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Oct. 23, 2025 - Project Camelot
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3I/ATLAS – Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot THE RETURN…just released oct 22, 2025
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I hope everybody's having a good day.
And if you're new to this show, welcome to the Typical Skeptic Podcast, where we go deep and you decide.
That's the motto.
And today, my guest is a reoccurring guest.
She's been on my show before.
Today, I have with me the amazing legendary Carrie Cassidy of Project Camelot.
And I wrote a blurb about it.
I wrote in this powerful return to the typical skeptic podcast, Carrie Cassidy, founder and CEO of Project Camelot, joins Robert Khalil to break down the latest intel surrounding 3E Atlas, the mysterious interstellar object now rumored to be connected to the return of the Anunnaki.
Carrie will show her latest communications from a private newsgroup involving Richard Hoagland, David Sarita, and other insiders revealing explosive claims that 3E Atlas may be a hyperdimensional craft interacting with Space Force and the secret space program.
Topics will include the alleged kill shot from the sun and how 3E Atlas absorbed it, whether Space Force is actively escorting 3E Atlas through our solar system, the Anunnaki connection and its implications for humanity's future, why Avi Loeb and mainstream scientists may be covering hyperdimensional data, how the secret space program, AI factions, and dimensional portals tie into the unfolding event, and Carrie's urgent message on humanity and how it can prepare and protect itself.
And just a little bit more about my guest, Carrie Wynn Cassidy, is the founder and CEO of Project Camelot, a pioneering media platform that has for over 17 years exposed whistleblower testimony on secret space programs, ET contact, deep state agendas, and black projects.
She's a filmmaker, an author, a speaker, and an investigative journalist known for her fearless interviews with insiders from intelligence, military, and secret space operations.
Her work bridges geopolitics, exopolitics, and consciousness, emphasizing the spiritual awakening required to reclaim human sovereignty.
And you can find her website at projectcamelotportal.com.
Yeah, welcome the amazing Carrie Cassidy, a legend, and one of my favorite people to interview.
But yeah, thanks for coming on, Carrie.
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
Good, good.
So, what's going on?
What's the new intel with 3E Atlas?
I watched your show with David Sarita and Richard Hoagland.
I guess it's supposedly by Mars now.
Well, it wasn't Richard Hoagland, but he was supposed to be on the show.
But Richard Alan Miller.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, you mean Richard Allen Miller?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, you know, I sent you an article that I wrote just yesterday, I guess it was, compiling some data and information.
So people can find that on my sub stack.
And you can find my sub stack by going to my website, which is projectcamelotportal.com and clicking on the social media links at the top.
One of them says substack.
And then you'll get my latest article.
And actually, I'll just pull it up here in the background so that I can put it on the screen if you want, but I don't know if that's necessary, really.
But is that good?
Are you good with that?
Did you read the article at all?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you can, you can add it.
I mean, you want to add it to the screen.
That's fine.
Okay.
Well, anyway, so because there's a, you know, pictures, a lot of pictures, and lots going on.
So Michu Kaku is now weighing in.
I guess it's him.
You know, I guess it's not an AI, Michu Kaku, but and also Elon.
And so they're both saying, you know, this is got to be tech, it's technological.
I think it was Elon that was saying it's got to be intercepted.
I think they already tried to intercept it with a CME.
That was about two weeks ago.
And what happened is it basically was undeterred and appeared to be taking on the, you know, the coronal mass ejection from the sun that was targeted exactly at it.
And I just call it swallowing it.
In essence, taking it in.
And I think that what we're really looking at there is what it's doing right this minute as well when it's behind the sun.
The closer it gets to the sun, which is, I guess it's going to be October 29th, then it's going to be taking in, again, the energy from the sun.
And we know that UFOs go by the sun to fuel up.
This has actually been in the UFO sort of lore, if you want to call it that, for decades, literally.
And John Walson, John Leonard Walson is one person I did link to his pictures that were posted a long time ago on rents showing very huge craft that were basically going up into the sun or close to the sun and seemed to be fueling.
So that's very fascinating and understanding that we're not going to have anything like destructive go on as a result of it getting that close to the sun, which is during what they call perihelium.
And perihelium is on the 29th and today is the 23rd, no 21st.
So very close, right?
And then from the 29th on, I think it's after the 29th, maybe not on that day, we're going to again be able to, in theory, see and be able to photograph from the satellites and various telescopes, even on Earth, be able to see it once again.
But whether that's actually going to happen, because they shut down the government ostensibly because the Democrats were going haywire as usual.
But the reality is that what it did is shut down NASA and its communication link with the outside public, probably out of choice.
So what we're looking at is a massive secrecy.
And Richard C. Hoagland, who I'm in contact with because I'm on a news group with him, and there's a number of scientists as part of that news group.
And he is, you know, kind of cluing us in.
Whenever there's a new picture, he tries to put it on his newsgroup and so on.
So what we're seeing from there is that he's definitely on board with this being an artificial craft.
And that another thing is it's so obvious because even Michukaku and others, Abby Loeb, if you know that particular scientist that's associated with Harvard, in other words, they're both saying that it is choosing its trajectory.
It's been chosen.
Like, you know, rock doesn't choose its trajectory.
A comet doesn't choose its trajectory unless it's thrown like, you know, a bowling ball or something.
So technically, this craft is intelligently driven.
And I think you have to have like no brain at all not to realize that.
So, and I know there are a lot of scientists out there that would disagree with me because they're afraid or they're so programmed by what they've been taught in school since they were young that they can't even conceive of the secret space program and what we're really doing in space, the fact that we have, you know, colonies on the moon and Mars, the moons of Saturn, possibly Jupiter, as well as going outside our solar system.
So you have to understand where I come from as a result of my exposure to whistleblowers for the past 20 years where I did interviews with them.
And all of them who don't know each other primarily would agree, okay, with what I'm telling you, okay, that we have a secret space program, that in essence, it's also a secret government, and it is running our planet.
And it is involved with why I go through this exercise with regard to the Anunnaki.
Okay, so the Anunnaki being mainly lodged in Israel, evidence from even whistleblowers on that, that they are underground in Demona, in charge of the nuclear plant there, Demona in Israel.
And why Israel is such a problem, child, because what we have there is an alien race running the place, that Netanyahu is under orders.
And I have to say, very sadly, that just yesterday, I think it was yesterday, Juan O'Savin came out mimicking Netanyahu saying that Hamas will be destroyed.
So apparently they came across the border and did some kind of incursion, even after the so-called peace agreement.
Well, this is typical.
We expected that, right?
And so what happens is actually, you know, the question is, how can these alien races who have wrapped the humans into their huge battles that have been going on now for centuries and centuries, how can this be sort of brought to a close?
How can there be some kind of agreement?
And then on top of everything, we've got 3E Atlas, which in its trajectory, see, people are saying, oh, it's not communicating with us.
But that's actually not true.
Through its trajectory, which David Serreta has very well through mathematics traced with the help also of Richard C. Hoagland and Jimmy Blanchett.
So the three of them have traced the trajectory.
And you can read David's substack.
He has a substack on Medium, the same Medium is another substack channel, I guess you might say, that Abby Loeb has his channel on as well.
I have a substack that's independent of that.
It's just my substack.
But anyway, just knowing that you can go there to read articles.
I've been posting all day long today because I was out of town doing conferences about a week ago.
So I had to get caught up.
But if you go to my Telegram, I have tons of information on there that I posted today.
So, and also, you know, I post information that comes in through Richard C. Hoagland on the newsgroup and others that say, you know, maybe something interesting or something that I even might disagree with.
And then I say why.
And then, you know, I also post videos like this recent one with Michu Kaku.
