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Feb. 11, 2024 - Project Camelot
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NINO RODRIGUEZ AND KERRY: JUAN IN ANTARCTICA : SECRET SPACE
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Thank you.
Thank you.
We're recording right now.
Folks, welcome to Dino's Corner.
I'm joined once again with Keri Cassidy.
It's been a little bit, Keri.
I haven't seen you in a while.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
It's a little early in the morning for me, so I'm trying to keep my eyes open here because it just takes me a while to actually wake up in the morning and everything, but... I like to get all my podcasts done early in the morning.
I know.
So, okay, so, you know, it's no secret, you know, I'm not allowed to say, but it's pretty obvious where Juanita has been.
Really cold down there.
You know, and, you know, so I, you know, you know, a lot of, a lot of important people, a lot of people go down to Antarctica to, there's, you know, from what I understand, breakaway civilizations.
I know you're going to want to elaborate on that and talk about this and, you know, tell the folks what you know, which I'll let you have the floor, which you do so well.
So, Harry, without further ado, take it from here.
Okay, well, it's an interesting timing, first of all, because we have the Tucker-Putin conversation that's worldwide.
At the same time, I guess, if I got it correctly, about a month ago, Obama went down there.
And now one is going down there.
So what the hell is going on?
You know what I'm saying?
This is interesting.
And I don't know if you, I think you did pick up on it when Putin was asked about Biden.
He, you know, several times by Tucker, he clearly was trying to convey that he doesn't talk to the man at all and I have heard a leaked recording that said of a conversation he had with him the last time he ever talked to him it was a transcript that was leaked supposedly where Putin says you're not president of anything and that was like two years ago or something so
Now we fast forward to here we are and I have to look at what's going on down there.
Now I tried to hit up one of my top sources on this and they wouldn't say anything about it which is now I know this source has been there.
By the way this is the Robert Herr I mean, tell me if that's not a handler.
A Chinese handler.
This is Robert Herr.
I mean, this is a guy that's... Who's handling who?
Well, you know, Biden's saying that he had the classified documents and his faculties are not all there.
I mean, it just shows... it's pretty much in your face.
Yeah, so they're moving Biden off the stage, so to speak, even though he's already an actor, and going to bring the next thing on, whatever that's going to be, or at least attempt to.
We are coming up to an election, and here we have one going down there.
Now, a lot of people don't know this, but I think his name was Fletcher Prouty back in the day, because I've been tracking this, actually went down to Antarctica I think it was prior to the John F. Kennedy election, way back in the day.
So when you start looking at the pattern, it's very interesting.
What it appears to me is that they're taking orders.
They're going down to get their orders.
person i talked to said but they could do that in person they can teleport themselves anywhere these people down there okay which it does involve it has to involve our secret space program having a base at this point at this late date way later than new new what we know of as new berlin new schwaben land the nazis established a base down there during world war ii in case you don't know and the world doesn't know and that involved a preparation
It's a Nazi hub.
Well, it has been, and we even had an escapee from New Berlin, supposedly.
Whether you want to say it was fake or real, it was very interesting because, well, I'll get into that in a second, but what happens is You've got a race from Aldebaran that helped the Nazis get the technology to do all kinds of things, even during and prior to World War II.
And then what happens is they were told, you're not allowed to win this war.
You're going to have to wait.
And fast forward to now, and here we are in war again.
And if you don't understand that, or you didn't understand it before the discussion between Tucker, And Putin, then you don't know what's going on.
You know, you're not listening.
Putin made it clear that we're fighting Nazism again.
Okay, so here we are again.
We're in a war.
We're about to enter an even more escalated war, as you may know that.
They're looking to go down to, I think it's called Rafa.
in the southern part of Gaza, that the Israelis are now planning to bomb a million people that are in a tight-knit, small area.
And they've already started bombing it.
But they're basically going to do an incredible onslaught.
And they're going to kill, they'll kill all these people.
You're looking at an even greater genocide than has already happened.
So that's right here.
They're going to have estimated a million people, is what you're saying.
Yeah, there's over a million people.
and they're mostly women and children.
And the international community is weighing in saying, oh please don't do that, we need to talk, all this kind of nonsense.
But they never do anything to stop these people.
So the bottom line is they're taking the country away from the Palestinians.
They're taking the land.
So it's a land grab.
Now, on top of a genocide.
Those people are pushed up against the south of Gaza.
The next stop is Egypt.
So they're going to have to cross the border into Egypt by force.
