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May 28, 2025 - Project Camelot
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MICHAEL SCHRATT: PRESERVING UFO HISTORY: NATIONAL UFO HISTORICAL RECORDS
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Music playing I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and very happy to be here today.
So hopefully this is all good, and we are live with Michael Schrat.
And Michael, how are you doing?
I'm managing today.
I've had some things, but hopefully I'll get through it.
But we'll just keep the dream alive here.
Okay.
Well, I'm sorry.
Okay, we're just going to roll with this.
All right, so Michael, welcome.
It's lovely to have you here with me.
Good to be with you, Carol.
Good to be with you.
And I just want to say that you're going to be talking about, and we're going to be talking about preserving UFO history.
That's correct.
Really has gone on in this world and how much contact has already happened and how many truths are already out there that you've been talking about, I have been talking about, my witness have been talking about for, well, in my case, 20 years, in your case, maybe even more.
So just wanted to clarify that for the public.
Yeah, so hopefully we're loud enough and everything.
I can't really see the chat at the moment, but I might see it in a minute.
Okay, so why don't you start off and go ahead.
Michael Schrat is an aerospace historian and a crack investigator of UFO history, UAP history, call it what you will, and both human and alien craft.
He covers the gamut.
And you try to go around the world, don't you, Michael, to some degree?
I don't know about around the world, but certainly around the U.S. But I wouldn't mind going around the world.
All right.
Well, one day.
But anyway, so I've had him on my show many, many times, and he has his own show.
You want to tell people where to find you?
I'm on YouTube, and it's just my name, Michael Schrett.
Very simple.
Okay.
And I want to thank you, Carrie, because you're the one who got me going on all this.
So thank you, Carrie.
Okay, great.
So I am just going to make sure that I'm on my...
All right, so go ahead and start off'cause Michael's gonna present some stuff.
Okay, well, what I think we should say first is I'm not going to let them do that.
You're not going to let them do that.
And a whole legion of other UFO researchers around the world aren't going to do that because we have a rich history of UFO cases going back.
To 1947, prior to World War II, all the way back to prehistory.
But what they've tried to do is rebrand UFOs as UAP and make everything prior to disappear.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
We have mountains of data, mountains of sketches, drawings, illustrations, citing reports, reliable witness military reports about this phenomenon going back.
Even to prehistory times.
We've got cases from 1856, Oaxaca, Mexico, where these golden colored trumpets were hovering over the 1856s is going on.
So I'm not going to let the United States government get away with this and try to make everything prior to 2006 disappear.
I won't let it happen, Carrie.
Okay, good.
Well, so what do you want to start with?
Okay, well, I'm going to share my screen.
That's, I think, the best way to start here.
And I'll go here, and I'll share.
And hopefully, everybody can see this here.
You can see this, Carrie?
Yes.
Okay, so what we're going to be talking about tonight is something new.
And hopefully, Carrie, I have some world-exclusive surprises for you and your listeners and viewers.
I mean, I think it's safe to say that.
We do have some world-exclusive surprises here.
So this is the National UFO Historical Records Center.
This is a new organization, basically.
It's based out of Rio Rancho, New Mexico.
So I don't know if you want to do it, but you can enlarge that.
Okay, well, if I enlarge it, yeah, I can enlarge it, no problem.
But then I want to advance my screen here.
I don't know if you'll see your slide, the side things, the thumbnails.
You don't have to have those visible unless you need them.
No, I don't need them.
I don't need them.
Okay, I have to go to slideshow from beginning.
But I have to move this.
Okay.
Trying to figure out how to move this thing.
Okay.
Slideshow.
Nope.
See, if you're looking at the Zoom screen.
Okay.
Just want to make sure that you can see all the slides as I'm going through here.
So, National UFO Historical Records Center.
This is an organization that was founded by David Marler.
Someone everybody should know.
This guy is really good.
Probably the only person in the world that could have pulled this off, but what he has done is nothing short of incredible, because he has compiled now the largest collection of UFO case files, drawings, sketches, illustrations, VHS tapes, CDs, audio tapes, motion picture film reels, foreign news publications.
And he's getting private collections from all around the world.
It's all being brought into Rio Rancho.
It is now part of the school system.
So it's a legitimate organization.
The mayor of Rio Rancho was there.
So this is all on the up and up.
It's properly vetted.
And this is what we want to talk about.
So I'm going to take you through a tour of the facility.
And then I'm going to take you boots on the ground.
And show you examples of the kind of UFO case files that I've been digging out of these files.
