
They would want someone around who knew something about the government.
He knew a lot, and a lot of people try to discredit him too, but it's like, that motherfucker came out and told us some facts, bro.
Facts about the government spying on us that has been verified over and over again.
And people are still like, Edwin Snowden's a traitor!
Who's the traitor?
The government spying on you and throwing you in prison because of an opinion you have?
Or this guy that exposed the government for what they are?
Who's the real traitor here?
There's another one, that other military lady, well, transgender, Chelsea Manning, I believe.
And they imprisoned her, him, whatever, for doing the same thing because Chelsea was a whistleblower.
And I forget what information he or she put out.
But they sent him to prison.
And he was in prison for, I don't know how long, like 10 years or something.
But then Obama let him go.
Dropped the charges or whatever.
Let her go.
Pardon? Pardon, yeah.
So, I mean, that's cool, I guess.
But why pardon Chelsea Manning?
Because when Obama did that, he was calling, like, basically the death of Snowden at the same time.
He was like, we need to get this guy!
It's all in prison forever!
But we're gonna let Chelsea Manning go.
Who did the exact same thing.
Yeah, it's interesting.
It's like, why are they picking shoes?
Yeah, and I mean, this...
Snowden was, like, fully aware that, you know, the government was...
They wanted him back.
Bad. Oh, yeah.
Fuck yeah, dude.
Exactly. But it's funny because he's quoted as saying that he loves being in Russia because it's a beautiful place.
It's one of the most beautiful countries, he says.
I'm like, yeah, I'd probably say that too if I was living in Russia.
I'm not going to say anything negative about Putin.
He's quoted as saying, the people are friendly.
The people are warm.
You know?
I'm like, yeah, okay.
I agree.
I'm sure Russia's doing just fine.
I'm sure Russia's great.
You know?
Like, just as the Western media, because Russia's always been an enemy of the United States, right?
Always. Because they were communists.
They're not even really communists anymore.
I don't know what they call a socialist something, but it's not the communism that it used to be, right?
Like North Korea still is.
Or China, even.
But Russia, they've been democratized a lot.
I don't know if that's the correct word, democratized or whatever, but they're not as communist as they used to be.
I don't know how to word that, but...
Yeah. Problem is, they have a dictator in power.
That's the problem.
At least he's the enemy you can see.
He's not the one that can't.
But he's the enemy in plain sight.
He's... He's rigged his own election for decades now.
No, he hasn't.
You take that back.
Those are fair elections.
The past 20 years?
The past 20 years?
Nobody disappears or dies or gets poisoned over there.
Who was the dude?
Who was that guy?
Most recently?
Yeah, that's been trying to run it and they imprisoned him.
And he's been trying to get out.
I forget his name.
But he had a great shot.
At taking over the fucking country, dude.
And then Putin's like, nope, arrest him.
Arrest him.
Well, first they poisoned him, remember?
Yeah, they tried to kill him.
Yeah, they tried to kill him.
They poisoned him on an airplane.
He didn't die.
Alexei Navalny.
Yes, Alexei Navalny, yeah.
I want to talk to him.
I wonder if we can get, like, a fucking meeting with Alexei Navalny.
I mean, I doubt it.
No, no.
We're never going to talk to him, man.
What is he in the Pink Dolphin or Black Dolphin?
What do they call that place?
Black Dolphin.
The worst prison.
Black Dolphin.
Pink Dolphin.
Hey, it would have been better.
Pink Dolphin.
To take in the whole fucking MK Ultra.
Have this Pink Dolphin.
Yeah. It's delicious.
Tastes like LSD.
I love it.
I love it.
The weird mirror.
I would have tried to get you to take MKUltra.
Have this pink dolphin.
Okay, it's so wonderful.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, alright, let's move on from all of that, alright?
We talked about that enough.
Let's talk about something that a lot of people don't talk about.
Building 6 in the World Trade Center.
Building fucking 6. What was Building 6?
Do you guys know what Building 6 was?
I'm not that familiar with that.
This will actually be a...
I was just going to say, it's one of the most famous buildings taken down during the September 11th attacks.
Well, there are seven buildings in total at the World Trade Center.
A lot of people don't understand that.
There are seven.
Building 6 is...
Oh, the tower is Tower 1 and Tower 2, South Tower, North Tower, and then goes to building number 7. If you take the standard person and they go down, yeah, I heard of Building 7. But it's like, what about Building 6?
