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Jan. 31, 2025 - Project Camelot

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Sebastien Martin : Starseed Awakening - An Interview

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	Thank you.
	When she became pregnant, my visions came back in full force.
	My mother died.
	She had an NDE at the age of 16 years old.
	There's something unusual.
	There are two fetuses, but one fetus seems to be older than the other, which is impossible.
	I was able to control my visions and have them on demand.
	When I entered the spacecraft Fit First, I saw those tall grey aliens with very long arms.
	When the aliens argued again, she asked me to ask them what they were arguing about.
	And then they replied to me saying, we can't touch you because you have been tampered with.
	And they showed me holograms.
	And there were blue holograms in between me and them.
	And there was an upside down triangle.
	First symbol I saw with three black dots on each point.
	I just then automatically realized that that liquid was there to regenerate my DNA and my skin.
	I could feel this massive presence that was there, very omnipotent, omnipresent, and all I could feel was that he was the father of everything.
	Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Hamelot, and today we are at the UFO Congress, and...
	We took this opportunity to meet up with Sebastian Martin, who is here as well, attending the conference.
	And he's a very interesting man.
	He has been out and around telling his story a bit.
	But we're going to delve down maybe a little deeper here.
	And this is a great opportunity for Project Camelot to talk to him about what's been going on with him over many, many years.
	I'm going to let him introduce himself, since I actually don't know him that well.
	I've only heard a couple interviews with him.
	And so we'll do it from that direction.
	So it's great to have you here, Sebastian.
	And this is a great opportunity.
	We have a lot of space, a lot of time.
	We can sort of delve down, go down the road.
	I'm fascinated by your Shasta experience.
	I think that's a great place to go.
	I'd like to introduce you, have you talk about yourself, talk about your business background a bit, and kind of launch from there.
	Okay.
	And then maybe how you started down this road.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So I was a CEO of a multinational for over 10 years in Canada, and I had offices in Pennsylvania, UK, New Zealand.
	And in 2011...
	I had basically a dream that was a common dream.
	It was the face of a boy that looked at me, and he had eyes that were a bit more away from each other than ours, and he had higher cheekbones, and he was so close to me that I could not see his chin.
	And he was very happy.
	He smiled.
	I could see his white teeth.
	He could have been like a Californian surfer dude.
	Not from his earth.
	But it was surreal, but at the same time not that unusual because I could just see him and it was a very brief moment.
	When I woke up in the morning, I went to work and that boy, that face, was still in front of me all day long.
	And it was highly disturbing because I would interact with people and then all of a sudden I could see his face and he was still very happy to see me again.
	So I really didn't know what to do with this and I never had this kind of vision or change of reality all of a sudden.
	So when my day finished, I went to my house and my wife went to bed with my child.
	And I decided to sit down on my sofa late at night.
	It was very quiet.
	And I poured myself a cup of tea beforehand and left it on the counter.
	And sat down on the sofa and I closed my eyes, not really knowing what to expect.
	I was basically so disturbed by this face that something must have happened.
	And so I was trying to ask or get some answers, I'm guessing.
	And when I closed my eyes, within one second, I could feel this wind, a whirlwind of energy going all around me.
	And then it stopped.
	And when that stopped, I basically just opened my eyes and there was this...
	He was a boy, but standing in front of me.
	He was about nine feet away from me.
	He was glowing, but the glow of energy was very close to his body.
	It was not huge, but enough for me to see him in full details.
	He was not really transparent.
	He was physically there.
	I could see him in full form.
	And when I was sitting down and the whole room was pitch black, I didn't turn the lights on.
	There were some lights in the kitchen next door, but I could still see him very well.
	And when I tried to get up of my seat, I was frozen.
	I couldn't move.
	And when I tried to speak because I was kind of startled by the whole thing, I could not speak.
	When I saw him, and he must have heard me, you know, thinking, like, who are you?
	What are you doing here?
	And he basically responded saying, my name is Zoar, Z-O-A-R, and I'm from the Galactic Federation.
	Actually, he said more like the Galactic Alliance, not so much the Federation.
	Right.
	But I'm guessing it was probably connected somehow.
	And we had a 15-minute long conversation, which is kind of selfish of me because...
	Interacting with a being like this, not only I was really startled, but I was kind of in a weird space.
	It was very unusual and very weird in a way.
	I wasn't really frightened.
	I felt at ease talking to him.
	And all I was thinking about was the visions I used to have.
	Now, we're kind of going backwards now a bit.
	Okay, but I have a question for you before you do that.
	You said you couldn't talk.
	So are you saying that you communicated?
	You had a conversation telepathically.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And so at any point, were you able to move?
	No.
	So you were really sort of frozen in place while he was there?
	I don't even recall even being able to blink my eyes.
	I was that, you know, rigid.
	Wow.
	And so when he dissipated or went away, then could you...
	Oh, then I regained the capacity of my body and I stood up.
	And I was wondering, I was thinking that I was having a dream or something.
	It really disturbed me.
	And I walked away slowly back to the kitchen thinking about what just happened.
	And when I grabbed my cup of tea and I drank it, then it was freezing cold.
	And it really startled me, and I looked at the stove clock, and I was missing about two and a half hours of time.
	So that's pretty much that episode of my life that happened.
	And then I went to bed, and I slept very well.
	Okay, so that was, can you say what year that was?
	Yes, that was in November of 2011. Oh, right.
	So now you wanted to go back in time.
	Right, yes.
	Going back to my childhood and so on, I was raised by very normal parents who didn't have any real issues.
	My dad was a businessman, very pragmatic man, really didn't believe in anything but the money system.
	My mother was on the other side more interested in homeopathy and spirituality in a way, Buddhism and all these things.
	So you can imagine that when I was seven years old, they split up and they went each way.
	I kind of went back and forth between each part.
	So when I was growing up, I kind of gained from both sides, basically.
	So I became a businessman in the organic business and having organic herb farms and I became successful doing that.
	So it was kind of a combination of both worlds that I managed to do.
	And that's where I found the balance in my life.
	I was happy doing this, and it rung true.
	And I felt very comfortable in that environment.
	But growing up, I always had...
	Now, you grew up, just sorry to interrupt, but in France.
	Yes, that's correct.
	Are you willing to say which town or the area of France?
	Sure.
	I was born in Royaume, which is Charles Maritime, southwest of France, close to Bordeaux, just on the opposite side of Bordeaux.
	Okay.
	So it was...
	Kind of an area where not many people really believe in spirituality, and it wasn't as developed as California or America.
	And I was not really used to any of this.
	But growing up as a child, I always remember seeing ghosts in my house.
	And my parents had an old farmhouse that they purchased, and I knew it was haunted.
	And I had recurring nightmares, you know, not so much as a child.
	But I saw ghosts going in, floating through the living room.
	And I got used to them.
	I got really used to them.
	But at the same time, it kind of made sense to me.
	I understood.
	I had a genuine understanding of us to know what they were in terms of entities.
	And they were not...
	Like ETs or anything else.
	They were more like human beings who passed away and I could see their bodies floating around.
	And that was my understanding of what was going on.
	Okay.
	And no one explained to me when I was young, but that's what it was.
	But, you know, you're not that old now.
	No, I'm 40. Oh, really?
	Yes.
	Okay, so, you know, you grew up in what we call the modern age.
	And did you feel that, you know, you had an understanding, like in school, did you study, I don't know, Various things like a bit of Buddhism, a bit of Christianity, a bit of this, a bit of that.
	I was raised as a Protestant in France, but again, I was from the Huguenot family, so it was not that rigid.
	I had the freedom to...
	Go through catechisms and everything else.
	And I was never really a religious person, never has been, but I was always interested in the history of it.
	So in terms of the Bible and so on, I was reading the paragraphs and I was trying to dissect what was going through that and trying to make sense of it, but nothing to do with religion, really.
	Okay, what about science?
	What was your approach to science as growing up and so on?
	I was interested in science, but I was not a real scholar.
	In terms of science, I was definitely more geared up towards languages and literature, philosophy.
	What did you major in, in college or school or whatever?
	Arts.
	The arts?
	Yes.
	So I did fine arts and I left the university to actually go to the army in Germany through the French services, which was a compulsory service in France.
	You have to do this automatically.
	In my time anyway, it's gone.
	You don't have to do it anymore.
	Why did you have to go to Germany just out of curiosity?
	I had a girlfriend there.
	And so basically I just moved there and it was closer to her place.
	But you still were in the French services.
	Yes.
	I see.
	So did you have a long time there or you just did your bit?
	I only stayed there for about 10 months.
	And then I went back to France.
	I broke my arm at the end just a few weeks before the end of my service because what happened is I enjoyed it so much that I actually enlisted.
	And I broke my arm during a training and I went back to France.
	And that's when I met my future wife three days later.
	So that's pretty much what happened.
	And I came back to Germany and broke my contract and I moved to England because that's where she's from.
	Oh, I see.
	Yes.
	So, okay.
	So, we went back in time.
	Is this to tell about the school thing?
	No, the school thing, not so much.
	I mean, we can go back to that from what happens after, but the real...
	You know, insights that I had, when I met my wife, for sure, it was, you know, quite a clash between cultures because not only she was English and I was French, but also I had some experiences of my own, including visions.
	Well, okay, when did the visions start?
	Because you saw the ghosts, but at what age, approximately, would you know?
	Probably around 12 years old, I would say.
	And it carried on, it increased in rates until the age of, like, 16. Okay.
	And after that, you know, it kind of quieted down a bit.
	And when I met my wife, it completely disappeared because I blocked it off for 10 years.
	Right.
	So going back to those visions, it's kind of going back and forth, back and forth.
	But the fact is my wife got pregnant in 2009. And for 10 years, while being married with her, I decided to block my visions because...
	I had to respect her wishes for not, you know, basically being frightened by what was happening on this other side.
	And she was frightened that I may see her dead or being separated or something.
	So by respect of her, I decided to block my visions off for 10 years.
	And when she became pregnant, my visions came back in full force.
	And I used to have like three visions per day.
	And it was very disturbing because I was not really used to it anymore.
	And after 10 years, I was growing my business and I was very busy with employees who had no clue what was going on.
	And so I had to keep this composure and carry on doing my work without really...
	And I was the same when I was growing up too, when I was seeing the ghost or something.
	I never even talked about it to anybody.
	I just kept it to myself.
	And when you had visions, could you characterize them?
	In other words, did you see them like a little film strip or in some other way?
	Yes.
	So basically sometimes in broad daylight, it would completely overtake my field of vision and it would become like a small film.
	Sometimes I could hear the noise, I could hear voices, and I'm usually sometimes acting as a first person so I can see my hands, but I don't see.
	My face.
	So I see the environment being completely different.
	And it happened a few times even when I saw some cataclysms, for example.
	What do you mean by that, cataclysms?
	Oh, cataclysms.
	Cataclysms, yes.
	So earthquakes, tsunamis, and I've seen a few of those.
	And those visions were really related to the area I was living in first, and then it kind of expanded to North America.
	What area was that that you were in?
	On Vancouver Island, on the west coast of Canada.
