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July 19, 2023 - ParaNaughtica
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Fortune or Foe?

Perhaps we've all said it aloud at least once in our lives....."Oh, how I do wish that I may some day win the lottery...oh, how I do wish...". And perhaps we've all thought that our lives would be better if we did win the lottery, and perhaps it would be true. But of course, we'll never truly know until we win that sought-after 'pot-o-gold' at the end of the rainbow we call chance, or maybe luck.....For some, it might be true that our lives would be better with a shit-ton of readily-available cash to spend willy-nilly on whatever our hearts desire. But it's also true for others that life will just get worse. Today, we will focus on three people who "won" the lottery but the outcome was anything but a "better life". CONTACT USEmail:        paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter:      @paranaughtica Facebook:    The Paranaughtica Podcast  If you’d like to help us out with a kindly donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on our page and you’ll see a button to help us out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. If you’re not listening on Spotify, you can:    Ko-Fi:  Help us out by donating to the podcast through either a 'one-time' donation or a monthly donation. You can find our Ko-Fi at our Facebook page!     Paypal:  Donate through Paypal to help out the show! You can find our Paypal at our Facebook Page!What do you get out of helping us out with the show!? You get consistent quality content, and also some super cool stickers. We’re also working on other merch, such as coffee mugs, t-shirts, etc. with awesome original artwork. We are forever grateful for our faithful listeners and supporters.  Sources:⁠https://www.the-sun.com/news/7901214/lottery-winner-hits-jackpot-ends-life-years-later/ ⁠⁠https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/april-2013/poison-lotto/⁠⁠https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tragic-story-uks-youngest-lottery-29298065⁠⁠https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11784747/Britains-youngest-lottery-winner-blew-1-8M-jackpot-training-nurse-aged-34.html⁠⁠https://www.freshedits.com/spotlight/lottery-gone-bad-the-true-story-of-one-unfortunate-lottery-winner/43.html?br_t=ch⁠Tres Por Tres stories:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/16/bucks-county-flooding-pennsylvania-upper-makefield/70417889007/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/72-earthquake-alaska-coast-triggers-brief-tsunami-advisory-rcna94503https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/bidens-nibble-on-young-girl-just-his-latest-weird-interaction-with-other-peoples-kids/news-story/ae01789358678c69fb5d82593a974838 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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That Napoleon Bonaparte's penis was sold at an auction in Paris for $3,000.
Oh, man.
That's crazy.
I mean, I knew his name was Bonaparte, but I never really...
You know what I mean?
I never really took it literally.
Yeah, man.
So, for only $3,000, the lucky bidder was able to bring one of the world's most enigmatic political and military leaders' dicks home with them to put on private display.
Eh, more like, uh...
Privates display.
You know what I mean?
Privates. Hey!
No, but seriously, that's really crazy.
I mean, I guess...
I mean, it's no surprise that people are into oddities.
I mean, you know, humans have a long history of being into odd and kind of weird things, but that's a good one right there.
I don't know if I would keep a peanut.
Maybe I will.
Not a famous person, just like a regular...
Just a random dude.
Yeah, right, totally.
I mean, at least that's a conversation starter, right?
Like, hey, by the way, I've got Napoleon Bonaparte's dick, you know what I'm saying?
Like, that's pretty crazy.
Yeah, so apparently, way back when the dastardly dictator died on May 5th of 1821 on the island of St. Helena, about 1,200 miles southwest from the coast of Africa, the island was a
Ah, yes.
Nothing too serious or anything.
But I think it was something called the Battle of Waterloo.
Or, I mean, something that happened on June 18th of...
1815, between Napoleon's French army and the Duke of Wellington's British army.
I think it lasted something like 23 years?
Something like that?
Yeah, yeah.
It put a stop to Napoleon's attempt to dominate Europe, actually.
And the conditions were horrible, man.
His army was super weak.
His officers were just incompetent.
And his tactics were completely inferior, as was his member.
Oh! Well, he did well for a while.
Really made a name for himself, though.
Right, right.
He had the old Napoleon Complex.
Very aggressive man.
They say he was overcompensating for his short stature.
He was anywhere from 5 feet 7 inches or 1.7 meters and 5 feet 10 inches or 1.78 meters, which honestly isn't really all that short, to be honest, especially back then when people were kind of shorter on average from what I remember being taught in school anyways.
Sure. I mean, Tom Cruise is, I think, 5 foot 7 or 1.7 meters.
Yep. Danny DeVito, my man!
Shout out to Danny.
Danny! Yeah, he is 4'10", just to put it in perspective.
Right. So the Napoleon Complex wasn't due to his height.
Oh! You're changing the record on that right now?
I am.
Okay, so what was it referring to then?
Well, as I was saying, when he died, his doctor apparently chopped the little bone apart in front of 17 witnesses.
Whoa! 17 people saw it.
Well, yeah.
17 people saw it.
I don't know how that was recorded, but apparently 17 witnesses were there.
Alrighty. Yeah, so sometime later, a priest acquired it, who then performed on the little bugger, right?
Gave him the last rites.
It was then handed off to a family called Vignoles, I believe.
And after that, it was bought by an American books dealer, ASW Rosenbach, in 1924.
He then sold it to a collector of sorts, and I'm not sure what he collected, but he's collecting penises.
Well, I was going to say, hopefully he didn't collect those, because that would be weird and just, like, an odd thing to have to keep track of and, like, catalog and, you know, make a whole index for, you know?
Man, yeah, people do it.
I mean, if it can be collected, people will collect it.
I mean, in fact, there is a penis museum in Iceland that some guy started because, as he put it, somebody had to do it.
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, it's another box to check, so to speak.
Yeah, check that one off, man.
So I guess there are 300 severed penises from over 100 species of mammals.
And in 2011...
The first human penis was added.
Apparently it came from a guy that self-castrated himself, which, you know, we know there are groups of these people, as we mentioned in previous episodes.
Oh, yes.
The old eunuch makers.
So messed up, dude.
Yeah, man.
Yeah. So this guy who started the museum, he was first given a cattle whip made from a bull's penis when he was a kid.
From there, his interest in penises never stopped growing.
Well, I suppose I'll...
Just jot that down in my manual of things not to do moving forward in the future.
He's got lampshades made from scrotums.
Oh yeah, he's definitely like the Ed Gain of all things cock and balls, you know?
Yeah. Just hopefully he hasn't murdered anyone for the prized possessions.
I mean, I'd be pissed.
I mean, you'd be dead.
I mean, yeah, but I'd still be pissed.
Alright. Yeah, so this museum also has big ol' veiny shafts from elves and trolls, bro.
No way, dude.
No, I'm just gonna call BS right there.
That's what they say, but it's Icelandic folklore.
So, I mean, these creatures, as they say, are invisible.
Can you imagine if they weren't invisible, though?
Like, if we could just see them in everyday life?
I guess we'd have to get used to it, like everything else.
That'd be weird, at first.
These large, veiny...
Shaft elves and trolls running around.
It's like, get out of my way!