And I guess it was something on X from Elon that was like, I think another short video.
And so on, where they're even sometimes these videos have very clear statements that are absolutely wrong.
Okay.
And I think that's very important.
So the one with Elon, for example, and again, go to my Telegram.
And I guess I could share my screen and show you my telegram.
Yeah, you could.
Yeah, maybe that would be helpful.
So hold on one second.
But the thing is that even Elon on, or it wasn't, I don't think it was Elon who said it.
I think it was Michukaku, or it could have been Abby Loeb, but I think it's Michukaku.
That three eye atlas would disappear once it reached perihelion.
Now we're hearing from Michukaku that it's going to disappear after it reaches the 19th of December.
Now, I don't get that, okay?
Because David Serreta trajectory sees it going all the way to Jupiter and beyond.
And that's going to go on beyond December.
So I'm not sure where they're getting their information, what they're talking about, how it's going to disappear, disappear, and so on.
So there may be some cover-up going on with respect to the actual dates when they can track it.
Richard C. Hoagland is a well-known NASA scientist who was known most, I think, for the face on Mars and the investigations he did around that to expose that and show people that it was real.
And so what's happening is he does a weekend show, a radio show that has still pictures.
I don't think it's on video and audio.
It has audio.
And then he has guests and he has people that you can join it and actually watch, you know, be part of the conversation, I guess.
And I'm supposed to do that, except that ever since I got in touch with him a few months ago when this all heated up, he has been barred.
First, they turned off all his internet, everything, his phones, his everything.
And he basically made a big issue with the city and all those utility type companies.
And then they were supposedly fixing it.
So they let it be fixed, I think, during the week.
He is able to text us or email us.
I'm not sure how he's doing that.
Anyway, but every time he wants to go live on his show, he's being barred.
So again, here we, when we approach the weekend this weekend, he's obviously going to be very excited to communicate with the public and tell them what he's seeing and what he knows.
And he is a very interesting man.
And if you're just interested in his background, I did do interviews with him back in the past.
So you can go to the front page of my website where there's a huge search bar right in the front, really, and just put in his first or last name.
And then you'll come on his videos that I interviewed him.
So I was just going to say, I've been a big fan of Richards for a long time.
I know I got them confused earlier because I met Richard Allen Miller.
I've actually interviewed Richard Allen Miller too, but as far as Richard Hoagland goes, I was always a big fan of Art Bell.
I used to listen to Art Bell.
Richard Hoagland, he's been coming on art.
He was on Art Bell for years.
So he's an OG.
He's like a, he's like definitely one of the original people that kind of started doing this, you know?
Sure.
Yes.
And I was also all through the, you know, my younger years listening to Art Bell.
I never imagined I'd be doing kind of the same job.
Anyway, I would say you took it.
The reason why I love your work is because you took it a step further.
Like, you know, where art was kind of, he was, you know, I loved Art Bell, right?
But he wouldn't talk about certain things.
And like when I started watching you, when I was first starting to like wake up and stuff, and like even before that, because I kind of always followed like UFO radio, you know, like I noticed that you were, you were like starting to interview people that like Art Bell never had on, like a lot of the SSP whistleblowers and like, you know, and that, and then that was huge, you know, and people that were a little bit more controversial than kind of what he would cover.
So I would say that you took it to another level in that sense.
Thank you.
Well, I'm glad.
You know, I have a really funny story.
I don't think I have the information in front of me here, but a friend of ours that doesn't know me all that well is kind of getting into this whole sector and started doing his own investigation.
And he went to AI and asked them who I was.
And what came back was like so bizarre.
But it was actually kind of flattering.
And it's just funny, you know, what the AI comes up with, you know, and says that, you know, I'm breaking the paradigm and I'm doing all this, which is true.
In other words, I take pride in doing that.
Some people think I'm crazy.
I get it.
But I really enjoy delving into areas that other people are afraid of and then speaking about it.
So there's a two-pronged thing.
So, and then I also get downloads because that's, you know, part of my confidence that you might detect is that I get my own downloads telling me what's true and what's not true.
And I have these very good, I don't know, you could call them anything you want, instincts or whatever.
What resonates, you know, I can really zero in on that kind of stuff.
And part of this, this is due to the connection of my chakras when I was in my 20s and having multiple samadhi experiences since then.
So it's kind of like that enhances your abilities to tell the truth and from falsity.
And that's what we really want here on earth.
We're all given information.
Some people think they're getting it from God or Jesus or, you know, I don't know, the Pleiadians or whoever you say you're getting it from, right?
But a lot of those people, even though they mean well, are not necessarily telling the truth because they may be getting false information from, you know, false for, you know, negatively oriented ETs that don't have our best interests at heart.
And I'm seeing a lot of that out there right now.
A lot of people are living on, you know, drinking the Kool-Aid, living on hope, you know, wishful thinking, that sort of thing.
And they even, there's a number of people that I've heard just lately that think, oh, these three Atlas has these ETs and they're coming to enlighten us and they're going to, you know, raise our frequency for us.
They're going to do all these things and have us ascend.
And, you know, that's like the last thing that's going to happen.
Okay.
So, because if you know anything about ascension and if you know anything about enlightenment, it has to come from within you.
Okay.
So you're not here on a free ride where somebody's just going to give you something on a silver platter, whether it be God, Jesus, or whoever you think is serving you.
It's going to be your work, your hard work, and your ability to discern.
Sorry, son.
What I was going to say was there's a large part of our community that still doesn't believe space is real.
Not like the UFO community or the SSP, but I'm talking about the consciousness community.
And what I wanted to say about that was, I mean, I happen to be on your side where I believe there's absolutely an SSP.
I've talked to a lot of whistleblowers myself and I feel like there's definitely something going on.
You know, like even like Penny Bradley traces it back to like the way before the 50s, like back to the 1800s and stuff.
You know, it seems like this SSP has been around for like a long time, you know, and they've been lying to us.
And I think Richard Dolan talks about it being like a breakaway civilization almost.
Right.
You know?
And I knew Richard back in the early days and we did discuss that kind of thing at length.
At that time, I wasn't even in Camelot.
So yeah, no, and kudos to him for recognizing that.
And his UFOs in the National Security State, I think it's a two or three volume set I highly recommend because he's basically tracked incoming, you know, UFOs, UAPs, whatever you want to call them, crash retrievals.
And I think it's worldwide and the documented ones.
So Michael Schratt does something similar in case you are familiar with Michael's work.
I work a lot with Michael on various things and have him on my show a lot and so on and so forth.
So that type of tracking and tracing is very valuable to us, the history of ET contact.
And see, people don't, I don't, I don't, I have not understood why people are looking at 3i Atlas and they're going, oh, it's the first time, first contact and all this stupid shit.
Because the reality is that we've been dealing with ETs on Earth from the solar system, from inner earth, from in other dimensions.
You know, going back for our whole history, if you read the Ashanidine Voyager books, it's documented there very, very specifically as to which races came in when and genetically re-engineered us and it has happened over and over and over again.
So we are hybridized in multiple, multiple, you know, millennia, really.
And COVID was just the last effort to hybridize us, by the way, and to link us to what we call, or what I call the Borg AI.
And so this is just an ongoing sort of, we're like a Petri dish of experimentation.
And I imagine other Earth-like planets contain beings that are on a similar trajectory.
Okay.
And that they're always, you know, it's like the creator has an endless imagination and is creating endless kinds of beings, consciousnesses.
Everything's conscious.
Okay.
So plants are conscious.
My table is conscious.
Rocks are conscious.
They have a different kind of consciousness.
Sometimes it moves slower.
