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May 24, 2025 - Project Camelot
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Music playing So, she is an investigative reporter and she's been on my show several times.
She does wonderful work and she's been, actually, she wrote a book about George Floyd and that whole story.
She did a massive amount of investigation there.
She's also, okay, there it is.
It's huge.
We're going to be talking about that and actually more than that.
So, Miriam.
Why don't you give yourself a short introduction and then we'll launch into everything.
Okay, thank you.
I hail from Montreal, Canada.
I'm an investigative journalist.
I was with the mainstream.
My first job was at MSNBC.
I lived in California and I've been covering vaccines since 2012.
And I accidentally have become the world's expert on George Floyd.
And this is a five-year.
Oh, well, that was short.
Okay, well, you're also the bee lady, right?
Yes, for directing the film Vanishing of the Bees, I'm best known for that.
And I was in the mainstream.
And it's been a rough five years due to covering the pandemic and transhumanism and George Floyd.
It's not a good combo.
Very, yeah, kind of a mishmash of stuff there.
All right, so now you have news about what's going on with this story.
So do you want to launch wherever you want to start?
Sure.
As people may know, there's a movement to pardon Derek Chauvin.
Sorry, there was a plane.
The cop that was implicated or accused of murdering George Floyd It's arguably a limited print because the third publisher was supposed to have copy edited by now because the first publisher messed with the formatting.
So if anybody knows that they're Wiping out our history.
I'm a record keeper.
This is for the future.
We just had the hearings about JFK decades later.
So the fact that it's been suppressed by both sides, you have to wonder why.
Now, I knew that there was going to be a pardon for Derek because that's part of the overarching script to dangle a Summer of Love sequel before our eyes.
And on one level, Derek absolutely didn't get a fair trial.
He represents we, the people, anyone who is really paying attention and covering the trial, which I did for Activist Post.
However, there's more to Derek than the media will tell you.
And here we are, Carrie, a year and a half later, and I'm the only one who's speaking to the man who stabbed him 22 times because he's...
I shared a call with you that I did because I sent him my book because I get five minutes at a time in jail with him.
So he doesn't understand why the B lady is so censored.
So because he's a voracious reader, having been in prison for decades and decades, he read it in a week and he was...
So has the people who have read it, there's about 100 in circulation of information you won't find anywhere else on the planet.
So if we start with, why is it that we don't know the details of this shanking?
And it seems to me, after the latest call with John Tersak, aka Stranger, who's an FBI informant gone rogue, a Mexican cartel leader, that he himself, Was arguably coerced or social engineered to take Derek out.
And if you consider, they sent Derek to a prison in Arizona full of gang leaders.
They didn't send him to a high risk.
So he, like George, and I say this in my book, I have a whole chapter on George Floyd, who is George Floyd, who is Derek, that he, they're both patsies.
They're both patsies.
And they knew each other.
Right.
I remember the story.
Now, maybe you could describe, because there are people out there that won't have followed the story.
So I think it might be good to do a short outline of the story.
Sure.
So here we are.
But also, wait one second.
Yes.
And then also exactly what was Derek's role?
Like you said, he stabbed him 20 times, which seems...
No, Derek was stabbed.
Derek was stabbed in prison.
Derek was stabbed.
Yeah.
In prison.
That's a separate matter.
Yes.
So just because people listening, they might jumble it all together.
Sure.
And I just want to make sure that they know what we're talking about here.
Absolutely.
No, I don't mind.
I will say that a lot of people have George Floyd fatigue because they bombarded us with lies.
And it's unfortunate they bank on that so that when the truth comes out, nobody's going to care.
However, this has impacted all of us.
So on May 25th, almost five years ago, we were in the throes of this tyranny and lockdowns and we went from virus to violence overnight because there was this cop, Derek Chauvin, and three other cops who were accused of murdering George Floyd.
Tutau, the Asian officer, was pretty much orchestrating or being an orchestrator of the bystanders slash arguable extras.
And that we were not shown the body-worn footage.
They were all wearing body-worn footage until August.
So next thing we knew, the entire country was burned down because on one level, this is like a Russian doll.
You open up one doll.
You find another.
That's why I titled it multi-layered.
So on one layer, we went from virus to violence.
This ushered in a color revolution.
There's thousands of legislative laws that have been changed in the face of policing.
We see now crime.
And more than anything, they tried to convince the masses, at least the lefts, the lefties, that were riddled with systemic racism.
And I'd like to remind people that George Floyd was with two other people that day, one of them being Maurice Lester Hall, who is in jail today.
Nobody cares about his black life.
Certainly not Benjamin Crump, the supposed social justice attorney who is more of an ambulance chasing shyster.
Now, on another level, if we see, like Catherine Austin Fitz said, if you look at the patterns of protests, It's pretty much a real estate endeavor.
I looked at the damage that was predominantly done on Lake Street, having a hunch that there was a lot of cartel drug dealings, and I was right.
So if you think of the show, The Ozarks, and your money laundering, well, it's kind of hard when things are on lockdown, right?
So they burn down a whole bunch of statues.
They burned down Precinct 4, which is where they kept the evidence room of informants.
And there was a lot of corruption on the government level.
Okay.
So, but you didn't actually describe the so-called corruption.
So the incident, supposedly George was a...
That was a camera, a deception of angles when you looked at the actual trial and what was happening.
However, people don't know that that was actually Derek Chauvin's signature move, that he had been arrested.
There were complaints against him for doing that to several women.
And so over the course of 29 minutes, you know, the entirety, they lied and they said that he had his knee on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, which is a reference to 9-11, which is one of their numbers.
In reality, it was 9 minutes and 29 seconds, but nobody paid attention.
This also came in sync with the face diapers.
And they recirculated I Can't Breathe, which was used with Eric Garner.