Took one to the eye earlier.
Ow. Back to Napoleon's dick.
So this collector's name was Donald Hyde, but despite having a name, his wife apparently didn't like it or wasn't impressed with it.
She therefore gave the sad thing to a man named John F. Fleming after Donald died.
Then, through a failed auction through the famed Christie's Auction House, it was passed on to a John Latimer, who would eventually purchase the old twig minus the berries in 1977 for $3,000.
That's quite a journey, man.
I think it's safe to say that his dick saw more of the world than he did.
That's probably true.
And according to independent.co.uk, Napoleon Bonaparte's bite, or ZZ, or wand, or birch, whatever you want to call it, Yes, the cue or the stick, right?
Yeah. It was measured at 1.5 inches or about 3.8 centimeters.
Hmm. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Hmm. But let's keep in mind...
It's aged quite a bit.
True, which, you know, that doesn't do any of us any favors, you know what I mean?
But I'm sure it's been preserved in, what, formaldehyde or something like that?
Well, actually, formaldehyde wasn't even used until 1859 when it was accidentally discovered by Russian chemist Alexander Mikhailovich Butlerov.
So it was most likely kept in, like, straight alcohol and most likely transferred to formaldehyde.
I don't know.
All right.
I'm sure a certain amount of, you know, shrinkage would have occurred, both from the pickling that it underwent.
And then also just good ol' father time itself.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man.
So, there was a documentary called Dead Famous DNA that aired on Channel 4, which is a British television station, that described it as very small and measured only one inch or 2.5 centimeters.
Again, shrinkage, right?
Yeah, I mean, cut the guy some slack.
He's dead, after all.
Yeah. You know?
The dictator's penis would then be put up on display in 1927 at the New York City Museum of French Art for a little while, where it would grow on many people's curiosities, and one witness of the viewing would go on to describe it as being similar to a quote-unquote maltreated strip of buckskin shoelace.
Well, that's just something I hear every day, so, you know.
Just walking down the street, a couple people pass you, and you just hear them say, he looked like a maltreated strip of...
Buckskin shoelace.
Did you see that?
Yeah. Hell yeah, brother.
That's how you get a thick skin.
So another witness would say it looked like a, quote, unquote, piece of leather or a shriveled eel.
And Judith Pascoe, with the New York Times, described it as, quote, barely recognizable as a human body part, end quote.
I mean, it'd be hilarious if they were just assigning value to some random object that they grabbed, you know, like this whole time it's been like an ox toe or something.
And they're just like, oh yeah, it's Napoleon's penis!
You know what I mean?
How easy would that have been?
Right. Yeah, well Scott, you know, I think it's time to give you the spotlight so you can present to the world your maltreated strip of buckskin shoelace that holds the secrets to the universe.
That's right, guys and gals.
It's time for Trey for Trey.
Trey for Trey.
Excellent. Yeah, speaking of, you know, curiosities and oddities, and our first story actually takes us to a bit more of an advisory.
Have you been hearing about these huge storms in the East Coop?
A little bit.
I know there's some flash flooding going on, right?
I mean, is there?
Ever, bro.
So normally I fill up these stories with strange and crazy things, but I mean, I guess this is kind of crazy in a way, but these flash floods have been taking place all over the East Coast.
New York, Pennsylvania, for example.
And this first trip or trip actually comes to us from usatoday.com.
Out of Pennsylvania, a flash flood.
Recently, five were killed, two missing.
I mean, the death toll is rising.
People are being displaced.
Tons of property damage.
Vehicles swept away.
But yeah, it's catching people off guard, man.
That's insane.
And this isn't a normal thing in that area of the East Coast, right?
These crazy flash floods.
It's definitely the worst that it's been seen.
I mean, this is just a report out of Bucks County.
But I guess these people were all found outside of their vehicles.
So they were trapped.
Their vehicles got into a place where they couldn't.
You know, get free from and just the water took them.
And I guess in some places the water is even reported to have been five feet above the roadway.
So this is deep stuff.
Yeah, deep stuff.
Man, so I guess I'm reading here a nine-month-old boy and his two-year-old sister was swept away.
Yes, so there's plenty of people actually that are missing.
You know, they're unaccounted for, which is understandable considering the degree of these floods.
But the rain has just not let up and it's just created these raging rapids, as the article goes on to describe them, out of just these creeks.
Like, normally you've got these peaceful creeks and they're just turned into these danger water traps these days.
So, yeah, we'll be paying attention to how that's that ongoing situation.
There's also a tornado warning issued.
For the Massachusetts-New Hampshire border as well.
Yeah, I'm not at all surprised.
They say they've grounded over 1,300 flights just in the last day because of this potential impact of this new wave of storms.
So it's far from over.
And speaking of which...
Our second trade-for-trade comes to us from www.msn.com.
This was posted 16 hours ago.
Apparently, the East Coast isn't the only place that's getting hit with weather happenings, or potentially anyways.
Apparently, in Alaska, late last night, a 7.3 magnitude earthquake was pinged just a few miles off the coast.
That's a big earthquake.
That's a big one.
That's huge, and not too far off the coast.
No, so in light of that, U.S. officials issued an official tsunami warning for Alaska.
The aftershocks apparently were felt well inland and in the island chain as well.
Yes, throughout the Aleutian Islands and the Cook Inlet regions.
Yes, yes sir.
But the warning, as usual, just warn people to get away from coastal waters, move to higher ground, keep inland, and stay away from the coast until local officials say that it's safe to return.
That's crazy.
I was doing some research on tsunamis that happened throughout history in Alaska because there's an area of coastline where these scientists were studying and it showed way up the coast into all these trees where people would potentially live.
Every couple hundred years or so, a huge flood will hit that area, like massive area.
And it only happens every couple hundred years for some reason.
Interesting. Yeah, they were able to study core samples in the sand and stuff up into where the flooded plane would be, I guess.
And they were able to, I guess, study the time periods of layers of the sand, you know?
Yeah. And so it shows like every couple hundred years, a massive tsunami will hit that area.
And we're like in that time period right now.
Whoa. That's crazy.
I believe it.
I mean, it's a well-known area apparently by the Aleutian Islands and the Alaskan Peninsula and even the Cook Inlet regions.
There's just like a hotbed of different tectonic features that cause these phenomena.
So that's a situation we'll definitely be following.
Be safe out there, Alaska listeners.
Yes. Get away from the coast.
Don't be out there surfing.
No. Get off your boards.
Speaking of cruising for a bruising, this last Trey for Trey comes to us from www.news.com.
And I think you probably heard about this, man, but apparently old Joe Biden has been a nibbling.
Oh, man.
He's been a nibbling.
He's nibbling left and right.
Yeah. Yes.
If you haven't heard, during a press conference in Finland, Old Joe Biden was...
I think his name is Joe Bighton.
Oh, old Joe Bighton appeared to be nibbling on the shoulder of a small little girl who was being held by her mom at the time during his departure from a Helsinki airport.
Yeah, dude, that's so weird.