So let's continue on here.
Now, can you turn your sound any louder or not?
Can I turn it any louder?
It would be, I think it's over at the little market.
I've got it turned up.
Okay, that's better.
Okay, so what they have here is they have QFOS files that Center for UFO Studies.
They have NICAP, APRO files, audio tapes, videotapes, cassette tapes, film reels, UFO collections from all around the world, historical UFO artifacts, and UFO-related artwork.
And this is stuff that's coming in on a weekly basis.
I'm talking about, like, five to ten bank boxes of private collections coming in.
By the week at this point.
And it's just grown and grown and grown.
They have two large trailer fulls of information.
It is open to the public by appointment only on Saturdays and Sundays.
So, you know, this is not anything that's being hidden from the public.
This is open to the public.
It's a secure access facility.
They have a badge, a gate system.
This is, you know, it's locked down.
The files are safe.
That's for sure.
Let's continue on here.
Okay, so what does real-world boots-on-the-ground research entail?
It means going through every file cabinet, every drawer, every manila folder, and every page to dig out historical UFO sighting reports that have been lost to history and never seen by the general public.
Literally going through every file cabinet, every manila folder, every paper to make sure I'm not missing any really good cases.
And, you know, somebody's got to do this.
He recently acquired the APRO files, Aerial Phenomenon Research Organization.
These files literally had been lost for 50 years, Kerry.
They have not seen the light of day.
They've been sealed with an actual...
The files have not been open.
And there's, I don't know, I guess 50,000 file case files there.
A significant majority of that has not been seen by the public and has never been published in their APRO bulletin.
It's all virgin material.
So that's what we're dealing with here.
Yeah, so he, this place, I mean, you haven't shown, Are you going to show pictures of the place?
I'm going to...
Okay.
Okay, I'm just double-checking because people are going to want to see where this is happening.
Of course.
It's quite a bizarre story.
It's not a bizarre story.
It's a great story.
It's a great story.
Well, it's bizarre in...
terms of where it is, is very highly symbolic and how this guy got involved in doing all this.
Do you know how he...
It's officially in the Rio Rancho school system.
It's recognized by the whole town here, you know.
In New Mexico.
In New Mexico.
This is about 25 miles northwest of Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Yep.
All right, so let's continue.
Now, when you drive up to the facility, this is what you see.
This is kind of like the...
They got some research in here.
There is a library in the background.
But, you know, a lot of the materials down here.
But I want to take you over to the main building.
So let's go over here.
This is the entry to the secondary building.
So you can see, you know, these files are safe.
They are secure.
There's no doubt about that.
This is the entry to the main facility where I do all my scanning.
Let me take you inside here now.
This is what it looks like on the inside, and you can see all the file cabinets in the background.
That's the APRO files.
Those are the files that I was talking about that were lost for 50 years.
No one had access to these.
So, you know, it's a matter of going through every cabinet, opening up everything and looking at all the files and going through everything, making sure nothing is missing.
And it takes...
They're taped.
They've got paper clips.
It takes time to scan this stuff at 300 dpi.
A searchable PDF.
It takes time to do all this.
This is not something that can be done overnight.
This is a multi-month project here.
Let's continue.
These are UFO sightings by the general public, correct?
By everybody.
General public, military, political figures.
It's across the board.
It's across the board.
Now, what I did is the criteria that I set is that I copy the case that has a three-page report.
From the witness, a drawing, sketch, or illustration of the craft that was seen, and a flight path.
It has to satisfy that criteria.
If it doesn't, I won't do it.
If it's just a CE1 light in the sky, boring, I won't do it.
People want to see craft.
They want to see vehicles, you know.
I do too.
I'm curious like everybody else.
So those are the cases that I look after here.
This is another group.
This would be on the left-hand side, so we've got more files here.
The QFOS files, Center for UFO Studies, that used to be at the J. Allen Hynek Center at 2457 Peterson Avenue near Chicago.
This is an example of my scanning station, so you can see my high-capacity document scanner off to the left in my laptop.
I've got some of the files pulled out here.
This is another example of the files in the background.
Now, he's got artwork.
He's got newsletters.
He's got newspaper clippings.
I mean, it's a massive collection.
David Marler now is top gun.
He's got the best collection in the world now.
He really does.
It has reached that point.
Well, does Luna know?
She should know.
She should know.
Yeah, she should know.
I wonder if she knows.
You know, so you can see this is a legitimate organization.
It's handled like a university library.
You can't just show up.
You have to set up an appointment.