Did you ever hear about Building 6?
No. What happened to Building 6?
What did happen to Building 6?
No. No.
That's what they tried to say.
That's what the official narrative tries to say.
No, look at some pictures.
Go to Google.
Fuck Google, but just go to Google and look at the images of Building 6 and tell me...
What happened there?
What does that look like?
Because you know what we need to do?
We need to trust our eyes and not trust the government telling us to not trust our eyes.
Right? We need to trust our fucking eyes.
Trust our instinct.
But we're just told again and again and again, don't trust your instincts.
Don't trust your eyes.
We're going to tell you what happened and you're going to believe it.
Like Carl, what is his name?
Klaus Schwab.
You will own nothing.
Oh, right.
The Great Reset.
Great Reset.
But Building 6, right?
So no one really knows about it.
It had eight floors.
It stood between the North Tower and Building 7. It housed U.S. Customs and several other federal departments, the Export-Import Bank of the U.S., the IRS, the Inspection Service and Internal Affairs Department,
the U.S. Department of Commerce, the ATF.
U.S. Department of Agriculture, which was the AAPHIS Administrator Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, which obviously we need that, obviously.
U.S. Department of Labor and the Peace Corps.
Apparently it was also the home to the El Dorado Task Force, which was an interagency group of 55 agencies created in 1992.
The force was responsible for coordinating all major money laundering investigations in the United States.
Okay? Ah, of course.
What do you guys think about that?
I never got super big into the whole night.
saying that I didn't think it was an inside job or at least allowed to happen.
But I never dug that deep into 9-11.
I thought it was kind of sitting from the get-go.
It's all dirty.
And it isn't just an inside job.
And it isn't just they let it happen.
It's layers upon layers of things happening that led to that happening.
It was at least 20 years in the making.
This wasn't just one day they decided to fucking do this.
This was in the making.
Planned attack for over 20 fucking years.
So Building 6, if you look at pictures of it, okay, Scott, can you explain what that picture looks like?
Yeah, so one of the main things that has caused controversy is that even though it wasn't one of the main buildings that was hit, there's a huge crater in the bottom of the building, which can't be explained by just debris falling on this building,
you know?
Right. Especially when the debris was dust.
That's a huge problem.
Yeah. There was no debris.
It was just dust.
It crumbled.
It powderized itself into nothing.
So, like...
Right, and our listeners, you know, if they've heard our previous episodes or if they've done any digging into this, you know, the leading theory is super thermite.
We're being used from the internal structure of a lot of these buildings to just super-pulverize the concrete.
It's one of the only things that could explain the utter pulverization of concrete that wasn't at the impact site of the jets themselves.
Yeah, there's also another theory, too, aside from the super-nanothermite bringing those buildings down, which, hence, 20 years in the making.
How do you think they got that thermite in the buildings over 20 fucking years?
Yeah, it took 20 years for them to get it on every fucking floor.
All in the elevators in each building.
So other than the super nano thermite being used, there's also the theory of direct energy weapons.
And we know these exist.
The government has definitely told us they have the weaponry to do this.
So basically, direct energy weapons, I don't know, it's like a laser from above and it just pulverizes things.
Wherever this thing is aimed, It's a direct energy weapon.
And I don't know how it works.
I'm not going to proclaim I know how it works.
This is just a theory that's out there.
But from above, they just use these direct energy weapons to disintegrate the buildings from the top to the bottom.
At the same time, the nanothermite exploiting from the inside out, which everything just crumbles.
Because if you look, man, it just goes down.
Straight down.
Straight down.
Crumbles down.
Into powder.
So I just want to throw that.
Theory that's going on out there, too.
Yeah, which is insane when you think about how much material there is.
It would have taken so long.
Right. Just the effort involved.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah. It's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing...
Nothing sits right about this whole fucking case.
But, so, like, Building 6, yeah, like you said, it has a huge implosion.
There are actually two really huge whole craters in there.
And there was an expert photographer.
He was also an art director, designer, photo analyst since 1963.
His name was Jack White.
Not the musician.
But he studied all the photos and videos of World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and Shanksville.
And he is adamant.
This is a fucking expert photographer, art director, designer, photo analyst since 1963.
Adamant. That the government faked most, if not all, of the official photos.
He is adamant that Building 6 was blown up from the inside, from the basement levels up.
And if you look at the photographs, it shows Building 6 was not destroyed by any debris of Tower 1 and 2, especially when we already mentioned that was just dust.
