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April 25, 2024 - Project Camelot
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REBECCA RENFROE: QUANTUM WINDOWS & DIMENSIONS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
So I have Rebecca Renfrow with me and she is an author and an experiencer, contactee, and she has got a book here and I want to put her book on the screen briefly and then we'll introduce her background.
Just so everyone is on the right page, so to speak.
And so here, Quantum Windows and Dimensions, A Christian Woman's Journey of Faith and E.T.
Contact is the name of the book.
And I've actually known Sorry, I just got a message over there.
So I've known Rebecca and her husband, Dan, for quite a number of years now, I think.
And I was given an early version of the book.
I'm sure that possibly it got a few changes since then.
But Rebecca, welcome to the show.
It's great to have you.
And what I'd like you to do is introduce yourself and I'm going to read a short bit of your bio here, kind of a short version of it, and then we'll let you really do most of the talking about you and your background and then.
I'll just go forward from there.
So, it says that as a contactee and believer in God, she carries the reader on a chronological journey of a life that has experienced spiritual, unusual, and ET contact.
Since childhood, her waking hours of contact has predominantly been filled with positive experiences of non-human species and being aboard crafts.
And she is talking about angelic and dark forces and the paranormal.
My audience is going to be well familiar with all of that.
So I'm going to let you take over from there.
And yeah, it's great to have you here on the show.
It's wonderful to be here.
This is very exciting.
We love you dearly.
My background for your viewers, it's My background was spent on the professional stage of Broadway and off-Broadway, and I write Christian music now.
I'm happily married.
I love being home gardening, raising our garden and plants, and we have 20 pineapples now!
I'm very happy at home.
We have a ministry with our church, and just the other day, we were bringing together the black and white choirs in my hometown to try to bridge some gaps And bring and unify people together.
It was a very exciting Sunday afternoon to be dancing and moving to the gospel music and exposing people to something new.
I think many of us are that way.
We want to unite people instead of divide.
So that's my background.
I don't have to go into all the shows I've done.
That's not important.
What's important is that Carrie and I are going to be talking about the subject matters that are important to your viewers.
So here's, I want to say something about Carrie.
I want to thank Carrie for this opportunity to be here, to be on her show, and to acknowledge the fact that I'm introduced to a new audience here.
And I want to acknowledge to the viewers that are watching, I want you to know something.
I wrote it out.
Carrie has always answered every email, every text, every call.
Carrie was a reader, and she's added her support and a quote.
to my book, and I have read her material, and we really don't try to miss much of what she puts up.
Carrie videoed Colonel Bailey, who did the foreword for my book, before he passed.
And she also, before I even met Carrie, had interviewed his nephew, Rick, before he passed.
What a connection to find all of this in my life.
Carrie has been faithful to her work, her books, her authorship, her people.
She protects them, and she's opened the doors for people to speak freely and safely on all of these backgrounds.
I know, so that's my dedication, and every viewer should know that this is what I feel about Carrie.
You have a wide variety, Kerry, of listeners that are open to discussion, because you pushed us, including me, to ask the questions and connect the dots.
So, I wanted you to know, Kerry, that I'm receiving a wide variety of responses from the book, and they range from, okay, somebody will write and say, relate to the ETs, another, oh, no, no, I relate to the angels in your story.
Somebody else says, I relate to the paranormal events.
Somebody else says, I'm not afraid anymore to speak up.
And then the other day, a Christian woman walked up and said, I've not been exposed to this much, but I believe you.
And I have friends who still say, I'm sorry, Rebecca, but they're demonic.
But because I know you, I'm going to listen.
So the responses have really been interesting.
And I guess What I've gained from writing the book after all these years, which began in 2012, was that God is bigger than what we think.
It's never in the box, and that there's unconditional love.
I think that's kind of what came across to me, that as I put all of my stuff together, He's never been away from me.
I think that was the biggest thing I've gained from writing.
I'm sure you did, too.
All of a sudden, you look at your life in a different way.
For me, because I'm coming from a Christian theological background, I'm breaking a lot of these theological barriers.
I don't think the way I used to anymore.
I ask more questions than before.
I'm willing to listen to a lot of things differently.
But, God, Jesus, and the Spirit have been consistent in my life, so no matter what the answer is, because I don't have all the answers, and if I did, I'd tell everybody, You run.
If I tell you I have all the answers, run.
If anybody else says they have all the answers, in my opinion, run.
Because we all have only one part.
This is my opinion on this, that if we, when we pass, I haven't lost anything following the teachings of Christ.
And that's where I stand, above anything.
So I look back, And Carrie, I've been going forward with the grassroots proposal, which is in the mayor's office.
It's going to the next person.
And I just want you to know I followed through asking all the questions and meeting with them because I wanted to continue in my own way to to branch out and be strong like you are and go in.
And I have had meetings.
And so that the grassroots proposal for education I know is going on with SheHands, through Paradigm, through the Opus groups, through many other groups who are out there speaking, trying to get education to the public on a local level.
It's a little hard, but people are listening.
And that's, I wanted to acknowledge Kathy Martin, in case she's on today.
She was my first editor, encouraged me to write.
And George Varangas, who also was an editor.
And Mark D'Antonio, which I'm hoping you will have on soon, and I know he said he would reach out to contact you soon.
And his beautiful pictures are up at the top of each chapter, as you know.
And all the supporters who are listening today, I encourage them to come on and be a part, and to find you, so they can come on and be a part of our lives.
Put together a list of things I didn't know I wanted to ask you what you thought out of all of those.
Okay, now, I mean, I appreciate I'm going to have to interrupt here because that's a very nice introduction to yourself and I appreciate that you prepared some things ahead of time.
However.
You know, this is me talking to you and asking you questions.
So maybe another time we can do something where it's, you know, if you wanted to interview me or something like that, we can arrange something like that or more of a conversation.
But today is really about you and your book.
And your experiences.
So I think my audience wants to get to know you a little bit.