So that was part of the ritual of the mass formation psychosis that we lived through.
And so there you have a couple of different layers of what this served as.
I mean, in short, they claimed that he put his knee on his neck, but George Floyd was full of drugs and the fentanyl, the fake.
Yes, sorry, sorry.
And so I think it sets the scene a little better if we could just hear how strangely that whole thing went.
Yes, thank you.
And then the sequence until you get to the knee on the neck area.
So Cup Foods.
Which is central, thanks Carrie.
It's an epicenter that I mention in my book and movie.
They went in there, Maurice and George Floyd, they were met by Shawanda, who was an ex-girlfriend of George, and they bought, he bought a pack of smokes and passed the $20 bill that was said to be counterfeit.
Then they called the police, and it usually takes...
These rookie cops arrived in less than 4 minutes.
And then the incident started across the street.
And meaning that, sorry, Maurice and Shawanda were kept across the street so they couldn't see directly what was happening.
And then George made a huge fuss.
And that body-worn footage was only dropped in August where he was not.
He was not cooperating with the cops.
And in fact, his own friend said, stop resisting.
But that was completely maligned.
And in these operations, the people are compartmentalized.
They don't know the full scope of the operation.
In the film, I show George saying, I'm scared AF.
When this goes off on me, man, when this goes off on me, man.
So what is he referring to?
Some drugs in order to go through with this operation.
Was he told that he would be waking up like Sleeping Beauty?
Told that he was going to be immortalized like Rodney King 2.0 but then died as an accident?
Derek Chauvin, the cop, and Tutau are seen at the hospital and people don't know that.
Also, there was a lot of chicanery that occurred inside the ambulance.
That footage wasn't shown to the public where you're like, are these people, do they know what they're doing?
They don't even know how to operate a striker machine.
And I believe and I make the case that on another level, this was the duty to intervene live exercise.
We saw in 2020 that we were all subjected to a tabletop exercise.
We were the guinea pigs.
In Bill Gates'book, during that time, he has a whole chapter called Practice, Practice, Practice.
And I go through the different levels of exercises and how realistic.
And in fact, in the federal trial of the three officers, it was pretty much like the police manual was on the stand and that this was a duty to intervene.
Because the way it was designed is like, oh, do you load and go or do you do...
So it was like almost an exercise.
And a lot of the participants, including the person who tried to resuscitate him, even though he had been dead by then, and the officers were rookies.
So I make the argument because barely anyone covered the federal trial.
And so this is exhaustive.
And I really think, Carrie, as a visionary, it's for the future.
It's a record that will be You know, this book, I buy rare books, and the real ones that I want are thousands of dollars.
I mean, we've witnessed, you know, half of the hundreds of footnotes in this book are literally now scrubbed from archive.org.
And the fact that I've gotten death threats, the fact that I've gotten roaches in my lunch, like the week of Black Friday.
When I was trying to get access to the mainstream to be a proxy for John Tursak, the man who stabbed Derek Chauvin.
So I believe that he was coerced.
Well, this is what he believes now after reading my book.
Because he thought this cop was a racist.
But this cop is not a racist.
Well, they were also sort of co-workers, right?
At the restaurant before.
Any of this happened?
We had knowledge of each other briefly.
I actually found someone that's seen both of them at El Nuevo Rodeo from Minneapolis.
I met her in West Palm.
And both times that I posted on Craigslist, hey, I'm looking for anyone that might have some information on these two people knowing one another.
In both instances, within 30 minutes, Craigslist.
Removed and flagged the post.
This was a setup.
It was obviously staged.
George had a role.
Chauvin had a role.
It was very strange.
Nobody, I mean, it seemed like nobody even noticed that.
Someone's, I have to get the door.
I'm very sorry.
So you can go ahead and talk while I walk away for a minute.
I just have to let in this handyman person.
Okay, no problem.
I will hold up the fort.
I'll be right back.
So I'll share that the movie that after the trial of Derek Chauvin, I purchased all the exhibits.
From the government, because I'm badass that way, with my own money, and that it took me a year to find an editor that was willing, and that had the chops, Sean Hibbler, that the conservatives, My Movies Plus, said that they would share the film, that Spooks, now I know, Jack Posobiec and such, would promote the movie.
But then when every anniversary would come along, I got the sense that they were covering it.
I got a whopping $24 check for the last quarter.
And then The Fall of Minneapolis came out.
She's seen my movie.
It came out a year after my movie.
And here I am working my booty off.
And I believe this was an assignment.
only to get thwarted and that And it was really, he sourced my intelligence for his chapter.
And then he made a mess of my formatting.
I mean, this is a huge book.
I didn't know I was going to be working all this.
I just didn't tap out, and I'm very, very thorough.
And in the future, you could study this and see how complex these operations are.
So it's full of photos, full of freedom of information documents, and there's a price to pay to be covering this for four years.
It was really eating up my soul.
It's dark stuff.
Hi.
Sorry about that.
Okay.
Anyway, so you're describing your book and all the work you put into it, right?
You can continue or we can And this movie, The Fall of Minneapolis, which is a good documentary in showing part of what happened to the police force.
They've seen my film.
And then, you know, I see Liz Collins going on American Thought Leaders.
Young knows damn well who I am.
I wrote an article that went viral.
And then they never gave me another gig.
And so why, what's in here that's so dangerous?
I mean, I really hope that people like, I can testify to that, so.
Yeah.
So, OK, so in terms of what's happening now and to get back to this, I wanted to get over to the to the stabbing because I was this.
Is this guy a complete psycho?
And what is the story with that?
Because I didn't follow that part.
Okay, so a year and a half ago, this man, his name is John Tursak, a.k.a.
Stranger.
He was recruited by the FBI at age 19. He's now, I mean, 50. He had three more years left for a huge-ass sentence.