And the other thing they could do is give them a piece of land of equivalent size somewhere on the planet where there's plenty of open land.
You have to realize even in the United States we have land.
When you fly over, I don't know how often you fly around, I fly around a lot and I can tell you There is massive amounts of empty, unused land on this planet.
So the idea that the Palestinians have to be massacred in order to move them is not true.
If the choice is between death and basically moving to another piece of land where the women and children will be safe, Then the choice is obvious as far as I'm concerned, okay?
Now Netanyahu is currently hinting at that, saying we're going to let them get out, but he doesn't tell you where they're going to go, and Egypt doesn't want them right on in their country.
They actually don't want that burden.
They may end up with it, but that's, I'm just, and I don't know how hospitable the piece of land they would move into.
I don't think it's, I think it's a desert.
So there's other places.
Kazakhstan, for example.
There's Turkmenistan.
There's all different places that have huge areas that the international community could arrange to move.
They move the Israeli people into Israel.
They can certainly move the Palestinians somewhere.
to keep them alive.
You don't have to kill them all.
These people are butchers.
They're butchers.
They've turned into monsters.
Why they've turned into monsters, if that was always the plan it appears to be, I don't know.
Now I know I digressed slightly.
So getting back to Antarctica, we're looking at a situation where people are going down there.
Now I can tell you that it is known to be Atlantis, under the ice, is actually all of the ruins and a lot of what used to be Atlantis.
And Atlantis is the last place that humans walked on the surface of the Earth in some semblance of peace with so-called aliens, which means, and Juan likes to say, okay, now he's saying, well, there's an inner Earth people, but he doesn't want to say they come from off Why?
I have no idea.
What his big resistance...
We have humanoids and humanoid species throughout the galaxies.
Many of us go back to a place called Lyra.
We are all related in some form or fashion.
I think because Juan still refers a lot to the Bible and he's...
And that's why he always talks to people that are sort of hyper-religious, okay?
confuse anybody with off alien or off world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's why he always talks to people that are sort of hyper-religious, okay?
But religion is not spirituality.
That's really what it is.
Okay, religion and spirituality are two different things.
One is a forced, you know, by rote learning that you just repeat.
It's basically mind control.
The other is freedom of spirituality, of understanding the universe in multiple ways and reaching Source, God, the Force, I don't care what you call it.
But it's not an old man with a beard.
Sitting on a cloud, okay?
Telling you to do this, do that.
Yes, I like you.
Yes, I like the United States better than Russia.
All this nonsense.
It's nonsense, okay?
But he's pushing this scenario.
Why?
Because he wants to win an election.
Not because he's that stupid.
He's not.
I really don't think he is.
I think he's smarter than that.
But he wants to win an election.
And what do you need?
You need the far right.
You're religious, right?
And so this is how you get them, especially the minds that haven't really matured very far.
All right, so done with that little segment.
Now, to get back to that, these people are going down to Antarctica.
If they could get their orders anyway without going in person, why do they go in person?
What's really going on when they go down there?
Is Juan going to come back as Juan?
Or is he going to be a, you know, a clone of Juan?
I mean, what the hell is going to go on there?
Because I don't trust any of these people, okay?
Now, I think he's going to be okay, as I, you know, I've been communicating behind the scenes with you, but I am concerned that he's going down there.
Now, I do believe that it's very possible that our Secret Space Program, as it currently exists both underground, undersea, off-planet, in colonies, and in Antarctica, Now, my whistleblowers have said Antarctica is the least surveilled area of the planet, whereas everywhere is surveilled.
That's at least what they say.
Okay, so that's one of the reasons why they would want to go down there.
However, It's a bit strange that they feel they have to go down there now, okay?
Why is he down there?
Just because, you know, he doesn't have to be like the same thing that Obama does.
He went down there for a reason.
He's not down there like the way Obama goes.
Yeah, but it's insane.
So he's not revealing.
He's hinting.
What Juan is doing is hinting.
If you listen to the latest people he's talking to, he's talking about going down south.
He is hinting that there are puppet masters down there.
Now, who are they?
Okay, they probably are a combination.
I know, I believe that insectoids that we battle, by the way, on Mars, if you listen to Randy Kramer, insectoids may have a base down there.
We're talking about, again, the beings from Maldebaran that look humanoid but have a large reptilian sort of portion to them.
Now, one of the things about reptilians, and this is what a whistleblower told me, If you go down into their presence, you have to bow.
Even a super soldier told me that he bowed to these people.
They think they're royalty.
They look at themselves like royalty, right?