And actually, you know, your introduction gives your point of view, certainly of me, to some degree.
But what we'd like to talk about is the subject matter as well.
So if you don't mind, I'd like to back you up a little bit and have you, I know that you have been in the theater for many, many years.
And you were, I think, in musical theater, if I, Mostly musically, yes.
Okay.
And these are important to, you know, the building blocks behind your life here on earth, at least this incarnation.
And so I think that people would like to hear that.
Now, what I'd like you to do is sort of roll back the clock a little bit, and I know you probably did that in your book to some degree.
We'll let people get all the details in the book, but can you tell us why you wrote your book, what prompted you to write your book, and a little bit about maybe your first ET experience.
So if we can start with that.
All right, I'm going to turn you up a little bit over here.
Why did I write the book?
2012, I started pulling together material And putting my life in 1 through 10, 10 through 20, 20 through 30, all in groups of 10.
And I started looking at the spiritual experiences in the ET.
And then I started pulling together all of my journals.
And since I started speaking a lot, by 2014, I was really speaking even more.
So I thought, why don't I consider writing?
So Colonel, the Colonel back there in 12, he said, he said, well, we need, you need to get started, Rebecca.
And I tried and Kathy also encouraged me and I tried, but I got scared and I put it down.
I would speak occasionally and so forth and have a little interview here and there, but I kept on writing and journaling.
I never stopped.
And then Kathy called somewhere before the pandemic and the planned pandemic is.
And said, why don't you start writing again?
So we all, the Colonel and Kathy, we all started.
And so, of course, we were all locked in a great deal, and we just worked every single day.
And four years later, after 2020, we finally got the book out.
And I think it was a process for me to come out of my fear.
It's different when you write, because that's going to be permanent, a lot more than just speaking in front of a group.
And also, Kathy asked me, as you do, to all of us, because I'm here, I mean, I introduced all of that about you, because we have to acknowledge the people who helped us get here, and that's a part of it, because you're the ones behind this.
You've been doing this a lot longer.
And I'm just jumping in now, so on this kind of level.
And she said, are you prepared to face the backlash of people, particularly in the Christian community?
Because the Christian community doesn't listen a lot about the ETs and about the expansion of God's universe, about consciousness.
They stay a great deal.
I think it'd be good for you to write from a Christian standpoint, because most of your experiences have all been positive.
So I said, okay, and I just knelt down in prayer.
I got my answer, got up, kept writing, and here we are.
Do you want me to share my first one, my first experience with EET?
Yeah, why don't we do that?
Okay.
That was a good beginning.
Okay.
As I can recall, my first EET Spiritual experiences were seen as a baby.
I do have that, and I do share that in the book.
But my common denominator in terms of an ET, which is called the friendly one, tall goldens, very much shaped like the tall, tall greys of a golden color, began at seven.
And I would know when they were outside in the back field of my home here in Florida.
And I would stay dressed, and I had a bunk bed in this small room, and my sister slept on the top, and I was on the bottom.
And you could unlatch, and just push the screen out, and I'd step right down to the ground, and I'd stand there, and I'd wait, and then I, because I initially would always go out, first of all, thinking, oh, I'm gonna go out back and play baseball, like I always do, because I was very much a tomboy.
So I would go to the backfield, and I'd stand next to the mound, And then I'd go, Oh, that's right.
I stayed up to meet my ET friend.
And then a, now this process I'm going to explain, which still to this day doesn't make sense.
A large sized beach ball type ball would come down from above me and I would hold it close and then it kept reducing in size and then it would move off and then go back up.
And then the ET would show, extend its four fingers, take my hand, and we would go through this gateway or portal or stargate, very much like what you see on the Stargate series, in the Stargate movie, the silvery light that moves.
We would step through a whole section that was given just for that.
The rest of it, the rest of the entire backfield was encased in a very large dome.
That was waiting also, but the entrance was very much like this Stargate and We would step through and I would hold the I would say he I'll just use an agenda for the sake of it and We'd step through and when I was there in this dimension, which was in the back field of my house There were military there were ETS there were In the distance, you could see crafts, touch and go.
It was space within space.
And it was formulated.
I'm going to say formulated.
I'm using a new word here.
It began because my uncle would come with a particular tool in his hand and he would place it inside the garage.
And from that point where he placed it in the garage, the entire backfield would then be able to take sheep.
Take shape and somehow that tool had something to do with Formulating that ability that's beyond me technologically so that was my first encounter which that I remember from age seven and It just went through the childhood all the way up until my uncle passed later on years later and That's when it began.
Now, was your uncle affiliated with the military in some way?
Not that I know of.
I really don't know a great deal about it.
Do you know why he was the person who was involved in your ET experiences?
Do you know why?
No, only that when he would visit, he would draw pictures of me and he would take me to places.
And I talk about that in the book.
Okay.
That when I would observe him walking, one time I remember I was on the swing.
I had my kitty cats in my hand and I was swinging and he was, because he would always come over and visit everybody in the family and he would do repairs.
He would stay with each member of the family, cousins and regular family as well.
So, he'd go anywhere from Texas to Georgia to Florida and travel around.
Everybody thought he was a drunkard because he carried around this bag and they said, oh, he's got his alcohol in the bag and he's a drunkard.
Well, he carried it around the tool.
When he visited us, it was the tool.
So, he would walk about four inches above the ground.
He's tall, lanky, and then one day, this is a very good question you asked, Carrie, because one day I remember looking at him, and it was before all of it ended, and he said, Are you enjoying your visits?
Are you enjoying your travel?
You know, growing up, and so forth.
And I said, yes.
And then his face changed into the face of the ET.
Oh.
So, either underneath he was showing me a part of what he had in his own DNA, or either my uncle had an ability to shape-shift.
But it wasn't fearful.
It kind of threw me for a loop, because I had never seen his face change like that.
And, uh... Okay, now, you say he walked four inches off the ground?
Yes.
Did other people see this, or was this your sort of childhood friends?
I don't know if they did.