Sometimes it moves faster.
You know, water is conscious.
It contains memory.
They've proven that.
Okay.
And, you know, it's just amazing to me that people don't seem to be able to put those things together and recognize what we're talking about.
The planets have consciousness.
Okay.
Stars probably have consciousness.
I mean, in a sense, everything has consciousness.
And it is all part of a plasma system, which is also known as, what do you call it?
It's a Tesla word.
Whatever.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is what we're talking about.
We're talking about humans have these weird ideas.
And I guess they got them partly from the negative races, like the, you know, the Anunnaki that have come here.
Now, there's someone out there that is actually saying, oh, there's good Anunnaki and bad.
And they're very specifically divided.
And I don't see it like that.
My understanding and my information is that the Anunnaki started out as Pleiadians, and then they became a breakaway civilization from that group of Pleiadians.
They went and settled Nibiru and then they were invaded by the Draco-reptilians and hybridized.
So when you understand that trajectory, okay, those are the ones that left the Pleiades.
Okay.
So, and those are the ones that came to Earth under, you know, Enki and Lilin Anu, which is their father, who tried to get himself written into the Bible as God, as who you're going to worship, and all the vindictive stuff in the Bible, all that, that all came from Anu.
And it came from a negative side of the Illuminati at the time, who were being influenced, obviously, and on the negative trajectory.
So that's, you know, if you, it's really important to put these pieces together and understand.
And I realize that it's not easy.
But since I've been doing this for 20 years, I have been able to take a lot of time and talk to a lot of people and, you know, get verification on various topics like I'm talking about here.
Yeah, when it comes to three Eye Atlas, are you saying that the alleged kill shot from the sun and three eye Atlas kind of absorbed it?
Did you get intel on that?
Yeah.
And I'm not the only one who thinks that.
I think even one of the scientists on the Richard Hoaglin, I think they, I don't know if they pointed to another scientist or somebody, but they basically kind of said that what happened was that the solar flare hit it.
As it did, it actually took the particles and, I don't know, broke them down and then I just call it swallowed, but you could say absorb them, you know.
So again, that's a type of fuel.
They view the sun is, we're talking, and I was trying to, the word I was trying to get with Tesla is ether.
So the ether is a plasma field and we are plasma and kundalini activation, which I teach, and links your chakras and it enhances your plasma field, if you will.
And also your qi, as people know in China, and you can actually shoot the qi out from your solar plexus, the center around your belly button.
That you can can actually affect people.
And Duncan O'Finian, a super soldier, used his qi as a super soldier to actually hit a, I think it was, you know, a presidential candidate or something, and shoot him across a saloon bar and right hit him against the wall without touching him.
So qi is the same thing as oregone.
So you got plasma, qi, you know, kundalini.
These are names for what it is is like liquid light.
That's what we're really made of.
Okay.
That's what plasma is.
So, and you know, this whole hyperdimensional solar system that David Serada and Richard C. Hoagland are talking about.
And I think rightly so.
I think they, David and I guess Jimmy Belanchett is also on that page.
This changes the view of our solar system completely and how to view reality even.
Because it's not just that you have a solar system that's hyperdimensional, but we are hyperdimensional.
Everything is hyperdimensional.
In other words, it has a presence, you might say, on this lower level 3D going into 4D Earth, okay, planet, but you can also go hyperdimensional and you're going up through the dimensions.
You're talking about fourth, fifth, sixth, and so on.
So that's what hyperdimensional is referring to.
And I think it would be better if scientists understood this, because we are occupying all those different dimensions simultaneously.
All right.
And so we're not just in this body down on this 3D platform that even flat earthers think is flat.
It's not like that.
They don't understand dimensions.
That's the most, the biggest flaw, I guess you might say, in their argument, as far as I'm concerned.
They do not understand that dimensions and densities are going, you know, dimensions are going horizontal.
And this is where you get the flat earth idea.
And densities are going vertical.
So, and it's the, you know, it's where they cross, right?
The cross.
That's where you get reality or materialization.
So this is what we're talking about.
Yeah.
I wanted to ask you, like, do you, do you believe that we're in a holographic reality then?
That it's somewhat of a simulation, like a biological simulation.
I think it's a massive hologram.
And I think it probably is holograms within holograms.
And by the way, I also think the three-eye atlas is surrounded by a Dyson sphere.
And I posted that on my recent Telegram.
Let me see if I can actually get this on the screen.
So that goes share screen, right?
Okay, one second.
Share a screen.
You can just pop up at the bottom and I'll add it.
Okay.
Yeah, okay, that'd be great.
So I don't know if this is going to be the right thing.
So hold on a second.
I keep getting weird.
I don't know.
Window.
Maybe window is a better one.
You can do like a sharing.
I got it.
There we go.
Can you see that one?
Okay, I'm going to add it right now.
And sometimes it takes slow, but it should add.
There we go.
It should be adding.
I advertise the last thing I posted was our show, you know, where it's.
That's cool.
Yeah, we got a lot of people watching.
We got 350 people and then 80 on Rumble.
So, you know, it's pretty good.
Yeah.
So I, you know, as I said, I've been posting stuff all day on 3i Atlas and you just have to scroll up and see all the stuff in my comments.
And I quote other people.
I give comments as to what I think of what they say.
And I've got, this is David Serada's post on his medium.
And I talk about, you know, just things.
Here's where I talk about the Dyson sphere.
And I quote Captain Mark Richards, one of my main whistleblowers.
Over the years, I interviewed him on a period of five years, 12 interviews.
So those are now a book, you know, two books, a two-book set.
And let me see if it'll go show you this on Amazon.
So these are my books, okay, on Amazon.
And it's showing you only one right now, but you can get both.
And there's paperback as well as Kindle.
So there's this, it, you know, so these are the two books right there.
Can you see that?
Yeah.
It's just showing your camera.
It's just showing about the Dyson sphere.
It's not showing the all right.
Well, all right.
So it's not showing that.
So I guess I'd have to go back and try to, you know, StreamYard is a little bit weird that way.
Yeah, it really is.
It's not as fluid, you know what I'm saying?
But maybe I can, I don't know if this will make any difference.
So I'm stopping the screen and then I'm starting it again and see if it'll share screen, then go to window and then go to, I think this is it.
Is that it?
I'll add it.
Again, it would show Amazon if it's the correct one.
I think you're pulling it up.
It should be adding.
Okay, it's okay.
You mean they can just...
Yeah.
Can you see that?
Whoops.
You have to toggle back over to it.
There you go.
You're on it now.
Okay.
So these are my two books that I just released last week, I think it was.
And now we have a paperback as well as a Kindle.
And so I'm very proud of them.
It is the Mark Richards.
It took me years to do this, but to gel down the dialogue that we had over those 12 interviews and put them into two books.
So, you know, you could just carry that around and read it periodically.
And I think that it would really educate the world.
But, you know, you can't know what's going to happen as far as all that goes.
So is that good?
I mean, did you find like a little rich?
I remove it.
Yeah.
Did you find in Mark Richards' like previous testimonies that he was kind of like hinting towards this three eye atlas or anything like that?
No, but this is the weird dichotomy that I see.
Okay.
We have, like I said, you know, crash retrievals.
They're talking about the UAPs.
They're talking about, you know, Roswell was a crash retrieval.
Okay.
And I have information that says that Einstein was there, by the way, on the scene and other scientists and so on and so forth.
The fact of the matter is, is that that was a crash retrieval.
Those were aliens and there were alien bodies and I think one, at least one survived, which means we've been in communication with aliens, our secret space program, of course.
We made all this secret.
You got to understand.
So from that point on, everything went into secrecy.