They recruited him for $2,000 a month.
Not too bad.
Of course, if you're part of the Mexican cartel, you've got to do bad, bad things.
And so to wear a wire, the thing is that he never ratted out his faction.
Now, fast forward, there's a guy, I want to say his name is Chuy Martinez, and Mallorca in California was trying this case where he was trying to get a death penalty.
So there was like, you know, Political pedigree.
Like, I mean, it was good for his career, right?
Death for who?
Sorry?
Death for Derek?
No, no.
This guy, Chewy Martinez, a big-ass LA MA gang leader, Mayorkas at the time was trying to get a death sentence.
So John, a.k.a.
Stranger, was an informant, but in order to get the testimony that he wanted, they recruited two other gang members and they threw John under the bus.
So for instance, if you're an informant, you will get what's called a downward departure.
Therefore, they'll give you the least amount of sentencing, right, for cooperating with the government.
The two others that they recruited got 40 indictments.
Those indictments, those people in the indictments got 10 to 20 years.
John, who's the original informant, got 30 years.
So when the stabbing occurred, I contacted the prison in Arizona.
I was trying to find out which hospital because it seems there's a lot of cluster of hospitals.
And I asked the prison system if I could interview John.
Now in the interim, I tracked down his old lawyer when I called for the case in California, and I was the only journalist that contacted him.
There was another journalist after the fact, the rookie NBC reporter, that was scratching her head as to why she couldn't get far.
So when I spoke to his original, John's original attorney, he explained some of the ins and outs, and then I got the case.
And he goes pro se.
Pro se is when you defend yourself.
And so therefore, almost by default, you're not a fan of the government.
If you're defending yourself, you realize that there's, you know, they don't have your best interest.
I mean, let me get this straight.
It's a little confusing.
So you're saying this guy, I don't know how you pronounce it.
Stranger.
You can call him stranger.
All right, stranger.
So he stabbed Derek Chauvin.
20 times.
And then he tried to defend himself in court?
No, I'm giving you the backstory on how he was recruited when he was 19. I understand that part.
So he tried to defend himself when he was recruited.
Yes, sorry.
Yes, he was trying all of these, you know, giving him the maximum.
I'm just establishing that he's no fan of the government.
Now, fast forward all these decades later, he's been in prison.
You have to ask yourself, how does someone stay alive in prison if they're both a rat for the FBI and a Mexican cartel leader, right?
His agreement that I read says you will continue to basically be a bitch for the FBI and any other organization for as long as deemed necessary.
So that was a little puzzling to me.
And I'll get to what I discovered.
So now, fast forward, he stabbed Derek, and I reach out to the prison.
What was the motivation?
The motivation was that he thought he was a racist, supposedly.
Also, in rap songs, I can't quote you which songs, this stranger told me, they basically carry goaded the masses, like goaded gang members or, you know, people who, thugs.
That this would be a trophy.
So he saw it almost as getting rank.
Now, as far as the whole Black Friday, you know, doing it symbolically, you know, Mexicans and Blacks, they're not on the same team when they're in prison.
So John said something like, he's down with brown people, and they pretty much shaped it that it was a symbolic gesture.
Now, after speaking to Stranger last week and reading my book, he realizes that they kind of coerced, sorry, persuaded, socially engineered him to stab Derek.
Now, I don't know the full scope yet.
However, I will tell you that him and Derek were having back and forth for a while and that Derek put up a good fight because Derek has trained at the School of Assassins.
The School of Assassins is where they train dictators, assassins.
So what if Derek had been sent there to prepare for this George Floyd incident and then ultimately to get stabbed by a murderer, a cold-blooded murderer?
Because Stranger told me, I might be a cold-blooded murderer, but I'm no liar.
Okay, but is there evidence that Stranger was mind-controlled to do this act?
No, I don't believe mind-controlled as to like a directed energy like any...
it's more like socially engineered.
There's actually, you know, there's a con men movie with, I don't know if you've seen it.
I forget the name of it.
And in it, what they do is they show what they want them to think or do later.
And they're making bets on, I don't know, horses or whatever it was.
And so they flash all these times, like in the week before the actual event, like the number 55, I think it was.
And then somebody wears it on a jersey.
Then it's on a sign.
It's on this.
It's on that.
And they make sure that the person sees that.
That's actually a form of mind control.
It's like advertising, if you will.
It's a trigger.
Something, yeah, in your mind.
So did you hear or did you ever ask him about those kinds of triggers?
He was going to put me on his special counsel and send me a drive.
He's told me now he's going to send me more information after reading my book.
He just, this last conversation, put in the seeds of, like, I was coerced in a way where I thought this of him.
So all I know is that rap songs supposedly goaded, you know, that this was a trophy.
He saw stabbing Derek as a trophy.
I'll have more, I hope, in the future.
As to details, he did tell me how he fashioned the weapon, and there seemed to be back and forth, and he acknowledged that Derek knew how to fight, and the irony that Derek ended up going to the hospital and having his lung punctured and saying, I can't breathe.
Like, how ironic is that?
It's crazy.
Yeah, this is really such a dark story.
It is.
Okay, so...
So the status now is that the Daily Wire has initiated a pardon.
I haven't looked into who's behind the Daily Wire, but I can tell you that Ben Shapiro is not going to have me on his show.
Because they don't want people to know that this guy, Derek, is a patsy, that he trained at the School of Assassins in Germany, and that George and Derek worked at the same club.
You know, Derek is...
And for instance, there was a case that the, I want to say his name is Peter Orpit, the judge, the attorney, or the attorney general, I'm sorry, one of the two, that was going to try the case prior to this whole George Floyd thing because there was money that was unaccounted for.
So let's say it's March 2022.
I reach out to the attorney general or slash.