Beyond that, they think they're superior to humans, okay?
And they also think they're in charge of humans.
They think they're in charge of Earth.
This is the thing, the battle we're fighting, okay?
So we think of it as Nazism, but in reality, It's actually a combination of totalitarianism, which was Russia but isn't anymore, supposedly, and the Nazis, okay?
Which is why the beings from Moldebaran, it's hierarchical, okay?
What that means is that It's not even just royalty, it's almost a military hierarchy, you understand?
Where you obey orders, you don't question orders, you do what you're told.
So we've got people that are going down there paying homage of some sort, getting some sort of instructions that can't be given even by teleportation or telephone for that matter, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, what the hell?
Why do you think Juan is down there?
Well, I think, first of all, I think it's a statement because he could have kept it secret.
You know, at the beginning, I thought, and I think you thought, he wasn't going to publish the fact that he was down there.
I think this is just hypothetical.
I think perhaps he realized that he would be a lot safer if he was more public about the fact that he was down there.
So he didn't just disappear.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, these things are possible.
He's letting people know where a lot of the control is.
He's giving hints to that.
Yes.
In acting, you call it indicating.
When you show rather than tell, you're indicating what's really happening.
And then in some places, you can actually tell them certain things that will make them think along the lines you want them to go.
So he's trying to break the ice.
What my Project Camelot has been doing for the last 19 years, he is now starting to try to do.
He even did it back in the day when he talked to Hagman and Hagman, by the way, in case you're not familiar with those days.
I remember that, yeah.
Yeah, I remember that.
So he used to talk more about things like secret space, aliens, various space travel.
You know, he is a hugely, he identifies totally with Tesla.
Yeah, and he was very close with Cooper.
Yes, so the point I'm trying to make is that he is a big fan of the Secret Space Program, but he's also trying to protect it.
He's trying to take people off the scent all the time.
That's why he won't let me talk, okay?
He won't talk to me directly.
So we're talking about a situation in which He's going down there to get his instructions, to get some kind of knowledge.
Maybe he needs to see these beings in person to believe they're real.
You know what I'm saying?
Where would you go, right?
What makes you think he hasn't seen them?
What?
What makes you think he hasn't seen them before?
I would imagine he's seen some of them, but again, we have to ask ourselves, this is the thing, why is he going in person?
It's a big trip, it's a big hassle.
It's a tiring trip, yeah.
It's, you know, and why, again, it's the timing.
Obama went there, now he's going there, okay?
Now, for people that don't know, that he is like the right hand of Trump.
But Obama went there to take orders.
He went there to take orders.
Juan's not going there to take any orders.
You don't know.
Okay, I'm sorry to say you don't know that.
Okay, I'm assuming we like to think that he's not.
Okay, we also like to think he's not going down to bow down to some, you know, fucking reptilians.
But the reality is that when you're dealing with a planet like ours that has been invaded by so many different species, there are reasons why you do things in public, there are reasons why you do things in private, right?
And he even says, he says like I was just saying, Antarctica is one of the most secret areas where you can do things where other humans cannot come, okay?
They don't let the press in parts of Antarctica.
I mean, the real war is with Antarctica, from what I understand.
Like, it's getting shelled constantly.
There's earthquakes down there constantly.
I mean, the real battle is with Antarctica.
Uh, I, you know, I would say there could be... All roads lead there.
There could be, yes, there's a concentration there, there's a focus there, but it's not, I don't think it's a war in the conventional sense like it was with Admiral Byrd, okay?
I think that was a real war, okay, with shoot-em-up guns, that, You've got to understand, our tech, even a nuclear incident, is going to be nothing to do with nuclear, okay?
Our real tech is way beyond that.
It's plasma beam weapons, it's particle beam weapons, it's guns, lightsabers, these kinds of things.
From what I understand, from what Juanito told me, he said that whatever event happens, they want so badly, and it makes a lot of sense, to blame on the weather or climate change.
Look for some kind of Lahaina incident to happen again or some kind of earthquake in the West Coast is what we should all be kind of focusing on because That's looks like the move that they want to play is some kind of earthquake on the West Coast from Seattle down to California massive or some kind of Lahaina type wildfire, you know new weapon system You know what?
It doesn't matter.
It's not going to change it.
I just wrote an article.
I'm talking about it's not going to be one thing.
It's not going to be, you know, one like, okay, Lahaina happened, right?
People were blown away.
That's just like once they do something like that, It's just, you know, repetitive.
It doesn't have the same impact.
Sure, earthquakes.