It was pulverized.
No chunk is going to be flying off to cause the damage caused on Building 6, okay?
And the aerial pics shows two massive holes all the way through the building into the basement.
You can see...
Which isn't that crazy?
Like, two...
I mean, they describe it as a giant, gaping, roundish hole in the roof that goes all the way down to the ground level.
Cause unknown.
Right? Not even to the ground level.
It goes...
Through the ground level into the underground basement areas.
That's wild.
That's insane.
You can see it in the pictures.
You can see where the ground level would have been, and you can see down, because beneath all of the towers were like stories of parking garages and shit.
And there was a train under there, a subway and stuff.
There's all sorts of tunneling down there, right?
And in the pictures, you can see into those basement levels of Building 6. How the fuck would that happen?
It was literally hollowed out.
Especially with just not falling on it.
Well, that's the thing, too.
Because the pictures that were taken, Dustin, they were taken before the towers even fell.
Okay? So how can the debris cause it?
Right? Yeah.
Exactly. So it just doesn't make sense.
And it's like the fact that World Chase Under 6, it was severely damaged before the first tower collapsed.
Which can be seen by photographer Bill Biggert, who actually took a lot of photos, who was actually killed on 9-11 when the North Tower collapsed.
Yeah, I believe Bill Baggert, right?
Bill Baggert.
Bill Baggert, they recovered his camera.
He was on site shooting the pictures as it was happening, and he was actually killed, and then they recovered his camera.
And on the images, what you see in the images doesn't line up with the official explanation.
Exactly. As so often happens.
It's just completely gutted.
And this guy gave his life taking these pictures.
I mean, he probably wasn't intending on doing that.
Architecturally speaking, the towers would not have collapsed because two planes hit them, dude.
It's absurd.
It's fucking absurd.
Those towers were built...
To withstand two 747s hitting the towers.
They were built to withstand two 747s hitting the towers.
And of course, these are 767s.
But guess what?
They don't hold as much.
They hold, I think, 100-200 gallons more fuel than the 747.
Everyone's saying, oh, the 767s are so much bigger.
That's why it causes much damage.
But the fact is, they're not that much bigger.
They're not really bigger at all.
I think the wingspan is like 5 feet difference.
The fuselage was like the same and it only held like, I don't know, a few hundred more gallons of fuel.
So to say that the damage between the two would be that much different is just retarded, dude.
Fucking retarded.
But there was a ground zero...
Go ahead.
This is kind of shifting a little bit, but still, you know, like with the Pentagon, still, you know, got hit that same day.
By a missile, yeah.
Right, yeah.
There's no...
Supposedly where that plane hit was where all our records were for our financial records.
And there's trillions of dollars now that's unexplained.
They're like, well, where'd it go?
They're like, I don't know.
All our spending in the past however many years.
Let me add this really quick.
On September 10th, I think either Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld, the one on national television, the day before 9-11, and said, we're missing $2 trillion.
The Pentagon is missing $2 trillion.
The next day, 9-11 happens.
And like you said, right where the Pentagon was hit, the records being housed in there were directly involved with the $2 trillion that were missing.
That's what all those records were.
They were literally going through all those files at the time.
Yeah, so like, yeah.
The records about the two trillion missing, that's where those records were.
Well, and on the same day, 9-11, the Securities and Exchange Commission declared a national emergency.
And for the first time in history, their emergency powers under the Securities and Exchange Act were...
And that allowed them to ease all regulatory restrictions that they had for clearing and settling security trades for 15 days.
And an estimated $240 billion in covert government security was just cleared upon maturity without any regulatory control whatsoever.
That's insane!
You have the smoke show.
Over here...
Government monies.
It's all good.
cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, we're good,
It's no big deal.
Everybody's paying attention to this.
Look what the right hand's doing.
It's so crazy!
I mean, these are things that happen.
This isn't just a theory.
This happened.
There's just so much weird shit, dude.
How... What's his name?
Gugliani, the mayor of New York.
He had his...
I call him Gugliani.
He had an office in the World Trade Center where his...
I don't know.
What do you call it, man?
What do you call it?
Fuck. I can't think of words.
Anyway, so Giuliani, they put millions of dollars into this safe, really safe place in World Trade Center 7 for him to go when shit hits the fan.
But for some reason, he's like, no.
We're not going here.
Let's go to the pier.