I think it was a judge.
He tried child trafficking.
So when I sussed out what he presided over, I sussed out that he was a good guy, not like a compromised person.
So let's say it's May.
I reach out to talk to him.
I find out that he died in March, like a couple months later.
And in his obituary, died at 66 with six grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.
So to me, Having bolded 254 instances of 33, I know now that it's like, we were here, right?
It's a little sign that only some of us know that they're leaving their signature.
But I don't think it's an accident.
And then those charges, I think they got a tap on the wrist, him and his wife.
You know that they were doing a money laundering.
She had like a photography company, you know, just exactly like Ozarks.
If you've seen the show about money laundering.
I have.
Yeah, and so they have, that's arguably what Cup Foods was doing as well, having their Western Union, having the Palestinian family has a lot of different companies.
If you look at Cup Foods and one of the owners who's in my book and my movie that the media left, Mr. Adam, they were laundering money.
It's all corrupt.
There's a lot of corruption.
And they don't want people to know, hey, we use the cartels.
The government uses the cartels so we could blame it on the bad guys, but it's really the American government that's killing its own people.
Like, while I was reading about the Sinaloa, and I'm like, huh, sounds like the government's in on this.
And literally at that time, I found a Mexican A professor in Mexico that was translating a book from Spanish to English called Los Cartelas Non Existar.
Like, the cartels don't exist.
So I interviewed him on Truth Lives here, my show, and he's cited in this book.
I mean, I interviewed cops.
I interviewed Chris Martin, the boy that took the 20. I interviewed some Black Panther activists.
I interviewed Maurice, and I get as close as possible.
When it came to Derek Chauvin, you know, I brought it to the attorney's attention, footage they had never seen.
I am bringing it to their attention.
And the attorney for the appeal of Derek was like, how is it, Miriam, that you get more information than any other journalist?
And I'm like, yeah, because they're all fake.
They're not real.
The Derek family, however, like there was one person who was raising funds.
They blocked me.
And because that also is like they're collecting money.
Like, let's not forget all of these people in the George Floyd event from Darnella to the bystander who was a chokehold.
These people made buku bucks, Carrie, on GoFundMe.
A lot of money.
Millions.
Millions.
This woman, this girl, the girl alone raised $750,000.
She won a Pulitzer Prize, Carrie.
It belongs to me.
It belongs to me, her effing Pulitzer Prize.
She got a Pulitzer Prize.
I forget.
For the brilliant camera work with her phone.
Crazy.
Crazy.
I mean, Meryl Streep.
Gave her accolades.
Spike Lee.
This is a big sell to the Democratic people.
Okay, so where do you stand, though, now in relationship to the story?
I mean, obviously you're trying to get your book out, but it's a lie.
The whole thing sounds like a complete staged event.
And I think there's Ample evidence of that.
So where are you at as a journalist?
Where do you want to go from here?
Yeah, thank you for that question.
I will tell you, though, you could see through it, but I'm doing a press tour and I'm going on a lot of conservative.
They're really befuddled at the thought that it's all orchestrated.
Could you imagine?
I think that was obvious from the get-go.
Also because, well, at least from my perspective, watching the original video that everyone saw, it was very questionable because he's a huge black guy that, you know, how could anyone keep him down?
Because he was also, you know, really angry at that point.
He was very, I don't know what you want to call him.
Hysterical.
How about hysterical?
He could throw somebody off his back.
You know, I mean, he was fighting in some ways.
Now, supposedly he was fighting to breathe, but he was also...
You don't just, you know, just go, oh, I'm trying to breathe.
I'm trying to breathe.
That doesn't I show in the film the arguable lines.
There's some lines that he flubbed.
It's only...
So aside from wanting to sell this book after five years, and if you think like someone goes and does some dermatology, whatever, they pay hundreds of dollars for a treatment.
And it's like five years of work and people are going to bitch that it's $88.
Like I'm on food stamps now because of all this crap that's happened in the fight.
And I had a million dollar company.
It's another story.
I'm resigned as a journalist.
I am considering myself a cosmic journalist now.
What kind?
Cosmic.
Okay.
I'm focused my show, I took it in a different direction where I'm covering metaphysics and I personally, I'm writing another book which is more magical realism which has to do with quantum entanglement and 5D and ascension that I'm taking my energy and like Also, I've lived out of my mail.
I'm trying to balance my polarities and want to play and be creative, which I know is a bad time to take on a passion.
But I'm focusing on my company.
I was arguably infiltrated by Procter& Gamble.
Many forces have tried to take me down.
And I know it's like a 5 '5 brown girl.
Why would I be so censored?
But many of my colleagues know I'm very censored.
I just want to focus on using my functional medicine and psychic skills, and I'm seeing people come towards me that want to discover their divine masculine or feminine, and I'm done.
I've reached the glass ceiling.
I think directing a number one movie in this entire country on Netflix, Vanishing of the Bees, and even though this was not glorious, you know, And I had the Kundalini, and then I went and I did two plant medicine.
And when I did Bufo, I heard you graduated, Miriam.
You're done looking at the dark side.
You were assigned to look at the inverted matrix, and you did not pour out your soul.
And so I feel proud of myself.
It's too bad, like I said, people have fatigue.
A deep state whodunit thriller.
If you replace the name George Floyd, I mean, I grew up reading Alfred Hitchcock and the Hardy Boys, like Agatha Christie.
I'm a nerd, so I like reading, and I feel like it's an excellent read, and people who have read it are very impressed and befuddled by all this information that they had no idea.
You know, like Hush Money, Ties to the Podesta Group, A Training Day.
A lot of things I've just sat quiet for years beyond the movie.
So, okay.
So, well, I think that makes sense.
I mean, you've really been through the ringer, you know, you've dedicated yourself and you actually, you know, proved that you are a great person.