We just had an earthquake.
I was in it, you know, but and they are there are lots and lots of aftershocks coming in the Baja California area.
So I've been watching that.
But the thing is that I don't, I think that there is going to be major something.
And now in my article, I cite the Richard Allen Miller physicist, where he said in late March, early April, there was going to be a major event.
There are other people.
There are Dick Allgaier, an expert remote viewer, and his team called Future Forecasting Group.
Yeah, I've had him on the show, Dick Allgaier, the remote viewer.
Yes, you have.
Yes, and I've interviewed him too in the past, okay?
Although lately he's sort of avoiding being interviewed by me, which a lot of people are because they don't want to tell the truth.
But the thing is, no, seriously, because you have to look at this a little bit more in a more expanded view.
They're not going to just do one thing.
They're going to do many things, and they're going to do them as simultaneously as they can in order to derail the election, because they don't have a player.
They don't have no one to present, okay?
And their gig is up.
Yeah, their gig's up, but they are going to try to maneuver Newsom.
I know this, and maybe even Mitchell.
Hold on.
You know as well as I do, if they can't achieve this, they're going to pull the plug.
They're going to do something big.
And it's coming.
So I think that's going to be the move.
but it's a little difficult.
Hold on.
You know as well as I do, if they can't achieve this, they're going to pull the plug.
They're going to do something big.
And it's coming.
So I think that's going to be the move.
So what is it going to be?
What is it going to be?
I think they're getting ready to.
Why haven't they brought him forward yet?
You have to look at that. - I think they're getting ready to.
I think they're getting that. - Yeah, okay.
And we think all of this is gonna happen.
I can tell you that Newsom's dead and the person that's gonna play him is probably a clone.
But yeah, this is what we're dealing with, okay?
So we're dealing with a future that is rather unknowable, but there are things we do know about it.
One of the things that's very clear is that AI is very instrumental in not only watching the planet, but running it.
And this is what they don't talk about, okay?
Now, even Juan has said this.
He said, I don't know, I guess he's saying this election, but this election, I don't think it's even gonna happen, but let's say this election happens, will be the last election in which humans are involved.
It's gonna be all AI from then on.
So, and you can't stop this trend, okay?
And I just did a really important interview with this scientist, his name is Scott Perez, who outlines how we are actually AI, artificially created.
By beings beyond us, okay?
Whoever those beings are.
In my world, I'd call them aliens.
You can call them whatever the fuck you want.
This is what they're looking at as scientists.
They're looking at, they can actually mix and match and change our DNA.
And you know the whole, all that's coming out right now about the satanic merging, where you've got Mike, okay?
They wanted to run Mike instead of, you know, not Obama, but Mike.
So Mike is a man.
What?
Big Mike.
Yeah.
So Big Mike, why is Big Mike actually Mike?
Why is he pretending to be a woman but actually a man?
So why is Taylor Swift pretending to be a woman but actually a man?
That's what's coming out now.
I guess you know this, right?
I think she's a woman.
Okay, fine.
But her father...
is one of the biggest satanists on the planet.
Now this is not going to be accidental, okay?
Whatever she is, and I don't care personally, but what I do know is in according to the sort of mythology, if you will, of the Illuminati, They are totally materialists, meaning they want to manifest things materially in this material world, and that takes precedence for them over, let's say, spirituality or anything like that, okay?
Love of God, if you want to call it that, whatever.
So for them, They are doing the union of the light and the dark in one being.
That's why they do this with the sexuality.
They are trying to put the two into one.
Now that's actually a Christian principle.
That's Christ.
Christ said, make the two one.
What was he talking about?
They are literalists, so they take those words to mean Marriage.
Take the male and the female, make them one being, not like the union of two beautiful beings.
Yeah.
So you need to see it's I think in order to understand what's coming, you need to decipher the language so.
Start to break it down.
Start to get away from, you know, the horror of it, because there's a lot of horror, right?
So when you think about, when you think about Satanism and you think about what they're doing, you are horrified.
But if you start to understand what it means to them, and of course Juan stresses this as well, but he doesn't actually, you know, Hit the nail on the head.
They don't look at it as evil.
They don't see it that way.
It's just a different perspective.
They're indifferent.
Look, if Christ and their, you know, whatever Lucifer, whoever that, you know, fucking, sorry, that being is supposed to be, You know, who's going to be William?
You know, Prince Charles is dead.
Now he supposedly has cancer.
This is a double.
He's basically going to die before the world, just like the Queen was killed before she was dead, you know, seen to be dead in a hearse and carried along.
