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PATRIOT UNDERGROUND WITH KERRY CASSIDY: WAR FOR OUR FREEDOM REPORT

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	I do believe we are live.
	So welcome, everybody, to Patriot Unwashed Day.
	Today is March 21st, 2024.
	Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
	As always, I really do appreciate everybody out there taking the time to listen.
	So, as you can see, I have my great friend, Kerry Cassidy, with me today.
	It's been a little while since Kerry and I have gotten together.
	And I'm definitely excited for this conversation, Kerry.
	For those of you guys who don't know, I think everybody in my audience pretty much does, but I always have to provide a little bit of an introduction.
	Kerry has been at the helm of Project Camelot now for more than 18 years.
	And Project Camelot, for those of you guys who aren't aware, is known really as a worldwide focal point For Truth Seekers.
	And Carrie, like I said, she's just been an absolutely iconic figure in this movement.
	She's been dubbed the Queen of the Whistleblowers, I do believe for good reason.
	She's a researcher, an author, an intuitive.
	She's an investigator.
	She wears an awful lot of hats, and they're all very impressive.
	I love having Carrie on the show.
	So welcome back.
	It's great to see you.
	Thanks.
	It's great to be here.
	Well, it's great to have you, Kerry, and I thought today we could start out our conversation talking a little bit about the royal mystery, as I've sort of dubbed it.
	There's obviously a lot of mystery surrounding the royal family.
	We've got Kate Middleton, who has not been seen publicly since Christmas.
	When she went in supposedly for abdominal surgery and there's a Photoshop, there was that Photoshop picture of her that they put out on Mother's Day in the UK, the UK in the Mother's Day version, not the US version, but obviously that was a photo that was clearly doctored and the MSM had to come out, the Royal Family had to come out and admit that it was.
	We also had a BBC reporter By the name of Sonia McLaughlin, who posted on Twitter that the Princess of Wales is using a body double.
	And she went on to suggest that the heir to the throne could actually be someone being played by an actor.
	And this is something that we have been discussing for quite a bit on this show and many other programs like it.
	So I'm just going to actually show you really quickly these pictures.
	that have emerged.
	So there's the real Kate there, and then this actor over here, whoever this individual is.
	So these are just some of the photos that have been circulating online, as you know, Carrie.
	And we've got this news story now about a breach of her medical records, Apparently there were three staff members at the London Clinic who were suspended over this.
	We've got the flags flying at half-mast.
	So the rumor mill is circulating.
	It's just pretty much out of control at this point.
	Everything from Her being pregnant, to her being dead, to her being placed in the Witness Protection Program.
	There have even been rumors that William is having an affair, and that might factor into this as well.
	So there's a lot of speculation about this quote-unquote major announcement that we're supposed to be getting really at any moment now.
	The media is just in a frenzy.
	So I kind of set the table there, Kerry.
	What do you think is going on here?
	Why don't you give us your perspective on this whole drama and we'll start there.
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	Uh, I did see something earlier today that is saying that she is, um, she was, oh, I think it's, um, Utsava is saying she was executed for, uh, for treason.
	Not sure who she would be treasonous against.
	Because technically she's not an American citizen, so I don't know how the White Hats would be going around executing her or putting her on tribunal.
	You know, I'm sorry, I'm not sure what is going on there with the person who thinks that or posted that.
	And so, you know, I don't have a lot to say about it other than the fact that There's a number of things going on with the royal family at this time, which I think the bottom line is that I keep calling him Prince Charles, but King Charles, whatever, who I don't think ever took the throne, to be honest with you.
	I think behind the scenes that he was not sworn in in a what you call, you know, whatever legal ceremony that they didn't have certain things.
	I think that special stone for one thing wasn't there and there was other things that were wrong.
	So I think that was purposeful.
	I think that He did not even, he wasn't supposed to be on the throne and he's not qualified.
	So what happens is William is the Antichrist.
	He was born and genetically engineered to be an Antichrist.
	And from my point of view and understanding of this sort of thing, I can say that the Antichrists are figures throughout history.
	They're not, you know, there's not like one.
	So I think there's maybe some religious overtones to the mix-up in that regard.
	But I know that 107 has actually at, it was at the Reckoning Festival, he sat down with, I wasn't there, but a friend of mine was there, and with a group, small group, and went into the whole reasons why he's the Antichrist.
	This time or right now and I also know that on Nino's show he also referred to this and and so has covered some of that there.
	So I think you know I had known this already many years ago.
	I just psychically knew it and so it what Juan said is verified with what I know.
	He also brought in this other piece which is the idea that Because Israel was created by the British, William is slated to be the royal king of Israel.
	And that's based on these Balfour, I think they're called the Balfour documents.
	And I'm sorry, I have a new little kitten.
	She's like very feisty.
	What happens is those documents basically say that William is the king of Israel.
	And that gets into the Dome of the Rock, the fact that in theory it will be destroyed and rebuilt even during this era.
	In fact, you know, it's one of the prophecies and all that kind of thing.
	So that has not happened yet, but could be in the future.
	I know that, you know, we know that everything's in a state of flux, so that includes Israel.
	I can say that there's a lot of details here that we're not getting, so I wouldn't jump to a conclusion that, you know, oh she's dead or this or that.
	Now, I know that Juan on Nino's show said that she had a boyfriend and that Uh, William had a girlfriend or whatever that these people are put together in a, in a, you know, arranged marriage.
	So they're not romantically involved.
	They always put out the stupid misleading imagery of.
	You know, actors do the same thing.
	I often call the fake partner a beard.
	It's an old expression.
	I don't know if you know it.
	I've heard that term, yeah.
	It's kind of like a breeding program.
	That's kind of the way that I've heard Juan describe it as well.
	Yes.
	But they're also, you know, based on a whistleblower testimony I have behind the scenes, Kate is actually reincarnated as one of the royals from back in the centuries.
	So she's not new to this game.
	Went on, and whether there's a disagreement or something, it's possible that she has come forward and went into witness protection because she's going to be blowing the whistle.
	Now, I think Juan did not say she was dead.
	He was just hinting at all the different things.
	I think, you know, once you put someone in witness protection, and Juan should know since he was put into it, As JFK Jr.
	all those years ago.
	And by the way, he went into the British, from my understanding, he went into the British witness protection at that time.
	But anyway, to understand that part of the cover story has to be that they died.
	So we may indeed see more and more coming out from the, you know, so-called royal official stories saying that she's died and documenting that and all this.
	See, I don't buy any of the documentation that this non, you know, they can they can manufacture anything.
	What is more important is understanding the Draco reptilian lineage and how they How they sort of have cloned and done what they've done through the centuries.
	And of course, if you go back to even Diana and realize that she was the Stuart bloodline, and the Stuart bloodline is actually the correct If you want to call it that.
	Royal bloodline, from my understanding.
	And I don't buy into this other guy, his name, I don't think I can remember right now, but this Australian person who I actually interviewed years ago, but he has been claiming for many, many years to be the actual bloodline heir.
	And I'm sorry, I don't remember his name.
	It's been quite a while.
	People may know.
	So like I said, I did interview that person.
	I don't buy into his story either.
	There were too many things that didn't jive for me.
	Okay.
	And I have studied actually going back because I have a vested interest in a certain way because I believe that we are really Project Camelot and we are descended from the real King Arthur and Guinevere.
	Project Camelot, and that we were the original roundtable, and I know that there's a bloodline link up with the roundtable as well, and the Knights of the Roundtable, and all of this.
	Some interpretations, and I think Juan's interpretation is not mine, I see it differently, but nonetheless, just saying that, you know, just because I'm talking about it doesn't, it just means that I have some Other information that has come to me in different ways.
	So, and I can maybe talk about that kind of link up.
	It's in my book in case people want my book is right here.
	Whoops here right behind me.
	So, in case anyone wants to see that.
	So is it your understanding, because I haven't really listened to Juan break this down in a lot of detail.
	I remember I did a while back, but it's been a while since I've really kind of rushed up on this.
	Is it your understanding that William, who supposedly is, according to Juan, the Antichrist, that he was fathered by Charles?
	Or was he fathered by one of the Rothschilds?
	Well that's what they're saying and and you know to be honest I don't I haven't followed those details so I I don't can't really speak to it but I can say that it's easy to see that he is not the child of Charles and how all that worked out and how Diana was kind of used as a Rosemary's baby
	Vessel if you will and so on and this would be a way that also in terms of the 13 bloodlines they would wrap in the Stewart bloodline through Diana so she became a sort of a victim, in a sense, of that scenario.
	And what happened after that, you know, obviously, we all know that various things that went on and her departure from the royal family and all of that.
	Do you believe she's still alive?
	Yeah, yes, I actually do.
	I have reason to believe that.
	But and a lot of when I believe something has a lot to do with one, my investigations, and then the other is my intuitive information that comes through, which prompts me in a sense to investigate further and so on.
	So I believe, yeah, I believe Diana and Marilyn Monroe are both alive.
	And I think that I I think it's possible that Diana and Trump are married and that Barron is actually her child.
	So I kind of follow that.
	You know, story, that scenario, because it resonates with me.
	You know, people have to decide what resonates with them.
	And then you do your investigation, you do your research and see, you know, if it's backed up by circumstance and so on and so forth.
	I also know that Captain Mark Richards has talked about Melania as being a communicator, an alien human communicator with Trump.
	And that she is that's been her role behind the scenes.
	So she comes from a certain alien race that is, you know, humanoid, of course, and that that is is actually the role she plays.
	Interesting.
	I had heard that Melania was, she's like Romanian, of Romanian descent, some royalty there, but is there's a, you're saying this?