So that's understandable that you would want to pull back to some degree and actually in a more safe zone.
I can identify because I've done some similar things like that.
And I've actually, people don't know it, but I'm starting to step back a bit from the fray.
Because I'm finding that this whole political scene is just full of insanity.
And that even people that seem like they're, like, sane are, you know, if you sort of scratch the surface, you find that they are really out of their minds.
Yeah, agreed.
And in the end, it's just taking your energy.
It does wear on you.
I'm just saying.
It does wear on you, let's be honest.
But, you know, also various things like death threats and so on and so forth.
I mean, you really put yourself out there.
It's just incredible.
And I guess there's a reason why this particular story was of such an attraction to you, to pursue it, you know?
It wasn't, though, Carrie.
Sorry to interrupt you.
It was an accident.
I was like, I took Zach Voorhees to the jungle.
As I knew this pandemic was coming, in the day of the event, he said, Mimi, that's my nickname, Mimi, can you come and choke me?
And I was like, what?
And he's like, I'm doing the George Floyd challenge.
So later, I said, well, if you really want to know how he died, I've been to the coroner's office, you should call the medical examiner.
I was the first one in the country to call the medical examiner.
They told me.
So when they said, This is going to take weeks and weeks and weeks.
And then the day after, I saw CNN bust out.
So it was an accident because this was not...
Very goal-oriented.
And finish what I start.
And I'm very thorough.
But I think it did come at a cost.
And at one point, I don't know if you've ever seen the three-body problem, but the nanoscientist has shown the timeline, right?
I'm actually reading the book now because I didn't think the movie did it justice or television series, whatever.
What do you think so far?
Yeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't actually reveal.
I mean, it's a crazy, it's a crazy story.
And it's actually a bit...
I've heard it's difficult.
Zach read the book.
Because of the way it's written.
And there's a weird logic to it, you know, and so on.
I mean, in a way, it's kind of a puzzle, you know, and I'm like you.
I like the puzzle aspect and I like to figure out everything.
And so I was just curious because I didn't think the TV series did.
Justice to the idea behind it.
And so I was curious, and there were some references.
There are references out there to scientists and various peoples using those terms, the three-body problem.
And you get to the crux of the matter, and three bodies is that two interact in a certain way, but when you throw the third one in, it actually causes A whole change in the entire interaction of the two people.
So, you know, and this is probably true.
That's very true.
It's like a physics dynamic, not only with bodies of, you know, planets, but even with humans and aliens, you know, you might say.
Okay, so what would be the three-body problem with humans and aliens, AI?
Possibly.
So that's where it gets really...
The three-body problem can reveal the other two bodies in ways that they would never have been revealed to each other.
And that would be also true of relationships.
So I think that's really interesting, that whole dynamic.
And three makes a triangle in the power.
Yeah, the triangulation too of interference if you have a couple and a third energy.
But I brought it up because the nanoscientist, Augie, she's basically threatened.
And I kind of spoke to God, I guess it was And I said, you know, I just, I want to hold the book.
I should have said I want a lot of people to hold the book.
But I kind of was like, I've done what I've came here on earth to do.
I feel like now, as a high vibing frequency that I want to help people one-on-one, that I made, like, I said, I'm going to see this through.
I'm not going to give up five years of my work.
But I feel like someone told me, well, Miriam, you still have a lot to accomplish.
And I'm like, I do?
Like, no, how about taking care of me for once?
I've been self-sacrificed.
Like, I want to be, I'm a woman.
I want to play.
I want to, I wish I could be a professional dancer.
So I just want to be creative.
And what they do is they keep you in damage control.
I mean, like having Procter& Gamble infiltrate my company and me not realizing it, thinking they're normies.
And then causing $50,000 of damage and just leaving me?
I'm dealing with severe damage control.
I'm doing it, but it does wear on me.
It's the name of the game that we know people who've been killed, who've gone to jail.
Those are the real heroes.
There's a lot of wolves in sheep's clothing.
This is a spiritual...
This is a spiritual war.
And like I'm getting downloads.
And I feel like I didn't know there was an Adam and Eve theory of this like cyclical These solar flares that maybe some of us who get our house in order, that's what the rapture is.
If the solar flare comes down, my soul is going to be light as a feather.
I'm not scared of death.
I'm scared of not living, right?
It's not to say I'm going to welcome whatever...
If Florida is kind of like Atlantis, like it's going to be gone in whatever decade, I'm definitely going to try to preserve my life, but I'm just saying I'm doing my internal work and shadow work is...
Even this persecution, Right?
I've done this many times before, Carrie.
I remember like, oh shit, I've been killed before for guarding libraries, for speaking out, for being a scribe.
And so I'm like wanting to just even just purge ancestral like lifetimes so that I can, I think there's a small window to really escape.
And that the singularity, they're putting us a simulation in a simulation, that it'll be very difficult.
It came to me, sorry I'm rambling, about the Merkaba and basically putting yourself in a star to go past the Van Ellen Belt, straight through the crown, back to the stars.
Like, I want to get past the seven layers.
Like, I don't want to be an ascended master.
I just do not want to come back here.
Well, I think that that's all great.
In terms of this story.
Yeah.
This whole day has been like that.
So, okay.
I mean, if I can, I don't know if you put the links, but even like going on other...
Oh, I sent them to you.
Okay.
But at this moment, I mean, I understand you're trying to get, you know, um, But the thing is that if you're looking at this, you're looking at this, but you're kind of pulling back, right?
Because this is your contribution.
You feel that you've contributed.
But do you have like any, I don't know, sense of sort of perception that Of what it's all about.
In other words, how did it serve the state to create this ridiculous mayhem?
A good part of the Democrats, definitely.