In other words, this is what they do to deceive, to continue their parade of basically the union of opposites.
They want to control the union of opposites.
They play both sides.
Try to wrap your mind around this and understand what they're conveying and what the way they think of it, okay?
And if they think that humans They are like just material, okay?
You just take this piece of mud, and you take this piece of mud, and you bang it together, or you slice it and dice it any way which way you can, and so on and so forth.
It's only energy.
They are materialists.
They take the concept of us being energy, and they basically treat it as materialist.
What's your thoughts on Elon?
I mean, Elon's getting ready to make a chip that... Yeah, I mean, that's why in a sense, this manipulation of the humans... I just gave you this thing that William Tompkins, it's a whole spread, right?
And in the center of it, I'm going to actually share my screen and show you what, you know, what I was talking about.
I think it's worthwhile to do this, so let me see if I can... So if you look at the center of this diagram, I just put it on my telegram for people that want to go look at it.
Anyway, you'll see it says, transition from a terrestrial to a solar species.
That is the secret space program in a nutshell, okay?
Both good and bad humans, by the way, want this, okay?
Why do they want this?
Because they don't want to be colonized by another species with the same idea, okay, of taking over, expanding, colonizing other planets.
So they don't want to be on the bottom rung when we're visited, as we already have been.
So we're already on the on a lower rung with the reptilian species, the Draco, the Greys, other species that have lived, you know, if you want to call lived, have been in existence longer than us.
Centuries and centuries, eons and eons, more knowledge, more technology than us.
So what is the Secret Space Program, where they're based down in Antarctica, what is the good guys even trying to do?
The same thing.
Understand, it is all a competition to get on top from their perspective.
So who's going to lead this charge of the transhumanist agenda?
It will be Elon.
Yeah.
Oh, he's definitely one of the leaders of it.
Yeah, no doubt.
I mean, he's bought into it.
He's already a cyborg.
I know that.
I'm convinced of that.
He is his own experiment.
What gave him away to me was the Baphomet costume in his profile picture, right?
I guess we see you coming.
There you go.
See, why?
Because Satan Lucifer, Satan, wants to be equal to God.
He doesn't want to be part of God, he wants to be equal.
He wants to challenge God.
So that's what they do, right?
So that's why the suit, that's the philosophy.
You have to understand.
So they need this transgender to come in first before they can move us into the transhumanism.
Why?
Because again, the union, the two make the two one.
And that's in the Gospel of Thomas.
You can go read it.
There's actually a modern translation of it that's making the rounds.
It literally says that very, very simply.
And it also says, by the way, You know, I read the Bible when I was 12.
I don't think I read it since then.
But anyway, one of the things it says is that in the Gospel of Thomas that they rewrote and there's a retranslation.
They're sending it around.
The last thing it says is, send me their Christ, the way they wrote Christ, is saying, send me your women and I will turn them into men.
It literally says that.
Now, what did he mean?
He didn't mean literally, OK?
People do not understand.
Everything is symbols.
Everything is symbology.
So when we say you're going to make a woman like man, when was that written?
Think about it.
Back in the day when women were actually very much not the equals of men, okay?
So they were subservient.
So when he said, I'm going to make a woman into a man, what he meant is she's going to be equal.
They didn't get it.
They don't get the messages.
They twist them.
That's why I have such an issue with the Christian religion and the Bible and so on.
And the priests in the Catholic Church, who are all a part of the reptilian Draco lineage, are basically, again, they're trying to capture your mind by limiting your understanding of what's really being said, even by Christ.
Okay?
So, What can we say?
We have to look at their actions.
So their actions are going to basically support their belief system.
And this is what's happening down in... Now the trouble, as I see it, with even the White Hats, is everything they do is trying to be the opposite of the black hats.
But in doing so, as I have said, as the battle gets closer and closer, they get closer and closer and they start doing the exact same thing.
So what do we have?
Obama Just a symbol, but nonetheless sort of the leader, the henchman, man behind Biden, going down to Antarctica.
And now we have one who is arguably the right-hand man of Trump, if you believe that he's JFK Jr., going down for our side, okay?
This is what's happening, okay?
And you guys, you know, people want to dream other dreams and whatnot.
Go right ahead.
No one forces you to understand this.
But I'm laying it on the line, okay?
No one out there will do that.
No one understands this, okay?
Do you understand what I'm saying?
No one would say this to you.
That's why I'm having you on.
That's why I'm having you on.