And so we have been interacting.
You know, one of the things with aliens is that they decided not to just interact with governments, but to interact with us one-on-one.
And I've been abducted.
I've been in contact with aliens.
I have, you know, good memories of this.
I know that this has gone on with me since, at least consciously that I know of, since I was 12.
So, you know, this is, they've been here forever, and their craft usually go really fast.
They blink in and out of this dimension.
That's what the chemtrails are doing.
They're highlighting the craft coming in through the dimensions so that the secret space program can decide whether they're friendly or not, whether to shoot them down or not.
And according to at least Courtney Brown, our secret space program is controlled by the reptilians and probably the Anunnaki.
And so they're negative based.
Okay.
They're not for humanity and they're not for our secret space program even.
It has been infiltrated since the time when what's his name?
I hate it when I forget names.
I'm really bad on names.
But anyway, since my interviews with William Tompkins.
Okay.
So William Tompkins, he wrote actually more than one book.
Robert, one of Robert, what's his last name?
Anyway, you know, Robert Dean from Robert Stanley.
No, he's an aerospace executive.
Robert Bigelow.
Robert Bigelow.
No, that's, no, he's an executive.
That's different.
Sorry about this.
I'm talking about the MJ12 papers, if you remember those, who were father-son, Ryan, and Robert.
Wood, Ryan Wood.
Wood.
There you go.
So, yeah, Robert Wood, his father, was the editor of William Tompkins books.
Okay.
So he was an executive from TRW who was involved in the secret space program going way back and basically bringing Tompkins with the permission of the Navy forward to give his testimony, which is what happened.
He did that for a couple of years.
Gaia TV basically paid him for his testimony.
I don't pay whistleblowers, but I did interview him for like with Michael Schratt for around three and a half hours.
And we got a tremendous amount of information in that time span.
And he was going to do another interview with me, I don't know, six months later or something like that.
And it was going to be about the child trafficking and the disappearance of children on our planet, how the reptilians are feeding on them, how the whole thing about that.
And he basically called me up the night before the interview, said, I'll never speak to you again.
Don't ever call me.
And prior to that, he said, love me.
But he was actually told not to talk to me.
So then, you know, he hung up the phone and that was it, except that very shortly after that, he supposedly fell down some stairs and died.
Okay, so go figure.
You know, this is the kind of thing that goes on.
They're still, they're still torturing.
They're still really making the lives of whistleblowers horrible.
And we have testimony on that from David Grush, even during the UAP hearings, talking about that, talking about the threats on his own life.
And those threats are not coming from outside the secret space program.
They're coming from within it.
You know, they don't want people to tell people the truth.
They don't think you can handle the truth, for one thing.
And neither do the white hats, which really pisses me off.
Okay, because I think they're dead wrong.
But they're so programmed by religion and other stuff that it suits their purposes to keep you in the dark as well.
I don't appreciate that.
Okay.
So I'm outing them.
I'm outing all the people that are making life really miserable.
And there's a, I guess you know that there is a whistleblower out there who was also in the recent UAP hearing called Borland.
He gave testimony.
You can go back and watch it.
And I actually linked that on my Telegram a week or two ago because that is a stunning testimony by someone who literally all he did was see a UFO flying over the base.
He lives on a military base.
And he reported that, just talked about it casually with some of his co-workers.
And he got nabbed on that by the powers that be at that base.
And since then, he lost his job.
He lost all his, you know, he just, his whole life has been ruined.
And he goes into his description of what has happened to him as a result.
This is the military attacking their members for see just seeing a UFO.
This is how insane it is.
Okay, so there's hypocrisy at every turn.
So, on the one hand, you've got Abby Loeb and Michukaku saying, yes, there's a craft coming in, it's possibly alien.
And then you've got people that have had direct contact, people that have been on the surface of Earth and underground and undersea, you know, and undersea bases and having contact for, you know, a lot of people having contact their whole lives with ETs.
I'm having contact to this day.
And contact shows up in different ways.
It can be a download, a dream.
It could be, you know, a conversation with what you think is the alien.
You know, I mean, David Sareda thinks Jesus is talking to him.
Well, you know, maybe it's Jesus, or maybe it's an Anunnaki, or maybe it's a Pleiadian or whoever it is, right?
Because aliens are very easily able to disguise themselves.
So these are all the things that you need to consider when you're looking at: do we have contact?
Do we have first contact?
I mean, that's like the stupidest thing anybody could say at this juncture because we have enough evidence out there.
And even the UAP hearings, you know, as slow as Congress is to get a grip, are realizing this.
Okay.
So if you or the listeners don't get this, you know, you've been living under a rock for, I don't know, your whole life.
I was going to say, Perry, there's also V2K too, you know, that some of these targeting agencies use and maybe Internaki or ETs, you know, to get into people's minds and put stuff, you know, yeah, mind control, absolutely.
But again, that's also by virtue of the secret space program.
MK Ultra came out of that and continues to, by the way.
I mean, they're mind controlling, you know, you go back to the various Tavistock and RAND.
These are mind control bastions of mind control.
They mind controlled all, you know, the hobos and whatnot in San Francisco.
I mean, that place in the Presidio, Mark Richards testifies to how much control and mind control was going on in San Francisco.
This goes back to Haight Ashbury to the, you know, what was going on then, the pushing of drugs, getting people hooked on drugs, especially, you know, LSD, various things.
So, you know, we have a huge litany going back to the Germans, you know, and then Antarctica being a center for ET contact and where they have meetings that they feel are off the radar.
So of all the Earth, the meetings in Antarctica are considered to be the most likely to be off the radar of the consensual reality, if you want to call it that.
Yeah, I agree.
What do we know?
What do you think Space Force knows of the secret space program?
And do you think Space Force is escorting 3i Atlas through our solar system?
Well, I do think that there were, okay, so there was a period a few weeks ago when they spotted not only what's called Swan and Lemon, who are very large.
They don't even know what they are, but they look like they're portals, possible portals.
They could be similar structures to 3i Atlas, in fact, or and they could be their own Dyson spheres.
It's hard to say because they're not telling us anything, of course.
But on top of it, suddenly these nine smaller sort of objects started following 3i Atlas.
As I saw it, I said they're escorting it.
I think they are our secret space program.
I think they probably are Space Force.
And they haven't, I don't think they've disappeared.
I think they're still there.
So I think that this is an ongoing issue with this craft that has decided to sort of parade around our solar system in a really obvious way instead of blinking in and out like most UFOs do.
But it's not, it's still a UFO.
I mean, you know, hello.
So this is, I don't, you know, people, I don't know, people are just so dumb.
I'm sorry.
They really seem dumb to me.
What about the Inunnaki connection and the implications for humanity's future?
Do you think they're trying to, the beings on the three eye Atlas are trying to link up with the Inunnaki that are already living on the Earth and then in Israel and stuff like that?
Well, I mean, it might have been called, you know, it might have been called in here by the Anunnaki on Earth.
According to Bob Dean, you know, Robert, Robert O'Dean, that was, you know, Bob Dean, he was, he gave testimony.
I interviewed him dozens of times.
He said I made him a rock star.
So you can go to my website, just put in D-E-A-N as a last name.
And his interviews are fabulous.
He's just a wealth of knowledge.
And he worked in back in Europe at Shape Headquarters, is what it was called.
And his commanding officer gave him a book to read because he was very bored sitting at a desk.
And he also had some sightings.
They'd had sightings over the shape base and basically told him, you know, what was, you know, the download of everything that was going on with ETs and how they tried to shoot him down and it didn't work and so on and so forth.
So he was very well informed.
And then when he got out of the military, he was able to come forward as a whistleblower.