	She's Russian.
	I mean, in my viewpoint, now I don't know which Russian, you know, literally, I don't know which part of Russia, because Russia has, you know, changed borders and all those different countries, satellite countries and so on and so forth.
	Yeah.
	But, Not my impression that she's a Romanian, but you know, I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong too, folks.
	I mean, I, you know, I, I, like I said, it's been a little while since I brushed up on these details and I've, there's a lot of different narratives, right?
	But what I think is very interesting and you know, one of the things that I was reminded of is that the whole Aleister Crowley, how he had written a book, I can't remember what the name of the book was, but it was really all about the whole Rosemary's baby scenario.
	Like you described the, the, um, I guess you could say the whole lesson of all the different bloodlines and that Diana was like, she was the missing piece.
	She was like the missing link to get all of those bloodlines into one individual would be the Antichrist and that he was born during a lunar eclipse if I remember correctly as well.
	It was a lot of, you know, but I will say, I mean, there is interesting things about the Crowley connection as well, because, of course, you know, Barbara Bush was considered to be his daughter, if I remember correctly, and she also Charlie Ward, and this may raise a lot of craziness, but Charlie Ward, I believe, is the son or a descendant of Crowley.
	And if you look at his face, yeah, Aleister Crowley.
	And that this whole religious upbringing that he had actually was a cover for his upbringing based on Crowley's background and his Satanism.
	Wow, I hadn't heard that.
	Yeah, because people don't know besides me.
	But, you know, no, I mean, there may be some people out there that have tapped into this stuff.
	Well, I've definitely heard that he has, and I've never spoken to Charlie before, I've never, you know, had the opportunity, and I certainly would, but I've heard that he had that sort of a, I mean, he describes his own background as being very naughty, you know, the way he describes it with his British accent there, but I didn't realize that there was that connection.
	So, but in your estimation though, Charlie's a good guy, right?
	Or no?
	What do you think?
	You know, I interviewed him, and my interview, I think, is maybe more to the point than many interviews since then.
	You know, he's a popular broadcaster.
	I think he initially, you know, he worked for the dark side.
	He moved money for the dark side.
	I mean, you know, he was definitely involved.
	Right, that's what I mean.
	Yeah, in a major way.
	But I also heard that he actually was responsible for moving all the money out of the Vatican and over to the White Hats.
	All the gold that as well so because he had this kind of experience so he came over to the white hat side now whether he was coerced or you know made a deal you know based on his past so and so I don't know yeah but you know I think he has been at least trying to work for the light since then I'm not sure whether he's stuck with it
	In the best way, it's, you know, I don't know enough details to really, I'm not going to pass judgment.
	So when you say, you know, he's a good guy, I can't, I know he has checkered past as they say, but he did do some good things.
	I know for the White Hats, I have that on good authority.
	So I would give him kudos for that.
	And I think there is evidence that he's tried to be on the good side of the path since then.
	Fair enough.
	The only reason I really asked that was because you brought up the whole Aleister Crowley connection there, and I was like, wow.
	Well, it's, you know, it's in his bloodline.
	You know, this is the thing.
	And no one talks about it.
	No one.
	I just thought this was an opportunity to just, you know, say that.
	Okay, yeah, fair enough.
	All right, well, very interesting, you know, and I think as far as, you know, we were talking about the narratives, like there's so many different narratives, whether it's pertaining to this situation with the royals or whether it's the Antichrist and the bloodlines and all that stuff, but what's interesting to me is that the MSM, even the BBC now, they're starting to question the royal narratives, you know, and that's something that is relatively new.
	You don't really see that.
	The mainstream media coming out and saying, oh wait, that's not actually Kate Middleton, that's a body double, and oh wait, that doesn't look like William.
	I mean, that's pretty interesting to me, given where we're at right now, and certainly we've had a lot of very interesting things happen in the UK recently.
	There was Rothschild's, the announcement of Rothschild's death, and now we've got this whole situation, so it seems to me like something very, very big is coming.
	Perhaps, but I do want to say this.
	What the Illuminati are all about is confusion.
	What they want is for people not to know the truth, and so you need to be in a state of confusion.
	Just because you see the media coming out with these, what seem to be the opposite side story, is actually probably part and parcel of the way they're going to be, you know, sort of conducting business going forward.
	And for a long time they've been playing both sides anyway.
	And the White Hats, by the way, are doing the same thing.
	So it gets doubly confusing, okay?
	Because you can't tell, you know, is this a good guy effort?
	Are the good guys behind it?
	And, you know, you can have a lot of different points of view there.
	So this is part of the game.
	And so never underestimate the enemy, so to speak, and what they're up to.
	Just because they seem like they're agreeing with you does not mean what you might think it means.
	And I think that's going to be a big issue going forward.
	Can you elaborate on that?
	Well, you know, because, you know, this is part of the subject, I think, for today is that when Trump gets in office officially, OK, so he's already CIC and president.
	But when that gets revealed officially and how it happens is really the name of the game right now.
	So the people in the know know that he's already He's the commander in chief and the president, has always been since 2020.
	The military actually had a ceremony in March of 2021 after Biden's swearing in, and Biden, by the way, died at that point, and everyone playing him is an actor, a double, and maybe a clone.
	So this is Front and center, what the scenario is, you know, and I don't, I'm not really interested in people that have no idea about all this, you know, you need to get with the program.
	But anyway, all I can say is that once Trump gets back in office officially, there's no more sort of sloughing it off on, oh, Biden did this and Biden did that, because it's going to be on Trump to reverse all of it.
	If he doesn't, if he doesn't come forward honestly, if the White Hats and Trump try to hide the truth, this is when we're going to have an issue, not just with me, but with truthers, because we have been sitting here Very involved and very, you know, pitching in in our own ways, whatever we happen to do.
	You know, in my case, I'm a broadcaster, but we're not going to sit around for, you know, for vacillating and equivocating and all this kind of stuff.
	And right now we have supposedly a Trump double that is coming out making statements about the facts that Trump himself would never make.
	And in theory, and you know, I wrote to Juan behind the scenes and said, you know, you guys got to keep this, you know, this double on a leash of something, you know, what are you letting him do, you know, this for?
	And the bottom line is, see, it's all about winning.
	It's all about bringing Trump into power in a way in which that the general public will accept.
	And they don't want him to be seen as having been, you know, even a military takeover of our government from the point of view of the, you know, the narrative of the United States, even though it's a lot of lies there.
	They don't want it to appear that, you know, he was forced or take or it's a military coup if you understand like you get in in what they call banana republics even though we're just as bad so this is the thing with the white hats okay and i am Not happy.
	This is really where I was going to be heading next anyway, kind of to talk about this.
	And since we kind of we jumped over the pond and we're talking about the UK, we might as well talk a little bit about your recent interview with Simon Parks, who I know is a personal friend of yours.
	Another individual that I have listened to for a long time.
	Simon kind of went dark there for a while, but I remember Back in 2021 and, you know, in my early days of my show, he was putting out updates just about every day.
	And then he kind of stopped for a long time.
	But you had a really interesting conversation with him.
	And in essence, really, that's kind of what we're talking about right now.
	And I watched that interview.
	I have to say, it raised a lot of questions about the road ahead.
	I mean, obviously, this is an election year.
	But the central question on everybody's mind right now, who's awake, is whether we're actually going to get to the 5th of November without the EBS, without overt military action, or whether Trump is going to come forward and he's going to reveal that, like you said, he's commander-in-chief, he's the president, and is that going to happen?
	During some sort of a scare event type scenario that you told us was necessary.
	So Simon came out and, you know, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but my overall take on it was that he essentially said that the election is going to move forward as scheduled unless the enemy has some sort of ace up their sleeve, something that forces the White Hats to intervene militarily.
	But his implication Seem to be that the EBS prior to the election is not going to happen.
	And that's contrary, I think, to what a lot of folks in the in the movement have been anticipating.
	And he also seemed to imply that disclosure and justice, everything that we've been fighting for and really and and and waiting on, quite frankly, is going to be delayed even longer.
	And this once again raises the question of, at least in my mind, How fluid the White Hat strategy really is, given that many folks out there believe that the moment of action has already been predetermined.
	So that's kind of a big debate, I think, for a lot of—or, you know, a big point of controversy is, like, how fluid is this plan, or is it actually Already been determined when the EBS is going to come on go off and when Trump is going to come forward So I'm curious really to hear your commentary on that overall and just your overall takeaways and then perhaps we could use that as a segue into a broader discussion I think about well, I mean the the fact that we're
	Just being constantly hit with distraction after distraction after distraction.
	Is this the use of disinformation for tactical reasons?
	Is Simon playing a role?
	What are your thoughts on that conversation?
	Right.
	Well, what I have to say is that And this kind of gels it down in one way, and then we can expand from there.
	But the bottom line now, with the White Hats, and with Juan in particular, so we're in a little bit of a, I don't know what you would call it, catch-22, because Juan O'Salvin is JFK Jr., and JFK Jr.
	was brought up as a politician's son, and he is also a lawyer.
	And so, he's an expert on, you know, running for office, as you can appreciate, right?
	He even organized a Secretary of State's group, you know, of all the Secretary of States across the United States, or whichever ones wanted to join.
	That is an arrangement that he set up, okay, and is ongoing.
	So, he is about elections, in getting, you know, the candidate in, and sort of, that is kind of how he looks at things.
	Now, he has lots of other facets, needless to say, and he talks about every subject under the sun, pretty much, but he also does a total religious overlay, which I question as how authentic it really is.
	Based on not only his upbringing but that I know of and also the logic behind it because the logic is is really skewed in certain areas.