They never told me that.
You never discussed it?
No.
Okay, so that's kind of fascinating, and in terms of your family, because I know that you were friends with the, was it the general?
Was it, I forget, it was the general or, you know, the father of The contactee.
Do you understand?
The person I interviewed, well, I interviewed both of them.
I forget his title.
Colonel.
Oh, Colonel Bailey.
Yes.
Sorry, I'm bad with military terms.
So, okay.
So the Colonel, he was not a relative, right?
He was a friend.
No, no.
I met him in the early 2000s.
That's when we, that's when we officially met.
Yes.
And so, the reason I ask about, because you said there was military in the background of the picture that you were seeing.
There was a two-star there, yes, who would observe.
And I'm just wondering, was your family affiliated with the military?
Because you were quite young then, you were seven, right?
Right.
So, do you know why the military, were you familiar with the military?
Was that some, you know, usual, or did it make you feel comfortable?
Do you have military in your family is what I'm asking?
Yes, yes, my father, my uncle died, Uncle James died on the battlefield and my father was, and I do include him and a part of his story in the book, where I begin in chapter two, he was a lieutenant colonel and he was an engineer and so he has a whole background and I do talk about that.
All right, and was your mother in the military or not?
No, she was a homemaker.
I was born on the base at Fort Belvoir in Virginia.
I had a brother and I talk about him in the book.
What base was this?
Fort Belvoir in Virginia.
Okay.
All right.
And so when you were growing up, did you have brothers and sisters or is it just you?
I had a brother and I talk about him in the book.
He died of cancer at 11.
Okay.
So I mean, I don't remember the details to be honest, That's okay.
It's been so long, you know, so it's actually kind of good because then I can ask you these questions.
So, all right, so you have this initial, this is the first ET experience you remember.
It certainly sounds as though you might have had other experiences before that, but you don't remember them.
Is that correct?
I am remembering it now, but I don't go into them a great deal in the book, because my focus was on just some of the selected stories.
Because I'm now open to looking at where we came from, because I'm willing now to look at the fact that we may be seated here.
It still doesn't take away from Creator.
It still doesn't take away from Jesus Christ, from me.
But I'm willing now to look at the fact that All of this is connecting in ways to where I'm going.
I believe because I've had visitation from the Pleiadians who told me to come home, I was given a choice to stay.
So I think there's a lot more going on than even I can even imagine.
I just try and focus on where I am and what I'm doing right now and I made a decision to stay because I believe it's important that we pray for our planet and we do what we're assigned to do.
Sure.
Okay, so at seven you remember this particular story, but you acknowledge that there were other incidents that you've now maybe since writing the book or even just came to you over the years.
One of the things you say in your description of your book is that they're all predominantly positive.
And do you have a thought about why they're positive or what your take is on that?
How was that conveyed to you that it was a positive experience?
That's an excellent question because I really thought about that a lot.
Thank you for asking it.
I think it's because I have been, mostly what I've seen in my life writing the book, was that I've been given a choice.
I was given a choice.
A choice?
To go or not to go.
To experience something or not to experience something.
And the things that I partially remember that may be traumatic for another person are things that are coming back at a slow rate.
I do have something to which I am not able to download all the information.
It had to do with a college experience.
I talk about it in the book.
And so, I think it's because I was given a choice, Carrie, in answering the question, predominantly positive, and so I stayed that way in the book.
There are a lot of things I could have shared that are not that positive, and I mention them, but I don't go into them in depth because I don't understand it all yet.
That's fine.
Yeah, because when people write books, you know, this is your first book, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so there could be another book in the future, and I think in a certain sense, do you consider that you, I can't remember what your relationship was exactly with the Colonel in terms of his book, but I thought you had kind of a role to play in the writing of that.
Were you an editor, or what was your role with his book?
The Colonel did not write a book.
He, well, oh yes he did, he wrote one.
Yeah, I have a book.
He did, I'm sorry, you're right Carice, because I'm not... But I guess he didn't publish it.
That's correct.
He would only send it to people that he knew he could trust.
Right, because his book is actually really fascinating, so it stayed in my mind.
And I know the person involved in it, I've met the individual, and I made a promise to her not to Talk to bring her up.
Okay, no worries.
Again, my question, though, was did you have some role in the writing of the book?
No.
Okay, fine.
All right, just wondering.
So, all right, so after the age of seven and you're having these experiences, how often would you say you would have meetings or whatever you want to call them?
If I, I'd have to look down and look at my book and also.
I don't need, you don't have to be exact.
Every couple of years, I would say every couple of years, Dan and I were trying to map that out.
He was, he was saying, oh, every five to seven, he was trying to really look at it.
This is not a technical.
You know, I'm terrible with numbers anyway.
I just think the audience would be interested to know every week, every month, every few years.
Well, every few years when it would happen, like as a child, that went on all the way up until I was, wow, okay, because, oh, yeah, that went on for quite some time.
And that wasn't just every, I would say every week.
All the way up until I was at least 12, and then began to go down a little bit, and then when we moved out of the house before high school, that was the last time I remember the craft coming by, and we left that area, because I had my grandfather's house where I would be carried into dimension, into that window, what I refer to as the quantum window.
Okay, but it was your uncle, if I have this right, that was the one that morphed into the E.T., right?
Yes, that passed.
And then by high school, then things seemed to go down.
And then it was another one in college.
And then it was like every couple of years.
And then through New York.
Right.
And again, what, if you're at liberty to say, what town was it that you first had these experiences at your grandfather's house?
I'll just give the state.
That was in Georgia.
Georgia.
That was in Georgia.
It was Florida and Georgia.
And then New York City.
Okay.
And in college, all the way to Cincinnati.
That was Cincinnati.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, did you talk about this with your friends, your family, this kind of thing?
I tried to.
I tried to.
And I really didn't start talking until I left New York and came back home.
And that was 1990.
Okay.
So fairly, not super recently, but you were older then, for sure.