And so they went to the pier where there was a FEMA setup or something.
It was set up on the 10th for something that was going to happen the following day.
Now, why that was set up on the 10th by the pier makes no sense.
Yeah, it was FEMA spokesman Tom Kinney.
He was in an interview.
And he stated that they were deployed to New York Monday night, September 10th, to be ready to go into action on Tuesday morning, which is crazy.
And then, of course, they came up with a reason that he made the statement.
They were like, oh, he didn't know what he was talking about.
There were dozens of witnesses saying that they saw all of the FEMA get set up on the day before, right in plain sight, right on the pier, looking toward the World Trade Center.
So that's called foreknowledge.
That's called someone told them to go there because something was going to happen.
So their hasty response was that Pier 92 was quote-unquote going to have a drill on September 12th.
It's always a drill.
It's always a drill.
Because remember, on September 11th, there was also the drill where airplanes were hijacked and flown into buildings, including the Pentagon and the World Trade Center.
Why is that a drill that happens on the same day?
And then you have the FEMA drill happening on the same day.
Why? It makes no fucking sense.
But I wanted to get into this EMT.
Her name is Patricia Androvich.
She was a ground zero EMT, and she witnessed so much shit, dude.
So she gave an exclusive interview with a publication called Killtown, of all things.
Probably a horrible name.
And she said that when the South Tower collapsed, she witnessed the World Trade Center 5 blow up, okay?
It blew up, she said.
She said it blew up.
Cars were exploding as she was running away.
She saw, she reached World Trade Center 6. She saw explosions inside of the lobby.
And then she said, quote, After passing the cars on fire, I was trying to find someplace safe.
I tried to run into the lobby of six World Trade, but there were federal police, maybe four to six of them, standing in the open doorways.
And as I tried to run in, they would not let me in, waving me out, telling me, you cannot come in here, keep running.
And so she says, as I started to run again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one by one like Christmas lights.
Chase in pattern.
Kind of like just what?
Kind of in a pattern.
And she said, I think I started running faster at that point.
She didn't even think about what was happening, right?
How could you?
There's so much shit going on.
Yeah, and so she said the flashes were accompanied by pops and said it sounded just like a movie.
And she said that they definitely went off in a sequence.
And she had the immediate impression that they were timed explosives, okay?
She also said that as she was trying to get into the lobby of Building 6 with those four or five officers blocking her from entering, she said she saw other officers further inside of the lobby.
And she said that all of these quote-unquote federal officers, they were wearing light brown uniforms with Smokey the Bear hats.
And apparently they didn't have any insignia or anything on them.
And she wasn't sure, but she thought they were federal agents, right?
But who are these people that wouldn't let her inside the building?
To her, she said they were dressed to do lobby detail, like they were janitors or something.
They had no flakware, no weapons, no badges, just plain brown uniforms.
Have you ever heard of that?
Like, that's just, it's weird.
And she said that these people only cared that nobody got inside the building.
And it seemed to her that they didn't even care what happened to them.
They were just, like, there to make sure nobody got in.
Which is weird.
There's a quote-unquote terrorist attack.
Buildings are hit.
People are trying to get out of this falling debris anywhere.
And Building 6 wasn't hit by anything.
Obviously, it was exploded from the inside.
So why were they trying to keep her from getting, not just her, but a lot of people, from getting inside?
Sounds to me like they were trying to keep something quiet.
They didn't want people to see.
What was happening inside?
Well, that's a good point.
So you have, no matter how deep the conspiracy goes, I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that there were real American casualties, or just real casualties in general, by honest people that were just there sucked up into a part of it.
But on that note, on the people note, not even the government note, but the people note, there were also people that were rumored to have gained From this as well.
Was it the building's owner?
Silverstein? Silverstein, yeah.
Got like $4 billion.
Yes, he insured the complex for $3.6 billion.
And he added in the insurance policy.
Yeah, just a couple weeks before.
And he added in the insurance policy.
If the flags don't fucking go off in a person's brain about this shit, it's like, dude, you're fucking, you're done.
You are fucking done.
If flags don't fucking go off in a person's brain about this shit, it's like, dude, you're fucking, you're done.
You are fucking done.
And he actually claimed double, too, because he said, hey, these contracts include terrorist attack, and then he claimed that there were two different attacks.
So he tried to claim $7.2 billion.
Yeah. But they didn't give it to him.
But they still gave him.