You have to sign in.
It's a legitimate organization here.
You can see these are where some of the foreign newspaper clippings and newsletters are stored here.
I'm going to go on to the next one.
Now, of course, he's got thousands of books, too.
Very comprehensive book collection.
I thought, Kerry, we would start with this case here.
I've covered this case before, but I've got new information that I was able to pull out of this archive.
So this is January 1st, 1970, in Canada.
The primary eyewitness is a nurse called Doreen Kendall.
That's her off to the left.
In the center, you see the hospital.
Now, this took place at night on the third floor of the hospital.
So that's our site picture here.
And I do have a world exclusive for you here, Carrie.
So here, in a nutshell, I'll try to paraphrase this.
So Doreen Kendall was making the rounds on the hospital ward on the third floor, and she noticed that one of her patients was getting restless.
So she thought, well, I'll open up the blinds here and I'll open up the window to get some fresh air in here.
And when she opened up these blinds right in front of her parked.
And she's looking at this.
I mean, you can see the rough illustration.
There were two men in this thing.
It had a bubble transparent canopy.
Let me go to the next slide here.
This gives you a little bit better clarity on what she saw.
Now, there were lights wrapped around the outer circumference of the disc itself.
There were two men.
They were not aliens.
They were men.
They were both wearing a one-piece pants.
They had helmets on.
This flight suit went all the way up to their wrists and all the way up to their necks.
There were bar stools, Carrie, inside this craft.
Big bubble transparent canopy.
The one on the left noticed he was being watched by the nurse in the foreground.
The one on the right was tending to this instrument panel that had buttons and switches and dials and things on it.
Now, when the guy on the left found out he was being watched, he turned over and he tapped the shoulder of the other man, and then this guy pulled this lever, Kerry.
So if you look closely, you can see this lever.
He pulled this lever back and forth, and then this thing flew away.
Very interesting case.
And there was another nurse that saw it, too.
So we have two sources for this.
I mean, why would this nurse lie?
What would be the point?
Here is the technical drawing that went with the case that I pulled out of the National UFO Historical Records Center.
So you can see 60 feet off the ground.
Witness location.
This is about a 40-degree tip-up angle.
So it was basically...
This is the technical drawing that shows you the control panel, the two occupants, the bar stools.
This gives you an idea of what that lever looked like.
And then there were lights wrapped around the outer circumference of that outer ring here.
So now, Carrie, here is an example of what you're going to find there.
You won't find this anywhere else.
This is an original sketch.
By Doreen Kendall.
It's signed below.
So this is historic.
You can see her sketch.
You can see her technical drawing.
It says, The instrument panel was larger than shown as the first man was at the controls, consisted of large and small circles and brilliantly lit up.
Good drawing.
I mean, good drawing by this nurse.
Let's continue on here.
So here she is looking outside the window now.
And this was a sketch.
I had never seen this before.
I had never seen this color pencil drawing before.
I don't think it had been seen for like 50 years.
And I was shocked to see it.
I mean, it's well done.
Gives you a really good idea of what she saw here.
Here's the blow up.
And so, you know, this is the kind of caliber of detailed analysis and information that you can get from the center that's now available to the general public.
So I said, okay, Rudy.
We got to do a drawing of this.
So I had Rudy do a drawing.
And so he cleaned things up.
And this is what we came up with here.
And I'm happy to report that Rudy is doing a good job on these.
And this is all done to preserve an important part of our national history.
And this is way before the Nimitz encounter with the F-18 Super Hornet.
This is back in 1970.
So I won't let these historical cases slip away.
No way.
Not a chance.
Here was my original first pass illustration, just to give an idea of what this may have looked like in the daytime full color.
Let's continue on here.
Again, mentioned before, we've got newspaper clippings to back this up.
So this is the Times colonists, January 5th, 1970.
Human-like pair in saucer.
So they talk about Doreen sighting here.
They go into great detail.
We'll continue on.
Now, next one.
USS FDR.
1958, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Chester Grzynski.
This is late 1958 time frame.
Now I've talked about this before, Carrie, on this show, but this time I wanted to give you some new information that I got from this center.
So what you're looking at now is a photograph of the USS FDR aircraft carrier.
This took place at night.
And there was a tremendous amount of commotion below decks.
There were naval personnel, there were officers running up ladders to get to the flight deck, screaming and yelling and swearing and chaos.
Something was going on at the flight deck at night right on this aircraft carrier.
So I'm going to go to Chester's sketch here, and you can see that there's 25 naval personnel on the flight deck.