So when you were young and having these experiences, you didn't really share it with your... Well, I did.
I tried it this way, Terri, because I put up in the garage a group of chairs, of rows of chairs, three of them, and I had about four to six in each row.
And then I had Dad devise me a little stand-up area on some wood, a little platform, and then I put a rope which ran It's the exact point of where my uncle placed a tool in the garage, which created a line of demarcation for all of the, for that space within space to go.
And I ran it across the top of the garage and I hung sheets and sometimes blankets.
And then I would pull people in, mothers, friends, anybody who would come in and listen, sit them down.
And I'd say, now you're going to see the story for today.
And I would try to act out what was happening in my life.
That was my way of sharing.
I don't understand, but I'm going to keep watching.
Thank you for helping me remember that.
did they uh did they enjoy was it positive their response or did they at one point one day i only had one mother left and she sat there like this i don't understand but i'm gonna keep watching thank you for helping me remember that no no worries i know um i don't know exactly i'm i It doesn't matter how old you are.
I'm not asking you how old you are, but you grew up in a, certainly a while back.
So when you were growing up, you know, because each of us grow up in a generation, whatever that is.
So during those times, there are certain, it's like a milieu in which you can talk about certain things and not others, right?
So any children growing up in this time, of course, are totally used to anything to do with UFOs and ETs, right?
But maybe back when you were a child, that wasn't really the case that often, right?
Right, and this is a great lead-in to say my ability to locate a friend is when I put up on Facebook that I was going to speak in Safety Harbor, Florida.
And she saw it in Oklahoma.
And she texted me back, or messaged me somehow, and she says, Oh my gosh, Rebecca, do you remember me?
We grew up together.
You helped walk me to school.
I was such a sickly child.
I was over at your house.
I had ET experiences.
I was aboard the craft too.
I'm going to drive all the way from Oklahoma to come to Florida and visit you.
She and I put her in the book.
She was my corroboration for being young, and my husband and I took her around every time she visited from Oklahoma, a couple of years until she passed, taking her to the places where she was picked up and where she was let off.
Now, if you were to describe the ETs, you said they looked golden, but they had typical gray bodies and faces, is that right?
Yes.
Okay, and in terms of other ETs, did you ever meet any other ETs?
Yes, a very huge 30-foot long praying mantis that my uncle took me to.
I do describe that in the book.
And what age was that?
I was little.
That was the age between 7 to 12.
Now, you don't mention being afraid in this experience, the 7-year-old experience.
Because they were so kind!
Okay, so you don't recall being afraid.
It is just establishing that.
The angels were there as well, so I wasn't afraid.
And it showed me there was a differentiation between the angelic realm and the E.T.
and the dark area.
So that was shown so young.
That I was able to, they helped me differentiate between those dimensions, or those realms, or however you want to call them.
Everybody labels them differently.
That's okay.
All right, sure.
So, can you describe the craft that you saw?
Yes, the crafts, when I was little, going into dimension, we were in that space within space, they were the round ones.
So, I assume, because the military were there, they were teaching the ETs how to fly.
That just made sense.
Why wouldn't they?
Um, and touching go is what I learned later.
Who was teaching the ETs to fly?
I assumed the military, the Air Force.
I assumed it.
Why, why, I mean, that sounds a little absurd.
No, I'm just clarifying here.
So you thought that the ETs were teaching the military to fly.
since okay oh can i say it backwards on the idea that's okay no i you know i'm just uh clarifying here so so you thought that the ets were teaching the military to fly and this is was your thought when you were around seven or between seven and twelve right okay now in terms of this area of the state of georgia were you close to a military base at all Fort Benning.
That's where I grew up as well.
And how far away is Fort?
I mean, you don't have to be too specific because I get the impression you don't want to reveal the city, but can you say just vaguely, you know?
Within 10 miles.
So relatively close?
Yeah, yeah, because we were there.
I had an uncle who was there, and my cousins were there, so I grew up there with dances.
We went to see things.
My parents had been, after they got married, they were paraded.
The army paraded them around the base of Fort Benning.
Why is that?
Yes, it was something that they did.
When my dad was married, when he was in the army.
Is that because he was a high-ranking officer or something?
No, I don't know why, but they said they paraded them in the back of a truck.
I remember because it rained and she said all of the hangings had dropped in colors and got all over her dress.
I don't know why.
Who said that?
Your mother?
My mother was telling me about that experience when they put them on the back of the truck.
It was open and it was all colored and designed and decorated and the rain came and all of that It faded off onto her dress as they were parading them around the base and saluting.
Okay, so did you talk to your father and mother about your ET experiences?
My mother talked to me.
Yes, she did.
And I talk about that in the book.
Okay, but can you elaborate slightly?
What was her attitude?
Was she, you know, positive about it?
Or did she just listen quietly?
What was her reaction?
Well, I'll tell, in case somebody doesn't read about this, I'll say, my father took me, when I was little, because he took me with him to places where he was working on something as an architect.
He was an architect engineer.
So, he would take me with him, and once we went to an ocean, along the ocean side, and we were staying with some people who had constructed their entire home of wood from ships and all sorts of things.
And there was a fair going on, and my father walked with me to the fair.
And he looked like he was hypnotized as we were walking.
He was taking me to meet some reptilians.
And I wasn't scared, but he was with me.
He was holding my hand and I was surrounded with reptilians.
And I was somewhere around, I guess around 12, I guess.
And I don't, to be honest with you, I don't know what they were talking about.
They were, As you know, the reptilians can be tall anywhere from eight to ten feet, or the larger ones are huge, enormous.
And these were, they're quite formidable.
And when they get angry, you don't ever want to be around them when they're angry.
But I wasn't afraid because my father was with me.
But he looked like he was hypnotized.
And so I was kind of there, and the ones around me were, they were more gentler personality.
The one in front of me was not real, didn't have a really good attitude.
That's the kind of way I put it in the book.
Okay, so you went to, did you say it was a circus, or what was it?
