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Jan. 29, 2024 - Project Camelot
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WAR CORRESPONDENT DISCUSSION: KERRY CASSIDY, JAY WEIDNER HOSTED BY JEAN CLAUDE
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Welcome back to the show.
How are you?
Hey, I'm good.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
It looks like you and I are color-coded today.
What happened, Jay?
Those guys have to look the same, you know?
It could be that we're psychically connected through our Shungite pendants.
There's a god-mystic experiment going on, guys.
Thank you so much, everyone, for joining us here today on this live interactive show.
We're triple casting right now on Twitter, YouTube, and also, of course, on Rumble.
So we'll be spending a little bit of time with you guys here on YouTube, but five to ten minutes in here, we're probably going to have to switch over the conversation to Rumble and Twitter, because we're probably going to be talking about some stuff that don't really work well with some of the algorithms here.
And I'll get to that part of the introduction a little bit later in the show.
So, first, as the subject title discusses, guys, we're going to be looking at some fake realities, the veil thinning, so to speak, and the exposure or the apocalypse of everything in our realm.
So first I want to ask each and every one of you—I'll start with Kerry, you're on the board now—why is it that now, suddenly, even though researchers and people like you have been at it for a long time, trying to bring reality to our world, why is it now suddenly that we're having an energy and a momentum behind this big, huge awakening and apocalypse?
Does it have something to do with the rebel gene?
Does it have something to do with astrology, Kerry?
Why is now such a critical time in our world?
Well, I think that the revealing that the time we're in is, you know, what they call the apocalypse is really the awakening.
And so, in essence, there are energies coming into the Earth from out in the cosmos.
I think specifically the Sagittarian Galaxy, which we are merging with, and energies from the Galactic Center that are affecting People and the move of awakening is towards truth so anything to do with exposing the truth in any area is
is coming to the fore and that's why the liars are going to basically find themselves stranded in the middle of a desert because everyone is gravitating and resonating with truth and when what people realize or begin to realize is that resonation the heart and the mind resonates and there is a actual physical effect of truth on the body
As well as the mind and the psyche and the rest.
So we can feel the vibrations of truth.
We can feel when people are lying to us.
And it's an amazing thing when you tap into it.
The more you meditate, the more you tap into that sort of thing.
But I, you know, I would encourage people to, you know, to sit, listen to the silence, get a take on whatever you get, you know, however you resonate with truth.
Start to hone into that more and more and then you'll make less mistakes.
You'll be less of a fool in your life.
You'll actually have some better things happen to you because the closer we are to truth, the closer we resonate with source, if you will.
And once you get to that connection, you're really on the road and everything good can come to you.
What can I say?
That's a very good point.
Thank you, Carrie, for that.
Let me ask you to redirect on that too.
We just saw last week, or maybe a week before, Google putting out a notice that they were changing their algorithms with respect to a sensitive event around the corner.
So giving them more Capabilities to curate our reality through the search engines and YouTube and all that.
Do you feel that they also see that this is coming out and that's why we're seeing such that heavy hand of censorship moving forward?
And do you think too, can the cat be put back into the bag or are they goners at this point?
What's your thoughts?
Well, you know, the cat can't be put back into the bag as you call it.
You can't unlearn something you've learned.
So even on a soul level, that's true.
So, and we are actually much larger than like simply the physical body and the presence here on Earth, obviously.
We have, we're actually multi-dimensional.
We exist on multiple Planes of existence simultaneously we tap into those planes in a daily basis and that includes the interdimensional We are time travelers by nature That's, in essence, what we do.
We're here, in fact, scientists have even seen that we actually resonate, we flicker in and out of this reality.
You might have heard that before, but it's true.
We, as we think of ourselves in this body-soul-mind complex, are not always here.
We are actually flickering in and out And I have actually, I mean, the more in tune you are, the more you start to tap into these other realities simultaneously with this one.
And this is what's happening.
They call it, you know, the veil is thinning, but it's actually a physiological effect as well as changing our material reality.
And as we have moved more and more, we've gone from 3D Into 4D is another way of explaining it and moving into 5D.
And we simultaneously can basically be aware of those different dimensions.
I, myself, can bilocate.
I'm aware.
Sometimes I've seen I bilocated to Egypt, for example, before I ever traveled there.
And in dreams, of course, we do this very easily.
But even when I'm waking, I can actually bilocate and Remote viewers know about this phenomena.
So it's not a surprise that all of this is coming to the fore, that people are beginning to tap into these other realities.