He leaned into the little girl's face and he started nibbling up on her neck and stuff.
Yeah, dude.
So weird.
He's almost 81. Yeah, dude, the little girls are scared.
Totally. I mean, this comes on the heels of several compilations that have been made on the internet where Biden is seen caressing, touching, kissing on the head like a number of small children at various White House events that's got people scratching their heads going,
what's going on, old Sleepy Joe?
Whispering in the girls' ears saying, ooh, I like kids more than I like people.
Yeah. Yeah, and so there's this Republican operative named Greg Price, and he made a joke.
Because you know how Joe Biden, he loves ice cream, right?
Yes. Always eating ice cream.
So this Greg Price, he joked that, Biden is now confusing babies with ice cream cones.
Oh, man.
Dang. It's not...
Anyone can just go to Google, go to Reddit, and just search up weird Joe Biden moments or something.
And, oh my god, it's a plethora of weird shit.
Yeah, well, it's...
I think people are starting to take notice more and more.
So, you know, we'll see.
We'll see what the future holds.
Inform yourself.
That's the President of the United States.
Yeah, do it.
Do it, people.
If you haven't...
Inform yourself.
And that's it for that Trey for Trey.
Come back next time for everybody's favorite segment.
Hey, man.
Scott. Hey, Scott.
Yo. Yeah, I'm here.
What's up, man?
Yeah, let me ask you a question.
Yeah. Can I ask you a question?
I wish you would.
Yeah, I wish you would ask me.
If you won the lottery tomorrow, what would be the first thing that you would think about?
Not do, but think.
Huh. Well, because I've actually given this quite a bit of thought.
I believe the first thing I would think is, all right, it's time to get a hold of that lawyer.
Yeah. I mean, you know, just because people, you know, and a lot of people say this, I don't know if they do it, but I feel like you're going to need to figure out some privacy immediately.
Yes. You know, because your name is about to be blasted everywhere, right?
So you have to take some steps.
You have to take some steps and limit.
The social damage that can occur.
Because you don't want to just get out in a big blurb.
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
A lot of people like to have their name out after they win.
Hell no!
Look at me.
I'm rich now.
Not at all.
You just made yourself a target.
Yeah, exactly.
The media is going to make the first move if you're not ahead of the game.
So yes, I think the first thing I would think is, well, it's time to talk to a lawyer.
Lawyer up.
Yeah, so like...
Your entire mentality would change.
Just say, all of a sudden, $20 million in your bank account.
The mental stress immediately, because that's a heavy thing.
You're like, oh, what the...
All right, so how do I manage my emotions?
You have to ground yourself in a situation like this.
Exactly. You have to come back down.
Because you've just been handed a life-changing.
Your situation has just instantly changed.
So what would be the first thing that you would do?
Let's say that you have the $20 million after taxes, just sitting safely in your bank account, you know, a modest amount.
Oh, man.
What would be the first, like, huge purchase or whatever?
Gosh. That's maybe, probably, I'd probably think about where I wanted to set up my home base.
You know, that would probably be the first thing that I would, the first move I would make would probably be a literal move.
Like, where do I want to carry out the majority of the rest of my days?
Would you like it a private place, like up in a mountain somewhere far away from people, so you have a good view of people that are going to be creeping up on you, trying to, you know...
You know, that's wise, but honestly, probably not.
I'd probably rather be...
I'm connected, at least in some, like, to a nearby civilization so that I didn't have to go too far to get supplies and whatnot.
But I would isolate myself probably with a land barrier of some kind.
How about...
So I would have some kind of property.
How about, like, just a nice suite at the top of, like, at the very top, like the Trump Tower, right?
You just have the whole top floor.
Trump Tower, that's yours.
No, not that much civilization, bro.
That's too much civilization there.
You don't think that maybe, though.
Maybe you would chase your childhood dreams of being the rock star you always wanted to be.
Oh, man.
Hey, by the way, not just the childhood dreams.
I'm talking like middle-agehood dreams as well.
I'm still eagerly sending my mixtapes to all the producers, bro.
Okay, yeah.
I can see them receiving a cassette tape in the mail.
That's classic.
But maybe you'd want to give most of your money away to a charity.
Perhaps you'd donate it to your favorite political campaign.
Or maybe you would use it to battle your arch-nemesis, climate change.
Oh, finally!
A weapon in the fight against climate change.
Yeah, 20 million bones.
Maybe you could be that crazy climate change girl sidekick in saving the lives of 8 billion people.
You know, man, no.
I'm just gonna...
I'll just crush that little dream right now.
That's not going to be happening.
Did you know, man, her full name is Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernemann Thunberg?
Whoa! No, I did not know that.
You can't even abbreviate that.
Anyway, maybe you'd give it to a church.
Hmm. Maybe a portion of it, but...
I mean, there's a lot of steps here.
This is a multifaceted thing, right?
There's a lot of things to figure out.
A lot of weights, a lot of scales need to be balanced, you know?
Alright, you said you might give a little bit to church.
Like, what, Scientology?
No, not the Church of Scientology, bro.
What are you going to do?
You've been trying to peg me for years, man.
I guess you'll just have to wait and see, man.
I'll let you know when I win 20 mil.
Yeah, alright.
All right.
All right.
Southern Baptist Church.
Who knows?
I don't know.
Maybe you just do the usual thing that happens far more often and spend it on multiple properties without having any idea of how property tax or the homeowners association works or having a financial advisor on your side.
Even though those people are just slithering snakes who they can't be trusted either.
Exactly. Yeah.
I would just spend all $20 million just like right away.
You know, on like multiple properties.
Multiple properties.
Yes. Multiple properties.
All over the country.
All 20 million gone.
And then, yeah.
I would just take out loans.
Oh, man.
Actually. Just mortgage after mortgage, too.
Until it's all gone.
And then what do you do?
Then you can't pay the mortgage.
You can't pay the bills.
And all your properties get fucking taken.
Yep. Repoed.
And you're left with nothing.
And obviously, you know, you'd have to buy a bunch of shiny cars and motorcycles, even though you don't ride them or know anything about them.
And of course, buy a bunch of useless, meaningless jewelry and designer clothes.
Well, we know what Wayne Dale would buy at least.
Yeah. Nothing but useless and meaningless jewelry.
Yeah, I can see him buying like three mobile home parks, a monster truck, nothing but designer wife beaters with those prefab stains.
And yeah, man, a shit ton of jewelry for sure.
But he'd probably buy it from people off the streets, you know?
To have it and like, hey, hey, come here.
I got some jewelry.
You want to see it?
You know?
One of those people.
And he would stay away from like signing documents and shit.
Because he's crazy like that.
A limo monster truck, dude.
I could see him buying one of those.
Oh, yeah.
And probably living in it actually.
Just like up in his palace above everyone else.
Like the sinister egg-shaped Nero that he is.
Egg or pear?
But yeah, I can see it.
It definitely, I can definitely see that happening.
And you know, he wouldn't give any handouts to us.
Right. We would be the last thing on his mind as he guzzles Natty Ice by the gallon.