It was a circus going on and I thought I was walking to the circus, but my father took me to meet reptilians.
Okay, now what I want to do is ascertain a little bit about your bloodline, if you don't mind.
So, was your father, did he have reptilian features?
Did he seem reptilian?
Did he ever shape-shift?
That sort of thing.
He was very handsome like a movie star.
Okay.
Well, you know, that's kind of doesn't really say that he isn't or isn't.
But in terms of your family and your bloodline, what is your, you know?
Scottish.
Sorry?
We're all Scottish.
You're Scottish.
Okay.
Okay.
That kind of clarifies things a bit.
Do you do you not think it's a little strange that your father would bring you to meet reptilians?
I mean was this did you go home and talk about it?
I mean what was this this is seems like almost a a screen memory or a um or some some other kind of thing.
Did you think this happened in real life or did it happen in?
I remember the place where we were and I remember the whole thing.
You remember?
They were making a decision on something, but my father, he had looked this way before when he was telling me, he says, you will remember everything in the future.
You're going to remember everything.
So when my mother was around them greeting, when they would take me at the front door, she was held with her feet.
She was wide awake and held by her feet.
So she couldn't go anywhere when they would come to the front door.
See, there were two places in our home, here in Florida, where the ETH would come.
To the front door, when my mother was there, and I would get up and just go to the front door.
It was all free.
It was free choice.
No one came to my bed, forced me, gave me anything, pulled me up, scared me off my wits, or you know, that kind of thing.
It was always by choice.
So, when my father... Go ahead.
When my father took me that day, He wasn't involved in it because I don't think he even knew he was there.
Okay, so you feel, it does sound like maybe your uncle and your father were actually taken over or have walk-ins, temporary walk-ins.
Is that possible?
I don't even go there, but if you say so.
Just estimating, because you're saying they kind of changed.
They didn't, they looked like they were in a trance and that sort of thing.
So that is what... My uncle, not my uncle, but my father.
Sorry?
Okay.
So when a person does not seem in their body, so to speak, then that is a technique of the ETs, I assume you know, of being able to move a person out, sort of slightly out of their body, so that the ET can temporarily occupy it.
And that, you know, is a technique.
Okay.
So you say this happened in Florida, is that correct?
Okay, because I've had quite a bit of people that often talk about interaction with reptilians in Florida, so there seems to be a connection with Florida in particular.
Just saying.
So, can you say, I don't know if you want to say the exact city, but can you say the general area of Florida?
Were you in North or were you in the South?
I live in Central Florida and my father went to both coasts when he was working on a condominium Or a home, or a friend from the Army.
This was probably on the Atlantic coast.
And he was, he had left the military during these years.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, he left.
They asked him to stay, but he left.
And so we left Alexandria and moved to Florida.
And that's when he went into his full architecture business.
And my mother, you ask about her.
So there were two sites there in my home, Carrie, and one was in the back, where I went to the back on my own.
The other was I would meet my mother at the front door, and that was always at night also.
I'd just get out of bed, I'd go to the front door.
There were five of them there.
And Mother described them, they were ugly as hell.
That's how she described it to me before she passed.
Those are her words.
She was a real sweet Southern belle, and she didn't talk like that.
But she did, she described them.
And I think it's because They were figures that were unfamiliar to her and not pleasant for her because they showed their faces and their different species and I wasn't afraid and I went.
In the normal course of the day, did you and your mother discuss these experiences or did she not remember them?
She would wait at the door, Carrie, and she would then put me back to bed and I said, Mom, did you ever want to talk to me about it?
Nope.
And she didn't.
She didn't until years later, 2008.
I think it was 2008.
Well, anyway, I have it in the book the exact year.
She had her sighting with a Navy officer's wife right near the home.
And where I eventually took care of her.
Because it seemed to have a path, like a ley line, where they would come over.
So she saw it, and so did her friend with her in the car.
And she was so angry.
She called MacDill Air Force Base every day.
I talk about this.
She called every day in the week.
For a whole week.
And so my family came to me and said, Rebecca, you need to call one of your friends in your UFO community and talk to her because we're afraid that they're going to come over.
And so I did.
I called Stanton Friedman.
He got on the phone with my mother, calmed her down.
And we never had a problem afterwards.
She never picked up and started screaming at them.
She said, you need to do your job!
Educate the public!
Blah, blah, blah!
Really?
Okay, that's fascinating.
So did you ever see your father and mother talking about this subject?
Not my father, but my mother with the caregiver and my husband before she passed.
So this would be later years?
My husband actually recorded her and her last statement.
Did you ask her or was it the caregiver?
Where were they from, Rain?
And she said, outer space.
The last words in the interview.
Yeah.
Now, do you remember that, like you said, they met you at the door.
Then where did you go?
And I, this is really good because I'm willing now to take a look at these two Georgia and the two places here Growing up with all of this.
I believe the front door had to do with time The back had to do with learning How to use your gifts because they would teach me how to jump off things and I would float to the ground But you had to do it you had to calculate They had there were different experiences that they would teach you and that taught me the difference between your spiritual gifts and
The EET, what they teach you, and your regular gifts, like you sing, do you dance, are you good with math, are you good with science, are you a good reporter?
Yes, yes you are.
So, I learned to differentiate that.
Okay, now, in terms of your sort of trajectory, Having these experiences, did it make it more difficult to connect with other people?
Or was, you know, as you were growing up, because you became a teenager within this situation, and you know, most people don't find it that easy to tell other people about the experiences.
I get the impression you maybe didn't, but did it present problems for you in your life?
Growing up and then getting, going into theater and then getting a job or however you, because I don't really know your trajectory, but you know what I'm saying.
Were there problems as a result of sort of quite a heavy amount of ET contact?
Twofold, yes and no.
It was easy because my spiritual gifts and the ETs, they were separate gifts.
So for my parents, They acknowledged the fact that I had dreams and visions and knowings, and was an intuitive.
So because they believed that the Word of God said, there's gifts of discernment, word of knowledge, healing, they accepted everything.