	Not to get into that but anyway so what I want to do is with people to try to understand where he's coming from right now and where even the White Hats are coming from which is
	They need to win at all costs, and that means get Trump into office so that all the Trump team, the people behind Trump really, and all the mechanations that are going to be part of that administration can get into place to replace all the Biden, CCP, New World Order, Clones and actors that are basically in place at this time.
	If you can appreciate what we've got, we've got a huge changing of the guard that has to happen.
	And so their focus is on that.
	Now, it's very interesting to me.
	There are a couple things, and I highlighted these in my interview with Simon Parks to get his take.
	But the bottom line is that Wano Savin has kind of put himself out on a limb in two ways.
	One of saying the election will not start on time.
	And two, saying that, what was the second one?
	It'll come to me.
	Anyway, two things.
	And we can't really, you know, he can't really move off the base.
	If he's going to be right.
	If he's going to be wrong, then he's going to be wrong for all people.
	You know, oh, I know the other thing is the two presidents.
	So supposedly by this summer, supposedly I thought it was by June.
	I don't know what the date is now, but he initially came forward and he's repeated himself repeatedly saying that Families, average American families, would be talking like Kim Clement, the psychic who died, said about the fact that we have two presidents.
	Now you have to wrap your mind around how do you get from here to there.
	So something has to happen to wake people up.
	Or to make them question Biden as a president, you know, and that means question the election, the results of the election, so on.
	And again, all of this comes down to, is there going to be an incident?
	See, I again think there are two possible Scenarios here.
	Now maybe there are more than two, okay?
	But at least clearly, to simplify things, there are two major ones.
	One is an international incident in which the military demands that Trump come forward as the holder of the codes, as he, I even saw him say on stage in Minnow, not Minnow, but Minden, Nevada, like a year ago.
	on a speech, right, where he has the codes.
	He said it unequivocally.
	Okay.
	So he memorized them.
	I remember that.
	Yeah.
	But and he said it other places as well.
	I'm just trying to stress this that I saw this, you know, right there.
	So what we're looking at is a situation that requires him to come forward saying, I have the codes.
	In other words, metaphorically, my finger is on the button.
	You either back down or else I can do whatever I want.
	As far as the military, I am the commander in chief.
	Once he is pushed into a corner like that, then he has to come forward.
	He only comes forward with the backing of the military, and it's the portion of the military that's loyal to him, obviously, which does include Space Force, part of the Navy, and various other parts of the services, not all.
	Some are basically traders, as far as I'm concerned, and they are loyal to the New World Order, you know, the, what do you call it?
	Sorry.
	It's the, you know, the United Nations and this CCP, United Nations, New World Order, you know, you could put a whole bunch of other players there.
	So what we're talking about is a standoff.
	Right?
	It's a standoff situation in which Trump is sort of put into a scenario by another person, now it could be Putin, in which we already know that they are beefing up the troops going into Iraq.
	I mean, into Ukraine right now.
	And that's insane because that Ukrainian war, as far as I'm concerned, is over.
	So to send more troops in right now is very suspicious, very suspicious, and indicates that there's some United Nations, New World Order scenario playing out there, that we're going to send New World Order scenario playing out there, that we're going to send our And Juan has arguably said that they will be, for whatever reason, young black men.
	I mean, that's what he said on Nino's show.
	So that they have selectively recruited Soldiers to go over to Ukraine because Ukraine is predominantly white skinned from what I understand, which means that they will stand out.
	You know, in and among, you can pinpoint, you know, you can, if you're going to shoot soldiers, easy targets, okay, which is insane.
	So I hope some of those young men are hearing this on broadcast.
	But that's the plan.
	They're going to be cannon fodder.
	Well it's interesting though because I mean it seems to me like I mean I because I'm I'm very well versed with you know the stuff that you're saying now that the the narrative that Juan's put out there but but Simon put out a completely different one.
	I know but I haven't gotten around to that.
	Okay so you're still getting there all right.
	Sorry.
	I'm just wondering if the election moves forward let me just front load this one other thing and I'll let you go if the election moves forward and Simon is right right I mean, first of all, Trump better darn well win if we actually have an election, because if he doesn't win, then we're in some serious trouble.
	What happens, how do we get to justice?
	How do we get the 800,000 sealed indictments?
	How do we get to disclosure?
	How do we have all of these things that we've been anticipating without an emergency broadcast type of situation where everything kind of comes to a pause?
	That's the part that has me scratching my head.
	So, well, I'm sure everyone I mean, these are things where push comes to shove and and people are not going to be able to sort of slide out from under and bring up some other narrative.
	Okay.
	There's just going to be a reckoning.
	So.
	The bottom line here is that if we if I was trying to talk about Putin and being pushed into a corner so Putin really has no reason to be going back and you know he's kind of done his job in Ukraine as far as I'm concerned so at this time that was all winding down now they want to escalate it now NATO is pushing that matter okay and US is supposedly part of NATO but only the part of US that's
	Not run by the White Hats and Trump.
	So and this gets into very interesting discussions as far as I'm concerned because no one has really wanted to talk about this but when every single incident that you see is either engineered by the dark and the White Hats had to either stand down and let it happen Mitigate it or counter it.
	You understand that?
	Otherwise they're fully responsible and they will be responsible and could even be taken to task for it after Trump cuts into office.
	So you have to sort of see the long view in terms of why does it matter that Lahaina OK, was attacked and and we had, I believe we had in that case, sabotage in our own military.
	OK, in NORAD.
	OK, and I really do.
	I fully believe this.
	OK, so.
	When you're looking at these scenarios, you also have OK, we'll have two presidents.
	They're going to say one is fake and one is real.
	Some, you know, you can imagine some Democrats thinking Trump is fake and Biden is real.
	A dead man, you know, basically.
	You know, so this is what we're dealing with.
	This has been an insane hall of mirrors, you know, the emperor's new, you know, new clothes kind of scenario.
	In which Biden is the emperor with who's basically got no clothes.
	So we're looking at a situation where all of these things have to play themselves out in one form or another.
	Okay, and then there's this the Supreme Court option.
	Okay, so I've kind of covered and you know in in the war the war thing, you know war.
	And the war with China, by the way.
	According to our whistleblower, going back, I've been doing this like 20 years, going back 19 years, saying that in the future all of this was going to happen, that war with China was planned, orchestrated, and it would be a preparation for war with aliens, where all they could bring out a lot of the toys and test them with China, in war with China,
	But then that they would be ready and primed to actually go to war with the invading aliens.
	This is what we were told.
	You know, I'm not making this shit up.
	So, when you look at it like that, then you have to understand the orchestration behind the scenes of powers that be who agree to go to war.
	Okay?
	With an outcome that may be undecided or may also be decided.
	Can you wrap your mind around that idea?
	In other words, we like to think these things happen, like, blow by blow, but actually, it's very, um, what I understand, and this, you know, this goes back to Pearl Harbor, and how they got the United States involved in World War II, and, you know, the Gulf of Tompkins, and all the different things where these, you know, anything that happens politically has got a planning behind it.
	And it's a matter of, like, kind of who comes on first first.
	And so.
	That's kind of where we're at.
	I think that Juan is also, as the White Hats, and I've said this many times and he's told me this basically to my face, that they are consulting an AI.
	And so are the dark side.
	And then you have to say, well, is there any overlay between the dark side AI and the light side AR?
	Any influence happening there?
	And can you trust them?
	And so on and so forth.
	But he seems pretty safe in his own job or whatever you want to call that.
	Actually, what I've been told behind the scenes is a military officer higher than a general.
	So I don't know what's higher than a general, but just saying.
	So these are things that people are not taking on board.
	They're not understanding.
	So when they look at all the different puzzle pieces, they're not wrapping in these things that I'm talking about.
	And, you know, I don't think they're seeing the long road.
	The long road involves planning, and that includes Putin being alongside Trump.
	So that let's say that Putin knows that at some point, With NATO's actions, he is fully in his rights to basically make a nuclear threat against some portion of NATO or some, you know, part of whatever country is I'm pushing the notion.
	It's just a theory, okay?
	So what I'm saying is that, you know, it's kind of like, let's say I'm going to play a game of tennis with somebody and we're going to set it up in such a way that at a certain point I'm going to be able to make a stand, right?
	It doesn't mean the end game of the stand is not already decided.
	So I can make a stand.
	I can say, you know, I'm going to do this and so.
	Knowing full well that Trump is really this, I know that Putin knows this, okay, unequivocally he knows this.
	And to Phil's credit, and everybody who wants to go crazy when I say his name, he actually, you know, has backed that up very substantially, is the idea that Putin knows That Trump is the CIC and the true president of our country, which is one of the reasons why when Tucker asked Putin, he hadn't talked to Biden for a year or something.
	Well, the last thing we heard was that.
	You know, that Putin hung up on on Biden and said, you're president of nothing, quote unquote.
	So I don't think that's changed.
	I know what he says publicly about Biden.
	You know, he was even saying, well, I hope Biden wins because of Sunset.
	These guys are politicians.
	They're playing a game and they're playing a game for the benefit of the people so that they can conduct business behind the scenes the way they want to do it.
	And it's also to mislead the enemy always, right?
	So keeping that in mind, looking at the scenario going forward, I am concerned that the EBS, it's looking less and less possible, partly because getting back to Juan as the statesman that he is.
	And the White Hats, as the way they've even conducted themselves up to now, is to try to be as legally in the lines as outside.
	Now there's a certain area they're completely outside, and that has to do with what appear to be executions, you know, and all that.
	But What we're saying here is that they prefer and Juan prefers over and over again to keep trying the legal way.