He just gets a little Natty Ice factory like a distillery near him.
Tossing Benji's to his harem of strippers that live in different sections of the little monster truck.
Yeah, for sure, dude.
He couldn't choose a worse beer to like, though, man.
He would kick us to the curb in a heartbeat.
And we would never hear from him again.
You know that's how he drinks beer, right?
Just drinks it out of a gallon jug?
I do, I do, yes.
I think he's got one up there in the sound room.
Yeah, that's the rumor.
I should inform the listeners that our producer, Wayne Dale, well, first, yes, he likes the worst beer, or one of the worst beers known to man.
And second, this motherlicka would go to Wally World.
That's Walmart, by the way.
His favorite place to go at any hour of the day or night.
And he will buy like 824 packs of natural light.
And then he will take an empty gallon jug from like his whole milk or whatever.
Without even rinsing it out.
Yeah. It's gross.
I was just...
Oh, sorry.
And without even rinsing it out to get the milk remnants, he will pour individual cans of Natty Ice into the gallon until it's full, and that is how he drinks it, man.
That is no joke, man.
That's completely true, ladies and gentlemen.
He'll seriously walk around wherever and just chug out of this gallon joke of Natty Ice.
It's pretty horrible.
Pretty? The guy is a nutcase.
Crazier than a coconut, man.
True, true.
He's out there.
Tinfoil hat?
We're talking tinfoil balaclava.
Oh yeah, dude.
Wrapped up.
Yes. Well, alright, let's get into this.
Let's talk a little bit about a gal named Callie Rogers.
Callie Rogers was only 16 years old when she won the United Kingdom's lottery back in 2003.
The amount this teenager won was the equivalent of $2.3 million in 2003.
Callie was making around $5 an hour at the time working as a checkout girl.
At this little co-op.
And how do you say this name, Scott?
You know, Cockermouth?
Yeah, I think that's Cockermouth Cumbria in the UK, right?
Yes, yes, thank you.
I'm having a hard time pronouncing things, as usual.
Yes, thanks for making me say that.
That's great, man.
Appreciate it.
Well, alright.
Look, she was working in Cockermouth Cumbria.
There, I said it.
And living with her foster parents.
They were also living on government assistance.
Now, man, imagine only being 16 years old, making $5 an hour, your family's relying on government assistance to get by, and you all of a sudden become a millionaire.
And it isn't just your family winning the money.
It's you.
You are winning the money.
It's all yours.
Man, I mean, if that's the situation that I was in, I probably wouldn't know what to do.
But as you can imagine, all of a sudden, you become this local celebrity.
People who would never have come up and talked to you are now trying to be your best friend.
Yeah, I mean, for sure.
So, like, people are hearing about this.
I mean, obviously, like, everyone's going to know your name and where you're at.
And you just can't trust, like, the first, even the first person that comes up to you.
And, I mean, then you got family calling and they're like, oh, is it true?
Is it true?
You know what I mean?
So, that'd just be so much to deal with right out the gate.
Yeah, all these people just flocking to, ugh, so fucked up how humans have this predator part of the brain, like reptilian brain, you know, the super primitive part, just the very basic basis of our being, you know, basic level of consciousness.
It's related to just being territorial and our sexuality, hunger, thirst, memory, and all that shit.
That predatory part that is much more prevalent in some people, right?
Those who are always plotting and manipulating and waiting for people to let their guard down, they're keen on seeing this weakness in other people.
Yeah, so speaking of that, do a little miniature deep dive on this.
There's a man, I don't know if you've heard of him, his name is Robert D. Hare.
And he's a Canadian man, but more importantly, perhaps, perhaps more importantly than being a Canadian, is that he is a very well-known and well-respected forensic psychologist.
True. So he is most known for his work in criminal psychology and is or was a professor emeritus of the University of British Columbia.
I think he's still there.
He's like 90 years old now at this point.
But he specializes in psychopathology and psychophysiology.
And what the hell are those you ask?
Well, that's a good frickin' question, bro.
Coop, what are those, man?
Why don't you lay it down for us?
You're putting that on me.
Yeah, I'm gonna have you step up to the podium at this point.
Oh, fuck.
Yep. Alright, alright.
Okay, yes, two of our favorites.
So, okay, psychopathology is a study of abnormal cognition, behavior, and experiences which would appear to differ from what is typically considered to be the social norm at any particular time in any particular era.
It is an interdisciplinary area of study which includes clinical psychology, which is human science, behavioral science, theory, and clinical knowledge, all utilized to understand, prevent, and relieve psychologically-based distress or dysfunction.
It also includes abnormal psychology, which is the branch that studies unusual behavior, the shit we like here on this podcast, or unusual emotion or thought and can be understood in theory to be a mental disorder.
Then there is social psychology.
This is the study of how our thoughts, our feelings, and behaviors are influenced by real or maybe even imagined people or presences of other people around us.
Whoa. Okay.
Well, there's a lot to unpack there for sure.
And there's also the area of developmental psychology, which is the study of how and why we grow and change and adapt throughout our entire lives.
And shit's really interesting, man.
If you really look at yourself and who you are and where you started and who you become and where you end up, it's just crazy.
Yeah, I mean, it's the age-old discussion of nature versus nurture, right?
So you have all of the things around you that you've responded to shaping who you are and how you react, but then also your just natural brain chemicals and your proclivities towards acting in certain ways, holding on or letting go of certain ideas.
And it's just, I mean, there's so much to it, and it's such an interesting mix.
It's very interesting.
It's very dynamic.
And don't they say, like, by the time you're six, that's kind of who you are personality-wise?
I believe there's a branch of behavioral study that does say that by the time you're six or seven years old, you're pretty much who you're going to be for the rest of your life.
Also, Modest Mouse, Isaac Brock, made the lyrics...
I'm the same as I was when I was six years old, so shout out to Isaac Brock.
I mean, from the mouths of masters.
Absolutely. But there are also various other studies involved, of course, such as psychiatry, criminology, social work, sociology, epidemiology, neuroscience, and statistics, and some other cool stuff.
What was that other one?
Psychophysiology? Yeah, so psychophysiology is a branch of psychology and is concerned with the physiological steps of the physiological processes.
This includes conducting EEGs or electroencephalography or neuroimaging such as magnetic resonance imaging or MRIs or position emission tomography or PET scans and also neurochemistry.
Moving on, though.
And so, Robert Hare...
He is the man who developed the Hair Psychopathy Checklist, or the PCL, revised, which is widely, if not solely, used to assess people's psychopathy in the United States and Canada.
And what is psychopathy?
Well, I didn't think you were ever going to ask, Coop, but...
I wasn't.
Psychopathy is synonymous with sociopathy and is characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, egotistical traits, impaired empathy and remorse, You know, people who do not care about others and or the consequences of their actions, right?
They see other people as nothing more than objects for their own manipulation and enjoyment, even if it means murdering them, bro.
Right. And to them, other people have no inherent value.
There's no more important than your average pet.
Or squirrel.
Don't forget the squirrels.