An additional $1.1 billion.
He sued because they didn't give it all to him.
But he emerged a billionaire.
A billionaire, dude.
Overnight. And what's interesting about that, too, is for the man, he never missed a day of work except for 9-11.
The same with his daughter.
The same with his son.
And then just one more little side plot.
And I know these are popular, but I'm still bringing them up because we're talking about it.
The gold?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, let's talk about the gold for a second.
The fucking gold, bro.
Well, the gold.
It was in a movie.
Remember the movie?
Where they portrayed this whole thing happening, except for the towers being hit by airplanes.
It was called Die Hard.
Great movie.
It was the second one.
Remember? Because they were taking out all of that gold beneath the buildings.
By the truckload.
And that is exactly what happened on 9-11.
They were taking, well, probably the day after, but they were taking truckloads, or maybe the day before, truckloads of gold from down below the basement levels.
There were witnesses saying that they were in the basement levels because that's where everyone parked.
They were armed, not even security guards, but armed agents everywhere.
Is that a baby?
No, she's not.
A little bit of whooping cough.
Just say again what you were saying, Coop.
Oh, you're good.
So, the movie Die Hard, they portrayed that perfectly, other than the towers being hit by planes, right?
Oh, yeah.
In the movie, the premise was those bad guys were going down.
Taking the gold out from below the World Trade Center.
I think it was the World Trade Center in the movie.
I can't remember.
It's been a while.
But regardless, they were going down to the basement levels of New York and taking truckloads of gold bars, bullion, out of the World Trade Center.
And that's exactly what happened on this occasion.
Because I don't know how much gold was stashed down there.
Something billions worth.
There's also something...
Yeah, they were saying billions of dollars in gold bullion was stored underneath there, and they recovered some of it, but they're saying it was owned by the Kuwaiti government.
Yeah, it was.
Why the Kuwaiti government had all the gold underneath the World Trade Centers, who knows?
Oh yeah, they also had, they were called Black, it was called Black Eagles, that's what it was, Black Eagle Coins.
They were Nazi gold dollars or whatever.
Tons of those down there that were all recovered.
All of those were recovered.
Because those were super, super valuable.
Nazi gold.
Wouldn't that be illegal to have?
Technically, like an eagle's feather.
It's the government.
Fair enough.
And they did bring all the Nazis over here.
That is true.
It was probably all the gold those fucking Nazi scientists had.
They're like, give us all your gold coins.
We won't kill you.
These will be worth a lot someday.
Yeah, when we fucking blow up some towers that haven't been built yet.
The reason that this is even part of the conspiracy is because witnesses literally saw heavy machinery operators and other workers build and grade a ramp.
They saw them drive in.
This Brinks armored truck just before sunset.
Yeah. Like they knew something was going to happen the next day.
Right. You know?
Right. I mean, holy shit, dude.
That's crazy.
And like I said, they had armed, like, federal fucking armed agents with, like, AR rifles.
Yeah, it was like over a hundred.
Yeah. So, again, how does that not make, like, red flags go off in your head, dude?
All these things.
Yeah, I think it's time for the American people to just...
And just the listeners of the podcast, if you haven't gone down any of these rabbit holes, go down them.
I mean, start questioning.
Because if you don't start questioning, it's going to kick you in the ass.
It's definitely something I'm interested in learning more about.
Let's talk with you guys about this.
Yeah. Well, it's because everyone talks about Building 7. Because we all saw that.
That was obviously a controlled demolition.
I mean, they all were.
But everyone talks about Building 7, but why not Building 6?
Because if you look at a picture of Building 6, that was gutted from the inside out.
That should have some questions along with it.
But then I always think about, what about Building 3, 4, and 5?
So I'm going to look into those.
I'm sure there's something weird about all those too.
Yeah, we should bring that back on a future cast.
For sure.
Well, yeah, that's the plan.
That's the plan.
We're going to do, like, the Pentagon in its own episode.
We're going to do Shanksville, which is not a fucking plane.
But, you guys, let's finish this off with talking about the Dancing Israelis.
You guys heard about Dancing Israelis on 9-11?
Absolutely. These are the gentlemen that the eyewitnesses, a woman, who witnessed these men watching the destruction on the day of the world.
Trade Center tragedy.
They were high-fiving, being jovial, I think documenting it a little bit.
I want to say there was pictures, yeah, there was a recording going on.
They're literally in the best mood ever, like, all right, as this is going down.