	I guess in part to back themselves up as saying that we tried everything in the legal way so that when military martial law comes upon our country it will be Under the, you know, Trump will be able to say, we tried every way to right this ship without, you know, actually pushing the narrative using the military.
	But it is going to come down to, and Juan has said, ever since he started talking publicly, it's all going to come down to the military.
	And I believe that.
	So with that in mind, let's look at the presidential election, because Juan keeps saying it's not going to start on time.
	Now, I also say that if you're going to have an election that doesn't start on time, whatever is going to happen has to happen in such a way that it's probably not going to happen tomorrow.
	Because we're still in March, and there's too many months in which they could clean up whatever the disaster is, right?
	The false flag, that this thing, the highways that were, you know, won't work.
	Unless you're going to bring in, which could easily be a card that has to do with earth changes.
	That where the United States has certain earth changes that are unequivocal and would Change the face of our country such that we had you couldn't even have a presidential election and that would keep Biden in place during that time, which would be absolutely horrendous.
	So.
	I know there's lots of different things that I'm throwing out here, and we can kind of drill back.
	It's fine.
	Sure, sure.
	Well, I guess let me just kind of, you know, circle back to, you know, what I was saying about the debate, shall we say, about the different narratives about how fluid is the plan versus, like, how much of that talk about the plan being fluid.
	You know, Juan says, well, they make a move, we make a move, they make a move, we make a move.
	I question that, you know, in a sense, because if we already know what the end game is going to be, and Q made that very clear, that we think logically the only way is the military, and I completely agree with that.
	I think that it makes a lot of sense, and we've also pretty well established that regardless of who Juan is, I mean, he certainly engages in disinformation as well as intel for tactical reasons.
	So I think that there's a tactical advantage to having your enemy believe that the situation is a lot more fluid than it actually is in reality.
	And I think that, you know, so for me, you know, the military is the only way.
	Then how does that translate into no EBS?
	Election 2024, business as usual.
	I mean, the wheels are falling off in about a million different ways.
	You know, we've got the economic situation, you touched upon the geopolitical situation.
	We've only really talked about Russia and Ukraine specifically, but the stuff is just, you know, it's kind of escalating all over the world.
	So it seems to me like this is all part of the show.
	And I've been saying that for a long time.
	That's been my perspective.
	It's not that everything is fake.
	Because you run out of real estate real quick if you try to go down that road, but that a large portion of what we're being presented with, the lion's share of the information that we're being presented with, is primarily disinformation to keep us distracted.
	I just don't see a pathway To justice and to real disclosure, if the plan is really as fluid as they say and as Simon is saying, well, you know, the white hats, they just don't, you know, they want to make it as painless as possible.
	I think I heard Charlie Ward say something similar.
	We brought his name up earlier.
	He just did a show talking, you know, very similar way about the white hats want to make this as painless as possible and all that stuff.
	And I think that what, you know, the reality of the matter is, is that sometimes I think, and this is not to say anything bad about any of these people we're talking about, but sometimes I think they underestimate the intelligence of who they're talking to.
	Right?
	And they're putting out narratives out there as if we're not going to see the disconnect.
	And you know, you and I have talked about Juan putting out various different narratives.
	I mean, he's said a lot of things, that's true, but he's also said a lot of things that haven't come to pass.
	And I think that what's happening now is that people are just kind of saying, you know, I mean, everyone is basically, I think, on the same page is that if we don't see action in 2024, And we get to 2000, the election of 2020, 2024, and it's business as usual, at least optically, on the surface.
	I mean, we can talk about what's going on behind the scenes all day long, but the fact of the matter is, is I think that the time is running out for the White Hats to really make a move and to actually, you know, to hold all of this stuff together, because I think more and more people, quite frankly, are just not buying it anymore.
	And I think the reality is that people just don't want to hear, and I get it.
	I get the need for the disinformation.
	I get that it's all about winning, right?
	But there are a lot of people out there, the average person, What they're thinking about is, is something actually going to happen, or are we getting played?
	And that's really the mindset, I think, of a lot of the people out there, as opposed to the individuals who are, you know, doling out all of this quote-unquote intel.
	And, you know, we're pretty deep into the process now, and, you know, people, we have memories, we can remember the narratives, we can remember the things that we were told, and now all of a sudden we're being told something completely different.
	And, you know, here we are in an election year, like I said, and people are, quite frankly, we just don't want to hear about, you know, the election going forward.
	Now, look, if it does, if that's the reality, the simple fact is we all have to deal with that reality.
	But I think that at this point in time, you know, all of these different narratives that have been putting out, that people have been putting out there, and now there are just so many different conflicting ones, I think that's a real issue.
	And, you know, quite frankly, I just don't see, you know, I don't really see how that's benefiting the Patriot community at this point and how it's really benefiting the, you know, it's like, do you get what I'm saying here?
	I mean, it's kind of like, We're sort of at a point where people... This is not... I mean, again, I get where you're going, but I say, you know, that's why I started my discussion starting with Juan's background, because, again, as a statesman, as a person, and also as one of the leaders, ostensibly, really, seriously, This is my point of view.
	Now, you don't have to agree with me, but based on everything that I've seen done and been exposed to, even in person, I can say that this is my evaluation.
	And the bottom line is that they have to win at all costs.
	And that means that certain things go by the wayside now as it's kind of like you narrow the game down.
	There's also the discussion saying 5D chess, but sooner or later your options start to get more limited.
	So I think that we're doing that.
	I think that things are narrowing themselves down.
	And we're beginning to see, are we going to hit pay dirt here or there or where?
	And yes, patriots are understandably maybe frustrated, aggravated.
	Some think it's all wonderful hearts and flowers and we've won already and it's all, you know, done.
	And myself, because of my background and investigation of the dark side, I can say that I do not think underestimating your enemy Especially the closer you get to any kind of a win is a good move.
	That's like the epitome of stupidity.
	So you do not want at this late juncture to be underestimating their moves.
	Now, I think that's true.
	I think the White Hats are smart enough to have that point of view as well.
	So even though they've got their ship sort of, they're geared up, you know, they've prepared in certain ways, there are certain, you know, left hooks or whatever you want to say that the opponent can throw in.
	And there is also The X Factor, and you could even call that the Alien Factor, okay?
	So, they can do everything they want, right?
	Here, humans on Earth can play all the games they want, but at the end of the day, we are being impacted from off-world, and this is going to become more and more obvious the closer we get as time goes on to this reality.
	So, You can talk all you want, you know, the White Hats don't want to talk about the alien card.
	In fact, they even want to sideline me right now because I threaten that their narrative, you know, that is supposed to be straight and narrow.
	Vote for Trump.
	You know, that's it.
	I can say vote for Trump.
	That's great.
	But I don't think it's the only story.
	And as an investigative journalist, I know it's not.
	And I can say that We need to widen our view of the playing field to see also what's coming after that because that you know there's there can be some some actually you know spiraling out of control aspects to that you know it's kind of funny you know you try it's kind of like maybe if you look at it this way
	Like, you had something you wanted to do forever, you wanted to go on a vacation, you wanted to leave, you know, you had a fantasy about how wonderful it was going to be, or you wanted to get a job and then you were going to get that job and then you were excited because you're getting that job and then all of a sudden you get the job or you're on the vacation and it's a whole different ballgame, right?
	Because you're in the driver's seat at that point instead of Being on the outside.
	Even if you're not really on the outside like Trump, he's been pointing at it.
	He's pointing at the game as if it's happening without him.
	When we know the reality, the game, it's a game.
	You know, it's just like the Royals are doing, right?
	They're pretending they don't.
	Oh, this is just happening around them and oh, you know, they're the victims or whatever.
	No, it's not like that.
	So, When you're talking to us, I think that eventually the people out there around the planet are getting smarter and they're getting more hip all the time and I think it's going to be harder and it is harder and harder.
	to deceive them into thinking that you're you know oh innocent and that Trump just fell into office and oh he had to deal with the jab and he would he just came out in favor of it because he didn't know any better or what of the hell all I'm saying is that these things are not going to fly in the future and when we look back even From the point of view of history, let's say of 2025, looking back here, these things are going to be exposed.
	Players that have done nefarious things are going to be exposed.
	It's inevitable.
	And that includes the White Hats.
	And they're going to have to try to tailor The narrative in a certain way, but they can't get rid of people like me completely.
	Okay, or you or others that have the guts to question the narrative regardless of who it comes from.
	Right?
	And to ask our leaders or so-called leaders, people that have, you know, we've given the go-ahead, they work for us, okay?
	So if they are not conducting themselves in an honorable fashion and they are not Staying true to their word, then we're going to have an issue, okay?
	And when I say we, I mean the MAGA people for sure, but it can also be the population at large.
	I think less and less tolerance is going to be the name of the game, if you will.
	Yeah, well that's kind of what I was suggesting.
	Yeah, so push will come to shove, and it is coming to shove, and you know, and so and so forth.
	So, you know, there are some, I don't know what you want to call it, some benefits along the way.
	I think, for example, See, I believe in the power of the individual to change the world.
	And someone like Tucker, with all the backing he had to go and interview Putin in person, you know, assuming you believe that part of the narrative, and I do, I think that that indicates that there is some surprises along the way.
	that not in the fact that he just did the interview but the fact that within the interview the personalities started to reveal themselves and Putin came forward as kind of as you know as the wily guy he really is.
	He didn't reveal himself completely but he definitely You know, sort of gave lots of hints to Tucker.
	Now, Tucker could ignore those hints, but when we're watching these kind of things, we can see.