They're looking up.
And they see a 200-foot-long cigar-shaped craft.
And he said that the people on the flight deck could feel the heat emanating off this craft onto their faces.
So it's a CE-1 carry, and it's a CE-2 because it had physical effects.
And then he said that there were rectangular windows on the long side of this craft.
And he said he could see what looked like humanoid figures walking back and forth between these windows.
So now it's a CE3 because there's humanoid beings involved.
Let me go on here.
Now, if you look at the bottom, there's a detailed blow-up view.
You can see that one of these beings was looking out the window back at the personnel on the flight deck, and he was waving to the people back on the flight deck.
This is his original sketch.
So what I wanted to bring up here is that here's our full-color rendering that I did with Tom Bogan years ago.
I want to give him credit.
Something like this was going on back in 1958 on the USS FDR.
And it's important to note that the USS FDR had a history carry of UFO sightings because it was the first aircraft carrier to carry nuclear weapons on board.
That's why it makes this unique.
It had a serious history.
Here's the blow-up and this being waving back down here.
This is the world exclusive I'm talking about here.
What you're looking at now is the original, not a copy, not a Xerox.
This is his original sketch.
So I scanned it in at 300 dpi, and I'll just run forward with this.
Me and about 25 people seen this craft, 1958 or 1959.
I think we were off Florida somewhere, shakedown crews, no aircraft aboard at the time.
It hovered two to five minutes.
It turned red and orange, then shot out of sight.
With no sonic boom, I will add.
We had a lot of Navy brass come aboard after that with the Chief of Naval Operations, and the Navy does not say anything about it.
Yeah, that's because what they'll do is they'll go below decks and pull all the logbooks like they always do.
I sent a letter to NICAP of Kensington, Maryland, and to the National Archives and Record Service, Washington, D.C., to see if that UFO report has been declassified.
After a period of time, I went AWOL from the Roosevelt.
Well, I did not return, so we'll get one last look at this.
I'm going to go to the next one here.
To the ship, General Discharge from Active Duty.
Thank you for any information you can help me with, Chester Grzynski.
I spoke to him on the phone 15 years ago.
He's no longer with us.
So, here we have a report from naval personnel who was there at the right place at the right time, filed the report, and this is the original sketch that goes with the report.
We'll continue on.
All right, Kerry.
What kind of unusual UFOs are being seen in Oslo, Norway?
That's the question we want to ask here.
So, this is what they're seeing.
This is another example of what you're going to find in this archive.
I don't think this has ever been seen before.
Oslo, Norway, December 26, 1968.
So I'll just go through the bullet heading here.
One, it says, object move with dancing motion and change shape was seen through glasses 8x40.
See diagrams 1A, B, and C. So if we look off to the left, A, it's kind of got this half beach ball look.
And then he said, It was changing shape.
So whatever this thing was, was morphing into something completely different.
That's B. And then C, something completely different.
So this is what's being seen in Oslo Nora.
This is back in 1968.
Now, next one, drawing two.
First grumbling sound was heard.
Then sharp flashes of light was seen, and cigar-shaped object, four to five meters long, ascended, stopped, and disappeared.
Seemed to consist of shiny rods and five luminous spheres.
I'm going to use Bizarre configurations.
What I'm seeing here, Kerry, is I'm seeing common denominators on these vehicles.
I'm seeing pattern recognition, and I'm seeing the most bizarre configurations, which proves to me that...
What is clear to me is that it can't just be one organization building all these different vehicles.
It just makes more sense that there could be different civilizations, or maybe there's different contractors.
Obviously, there's more than one craft.
There was a notation about Ola Noor, or Ola Nair, which is northeast of Oslo, and that's the location of where these things were found.
That was mentioned in the report.
Let's continue on.
Austin, Indiana, October 20th, 1975.
This is the front cover of the report.
So it's October 1975.
It was the 20th, and you can see his sketch of where this was seen in Austin, Indiana.
So I'm going to blow this up, and we'll go to the area here.
This is kind of the general area.
I'm going to do one more blow-up, and that takes us to the star.
So star marks where this all went down and what he saw, and you know, Carrie, I got to I mean, this is what I have to work with.
This is some of the caliber of the sketches.
I mean, they're rough.
They need to be cleaned up.
So someone has to dig into these files, get this information out.
Clean these up in SolidWorks and AutoCAD and do a full color rendering.
And I'm happy to do this.
And I'm doing the best I can with the resources I have on a shoestring budget.
But someone's got to pull this history out and make it available.