Oh man, never forget the squirrels.
True. So the PCL, or the Hair Psychopathy Checklist, is what the FBI uses in their Child Abduction and Serial Murder Investigative Resources Center, or CASMRC.
It's also used throughout the prison systems to assess inmates all throughout the U.S., Canada, and Britain.
Despite Mr. Robert Hare having his own reservations about doing so, because this research was not designed for use outside of controlled experimental research, and here it is in broad application in areas where it was never meant.
I think they were just like, does anybody have some kind of system?
Oh, here's a system.
Yeah, let's use it.
Yeah, let's just use it and never change it.
Never mind what it was meant for.
It doesn't matter.
Exactly. It's considered to be the gold standard for measurement of psychopathy.
It does have its criticisms, of course.
I'm curious as to why it's still the gold standard.
You'd think something much more fine-tuned and accurate would have been developed by now, considering it's been used for so long, like over 40 years, and science has improved vastly over that time.
You know, leap years in comparison to the 40 years previous to that.
For sure, for sure.
I mean, and I think a huge part of that is who's willing to champion those issues?
Not too many people, right?
Because, like, a lot of people aren't even aware that that's something that happens.
So, hey, maybe we're doing our part by bringing some public awareness to it.
I hope so.
I mean, that's what this podcast is all about, bringing public awareness to whatever the hell we're talking about.
So, ladies and gentlemen, why the hell are we talking about this?
We're not sure.
But we think it has something to do with the fact that people with certain mentalities become horrible people when someone wins the lottery.
Yes, yes.
Way to bring it full circle.
Back to our original topic.
People win the lottery.
Some people's predacious reptilian brain kicks on and says, oh, I want a piece of that.
How can I get some of that for myself?
Yeah. Robert Hare actually wrote a very popular book, one that is a must-read for anyone pursuing a career in psychology.
It's also a bestseller, published in 1993.
It's called Without Conscience, The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us, which was reissued in 1999.
And in that book, Mr. Robert Hare describes a psychopath as a social predator, pointing out that most do not kill people.
He said, like all predators, they are looking for feeding grounds.
Wherever you get power, prestige, and money, you will find them.
If that's not right on point, I don't know what it is.
No, I mean, I think that's exactly what we're talking about here.
And he would go on to say, Without the slightest sense of regret.
Right, right.
So in the context of our broad idea that we're sort of bringing back to a modicum of specificity, these are some of the people that anyone who suddenly wins the lottery would have to worry about.
Social predators.
So without getting too deep in the weeds there, let's just move away from rubber hair and get back to this 16-year-old Callie Rogers.
So she's 16 in 2003, so she's about 36 years old today.
But Callie just won about $2.3 million.
So what happens?
I'm going to guess not great things.
So immediately, people start coming to her from the woodworks attempting to be her best friend, predators in weight.
And about this, she would say, quote, Suddenly, I was a local celebrity and people would come up to me in pubs as if they were my best friend and I felt pressure to buy them all drinks.
I didn't know who to trust.
I mean, yeah, I could definitely see that.
At the bare minimum, that's something that's going to happen, right?
People want free shit from you.
They come up to you like, hey man, buy me that.
You have money.
Yeah, exactly.
But she realized much too late that she was targeted by people.
Sure, like at first as a 16-year-old, maybe she thought the celebrity was cool.
Oh yeah.
But then quickly, it's like, dude, I don't know these people.
This is getting exhausting.
Yeah, but to add to all of this, man.
So within weeks of winning the money, she met a dude named Nikki Lawson who would become the father of her two eldest children and would move into a 180,000 pound home or about 224,590 US dollars.
Oh, naturally.
Oh. No, I mean, you know, the way she coped with that, it's really interesting.
That's what I meant, the way people cope with different problems in their life.
Come on!
Oh, man, alright, you're right.
Psychopathology, bro, it's extremely interesting, and not just the way people cope with problems, but the ways people cope with successes as well.
It goes both ways.
For sure, of course, because all successes can be a problem, and all problems can be turned into successes.
Is this a Bob Ross show?
What's going on?
What did I come up with that?
Those aren't mistakes.
Those are birds.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, let's go.
What else do you think a 16, 17-year-old girl with a couple million free dollars would do?
Obviously, I'm just taking a stab here, but, you know, the cosmetics, designer clothes, maybe some fake friendships, maybe a nice car, a Malibu, maybe a Malibu.
I bet she went out and bought herself a 2004 Chevrolet Malibu.
But no, she would buy some cocaine.
Oh! Well, I forgot about that.
I mean, you kind of have to, right?
It's sort of an unwritten rule that if you win the lottery, you have to buy a bunch of coke.
It's just sort of...
It's in the fine print.
I've read it, actually.
Right. So, she would go on to buy over 250,000 pounds, money-wise, or about 310,000 US dollars in cocaine, which is just...
Absurd! Not so much!
So much.
Here's a couple facts about cocaine.
In 2018, one kilo of cocaine, or about 2.2 pounds, sold for around 1,700 U.S. dollars, or about 1,400 pounds, in Colombia, the source.
But in the U.S., that price would be between 4,000 and 45,000 U.S. dollars.
In the United Kingdom, the price was between 40,000 and 70,000 U.S. dollars, or 32,000 and 56,000 pounds.
That's insane Skrilla for the Billa.
Yes. Yes.
And I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume that she didn't have the greatest of drug connections, this young teenage girl.
I'm sure she wasn't too savvy.
Way overpaid whoever she got it from.
Oh, for sure.
And the whole chain of command, you know, there were probably like three or four middlemen instead of just the one.
So she's like losing money every step of the way.
I mean, you know, this is what I've heard.
I don't really know how it works, you know.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, we don't know anything about that.
So she said she lived like a rock star.
She stayed up late partying and always had a bunch of random people hanging out at the house, partying all the time, man, having a constant party.
All the usual things an immature young person would do, she did.
But what is important in this story is the fallout.
So one night in 2018, 15 years after striking at Rich, she was attacked by two women on a night out.
Marie Hind, 38, and Jade Quayle, 27, were later arrested for attacking Callie, leaving her unconscious with smashed teeth.
Oh, that's super safe,
but yeah, continue, continue.
They crashed, and...
They crashed the Hyundai Tucson.
She was operating at about 1.20 a.m.
It wasn't a terrible wreck, but the police were on the scene, of course, and placed Callie under arrest.
In her coked-out, drunken mind, she attempted to get out of her handcuffs, and while doing so, the police sprayed her with pepper spray.
And throughout this whole thing, she repeatedly told the officers that she was not the driver and that she was the driver.
So she just couldn't make up her mind.
Ugh, man.
Just coked out, drunk.
Fully. Yeah, fully.
Gnarly. So in the end of it all, about 20 years later, she says she is penniless and living off government benefits with four children.
Man. It could have been all the way up and then just went all the way down.
2.3 mil.
And just, ugh, life got worse.
Yeah. Damn.
Well, that is a stark example of what can happen.
So, now let's talk about Arouj Khan.