And the fact is, it's not new.
We always have.
It's just that consciousness, being aware of something, doubles it, you know, triples it, even whatever you want to say.
We are now becoming awake, I call it awake and aware, and basically we're tapping into all kinds of realities and we're tapping into the fullness of who we really are, not simply a material sort of body in this dimension.
Or a battery to the matrix of her own enslavement.
We're tapping into our higher selves, if you will.
That is also happening for a lot of people.
Now some people prefer to stay blinded and that's actually a choice, believe it or not.
That's not just some default
place that we enter in we you know as if you understand that we are sort of made and connected by source then it's not like you're sometimes made and connected by source you're always made and connected by source and it's simply your awareness of that and tapping into that and it's it's kind of a matter of flow you you tap into the flow and then you you you go into the river if you will of flow
And the more you become aware, the more you're part of it.
Very good.
Thank you for that introduction.
Kerry, Jay, let me bring you up on the screen also and ask you the same question.
Why now?
I spoke about astrological alignments at the beginning of the show.
Kerry's talking about also here, if you look at the triune human, explaining here by thinking in Destiny's, Percival's book, that most of us is outside of our corporeal being, and also the fact that we are moving into these new energies from space.
We talked about this on the show before, the yugas of time.
Explain in your point of view, Jay, why things are accelerating right now and why we're living this huge awakening, an apocalypse so to speak, or unveiling of these big truths right now for humanity.
My first two books are about the cross of Hende in France, about how it's telling us about how we're moving out of one cycle and into another, and it's all based on the center of the galaxy.
And so, when we are orbiting the center of the galaxy, we're out near the edge of the galactic plane, we oscillate up and down.
And sometimes we'll go right to the edge where all the sludge and the stars and everything are.
And then sometimes we go up and we go down and we go up and we go down.
It takes 12,000 years to do one of these cycles.
And right now we're coming out of the Kali Yuga, and we're rising up above, and the galactic energies are now not longer blocked by the matter that sits between us and the galactic center.
So now we are receiving energy, and that's why the Sun has turned white.
Instead of being yellow, it's going to get even more different.
It's going to change colors again.
As we go forward and we're going to start seeing the denizens of the plasma universe.
So we're surrounded by all these invisible entities, literally trillions of them all around us that we can't see.
And the reason we can't see them is because we weren't We were in the Kali Yuga, and now, if you watch YouTube or whatever, you can see people are seeing more and more UFOs, they're seeing more entities, they're seeing... So people are seeing things that they used to not see, and it's kind of freaking everybody out.
And that's going to get more and more.
As we move further out of the Kali Yuga, because we're suffering in the hangover of the Kali Yuga.
The Kali Yuga is gone, but we still got the hangover.
And we're afraid of everything and we're fear of flight syndrome and the whole thing and that's all going to dissipate as we go on but What's also going on?
Is we're compounding facts So because of this internet thing we can compound facts in real time whereas before It was, you know, I'm old enough, I lived long before the internet.
And, you know, and I had when I had to do research, I had to go to the Seattle Public Library, and spend the whole day there just to find out eight or nine different things, right.
And now I can do that in 10 minutes on the internet.
And so we don't we things are moving so fast.
And we're compounding fact after fact that now we're kind of all sitting at the apex of this pyramid, looking back at everything.
And we can now see, hey, wait a minute here.
Things are not what we think.
And furthermore, every day in the news, there's confirmation that what we suspected was going on is actually going on.
For instance, Carrie Lake from Arizona saying that the Republican Party tried to bribe her not to run.
A giant television personality who's very good-looking, incredibly articulate, yet they're willing to bribe her not to run.
All right.
That tells you everything.
It just tells you everything.
And at the very end of the conversation, the guy says, if they ever find out we had this conversation, they're going to kill me.
He said it.
All right.
This is out in the news.
You can go listen to the audio.
So, you know, this is all building up and people are now talking and we don't care anymore.
When you're when you've been under such duress as we've been since 2020, at a certain point, You snap.
And everybody just says, you know what?
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done with the childishness.
I'm done with all these pre-adolescents running around telling me BS.
And I'm just going to start telling everybody what I see.
And I think that's going on everywhere right now.
Right.
I'm with you on that.
And just here in Canada, it's very personal to me also, because just two days ago, the federal court just ruled that the invocation of the Emergencies Act, of course, violated charter rights.
We've been fighting for this for two years.
We were called misogynists, the fringe minority.
But here we are now.
With an actual court ruling.