I mean, this is very white.
This one.
Well, I mean, if you look closely, you can see his sketch here.
And he says, red light, windows with white lights shining through.
It was moving counterclockwise, and it was very bright and beautiful.
We could not tell the color of the structure.
And since we were not directly under it, we did not see the bottom.
So they're kind of off over to the side.
This is at night and they're seeing this thing.
So what I did is I...
Now, you can see here the red light on top.
Around the bottom circumference of the craft, you've got these illuminated windows.
Now, I've got at least one other case where they have almost the identical illuminated windows wrapped around the outer circumference, and this whole thing was spinning.
Counterclockwise about the vertical axis.
So, let's see if we can make this come alive with a full-color rendering.
And this was my first pass, just to give you an idea of what this looks like.
Now, I'm going to take it into the darkness now and show you what the windows look like.
And this is a little bit more accurate to what he saw at night, you know.
So, that's the goal in all of this, is to make these cases come alive.
Let's continue on.
Next one.
South Vietnam, January, February 1969.
So this would be in the vicinity, Kerry, of Ho Chi Minh City.
That's where we're talking about here.
We've got four army personnel.
That's who the witnesses were.
Primary eyewitness, here's the original front cover page.
And, you know, this shows you, that gives you the date.
It gives you the investigator.
I won't release the guy's name because this is, you know, things that we'll redact, but the information is there.
We'll go to the next slide here, and this is another one of these scans where when it's on sepia paper, it doesn't reproduce very well, but you can see the barest outline of the craft itself.
Here he says, Outline of shutters windows was visible, although entire ship, including shutters, were a gray, dull, metallic color.
No lights were visible or protrusions, no markings of any kind.
As much as I can recall, the only detail visible on the craft was the outline of the shutters.
No visible vapor, only a whooshing air sound.
So these shutters look more like arches than they do shutters.
So I'm going to go to the next slide.
And this is the craft cleaned up in AutoCAD.
Altitude, 40 feet.
So he was...
No lights or markings.
Witness was trained in observation and reconnaissance in the Army, seen by three other witnesses during combat patrol.
So if you look here on my drawing, this thing was 9.5 feet in diameter, 5 feet tall, and it had these arches wrapped around the outer circumference of the upper dome.
So, Carrie, let me take you to the full-color rendering here, and this is what I came up with.
Very nice.
Just to...
Next one.
I don't have an exact date, 1975.
I don't have the month and day, but this is another sketch within the collection.
So you've got a red light.
It looks like an inverted Frisbee, a red light, a green light, and then this white-yellow light coming out of the center of the craft itself.
I'm betting, Kerry, that these are technically not lights.
I believe these are static electrical discharge probes because I've got similar type configurations on other vehicles as well.
So here's the cleaned up AutoCAD drawing.
I will mention that this is a much higher altitude.
This is 30 feet across.
It was seen at 15,000 feet.
He must have had good eyes to be able to see that kind of detail, but I want to mention that this thing made this very strange zigzagging maneuver.
Not something you would principally see a conventional aircraft or even a helicopter doing.
So we're talking about something different here.
Lights move around the craft in a counterclockwise motion.
Nighttime sighting.
And then on the upper right, I did a detailed drawing of showing you how this yellowish white light came out from the center here.
Here's the full color rendering just to kind of make this case come alive.
We'll move on to the next case here.
Where?
Platteville, Illinois, January 25th, 1969.
Interesting CE2 case.
This is southwest of Chicago.
Star marks the spot.
Let me do a blow-up here.
This is the original front cover of the report itself.
He has a map here.
And this is where the actual incident took place.
So this is Canton Farm Road, intersection of Church Road in Platteville, Illinois.
And I'm going to do the blow-up and go to the Google Maps.
And this shows you where this thing came down.
Very interesting, because flying ice cream cones and teepees?
Yes, we're talking about flying ice cream cones.
In this case, that's exactly what this thing looked like.
Let me take you to the original sketch, Kerry.
This is what it looked like.
This thing was an inverted ice cream cone.
It was three stories high.
It was 30 feet high.
Wrapped around the outer circumference of the craft itself were what looked like roofing tiles.
And then he said it had lattice-type work around the bottom of it.
There was a door or panel that opened up, and then on the very bottom, because this thing tilted up to his location, he could see the bottom of the craft, which had a large white light, and then there was an eye beam on the bottom.
That's what you see on the bottom of the craft on the lower left hand.