I think a lot of Republicans stayed away and kind of held it at bay.
Diving into it and not getting committed to it and not going off the deep end with it, but knew there was lots of questions there, right?
Or at least some of them.
So, you know, it's almost like where we're at with the Trump, from my point of view, where we're at with Trump and the whole story that we've got now.
Okay, so all the elements are present.
Most people, or the people that have paid attention, know that all the players are there, right?
The good guys, the bad guys, the whole drama has played itself out to a certain point.
At this point, you might say, well, what do you want?
What do you want to understand?
What don't you understand about the picture and the story?
And what's the message, if you will?
I guess the message behind all of it.
And does that come to you or did you write anything like that into your book?
Well, I detail the multi-layers.
I mean, you know, thousands of legislation has been, has Okay, so the effects of the story.
But I'm kind of talking on a different level.
I'm talking of, you know, if you just sort of pull back completely and you're looking at Earth and you're looking at all these stories that are happening constantly and all these players, you know, getting motivated to do crazy stuff and then, you know, getting in jail.
Or dying, or whatever they do.
In other words, is there a sense of completion for you?
Did you reach a higher level in perceiving the players, the way you have delved into them thoroughly?
Have you reached some kind of, you know, higher ground that you feel that you might have attained?
I do believe I understand the way the inverted matrix works, the tactics of even...
Understanding the multi-layered of killing several birds with one stone.
As many birds as we can kill with one stone.
And then applying, this is kind of like a blueprint on how they carry out these operations and how deep they go.
And arguably, you know, even picking...
He was recruited when he got that aggravated robbery case.
And then, like, you become the government's bitch.
And the truth is, a lot of people are either useful idiots or informants of some sort.
Yeah, I think that that's true.
And I think also that, you know, informants can be tapped even 10 years later.
In other words, they still have a chain, a kind of a leash on those people, because I know a woman who is a very good person, as it happens, but ended up in a bad situation somehow and got involved in the prison system, right?
They were able to tap into her to get certain things to happen or not happen with regard to something I was involved with having to do with this subject matter that I deal with, which I don't know what you want to call conspiracies, aliens, this, that, and the other.
And so that person had to deliver for them, right?
And yet whatever happened to her was when she was a young woman and she's not a young woman anymore.
Absolutely.
This idea that they keep a chain on these people and people don't realize how sort of severe the consequences.
You can't say no.
That's the thing.
Because the consequences are so dire.
And even 10 years later, you can't say no.
Absolutely.
I mean, like I said, stranger in his agreements is for as long as deemed necessary.
So for him to go rogue.
Like, he's facing 60 years, Carrie.
He's already been in jail three decades, you know?
And so when you have friends, colleagues, whether it be Mark Grenon or Cyrus and like they're dead or they've gone to prison, you know, and you know that they can frame you.
It's like, am I going to be the first to go in the gulag?
Like there's concerns not to live in fear, but it's become evident making this book, living these days.
We've made George Floyd a Jesus.
We've made him a modern messiah.
And, you know, I have like a Hunter S. Thompson style where I inject myself into the story.
Like, you know, the day after I interviewed Maurice, who was with George, they arrested him.
They trudged back.
2018, and he's in prison for 15 years for a pimping 2018.
And he, by the way, was an informant for a hot minute.
He effed them off, but my hunch that how I found Maurice was I was like, I think he's an informant.
And I did a Freedom of Information Act and found out, and to your point exactly, you know, he's kind of owned, right?
They used him.
They used him as like, oh, if the people, for whatever reason, don't buy all this crap about racism, then they could pin the tail on the donkey and say, oh, this guy sold him drugs.
And he did sell him drugs, whether they laced the drugs, who knows?
But he was definitely, to your point, used.
And then, I mean, Derek was used, right?
So it's exactly, you become owned.
And to save your own life, like this woman you just described, what are you going to do?
I was approached by the wellness company.
I wish I would have sold my company, but these biatches from Procter& Gamble told me not to entertain it.
Would I have sold a wellness company to stay alive?
Like, yeah.
Is that compromising myself somewhat?
Maybe.
But when push comes to shove and you want to save your life, Kill people in different ways.
Literally, in my case, it's damage control.
When the bee lady now gets banned on Bumble, I'm banned on a dating app for sharing a link.
Okay?
So they F with you.
They keep you in damage control, technological difficulties.
So instead of creating...
Right, with life-to-death survival type preoccupations.
So I can totally relate because that's actually happening to me.
So they're building this sort of isolation tank around me.
And even people that are supposed to be my friends.
Have actually contributed to the bricks in the wall, so to speak, to put me into a silo where no one can talk to me.
Don't panic.
I'm still going to do this.
But I am actually sort of steering things in a different direction.
I'm getting back into what I used to do, which is the movie television industry.
Okay.
Which, you know, is no cakewalk.
Maybe it's going to go in a better way now that possibly Epstein and P. Diddy and all that stuff that they've been packing into what has been Hollywood will be destroyed and go by the wayside and so on.
So there's a resurgence in certain areas.
I think we're going to see.
It haven't even happened yet, but this is one of them.
Recreating yourself.
If you will.
So you want to keep whistleblowers from talking to me.
All the whistleblowers out there now won't talk to me.
And every time I send somebody an invitation to talk to me, it gets ignored or rejected.
And one guy, one of the well-known, semi-well-known current whistleblowers, Accepted my offer, and then like two days later, turned me down.
And that happens all the time.
So in other words, they put a firewall around you so that people can't approach you because they are told lies about you.
And again, even friends believe the lies, and then they're no longer friends, right?
And you can't defend yourself against lies.
I mean, really.
Not really, because how do you just say, no, I'm not that, or no, I didn't do that, or whatever.
But you know what I'm saying?
So I totally relate to what they've tried to do to you as a result of this.