So if I came and I said, don't get on that boat, don't get on that train, don't take that flight, please don't go out tonight, la la la, whatever it was, my parents would then say, Okay, do what Becky just said and we're not going to do such and such.
And that was learning.
They did not close the door.
They did not say I was crazy.
Anything.
So that made it really good for me.
The other side was trying to tell people about the ET was difficult because from an early age, my sisters would say, what's wrong with her?
She's throwing her head against the wall.
He's trying to talk to us, and da-da-da-da, and that was a difficulty.
They could accept gifts, but it was harder to talk about the ETs.
That's the hard part.
Okay, you said, now I have to pause you here, because initially when I asked you if you had brothers and sisters, you said you had a brother, but you didn't say you had a sister, so you also had a sister.
Two sisters I have.
Two sisters, okay.
All right, maybe you're nervous or something, or didn't think about the answer to that question, right?
That's a little strange.
Now, do you have Because it you know what it sounds like I myself just let me say because this will make these questions more understandable to the audience in context, I have had my own ET contact since I was a child so.
E.T.
contact, such as you're describing, is not shocking to me at all.
Needless to say, also, I do a job like this, but what I'm saying here is that I'm curious because what you seem to be doing a little bit is changing timelines and dimensions and not always sure of which reality you were in.
Am I mistaken in that or did that start to become apparent?
It was never a problem because it seemed natural.
It seemed like a natural thing.
So as I grew up, to answer that second part of your question, when it became a problem, is when I would acquire abilities, and I talk about this a little in the book, if you have an ability and all of a sudden it becomes dominant, say to turn things on and off, to be able to heal instantly, To do something, you go, wait a minute, I don't think I want to have that.
In college, for instance, I'll give you an example.
I'm sitting around with groups of friends, and we're all enjoying a respite from our rehearsal in college.
And all of a sudden, bingo!
I'm hearing everything before they speak.
As loud as a microphone.
I hated it so badly, so I describe it in the book as, when things got to the point where I started exhibiting something, what I call activation of an ability, that puts you at risk around other people, or really bothers you, you have to turn it off.
Now that's what I wanted.
I wanted to turn it off.
I don't mind, I don't mind something if you have it occasionally, but I do mind having an ability Which is beyond, because you're called names, people will lock you away, or something of that nature.
So I would run from it.
I would put myself in my room, I would cry, and I'd beg for it to go away.
And then, after about three days, it would just click off, like a computer.
That was the fear, but it doesn't mean that it didn't happen from time to time, Carrie.
Yeah, I see that.
Now, when you talk about abilities, so you did have some precog abilities.
In other words, you would see the future before it happened, that kind of thing?
Pretty much so.
Okay, and do you still have these abilities?
Yes, like you, when I hear you talking about your dreams of the future, yes.
Like you do, we have to make a decision.
Do we go tell the person?
Do we write a letter?
Do we place a phone call?
Do we try to reach them through a mutual friend?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about your brothers and sisters?
Because you have these abilities, you have these contact experiences.
Were they also having those experiences or not?
I'll talk about this at the top.
I share my brother's passing, the story between my mother and And he asked my father to pick him up.
He said, Jesus is coming.
Take me to my cot, Dad.
And he did.
And then my father thought he was in pain.
So he runs to the store.
My grandmother is there.
And she had intuitive gifts.
She was called in the hospital to hold the babies who were passing.
And so it was next to my brother.
And as she used to tell the story, and I also heard it again from my aunt.
That my brother turned towards her and said, I see the tunnel, I see the light, Jesus is there, I'm going, goodbye.
And after a year of being in intense bone cancer, he left.
Okay, but that actually wasn't my question exactly.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, no worries.
I mean, it's all good information.
What I was really asking is, did they, in growing up, you know, when you have brothers and sisters, you are in each other's presence most of the day.
Usually families are together, right?
So you don't seem to mention them necessarily as being part of your experiences.
Were they having experiences as well?
Did you ever compare notes, that sort of thing?
I tried to, and I have in the last couple of years, and one of my sisters, when we visited, and I do include this in the book, she gave permission.
I put her drawing in.
She had her sighting when we were at the ocean.
Okay.
It opened the door.
A sighting?
She had a sighting, yeah.
And so that opened the door, but no, they did not.
They did not.
They weren't with me.
They weren't aboard the crafts.
They never, as far as I know, they never had these encounters, but they were willing to sit here and look at the book and understand what I was writing and give the okay for me to even put their pictures in the book.
Okay.
All right.
So, okay, now we have, this is a live show and actually I have to check the time here because I can't quite see it.
Yeah, so I have, okay, we have some time.
I don't usually have this, but I have back-to-back shows today, so we have a little less than a half hour to go.
So what I want to do is also allow the audience to ask you questions.
Is that all right?
That's fine.
All right.
Now, but before we do that, let's talk a little bit more about this story, because With all due respect, and I think I might have written to you when I did sort of a review of your book slightly, just a personal one.
I don't think it was anything to publish.
I have the feeling that you have, you know, what we call screen memories, and that there are things that you don't remember behind the scene here.
And you say you're getting new memories coming back, right?
Is that correct?
I'm willing to stop.
All right, and because it's, you know, it's very fascinating, excuse me, that you have an uncle that seemed to be kind of an E.T.
at the same time that he was your uncle, right?
Well, what he showed me, he was.
Yeah, so did you discuss that with your parents and or sisters and brothers that you thought he was changing into an E.T.
or that he was an E.T.?
Any of that?
My only way was to create that theater so that they would accept it because when you can't talk about something you find another way.
Sure.
Find a solution.
That was my solution.
Okay.
All right, so what I'm curious about, you know, because you are a very well-balanced, integrated, as we call it, integrated individual, so it's kind of fascinating the way you kind of describe, and of course this is just a short interview, so we can't know everything, and I don't have your book right in front of me, but I can say that in terms of you're putting a picture together, but it's got a lot of moving parts, kind of like, right?