Because if you don't study the enemy, how can you successfully fight it?
Putin is so wily.
Putin knows everything I'm saying.
He knows it all.
Okay, he's clearly very involved in the secret space program in his country and with this underground is working with us.
That's why they went into the bio labs.
They didn't, by the way, just go into the bio labs.
to take them out of Ukraine.
So let me ask you a question.
Wait just one second, but they took them by maglev.
They would have taken all of their test tubes and all this experimentation into the secret space program on their side.
They're not going to throw away good science, okay?
I don't care how demented it is.
This is how these people think, okay?
They're all about a battle to run the world.
That's all.
And Trump knows this very, very well.
So let me ask you this.
If the Nazis are basically, they have a foothold in Antarctica and they're running stuff, right?
We can agree on that.
What's the Jewish role in this?
What's their role in this war?
You see, these groups are not necessarily at peace with each other off-planet either.
So what we're talking about, again, I've said this many times, and I'll say it many more if necessary, but no one... There's a lot of people who say... The Anunnaki are running the Jews.
They are partially Reptilians as well.
So the Anunnaki run the Jews, who runs the Nazis?
In a sense they're the same animal, they're the same being, they're the same, it's a unity.
The Khazarians, the Jews, this whole, you know, Play, I guess battle play, whatever you want to call it.
It's all about ruling the world and doing it from a unity of both sides, the light and the dark.
So, sadly, it's not the Jews that really, that are really probably just religious Jews that don't, you know, know any better, so to speak.
But one of the things you can know about the Jewish... Well, let me say this real quick.
I've had people call, you know, email me and say, what is Juan talking about?
Nazis aren't the ones.
It's the Jews running everything.
What do you say to that?
But they're the two sides of the same coin.
They're the same thing.
Now, I don't know what the internal dialogue is between, let's say, the Anunnaki, who run Israel, and The beings from Moldebaran who run Germany, but there appears to be some kind of issue that's slowly getting merged together, okay?
And it really came together in Ukraine because the Ukrainians became Nazis, but they're all at root Khazarians, and Khazarians are bloodlust worshipers.
Now, behind the Jewish religion is a vindictive God.
You start there.
Do you understand that a vindictive God is not a God?
That's just a person that wants you to worship and bow at your feet.
Kind of like an alien overlord type thing?
Yes.
So, you know, you have to part the gibberish and see behind the lies, and look at how they behave, and look at how they think.
What does the message that you know?
What's the point of fighting if they control both sides, Carrie?
Yes.
Well, to some degree, but they don't.
OK, so this is the thing.
What is the unique thing that Juan and the White Hats have that certain people out there who think they know a lot don't get?
There are humans with good hearts.
There are humans that are capable of change.
There are humans that even grew up at the feet of the Illuminati who saw through the ruse and the hatred and the bloodlust and don't have that.
May have even been infiltrated not to have that.
You know what I'm saying?
In other words, what we're talking about is a A sort of ages going back, running the planet through certain races, and now this is a revolution against them.
And it can only happen with humans with true hearts and love for each other, Source, the multiverse, etc.
In other words, love runs through all of it.
Like this third party system, this third party going against the entire system that controls both sides.
There's effort controllable on both sides.
That has been going down in history.
We're in a different place, you know, Nino, if you don't give us credit for being, you know, a step away, a step above.
And, you know, so that it's, this is how you go.
This is the GRJF sort of model.
It's thesis, Antithesis and then synthesis.
We're at the place of synthesis, whether we like it or not.
The light and the dark, okay, this is what's joining here, so that we can then transcend.
You cannot deny either side.
You have to absolutely understand where it's coming from, what its motivations have been, and then you begin to be able to Encompass all of that in your being, in your understanding.
If you have what you have, everyone has what's called the shadow self.
If you deny it, what happens?
You don't get rid of it, it just grows, right?
Like a monster, okay?
It's as above so below the human, the dynamic of the human who's trying to reach transcendence.
Synthesis, antithesis, I mean thesis, antithesis, synthesis is basically a transcendence once you reach that point of understanding both sides.
So what is reincarnation?
You incarnate to both sides.
Why?
To experience.
To learn.
To understand.
What are you understanding?
Source.
The real God.
Not a fake God.
Not a vindictive God.
Not a God that takes sides.
It's not about that.
It's transcendence.
You don't see it as kind of a trap, a prison planet?
In a sense, or a school.
I prefer to see it as a school, because I think this is where it's happening.
In other words, you have to go through the—these are spiritual concepts, but they're also— I'm the type of guy that hates school, so I look at it as a prison planet, you know?