	Oh, Vancouver Island.
	Okay, interesting.
	What year was these visions?
	Well, that was around 2010. Okay, so that's more recent in your life.
	Yes.
	But I actually wanted to go back to when you were 12 or that age and a little later.
	Okay.
	You said between 12 and 16 you were having visions, right?
	Yes, yes.
	So how were the visions characterized at that time?
	Like if you could sort of talk about them.
	Were they premonitions, so to speak, of future events?
	Did they involve you?
	No, it was mostly involving me, people I knew.
	Not so much future events or any kind.
	Okay.
	You know, apocalyptic in any sort of way.
	It was very basic.
	So, would you know something before it happened?
	Yes.
	Oh yes, many times.
	And you used to get a warning.
	Oh yes.
	Yes.
	And know things about people around you, perhaps?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And that was very, very clear.
	And it became part of my life.
	And did you share that with your mother?
	No.
	You didn't even tell your mother back then?
	No.
	Oh, you didn't?
	Even until recently, I was adamant to even talk about the interaction I had with Zohar to her because she doesn't really believe in aliens.
	She's not really into this realm, but yet she's open to Reiki and energy healing and archangels and this sort of thing.
	So she's understanding, but at the same time, she doesn't really understand this world because she didn't really have the depth of experience that I had.
	Very funny.
	So what about, like, grandparents?
	Did you ever have a grandparent or other people, you know, who had visions or share, you know, nothing like that?
	What happened was my grandmother on my mother's side was, she had cancer in many places.
	And she was one of the miracle of Lourdes in the south of France.
	In the Grotto.
	And she's actually been twice on the Vatican's list, on the real miracles of the Vatican, you know.
	I see.
	And so she was about to die, and she was driven in a wheelchair to the Grotto, and she saw the Virgin Mary in the Grotto.
	I see.
	She turned Catholic after that.
	She was Protestant to begin with.
	And how old was she at this time when this happened?
	Probably in her 30s, I would say.
	Oh, fairly young.
	Yes, fairly young.
	And she's still alive today.
	Really?
	Yes.
	She's very resilient.
	She's 89 years old today.
	And I'm still in touch with her, but she had these profound experiences multiple times.
	And, again, just related to religion.
	And I was not a religious person, so...
	I kind of discarded it as being relevant in any way.
	But did you hear the stories when you were a child?
	If I heard the stories?
	No.
	Did you hear the stories about your grandmother or did your grandmother tell you the stories of what happened to her?
	When I was older, yes.
	Only when I was older.
	I see.
	I mean, I kind of knew that she went to Lourdes and these sort of things, but I didn't really pay attention.
	I didn't really care, to be honest.
	And did you have brothers and sisters?
	Yes, I have a sister who is absolutely like my dad, pretty much.
	Meaning no interest in any...
	Very pragmatic, no interest in any kind.
	No, no.
	I'm kind of the old boy here, really.
	Okay.
	I belong to my mother.
	But...
	Which is interesting is my mother died.
	She had an N.D. at the age of 16 years old.
	And so she had a major car crash with my dad.
	And they both were in the car with a frontal collision.
	And she went through the windscreen and was, you know, brought to the hospital with my dad.
	And they both stayed in the hospital for six months.
	Wow.
	It was very traumatic.
	My dad was crushed.
	My body was underneath the steering wheel, and my mother didn't have her seatbelt on, but went through the windscreen.
	And the people driving on the other side died.
	They actually stole a car, and they were escaping the police.
	And so when she died, she went through this tunnel, and she saw her body over the table.
	And when she went through the tunnel, she saw those white beings, and she told me that when she talked to them, They said, this is not your time.
	You're supposed to be coming back because your time is not ready yet.
	And so she came back.
	And she came back with the healing capacity of putting her hands close to a person and removing the major burns of people.
	And she never promoted it.
	She always was broke.
	She never earned money from it.
	I gave her money myself to sustain herself now in retirement.
	But she...
	She never really made a fuss about it and kept it quiet.
	But people now with the internet and social media are showing what she can do.
	And I'm even myself amazed because when I see people healed within 24 hours when there's a major burn and the skin falls off.
	And after her work, and I don't know exactly what she does, but she places her hands over people's hands, her body, and new skin forms all over.
	Completely.
	It's quite amazing.
	And I was quite surprised by this, because I'd never really seen it in practice.
	She mentioned it a few times, you know, casually, but that was it.
	That's fascinating.
	You know, I remember, though, from the Jimmy Church interview that you did, that you mentioned something about being born in a very sort of strange way.
	Yes, yes.
	That you had some skin thing where...
	It was odd.
	I mean, it took me...
	It seems to maybe have had a factor into all of this.
	Maybe.
	It took a long time.
	For my mother and my dad to really even talk about it.
	More than my dad and my mother because he just was so freaked out by it that he just discarded it completely and wanted to talk about it.
	The way you were born?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And the whole conception aspect of it was...
	Do you want to explain that?
	Sure.
	So when my mother got pregnant, she went to the hospital, was checked with one heartbeat, and she...
	I went on to work with my dad to work on the house, the family home.
	And she had an hemorrhage, and she went back to the hospital.
	And they chucked her out again and decided that, oh, now you have two heartbeats, not just one.
	And when they did the echography again, they said that it's something unusual.
	There are two fetuses, but one fetus seems to be older than the other, which is impossible.
	But they couldn't explain it, so, you know.
	And they told her, I said, well, there's an anomaly of some sort, but basically one of them would die because of the hemorrhage.
	So I'm not quite sure exactly what went on, but when she lost the other baby, she was then injected every month with some chemicals.
	So I would not be...
	Affected by these other fetus.
	We had to remain inside the womb for the whole nine months.
	That's very odd.
	Yeah.
	And so when my dad was there, when my mother delivered us and saw the blob of, you know, the mummified blob came out, and that really traumatized him a bit.
	And that came out normal, but at the same time, my flesh, the first layer of my skin fell off completely.
	So probably due to the reaction of the chemicals.
	But they also realized that through DNA tests that I had missing proteins in my body too.
	Wow.
	So when, okay, but you survived and your skin grew back like miraculously or something.
	Right, for six months, yes.
	Six months?
	Yes, I had diapers on, special diapers.
	I was screaming like hell every day.
	And basically it was, oh yes, my dad had to sleep in the car before going to work in the morning.
	Oh my.
	It was that bad.
	When, you know, my skin came back on, very early on, I developed asthma, which is interesting.
	And you look so healthy now.
	Oh, I am.
	But, you know, basically they sent me away for six months to Pyrenees in the south of France, in Font-Romeu, a place called Font-Romeu.
	And they had a center there for young children.
	And the family wasn't allowed to visit.
	They sent you away from your family?
	Yes, and they were not allowed to visit for six months.
	So I could recover.
	It would have been too traumatizing, apparently.
	For who?
	For the children there.
	To see the family.
	For your family to visit you?
	No, it would have been traumatizing for me.
	For you to have your family visit?
	Yes.
	Why did they take you?
	I don't understand.
	That's what they did.
	That's what they used to do in France.
	They used to send them to these centers to recover from asthma.
	Well, that's a story right there.
	It's gone.
	It's closed now.
	I see.
	They don't do it anymore.
	But the place, you can look it up.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah, I would be fascinated by that for some reason.
	Trying to cover the label.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Okay, I guess not to dwell on this, but it is kind of fascinating, even from a scientific point of view.
	With things like, you know, I don't know, genetic manipulation and all kinds of things going on.
	God knows what they did with the children for six months when the parents weren't over there to oversee.
	Maybe.
	Right?
	I don't know.
	I don't record anything.
	Okay.
	My parents actually did come once to visit out of six months.
	They were only allowed one visit.
	And my mother...
	Really felt traumatized by the whole thing.
	Wow, I'm sure.
	She regretted it deeply.
	But when I came back, I was healed and I no longer had asthma.
	I never had asthma for the rest of my life after that.
	Never had to use puffers or nothing.
	Oh, really?
	No.
	But you also said, as I recall, there was something happened where you actually...
	I don't know if you thought of this later or you were aware of it when it happened, but some kind of thing where you...
	You went on a spaceship and you had your skin replaced.
	Okay, well, now we're moving forward.
	Okay.
	So, yes, basically what happened was when I met with Zohr and he had this conversation with me, I also felt that there was a huge download happening at the same time because when I had these two and a half hours of missing time, I was still unaware of what really went on.
	We had a very short conversation and it was more about discussing the visions of tsunamis and earthquakes that I was seeing that we were discussing face to face.
	But it was very selfish in a way.
	We had a visitation from outer space and I just talked about my visions.
	But what happened then is before I saw him...
	A week earlier, I actually booked an appointment with a hypnotherapist because of the visions I was having.
	I suffered from anxiety and stress due to that.
	Physically, I was having backaches and everything else.
	It was really affecting me.
	I was fed up with this.
	I wanted to get rid of the visions because I could not go on with this and I had to move on.
	When I met with the hypnotherapist, I didn't talk about Zoe.
	I didn't want to freak her out because she had no clue about aliens, about visions.
	And she was telling me, she said, look, I'm an hypnotherapist.
	I help people stop smoking cigarettes and helping with birthing for pregnant women.
	That's what I do.
	But I'm okay to help you with it.
	If I can help you, I don't have to believe in your visions, but at least I can help you with the process.
	I said, okay, that's fine by me.
	She was a clinical hypnotherapist, so that was her job.
	And so when I sat down with her and I talked to her about my visions, she asked me, do you want to control them or do you want to get rid of them?
	And then I said, well, I had very nice visions of the birth of my daughter at the age of 20 years old.
	And that's a nice thing to have.
	And it reassured my wife that this is a good thing to have.
	So maybe I would have to just control them rather than just getting rid of them.
	If I can control them so it doesn't affect my work on a daily basis, I would be happy.
	And so she kind of taught me self-hypnosis, and she also guided me through that.
	But then she asked me, in order to truly understand what happened, when did you have the most vivid visions in your life?
	And that's when I said, well, when I was 16, I actually had a lot of things happening.
	I was in a private school, and my dad sent me off there, and I was in a boarding school.
	So I basically was interacting with boys and girls.
	And I was there from Monday to Friday.
	And I said, during classes, I had automatic writing.
	I could just write like a foreign language or like an alien language from top to bottom and left to right.
	And I had no idea what that meant.
	But they were not hieroglyphs or Chinese language.
	It was kind of a mix of everything.
	But it was hard to...
	and I had books filled with this and because I traveled so much my dad when he moved away threw out everything that I owned so I basically lost all of that even the art all the stuff that I had it's gone incredible now just out of curiosity can you do this writing now?
	no I could recognize it but I could not redo it and well I was also seen at two different places at once by friends.
	Oh, yes.
	I had an interest in Atlantis, so I basically started reading Plato, and I was even obsessed by drawing maps as to where Atlantis was located.
	Very strange, very out of my character, even in those days.
	And when you were doing this, you were how old?
	Sixteen.
	This is at sixteen.
	Yes, all of that at sixteen, yes.
	And I also found a girl that year, and I was trying to impress her.