And she saw them and then reported it.
You know what I mean?
Yep. She said they were dancing and celebrating.
So who are these guys?
Well, okay, I got the names.
Two of them are brothers.
Sivan. Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Oded Elner, Omer Marmari, and Yaron Schmuel.
They were all spotted by that woman.
I don't have her name here, but she called the FBI.
And she's like, these guys are watching the attacks.
They're filming the attacks.
They're having a great time down here, dancing, loving life.
You guys need to check them out.
About eight hours later, they were arrested and questioned.
They were questioned by the FBI, but they were arrested in an urban moving systems van.
It was a company they were allegedly working for.
The police acted on the FBI alert.
Thank you.
So there were witnesses who saw them and the van as early as 8 a.m., which is 46 minutes before the first plane hit, and they were in this parking lot setting up their cameras.
And getting ready to, like, they were there knowing it was going to happen.
Alright, that's plain and simple.
The police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming Middle Eastern men with a white van were videotaping the disaster while jubilantly celebrating.
Suspicious. Alright.
So the police, they would locate the van about eight hours later.
They pulled them over.
They searched the van and the men and they found a box cutter.
Same box cutter that, you know, the alleged terrorists in the planes had.
And $4,000 in cash was found in the van, as well as traces of explosives.
Now, one of the men carried two passports, and another had fresh pictures of the men standing in front of the smoldering wreckage as the World Trade Center behind them was burning and smoke everywhere.
And they're like clapping, high-fiving, thumbs up, peace signs, all sorts of happiness.
Oh, they're super happy.
Super happy.
So the FBI, they arrested all the men.
They searched the warehouse of the Urban Moving Systems in Weehawk in New Jersey.
They seized a bunch of computer hard drives, a bunch of documents, which we don't know what was on them.
So 9-11's happening.
The woman seized the dancing Israelis.
There was another phone call made by someone, an anonymous person.
And the mystery caller told the 9-11 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van.
Headed for the Holland Tunnel.
Okay? Now, it's speculation, but it's thought that the terrorists said the Holland Tunnel, or the anonymous phone call, said the Holland Tunnel, so all the police would go to the Holland Tunnel, and then they were actually going to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
But it got foiled because the police would actually shut down all of the tunnels and all of the bridges.
So it totally ruined their plot.
And the New York Times, Fox News, CNN, ABC, NBC, even Dan Rathers with CBS, they would all echo exactly what the Jerusalem Post would report.
That a van with two or three men inside was stopped, either on or near the George Washington Bridge, packed with explosives.
The Jerusalem Post would actually state the following.
American Security Services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge.
The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge.
Authorities suspect the terrorist intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported.
Two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge.
The FBI says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.
It was reported the van contained tons of explosives.
Man! End quote.
That's from the Jerusalem Post.
Crazy. It's just insane.
And that's what every major U.S. newspaper reported on as well.
But guess what?
That got swept under the rug really quick, didn't it?
That and a number of other things from that day.
That was one of the main...
Like, a lot of the investigations into these people kind of around the outside of the event, they just were halted.
And then information ceased to be put out there directly after that.
A little bit weird.
Yeah. You know?
Like, why?
Yeah, why?
Oh, because they didn't want you to know.
That's why.
Because then you start connecting too many of the dots.
Now, can you imagine, dude, if their entire plan went through, that would have been, like, it was already insane, dude, but holy shit.
To blow up the George Washington Bridge as well.
But look, dude, these people were caught by the cops.
And why this wasn't reported more is just maddening.
It just makes more questions.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so let's see, the Jewish Weekly and the foreword in the newspaper reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for Mossad and that urban moving system.
Yeah, they decided it was a front, right?
Yeah. Yeah, they said that the urban movie systems was actually just a front operation for a vast Israeli spy network.
And the Israelis, they were held in custody for 71 days before quietly being released officially for visa violations.
And they were just sent back to Israel.
And the Bush administration would make a behind-the-scenes agreement with the Israeli government to agree to release the men.
Now, who signed off on the release?
That was then Attorney General John Ashcroft.
So after leaving his position, he went to the private sector of politics as a lobbyist and a consultant in 2005.
His first clients would happen to be the Israel Aircraft Industries International, LTU Technologies Incorporated.
In 2011, he became an independent director on the board of Academy, which is a very controversial security firm that was once known as Blackwater.
That's right, Blackwater.