But a lot of times, this is how these—look, you can either fall into the trap, become part of the trap, become like one of the taskmasters in the trap, right?
One of the prison guards.
Or you can see through it and transcend it.
All right?
All I'm trying to do is bring in this.
That's kind of like Scientologists are trying to transcend.
They're trying to break the karmic wheel.
Buddhists.
But unfortunately, Scientology has a huge control structure behind the scenes.
I'm just making examples.
I'm just stating examples.
I'm just saying, everyone understands this control trap, and they're trying to break away from it.
So, in a way, it is a trap.
Belief systems are often prisons to keep you limited, to keep you from transcending.
So, do you ever learn enough here in this school that you finally transcend?
Absolutely!
What do you think I'm talking about?
So, it takes multiple lifetimes to come here?
Yes, but if you understand it while you're here, in a sense, you can live in a state of bliss anyway.
This is what goes on with the yogis.
So, let me ask you this, Carrie.
Hold on.
Let me ask you this.
So when you die, and you see the bright light, and you go towards the bright light, what happens then?
Are you going to heaven, or are you getting your mind erased and sent back to earth?
I think it depends on your frequency.
I think it's really not an intellectual game, although you can involve the mind.
Now, I'm not an expert on death, okay, and transitioning.
I can tell you to some degree what I think.
It doesn't mean it's what's happening, but I do know that people have been told, don't go to the light, etc.
Look, if the light is really the light, then you can go towards it.
There are different degrees of light, you know, you've ever heard that?
You know, people are, they simplify things until they're stupid and nonsensical, all right?
If you have an understanding, if you reach this higher level that I'm talking about, you see through the dark, you see through the light to the higher place, then you're not going to be fooled no matter where you go.
No matter what challenge is presented in front of you, right?
And when you say religion is the ultimate trap, the religion is the real trap to contain our consciousness.
It's a huge trap.
It's one of the biggest traps, yes, on this planet.
Religion.
Codified rules and regulations.
It's like a program more than a program.
It's a program.
Absolute program.
Why do you repeat phrases constantly?
Have you ever had a conversation with a person who's locked into that?
Like every other sentence, they basically are quoting from someone else.
The mind never gets engaged.
It's MK-Ultra mind control.
The Nazis knew it very well.
You say that was the first real mind control was religion back in the day because that was the best way to control the Nazis?
No doubt about it.
No doubt about it.
And now it's what?
Television?
MSM?
Internet?
No, it's still religion.
I mean, why does one spend so much time mouthing these nonsense?
But they're getting ready to shift that by destroying all religions, starting this holy war, and going to climate... In a sense, religion, it's like not only the opiate of the masses, but it's a crutch.
It's a lot like... even technology, in the end, is a crutch.
Why is it a crutch?
It's a materialization that allows you to do something that actually is built into our genome.
It's built into who we are.
If we are truly Source, and this is going to be true in the future, we will move things with our mind, we will fly craft with our mind, we will teleport with our mind, we will journey, and you can even do these things now.
So, in other words, what I'm saying is, do you need a craft if you can do it With your own mind.
Our mind is our technology.
So what moves faster than light?
What's faster than light is consciousness.
Consciousness?
Yeah.
Signal non-locality.
You've heard that term?
Yes.
This is what remote viewing uses, okay?
That from me to someone where in China, I can be in exact unison and communication with someone there right this minute, even while I'm talking to you.
As humans, we have amazing gifts.
We have not discovered them.
How do you force somebody, this is from the Illuminati side of the station, on the one side, you know, it's either you get positive reinforcement, like pat on the head, good boy, or you get Negative reinforcement, which puts you in a prison.
What they do to their children, they torture them.
They do it on purpose.
Why?
Because they want to release the genie in the bottle.
What do I mean by that?
The spirit in the vessel.
That's why they do it.
They think they're actually doing their kids a favor.
You know, it's twisted, but it's how they think.
Again, because they're very materialistic.
Explain doing their kids a favor for me for a second.
By torturing them, that releases the spirit?
Yes, that's what happens.
Explain for a second.
I know that creates all... Okay, well, I don't know, to me it's very obvious.
Okay, let's say, okay, we inhabit this human body.
What happens to you when you're in pain or you're in prison physically, like, you know, and they held you, hold you down and so on and so forth?
What happens, what does your mind do?
What is, and our mind, by the way... Takes you somewhere else.
You go somewhere else.
Yes, yes, you leave.
You escape.