So it's bittersweet on one hand, but at the same time it's an indication that the momentum is on the side of truth, as Kerry was saying.
So, Jay, for your redirect, instead of asking you if we can put the cat back in the bag, so to speak, I want to ask you about where Perhaps the world controllers go from here.
If in fact this momentum is so fast and so strong, that could suggest that they're akin to a wounded animal or a cornered wounded animal right now and that they might do some crazy stuff here to try to extricate themselves from perhaps the justice that comes out of everything they've done in the past.
What's your gut take on that?
Where are we going moving forward with our controllers?
Well, I think you can see that there's been a change in opinion and direction in the last two or three weeks.
All of a sudden, the people on the top are beginning to talk very oddly about, like, they're losing.
And they know it.
And they are.
And we know it.
And so, yeah, they're going to do something crazy.
World War III is all I can think of, how they're going to try to get out of it.
Again, people have just had it.
You know, there's many instances in history where somebody is being given an order, which if that order was carried out, would result in a huge devastating thing.
And that person refused to carry out the order.
They didn't say, I'm not going to do that.
They just didn't do it.
All right.
They didn't make a big show out of it.
They didn't do it and saved a lot of people's lives.
And I think that's what's going on here.
I've heard stories from Ukraine where The colonels and the guys in the military are going, no, we're not doing that.
Sorry.
No, no, not doing it.
And so that's making the whole system fall apart.
And, you know, so the whole thing is reaching this kind of crescendo.
They know they can't do their super theater anymore because it doesn't work.
That's what we learned from The talk show host who got sued for saying that an event in the eastern United States was faked.
And he got sued for millions and millions of dollars.
Almost a billion dollars.
Yeah, a billion dollars.
Now everybody's backed off, but we're not backing off.
I understand that it was very clever to use children.
We can't really talk about it.
There are so many events that are so fake that if we start back engineering these things, and that's what's going to happen here, that's where we're all going to be going next, we're going to uncover the fact that almost everything that they've been showing us is fake.
And it's done, it's weaponized theater.
That's what it is.
And they use movie business and TV and they hire writers and actors and everything.
All right.
Crisis actors?
Well, OK, so I think that's good for here for the YouTube channel.
But just before we finish there, I wanted to add two points there to the cornered animal argument.
We just saw, of course, in the last day or so here that we're going to have a conflict in Texas.
The National Guard could be pitted against the federal government here very soon, sparking off maybe an American Revolution 2.0, as some people are suggesting.
That's just here, homegrown in North America.
But on the international stage, Sorry, on the international stage, yes, Israel is suggesting now that Iran might be a legitimate target.
So again, talks about here creating the World War III scenario in order to maybe change the tables on all this awakening and enlightenment.
This is what I meant about the Texas border crisis.
We're going to be doing a very special show on that later tonight, guys, if you want to join us for the Beyond the News Texas, the American Revolution 2.0 edition.
That's going to be at 8 o'clock Eastern tonight on Rumble.
Okay, guys, let me bring the link.
If you're watching still on YouTube now, please come and join us over on the Rumble or on the Twitter feed for the No Holds Barred conversation.
So let me just disconnect now from the YouTube feed.
Yes, remove and remove.
Okay, very good.
We are now live on Rumble Only.
There's almost 4,000 people watching us there live.
Thank you so much, everyone, for joining and being patient with us here through this introduction.
But I thought it was important to set the stage for this conversation, and both Kerry and Jay did a really good job here setting the stage for this conversation.
So first, I'll start with you, Jay.
You sent me a couple of things.
Kerry, also, you sent me a couple of things that we need to look at here today.
I've put a few of my own things on the slide deck here to share with the audience members.
But for a lot of people, The awakening process.
Well, for the older generation, it might have been JFK's assassination, but for the people who are watching the show here in general, it probably is 9-11.
So, Jay, you give me a clip to look at here today.
I've zoomed in here at the 8-minute mark, and I've also slowed down this clip to 0.25 speed here, so we can... Is there any way that you can click through this frame by frame?
I cannot do frame by frame, but I can put it pretty slow, like that.
and I can refresh. - All right, well, we'll have to live with it.
Okay, we'll have to probably play it over about two or three times. - That's fine, okay. - All right, so I'm glad you showed it.
All right, everybody.
So this is the very, we were just talking about this, so you're gonna be happy with my answer here.
So this was, after 9/11, this was actually probably the most famous clip, film that was out about a plane hitting the building, hitting the South Tower.
And as a filmmaker, I was fascinated with this clip.