Blackwater Academy is well known to be involved in weapons trafficking, unlawful force, and corruptions, according to dozens of court records.
And according to the Israeli men's lawyers, one of them, Paul Kurzberg, had previously worked for Mossad in another country prior to arriving in the United States.
Again, red fucking flags.
Another of those men, Odin Elner, he subsequently stated on Israeli TV that the five Israelis had been in New York at the time to, quote, document the event, end quote.
Yeah, man.
They just admit to this shit.
Well, and I love that, and this is what I was going to say before, but the government says, nope, Israel was definitely not here conducting COVID ops.
And then literally a year later, Israel's own government was like, yeah, they were.
Yeah. They're like, oh, yeah, we were there, actually.
Your government's lying to you.
Yeah, we were conducting covert office there, dude.
Are you guys dumb or something?
We do it in plain fucking sight.
Literally, we're doing it right in front of you guys.
You got us.
You got us.
I thought they would tell you that, but I guess not.
Okay. We'll tell you.
And then the owner of the company, Urban Movie, he was also an Israeli man named Dominic Otto Suter.
He was questioned by the FBI almost immediately, but he wasn't arrested or anything like that.
And then two days later, on September 14th, it was discovered that he just quickly shut down the business, put his house up for sale, and fled back to Israel with his family.
And that's not questionable, is it?
No, not at all, dude.
And it was discovered that he set up Urban Moving with a $500,000 loan from the U.S. government.
Huh. Interesting.
I'm going to spin this again.
I'm going to take it in a different direction.
Let's picture this.
Rebel Israeli faction gets mobilized, finds footing, carries out a plot, gets thwarted.
Rather than admit that they're not controlling their citizens, what if Israel's like, oh yeah, we were doing covert ops?
Well, what do you mean?
I'm confused.
So what I'm saying is, what if the Israeli government...
Didn't put the dancing Israelis in America.
I see what you're saying.
They're just some kind of rogue separatist faction.
The United States says, hey, you want to get your boys?
And they're like, oh yeah, yeah, we got this.
Oh, we were conducting covert ops over there.
Instead of admitting like, oh, we didn't have control of these people.
You know?
It's a theory within the theory.
That's all I'm saying.
A lot of the terrorist groups take credit for a bunch of stuff that they had no part in.
But since there was kind of that Muslim or Middle Eastern tie, they're like, oh yeah, we did it.
Yeah, that was us.
And that goes back to the start of the episode for the listeners.
The common denominator is the American government.
Most of what we're talking about here, whether it's a relationship, whether it's direct action, sometimes above board, sometimes discovered later being under the table, or whether it's narrative, the common denominator is always the U.S. government.
And like I said, I didn't come on here today to bash the United States government.
We're just talking about things that people need to know.
These are things that you need to at least consider, at least wonder about.
What is the story behind the story?
This podcast isn't to just attack people.
Blame is going to be placed where blame deserves to be placed, which is always with the United States government.
They are in control of this goddamn country.
So when something goes awry, it's on them.
Our leaders are supposed to be leaders.
Taking control of situations to make sure the citizens are not in danger.
Exactly. Like, why did Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, whatever, call off the jets to shoot down the airplanes?
Why? A general even said, hey, does the order still stand?
I can't even know if it was Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld, but they're like, did I say anything different?
And it's like, oh, yeah, I think so.
So it's, wow, you know, it just makes me, this is how old now, 20 fucking two years, and I'm still fucking as angry as I was from the beginning.
And only so because I keep figuring out more and more to the puzzle.
And it just, it's always a little fire that's lit inside of me because I fucking despise this sort of shit.
I despise governments, especially the American government, who do these activities.
MKUltra, that's not cool, but it happened.
As citizens, we are not guinea pigs to them, but lo and behold, we have no value to them.
We hold no value to these people.
They don't give a fuck how many people die.
They don't.
Sorry, I'm ranting.
I just want to say one more thing about Dominic Otto Suter, the owner of the Urban Moving Company.
So, after he had bounced back to Israel with his family...
The FBI, CIA, they didn't care.
They weren't even looking for him, which is weird.
But then, interesting, in 2003, Dominic Suter and his wife, Ornette Levinson Suter, were living in Florida.
Records show they are both associated with a Florida company called Number One Stop Cleaning, LLC.
In 2006-2007, Suter, he also was part of the telecommunications company, Granite Telecommunications.
And that company works for the U.S. military and several other U.S. government agencies.