But I wasn't even on the scene when he first came forward.
So he was already well known, going the circuit, doing speeches.
But when I connected with him, we had like a special rapport, and that includes his wife, Marcia Schaefer.
And basically, he, you know, he really opened up to me.
I guess it's my style because he was also a sergeant major, you know, and he was very like they give orders and they're very sort of, you know, strong personalities, I guess you might say.
And since I'm like that, kind of like, I don't know, we just hit it off.
And he, so he really loved me.
And sadly, he's gone.
But I, I, you know, I just highly recommend my interviews with him if you want to learn about this and you see a man who is just a stellar, you know, very lovely, lovely soul, talk about all of this.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember those interviews.
Those are those are some classic Camelot interviews.
And why do you think it is that like Hogan's being targeted so bad, but like they're letting kind of Avi Loeb and the mainstream scientists kind of say kind of whatever they want.
Is that what's going on?
Well, I think Abby Loeb, you know, he's Israeli.
So he is, you know, to the manner born, I was, I imagine, meaning that the thing about the Anunnaki in Israel is that the Anunnaki basically, you know, genetically engineered humanity.
And one side was Enke, who allowed humans to have more free will, and Enlil, who basically was based more in the Middle East and wanted humans to obey.
And so you get the humans in the Middle East, I guess a large portion, who are obedient to whatever they think is God, right?
So you've got this dichotomy going on between human, what I call the rebel gene.
I wrote one of my books is about called Rebel Gene.
And it's all about this rebellious gene that I would grew, I was born with and I grew up with.
But other people, there are people who just are born and they obey.
They don't question their reality.
They obey, obey, obey.
And they really love it.
I mean, and, you know, I could say that there are some members of the White Hats that are definitely in that mold, sadly, because people that obey are not questioning and they're not thinking for themselves, really.
They're just doing what they're told, what they think they're told.
You know what I mean?
And so there's a lot of misconceptions there and they come from the Bible and so and so forth that was taken over and infiltrated.
What the Bible was infiltrated with is this notion that humans needed to basically obey to put, you know, Jesus on a pedestal.
I mean, in essence, Jesus is the Son of God.
We're all sons and daughters of God.
And he was trying to convey this when he said the kingdom of heaven is within, that you shall do as much as I do and more.
Obviously, I'm paraphrasing and so on and so forth.
So there's some very good things that they left in that Jesus said, but he was basically always trying to tell you that it's up to you to free yourself and to look within and so on and so forth.
So then God, the creator, is not Anu, but the God of the Bible is by and large Anu.
So if you look at some vindictive, stupid saying that a God would not say.
So a God would not tell you to worship them.
God doesn't give a shit if you worship him or her.
You know, it's everything.
We're all God.
We're all part of God.
And so this is insane.
There's no reason to get down on your knees over God.
Recently on this news group I'm on, someone said, oh, we've got to tell God to save us.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
You know, because why wouldn't God, who created you, save you?
You don't even have to ask.
I mean, is he really that stupid that you have to ask?
This is where logic just doesn't seem to enter into people's concept of when you get into the areas of ET, you know, God, spirituality, they just turn off the questioning part of their brain or the logical part of their brain.
And so this is where you get stuff that just makes no sense.
And you get a lot of people that are just basically a kind of religious zombie that, you know, there are people that do nothing but quote the Bible.
Like they're programmed to the nth degree, in my opinion.
So I don't know if I'm answering the right question because I might have gone on the tangent there.
So was that a good question or not?
I was asking, well, it seems to be like Hoagland, it seems like he knows something that they're targeting him really bad.
Or is there one other thing?
Okay, well, yeah.
So sorry about that.
So I got off on a tangent, but I was talking about Abby Loeb and Israelis and Anunnaki and the Bible and so on and so forth.
So in essence, let me just say this.
What I've noticed about Avi Loeb is he's able to go halfway.
He's able to question stuff on the behalf of scientists that are approved by the consensus reality.
But he is not going far enough.
And he occasionally will make a statement that sounds kind of outrageous and might be slightly enlightened, but then he backs right off of it.
Okay.
So he's not really pushing the point.
Hoagland, on the other hand, is actually, he's one of the dark magicians from NASA, if you know what that means.
If you happen to have read his book, for example.
So he's well schooled in what we call magic with a K. And he knows the ins and outs of the occult and what, you know, what I'm talking about.
And basically the dark side, he's familiar with the dark side of the Bible and all of that stuff.
So this is an opportunity for him, you know, after years of being relatively kind of pushed to the sidelines, even though he is doing a show on weekends.
This is like a wonderful, you know, outing for him to come out and tell the truth about what he knows, what he's been seeing.
And really, I mean, he'd be, he never was a complete whistleblower.
He always towed the line to some degree.
But I think the temptation here is too much for him to keep quiet.
And that's why he's communicating on this news group.
And they actually let me in, which is bizarre, because normally those kind of groups keep me out.
I'm just, I'm banned everywhere because they don't like my openness to things.
They don't like when I question everything and so on and so forth.
But to his credit, he's left me in.
And that maybe goes back to when I interviewed him many, many years ago.
So what I'm saying is that they're keeping a lock.
And there's, you know, there's leaked documents.
I don't know if you were following my stuff back then, but since the beginning of July, when the three eye atlas was first talked about, very shortly after that, and I posted this, it is on my sub stack.
There is a document that leaked.
It came through what they call God something productions or whatever they call it, Godlike or something.
I don't remember their name.
It's a, you know, it's a platform.
It's, you know, a forum, what they call a forum.
And so somebody leaked an insider document that actually gave instructions to the entire secret space science community, you know, that said, total lockdown.
Do not communicate anything you have on this subject to the public.
Merriad.
It was incredible.
And that's exactly what has happened.
Wow.
So they know, they know the powers that be know it.
I mean, because they have ties to the secret space program.
And, you know, and so that would make sense.
They know exactly what's going on.
What's really going on?
the higher levels, of course.
And remember the meeting that that was called by Hexeth, you know, as far as I'm concerned, that meeting was about 3i Atlas and the other attending whatever you want to call them, portals or orbs or whatever they are.
You know, in other words, that was a meeting where they had to go offline so that they had these people fly in right person.
Because most everything gets communicated over, you know, email and the various electronic ways that we have.
So, but they spent a tremendous amount of money flying in a good portion of the military to give them instructions.
And you can bet that that included some things about 3i Atlas, what they were going to attempt to do.
See, at this moment, we still have, today's the 23rd to the 29th.
After that, in theory, 3i Atlas will be visible again.
It'll come around from behind behind the sun.
Now, they lie to you about that as well.
Okay, so the reality is the secret space program does have, and this is documented, space craft satellites and telescopes on satellites and so on and so forth that are on the other side of the sun.
I mean, you'd be idiotic not to be tracking all of that if you're part of what's called solar warden and you're guarding our solar system.
Okay, they've got to have all kinds of surveillance technology up there, and they definitely do.
And in fact, Anthony Sanchez, all those years ago, talked about Project Leonid that were a network of satellites that were nano and they also were self-replicating and could repair themselves.
They're there.
They're up there.
Okay.
The Lockheed Martin scientists that went on the run and reported to him actually told him about this.
And he got death threats.
I got death threats for interviewing him.
I have an interview with him.
I've never been able to release because they said his whole family, he and his whole family would be killed if I did.
I mean, this is how, you know, I just wish people understood that, you know, that these threats are real and that this information is so crucial to our well-being and to our sovereignty as humans.
And that these people that don't want us to know the truth, they are actually traitors to humanity.
That's real.
Okay.
They are traitors.
When you lie to somebody, you're actually, you know, basically dissing them.