And I probably watched this clip 200 times.
But here's the thing before I go on.
Today, trying to find this clip to give to you, JC, took me 45 minutes on Google and DuckDuckGo.
45 minutes before I found an instance in the middle of a bunch of clips.
This clip does not exist as an isolated clip on YouTube.
OK?
All right.
Now let's go back and let's take it so the plane is out of the frame.
OK.
All right, so a video camera is moving at 30 frames a second.
So we can see by the fact that the plane is moving by frame to frame, A, how fast the plane is moving, because you just take the length of the 737 and take the length between the frames.
And then you can see how fast the plane is moving.
OK?
That's the first thing.
The second thing is that if the plane is moving really fast, you're going to get what is called motion blur.
So every frame, that plane is moving fast.
So you're not going to be able to see the plane distinctly at all.
It's just going to be a blur.
But you see this plane completely distinctly in every frame.
OK?
Okay, so we can see how fast the plane is going frame to frame.
So we know before the plane hits the building, how fast it's moving frame to frame, right?
We all agree on that, right?
Well, when that nose of that plane hits that building, the tail keeps moving at the same speed.
There is no resistance to the plane striking the building.
Here's the other part.
Go in close.
And you will see by going in close that no debris falls from this collision.
There's no rocks, no metals, no bolts, no nothing falls.
It goes through the building like a hot knife through butter.
This plane is built out of thin aluminum.
All right?
That building is built out of concrete and steel.
There is no way in the world that that event could have happened the way that we see it, which is why they have buried this clip and don't want anyone to see it, because it's so obvious.
There would be so much stuff falling from that collision that you don't see anything.
There's nothing falling.
It's just like there's no brain matter on the back of the limousine in the JFK assassination.
Here we have a collision of a 500 mile an hour plane, which I don't believe, hitting a building, and it goes right through the wings, which are very collapsible, by the way, on Boeings.
They should have collapsed at the very least.
You would have seen the wings fall down to the ground, but you don't.
The wings go right through the steel and concrete, just like a hot knife through butter.
And it is not real.
That is, in my view, that is a hologram.
It is not real.
I don't know what it is.
But, I mean, if I had to say, I would say that what we're seeing in this clip is some kind of Project Blue Beam or something.
And it's not real.
And so did planes crash into the World Trade Center?
I don't know.
All I'm saying is this clip here is fake.
It was a major clip that they showed everywhere on the news.
Very good expose, Jay.
Quickly, your thoughts on this?
Also, I know you've done quite a few episodes, you've interviewed a lot of whistleblowers on this as well.
Do you ascribe to the idea that perhaps this is holographic of sorts, or this is some type of manipulation after the fact?
Because there are also evidence to suggest that there is a clip of this without the plane, and that it was added after the fact in real time on TV.
Some have made those arguments as well.
Kerry, what do you think about this?
Okay, yes.
I have whistleblower testimony on this going way back, even to the beginning of Project Camelot, which at this point goes back 19 years.
And I can tell you one of our first witnesses, who came out under his real name, Arthur Neumann, did tell us that he was, I can't tell you where he was, but he was in a major
base and he was part of the team that were in essence part of the hologram constructors or whatever you want to call that they were involved in this and that he told us way back then that this was what was happening and I can also tell you that John Lear who's a very famous pilot Hold on, can I just add to that?
I believe he was also saying that it would have been impossible for a real pilot in a cockpit to do this maneuver with the collision detection alarms going off also at the same time.
That was added to your testimony.
Hold on, can I just add to that?
I believe he was also saying that it would have been impossible for real pilots in a cockpit to do this maneuver with the collision detection alarms going off also at the same time.
That was added to your testimony.
Yeah, keep going, Kerry.
I don't want to interrupt, but if you look at that clip that you were showing, you can see the left wing has not entered the building yet, yet you can't see it.
It's completely disappeared.
That's because they made a bunch of mistakes in their holograms.
There's others too, by the way.
I found at least 10 mistakes of planes with things disappearing or being added that don't make any sense.
So Carrie's right.
Sorry about that, Carrie, please go on.
That's a very good point also.
Sure.
Well, I basically, you know, told you the two top witnesses on this matter.
Okay.
That Camelot was already, you know, well aware of and has been for 19 years.
Actually, the entire time that I've been doing this investigation into everything that we are dealing with in our reality right now.
And yeah, so those witness testimonies are Sort of beyond reproach.
And of course, there have been others that, you know, verified this as well.
So, what can I tell you?