And, Scott, why don't you go ahead and take over?
Wow, man!
That's just, like, so kind of you.
I'm giving you the baton.
I ran my lap.
It's your turn.
What, did you just win, like, $2.3 million or something?
I just wanted the Coke.
I said, keep the money.
Give me the Coke.
Yeah, I'll take the kilos.
I'm just kidding, ladies and gentlemen.
We don't do drugs.
We're just joking.
No, no, no.
This is all in good fun.
So, Arouj...
Mr. Aruj Khan was a 46-year-old immigrant from India, owned not one, not two, but three dry-cleaning businesses in Chicago.
This was in 2012, by the way, just to provide some context here.
The man was at a 7-Eleven gas station near Chicago's far north side, and he had purchased a couple of scratch-off lottery tickets, you know, like you do, something he did on the regs like so many other people.
It was definitely a habit at this point for him.
Well, he scratches one off, gets nothing.
Nada. Rips it up.
Garbage. Just throw it on the ground.
You know, just litter.
Scratched off the second one, and holy shit, he looks around.
Blinks a few times.
Becomes confused.
Wait, do that.
Ladies and gentlemen, you can't see, but Scott's actually acting this out as he's reading it.
That's true.
It's true.
I am looking around.
I am blinking a few times, and I'm becoming confused, actually.
I can hear it.
So he looks at the numbers again.
Sure enough.
He had won $1 million.
So let's just calculate that amount due to inflation at this point, even though that wasn't so long ago.
It was still over 10 years ago.
That would be about $87.
No, jokes.
I'm just kidding.
No, I think that's pretty accurate, actually.
$87.24.
Yeah, $1 million after taxes, you come away with $87.
No, but so Aruj Khan, he couldn't believe his eyes.
He submitted the ticket to the cashier to validate it, and he went through all the hoopla that accompanies winning the lottery, and immediately, of course, was placed in front of a television camera with his wife on one side and their teenage daughter on the other, and they were all holding the oversized check for $1 million.
Aruj talked about his plans and what he intended to do with the money.
He not only wanted to help grow his dry-cleaning business, he also wanted to pay off his bills and that festering mortgage.
And he wanted to make a generous contribution to St. Jude Children's Research Center.
Look at those, man.
All nice regular people things.
Yeah, you know, from all the research I've done, all the reading into things, getting the cold, hard facts, when I hear St. Jude Children's Research Center, it just reminds me of all those secretly funded, quasi-secret, top-secret government programs where they experimented on children under the guise of doing something completely innocuous,
but you hear Children's Research Center and all sorts of red flags start going off.
Well, uh...
They didn't, until you just mentioned all those things, so now I have another thing to have nightmares about.
But no, seriously, there was the Montauk project that took place at Camp Hero on Long Island, where mind control experiments were being done, and they were just trying to figure out time travel and psychological warfare.
It's what Stranger Things is actually based off of.
Have you seen that?
Have you checked that out yet?
No, I actually have not seen that.
Is it good?
Have you seen it?
I've heard it's really good.
He definitely just lost points in my book.
So anyways, back to Arouj Khan.
He gave that televised speech and then afterward went on with his life, just taking things a little bit easier, you know, than he had before.
You're about to have a good chunk of cash and life is good.
I mean, you know, right, Coop?
You know what that's all about.
I can't say I know the feeling, but do you go on, please?
Yeah, I thought so.
Anyways, only weeks after doing that televised speech, Arouj Khan would start to painfully convulse.
Vomit some blood, foam from the mouth, and then just fell unconscious.
No good.
He would soon die.
No good.
Yeah. How do you feel about that?
Immediately, he was taken to Cook County Medical Examiner's office, who did some preliminary documentation and a blood test, but nothing came back to officially point to any specific cause of death.
Interesting. There were no signs of trauma on the body either, so the examiner would write it off as a rouge con just having died of natural causes.
Yikes! That's a natural cause?
Painfully convulse, vomit, some blood, foam from the mouth, and then go unconscious?
Yeah! Not any natural causes I've ever seen.
Yeah, definitely.
Was he just rolled in there, and the examiner didn't even look at the body and just asked, okay, what happened?
Tell me what you wish.
And, you know, that just checked all the boxes right there.
That's what it looks like here, so it kind of makes you wonder, right?
Hmm, makes you wonder a hell of a lot.
So there were some grieving relatives, as you'd expect, and at least one of them would plead for the medical examiner's office to take a second look, so eventually the office would be persuaded, somehow, and further tests did show that Roosh Khan was poisoned with infamous cyanide.
It was then that the Chicago police launched a homicide investigation on the spot.
This, of course, set off an international media storm, and one police official would compare it to an Agatha Christie novel.
I'm sure that helped a lot in their investigation.
Yeah, absolutely.
Everyone got a copy of this.
Read Agatha Christie.
Yeah, she does.
So here's an interesting tidbit, actually.
He had made a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, which is required of all able-bodied Muslims, and he had promised himself to give up gambling.
Because, you know, he had the habit of buying these lottery tickets.
So he decided to give it up and live a better life.
But on that one day in 2012, he decided to buy two tickets, striking the million.
On the second.
So after taxes, because of course you don't get the amount that you actually win, out of the million that he had won, he took a one-time sum rather than being paid out over X amount of years, and that came to $600,000, which after taxes was only $425,000.
That's so crazy.
Not even half.
So his brother thinks that the winnings caused some tension within the family, and he believes that it was someone very close to him.
Naturally, the police would suspect his widow, but there was no proof of anything.
To this day, it is actually still left unsolved.
These are intriguing stories, man.
Rags to riches to rag stories are incredible.
More like rags to riches to graves, homie.
Whoa, yeah, that's right.
These, yeah, they're all dying.
Damn. You want to do this next one, too?
You know I do.
So, this next one happened in Pennsylvania.
In the United States back in 1988, William Bud Post III picked up the winning ticket to the $16.2 million jackpot, or 11 million pounds, sterling, in the Pennsylvania lottery and instantly became a rich man.
At the time, Bill Bud Post III had only two U.S. dollars.
We're about 1.59 pounds sterling in his bank account, and he worked various jobs, including being part of a traveling carnival troupe and circuses as well.
Well, that's always fun, man.
That would be a blast, being a carny or whatever, right?
I mean, I'd get fired immediately for just hanging out at all the food tents.
They'd be like, hey, man, you work here.
I'm all eating a turkey leg, like, hey, can I get some more cotton candy?
We've got to let this guy go, man.
He's not doing his job.
He's just eating.
Yeah, he's not over there doing elephant ear cotton candy?
Elephant ear cotton candy?
So Bill won this money and would be awarded $500,000 in annual payments or just under £400,000 which is like, shit man, that's like $500,000 every year?
Could you imagine?
I couldn't live off that.
Yeah, that's not enough.
No, not enough.
Now you've seen the Beverly Hillbillies, right?
Fuck yeah, man.
The Clampetts and Granny.
Hell, good stuff.
Hell yeah.
Awesome show.
Awesome show.