You're putting them down when you lie to them.
You're basically saying, as Jack Nicholson said, you can't handle the truth.
In other words, the person lying thinks they can handle the truth, but you can't.
So it is a top-down, you know, hierarchical way of talking.
And I know people in the MAGA movement that talk like that all the time.
They believe they can handle the truth, but no one else can.
And I also think that, you know, I can tell you that certain conversations that have been shared with me that go on within that group is basically to keep me out of meetings, to keep me out of the scene, to put me down even online, is because I won't settle for that.
I know they're lying.
They're lying every second of every day.
And they call it the Q operation and they give hints, you know, so there's hints of truth.
Yeah.
But they're also conducting a lot of ops.
You know, Charlie Kirk was not killed.
He's alive.
Okay.
Erica Kirk and her children are probably in witness protection with him or even separately.
I don't know.
But you know what I'm saying?
I have testimony to this effect.
This was a white hat operation to get him off the scene because his, I guess his rhetoric with regard to the Israelis who are under the thumb of the Anunnaki was pissing the Anunnaki off.
And I guess he possibly had some death threats.
And they decided they had to take the action first in order to protect him.
And well, they should.
But I'm saying here that, you know, in the end of the day, like once an op is over, why don't you just say, you know, it's an op.
We hit it.
You know, because the other, the enemy, the enemy knows the truth.
You don't.
This is how it is.
That's how they operate.
The enemy knows full well because they know the game board.
They know they both sides, the light in the dark, know the board game.
You know, they know the rules.
They know how it's operating.
You know, it's Godfather all over again.
Okay.
And this is known.
I mean, everything that I revealed about JFK Jr. is known and was known way before I got into the scene.
But they make a real big thing like, oh, you're outing him.
That's not nice.
That's putting him in danger.
It's bullshit.
You know, he's been in danger.
He's had numerous death threats.
You guys don't know this.
I do, because I was very close to the white hats in the early days, going back to 2010 and earlier.
I got a question.
What are your thoughts on Trump now?
Because I know you were a big supporter of Trump, but do you feel like Trump's hands are tied in certain ways?
And do you feel like he has to take orders from the Anunnaki?
Well, this goes back to your question about does Space Force have any control over the secret space program or are they also under their thumb?
And this is something that I wrote about in my sub stack, a number of articles, especially when Trump came back into power recently, you know, because that's a big question.
Now, I don't know for sure.
What I look for are the signs and signals that Space Force is doing something opposite from the deep space secret space program.
And I'll tell you one area where it does appear that they didn't operate along those lines.
In other words, they're breaking away from that traditional secret space program, which was the Palisades fire in LA, which I live right near there.
So we were evacuated during that time.
And there was information that came out that actually the directed energy weapons that caused the fire came from Area 51.
And even Juan Osavin did a show tracking, showing about the tracking and the tracing that showed that this is a fact.
So it was known.
Okay.
So that means that the, you know, Juan O'Savin being a white hat, being involved with Space Force, that Space Force tracked those weapons that caused the Palisades fire.
They were set.
You know, those fires were ridiculously set.
And this is how you tell.
You've got to take the intel that you get.
And once in a while, whether it comes from Juan O'Savin or some other, you know, secret source, certain people might say Phil, not going to say his last name, is a techie that works for them.
You know, there are certain people that supposedly have insider information and they will give you that information.
Okay.
So they're basically supposed to be semi-spokespeople for the movement.
That's how you can tell where Space Force is separating itself from the traditional secret space program.
So that was one area which I was very happy to hear that they actually would have the chutzpah to come forward and reveal that to the people.
I'm guessing most people, you know, sort of filed that away in their brain if they even heard it and don't even think about it now.
I do believe they were, you know, attacked.
The Space Force was attacked at Lahaina.
Maui is a center of Space Force.
Okay.
And they were their battles with, you know, SSP were going on underground, I was told, during the, you know, the directed energy weapons that were decimating Lahaina.
So this is what we're talking about.
We're talking about we have a war within different divisions of our military.
And a lot of those people hate each other.
They can't stand each other.
And, you know, they would as easily kill each other as they would kill an Anunnaki, let's say.
So, you know, and getting back to Bob Dean and the Nannaki, he said the Anunnaki, and this was around 2010, the Anunnaki are walking the halls of the Pentagon.
He said it plain and simple in an interview with me.
Okay.
And it's known that the Anunnaki have also, you know, sort of manufactured bodies that are, you know, shorter like us, like more, you know, in the six foot and lower level in terms of height, because the real Anunnaki are more like nine feet tall.
Wow.
They're huge.
They're giant.
They're very tall.
They're not huge.
They're not giants quite like giants.
Giants are 24 feet tall.
Yeah.
But nine feet, pretty big, you know.
I mean, like seven feet.
Anunnaki are tall, the actual ones that aren't being, you know, hiding in bodies that are smaller.
I mean, I was going to ask you, do you think there's Anunnaki hybrids that are mixing in like with like us every day and stuff like that?
Well, our, okay, back when they invaded Earth and took over the human race and divided them into these two groups, basically, one under the control in Africa of Enki, who was a master geneticist, and the other under Enlil, and then both sons reporting to Anu, the king, who's still the king of the Anunnaki.
So, and then there's Marduk, who runs Mars, by the way.
So, what we're talking, I mean, look, 3E Atlas could be carrying Marduk.
It could be a Marduk operation.
Okay, that's why it's coming, spending so much time near Mars and all this shit.
I mean, I think I'm going to jump around a little bit here, but understanding the trajectory, understand by watching the show that I did with David Serreta, where he and I, he was doing the mathematics.
I already got a download that the Anunnaki were involved with 3i Atlas.
Okay, so that much I got.
Then he showed me the trajectory and it started to speak unequivocally as each place they were going by was significant to our history with the Anunnaki going back centuries.
Okay.
So that's why I look at it and I say, this is the return of the Anunnaki, some division of them.
Okay.
Now, I know there are people out there, again, I'm not going to name their names who think, you know, all this airy fairy shit and they're going to save us and be nice to us after all.
And there's a good portion.
Look, if you've ever seen the TV show V, then you must understand.
I grew up in the 80s.
I remember V. I remember V perfectly.
That was a, and also remember the Roddy Roddy Piper movie They Live where he was able to see.
But especially V is perfect because they're going to, you know, a lot of these people that are deceived, they are downloading what they think are their friends.
You know, they're going to protect them and they're going to take care of them.
And they may even think they have evidence of that, you know, because they're going to fake out, fake you out.
So this is what we're getting right now.
We're getting a lot of people who are starting to maybe come to the surface and make a name for themselves as broadcasters or whatever.
But just be, I mean, I'm saying a warning right here.
A lot of these people are deceived and ETs are really good at deceiving.
And the V, the 2V television shows that were quite a number of years apart depict this type of deception very well.
And by the way, let's see, this Childhood's End by, you know, 2001 Space Odyssey, the guy.
Oh, I'm trying to think, why can't I think of this?
So Arthur Clark wrote a famous short, it's short novella, I think they call it.
And it's all about how a race of beings comes to Earth and says, okay, we're going to offer you to have peace on earth.
And in exchange, you're going to let us run the place or whatever kind of thing.
And they make nice with the humans and then they take over totally.
And what happens to the humans in this kind of scenario, they're like prisoners in a prison, even more so than we are now.
And they don't have the hope of rebellion.
They're not allowed to rebel, obviously.
And what happens is they lose all creativity, all the urges to be creative.
And that's what saves us because we are in the image we're built after is the creator, but it's the creator.
We are creators by nature.
We're not made to worship.
That's bullshit.