And so I'm just trying to follow a trail based on what you're telling me.
Is there anything in your experience that was a particularly bizarre experience or something out of the ordinary within the context of having these experiences all the time?
Was there something extraordinary or very unusual that happened within that context that you remember?
And when was that?
Sorry?
To you. - Thank you.
It happened to me.
Yeah, there are a number of them that were unusual.
I think the 1997, when they designed the craft based on my DNA, that was, to me, that incorporated a number of things.
All right.
Why?
Why did they do that, first of all, I guess?
That's a good question.
I wish I knew at a camp and I knew that here again, I had had visions and dreams of this camp and I knew to go.
So I got on the internet to find out where I was.
And when I did, I called up and I said, I'll take any job there is.
And they had me work in the kitchen.
And I was in, I was over all the kids from around the world.
It was a very wealthy camp up in Maine.
And so, I mean, they had everything there, theater and everything.
I didn't care where I worked just so long as I was, I was to go.
And I had my own cabin.
I asked for it because I need quiet to sleep.
It was facing the water, a lake there.
And when they took me for two nights, they prepped me in a gel.
And that gel is very similar, in case people have seen the movie or if they haven't, Gary Sinise in the movie, Mission to Mars, when he's encased before he flies, and he's breathing inside of this gel.
With all of those energy parts going around, that is extremely accurate.
To me.
Very accurate.
And that, to me, was unusual.
Beautiful.
There were four ETs on both sides.
Same tall.
Grayish.
These were grayish more.
Not as golden as the one that I grew up with.
It didn't pass until 2004.
And they would tap the gel.
And it's my theory that because the mitochondria contain the energy of the cell, they were tapping.
And electrically, or like electrical circuits, that tapped out of the body, through the gel, through those energy components, they downloaded it through their own ability, and put it into, and designed the craft.
My name is Rebecca Langdon Renfro, 777.
And they designed seven sections in this craft, and the DNA ran across, and over, and top, and around.
The note of B-flat was there, and the next thing that the reader, that your listeners may, if they've seen the last Mimsy?
Yeah.
The last Mimsy.
Oh, wonderful movie!
Yeah.
So, when the child puts their hand, when the stones come up, and they create that That beautiful oval-shaped, beautiful section she sticks her hands in becomes atomized.
Well, that's what it was like when the lasers, because I tried to go through the lasers, and my hand starts to atomize.
I go, oh, that's not the way to go!
So, I backtracked and went around, and that's the trip I took across the cosmos to a planet.
I talk about that in the book.
That to me was a standout, the most unusual.
They brought the craft around again in 2014.
My husband and I got married in 2016 and they said, are you ready to come aboard your craft?
We're going to circle the earth and we have some education to do.
And I said, no, I want to stay here and get married.
I want to have a regular life.
I did.
And I, and I said, thank you.
And, and they went on and then 2017 and anyway, so there we are.
So yeah, it sounds a little like they were creating a Merkaba for you.
You've heard that expression perhaps?
Don't we design the crafts over the astronauts?
Don't we give them the suits that fit them?
Don't we design our jackets?
We have to have a suit size?
So to me that made, when I thought about it, that made logical sense.
You have to design the craft so the person can fly in it.
Dan wants to know what's a Mercava.
Okay, well you guys can look it up after the show, but it's basically a spiritual vehicle that you create around yourself.
You do it through a certain amount of meditation and kundalini activation.
It's just that the way you're describing what they were doing, it sounds like they were assisting you in doing that.
Look into it.
It's a nice thing, you know, it's a good thing to have that ability and to create that for yourself.
It accompanies creating what's called your light body as well.
Excellent.
But this is, you know, a certain spiritual disciplines or type of disciplines, you know, that are maybe not that common, but it's not unknown.
I think it's pretty common knowledge, but perhaps not.
I don't know.
But anyway, all right, so Okay, let's see if there's any questions in the chat for you in case there's someone that wants to go a completely different direction or might have something in particular because I'm going to sort of see if I can get this chat here.
Okay.
Not sure.
Okay, I don't see Offhand, I'm looking for someone to actually put a question mark after their sentence so that I know it's a question.
I'm just scanning this.
Let's see.
Okay, one person.
Someone wants to know your blood type and something more about your genetics.
What is your blood type?
Do you know that?
A positive.
Okay.
So both your parents were Scottish, correct?
Yes, sir.
Duncan on one side and Renfro.
Renfro fell under the Duncan heading, which was the Donaghy, which is supposed to be the oldest clan out of Scotland.
Okay.
So, you know, in this, I'm kind of trying to summarize this a bit because we're going to have to close this down.
And it's not completely a story that doesn't all hang together.
It hangs together to a certain extent as your ET contact, right?
And the spirituality that you took from it.
But In terms of your overall experiences, now I'm talking as an adult, because I know you're part of, it's all right to say you're part of connecting consciousness, for example, and that is, you know, a certain, there's a certain awareness there, and you said you were afraid to write your book initially, but then you got over the fear, and
I'm trying to get to the root of what, why, where you, you know, cause initially you're telling me you had no fear whatsoever.
And you seem to do, you could dare me to do something, climb a tree, ride a bike, play baseball.
That's what I meant.
No fear, no fear as a kid.
But when I was asking the question, it was about your ET experiences.
Fear, fear came, When I had an encounter, which I do not go into, I mention it in the epilogue.
Okay.
We have good people and bad people.
We have good and bad ET.
And encountering the bad, I did not focus on that in the book.
I did have encounters with reptilians that it was not a positive experience.
And the The worst one, so do you want me to talk about the worst thing that I was shown?
It's really up to you, you know.
All right, because we have, well, we have cannibalism on this planet.
We have trafficking on this planet.
We have all these other things that are going on.
Harvesting, organ harvesting.
Right.
You too.
And in a sense, they have been using, that's a portion of the story, which is a, which is in my opinion, a reason, one of the reasons why it's taken so long open up officially to the public.