Yeah. And movie.
Real good movie with Jim Varney as Jed Clampett.
The best.
Jim Varney was also everyone's favorite Ernest.
I mean, he went to camp.
He was scared stupid.
He saved Christmas, for Christ's sake.
He even went to school.
Yeah. And he went to Africa and he joined the army.
That's right, and slam dunked in 1995, and even went to jail in 1990, Coop!
Oh, man, bro, yeah, and he was the janitor there, and a great janitor he was, but he also became magnetized, and all the paper clips and shit were flying at him and sticking to him, man, that shit was awesome!
I can't even remember the plots of any of those movies, I just remember bits and pieces, and I remember them being just stupid funny, you know, as a kid, but I'm sure that if I watched them now, I just wouldn't be able to handle it, I would have to walk away.
Oh, totally, it'd be so cringy, I just, like, I couldn't do it.
Good God, we went from the main bit to Beverly Hillbillies to Ernest, man.
Let's bring it back around.
So, a bankruptcy lawyer, and I'm not sure if it was Bill Bud Post III's lawyer or not, but he described Bill Bud Post III.
Quote, like, the Beverly Hillbillies who did everything you would expect of a guy who became a millionaire.
Yeah, he did.
He did it perfectly, too.
Yes, harsh criticism, but within two weeks of seeing that first installment of $500,000...
Oh, and by the way, there would be 26 installments of $500,000.
Just to suck on that for a minute.
Within the first two weeks, he had spent more than $300,000 on all sorts of random shit.
He bought all the usual gifts.
And alcohol, of course.
If you're a drinker, yeah.
Yeah, he was like, you know what, I'll just buy a liquor license and I'll just serve myself.
Why wouldn't you?
Yeah, if you're a drinker, yeah, just go for the liquor license.
Fuck it.
So he would buy a lease for a restaurant.
Can you guess where?
That's right, Florida.
And he would also buy a used car lot.
That's pretty random.
Bro, in the first three months, the dude was already in the tank about $500,000.
But hey, he's got $16.2 million to waste, so let's just keep it going.
True. Yeah, I guess he's not worried.
Well, he should be.
Bill Bud Post III had a brother, and the two didn't quite see eye to eye, you know what I'm saying?
So his brother appears to have been pretty jealous of his bro, Bill Bud Post III, and so he came up with a plan to hire a hitman to take him out!
Jeez, with his own money, too.
And don't forget that the plan included taking out Bill Bud Post III's sixth wife as well.
You can't forget that detail.
Absolutely. Thanks for reminding me and pointing that out, man.
Yes, Bill Budd Post III was married a total of seven times.
But not within just that time span of him winning the lottery, though.
We need to make that clear.
That would just be, wow.
Wow. Yeah, he's just buying wives as well.
So, anyway, as you might expect, the hit did not go according to plan, and his homicidal broha was arrested.
Basically, he attempted...
To hire a hitman.
But then, of course, through the usual watchdog channels and whatnot, he was arrested.
So scary to think that your family member, the person you wouldn't think about, you know, just so easily turn on you like that for just money?
Right, exactly.
Kill you?
I knew you didn't like me, but damn, man!
I wonder if his name, his brother, I wonder if his brother's name's Bill Budpost IV or Bill Budpost II.
I know, I want to know if they were all just named Bill Budpost, like no individuality whatsoever.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Yeah, right.
So our friend Bill Budpost III was undaunted, and he decided that the perfect response to his attempted assassination was to purchase a twin-engine airplane, man.
Why wouldn't you?
That's the go-to coping thing, man.
He did that without having a pilot's license or any knowledge on how to fly it.
Right. He would also buy a mansion for just under 400,000 US or about 318,000 pounds.
So now let's back up a little and talk about the ticket's origin story because it's important.
So before the purchase of the 40 tickets that were bought, Bill Budpost III would pawn a ring for $40.
He would give it to a woman named Ann Karpick, who was his landlady at the time and occasional hookup, by the way.
According to her, they made an agreement to split any winnings, which isn't unlikely considering their relationship.
Totally. Yeah.
So the following year, Anne would sue Bill Budd post third on the grounds that there was an agreement.
The judge ruled in her favor and ordered him to pay her one-third of the winnings, most likely because, you know, there was a monetary sum involved.
And by this time, only one year after winning it, he's already very much in debt, right?
And he refused to turn over any money to Ann.
This resulted in the judge freezing his lottery payments until the issue was resolved.
And it would be resolved eventually, of course, because like I said, there was a monetary installment involved.
Let's go to 1998.
Now, do you think it is a coincidence that 1998 was not only the year that Bill Clinton was getting blowies or whatever else from Monica Lewinsky?
But also the year that Viagra was presented to the world?
Wow. I never would have made that connection, but I feel like you were the perfect person for that.
But as the great George Norrie from Coast to Coast always says, I don't believe in coincidences.
So in 1998, Bill Budd Post III was arrested on his $260,000 or about 205,000 pound sailboat.
On a charge from six years previous, shooting a shotgun at a repo man who went to his mansion to collect some debt.
I'm sick and tired of all these lousy good-for-nothing millionaires feeling they ain't gotta pay for their toys like all the rest of us do.
Really grinds my gears.
Always scutting around the rules, dodging the tax man, funneling money to offshore bank accounts where the U.S. can't touch it.
Oh, uh, hello, Sam.
I'm here to collect out some debt.
Oh, shit!
Is that a shotgun, buddy?
Get off my steps.
Hey, hey, now, hey!
You can keep the damn above-ground pool, buddy.
It's all yours.
I'm outta here.
Ain't no ways I'm missing the b-ball game.
Those nachos my brother-in-law makes?
Man, I'm salivating all over myself just thinking about them.
Oh, look, a squirrel.
Dude just wanted to get home to watch some sports and eat nachos.
He almost made it out, dude.
He could taste that first jalapeno-laden nacho, and then BAM!
And then look, a fucking squirrel distracts the poor guy.
Unexpected. Oh, yeah!
Fucking nachos sound so good right now.
Nachos always sound good, my friend.
So, back to the story.
After his arrest for that, he had to serve between 6 and 24 months in prison.
Later. He was arrested again and ordered to stay away from his sixth wife after shooting a shotgun into her Pontiac Firebird.
No! Not the Firebird.
Yes, and toward the end of his 66 years of life, he was more than $1 million U.S. in debt, or about 795,000 pounds.
He would rely on government assistance and a $450 per month stipend and would pass away on January 15th.
2006. Man, that's brutal.
Seven wives.
Can you imagine?
That's your takeaway of the whole thing.
Guy goes to jail, he's like chasing people around with shotguns.
You're like, man, seven wives.
Can't even deal with one, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and by the way, by the way, they came with nine children.
And that's just from his first marriage, bro.
Yikes. Nine from just his first.
No wonder he was one million dollars in debt.
Jeez. This next story is about Gerald Muswagon.
Coop, tell us about this gentleman here.
Well, I would love to do so.