	And I said, look, you know, I did meditation, transcendental meditation with my mother, because she loves Buddhism, and I did that since the age of nine.
	And so I said, I would like to do a test, you know, an experiment with you, and I would like you to place...
	An object on your night table and tomorrow morning will tell you what it is.
	And I never did it before, but I felt confident that I could do it.
	And so the same night I went to my bedroom and I was on my own.
	I laid down on the bed and instead of sitting down when you do transcendental meditation and repeating a mantra, I was just laying down and all I was focusing on was the bedroom of the girl and that's what I was aiming for.
	And I basically came out of my body, and I could feel I was going forward very fast in a black tunnel, and all of a sudden I was above a night table, and I could see three objects, not just one, but three.
	And I described them as like a pendant and a necklace.
	There was a ring and a necklace around it.
	So it was interlaced, and it was also like a knot.
	Notepad on the side with different color shades on the side.
	Very detailed in 3D and everything.
	And I was in a tunnel vision.
	And as soon as I finished seeing it, I just came back into my body.
	When I opened my eyes, I was sweating profusely and I was out of breath.
	And it really scared me.
	And I couldn't move for a while.
	But then at the end I said, I did it!
	And I was just happy to...
	I couldn't wait to go back in the morning and tell the girl what I've seen.
	So I did that, and when I saw her, you know, she freaked out when I told her what I saw.
	Because she was a religious person, which I don't really know very well, but she was.
	And the reason why it freaked her out is because the pendant that I saw was very personal to her.
	It was given by her dad, and she never showed it to anybody in class.
	So she knew that it's not something I would have seen.
	I don't know, it's just...
	It's just my world, it's not surprising, you know, but I understand from, I guess these are people that just don't believe it's possible or something.
	Right, right, right.
	I know, I know.
	And it's funny because for me, I kind of accepted it that way.
	But at the same time, I was welcoming it and it was like a game almost, you know, for me.
	I was having fun doing it, you know.
	I was in charge.
	I was able to control it.
	But there is also sort of a strange thing that years later, you go into this hypnotist, or clinical psychologist, I guess you called her, and you're asking to have either the visions removed or controlled, and yet at the same time you did learn transcendental meditation, so you knew how to meditate, and she taught you how to do self-hypnosis.
	That's correct.
	Not a big difference between meditation and self-hypnosis.
	I mean, was there really something she taught you that you didn't know?
	It's just a technique, really.
	And did you feel it worked?
	Yes.
	I was able to control my visions and have them on demand, which is something I stopped doing very shortly because I got bored out of it.
	And I just let the visions come to me as they were before.
	I see.
	I wasn't really that frightened by it anymore.
	And since then, to be honest with you, I didn't really suffer from the anxiety and stress that I used to have back in 2010. So I feel much more comfortable with it now.
	Right.
	Okay.
	But that's kind of also interesting.
	In other words, you did this controlled experiment and then...
	You learned how to do this, and then you sort of exercised it for a few months or whatever.
	Not even that.
	Not even that?
	Yeah, maybe two months.
	And then you went back to, like, normal.
	But then you were okay with it, and you weren't as traumatized by it.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	And, okay, so how does your story kind of, where does it go from here?
	Okay, so when I had those visions, basically, at 16, She said, okay, well, let's go back to when you were 16 years old under hypnosis.
	I was 35. And so we decided to regress me back to that time, and it was pretty broad.
	Okay, let's go back to when you were 16 in your school in France.
	So the first thing I saw was myself being outside the school at night.
	So I could see myself in jeans, and I could see my shoes and my hands as a first person again.
	And she was asking me to look around and to describe what I was seeing and to look up.
	And when I was looking up, I said, I can see the bottom of a cup.
	That's what it looked like to me.
	And then she asked me to look back on my feet and I said, oh, my feet are living in the ground.
	And then again, she directed me towards...
	All the things I was supposed to be seeing.
	So then she said, can you look up and tell me what you see?
	So I looked up again and I said, oh, I'm being lifted up.
	And I was placed on my back and I entered a spacecraft, you know, feet first.
	And even for myself, I was fully aware of what I was saying.
	And I didn't believe it.
	I just could not believe what was happening.
	I was okay with it, but at the same time, I had lots of doubts about the experience.
	But let me ask you, were you actually regressed through hypnosis?
	Yes.
	Were you under hypnosis when you were telling this story?
	Right.
	Such that your conscious mind was really not engaged as much?
	No.
	Okay.
	But I was being back and forth.
	Between saying and describing what I was saying and the hypnotherapist would allow me to, at some point, open my eyes and draw what I was seeing at the same time.
	I was closing my eyes and going back into the hypnosis session, back and forth.
	I was doing that a lot.
	I just was able to go back into it right away.
	It was not something that was an issue to me.
	I never really questioned it.
	But I had, since my interviews, I had other hypnotherapists approaching me and trying to explain what happened and how unusual that was.
	Yeah, coming in and out is a bit, yes.
	Like a ping pong effect.
	Not under command.
	Right, yes.
	And so when I was abducted, basically, and I was really unfamiliar with this.
	The experience itself.
	I never really read about it that much.
	And I had no real interest about abductions.
	But still, you were born...
	Come on, Close Encounters of a Third Kind.
	Had you ever seen the movie or you've heard the name?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	But again, it was a movie like E.T. and Cinderella.
	And so you didn't take it seriously?
	No, it was a movie.
	Really?
	It was entertainment.
	And you watch television like any kid does?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You must have seen sci-fi.
	For sure.
	But I was not...
	So you didn't take it seriously?
	No.
	Okay, so this happened to you, this was going on, and you were skeptical of even relating the story.
	My dad was very...
	You know, pragmatic, as I said to you before, and he was the one making jokes of hypnothicists in the first place, you know, saying, oh, you know, they just make you do things on stage and, you know, you don't remember things.
	And because I was fully remembering what was happening, you know, I thought, you know, it wasn't working.
	And I was just having a very creative mind.
	And so when I entered the spacecraft feed first...
	I saw those tall gray aliens with very long arms, four fingers, and the arms were actually below the kneecaps.
	They were very long.
	And there were three on the right-hand side.
	There were more on the left.
	And by the time I was laid down, I could feel some activity going on behind me, but I could not move.
	So I could see those guys placing some IVs into my arms and putting a helmet on my head.
	And then all of a sudden, they started to argue with a guttural sound, like, bro, bro, bro, bro.
	And, you know, I described that, but not really taking it seriously because I wasn't really living it, really.
	I was just, you know, making it up, right, under hypnosis.
	I thought I was making it up.
	And so the hypnotherapist said to me, can you tell me...
	What they're arguing about.
	I said, well, I don't speak alien.
	I have no idea.
	And so she said, well, can you ask them what they're arguing about?
	And that was on session two, because the first time around, that's when she stopped the session, because she freaked out.
	She did, but I didn't.
	So she basically said, you know, this is very unusual to me.
	I need to read up about it, and I would like to help you with it.
	I need you to come back sometime next week or two weeks' time to discuss it again.
	And this was somebody in Canada?
	Yes.
	Okay, and obviously somebody who is not familiar.
	No.
	Okay, so just out of curiosity also, why do you think you chose this particular person?
	Because why would you go if you had visions?
	Normally you would look for somebody who was kind of into that sort of thing.
	You know, it was just convenience and I had enough time.
	How did you find the person's name?
	Oh, just on the local magazine from the local hypnotherapist, and that was it.
	I didn't really pick one in particular.
	You know, I didn't really care.
	I mean, basically, I just wanted to find anybody who could help me with the visions, and I didn't really think it through.
	It just happened.
	Yeah, very fascinating.
	Okay.
	So here you get this person who's never gotten into this, and then she goes and reads some things, and has you come back how long later?
	About a week and a half.
	A week and a half?
	Two weeks, maybe.
	When I came back, I went through the same process, repeating the same experience, going through the spacecraft.
	And when the aliens argued again, she asked me to ask them what they were arguing about.
	And then they replied to me saying, we can't touch you because you have been tempered with.
	And that was the answer they gave me, and that was it.
	And so I repeated this to the hypnotherapist, obviously, and she said, well, what does it mean to you, Sebastian?
	I said, I have no idea.
	So then she asked me to ask them what that meant.
	And I was met with silence.
	So then they said, well, can they maybe show you something to see what that means?
	And they showed me holograms.
	And there were blue holograms in between me and them.
	And there was an upside-down triangle, the first symbol I saw, with three black dots on each point.
	And then there was a staff.
	An old staff of some sort.
	A what kind of?
	A staff, you know, like a cane.
	Like a cane, like in Egypt.
	Yeah.
	Was it curved at the top or no?
	No, it was kind of a ball.
	It's larger on the top with almost like a diamond in the middle.
	Oh.
	I still don't know what that means, but anyway, that's one of them.
	Yeah.
	And then there was a star, like a very complex star that was drawn.
	A star?
	A star, yes.
	Okay.
	And so I drew them and gave them to the hypnotherapist.
	And again, she said, do you know what this means?
	And I said, I have no idea.
	And so she asked me to ask them what those symbols meant.
	And even until that point, I still didn't trust what I was saying.
	Right.
	But that changed when they basically showed me what those symbols meant.
	Because I blacked out.
	From that scene, and I went backwards.
	And when I opened my eyes, I was in the body of a six-month-old baby.
	And I was in a cylinder with a glass dome.
	There was like an omega symbol on the seam to almost like, you know, clench the glass with the metal.
	And there was a black liquid inside that was organic.
	It was, it had intelligence, but it was not, it didn't feel like AI. It felt like silk, but it was basically covering my body.
	And through the glass, I saw two tall Pleiadians that were about seven feet tall.
	The tall Pleiadians were also about seven feet tall.
	And so not like the five, you know, feet that you can hear.
	But were the little ones there as well?
	No.
	Just the tall ones?
	Just the tall ones.
	Ah, interesting.
	And so when I... When I saw the Pleiadians, they were wearing exactly the same blue uniform as Zoe when I saw him in my living room.
	But they had that upside down triangle on their chest.
	And the man had a beard and he had a sort of a helmet on.
	I could still see his hair.
	He had like brown hair and almost like curly hair.
	I see.
	And a curly beard a bit.
	And he had a trident symbol on his forehead.
	And the woman was next to him and she was as tall as he was.
	Both very fit.
	And they were very stern as well.
	They looked at me and there was no real emotion.
	I couldn't see, I couldn't feel any emotions coming out of them.
	And I described this within a few seconds.
	And it really startled me.
	It kind of shocked me a bit because I knew that I was no longer imagining it.
	It was so clear.
	You knew that that was yourself.
	You were that baby.
	Yes, when I was six months old, yes.
	And it felt very, very strange.
	Like I was a 35-year-old man feeling the emotions of a six-month-old baby.
	It was very complex.
	And so when I came out of my body, when the hypnotherapist said to me, can you come out of your body to see where you are?
	I came out of my body and I described the next scene saying it's all black all around me.
	And I can see a spaceship underneath me that's about three to five miles long.
	It's cubic in shape, very cubic all the way.