	So, you know, these people who have been our, you know, statesmen and royals and all these different roles, right, have been hiding behind facades and lies, lies, lies, and layers of lies, right?
	Forever.
	It's not going to hold going forward.
	And once you know that, then you can start to peel away Those things and not get caught up, in other words, get a through line, start to understand the narrative overall, where we're headed, why we're headed where we're headed.
	And when I tell you that we are going to be going to war with China and an arranged war to test our weapons and all that nonsense, then we're going to go to war with aliens.
	I am not kidding.
	This is the reality.
	Juan knows it.
	Trump knows it.
	Melania knows it.
	You know, if you don't want to know it, well, go hide your head in the sand and see if it works.
	So you're saying that the United States is going to have a full-scale war against China?
	I'm saying we'll have a war.
	I don't know how it's going to be conducted.
	I've anticipated Taiwan was going to get hot at a certain point, that they were going to go in there.
	We already have green... It has to be.
	You've got to understand how the enemy... You've got to have two sides.
	This is the scenario, okay?
	Even when the sides are like two wings of the same bird, as Jordan Maxwell would say, You know, you have to have ostensibly two sides to get this.
	You need a thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.
	This is a Gurdjieff principle that he, I think, popularized, but it is the nature of the system of polarities, let's say, that we live in.
	So, this is inevitable.
	And yes, China and the U.S.
	are stepping, in a sense, we're in a soft war already.
	We're already at war.
	We're already at war with the United Nations.
	You know, somebody sent me a document today, I don't even think it was a legal, you know, official legal document from the United Nations, but basically saying they're going to take over our country on March 17th of 2025.
	And their troops would be on our streets and so on and so forth.
	And I said, well, thank God Trump's going to win before that because that is not going to fly.
	OK, but this is a plan for sure.
	I'm sure it's a plan.
	You know, the date might be different, but the plan is in place.
	And they've been working on this plan by putting Biden in office in our country, you know, and bringing in all the illegal Illegal, you know, military men and, you know, theoretically women as well.
	So, not to mention, and you know, it always bothers me when they want to put limitations and parameters on the narrative such that you're not going to say, oh, they're bringing in the X-Men scenario, which involves
	human gray human hybrids that are now in their 20s 30s and 40s who are military aged who have in theory some of the gray powers that they could levitate things and do this and that
	You have to understand these scenarios because they are ongoing right now and that and I've even talked about the AI and the the deals we're dealing with on the AI and the you know it's it's very interesting what it's it's kind of like a collision of events right coming from so many different directions and right now
	Sad to say the White Hats want you to only see one element of a big 360 degree picture and that's not going to be good enough going forward.
	We need an educated populace.
	We need a populace that is ready and willing to take up the fight on all these fronts that are going to come forward in the future to demand honest honesty
	You know, as long as, you know, they want to keep their military operations ongoing secret, but if they've done, look, if they've been doing tribunals for the last, I don't know, six years and killing people, you know, after giving them a military trial, It's going to come forward.
	You can't keep popping out clones and think that that's going to satisfy the populace.
	And again, why do they do that?
	Why do they do half these things?
	Maybe even 90% of them?
	Yes, in a sense it's for a show to keep people dumb.
	Well, if both sides want to keep people dumb, maybe for different reasons, but nonetheless the same result, You keep people dumb.
	It's not going to stand.
	They are being exposed.
	We are being exposed.
	It will continue.
	The exposure is going to be known because of people like me are out there and there are lots and lots of us and we're not going to stand by with these sales jobs that these people are trying to put down in front of us every single day.
	Well, I agree, and that's why I think, you know, the analysis has to be a sober one at this point, you know.
	I mean, I think it's one thing, you know, it was one thing a few years back, you know, to just kind of soak in all the information and everything, but I think at this point, people are saturated.
	And, you know, what folks are wondering about, and I get what you're saying about the big picture, and I'm in agreement with you about the big picture.
	You know, involving AI and all the other topics that we've routinely talked about on our discussions together.
	Yes.
	But I think that the average person right there, I guess my point is that the average person right now, yes, they're concerned about that, but I think the more immediate concern is how this year is going to play out.
	Because I think a lot of folks have that kind of lined-in-the-sand mentality, quite frankly, where, you know, if they don't actually see some actual proof, because we've been talking about these things now, speculating, and certainly we've been looking at a lot of evidence and analyzing things, but I think we'd be lying if we said that we had
	Actual overt proof that we could present, or irrefutable is the word I was looking for, irrefutable proof that this is actually, you know, an ongoing military operation and that we're actually heading in the direction that we think we are.
	I think that is really the main issue, I think, that folks are so concerned about and for good reason.
	Because if we get to the election, And we see whatever we see, but we don't actually have the EBS.
	We don't have any kind of interruption or pause like Trump talked about.
	I mean, what effect is that going to have on the people?
	And, you know, you said that, you know, that the White Hats really are trying to get, you know, Juan specifically trying to get everyone to kind of look through this very narrow lens.
	To me, it just doesn't seem like that's a good idea.
	And I think there would be an agreement.
	And not only that, it's not effective.
	It's failing on just about every front.
	Less and less people are buying into it.
	More and more people are questioning it every single day.
	And so it's like the more they're trying to sort of like tighten up the narrative, The more it's slipping out of their fingers and out of their control, and I have to wonder about that, and given who, you know, you're adamantly of the belief, and I completely respect you and I'm not going to debate you on it, but you're adamantly of the belief that JFK Jr.
	is Juan, or Juan is JFK, however you want to say it, to me, and I've kind of shared some of this, you know, some of these sentiments with you privately, I see somewhat of a disconnect there between what they're trying to push in terms of the narrative and the overall Great Awakening, like you just described.
	We're in the season of ascension, of the awakening, and if somebody like John F. Kennedy Jr.
	doesn't understand that and isn't operating in a way that's consistent with that, as opposed to going in the opposite direction and trying to keep people dumb and trying to keep everybody inside of a box, I think I see a little bit of a problem with that.
	Sure, well you can get it down to an individual like John, but I think you have to ultimately understand, just as you do with Trump, that he's working with a team, and in his case a military team.
	So he is kind of, you know, he's with a certain number of generals who came on board to support Trump.
	A certain number of, you know, maybe wealthy people, Who are making sure that these people are viable on a financial level?
	I mean, all the different players behind the scenes, so I don't think you can, you know, you can't really pin the narrative on the person delivering it.
	You know, that would be a mistake, right?
	Well no, but he is the main spokesman of the White House.
	He is, but again, don't kill the messenger.
	What I'm saying here is that he is reflecting what is the line of thought that the White Hats want projected, okay?
	That is his job.
	Now, I'm sure that he has his innermost Thoughts and feelings and votes, even, on certain issues that he doesn't get the rest of the team, so to speak, to get on board with, right?
	One of those might even be the VACs, for example, because he came out adamantly against the VACs.
	But I think that was also a strategy because I think my dog's trying to come in.
	OK, so she's scratching at the door.
	So what I'm saying here is that, you know, I wouldn't get too much over on the blame game yet.
	I think what you have to do is understand that these people, Trump included, Even the Trump double, or doubles, right?
	All presidents have doubles.
	Or the doubles of Biden, you know.
	These are, you know, these are the front men for a whole group behind them that is pushing for a certain outcome.
	And along those lines, if you have a certain outcome, as you can appreciate, and you're part of a team, then you have to play those points that the team most wants.
	Now, I am going into the psychology of this particular person, which is 107 JFK Jr., with a purpose in mind because it seems to reflect in many ways his leadership, if you will.
	And his role as a spokesman do seem to be aligned with regard to certain things, okay, like emphasizing over and over again, going the legal route first and foremost.
	And really exhaustively, in my opinion, you know, he's almost always talking about that.
	You know, the Tina Peters thing now is the latest.
	avenue in that regard right that she is going to her trial she's going to win and you know all her backers are going to profit from that and the white hats are going to profit that there are a lot of these kinds of trials in in some kind of funnel and once you know you can appreciate it's kind of like this has got to be a takeover so we were taken over right
	actually many years ago going back to the kennedy assassination if you want to go back that far and maybe even before but definitely the gauntlet was thrown down at the kennedy assassination From then on, we were taken over, and 9-11 was a case in point, and there were so many dominoes along that line, where we lost our rights, the Patriot Act, etc, etc.
	I don't need to go into all of it, but it's obvious this takeover was a takeover, and it culminated In the in the stealing of the 2020 election and putting Biden in place, all right, that is unequivocal.
	So with that in mind, you want to turn that whole, you're going to flip that back on a complete different trajectory, not just going opposite from the original plan that they had, the opposite opposition, but also paving a role for a new tomorrow for
	You know, for humanity, because he often talks about how we're doing it for the United States and then we're going to be our brother's brother and go help the rest of the world.
	In other words, humanity was taken over way before the Kennedy assassination, but our takeover on the political scene in terms of the United States had a culmination point, a very strategic milestone, if you will, when they assassinated John F. Kennedy.
	Even whether you believe he was actually assassinated or a double or what happened there.
	He was taken off the scene in whatever form or fashion.
	So the bottom line is the White Hats at that point had to kick start their movement Go very secretive and basically, you know, take names and start taking numbers and really figuring it out in terms of actual action plans.
	And here we are.
	Okay, we're at a culmination point.
	That cannot be ignored.
	The 2024 election is a cutoff point.
	for a lot of what the White Hats have been working towards easily since the Kennedy assassination.
	So, losing is not an option.
	Winning is the only game.
	Along those lines, there are, you know, there are layers.
	So, we talk on different layers, right?
	For the general population, it's only a question of, are we having an election or aren't we?