He later registered a business called 24-7 Any Day LLC on April 16, 2008 at 119 Rockland Center in Nunwet, New York, which is apparently a UPS center.
So my question is, this guy was full-on involved with that company, Urban Movement Company, where the dancing Israelis were.
He flees to Israel.
Obviously, some red flags there.
He comes back two years later, sets up in Florida.
And then starts working for a military agency.
And then those businesses I said he registered, 24-7, Any Day, LLC.
Again, these are all front companies, the CIA front companies.
He's just banking money, dude.
Banking fucking money.
And then later, a former urban and moving system employee later contacted the Newark Division with information indicating that he had quit his employment with urban moving systems as a result of the high amount of anti-American sentiment present among urban's employees.
The former employee said that an Israeli employee of Urban had even once remarked, and I quote, give us 20 years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country, end quote.
That comes directly from page 37 of the FBI report.
And I'll end there.
Is that not fucked up?
Oh, it's crazy, dude.
Just the whole thing is crazy.
And like I said, like...
The network is so vast.
It's so layered.
It's just so confusing.
If you go down one rabbit hole, you have to go off a different rabbit hole to end up making a full circle.
It's insane.
It's insane.
And that's by design.
You make something so complicated, you're never going to figure out who is actually to blame.
And in this case, it's whole administrations.
Not just one person.
It's not just a handful of people.
It is like tons of groups of people.
Think of a Venn diagram.
You have this group, this group, this group.
Overlap all those groups.
In the middle, you have this group.
That's how it is.
Then you have multiple Venn diagrams over those other Venn diagrams.
You just have multiple groups within multiple groups within multiple groups.
No one knows anything about the others.
I think you guys want to make some final comments.
Then, Scott, you can close this out.
I just want to thank you guys for allowing me to be a part of this.
I've heard quite a bit just listening to you guys talk about things.
We spot a lot of shit.
Yeah, it's alright, man.
But it's, you know, stuff that I haven't necessarily either looked that deep into or even heard about.
It's all been very interesting.
This experience has been interesting with doing this with you two guys.
I have enjoyed it.
Hopefully you guys will have me back.
Just enjoyed the experience.
I appreciate it.
welcome, man.
Look, dude, we're just here, man.
This podcast, we tell stories about everything, right?
Serial killers, true crime, unsolved stuff, just conspiracies.
We're going to cover it all.
And I try not to be too opinionated, but God damn it, it is fucking hard to not have opinions on this goddamn podcast.
yeah
It is hard.
I try to remain neutral, but if I have a strong opinion on something, like a stance, I have to stand there.
I have to say something, man.
I don't know how I am.
I know, but I don't want to hurt people's feelings.
I don't want to call people stupid.
I don't want to demean anybody.
But it's just sort of...
I say things.
I say things.
Normal people just together talking about these topics would talk about it.
Yeah, like talking politics on Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas dinner with the family.
Don't do it.
Yeah. But I just want to say thank you guys and thank you for the opportunity to come on here.
You're welcome, dude.
Anytime. And do this with you guys.
Well, you're welcome.
You're welcome anytime, Dustin.
And that goes for all the listeners who've tuned in to the Paranautica podcast today.
Thank you guys for riding the ride with us.
We'll be touching...
On conspiracy theories in the future.
And we'll have our mainstay as well.
Serial killers, true crime, paranormal activities.
We try to have a broad range to change it up.
We like the variety.
And more importantly, it's important for people to think about these kinds of things so that they can be aware so that you don't get sucked into it, man.
And that's one of the things that at least...
Helps me get behind going down these rabbit holes because I'm like, well, maybe I can help somebody think in a different way.
And not just think, but think critically.
Exactly. We've got to not be so divisive on issues with each other because we're trained to be divisive.
We're trained to be separate, like form groups amongst ourselves.
That's because a group divided is one that can't stand.
So the main thing is to get both sides.
Communicating. So we're doing our best to communicate.
Join us in the communication.
You can send us an email at paranautica at gmail.com.
P-A-R-A-N-A-U-G-H-T-I-C-A at gmail.com.
You can even tweet us at Paranautica.
Dustin, thank you for joining us today.
As always, Coop and I will be here week after week just doing what we do.
All right, everybody.
You take care out there.
Love and support one another.
Look into the rabbit holes.
Find things out yourselves and always come back to the show because we're going to tell you some fucking truths.