Okay.
Sorry, against all religions over here.
I am not a fan of religions of any kind, really.
There are certain religions that have some truths.
I think the truth shall set you free.
It's probably the wisest thing, you know, Jesus ever said.
I think he's never coming back because he did a good job the first time and there's no need for it.
You know, I think he is an avatar.
I think there were, like Ashana Dean reported, there were three Jesus type figures during a certain period of history.
One was considered to be, I guess, sixth-dimensional, one was ninth, and I think there might have been a 12th.
But anyway, so we have a question.
They were put into a story.
You know, when you make a story, it's just like Hollywood makes a movie.
They take tons of poetic license, it's called, to get their point across.
So that is what the temple, I mean, the Council of Nicaea did.
All right.
That's what those old white men did.
Hello?
We got a question here from Indigo Angel.
She says, could you ask Carrie about the Guardian Alliance?
She says, do you think they're intervening with the Inunnaki or Three Eye Atlas?
That ties into Ashiana Dean material, right?
The Guardian.
The Guardian Alliance.
Well, according to the information.
Or anything like that?
Yeah.
I was in touch or probably still am with the Guardians.
Okay.
So the reason I know that is because I went on a trip to India with Ashana Dean and her group.
And as she was getting downloads, I was getting those downlight loads right before she started talking, as it happened during the show, you know, the travel.
So I realized I was in contact with them then.
I can tell you that, you know, I was attracted to her.
Her whole platform and her book and her, and I've interviewed her.
Obviously, people know that.
I'm one of the very few people in the whole world that's interviewed her for what it's worth.
And I, you know, she is very brilliant, but she's also, you know, she, in a sense, you know, she's a scribe.
She was given downloads of what to, you know, write in her books.
So the books are written by the Guardians.
And the Guardians are clearly saying that they are on the side of humanity and they are revealing real truth.
Whereas the raw material, this is a frustration I had early on with that material, is as I read it, I realized that they were holding back a whole lot of information.
So they were also trying to cover up and hide, as the Bible does, just secrecy.
They're all about secrecy.
Okay, I don't know if we've lost that.
Yeah, I agree.
My camera froze really bad.
So you can still hear me, right?
My camera froze really bad and I didn't want it to woke that, you know.
I just took it off for a second.
I don't know what's going on.
But yeah, let me ask you this.
So more about 3i Atlas.
Like, is there, do you have a message for humanity and on how we can prepare and like protect ourselves?
Or what do you think is going to happen?
I think that we're going to be wondering.
And now, look, some of this may have already happened.
There was a period that people don't seem to know or remember that David Sareda made a special point of talking about on our interviews over the past few months, where even though we weren't, the government wasn't shut down, there was a shutdown.
We were unable to see what was going on with 3E Atlas.
I think it was between, I don't know if it was July 18th or, you know, up to the 30th or something like that.
There was a period of time, I think it might have been 15 days or more.
I'd have to go back and look at the exact dates when there was a complete blackout of images, again, from 3E Atlas.
And at that time, 3E Atlas wasn't behind the sun.
In fact, it was, I think it was coming in towards Earth and Mars on the trajectory.
And I'm not sure exactly where it was, but you can go back in the history and see.
But what I'm saying is there was a blackout then.
In other words, they were not letting anyone see what was going on with 3E Atlas.
And I believe that during that time is the most logical time when Space Force and or the SSP or both would have gone and made trips, connection with it, communicated with it, maybe even take it, boarded it like you would a ship, you can, you know, a ship in the seas that's trespassing on your territory.
In other words, there are certain procedures that they would have gone through to communicate with the ship incoming.
No doubt about it.
And they wouldn't have waited until it goes beyond the sun.
Now, that might have been one of their operations, the CME it was hit by, was probably one of their operations in cohoots with another ET group that may be more positively oriented, like the Pleiadians or whoever it is.
In other words, we don't know.
It's very important to understand the big gaps in our understanding of what has really gone on, even with this craft so far.
And they're deceiving us.
They continue to deceive us.
So, what's going on behind when it's so-called hidden behind the sun when the government is conveniently shut down?
I mean, this is like so obvious that they're messing with whatever's going on.
They're not going to just sit there like you know, lumps.
Okay.
If they're developed as my whistleblowers say they are, which is to be 10,000 years in advance of where we are now on surface earth, they laugh at us.
Okay.
They do not take Trump and the rest seriously.
I got to tell you.
That's what I've been told.
You know, like it or not, I don't know if it's completely true, but that's what I've been told.
So, what I'm saying here is that we, I just like people to make a distinction between what we really know, what we think might be going on, and what all the possibilities of what could be going on.
And so, I think that there's reason to believe that our space force and SSP have been interacting with this ship since it was detected.
And it was probably detected before July 1st when it was reported, because anything they tell you about ultimately is just something they couldn't quite hide.
You know, I'm sorry, that's just how they work.
If they can lie to you, they fucking do.
Yeah.
Well, Karen McDonald had a good question.
She says, What's up with the ASW Bank or AWS Bank and the Amazon blackouts?
Did you have any information on it or do you have any opinion on it?
Well, yes.
And actually, in David's article, that I put it on my Telegram, which is on Medium.
So, David has a substack on Medium.
He talks about the blackout.
And I think he was going to write another article.
He said soon he's going to write another article about the blackout.
But I imagine that's in keeping with blocking in any incoming information that he does they don't want out here.
So I definitely think there's a connection.
I don't think that just happened.
Oh, it was so convenient, you know, that it's also during the shutdown.
Maybe there was a leak they had to plug, you know, maybe coming from some other space organization that was, you know, is involved.
Maybe it was the Chinese.
You know, I mean, these are things that are going on constantly.
You know, our secret space program is constantly involved, if you want to call it that, with outer space.
And, you know, along those lines, Epstein and I believe Erica Kirk, I believe they're both involved in the child trafficking off-planet of children and to our colonies.
I believe that's the aspect of the real secret space program that they have been involved in.
Epstein, yes, the honeypots and all that.
And the guy is a complete pervert, no doubt.
But I think he was being used to do a lot of work for them.
And he was working for the, in essence, the Anunnaki, which is the Mossad and so on.
I just want to say this was something that people didn't see.
You kind of spoke on this on detail.
This is kind of like a galactic slave trade that's going on.
You spoke about this in detail last time we did a show.
That, you know, you believe that people are being trafficked off planet to build colonies off-world, right?
And that's to be in Duncan.
Yeah, there's actually no doubt about it.
And if you go to my substack, you can see that I've been writing on Substack for God knows how long.
There's one of my articles that is documenting this whistleblower called Michael Herrera, who I don't know if he actually spoke at the UAP hearing recently, but he was supposed to give evidence.
There is a drawing of what he and his military group came across in Indonesia just after a major earthquake that caused a lot of destruction.
They were in the jungle.
They came across an operation that was military.
All the military were dressed in black from head to toe.
They didn't have any insignias and that sort of thing.
But they had humans in cages that they were gathering from this natural disaster, which is a really common way for them to do this slave trade that goes on.
According to Mark Richards, even delivering a lot of these, you know, humans in cages to the reptilians underground in their nests, which are below our secret, you know, underground bases.
The Doms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like 10 miles below those.
I mean, understand, this is what's going on here.
It's this is a major type of thing.
So now, again.
From my point of view, why don't you tell humans you've got colonies?
Why don't you just tell them and recruit?
The people would go willingly, I'm sure.
But everything's secrecy.
I just, what is wrong with these people's mentality?
I have no idea.
They just don't want to tell the truth.
They don't want, they don't believe in the God-given intelligence of all humans.