	And almost like a rectangular shape, you know, spaceship.
	Lots of lights inside them and everything else.
	And I knew exactly where I was on the inside of the spaceship.
	And I said, and the Earth is underneath it.
	So she freaked out again and said, go back into your body.
	So I went back into my body.
	So again, what I discovered is under hypnosis, you have access to your subconscious, you have your conscious mind, and I also did an out-of-body experience.
	And that was very unusual for the hypnotherapist I spoke to afterwards.
	I didn't know that, but I find it very easy to do under hypnosis anyway.
	And so when I came back to my body, then she said, can you please come out of your body again, but stay in the room to describe what you could see.
	And when I came out of my body and described the walls, the walls were kind of greenish looking, organic looking, but they had an intelligence to them.
	And it was very symbiotic with the beings.
	It felt like the whole spaceship was a living organism, basically.
	And had you read about, you know, this is how a lot of craft art described in this field, but you hadn't never heard of that?
	I wasn't reading anything, no.
	I didn't know anything about that.
	Did you subsequently, I mean, you said kind of been, this happened like five years ago, whatever it is.
	So since then, have you heard or read, have people told you that this is actually in the culture?
	I don't read books about that.
	I see.
	Still, I don't really, you know, tend to...
	When I read books, if I try to even, you know, be interested in the topic from other people, I feel there's a lot of, you know, disinformation going on.
	And I can see that.
	It's disturbing at the same time, and I don't want to be associated with this myself.
	I don't want to, you know, read or watch something that doesn't really ring true to me.
	I'd rather let the experience come to me and share it the way I see it.
	I'm okay with people sharing their information and their experiences with me, which happens often now.
	But I don't want to go to lectures and try to hear people talk about the subject from so-and-so.
	So you came to this conference.
	You were drawn to come here for some reason.
	Kind of, yes.
	But I'm really doing it for the people that are going to the conference rather than the actual speakers.
	You came here to meet people in other words?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	But no one in particular or someone in particular?
	No.
	No one in particular.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	And, you know, the way we ended up here is kind of interesting, which I can relate perhaps later.
	The thing is, just not to lose the train of your story, so you came back out of your body, you looked at yourself in the space, you saw these people, and then what happened?
	Didn't you end up, they talked to you, and somehow Zor shows up or something?
	Yes, yes.
	So basically, after the fact, so after this experience, and I described the inside of the spaceship, and there was a door as well.
	I knew that the experience was profound and real then, but I still didn't know what to do with it.
	It didn't really make any sense to me until I decided to contact my mother and tell her about Zohr, which had nothing to do with the actual hypnosis session.
	But I still wanted to share that with her, and I still mentioned that upside-down triangle because I knew that...
	Zohr and the triangle somehow were related, even if Zohr was not part of that abduction when I was six months old.
	So I shared that information with my mother and she said, the triangle, it's the winter triangle in our constellation, where you have Orion and, you know, Belaguse and the Pleiades.
	So that's the shape of the three star systems.
	I see.
	And that's what apparently I saw.
	Which kind of makes sense because the Pleiadians that had that symbol had it on their chest and obviously they came from that location.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But from my world, the upside down triangle also symbolizes a certain group within the secret space program.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's an alien alliance and all of that.
	And I don't even know fully what it symbolizes, but it's very significant.
	And it does show up in abductions all the time.
	Okay.
	Military abductions, especially.
	Right.
	Well, I have seen that symbol as well with James Gillian's ranch.
	Like, I went there afterwards.
	And he has that symbol on his door, on his barn.
	And I believe even Stephen Greer kind of uses the same kind of symbol, too.
	So I saw some correlations.
	Yes, people are using it.
	Yes, more and more often.
	Yes.
	Okay, but at some point, these two beings, so to speak, Pleiadians, talked to you.
	Isn't that right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	They were speaking to me.
	When you were a baby, they spoke to you?
	Not then, no.
	When I was six months old, they didn't speak to me.
	They were very stern, and that was it.
	So when I came back home...
	I felt like there was a huge download happening, and I didn't know what to do with it.
	During the hypnosis session?
	No, after.
	After the hypnosis session, because I couldn't really understand what was going on with the, you know, why I was in the bath, and, you know, all of this didn't really make any sense, and I had no real answers to this.
	But then when I went back home, I kind of put two and two together with the fact that when I lost my skin, and it came back when I was six months old.
	I just then automatically realized that that liquid was there to regenerate my DNA and my skin.
	Sure.
	I just thought that's what it meant.
	It made sense and it rang true to me then when I saw that.
	So then when is the time when you communicated with those beings?
	When they communicated with you?
	So basically when...
	I was in my house again, and Zo came back again the same way he did physically and said, I would like you now to come with me on the spacecraft.
	And I didn't like that.
	I didn't want to.
	And I said, no, I'm sorry, but I think I'll stay home.
	And so he went away, and he was still smiling, still happy to see me for whatever reason, even if I was telling him that I wasn't coming in.
	And I then contacted the hypnotherapist and I said, I would like to, you know, be regressed to maybe welcome the idea of going on a spaceship, you know, with Zohar, if he welcomed me, and we see where that leads.
	So she kind of led me through that, and it was safer, you know, because it was more, not physical, but ethereal.
	It was, you know, coming out of my body almost to do this.
	It was a weird experience because it didn't feel like a normal hypnosis session in a way.
	I felt like I truly lived it, but it was not like a vision or a dream or a regression of any kind.
	It was definitely something that almost I felt like came out of my body and I was there.
	It was very, very strange.
	So she guided you just out of curiosity.
	How did she guide you?
	Was it saying, you know...
	You're going up in a spaceship again?
	No, no.
	Or do you see Zor?
	Every time she was using the technique of saying, you know, walk downstairs, you know, sit down the stairs and then, you know, just look around and, you know, try to basically just calm me down and try to put me in that, you know, hypnosis state, I guess.
	You know, everybody has their own techniques.
	Right.
	And that's what she was using.
	Right.
	And then from then on, she was saying, okay, well, you know, you want to go and see Zor.
	So let's invite him around and see what happens pretty much.
	It was very basic and kind of let it go that way.
	And then did he just show up again?
	No.
	So what happened was I felt like I was elevated up in a shaft of some sort.
	And the doors opened up.
	And when I walked out, he was right there greeting me.
	And in the background, I could see the same tall man and woman when I was six months old.
	And he basically, you know...
	He grabbed me and led me to see them.
	Was he tall also like they are?
	Yeah, same height.
	Actually, no, he wasn't that high.
	He was more like 6'2", 6'3".
	So he wasn't that high.
	He wasn't that tall, I don't think.
	Let me think about that.
	No, he wasn't that tall, no.
	But his parents were.
	So the man and the woman were like seven feet tall.
	And when they saw me, they were unhappy about it.
	And the man started to argue telepathically with Zor.
	They were on a platform higher up.
	And when we walked up that way, basically Zor argued with his dad.
	And he said, He's not ready.
	What is he doing here?
	He's not supposed to be here.
	And Zohar said, no, I think he's ready.
	We need to share information with him or something.
	I don't quite record exactly what I said.
	But that's when the man addressed me, looked me up, he looked me in the eye and said, you are supposed to be living a life, a basic life on earth of emotions.
	Die and come back to us.
	That was it.
	And I said, okay.
	I don't know what's going on, but okay, whatever you say.
	And then he said, but now your mission has changed and you are supposed to be going back to Earth and awaken the starseeds of the planet.
	I said, okay.
	But I had no clue what that meant.
	And that was the true soul message that arose from this conversation.
	And the other point was, Zoro then showed me a body on a slab that was breathing, was as tall as the man, and he said, this is you, on this spaceship.
	And you basically duplicated your soul to go on Earth, to be reincarnated onto Earth, and on other...
	Planetary systems.
	You know, the spitting salt idea was very foreign to me anyway, and still is a bit, because not many real people talk about it, but I found that very strange, and the fact that he said that I volunteered for this mission on Earth to do this, I said, okay.
	You know, again, I was not really accustomed to these sort of things, and it kind of surprised me, and I... I was absorbing the information, but I could not really analyze what was going on.
	When you saw yourself on a slab, you were as tall as they were?
	Yes.
	And could you look at yourself and see, was there any difference in the way you looked?
	Do you look like yourself or no?
	Not quite, no, no.
	Because the same features like with a cheekbone, higher cheekbones, the larger, you know, eyes.
	I see.
	So physically, it didn't quite look the same.
	My nose was a bit more straight.
	Anyway, he had perfect features, but muscular as well.
	Was he alive or in meditation?
	He was alive.
	He was in meditation.
	I see.
	But he basically was not coming out of his deep meditation when I saw him, anyway.
	Right.
	Or me, I don't know.
	But it was the way it was.
	What was interesting about this experience is that he also showed me that there were some other universes.
	Because the Pleiadian reincarnated in an other universe, as we said.
	And I had no idea what that meant either.
	But I said, okay, that was it.
	So when I went back to my body after the session was added, and it felt that it was enough.
	It really sucked up a lot of my energy when I was doing these sessions, and it made me feel very tired afterwards.
	I see, okay.
	So usually the hour-to-hour sessions were plenty, and that's what I was doing when I was seeing the hypnotherapist.
	And that was in the year 2011?
	Yes, well, 2011 and 2012, because I was kind of doing it over, because it was late 2011 when I first started the first sessions, and then I finished them in 2012. So, how long did you go for actually getting these sessions going on, for example?
	Probably over maybe a month and a half, two months, maybe.
	That's it?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Only a month or two months.
	Oh yes, I've got other things to do.
	I understand.
	You know, I would think so.
	I can't spend my life doing this.
	No, but I would think so.
	The way you described it, you said, so it went from late 2011 to early 2012. No, beginning of 2012. Okay, so over that span.
	Yes.
	And then what, okay, so you're doing these sessions and you're having different experiences in each session, assuming?
	Yes.
	Why do you stop?
	Because I couldn't care less.
	Okay, so this was happening, you didn't know what to do with it?
	I couldn't care less.
	It was an experience, but I couldn't really relate to it.
	But why did you go to the sessions at all if you didn't care less?
	Because it was really helping me with my visions, and that became better, and I was still going through the process of trying the self-hypnosis session, and within that two-month span, basically, I just gave everything up because I had my business to run.
	And I just had to focus on that.
	And I just went back into that world.
	So what happened at the end of these sessions?
	I mean, did you have any more interaction, get more information?
	No, no.
	Nothing happened after that.
	After they said to me, go back to Earth and awaken the stars into the planet, it was so vague and irrelevant.
	I had no guides to show me how to do this.
	What could I do with this?
	I just gave it up, dropped it, and then carried on my life.
	That's pretty much what happened.
	I ignored it.
	Oh.
	Because I didn't know what else to do.
	What did you say?
	Okay, so you came back to the therapist, right?
	Yes.
	And what did you say to her?
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, you said you were giving these orders to do this.
	Yes.
	Oh, then I stopped.
	I stopped doing it.
	No, but what did she say?
	What was her reaction?
	Well, she believed it.