This is what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with holograms, and we're dealing with a sales job.
We're dealing with Arabs with box cutters, and there's a huge amount of investigation of all that, of them learning how to fly a plane in a certain way that John Lear says cannot be done, and he's an expert pilot.
And so and so forth.
So it's extraordinary.
We went to war with Afghanistan and eventually Iraq over supposedly this story.
So we are, you know, we have been complete, I mean, go back to Pearl Harbor.
This was an inside job.
They asked Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor to get Americans into the war.
I mean, this stuff is, you know, and I've got, I've got like a whole litany of stuff that goes down, you know, down the road.
And even, you know, Jay and I have already revisited the Kennedy assassination.
He's been on my show, but we can also go through those details.
So there's so much and there's more in our everyday life.
And now we have a name for it.
We call it Deep Fakes.
And I sent you an article that we can refer to.
We'll get into all of that and there's more examples here we want to share with the audience.
Thank you so much everyone for all the comments in the show.
Some of you are like, wow, we never saw this one before.
So thank you for following along with Jay, Kerry and I here today.
Jay, one thing I want to mention also before we get into this next picture of the Twin Towers that Jay provided me.
I also wanted to share, for me, when this happened, I was like, wait a second, you guys are telling us that the plane hitting the towers, the heat was so high that it melted all these steel beams, yet the passport of the culprits was found in perfect condition!
A little mere piece of paper, huh?
What are the odds of that?
But anyways, I digress.
Jay, what are we looking at here and why is it important in this concert?
All right, so I was at Ground Zero five days after 9-11.
I was across the street from those two buildings.
And I looked, and I shot it with my camera.
The rubble was two stories high.
And I sat there going, huh.
Thousands of file cabinets, thousands of telephones, thousands of computers, big computers in those days, not little ones, not laptops, thousands of desks, thousands of chairs, all managed to compress themselves with all the steel, the concrete, and the glass, down to two stories high.
And I could not believe it.
And I just was just beside myself.
And so I got on the internet and I searched and I searched and I searched and I searched and I found this picture.
What does this picture show you?
This picture shows you that there's no floors.
The World Trade Center.
Now there are floors at the top, because I've been to the top.
I've been to the restaurant at the top.
And there's floors at the bottom.
I've been to the floors in the bottom of the World Trade Center.
But we did a survey, I did after 9-11, of the tenants that were renting at the buildings, both buildings.
And there was hardly any, maybe 15 tenants over both buildings, and it really stuck out like, you know, the dog that doesn't bark.
And so, my surmise, I know everyone's gonna think I'm crazy, but I think these buildings were built to be brought down.
I really do.
And I have an interview.
I didn't do it.
Freeman Fry did an interview with the guy who was the architect who worked with the architect who built these buildings, designed these buildings, and he said in the interview that they put the explosions in the building while they were being built because they knew that they were going to be impossible to take down in any other way.
Wow, fascinating.
There's that, and there's also the dancing Israelis, the report that some of them had been planting incendiary devices.
No, they were on the 98th floor at an art project, a famous art project that they were doing, which one of the things that they were doing was taking mannequins and throwing them out the window.
They cut a window out and were throwing mannequins out the window.
And people are saying, what is this?
And they're saying, well, you know, it's our art project.
And they were seeing, and this is really true, there's a famous picture of these Israeli art students standing in front of a whole bunch of boxes in front of their art exhibit.
And on the boxes, there's a number.
So I went over and I got that number and I googled it and it was for plastic explosives.
The detonation device codes.
Yeah, I remember.
Absolutely crazy.
Do you want to add to this also, Kerry?
For me, I just want to share this anecdote.
When I was six years old, I dreamt of this event, and I saw the people jumping out, burning, hearing the thumps of them on the ground, like I was there, and I was having all these ulcers.
And my parents were like, why do you have all these ulcers?
I'm like, I have this recurring dream of these people jumping out of this fiery building after a plane hit.
And I had that for a while.
My parents didn't know what to do with me, how to console me.
I went to see a shrink.
I went to see a doctor.
I went to see a priest.
My parents just were like, what do we do with this kid?
He's so nervous.
How is he so nervous at six years old?
And finally, one night I had this apparition in my room, which today I would probably...
I won't get into that.
But anyways, I had an apparition go into my room of this lady telling me, Oh, you're not supposed to remember that.
And anyways, it's not going to happen until you're 40.
So don't stress about this.
And kind of just waved her hand.
And after that, I was okay.