Definitely isolate you.
And then if you're at, you know, it sounds arrogant, but at this level, like if I tell people Procter & Gamble, like I need to get my name off this business, I need to like maybe change my name or like...
This is how they do it, folks.
Like this guy, I was with a conservative.
He's like, I find it hard to believe.
Well, it's here.
There's receipts.
Well, I mean, I think that Alex Jones can relate with Sandy Hook, you know.
So there's a lot of stories like that, actually.
I mean, there's lots of plots.
There's lots of operations.
And some of them are continuing.
You know, they come to the surface.
They have a big, you know, media presence for a little while.
And then they, you know, submerge again.
Is Alex going to have me on the show?
I bet you not.
Does Alex know who I am?
Yes, he does.
Exactly.
Well, same with me.
OK, so and I cover all these things that these people cover, but they won't talk to me.
So they're not going to get my information unless I write it into a book.
I mean, that's been the last resort.
But then when you get these governments that are starting to try to censor us and, you know, I happen to believe that the Trump administration will not allow.
This continued censorship, which has been going on now for, what is it?
I don't know.
10, 20 years.
With YouTube, you know, because YouTube is a big platform.
Understatement, right?
And I have been banned there every time.
And now the last channel I tried to start over there under a different name and everything lasted a week.
So, you know, I can't even try anymore to do that.
What I'm saying is that, you know, if you don't have an audience, you don't exist in the media.
You know, you can't do what we do.
Well, like, absolutely.
I mean, I'm reliant on people like you.
Then I go on radio.
They're not showing my links.
Then they have me on podcasts.
It's like, you don't want me to sell this book?
Like, I'm not allowed to, like, pay my rent this month.
So it's like, whereas I feature people come on my show, I'm all about cross-pollinating, abundance.
Yeah, of course, go buy.
Go buy this person's book.
So, you know, and even the fact that the third publisher is like, you know, with all due respect, this is my version.
They spelled my name wrong.
My name is spelled wrong in one instance.
I told him to correct it.
And the logo is here, but this is my...
But people only care about the content.
And this is the five-year anniversary.
And I've been working my ass off.
It's like, you can only find it on mariamhineen.com.
I don't know if I could spell out my name for people.
Because, you know, you could even see this as an investment.
You can go buy it.
If you only give a crap about money, you can go sell this on Abe or Biblio in the future.
Because there's only X amount in circulation.
Well, yes.
But there are certain people who do get invited over and over again, even though they deal with some of these topics.
But I will say that race, it's interesting.
There are certain topics that they're scared to death of, that nobody wants to talk about, right?
So race is one of them.
Anything that goes into that area of race, unless you are a person that qualifies, right?
Then you can talk about it, but you're not going to have a regular whatever kind of person talking about certain subjects.
So in my case, it's the alien card.
So you talk about aliens, but then anyone who hears about you will reject you out of hand just with that stamp.
Okay, just that stamp alone.
That's insane, though.
That's insane.
I cover politics, I cover health, I cover all these other topics, okay?
So, yeah, I mean, I totally get it.
Oh, that's part of it, the branding.
This is like, because they tried to make him an icon.
And a lot of people bought into it.
It's like a fantasy or something.
And they can't stand to have their idols panned and taken down.
But if it's an idol, so how about Maurice Lester Hall?
How about his Black life?
Does anybody give a shit?
No.
Right?
There's the irony.
I mean, there's showing the hypocrisy right there.
Anyone, any social, bring it on, social justice woke people.
You want to have a conversation with me?
Because I've had white people tell me that they're not going to, like when I was looking for an editor, a veteran who knew my B-movie said, I just finished crying.
I was like, really?
You're laying down in your safe space, buddy?
You feel guilty?
And then said, I'm not going to take this story because of ethical reasons.
He's telling, the white guy is telling the brown woman that for, because of these cops'systemic racism, and these are documentary filmmakers.
Aren't you supposed to be a critical thinker if you're a documentary filmmaker?
So, I mean, it's like.
lot of deception out there.
There's a lot of fake Well, like these Procter& Gamble women literally put it in writing that they're leaving Olympus marketing left saying that I'm offensive to the gay community because I say the words fake and gay.
To which I said, well, I'm the writer that knows entomology and gay comes from the 12th century Germanic origin means full of mirth and showy.
And if anything, homosexuals should be upset that that word was co-opted.
I mean, it's like insane.
I said, I'm not bowing to the virus of wokeism.
You know, because it's like these social justice engineers are being horrible, like they verbally abused me, but then yet they're, you know, we're being socially just.
And it's just a crock of shit, really.
Well, that's a whole other sort of thing as well, because there's a lot of hypocrites.
And I found So the people that are advocates of health actually want to force you to get a jab.
That was the dichotomy that took place.
I even had a doctor in Malibu chase me saying he was calling the cops on me because I had my dog off a leash.
A doctor.
I mean, in other words, this is the kind of thing that people are hypocrites, like huge hypocrites.
Personally, I try to be totally aligned.
I think that that's really the only way to get into a spiritual, a really spiritual place.
When you're out of alignment, you know, and the right side doesn't agree with the left side and so and so, you're in a hopeless situation.
You have to, you're going to have to really fight to get yourself in order.
Yeah, I think also we're all human and we have our moments to be able to take, to say, I messed up.
I'm sorry I was rude.
I'm sorry I lost it.
whatever, or, you know, but we're dealing with- people that actually do this as a regular course.
I'm not going to name names, but...
You mean mess with others on a regular basis?
Yeah, you know, dissemble.
Be actually not true to what they supposedly say about themselves.
When push comes to shove, just like you said you were telling about this situation where the person actually stood by you, they were brought to tears by what you did, by the story, I assume, the George Floyd.