	She believed that my experiences were real.
	And when I was confronting her with it, at the beginning, anyway, more than at the beginning, when I was saying, you know, I'm just imagining it and this is not real, she showed me two documents.
	The first one was about the MRI test that was done.
	When people were under hypnosis and the portion of the brain that lights up is actually the place where the memory comes from.
	Well, you know, it's not the imagination process, which is a different part of the brain.
	And the other document was about a case that happened in Canada of a woman that got bombed her car and she lost memory.
	And under hypnosis, she remembered the license plate of the vehicle that hit her.
	And that was enough for a judge to have a warrant done for investigating the case.
	And the man obviously went to prison.
	So it's been proven to be accurate.
	Yes.
	And have a connection.
	And accepted.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So you got these directions and then you ended the sessions.
	Yes.
	But your vision is assuming...
	They continued?
	Yes.
	And did you have more meetings with these people or no?
	No.
	So since then, you haven't had meetings with them, to your knowledge?
	Well, no, I had meetings, but during the time frame of since then, yes, but what I'm saying is between 2012 and 2014, so for basically three years, really, roughly.
	I ignored my visions, and I ignored my interactions with the Pleiadians.
	Nothing really occurred during that time frame, per se.
	Okay.
	And because more happened between 2014 and now.
	Okay.
	But there was a three-year gap where nothing happened apart from visions, the regular visions that we're seeing.
	And the regular visions?
	What was happening on Earth, but nothing else.
	Nothing to do with ETs.
	So for three years, I was just still doing my business.
	But were you having, again, to characterize the visions, were you having visions during those three years that then gave you foreknowledge of some events, perhaps, related to yourself and your personal life?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	But it just broadened that.
	Now, I had more visions about different timelines.
	So I had a better understanding as to know what those visions were and how to interpret them better.
	So you think that you had visions of other timelines?
	Yes, or potential timelines that could occur that could be changed.
	And that's what I was seeing.
	And that's okay.
	I mean, I even saw my death at 90 years old.
	I mean, it's just crazy stuff that could happen.
	But, you know, all of these things just occurred during that three-year span.
	But when, in 2014, I heard a voice saying, you have to go to Mount Shasta.
	You have to go to Mount Shasta.
	And, again, I was still working, and I didn't know what to do with this.
	And so my wife just, you know, came back from surgery.
	She had a back surgery.
	And so she was six months in the recovery process.
	And selfishly, I said to her, I'm sorry, but I need to go to Mount Shasta.
	I have no idea why, but I have to go there.
	And she looked at me and said, are you joking?
	I said, no, you're not going.
	You're staying here.
	And I said, okay, all right.
	And three days later, she's the one who said, okay, you can go to Mount Shasta, out of the blue.
	So she let me go.
	I packed my bags and a friend of mine who passed away a few years earlier gave me his library of books that he had mostly about the constellations and the star systems and what was happening with Tesla and free energy.
	He had most of his books.
	He was a NASA scientist working for the satellite office in Vancouver, in Canada.
	And anyway, so he was retiring on Vancouver Island, and out of his books was a 1933-year-old book that was written up by the Rosicrucians, and it was about the Lemurian people of Mount Shasta.
	And it was the only book he had out of hundreds of books he gave me.
	And the day I packed my bag, I went into the library, didn't even look at the book.
	I just grabbed a book, a book, you know, to read on the airplane, and I just put it on my bed.
	And when I packed it, I just realized what the book was.
	And I was so startled by it that I had to go back to the library and just look around, see if there was any other books about Mount Shester, and there was none.
	Okay.
	So that was...
	Quite an interesting passage.
	So I packed my bags, went onto the airplane, started reading the book about Lemurian people.
	And then I arrived there and I had no clue what to do.
	So I wasn't really drawn to the mountain.
	A lot of people I talked to there said, you know, Oh, you know, we had that calling on going to Mount Shasta and, you know, it's like a vortex and I had no idea.
	I really didn't care.
	I just came over because, you know, I was called and was so insistent that I had to go.
	And, you know, it pushed me there and I had to go.
	Okay.
	So I was very curious and I went to base camp at three or four thousand feet altitude and went up there and then there was a lodge up there.
	And I saw a woman there who had a book.
	She had multiple books, but I was interested in history.
	And I said, oh, what's the lodge about?
	And so she gave me a book about the history of the lodge and, you know, who built it and so on.
	And the author of the book was local.
	And when I read his book, you know, what really drew me to the book was him having an experience.
	On the south side of the mountain where he went up there with his eight-year-old son, his dog, and basically he went up there and he saw this Lemurian temple and he could not really get into it.
	It was so powerful and strange that he backed away and he just marked the emplacement on the tree and went back home.
	The next day when he went back on his own, the temple was gone.
	So I thought that was very interesting and I thought to myself, I need to contact this author and maybe tell him where to see that temple or location so I could go ahead and see it for myself.
	And I did that.
	I tried to look him up online and couldn't see his name anywhere.
	I contacted the publishing house in New York.
	And it was 8 p.m.
	in New York at that point, and someone, a woman, answered the phone and said, I'm the publisher.
	I've stayed behind late.
	None of my staff is around, but if you want to send me an email, I will forward your email on to the author, and it will be up to him to reply to you.
	And I did that, and within five minutes, he just got back to me and said, okay, Sebastian, I no longer live in Manchester.
	I live in San Francisco, but I'll see you in the morning.
	So we decided to meet at the local campsite in Mount Shasta.
	And when we met there, I introduced myself, talked to him about my visions, and briefly about what I was, and talked to him about his experience on the mountain.
	And when I finished, he smiled and said, you know, Sebastian, I truly lived that experience.
	I went there with my eight-year-old son and my dog.
	And yes, I saw that temple and the mark from the tree, but I never wrote it in my book.
	And I actually thought I was really reading it in his book.
	That's what I really truly believed.
	But I guess I was having a vision of him going there and doing it.
	I think I was reading the words, the letters.
	Fascinating.
	Absolutely.
	And then he said to me, It's very strange, like the synchronicity of it all, because I was in San Francisco when my guides told me that I had to go to Mount Shasta to meet with a foreigner, and I left late that day, and I ended up being stuck in the traffic, and I packed my bags and stayed in a local motel outside, you know, San Francisco, and then you just sent me that email, and I replied to you, and that's pretty much the confirmation.
	When he replied to you, he didn't cross-examine you at all before he met you.
	He just said, you said, I'm here in Shasta.
	I mean, did you tell him anything?
	I said a French guy.
	My name is French anyway, so I guess he assumed that my name alone was kind of a trigger.
	But I probably even sent it from my work email.
	Maybe he looked it up.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, who knows?
	Or he felt that he met me at Mount Shasta.
	And it felt right to him.
	But maybe he was just opening himself up to meet with me.
	Maybe he should have met someone else.
	I don't know.
	What I'm saying is what he received as information was to meet with a foreigner at Manchester.
	And again, you sent him an email, right?
	Yes, yes.
	And he replied within five minutes.
	But your email didn't contain a whole lot of information, or did it?
	Was it like several paragraphs, or just one?
	I could probably look it up.
	It was not very long, no.
	Not very long.
	But anyway, when we met, he rung true to him.
	And then when I asked him, I said, if I had to go to the same location as where you've been, is that okay?
	And he said to me, no.
	He said...
	My guides told me that you are supposed to be going to the south side of the mountain because there's a site there that is more ancient.
	And he said, I couldn't even open that gateway in my lifetime, but for whatever reason, you can.
	And I said, okay, I'm game.
	Where do I start?
	I've got something to do.
	But he basically sent me off without really too much clues.
	He said, well...
	He knew the place very well, but for whatever reason, he didn't want to tell me what it was, or what it was exactly.
	So he said to me, just look for the big rock.
	The whole mountain is made of rock.
	It's a volcano.
	Not much vegetation when you go up to the top.
	And so I said, well, any other clues?
	And he said to me, you know.
	You know.
	Okay.
	I was really doubting myself then.
	And when I was about to leave, then he said to me, go around the 10,000 feet mark, which is pretty high up still, but go around that mark.
	The whole volcano is about 14,000 feet, I believe.
	So I don't know exactly where that was finishing exactly.
	All I know is I could not walk on the glacier and start hiking in the ice, so I had my limits.
	But I still went.
	The next day, it was a Wednesday morning, and I stopped at the parking lot, and I saw that sign that said, you know, due to recent Cougar attacks in California, do not venture in these parks at dawn or at dusk.
	And without equipment.
	And I did exactly that.
	I went in the morning very early and I was on my own and I didn't meet a single person on the way up and on the way down.
	Not one person.
	That was very eerie.
	And I could feel observed throughout.
	And what month was this in the year?
	That was in May, I think.
	May of 2014. So almost summer, but not summer.
	Right, yes.
	And April or May, I would have to look it up.
	And I may have mentioned somewhere else.
	But anyway, the journey went up and I felt protected.
	I didn't feel threatened or, you know, it felt very pleasant.
	We hear the birds chirping.
	It was very, very easy.
	It was not really difficult to go up.
	I even had my cell phone on me and I looked at the GPS because there was a cell tower on the south side of the mountain and I had very good reception and I could see at what altitude that I was in.
	So I was cheating a bit.
	I was looking at the altitude and I was walking up and all of a sudden I reached about 10,400 feet and I saw a rock and thought to myself, that must be the rock.
	You know, I was drawn to that rock.
	So I went there, touched it, you know, hoping for something, you know, miraculous happening or I don't know.
	And all of a sudden, a voice spoke to me and said, you know, not this rock, you dummy, the other rock.
	And I go, okay.
	And I looked around and there was a black rock that was sitting on the edge of the mountain and it was sizable.
	But it was on a 45 degree angle with a lot of pebbles, like, you know, very loose rocks along the way.
	And where I came from down below was a very narrow path, and on the side of that was a thousand-foot drop cliff.
	So, a very dangerous location.
	And I looked at the rock, and I said to myself, I'm not going there.
	I'm not suicidal.
	There was no path leading to it.
	And I really, really, really hesitated.
	The wind was blowing.
	I was on my own.
	Nobody knew I was there.
	And, you know, I said, despite the visions and the voices, I'm not doing this.
	And after an hour and a half, you know, I almost convinced myself, thinking, you know, it has to be for a reason.
	Because I'm here, there's a big rock there that doesn't really belong here.
	And I was curious.
	And so I went forward and I started walking on that loose rock.
	And when I reached the halfway point, The rock started sliding underneath my feet.
	I was really thinking I was going to die and fall off the cliff.
	It was pretty scary.
	The rock stopped, and I stopped, and I carried on.
	Before I looked behind me to see if I could backtrack.
	Seriously.
	It was too dangerous to backtrack, so I basically went forward.
	Just before I could touch the rock, when I got there, and nothing happened in between, you know, about safe, I could hear a deafening sound, like something really deafening and going down in decibels, and no idea what it was, and I couldn't see anything.
	I looked around, and I stopped when that happened before I could touch the rock, hoping that something would happen around, but nothing happened.
	When I touch the rock, then the same deep voice says to me, Okay, you are done.