	Who do you vote for?
	Right?
	That kind of thing.
	For the people that want to delve deeper into it and realize that, look, When the 2020 election, you know, I know we've gone over this stuff over and over again, but it is worth repeating.
	When the 2020 election was stolen, there was an opportunity for Congress to put a pause, to say stop Don't inaugurate Biden.
	We got to look at this.
	You know, we talk about the DNI came forward.
	He had information from the intelligence agencies.
	Most of them would not play games.
	Do you understand they're all traitors because of this?
	They are traitors.
	If not the lower ranks, the leadership of all these agencies that didn't step up to the plate with the D.N.I.
	and say, one, he already said they had reached the conclusion the C.C.P.
	had interfered on the election.
	And they did nothing.
	They did nothing.
	Well, as an American, that's an affront to me.
	That is a crime and you are a traitor.
	No other way to put it, okay?
	Do you know how many in Congress are guilty of this?
	How many were bought off so that they didn't vote to take 10 days to review the results of the election for election fraud, etc.?
	And what about all the courts?
	You know, when you draw the scenario of what has happened to our country in the last, you know, ever since the 2020 election, it was building up to that point, but that was the coup de grace.
	That was what really unequivocal and our country was taken over.
	That was a coup on our government such as it was even, you know, a government that had been put in place by the Bush dynasty, okay, who were already, you know, Nazis and traitors to the American, you know, way of life.
	This is what we're dealing with.
	We're not dealing with just some, you know, like, I guess, intellectual contest on certain topics.
	And to wrap all that in there, we have clones, doubles, you know, if no one out there Except for the MAGA people or certain of us know that they're cloning people on a regular basis and that that's been part and parcel.
	Of the White Hat operation.
	That's a good guy operation and a bad guy operation.
	This is how conflicted and how completely contradictory these various things have been.
	Wouldn't you agree, Carrie, if we do end up having an election in 2024 that everything that you just described, all of that criminality, The election, the treason, every single bit of it.
	That is going to be more or less the end.
	That's going to be it.
	That's that's it for that chapter in history.
	I mean, if we don't rectify, we have a very small window here.
	I mean, Juan has been talking about it.
	Trump has been talking about if you don't get, you know, if you don't return the diamonds, if you don't have you'll never have another election, all this stuff we've been hearing now for years.
	And that's, I think, where this kind of sense of anxiety inside of a lot of people is coming from, because we're recognizing, unlike, by the way, Yeah.
	What happens to all that treasonous activity?
	What happens to all these traitors in our government?
	Well, like I said, I think it will all come out.
	I mean, you know, I think it's good that we're talking about this because I feel that these are the topics on the minds of Americans and especially, you know, people that think and research and are in this game.
	People that have been avoiding even my colleagues who avoid certain subjects and don't want to talk about them and you know don't even bring up you know who Juan is or any of that stuff you know they're they're sort of living you know in in their own Private Idaho, in a way.
	But bottom line is, I think if you have an inquiring mind, you definitely can see that we're coming to a reckoning, if you will.
	And that, yes, there are inciting incidents that the dark side could Basically try to propel into being.
	And I was just looking at, I know this might sound off and left field, but not necessarily.
	You know, the one card that I don't talk about, which would be the third card, besides, you know, I say the Supreme Court ruling or a court ruling, right, that would expose the 2020 election and Trump and Biden would be the president.
	So, you know, so-called So that's one of them.
	The inside, this huge incident that would make Trump come forward as CIC.
	And then the third one actually is, could be earth changes.
	And that could actually be the card they play, the dark side, beyond world war.
	They could still play the world war, you know.
	But that might not be the primary mover and shaker of trying to change our reality in such a way that the dark side can mitigate, let's say, the blowback on them that's definitely headed their way in spades.
	Okay, and that means exposing all the pedophilia, the satanic royal family practices, etc, etc, that are more and more coming to the fore.
	Adrenochrome highway, you name it.
	So what we're really talking about are earth changes that could miss suddenly spin people's heads around.
	So they get into this survival mode, right?
	And then they're, you know, buying groceries and all that crazy shit and, you know, but there is actually a Netflix movie right now talking about satellites that create, it's through the weather wars scenario bit, that also brings in the EMP and the solar flare and somehow some major disaster happening that has been actually I would say that is man-made.
	So it's not that these elements aren't at play even right the second as I speak.
	You know, we have earthquakes, we have this, we have that, but it's only a matter of degree when you go from one thing that's a five-point earthquake to an eight that topples buildings, okay, across the landscape of LA, let's say.
	That can be an election de-layer, if you will, at the very least, and something more beyond that.
	So it's worth noting and, you know, a lot of people are talking about, let's, you know, before we close down, at least touch on this.
	A lot of people are talking about April 8th and the solar eclipse and that there's all kind of warnings and stuff like that.
	You know, people are not remembering that I already did shows in which my website got taken down.
	And by the way, my website has now been down for six weeks since I did the interview on the Kennedy assassination, and I've hired a new webmaster.
	He's rebuilding my site, so stay tuned.
	But I've moved a lot of stuff over to Substack.
	I'm still very active on Telegram.
	I have my Rumble channel, so you're not missing any videos.
	They're all there.
	But the thing is that my website has been a mess now for six weeks.
	It's just a disaster.
	It works one day, works one hour, it doesn't work the next.
	And the new guy is even going, his head is spinning, he doesn't know what the hell.
	But anyway, what I'm saying is that we are looking to a future in which There are x-factors.
	There are things that have not been figured by either side that could be the result of planning behind the scenes by the dark side on the one hand, natural events that were already coming anyway, and Richard Allen Miller, the physicist I interviewed two years ago, said end of March
	Beginning of April, there would be, 2024, there would be a major event and it would be, he called it a Carrington-like event, but not extinction level.
	And it involved, as far as he was concerned, earth changes, etc.
	And he works for Navy Intel.
	He's actually freely admitted it on my shows.
	And he's a brilliant physicist.
	And a magus, by the way.
	With not just dark side magic but light side magic okay and he's a good man.
	The thing is that you're looking at a scenario and then he came forward a year later and said oh I didn't mean 2024 I guess I was wrong even though I said it was a three sigma certainty which is a mathematical military term.
	Um, that this would happen in 2024.
	No, it's going to happen the same time in 2025.
	So then Trump would be in office when it happened.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	I don't even know if any of these scenarios are real.
	I just know that this is also, it's, it's kind of on the playing field.
	So you might as well look at it, you know, and discuss it briefly if you are interested, but it's worth touching on.
	Okay, well let me ask you this, I think the answer to this question is probably no, but do you think, I mean Q told us that we're watching a scripted movie, and you and I, you know, we've mentioned things about Q in the past, and it doesn't seem to me like you're in agreement with that overall statement, let's just say.
	I don't think outcomes can be scripted, and I think this has been proven by Looking Glass, by the way.
	What they give you is percentages of probability.
	They don't give you direct outcomes.
	Now, the AI may operate differently and, you know, arguably Looking Glass was the preamble to the straight-up AI.
	Not to mention that there are, like Mark Richards said, at least six, probably a lot more than that, AI incoming, alien AI to our planet, okay?
	So they get into the mix as well because these AIs can merge, all right?
	And I've also, we've done shows and I've talked about various things like Solomon Berg talking about there being one AI running Mars and, you know, I have other whistleblowers who said the same thing and so, you know, these things do seem to coalesce.
	So what we're talking about is Is it a play?
	Yeah, All of Life is a play.
	You know, that's, you know, the Illuminati, you know, All of Life is a stage.
	It's along those lines.
	I wouldn't get so literal about it.
	It doesn't mean they made the play.
	They didn't make it.
	They don't make the dark side.
	The dark side does what it wants to do.
	They can predict because they've got an AI.
	Throw the AI out, bring in the generals, and you've got a lot of old men trying to make a scenario for the future that may or may not be accurate.
	I don't buy it.
	I don't buy that they know.
	They don't know, and I've talked about this before, but I'll bring up That AI can be influenced in the etheric.
	What does that mean?
	I've written an article about it, but it also harks back to a book by Radu Sinamar, a Romanian journalist who got information from the Romanian secret space program.
	and did experiments on this subject and found that the AIs can be influenced by what we call the etheric level of life, you know, the levels.
	So, just like a human can.
	And also, by the way, it goes both ways.
	We can influence AI, and AI can influence us.
	So never think it's a one-way street, because it isn't.
	And I have told Juan about this, I have warned him about this, and I don't know how seriously they take me or this concept, but they should be.
	If they're not, they should be.
	And they probably are, you know, to give them some credit for intelligence.
	Well, let's hope so.
	You know, because, no, really, because if you know that, then you can't say it's all scripted and figured out.
	Like I said, they have planned a war with China, and they know the next game they play is to go to war with E.T.
	For all you know, when Juan and the thousand people that went down to Antarctica to have a meeting, that's what they were told.
	This is on your, you know, this is on the board next.
	So you're getting into the war with China, it may be a soft war, it may be over Taiwan, or maybe, you know, some subtleties there, it may be ongoing, whatever, but they're going to be the main opponent on the board, so to speak.
	Not Russia, okay?
	Putin You know, I just, I feel that Putin is definitely on the team with Trump.
	I think Trump and Xi are also possibly on the same, but Xi I don't think runs all of China, so that's an interesting part, right?
	China is a very complex topic, yeah.
	So you've got an enemy or a potential enemy and a potential threat friend there.
	You know, you've got some splits in China.
	So it may even be completely wrong to call it one entity.
	And we're not even talking about North and South Korea and all the games being played over there.
	And we're not talking about Japan and their players.