Yes!
So if you keep leaving... So that's them freeing the soul.
In a way, it is, but they capture it in the same place, because what they're doing with the negative reinforcement is they're requiring the person, the person becomes dependent on the pain in order to leave, okay?
You see how that, it's a capture operation.
A much easier way to do this.
So they give them the candy, but they have the stick, you know, it's the carrot stick thing.
So, if you understand, every night you leave your body, okay?
It's not a painful process.
When you go to sleep?
Yes.
Then why don't you just leave it at that?
Why don't we just leave it there?
Why do we need to do all these other methods?
Okay, because magicians, dark magicians, are trying to steal your energy, so they capture you, they capture that essence of you, that spirit, and then they use it.
So then you would agree that is evil?
Doing it that way, yes.
But if I sit and meditate and do the same thing, I'm in control.
I'm master of me.
You understand?
Right, and I'm with you.
It's a big difference.
I'm just saying, so that would, to me, be evil, what they're doing.
That is, there's no reason to understand it.
Of course!
I'm never assuming anything other than that.
It is, yes, it's evil.
What is evil?
It's the reversal.
It's the other side, okay?
It's, what is, evil, reverse, doesn't it mean live or something like that?
E-V-I-L-L-I-V-E, right?
Live.
Okay, so it's the opposite.
Again, when I was starting this out, the union of opposites.
If you understand that's what everyone wants, everyone wants to transcend the union of opposites.
We're in a system, Earth is a system of polarities.
It's that way on purpose so that people- All I'm saying is if we're all trying to transcend, what I'm asking you is this, is if we're all trying to transcend, we're trying to get out of this system, correct?
If we're trying to transcend- Yes, transcend it.
So then I'm right in saying this is like a prison planet.
You are trying to transcend out of it.
Yes, but it's not, you're not, but you don't have to be in prison immediately.
In other words, it's all in our minds.
It's all in our—which is not lodged in the body, by the way.
It's our consciousness.
So when I say it's all in our minds, it's really consciousness.
And our consciousness is connected to God.
So you can be in bliss.
This is what the yogis and various people try to teach.
You can transcend the opposites, but you have to do it through an advanced form of meditation and understanding that you can travel anywhere with your consciousness, okay?
So you don't have to be trapped here?
Exactly.
Okay, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's true.
Okay, we can also travel and rematerialize.
So we can dematerialize here and rematerialize somewhere else.
That's why portal technology is so important.
That's why our scientists are completely obsessed right now with what you call time travel and portal technology.
Okay, they want to figure out how to do it without so much materializing of everything.
So they can do it without the spaceships, but they use them because they're materialists as well.
It's, you know, it's understanding this, you know, it's, it's, it's like, how do you become God?
I mean, really, God, God, that is all that is okay.
You don't need a body eventually.
This is what enlightened ETs realize okay that's why they stop materializing into this dimension or if they do they can only do it for a short time do you understand that concept yeah i mean you don't have to have now the illuminati abhor that idea because if you are able to escape and they can't control you Then what does that mean?
They can't suck on your energy.
They can't put you into a container and feed off you and use you to do certain actions, negative actions on the planet.
So let's say we have a rock concert, just like in Israel, what was happening when they attacked.
Why?
They were having a concert.
They were having a, you know, sort of semi-rock concert, right?
So all the people there are sort of, you know, they're dancing and so on.
So they're kind of gradually leaving in a sort of euphoria their bodies.
Who comes in?
A satanic group to capture their essences, to knock them out of their bodies, whether by killing them literally, raping them, torturing them, you know, pain.
Okay, pain knocks you out of your body, right?
And then what happens?
These beings that learn how to suck off the energy take the energy, okay?
Yeah, and not to mention they're also being very distracted with the music, it's loud, Yeah, but it puts you in an altered state.
It puts you in a state where you are less tied to your body, metaphorically speaking, okay?
You are happy.
You know what happy is?
You know, when your consciousness rises and you're in a high vibration, your aura expands.
What are you doing?
You're expanding out of your body.
You see?
Beautiful.
Carrie, I'm going to call it there.
I got to get going.
I'm in a hotel room and I'm going to knock soon.
All right.
So, um, man, I love these conversations with you.
Let's do it again.
All right.
Yeah, for sure.
All right, Carrie.
Thank you so much.
And I'm not, and I'm not like sidestepping you or not doing interviews with you.
I did interviews with you.
It's all right.
You take care of Nina.
All right.
Love you.
Love you.
Lots of love.
Okay.
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