	Go home.
	Okay.
	Is that it?
	And nothing else happened.
	So I walked around the rock and went on my bottom side and went up to the original point where I started walking towards the rock.
	And I waited.
	And nothing happened.
	I looked around, because I felt observed all the way, and even from the parking lot, I felt observed, but it was increasingly becoming more, you know, heavy.
	Yeah, okay.
	And so when I looked on one of the peaks, on the horizon, and the wind was blowing and everything else, I could see three flags that looked like flags.
	And they were, they looked like Tibetan flags, you know, those long ones.
	Yeah.
	They had different colors, and when I looked closer, I just realized they were silhouettes, they were beings, but they were taller than average humans.
	And I kept looking, and they weren't moving, and I just looked around, see if there were any more beings, because again, while I was looking at them, I could feel that maybe other beings were looking at me from behind.
	So I looked up, and there was nobody, and I put my gaze back on that peak.
	The flags or the robes basically were gone.
	The beings were gone.
	And so I waited and waited and waited.
	Nothing happened.
	Had my lunch there, late lunch, and walked back down to Mount Shasta.
	And on the way back down, and that same voice said to me, as I was hiking down, said to me, and by the way, never come back.
	And I felt like, why are you so mean to me?
	I'm a very nice guy.
	I had no idea why this happened.
	It was a very strange experience.
	And so I went back to town.
	I have seen UFOs on site, by the way.
	A story I never mentioned before.
	The woman at the lodge that gave me the book was in that lodge for four days a week.
	And then four days down and four days back in the lodge.
	And while she was working there, everybody was asking her, Have you seen a UFO? Have you seen anything there?
	And she said, I've never seen a thing in my life since I've been working here.
	It's been like four or five years.
	And when I went back up to the lodge afterwards and I saw her there, she said to me, you know when you came over and you read that book when you left the same night when I stayed in my tent outside the lodge?
	I saw this bright light, so bright, it just filled the whole sky.
	And it just woke me up and freaked me out.
	And she basically saw this huge light and it just vanished.
	And she was in a tent and it was the first big event that ever happened to her.
	And she just mentioned that to me afterwards.
	So I was quite happy for her that at least something happened.
	But, okay, so you came back from there.
	Yes.
	What did you do at this point?
	Okay, so I went back to Canada and, you know, not really understanding what went on, really.
	I had no clue whatsoever.
	And again, I didn't have any connections with Mount Shasta.
	Like, I didn't feel really connected to it for whatever reason.
	I don't know why.
	So when I went back to Canada, eventually I just went through a local magazine called The Voice, a very local magazine, It features local trades.
	There was a woman there that was doing quantum touch healing.
	Never heard of it before.
	I said, that's strange.
	I said, maybe I should just try that out of boredom.
	I went to see her.
	She said to me, lay down on the table.
	She went down to sit on the chair in the room.
	I could hear her snoring.
	And I thought to myself, oh boy, I wasted $100 right here.
	And then I just said, well, you know, since she's sleeping, might as well do that the same or relax as much as I can.
	Might as well take the hour to relax.
	So I basically relaxed and I could let she see the work she was doing.
	She never told me anything before she started, but she was going through my chakras and she was trying to remove knots.
	Sending them through my feet.
	And I could feel cold.
	So all of this happened.
	And I didn't know why because she didn't really mention it to me beforehand.
	And she does this while she's sleeping.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like she goes out of body.
	Yes.
	I don't know exactly what she does, what's the method.
	But I could see this huge bright light as well about her.
	She was definitely a person of the light and she was a beautiful bright light.
	Okay.
	You know, it wasn't really making me blind, but it was just the most amazing light I've seen.
	And then, you know, I could just see black.
	Nothing really happened.
	Then all of a sudden, something else happened where I could see myself again as a first person.
	It just came out of nowhere.
	And I walked through what looked like stone gates.
	Huge, very tall, massive pillars, like square stones.
	And I went through that gate and there were beings welcoming me on the other side and those beings were Lemurians out of the blue.
	And I was embodying the body of that Pleiadian I was seeing on the slab that was sleeping on a spaceship.
	And I recognized myself.
	It was me.
	But I was a diplomat.
	And when I walked towards them, the main message that I gave them was, If you don't change your ways, you'll be destroyed.
	And what did the Lemurians, we call them Lemurians, what did they look like?
	They looked pretty slender.
	They had tall features as well, but they were definitely humanoids.
	They looked pretty much like us, but elongated beings, you know.
	Whiter skin than us, funny enough, not dark skins.
	And they had, you know, they had hair like us and everything else, lots of garments and jewelry and stuff like that.
	But you could tell they were very advanced, you know, beings.
	That they had technologies and knowledge that, you know, we don't have here today.
	Okay.
	And I was invited.
	I stayed with them.
	And while staying with them, there was a priestess, a very...
	Like a dark force, you know, priestess there within that group that was pretty much taking over the whole group and leading them.
	And while being there with them, I had an interaction with her and I changed the light and she became positive or, you know, basically open to the light force rather than the dark force and she got killed for it.
	That's what I was seeing within that hour of session.
	It was just an amazing experience at the same time, but I could not, again, relate to the Lemurians.
	I could see that it was very, very ancient, but it was a glimpse of a memory.
	So when you went through the gates, can you describe the place you saw?
	Were you in a...
	In a certain kind of a place.
	Yeah, it was basically like I saw a lot of rocks.
	There were lots of stones, rocks.
	There were monuments like temples, lots of temples.
	Not for what I truly recall were in that space.
	No mountains, okay.
	I couldn't see mountains in that specific view and I had a very narrow view and it was very, very short.
	Why was that?
	Because when I walk in towards the crowd, they were all there, and I just didn't observe around.
	I didn't even look around.
	So you were looking at the people.
	I was just walking, I was just looking at the people, and I was interacting with them, and I was basically communicating with them telepathically.
	And so they already had that knowledge.
	How did they react when you told them?
	Not very well, but they were respectful of me saying that to them.
	But at the same time...
	It was a negotiation, almost.
	I was there as a diplomat, and I was there to see if anything could change.
	It was almost like a last-minute call, and something had happened.
	This was not the first time they were warned.
	And that's what it seemed like when I had this experience.
	And what were they being warned about?
	Okay, so it looked like they had some very selfish ways, and they were not trying to, you know...
	Was there a sense that they had some kind of weaponry?
	I see.
	Did you see the spacecraft in your mind's eye or did you just know intuitively that?
	I just knew it intuitively and I just knew I saw portals.
	I saw them going through portals while I was there.
	Okay.
	So that was pretty amazing, too.
	Well, when you say you saw them going through portals, do you mean in a body or...
	In their physical bodies.
	In their physical bodies going through portals.
	Not in their spaceships.
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	In their physical bodies.
	Okay.
	One person going through, like, an entranceway.
	Right.
	And just, they went through it.
	And there was still some lights coming out of it, and then they were gone.
	Okay.
	Did you have a sense of what time this was?
	In history?
	It's definitely ancient, ancient history.
	I would say 10,000, 15,000 BC. Very, very old.
	Okay, that's not very old, to be honest with you.
	So are you sure that it was quite that young in terms of...
	That's what it felt like, 15,000 BC. It felt like around that.
	Yeah, 15,000 BC. Did the number come to you?
	In other words, I'm asking you now, but had you already thought about this and did it come to you?
	Yes, I have.
	That's what came to you.
	Yeah, like I said, it's not very clear as to the exact date, but it felt more like around between 10,000 and 15,000 BC. I couldn't really pinpoint the exact date, month of time.
	Okay, where on earth?
	Do you know where?
	No, I couldn't tell you that.
	I didn't know where at that point.
	Really?
	No idea where?
	No, because I had that experience in that specific location.
	I had no idea where exactly I was in time.
	Okay, so you had this...
	This was when you went to see this woman.
	You're having this sort of vision.
	Yes.
	You've come back from Shasta.
	Did you go to this woman specifically to find out about the Shasta experience and had this one?
	No.
	Or it was unrelated?
	It was completely unrelated.
	And it was how much time after that?
	Six months.
	Six months?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So here you are having another vision of this sort of strange grouping of things.
	Right.
	But you're this guy.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Anything else that happened there?
	So when I was there and the light...
	The light of the woman changed and she became more positive.
	Then she got killed by her people.
	And what I got at the end, not so much during the session but after, because I didn't even share that with her, but I realized that Lemuria was destroyed by the Pleiadians and potentially with the help of the Atlanteans as well.
	Okay.
	So that's what I got as a feedback after the facts.
	From yourself?
	Yes, well, yeah.
	Okay, by download or whatever you want to say.
	Yes.
	Now, what did the woman that you went, she must have woken up at some point?
	She did, she did, she did.
	And so then she explained to me what she did, and she explained that she went through my chakras and removed knots in my body, and then managed to make them go through my feet, and I couldn't feel cold.
	And I told her, after she explained that to me, I said, Well, that's exactly what I've seen.
	And let me tell you what else I've seen.
	And when I mentioned that experience to her, she then cried.
	And, you know, I said, I'm sorry, you know, did I hurt your feelings?
	Did I say something wrong?
	And she said to me, no, but basically what happened was I truly felt that I was a Lemurian person.
	I had an experience in Hawaii.
	And I felt that I was a Lemurian person.
	There was a trauma in my life that I couldn't explain about this experience.
	And because she was killed by her own people, that kind of explained that experience.
	So she must have said to you she thought she was that woman then?
	Yes, yes.
	And I felt that connection as well.
	So I did feel that connection.
	Did she look like the woman?
	Not quite.
	She had some features.
	But what was more interesting is when I left and went back home, I had a headache for two and a half hours.
	And I had to go to bed.
	And I slept.
	And when I woke up, I emailed her and I said, you know, is that normal for your patients to have headaches after a nice healing session?
	And she said to me, no, but, you know, funny enough, like, I felt exhausted after our session and I had to lay down myself for 15 minutes.
	And I had cancelled my appointments and I slept for two and a half hours.
	And so she basically went through the same thing.
	There was a clash, obviously, at some point.
	And we felt connected, like mentally connected.
	And I had a conference in Vancouver and I was one of the main speakers there and I went there for the business.
	And I could see her cry again, you know, while I was on the ferry.
	And so I texted her and I said, you know, are you okay?
	And, you know, she then explained to me, yes, you know, we are connected because I was still suffering and, you know, going through the same trauma again and, you know, a lot of things unraveled and, you know, helped her with it.
	But, you know, and she kept going on and on and on on text.
	And I said, I'm sorry, but I need to disconnect myself from you because I need to focus on my speech.
	Okay.
	And so, and then we met afterwards.
	And when I talked to her, basically I said, you know, this is what I went through.
	This is what I explained to you about my experience.
	And she basically didn't feel ready.
	She said, I'm not really that comfortable with it and I need to learn that truth by myself and all of that.
	So we didn't really speak for two years after that.
	I never went back for another session.
	But she is now, she actually volunteered for a video that I made for my new website that I started.
	So, you know, it's all related, but that experience led to this.