Gerald Muswagon was a 42-year-old man from Manitoba, Canada, and he won a $10 million lottery jackpot, or about 795,000 pounds, and that was back in 1998.
But with only a few years, he would be penniless and dead.
Well, the story's not looking good so far, I'll tell you that.
No. And this didn't turn out too well for him.
Gerald regularly purchased $2 tickets throughout much of his life.
And on one nondescript day, or perhaps night...
Well, if we're going to be the best podcast there ever was, we need to at least be on the fringes of accuracy.
It was night somewhere.
Yes, and day as well.
So, we're not even on the fringes.
We're directly on the bullseye.
Better than a Bulls member.
But on this particular point in time, he would purchase that winning ticket.
But before he struck it rich, he was making ends meet by working at various businesses, and he had a friend with a farm that he also occasionally worked at.
Gerald and his girlfriend and six children all lived in a decent place in Manitoba, but would immediately purchase a new house.
Gerald was a bit of a partier, though, and that house would quickly turn into a literal party pad where there was always a steady supply of alcohol.
Not to mention various drugs.
He was not only drunk on the booze, but he was also drunk with the intoxicating effect of all of a sudden being extremely popular and getting a ton of attention.
Especially if that's something that you personally seek to have in your life.
But sometimes, as in a lot of the time, all that attention brings some pretty unsavory people into your life.
People that do not care at all about you.
All they care about is being around your money, your wealth, and your metaphorical spotlight.
Unless, of course, you pay someone to always follow you around with one of these spotlights.
True, true.
And be one of those people who pay for fake paparazzi to act like they are hectically trying to outdo each other for the perfect picture as they're walking down the street.
Right, right, exactly.
Just jostling for the best position.
Yes. Anyway, Gerald was kind of one of those people who wanted attention, but once he got it, he kind of went overboard with all of his habits.
And some would say niceness, because he was very generous with his winnings.
He would help his family and his real friends with whatever they needed or wanted.
And those closest to him tried to help him with his decisions, but ultimately those decisions were his own to make.
And on one occasion, one fine day in Manitoba, Gerald purchased eight big screen TVs.
And I'm not sure when he would buy these TVs, but we know that the depth of those early editions of big screens were as deep as they were quote-unquote big.
That's for sure, man.
Bulky sons of bitches.
They were basically a huge cube.
Almost a perfect square, actually.
Exactly. And we know that they were going for anywhere between like 2,000 and 7,000 around 2004 and 2005.
Probably even more.
And certainly more pre-2004, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Which is funny because now they're like a dime a dozen.
Yeah. And Gerald was loving his lavish lifestyle, you know, buying anything he wanted, especially the cars and expensive electronics.
Clearly, being irresponsible with his finances, he decided to invest some of that money into a logging company that he named Gerald's Logging.
Sure, you know, shoot high, or whatever.
You gotta have that catchy title that repeats in people's brains, which keeps them coming back.
Gerald's Logging.
Yeah. Well, this company would flop very soon due to lack of business.
Ah, damn!
Yeah. And after that, he started spending his money more frivolously.
Also, at some point, it seems like he married his girlfriend.
One night in 2000, Gerald would go on a little joyride in his Chevrolet Silverado.
This little joyride would then turn into a police chase, which would then turn into Gerald finding himself in front of a judge.
This resulted in a three-month term in a county jail.
Then, about two years later, he would find himself doing another three-month term for assaulting his housekeeper.
His wife would also die around this time.
After that, he was quickly running out of money.
In fact, he had to go back to working on his friend's farm, doing a lot of heavy lifting and nothing but manual labor.
Seven years after winning $10 million in 2005, Gerald would go to his parents' house where he would then take his own life by hanging himself in the garage.
Oh, man.
So, so far.
I am seeing quite a trend right now.
These people are winning the lottery and nothing good is happening for them.
And in a matter of years, not only has their fortune completely disappeared, but some of them are dead.
Yeah, it's pretty bad, man.
I mean, it doesn't always happen this way, obviously.
Some people win the lottery, they're perfectly fine.
They manage their money and their lifestyle just fine.
But some people just can't do that.
They're incapable of doing those things.
Well, and not only that.
But I think in all of these cases, these people's lives most likely would have just continued as normal if not they had won a large sum of money.
So there were three tales about the most average down-and-out people who amazingly won the lottery, which they thought was going to change their lives for the better.
I mean, everyone thinks that, though, right?
I mean, most people think it would be a good thing.
Yeah. And the lottery did change their lives, but not for the better.
At least there are some cases where it was just an experience that they lived through, and where they are today is no worse than where they were before they won.
Which is still crazy.
I mean, because by all intents and purposes, millions of dollars would be able to change your life far into the future, but a lot of the people just wind up back to where they started.
Yeah, and people can make better decisions, of course, such as not trying to manage all of the money themselves.
Go hire a financial advisor.
As much as they suck, they will help.
It could be a smart move for many people who are suddenly in possession of a shit ton of money.
Yeah, exactly.
And then the hope is that you learn so much throughout the process that you can tell the snake in the grass from the person that legitimately is just trying to do a good job and get more business because they're business-minded.
There are other very important things a person should do when they win the lottery.
According to Forbes, the global media company that focuses on business, investing, technology, entrepreneurship, leadership, and lifestyle…
Just to name a few things.
But at the same time, I do think that they would know.
Yeah. There are 10 things all lottery winners should do immediately upon winning the lottery.
We were lucky enough.
We were lucky enough to get iced.
No, iced.
We were lucky enough to get an Ice-T impersonator to read those ten things.
So, Ice-T impersonator.
That's right.
That's right.
So, Ice-T, what we will do here is I'll list these off like one, two, three, and you'll just read the titles, okay?
Yo, man, don't come at me like that, homie.
Home me.
All right.
Okay, Ice-T.
One. Remain anonymous if your state rules permit it.
See a tax pro before you cash the ticket.
Avoid sudden lifestyle changes.
Pay off all your debts.
Assemble a team of legal and financial advisors.
Invest prudently.
Live within a budget.
Take steps to protect...
Nine. And ten.
Nice. Good job.
So what do those things mean?
We don't know until we win the lottery, right?
And then we can tell you with confidence.
But thank you, Mr. Ice-T Impersonator Guy.
That was really wonderful.
Yeah, really good.
Is there a problem?
Oh, no, no, no.
That was actually done very well.
You got a really great voice.
Great for voice.
Acting. Oh, gee, thanks, man.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Uh, yeah, man.
Okay, guys, thanks so much for letting me do this.
Bye. I love your show, by the way.
Damn. Whoa!
He's a pretty good actor, isn't he?
Yeah, one of the best I've ever seen in my life.
How he's able to switch just, you know, the snap of a finger is just like that to a completely different character.
It's almost unheard of in Hollywood, man.
Nobody does that.
He's going places.
Later, Ice-T impersonator.
See you, man.
And here he was, right in the studio with us just a minute ago.
Cool. That was awesome.
So cool.
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Oh, right.
There is that.
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Stop teen pregnancy.
Yes, that's a good one.
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