	And, you know, there's so many Indonesia and the gold, the hidden gold, you know, under these islands and various things.
	So and of course, the ET.
	And there's many ETs, not just one.
	So this is what we're talking about.
	We're talking about, no, it's not quite sit back, watch the show, and eat some popcorn.
	I think that that was put out in the beginning because they knew the big points, just like we know the big points, okay, right now.
	They knew, you know, like the milestones because the AI could tell you that much.
	But what happens between those big The polls, you know, going from one poll to the next poll, all the permutations of the game that are going to play out between those and then what happens after that and the fact
	That a lot of times even at least back in the days of looking glass they could not predict with certainty an outcome because there's always these mitigating factors that could one thing like an x-factor could come forward out of nowhere you know and there's probably chaos theory will explain this you know what I'm saying so So that's my answer.
	When you see all these deltas, you know, what do you make of that?
	Like when you see five years later that Q predicted something that happened to the day, I mean, you know, what's your interpretation?
	That's AI, you know.
	I don't give them any credit, you know.
	Q is a, you know, again, a sort of a
	a formulation and it involves one by the way and it involves various others and certain people that are able to take the AI and read what's going on there and bringing in psychics and intuitives and remote viewers and by then you probably get a coalition of you know sort of semi-certainty like I said it's probabilities so maybe 80% chance of whatever x y or z you know
	And so I think those things are definitely coming from an AI.
	I wouldn't try to take any credit for that.
	In other words, I, you know.
	It's not about credit necessarily.
	Maybe they have some super psychic that thinks they know, but they can always be wrong.
	Yeah, I mean, I think it's more kind of pertaining to the overall question we're discussing here is like how much of this has already been mapped out.
	How much of this is all, you know, sort of a scripted movie, a pantomime, a kabuki theater, whatever you want to call it.
	There's certainly a lot of evidence to support that.
	I mean, you know, like even even stuff that wasn't on the cue boards, you know, we see, like you mentioned, Tucker's interview with Putin and all the comms that were in there, how he took his watch off 17 seconds exactly into the interview, how when Biden was Keep this in mind.
	Let me tell you one thing about this kind of thing.
	Go ahead.
	People that talk about that do not seem to talk about the fact that we live in a multiverse in which you have fractals and in which every single... it's kind of the nature of the hologram that you can take a piece of the hologram that contains the whole.
	Do you understand that?
	You know about this?
	Sorry?
	Can you break it down a little bit?
	It's just, well, I thought it was common knowledge.
	It's just common knowledge.
	The, you know, physicists will tell you this.
	It's in the nature, you know, Nassim Harriman kind of goes into this.
	I think that's his name.
	And, you know, he was, I don't agree with everything that he says, but this is true.
	I mean, you know, look at the platonic solids and all this kind of thing.
	Every piece contains the whole, and that's part of the unity of the Megaverse, if you will.
	So with that in mind, it is not so surprising that numbers have the impact they do, but it's also You know, it's like the petals of a flower.
	It's already embedded into the nature of the universe, the multiverse.
	It's simply the way it is.
	We are all, and you could just say it's the nature of God, if you will, if you want to get spiritual about it.
	We're fractals.
	It's like the nature of a diamond.
	The piece reflects the whole, and any given moment contains all the potential moments in it.
	These are general, you know, Eastern philosophies.
	They're also Western, you know, played out by Western investigations, you know, and so on.
	So that's all I can tell you.
	So it's not so surprising to me, knowing that, that the whole you know it's reflected numbers are a number system everything that we've got is a reflection of that and it's in a sense the entire universe or megaverse is um it's it's already you know intelligently designed in that way I see.
	Okay, fair enough.
	I'll leave it at that.
	All right, so let me ask you a couple of more questions, and then we'll kind of wrap this up.
	Looks like we've been going for about an hour and 25 minutes, so hopefully a couple more questions will be all right.
	So I wanted to touch at least a little bit on the whole border situation, because that obviously is getting a lot of attention as well.
	A lot of folks are Kind of.
	Well, I mean, we're waiting to see what's going to happen.
	I mean, first we had the Supreme Court put a stay on this on this law and then a lower court, a lower federal court.
	I think it was last night or the night before in the middle of the night, you know, they issued a stay on it.
	So there's this this big.
	I guess you could say standoff in some ways down there at the border, but what's interesting to me is how it's not just highlighting the whole issue of states' rights, which is very important from a constitutional perspective, but it's also putting the spotlight on the Supreme Court in terms of the degree to which They've been, let's just say, put into submission by the White House.
	And certainly when you look at, you know, the past couple of, let's just say the past year, couple of years, we've seen some very interesting rulings coming out of the Supreme Court.
	I think a lot of things have happened that a lot of folks Never anticipated we were going to see in our lifetime.
	One example would be Roe v. Wade.
	Now, regardless, and I know you have your own views on that, but just to highlight the point that they've been making some some very interesting rulings, not just on that, but also against, you know, the EPA, the Second Amendment.
	And then, of course, we had the unanimous decision that Trump is going to remain on the ballot.
	Stemming from the whole Colorado issue and then of course in April is going to be the big one at least in my mind is going to be the you know the immunity argument and whether or not we're going to see the trial go forward and all that so I think in a lot of ways this whole border situation is kind of you know like wrapping in you know this this other topic here or the overlay of the of the Supreme Court and how they're going to rule And how they've been ruling.
	And ultimately, certainly, you know, there's still that looming question about the 2020 election, which we've been talking about.
	Some people are really still talking about the Brunson case.
	I mean, me personally, I've kind of sort of moved on from that at this point.
	I mean, if it happens, great, but I don't have an enormous amount of faith that we're going to see any movement in that direction.
	I could be wrong.
	I hope I am.
	But I'm very curious to hear what are your thoughts on the This kind of, first of all, the legal drama over the border and the role of the Supreme Court and really the broader context, I guess you could say, of, you know, what we've really been talking about tonight, you know, in terms of how fluid this plan is and, you know, how much of it has already been sort of, you know, gamed out and to what extent the border is playing, you know, a role in whatever is coming.
	Because it seems to be, I think you and I are pretty well in agreement that we're going to have some sort of a major event.
	We just don't know exactly what it's going to look like, what exactly is going to be the flavor and texture of it, but there's a lot of consciousness being directed at the border right now.
	And certainly the Supreme Court is weighed in.
	So I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that.
	And then, you know, we can kind of wrap it up after that.
	I know you wanted to maybe say a couple of things about the chemtrail issue as well.
	But then we can, you know, we can sort of wind it down at that point.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, I think I touched on the border already in our discussion.
	So I'm not sure where else I can go with it.
	You know, I sort of see the border a little differently than you are.
	You seem to think that the border issue is really a Supreme, a court issue, right?
	Well, not necessarily, but they're playing a role.
	Yeah, I know, but I think that ultimately, in a sense, it's already happened, okay?
	We already have, I don't know what the number is, something 22 million who have come in through the border.
	So in a sense, that border thing is is if like if you were orchestrating something you would know that it's already happened it's done it's they're in here now the question is what trump does to reverse that and how that can be reversed and what it might mean for everyday americans who are going to have these people in a sense showing up their doorstep a scenario that one did talk about a while ago so
	I don't see the fight in the courts as reaching any crescendo before Trump gets back in office, if you will.
	I don't see some big grandstanding on that score.
	Now, I'm not trying to see the future there necessarily.
	I think because it's a done deal.
	So the only thing the court can do is tell them to leave, right?
	I mean, let's get down to the nitty gritty.
	That's the bottom line.
	And that would require a roundup with sheriffs and all kinds of people.
	law enforcement and a whole reversal and I don't see that reversal happening on as long as Biden or the Biden show which I call it is in office okay ostensibly until it's shot down You can't have, you know, probably rulings that are going to benefit the border situation in the substantial way that it would have to be dealt with.
	And then there is that other side of it which has to do with the X-Men and what I've been saying is the Alien-human hybrid experimentation that was done especially south of the border.
	It also happened north of the border in in America and other places around the world, but that is a real issue the x-men scenario is real and it will become more real as time goes on so i don't see the border i mean i know there are standoffs going on in the border and i think there's some a lot of it looks like it's aged to be honest with you yeah and i well i just think that you know
	um abbott i think he was taking you know a photo op i I mean, whatever you want to call it.
	I mean, I don't, I think that the border has happened.
	It's too late.
	It's too little too late at this point.
	It's not going to change the outcome.
	They're either, okay, then you have to think, well, the only area where there could be a court ruling that would affect the border Let's say before the election, so-called election, would be when they stop those illegals from voting.
	But it does appear from all, at least the things I'm reading, that it looks like those people, or a good portion of them, part of the reason they came here, at least the non-combatants, was simply to vote.
	Nothing more.
	And so once they do their duty, so to speak, who knows what's going to happen to them, right?
	And so you could get diabolical about the whole thing.
	It is insane.
	But that's a thing that could be stopped by the courts or by the Supreme Court taking over state And walking on states' rights, they'd have to.
	And you know, I don't like this whole states' rights thing, okay?
	I think it's very deceptive.
	And I think that giving the power to the states over the federal government Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	State of the Union in a very real way.
	And this is only one area of that.
	But aside from that.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	So you don't think that Texas should be able to defend their own territory?
	No, that's not what I mean.
	What I mean is, in other words, states can make unilateral decisions about their borders.
	That's not actually what I'm saying.
	What I'm saying is that the things that affect all of us are things that have to be dealt with on sort of the union level as opposed to individual states.
	You know, there's going to be rulings eventually that are going to have to deal with all the humans, you know, all the ones that are dispersed throughout the United States, not just some pockets of, you know, taking over their, you know, taking back their land, throwing the, you know, because you throw the so-called illegals out of your state.