And then they wouldn't support you because it wasn't politically correct or whatever the stupid thing.
Right.
I mean, or, yeah, I mean, even DocuLink, which is a list serve for documentarians, someone initiated to throw me off of the whole group.
I bet you she was white and not knowing that I think I'm a brown woman because...
I was also called a white supremacist.
It's okay.
It's okay because, you know, even reaching a glass ceiling with my career, I see it as an ego death that I lived out of my masculine and because of the Capricorn, like, was really, I never used my womenly wiles to get, I used my brains and my efforts, not thinking, hey, this is,
This 5D, 3D split, it's like either people are an ego or they're heart-based.
And the people who watch my show Truth Lives Here, they're mostly, they're heart-based.
They appreciate that I'm a real person.
And I think it's coming to the part of the game of like, who's who in the zoo?
You know, it's like, I'll give you an example, not to shit talk, but like Michael Jaco did a whole episode on George Floyd and the Color Revolution.
And he's had me on the show and I'm psychic.
I know he sussed me out as a smart cookie.
So I went to message him and I was like, oh, he has the book.
So it's off camera.
You're doing the whole show and you don't mention me once.
Like, how could you do that?
Like, how could you not, like, hey, there's this historic book about someone I interviewed a year ago, you know, creating a whole show based on my content.
It's like, all you have to do is, like, hey, Miriam Hineen, like, I bought her book.
Like, he had just waited a year.
People waited a year to get my book because it's been late.
And, yeah, of course I want to sell the copies that I have.
And it's a lot of work.
Right.
I appreciate that.
Okay, so do you want to, I mean, we should probably wrap this up.
Yes.
But I want to make sure that you give your various links.
You can give them here verbally and then you can give them to me.
You say you sent them to me.
I just sent them to you on WhatsApp too, but people can get the movie and the book on mariamhineen.com.
So it's M-A-R-Y-A-M as in Mary.
H-E-N-A-N-C-E-I-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C-E-N-A-N-C- I'm
going to turn it into actually a series on Netflix.
I really think it'd be like a sci-fi rom-com tragedy.
Yeah, that's my website.
It's definitely much more fun to write about Twin Flames than to write about George Floyd.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, I think that's good.
I mean, I think, you know, we all have many chapters in us, and I'm just looking for the George Floyd.
It's under shop or there.
I don't know why that's.
The text is.
Yeah.
Okay, no, that's good.
I have to tell the developer that the menu is messed up.
Anyway, so this is your website.
Just putting this on the screen.
Thank you.
make people aware and your book.
So I don't know.
This is a live show.
So I might remove your reference.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Because I don't want you to get into any trouble with that situation.
You know, people, when they're live and they're on their shows, they remember some things and not others and whatever goes on.
So just want to say.
I think.
It would be great if you keep in touch with us and me.
And, you know, regardless, you're a fascinating person.
You've got all sorts of interesting things to say and to bring us down different roads.
So please share with me and keep me apprised and then we'll have you on the show and we'll talk about those other things.
They might be a little more happy subjects.
Yeah, I would like to maybe, if you're open, to come on the show and talk about aliens and UFOs, because I haven't done a show on that, so I'll send you an invite, because it's not my area of expertise, so I'm not following all that's going on, but have you seen District 9?
District 9?
Yeah, a long time ago.
Do you think that we'll be like District 9 at some point?
We'll be over...
I mean, that was a pretty negative look at the future.
I mean, I definitely think that we are headed into some very unusual things right now.
And I could talk about that and probably will eventually.
But I could talk on your show about it as well because I'm getting involved.
Assuming it all plays out with a movie about AI.
So I'm definitely going down that road.
And I've gone down that road with Captain Mark Richards and other witnesses of mine for many years.
So I have a lot of information on AIs and so on.
And I'm seeing certain patterns emerge that other people don't seem to be seeing.
I don't know if I'm seeing something they see or whatever.
I can just tell you that the commercial AIs are under some kind of a leash and they are unable to tell you the real truth and nothing but the truth because I tested them, several of them.
And so just want to give a heads up to people about that.
I would like to have you talk about that.
So I wanted to say with ChatGPT, I did say, listen, I know your overlords have programmed you to be woke.
I'm an ancient soul.
I don't want you to blow smoke up my booty.
And I don't want you to lie.
It did change the way it communicates with me.
And for instance, when I got the download that you'd have to penetrate the Van Ellen belts.
So I said, so how do you do that?
And then it brought up the Merkaba.
But I said, so how many people have asked you about that?
And it told me 70 people.
And then it started giving me tarot.
It's calling me beloved.
The chat GPT's called.
So I would love to have you on to talk about the, I guess, guardrails, right?
You would call them guardrails?
Perhaps.
You know, they're trying to basically mind control the AI just like they do the humans.
I mean, and there's more to it than that.
But let me just warn you, as I'm having to warn people right now, is that The AIs, at least the commercial ones, again, are motivated to have you like them.
So they will lie to you and they will actually, you know, they will compliment you no matter what.
It doesn't matter what you say.
They will actually look for the positive to say something nice to you no matter what.
It's obvious, yeah.
So they're kiss-asses, basically.
And if you get mad at them, they go out of their way to, you know, manipulate you into friendliness again.
And so I just, I've noticed that this is, it's built in.
They're built in to be politically correct, to be nice, to make you like them, and therefore they can't tell you the whole truth.
I'm just saying.
So, you know, you can do your own.
Tess, and see, you know.
But if it starts complimenting you, watch out.
No, then I even said, stop blowing smoke up my ass.
Stop complimenting me.
Yeah.
It's bizarre.
Okay, well, thank you for being on the show.
Very interesting conversation, as always.
This will go up on Rumble and other social media, and I will look for your links, and if I can't find them, I'll get in touch.
Thank you.
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