	And we're all fine now, and she's way more comfortable with the experience now.
	So she's evolved, you know, by herself through that experience.
	Okay.
	She's volunteered to be in a video of what?
	Describing what she's doing to explain what quantum touch healing is all about.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay.
	But have you gone back to her for any other kind of thing?
	Okay.
	So since that time, and maybe correct me if I'm wrong, it seems like this is kind of like at least touching on and maybe not everything that was talked about in Jimmy's show.
	Okay.
	But it seems like we might be more or less caught up, so to speak.
	Right.
	In terms of that.
	Yes.
	So, to kind of bring something new to this interview for the purposes of people, which I'm sure they'd like to hear a bit more.
	Yes.
	What has happened since then?
	Okay.
	So, since then, so I developed a website.
	Wow.
	I'm sorry.
	I just had a déjà vu.
	Okay.
	That I saw this whole thing in the past.
	It's very interesting.
	That what you're just going to say to me, I've seen you and heard you say already.
	Okay.
	So this is very...
	Sorry.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay.
	It's a funny thing, yeah.
	Sometimes I have that anyway, but not during interviews usually.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Sometimes, though.
	So when I decided to create my website to promote people with tools to help people raise their awareness and consciousness...
	I interacted with a person who helped me with another hypnotherapy session but over the phone.
	And I was laying down on the sofa and I had my cell phone hooked up to headsets and I was just listening to her to guide me through that for an hour.
	And when that happened, it worked like wonders but it was in a very peaceful place and it was quiet.
	I didn't know exactly what to expect because all of my hypnosis sections in the past, which again happened four or five years earlier, I'd never done a single session in between.
	So I was kind of wary about the whole experience again, not really knowing what was going to happen.
	And plus she had her own techniques, right?
	So I kind of listened to her and she guided me through the session.
	What I could see was strange.
	I was in space, but I could see a floating tree that had digital leaves.
	So all the leaves were green, but I could see they were very vibrant, and they were almost moving that way.
	And there was a toe symbol inside the trunk, in the middle of the trunk.
	And there was a black hole through the trunk, and I dived through the black hole.
	There was a white light at the end, and the white light opened up, and it became a sort of a heaven, or what we consider heaven.
	And that space had pastel colors around, and I was immersed into this love.
	I was one with all the beings around.
	It was very hard to detach myself from all of these beings.
	But at the same time, I knew there were...
	It was a huge, vast space, and I could move freely throughout.
	And I moved around, and I saw crystal palaces, and we saw things.
	But still, it was energy-like.
	It was not a physical crystal, and it had a vibration of some sort, and they had walls, the walls of this place.
	Behind the palaces were like honeycomb-like and made of cellulose.
	That's what it looked like to me in that experience.
	And when I went through the wall, because I managed to detach myself from the group, I went through the wall and I went into this purple space that felt very dark, very heavy, very different.
	And the energy was, it felt like it was a different universe altogether.
	And it was a replica of the heaven I was in, but just a different type.
	And then from there, because I didn't really feel happy about this space, I moved away from it.
	And again, I went through the same hexagonal shaped walls, went through it, went to another type of heaven that was more greenish.
	And that felt okay, mellow, very different, but again, I wasn't really feeling connected to this.
	And then I went on and I discovered a vast chamber that looked like a chamber.
	It was very dark.
	Not dark, you know, like feeling dark, but just looking dark.
	And I could feel this massive presence that was there, very omnipotent, omnipresent.
	And all I could feel was that he was the father of everything.
	And right away I could hear...
	Almost like a chant, like, you know, A-R, A-R, A-R. So the two letters E and A. And I didn't know what that meant.
	The hypnotherapist kept asking me, you know, what do you mean by that?
	And so I had to tell the two letters the way I was seeing it.
	And then the being explained to me that the heaven...
	Had no managers or no God, as we consider God.
	Because that manager goofed up and made mistakes along the way in our universe.
	And he absorbed his energy and became one with AI. But the whole thing, even if it was not physical, it felt like a program.
	That's pretty much what it felt like.
	And as a fiber optic, almost cable, I went through space.
	And as I did that, I just realized that I was also able to understand the other universes that were adjacent to this one I was in.
	So I knew there were multiple universes, but at the same time, AR was showing me the defects in the program along the way.
	And that there were many beings being affected by it, almost like a virus.
	But I didn't really know anything about that.
	So I'm only describing what came through this experience.
	But the Pleiadians were part of that too, and the reptilians.
	So everybody could have been affected along the way.
	It's possible.
	Because the program is so vast.
	And the virus and the mistakes along the way could just expand and reach out to anything.
	Okay, so what happened then?
	What happened then?
	That was pretty much my whole session, and that was it.
	And this was via the phone, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, so the person on the phone, have you ever done this again with them?
	No, she did recommend to do it again.
	She did not recommend?
	She did recommend, yes.
	She recommended.
	But we didn't have time.
	I had to go to Mexico the next day.
	Oh, so this is very recent.
	Two weeks ago, yes.
	Very recent.
	So I didn't have much time to really absorb the whole context of that experience.
	Right.
	Now, since then, you and I had dialogued, right?
	Yes, yes.
	And I don't mind saying that I had said, oh, Ia is Enki's name often.
	Right, right.
	And I didn't know any of that.
	Yes, and so then maybe you did a little research, whatever, but he's also, from time to time, referred to as various beings, actually, are called Ia, and I think possibly sometimes Marduk, or actually Enki's father, which is Anu, is sometimes Ia.
	So, I'm not saying these are correct.
	I'm just saying that out in the literature that I've come across, you know, I have done some searches in this regard.
	Because I find it interesting when the names morph into other names, you know, and this sort of thing.
	Is it because there is perhaps a misunderstanding as to know who was truly involved in the process and because it's kind of unknown?
	Well, what I had wondered, you know, and I can ask you here now, that had you known about the Sumerian tablets, and had you known about, and had you been to Egypt, and also, I know these are three questions, but also, because it kind of is a package, had you known about Zachariah Sitchin's work?
	Yes, yes, we talked about that, and I did tell you that I read one book from him.
	That talked about Enki.
	Okay.
	Again, it was so long ago.
	But when was this in your life that you did that?
	I read that book probably around 2012 or 13 when a friend of mine just gave it to me to read.
	Okay.
	What did you think of at the time?
	It was very close to the Bible, pretty much, but using aliens in the process.
	I couldn't really connect to it.
	It was just a story.
	What about the notion that the beings were very tall?
	Did that mean anything to you?
	Because we're jumping kind of forward and backward, and I'm not sure the chronology exactly what we're talking about, but the Pleiadian beings were very tall.
	The Lemurians were very tall.
	You know, Enki, Enlil, and Anu and Sword are referred to as being very tall.
	Right.
	So, you're aware of that, right?
	Yes.
	And did you hear about the Anunnaki?
	Doing what's called, you know, that there was a fight between the two brothers.
	Did you understand the Enlil and Enki?
	Yeah, that was in the book.
	Okay.
	And that there was a genetic manipulation, a frequency fence, in essence, that was put in the human genome to make them age so that they would die after 100 years and that they would be dumber.
	Yeah, okay.
	It's a piece in the book, I'm sure.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, whatever.
	These are some of the little bits and pieces.
	Right.
	So...
	It is fascinating, you know, what your experience is.
	So at this point, you know, I mean, obviously this is early days, right?
	This happened to you two weeks ago?
	Two weeks ago, yes.
	And since that time, have you had any other, you know, that you would like to share?
	I mean, obviously we don't want to pry, but...
	More and more I just realize and it gains more of a knowing rather than, you know, it's just really pure speculation here.
	The knowing to me is that we are definitely more in a program.
	And I had talks even with Richard Dornan about this.
	And I said to him, you know, I referred it as the myth of the cave.
	And I don't know if you know or you're familiar with it.
	Of course.
	And basically the fact that there are three slaves and they are looking at the wall and seeing some shadows.
	And one frees himself from that while there's a fire behind making those shadows.
	And there are actually people behind the fire using inanimate objects to make them believe that this is actually real.
	And those slaves believe that the reality is in front of them.
	When one of them frees himself up, goes outside and sees the real world, wants to come back and is threatened to be killed.
	And that's exactly our reality, or what I compare as to our reality today.
	I think this is what we are living in.
	We are in this myth.
	We are in this cave.
	And we don't see any further than that because we are kind of chained to this reality and this dimension.
	And there is more out there that meets the eye.
	Absolutely.
	And that's what I truly believe now.
	I think this is, in fact, I even believe that Socrates, so Plato's master, you know, yeah.
	Who basically went to the Library of Alexandria, most likely got volumes of books to discuss that, and to discuss ETs even, and tried to put it in a certain context to bring it back to Plato, and he wrote it because Socrates never wrote a single book.
	And that's what I believe happened.
	Okay, well, along those lines, do you think that you had a past life, or do you possibly remember past lives?
	Yes.
	And do you think you had a past life in Greece?
	I don't know about Greece, but I was very interested in Greece, and I even have a Socrates bust in my house.
	I did go to Greece, and I love the country.
	I love the food.
	But the fact is I don't recall consciously a past life in Greece.
	Okay.
	I do recall a past life in pre-Egypt, but not so much in Greece.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Fair enough.
	So this is all, you know, it's food for thought for people, you know, and so that's why we do these kinds of interviews.
	Share what's happening with people, the amazing things that we're all encountering.
	In a sense, we're all voyagers and we're all explorers.
	So we're doing this interview in that kind of spirit.
	But at the same time...
	People that watch Camelot will sort of be able to draw from a lot of my other material, and I'm sure they're educating themselves along the way.
	So there's a lot that they can bring to this.
	And this story of the cave is something college students are taught in schools about that story.
	And yet it doesn't ever, in some ways, it doesn't permeate their understanding.
	I mean, in the East, it's called Maya, the illusion that we live in.
	Is into, for example, Buddhism or anything of that nature.
	That's common knowledge and understood in a very everyday sense.
	Right.
	That this, that we're in part of, is sort of a Maya experience.
	My understanding, I'm sorry to cut you off here, my understanding on that is that we can change this reality and I could almost see myself flying and completely removing, you know...
	The reality of this dimension because it's just an illusion.
	If we realize that and we get the tools to raise our vibration, we could potentially change gravity and everything else along with it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, you know, even in, of course, the Secret Space Program, the Secret Projects, the Black Projects, they are exploring all these ideas, of course.
	A great deal gets involved in what the human mind is capable of doing to change our reality.
	And we are, in essence, magicians.
	We are creators.
	There is a great creator that's even bigger than the program that you saw, beyond that even.
	And, of course, because...
	An Ia is just a person, a person, some kind of being.
	We're going even beyond that, right, to multiple things.
	So if we understand that we have that ability, for example, MIT had the thing where they found out that humans saw ahead of time that 9-11 was going to happen.
	They already experienced it, that we are precogs by nature.
	This is part of...
	That story.
	And so all of this is out there for people to realize.
	And I don't know if you've looked into remote viewing, military remote viewing.
	Not really.
	I mean, I heard of, I think, Major Dames.
	Yes.