	Do they go to the next state?
	Do they go back to Mexico?
	Do you have the wherewithal to even make that happen?
	If the SARA is real and I do believe it is, you believe it is.
	Yeah.
	I see.
	I'm not a huge fan of that at all.
	I, I kind of side with Juan on that.
	I think there may be a version of that, but having known Paladin and having talked with him and had shows on this years ago, okay?
	On the G, you know, the, what do they call it, the Global Financial System, whatever.
	You know, I don't, I, you know, I don't think, these people that are hanging on the edge of their seat for debt forgiveness, that's, you know, seems to be the biggest thing.
	You know, I just, I mean, yeah, great.
	Look, if Trump gets, What?
	I said you're entitled to your viewpoint.
	I'm not going to... No, of course, you know, what I'm trying to say is that it's kind of, you know, it's like med bets, okay?
	It's a philosophy.
	If you do not get that we are being taken over, you know, it's kind of like, I don't know, dreaming of sugar and candy when you're being fed You know bugs.
	I mean you don't it's not helpful to the version of reality that we're in as far as I'm concerned.
	People that are so hung up on this idea of debt forgiveness and money and you know money showing up at their door and med beds showing up at their door and oh they're going to be you know healed.
	How can you have that in the midst of the most diabolical plan to eliminate you that has, you know, ever played itself out on planet Earth.
	It's here, it's now, and it hasn't gone away.
	They haven't been beaten, their plans are still real, and we're going to have to have a war to stop them.
	That's clear, okay?
	Humanity has not reached freedom, okay?
	And without that, we are not going to, you know, they're not going to try to heal you, bling, in med beds when they are trying to kill you at the same exact time.
	It's not logical.
	So you think we're basically being herded into yet another series of wars, and that at the end of all this it's basically... I believe these are good wars.
	These are real wars for the freedom of humanity, not just the freedom of one individual so-called country.
	We're talking about the end game in terms of Humans take back our sovereignty here on this planet, or we don't.
	And if we don't, we're going to be shuttled off to FEMA camps and all the nonsense.
	I mean, people that are fantasizing about Jussara, Gussara, whatever, I think they have their eyes on the wrong ball.
	You know, we need to defend our country, our rights, our, you know, what's going forward in the face of the biggest threat to humanity ever, which is to eliminate you.
	Clear and simple.
	And start fantasizing about money showing up at your door and med beds in the midst of that is, you know, that's a sales job in spades as far as I'm concerned.
	That's my point of view.
	That's fine.
	That's totally fine.
	The reason I ask, though, is because I know that, you know, you're keenly aware of, you know, the history of the Kennedys and so forth.
	And a big reason that JFK was killed, or at least they attempted to kill him, was because he was attempting to put us back on the gold standard.
	But so was Trump.
	I mean, Trump will do that.
	You know, that is the point.
	Yes.
	I'm not saying it doesn't exist.
	But it doesn't exist in the way in which people think about it, number one.
	And we have a lot of battles to fight on the way to that goal, of a goal that has to do with a real QFS, if you want to call it that, and to revamp.
	And by the way, at the end of that road or somewhere near the end, we're going to have to contend with aliens because they want to control us on that level.
	So, you know, I'm sorry, you know, to throw some damper on the situation.
	It's okay.
	I mean, it's important to have the long view of what we're dealing with as humanity.
	If we deceive ourselves and we are weak and we are waiting for somebody to pat us on the head and give us a little, you know, stack of money or whatever this type of thing is, you know, it's not going to change this prison planet when you have this preoccupation It's not over yet.
	It's definitely not over yet.
	We're still in the midst of it.
	And I understand people are in desperate straits.
	I'm not saying they aren't.
	I think it's about dissolving the fiat debt prison that the cabal had set up.
	It's all part of it.
	But it's a huge battle to be had.
	You know, it's not over yet.
	It's definitely not over yet.
	We're still in the midst of it.
	So I just think, you know, talking about it, you know.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I asked, and you gave me your response, and I would expect nothing less from you, Carrie.
	All right, so let's kind of wind this down a little.
	Did you want to talk about the chemtrails, or do you want to save that for next year?
	Well, in the context of what we're saying here with states' rights and so on, so we have a state, I don't even have the name of the state in front of me, South Carolina somewhere,
	They ruled that they had a ruling just like yesterday it's in the news I put it on my telegram so you can see the article and I did write some comments there already so people can read my comments but I just wanted to you know sort of bring that to the fore and bring people's attention to that because I have been studying the chemtrails interviewing people about the chemtrails what's in them for At least 15 years.
	And so I can tell you that I have already known about the dome that is over the United States and arguably certain other parts of the world that the chemtrails are contributing to to highlight incoming craft into this dimension.
	Alien craft, okay?
	And that that is the good side of what they're trying to do and that Juan even came on a show, I don't know, a couple years ago and talked about this and his knowledge on that was correct in my view.
	It's exactly what I had also been told by whistleblowers and also through my own psychic intuition.
	Now, there are poisons in the chemtrails, no doubt, and there is nanographene oxide, by the way, which they had prepared us with for 10 years before they ever made you shoot it up into your veins.
	So, it's in our groundwater, it's in our food, it's in our medicine, it's in our water, it's, you know, everything.
	In our clothing.
	So, this stuff, you know, it's like It's kind of like the way humans have started out with a lot of technology in general.
	As an answer, you know, like a military answer to a problem, they bring out the most negative side of it.
	It's like, same thing with phones, you know, your cell phone could have had vibrational frequencies that were healthy for you, but instead they chose the least healthy.
	You know, this is a syndrome with especially what is in essence the secret space program or programs on planet Earth.
	A lot of times, maybe the easy way, the fast way, is the most diabolical way.
	And you do end up eliminating and killing a certain number of humans when you do any of these choices.
	That's what they've been doing.
	So all I wanted to say about that is that this one state again, it, you know, see these states rights and one state and all this even going into your own private Idaho and getting all your supplies in the face of all these things.
	It's a mentality that has to do with, I'm going to survive even though, you know, fuck everyone else.
	So basically that state thinks they're going to take control of something that is, if you can envision it, a dome over the United States to prevent and to help the military to spot the incoming invaders and do something about it, by the way.
	And that one state, you know, is not going to be allowed by the Union, by the secret space program that arguably, by the way, is running this surface earth, to put a hole, if you will, in the dome.
	Logically, you can certainly understand that.
	Now what they may do, you know, they do workarounds.
	They could have, you know, let that state have the lower earth orbit where they don't see the chemtrails anymore and they just raise them up higher above low earth orbit.
	You don't even know they're there.
	But they, I'm just telling you, these decisions that affect all of us, Every single human on United States soil are going to have to be group decisions.
	All the states have to weigh in.
	There's a unity consciousness that is also coming to the fore in the midst of all of what we're part of, right?
	So it's not just that, oh, we're going to war with this one and that one and so on.
	What it is, is a gradual, you could call it a ladder of awakening in which we are dealing with all these levels and we are going to have a group consciousness that is
	God consciousness if you will it's going to include others and all the others the things we call others right and right now you know if you're an American you call you know the Chinese the others and you call this one the others and so on so forth but in the reality is that we're not just all one here in the United States are all one here on the planet we're also all one As part of the consciousness of God.
	And so breaking down some of those mental barriers that you've been taught since you were a child is all part of this awakening process.
	Oh, I agree.
	I agree.
	The one thing I will say, though, about states' rights, just to kind of, you know, to have a counterbalance to what you're saying, is that, yes, I agree that certain decisions have to be made collectively.
	But I think what we've seen develop over the past several, even, you know, decades at this point, with states trying more and more to assert their authority as a direct response to a rogue federal government that's completely- No doubt.
	And I wish they had done a better job.
	So, you know, that's that's also part of it, part of that equation as well.
	But, yeah, I mean, I certainly I get what you're saying there, you know, about certain issues being, you know, too big to just be centralized over, you know, to be decided by one state over another.
	But I think that, you know, there's.
	Well, I could go on, but you know what?
	I'm going to put a pin in it for now because I don't want to end up on for another half an hour with you and monopolizing any more than I already have, Kerry.
	So I really do appreciate you coming on.
	Always an interesting discussion.
	Fascinating, really, to hear your perspective on things.
	You're so You have an incredible, incredible basis of knowledge, and I love to pick your brain, and I just love to throw things out there to challenge you as well, because I think you appreciate it.
	That's your style, and I think you know it's coming from a good place.
	I just wanted to mention, because it suddenly came back to me, and we were talking about Melania earlier, and I said, I think I said something like she was Romanian.
	I think what I meant to say was that I heard that she was from the Romanov, like that royal dynasty.
	That's Russia.
	Yeah, it didn't occur to me until later on in the show, so I apologize for that.
	I just wanted to correct that.
	So, okay, Carrie, any final thoughts you want to leave us with before we part ways today?
	Until the next time?
	No, I think I've covered a huge amount of stuff and I hope it resonates to some degree with the audience.
	If nothing else, I hope it makes them question maybe some of the narratives they're hearing out there.
	Indeed.
	Indeed.
	Absolutely.
	We had quite an audience, so thank you everybody out there for tuning in.
	Kerry and I both really appreciate that.
	And we are going to go ahead and end this live stream now, so thank you everybody for listening.
	I will be back soon with another report.
	Actually, I'm going to have our mutual friend Brad Olson is going to be joining me on Saturday for an update, so I'm really looking forward to that.
	So thank you everybody once again for tuning in.
	God bless and God speed.

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