You know, they think they're special or whatever the hell it is.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just insane.
It's such a top-down mentality.
It's so hierarchical.
And it is a holdover from the reptilian influence over humanity.
There is one girl who talks about it.
I don't know.
She comes on my show and she comes on other.
Her name's Olivia James.
She says she worked for Mars Defense Force.
And she says they do recruit some people now.
I don't know if you've heard this, but she's saying, she told me that they do recruit people and some people are going willingly.
Like, you know, like some people are excited about.
I mean, listen to Laura Eisenhower.
They tried to recruit her, recruit her.
You know that.
Yeah.
I agree.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
It's crazy.
I had one more.
This is a good question.
This is from Sovereign Cosmic Wild Man.
He wanted to see if you had any information on this.
Which ETs are shooting down SpaceX launches?
I don't know if anybody heard about that.
Well, I mean, it's going to get, again, this could easily be an Anunnaki operation or reptilian, because according to William Tompkins, again, if you watch my three hour interview with him, he talks about that.
He talks about how during the development, early development of our space program, there were two ET races that were helping.
Okay.
And one was the Pleiadians on a good way.
And that was, he was part of that group.
And then the other was the reptilians.
And what the reptilians do is they are always trying to hobble us, hold us back from our development.
So that's where you get this sort of thing.
And then the Anunnaki being actually taken over by the reptilians and made hybridized.
And the ones that are here on Earth, probably trying to direct and control things, are again partly reptilian.
And they're also, you know, carved in the sides of the temples and Egypt.
I live, I do tours every year there whenever possible.
And Iran and Iraq and so on and so forth.
So this is, you know, it's a worldwide thing.
It's there are other negative ET races.
And Mark Richards talks about all the different ones, like the spider beings having a lot to do with Vietnam.
And that's the real reason they had Vietnam is because these portals were open in that area.
And these horrible spider beans, which are quite large, apparently, it's really gross, but this is what he said.
It sounds insane.
But they were there during Ankar Watt.
And what they did is they came in.
I've told this story before.
This is a Mark Richards story.
They came into that area back during the time when Anker Watt is said to have just disappeared all of a sudden, just emptied out that all the humans were gone, like overnight, practically.
And what really happened there is that these spider beings came in through the portals and basically dried.
They didn't do anything to the river.
There was a river going right through the middle of Ankar Wat, but they mind control their victims before they kill them.
That's like even a spider thing.
So they mind controlled all the people in Ankar Wat to they had no water.
So they were actually weakened and dying of thirst.
So they then could take them over.
So that's what he said happened there.
And then they returned around the time of the Vietnam War to the areas of Cambodia and Laos and so on.
And I did interviews with soldiers because I put the word out asking if any soldiers had the return of their memories because they do wipe their memories all the time in war zones.
And so I had two or three soldiers come forward with memories of having seen these spider beans.
Yeah.
And then this might be a stupid question, but it's also a good one too from Chief Mustache on Rumble.
And thanks for watching on Rumble.
He says, why still kids when we, everything we hear about cloning?
Do you think do you think it's because of the pure essence of the children and they want something out of that, like something disgusting or perverted?
Or, you know, or is it to because they need the DNA to populate off-world humans or something like that?
Well, it sounds like he's really talking about adrenochrome, which is a different thing.
That's actually why they kill and torture children, you know.
And they're taking, okay, so kundalini activation will activate your orgone, your plasma, and give you all kinds of powers and so on and so forth.
Chi.
And the children are being tortured for what is called adrenochrome.
It's a drug.
They sell it to people in Hollywood, Wall Street, so and so forth.
A lot of the elite to try to keep what it keeps you younger is that children contain the best source of orgone, the least diluted, I guess you might say.
Pure chi.
It's not diluted with like cigarettes and alcohol and drugs like us all.
Yeah.
So orgone in children as up through the teens.
So up through your teens, you have very active, you know, you don't even have to meditate because you've got this amazing amount of chi or orgone, whatever you want to call it.
So it's after the age of around 20, a little later sometimes, where it starts to go down.
And then that's what aging does.
Okay.
That's when you start to age.
So these wealthy people have been, there's, I call it the adrenochrome highway.
They have been purchasing this drug that is a concoction made up of the blood and the orgone of children, tortured children.
And so also has to do with the, it has to do with adrenaline that gets stimulated when a child or a being, even an animal, is in a fight or flight syndrome, right?
That's when the most gets produced.
So anyway, that's one angle.
Now, as far as clones, yes, there are cloning facilities.
In fact, part of the White Hap operations, again, this is where they're borrowing from the playbook of the dark side, is that supposedly under Gitmo are cloning facilities that have been cloning a lot of the people that they actually have already killed.
They've given them tribunals, they've executed them, and they've allowed their doubles or clones to walk around so that people are none the wiser.
I mean, like, from my point of view, this is just stupid.
But this is how they think they get away with doing things because there will not be a backlash.
You know, a lot of people may not like to, you know, okay, all the Democrats who think Hillary was a good person.
I mean, she was a black witch, like nobody's business, are going to freak out because they love these people.
They think they're so wonderful.
I mean, there's a whole list of them and it's known on the internet.
You know, I think I won't name the names, but they're really known.
And these people are very diabolical black magicians that got involved with black magic and the Satanism.
And the thing is that, you know, we're going back now when we're talking about the Khazarian mafia and the Anunnaki.
They are all the same race.
All right.
And they feed on actually humans.
So they're feeding on not each other, but humans.
And when they have more Anunnaki, reptilian, and reptilian DNA, this is what they do.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I was just going to ask you, is there anything else you want to cover before we finish up for today?
And I thought we kind of covered it.
We kind of went all over the place.
Is there anything you wanted to kind of touch on before we finish up?
Not sure that I can think of anything right offhand other than to tell people that the true God doesn't want you to be walking around bowing and worshiping and doing all this nonsense because they don't need it, first of all.
They could care less.
They wouldn't be a real God otherwise.
And that the true creator God wants you to stand alongside him or her, however you want to visualize that, and be equals to God, to actually take control of your life and not go around in a subservient, slave-like manner, and so on.
So this idea of, oh, I've got to ask Jesus' permission to do such and such.
Look, if you're just going to be weaklings for the rest of your life or your sojourn on earth, you'll never get it.
You'll never understand what this experiment is really all about, which is basically, you know, to enlighten, to bring up to the level of God, everything and everybody.
All consciousness is God.
Okay.
So that's what I would like to say.
I love that.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry about the camera problems.
I would rather have my camera off than look stupid with a frozen face.
I don't know why it does that in StreamYard or something, you know, but no, this was amazing, Carrie.
And thank you so much.
And I always enjoy having you on the show.
And yeah, do you want anything to promote?
And thank you again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Please go to my website, projectcamelotportal.com.
I've got my two new books right on the front page down there.
And, you know, please watch my interviews and go to Rumble where all the newest ones are.
And yeah, support my channel, you know, click the follow button, all that kind of thing.
They are trying to ghost me on Telegram all the time.
So please go to my Telegram.
I literally post there at three in the morning.
Every single day I post a Telegram.
And it doesn't mean that I agree with the post.
Okay.
So don't get the wrong idea.
If I post there, usually I'll start ranting about the post, but sometimes I won't.
I'll just post it.
It's just to let you know that of something that I think is worth being aware of.
It could be positive.
It could be negative.
I love that.
I love the fact that you're neutral about stuff.
That's how I try to be as well.
You know, I think we have to be in today's world.
Not everything.
You know, I have my preferences, sure.
But I'm going to, you know, I want what I'm interested in is enlightenment.
That's my highest goal.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, then thank you everybody for tuning in today.
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