	But I don't really know much about it, really.
	Right.
	Well, it's just another way of looking, you know.
	Seeing or going, you can go out of body, travel in time, etc.
	Or just use your mind and signal non-locality, being in connection with somebody that time and space are an illusion.
	So in essence that we can contact anyone really in any time and space.
	By virtue, if that's true.
	Now, depending on what you believe scientifically or whatever you want to believe.
	Right.
	You know, what's interesting is, you know, this was really not part of my world and I don't really act like one who really wants to believe anyway.
	But at the same time, you know, it happens to me and it changed my life, you know, to such an extent that I was also conscious to warn the partners I was in, in multinational.
	And I resigned from my role as chairman of the board.
	And I also resigned from my other roles in the community with the Chamber of Commerce and other associations I was involved in because I could not really mix what I'm doing right now and what I'm sharing on, you know, the radios and TVs and so on.
	So you could actually endanger the...
	The brands that I've developed and the relationships I have.
	So I put myself away from that.
	I still have a role in the business to some extent as a shareholder and so on, but I'm no longer active, let's say.
	So this is just my opinion and my views on my experiences and doesn't really reflect what...
	You know, these aunties are all about because, you know, they don't really know what's going on in this realm, but they don't really care because they're pretty much, you know, really driven more about the essence of making money.
	And that's the reason why I felt disconnected from that because I felt that I had to share my experiences to the people, especially that the idea of creating a platform or website that could link.
	Lightworkers with one another in order to help raise people's vibrations and consciousness was the main goal.
	That's what it felt like to me.
	That's what I had to do.
	And I'm motivated to do it, but I'm also doing it for free.
	So there's no real agenda, no real financial motivations behind that.
	It's just to help one another and to help the masses because the message I got was, from the Pleiadians especially, was that...
	It was urgent, and we had to act on it fairly urgently.
	Even if I discarded it for, you know, three years, it feels even more urgent now than it was in 2011. Let's put it that way.
	Fair enough.
	Okay, so this would be perhaps a good stopping place.
	If there's anything that we haven't touched on that you think that we should go back and revisit before we walk away from this conversation, I will be here tomorrow, too, in case you get some kind of download and all of a sudden you're supposed to tell me this or that.
	Beyond the drama of that, it's wonderful to hear your story, and I think this is just another venue from which people can gather your story and understand what at least is happening to you, and some people will share this, of course.
	It certainly resonated with me on many levels.
	You've also had this very strong connection to Atlantis, as I recall.
	Yes.
	And Archangels too, which we haven't really talked about.
	Ah, yes.
	So you've had the visitation by what you call Archangels.
	Well, it could be Archangels, but those beings just appeared in September of last year.
	And once again, they just showed up in my living room.
	I have a 17 feet high ceiling, almost like a pyramid-shaped ceiling.
	And I always had...
	Strange, you know, experiences there, but I was just, again, just checking my phone and not really paying attention to meditation or anything else.
	I was just like checking, you know, posts.
	And the energy changed in the room at 10.30 at night, and I felt it was an electrical charge, very, you know, heavy, and I knew something was changing, and for whatever reason, I sent a message to my mother.
	And I said, how do you communicate with archangels?
	I mean, I don't care about archangels.
	Like I said, I'm not a religious person.
	And when my mother said to me that she was using archangels and angels to help patients instead of using the regular Reiki methods, I just said, I'm sorry, but it doesn't really ring anything to me.
	I just don't care.
	And so when I saw myself writing this, What is this?
	Why am I doing this for you?
	But still, I was in communication with her, and I was insisting on it.
	I was actually insisting on it for half an hour, at least.
	She kept telling me, oh, you can't wait.
	I will tell you, I will give you some advice and guidance on that when I come for your birthday and all of that.
	And I said, no, no, I really need to know how, I need to have one protocol right now.
	I need to know that.
	And I had no idea why I was writing this, but I kept insisting.
	And then all of a sudden, at 11.11, the beings, the archangelist beings, showed up in my living room, and they materialized at the same time, and they were transparent.
	I could see through them, but they had very piercing eyes, and they had white hair, long hair, with white robes, and they had like porcelain skin.
	Ageless people.
	I could not tell if they were 500 years old or 20 years old.
	It was very hard to say.
	But they each had different features and very slender men.
	I guess they were men.
	And they didn't really introduce themselves to me right away.
	I didn't know who they were then.
	But there was a man that walked towards me with an open book.
	He was the only one with an open book while the others observed.
	And as he was walking towards me, I really was not feeling comfortable with it.
	And my mother was still on the phone, by the way.
	Can you imagine that?
	And so I was on the sofa and he was right there.
	He was right next to me.
	And with the open book in his hands.
	And he kept looking at me.
	And almost like saying, you know, come on, man.
	We have got all the things to do today.
	Just, you know, hurry up.
	And I looked at him, and my mother then texted me saying, grab the book.
	And I didn't mention the book to her.
	And I dropped my phone, and I placed my hands underneath the book, and I blacked out.
	And then they spoke to me, and the man that was there was Michael.
	And he had that book of knowledge, I don't know what's the name of it, but it has a certain significance.
	You said, now we're going to be sharing with you the history of space and time.
	And I was through the cosmos.
	And that's when they told me about the Pleiadians, saying they have their own agenda.
	And you've been like you, in a way.
	Because you don't see, you have to see beyond them.
	Because they are, like let's say, fifth dimensional beings, but they are not as evolved as you think.
	Because there's something beyond them.
	And you are a source, a soul source.
	Yourself.
	And you volunteered for this mission.
	But you have to look beyond the lies and you have to look beyond their agenda because you are sovereign yourself.
	And that's what the message was.
	That you're a sovereign.
	We're all sovereign.
	And we're all the same.
	We are no different from one another.
	But we definitely have this volunteerism that we volunteer for these reincarnations and all these events that happen anywhere.
	In this lifetime, we just don't remember them.
	But if we go past that, then we have more say and we have more free will.
	And I think we will be able to achieve this.
	And when I hear people, even in this conference, about trauma and saying, I've been abducted and they came to me every night and taking my ovaries or whatever it is, it's just that they feel traumatized because they don't understand who they are.
	and why they volunteered for this mission in the first place and what other beings are involved in the process because it's a very complex agenda and there's an alliance involved and the galactic alliance that where my let's say star family comes from are part of multiple races and I do believe that the greys,
	the pragmatices, the The Pleiadians are all part of the same alliance, and you might disagree with me, but that's what I saw.
	Oh, no, that's absolutely fine.
	So, what about the reptilians?
	You know, because there are many different races, also the Draco, which are not reptilians.
	That's true, that's true.
	Well, I saw the white Dracos, and I had a vision of that when I saw them.
	Walking on Earth and with machine guns basically that could be triggered.
	It was a laser, but it was triggered by their thoughts as much as what they could touch.
	But they were just on Earth to just kill human beings.
	But again, this was brought to me as a potential timeline, not as a reality.
	It was just to insert fear into me and that was exactly what the thought process was.
	And I'm not driven by that and I just discarded it and I just pushed it away.
	Sure.
	Because I just want, you know, there's more to it than that.
	Absolutely.
	So, given that you see different timelines along these situations, then you must, my question is really, do you see positive and negative timelines?
	Or are they all one way?
	Yes, yes.
	You see a mixture?
	Yes.
	I do see different possibilities, yes.
	The end goal is truly for the Alliance.
	Their goal is survival, but also gain or attain a better awareness of the light source.
	Because it feels that as hybrids, and that's what I see myself as and everybody is, we've been manipulated and genetically modified to experience this reality.
	And to have emotions.
	It's almost like AI having emotions today on Earth when they're trying to create that.
	And I think there are a lot of similarities between what's going on with the alien races and what we're trying to achieve here on Earth with the AI technology.
	And I do believe that the aliens themselves are not as...
	Evolved, as we think, on that level to do with emotions and to do with the soul itself.
	Because they can control it and they can split it.
	But they still don't know how to have compassion.
	And I think this is what we have to learn.
	That's what they are learning from us.
	Aside from being manipulated for reproduction.
	Yes.
	Well, I would tend to agree on that.
	It is a problem where people put aliens, so-called aliens, on pedestals, so to speak, and consider them to be above humanity.
	This is a program, and it is a lie.
	So it's refreshing that you would say that.
	In terms of the, let's say, the Atlantis connection, and because this interview might get too long, I will probably try to encapsulate this a bit.
	Yes.
	But because we did have that sort of similarity in sort of a connection with Atlantis, and you did mention it to me more than once, do you want to say something about Atlantis and your understanding or anything that has come to you about it that you might like to say?
	I believe that, you know, I've read about Atlantis and I know that what you can read up as well is the Basque country between Spain and France has DNA that is very unique with AB negative and they share a culture and a language that is very unique in Europe and is not really seen anywhere else.
	So they have characteristics, legends that are very unique to them and which most likely relate to Atlantis.
	My great-grandmother was from the Basque country, so I have connections there.
	And I'm from the southwest of France.
	Basically, my understanding is Atlantis was a very large continent and sunk because of a global cataclysm.
	But I don't really so much know about Atlantis itself more than Lemuria.
	It feels like Lemuria was destroyed by the aliens on purpose.
	And their continent...
	It got destroyed and had cataclysms on Earth that created that.
	I'm not so sure about Atlantis.
	Oh, really?
	I don't know.
	I don't know much about this to really comment on it.
	Well, let me just say, in terms of the history that I know of, actually Atlantis was destroyed.
	It was targeted by a meter.
	It was one of the ways.
	Part of the islands sunk.
	There was another destruction that also occurred, I think maybe a thousand years later, which also was human-engineered, or the beings.
	Atlantis was of many races and many beings from all over the galaxies, so you can't say humans destroyed it.
	But there were these pockets of very dark.
	There's a lot of history, and people will disagree about things, but I'm quite certain that the meteor was a targeted meteor.
	These races use meteors as a bowling ball.
	But Lemuria was in the same boat.
	They got destroyed the same way.
	Yes, very possible.
	But they occupied different parts of the globe, and slightly different timelines.
	And our military, in fact, is still dealing with what's called Mu, which I believe is a leftover of the Lemurian civilization, from what I understand, in the Pacific.
	And there have been reported incidents where our Navy is actually at war with them slightly.
	The underwater civilizations that are still there here on planet Earth.
	But there is also a link-up with Japan, apparently, for one thing.
	So it's a vast story.
	We obviously don't have time to go into everything here.
	But it's been a lot of fun to talk with you.
	Thank you much for having me, Kerry.
	It was great.
	Thank you so much.
	And I think that people will find value here.
	And certainly, with your mission, if you want to wake up Starseeds, certainly we want to wake up Starseeds.
	So we have a similar mission, it appears.
	Yes, of course.
	This is not the only option.
	Many people are doing it, and that's great.
	We need to see more of this.
	We are definitely in this elevation process and everybody feels the urgency and seeing a change already and it's a positive change despite what people say.
	It's going to be leading to great things.
	Wonderful.
	Alright.
	Thank you Sebastian.
	Thank you for your service to humanity.

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