That's just my opinion on this.
Sure.
So I was in a craft, and it was a small one-seater, and something on the right-hand side had to do with using how it manipulated, and when it folded in, everything just melded together, so it became one piece.
I was taken up above the planet Earth, and there were two ET crafts, with one on my left-hand side in front of me, Had small grays.
And when you're up, usually the space opens up and you can see outside.
They know how to do that on the crafts.
That's something they can manipulate in the body of what they used in their components aboard the craft.
So, on the left-hand side with the small ETs, and that section was open.
I could see there were approximately about seven of them.
One in the front.
And they explained the second craft, which was attached and tethered with them.
And there was an opening, and these small, small greys that looked like they were hybrids, I'm not saying they were all humans, I'm saying they were hybrids in nature, where they were ETs, but they were small, like little kids, and everyone was running around, and it was, they were crazy, they were out of their mind, and I was frightened, because I didn't understand what I was seeing,
And I wonder, why did you bring me up here to see this?
So, over on the left-hand side, I ask the ET in the front, why did you bring me?
What am I here for?
Because we're sorry that we have been a part of the abduction process of abducting humans.
We are run by, this whole group of us, run by the reptilians.
They destroyed our planet.
I do not know what planet that is.
I do not know what it is or where it is.
They destroyed it with something called a shredder and they showed me the diagram of it.
And then they said, we're sorry, we want to apologize.
I said, why are you apologizing to me?
I said, I'm not in government.
I don't have money.
I have no status.
I'm not a famous celebrity.
What on earth are you bringing me up here to show this to me for?
I said, and what can we do?
How do we save?
So I'm thinking all this in my head and I'm trying to talk at the same time and they closed the door so I could not see them or hear them.
And I said, well, what are you doing with these hybrids?
How am I going?
I'm over here.
I don't have any way to even save them.
And they were taking them.
I said, where are you taking them?
And they said, we use them for their energy.
They use them to feed for the reptilians.
And they're slaves.
I guess they have to grow up to be able... I don't know.
The whole story was not told to me.
I still don't get it.
But I do know we have the same thing going on on our own planet.
We do hybrids of plants.
We do animals.
We can do people.
We can do clones.
We can do anything here now.
But they did say they're sorry.
So I think... I'm really glad you asked me about that so that I could share that with everyone.
It's very difficult.
It was painful.
And if I talk about it any longer, I'll probably start crying, and I think anybody would.
So what do you do?
You try to get involved.
You support Shen Young, which I just did, which we all do recently, as they travel with their organ harvesting.
You attend their events.
You try to tell people about organ harvesting.
You get your story out.
You try to help people differentiate between what's good and what's bad.
We try our best.
I know you do.
Sure.
Okay, yeah, no, that's good.
So I think that kind of helps round out the story a bit, because otherwise people would really be wondering that your experiences seem to leave out a huge portion of interaction with reptilians and knowledge that people have now.
uh that it maybe not everyone listening but uh certainly a fair number so that's good that you are able to access that and um do you think of yourself to some degree as having been trained to be a sort of an emissary to bring this knowledge in your you know your own experiences To such as you just described.
And the good ones, the bad ones, the whole thing.
In other words, to the public.
That actually sounds like something of a mission for you.
Would you say that you've been trained in that way?
Gary, I believe that now.
And the night that we went to see the Shenyang, and afterwards a friend came up and said, You have, she just, she said, I really need to talk to you.
You've got two emissaries behind you.
You've got Angelix and you've got two ETs.
I just wanted you to know.
And I went, okay, thank you, because that's kind of what I feel.
And I'm glad that you see them.
I really appreciate what you just said.
So I'm glad that you asked me that.
I'm willing to say yes to that and to do my best, my small part in all of this part of disclosure.
I'm just one, I'm only one voice.
Okay, but this is valuable for people, and now, is there an email address?
I should have asked you this ahead of time, but is there an email address where people can write to you?
Because some people will hear your story, and they will be able to relate, and they would like to probably, you know, call, get in contact with you, and maybe have you listen to their story, something like that.
So, yeah, my husband decided on creating One in particular, and I will make sure I've got this right.
For interviews or for anything, because I'm keeping my personal email to close friends, and so if you have a question, Anne's going to help me go to this one.
It's ren.qw777 at gmail.com.
Okay.
And you can give that to me.
OK, you can text that to me or email it so that I can put it.
I'll put it on the page with your interview so that people can can get it, not just from the screen, but also on the page.
All right.
That's that's great.
Sorry.
She said it was a question.
I didn't say there was another question, but I'm certain there can be others here, but at the moment I'm, as I'm, you know, I've gone through here to see if there's anything that has a question mark after it that I can Ask you and grab from from the chat here and of course people can email you and ask you their questions later.
So all right I think that's good for now and I want to thank you very much for being on my show and it looks like that the screen is kind of Freezing, alternately, but anyway.
So, Rebecca, this is great, and I think that you did a great job, and it's nice for people to hear how specifically you talk about your experiences.
You seem to have pretty good recall.
I think, again, that there is a lot hidden under some of these things, because, you know, you describe Generally, but we don't have exact, you know, it's not like a narrative.
I kind of talked to you about this when I was reading your book, as I recall.
In a story, there's usually, you know, the story starts somewhere and goes somewhere.
So at the moment, there are snippets.
And what that indicates to me, listening to you, is that you have flashes of memories that don't all loop together.
You may think they do, but when a person's listening to you, they don't necessarily follow each other, if you understand what I'm saying.
So I think that that will emerge more and more as you do this, and possibly the very experience of sharing with others in a public forum.
So hopefully you'll do some more interviews with other people and stuff.
It'll start to come back even more and have a more through line as you go.
Okay.
OK, so so thank you.
It's it's it's fun to talk to you and listen.
And it's quite fascinating.
So I hope that, you know, people will take away some some great stuff here.
And, you know, maybe we can do this again sometime in the future.
OK, thanks, Kerry.
All right.
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