Now, while all this is going on, The husband and wife who were in the car, they said that the whole front part of their vehicle, their two front wheels lifted off the ground by three feet.
So it's a CE1 and it's a CE2 because it had physical effects.
This is not something you would forget.
Let me go to the next one.
So I redrew this in AutoCAD.
I did a blow up of the bottom here.
So you can see there was a large light.
There was an I-beam.
There was a spongy black interior.
This whole concept of eye beam carry, I've got two other cases where that's something that was seen.
This strange eye beam that's running along the bottom of this thing.
You can see the lattice work.
I've got a blow up kind of the roofing tiles.
Again, this thing is 30 feet high, 10 feet across.
CE2 effects are as follows.
Number one, engine stalled.
Number two, lights went out.
Number three, UFO lifted front wheels of the car off the ground by at least three feet and then slammed them back down again.
So let me go to the full color rendering here.
And this is kind of what I came up with here.
These craft are seen.
So now we've got teepees, we've got triangles, we've got saucers, we've got cigars, and we've got all the rage now.
Platforms as well.
Yeah.
Very, very strange.
And what was the year again on this one?
This is 1968.
Let me go back one more here.
Let's go back just to be sure.
1969 is where it was.
Okay, they were driving a 1966 Chrysler Imperial.
So if you look at this, 3,500 pounds minimum.
This is not a Ford Escort.
The amount of lifting force it would take to lift the two front wheels off the ground.
We're talking about a tremendous amount of power here.
She actually thought they were going to get sucked into this thing.
That's what she was talking about.
Jalen Hynek did do some research on this case, so he was involved in this as well.
We'll continue on.
November 9th, 1975, 25 miles south of Yonge, Arizona.
So this is the map.
Star marks the spot of where all this went down.
And this is a good example of the kind of sketches that you get here.
I'll just rip through this here.
When I first saw the UFO, it looked as though it was above the road, and I thought that it would probably land on the dirt road ahead of me.
But the closer I came, I could see that it was beside the road.
Or it was above the road.
Very bizarre type configuration.
40 feet across.
I'll do a blow up here.
She's got red lights.
She's got blue lights.
Different colored lights.
This part extended out from the rest of the UFO.
I could not see beings inside.
Very good sketch.
I probably won't redraw this one.
I like it just as is in its rough configuration.
But for someone to go through and write a three-page report and do a detailed sketch, I don't think this woman is lying to us.
I really don't.
That's great.
40 or 50 feet across.
By my estimate height, I have no idea.
Very large.
Large enough to transport the smaller disc-type UFO.
So there's about a three-page report with this.
She did a great job 50 feet across.
This is another example.
This is September 23, 1968.
I'm getting some more information on this one.
I will redo this one in AutoCAD, too.
But, Kerry, I just wanted to give you a brief overview of some of the cases that I'm pulling out of these files.
This is going to be an ongoing presentation.
This will take a year to do because I'm still getting more information.
So, this is like an ongoing research project.
And, you know, I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to join you tonight, Kerry.
Oh, well, are you done?
I'm done for tonight.
Oh, wow, that was fast.
Well, this is, you know, it's just a good indicator, though, for people to see the step-by-step where you start out with the very raw material and then how you guys, you know, take it and bring it alive and actually, you know, preserve it in history as well.
I just want to say that this organization, so I don't know if you have a link to it or anything, but they could use donations.
Isn't that true?
Sure, sure.
Yes.
So can you give me a link later?
I can give you a link, yes.
Okay, very good.
Yep.
All right.
Well, now I because we didn't really announce this, I don't think we have a very substantial impact.
So I'm not going to ask for any questions from the chat room.
We'll just leave it here and we'll get this up on Rumble tomorrow or yeah, probably tomorrow.
And thank you, Michael.
Great job.
really very, very interesting.
I think You know, this is the kind of thing where, as I say, I think Luna should be aware of it, and all of Congress, and they should be going through these files, as you say, because a lot of times they brush them aside and say, nothing to see here.
And on the contrary, these people have had a sighting, they've had an experience, and they document it.
In some cases, they're quite good at it.
they're quite good at depicting what they saw.
That's correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's, that's really interesting.
And, I just want to preserve our history.
I love to see these cases come alive.
I don't want to see them forgotten, buried in a file cabinet.
They need to be alive.
They need to be seen.
I'm with you.
Absolutely.
All right.
Thank you very much, Michael.
I'll let you go, and we'll see you again in the future.
Thanks, Kerry.
Yep.
All right.
See ya.
All right.
Thanks for watching, everyone.
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