I was my normal, lively kid after that, until this event happened.
And I remembered those dreams and then having the conversation with my mom and telling me, Oh, yeah, you were for months, like really rocked with this particular vision in your mind.
Anyways, wanted to share that with the audience members.
Cary, your thoughts on the dancing Israelis, what's happening here with the floors, and whether or not it was built knowing in the past that it was eventually going to be sacrificed here.
Cary?
Well, I think the investor knew that it was going to be taken down.
And that was the plan all along.
And I think, actually, I've just done a whole proposal, not proposal, but a production, in which I'm talking about what I call advanced knowledge.
And so what we're really looking at is the way the Illuminati have been planning these events way in advance.
Okay, and then this MIT, of course, as you know, had the that had been polling people, not sure how exactly, who were seeing this event before it happened.
And they reported that after it happened, obviously.
But the reality is that lots of people had dreams and visions of this sort of event, since it was, I guess, such a wrinkle in the fabric of time.
In many people's perceptions.
And I will tell you, and I know I'm not answering your question directly because I didn't relate to how many floors were in the building.
You know, sorry, but that was not where my attention was.
But my attention, interestingly, is that I was living in Marina Del Rey on the water.
Temporarily and I woke up at something like 4 in the morning or whatever time it was and I felt super sick and I turned on the television for some reason and I just as I saw this I guess they were repeating it a lot back then even though it's not you can't find it now of the planes hitting the building and At the time I thought I had turned on a movie but I didn't know why.
I couldn't get out of bed and I was so sick and then as the day wore on I realized as I watched more news and so and so forth that it actually was a real event supposedly.
And it's weird that my body and my sort of psyche knew something.
And then what I did was, I thought it was all BS.
I just knew it was, I just had a sixth sense about it.
So I went out, and I know this sounds crazy, but I had already been traveling in the Middle East.
So I went out and went into the center of Los Angeles, Melrose, and I bought a Persian rug.
And just, I couldn't afford a big one.
It was just a small one, like five by eight or whatever you call it.
And, but it was authentic.
And I talked to the guys there and on the news, they were all supposed to be, you know, terrorists and all this nonsense.
And that was my protest, my personal protest against what was happening in the news that day and the whole 9-11 thing.
So I came at this from a completely different angle.
And then later I got into Camelot, you know, and this was years later, because Camelot didn't start until 2005.
So just saying that I was already cognizant that there was something very, very wrong with the story that was being put out there.
Fascinating.
Thank you for sharing that, Kerry.
Let's move on now to JFK.
So not JFK himself here, but we're going to talk about Jack Ruby, of course, and Lee Harvey Oswald.
If you guys want to have more detail on all of that, of course, please do check out the JFK solving the crime of the century documentary you can find that on Jeff K X org for the international audience also you can find that on Vimeo Jay let's go back to this picture here top right corner there there's a protrusion intrusion into this fake reality here explain to us what we're looking at and why it's important I believe that's a Philco Mike I
I used to use them about 35, 40 years ago.
It's a very high quality Hollywood microphone.
And this is just supposed to be Lee Harvey Oswald passing through the garage on his way to his arraignment at the courthouse.
Nothing special was supposed to happen here, but somebody very psychically managed to plant A microphone right above the area where one of the most famous events of all time took place.
And also, I bring your attention to the fact that this photographer is about, what, 14 feet high or something?
I don't know.
At least 14 feet tall.
You're going to tell me that two policemen, highly trained policemen, who are guarding Lee Harvey Oswald, and Lee Harvey Oswald, a highly trained Marine, do not see this guy coming at them with a gun?
Not one of them looks and sees us?
Come on!
That's friggin' ridiculous.
Of course they would see him.
Oswald would already be pulling back by this time, trying to get away from the gun.
So you can clearly see, if you look at their eyes, they're all Fixating forward as if they just doing everything they can to not look at that fat pudgy guy coming at him with the 45 Okay, so I found a video clip what you send me this and I want to share it with you guys here, too So there's two timestamp one is the 13 second and the other one is the 29.
So here I Um, let me play.
So 13 seconds.
So let me just back up just a little second here to about here.
Maybe a little bit further.
We're going to see, okay, hold on.
We'll play the clip first and you'll see the camera will change angle right there.
You see here?
There's a line here, but it's continuing on this brick wall, and there's a protrusion out there from this angle.
But the rest of the clip is kind of like scaled down or cropped to avoid showing that.
So we'll keep it playing here, just a sec.
Then, of course, we can't see it from that angle.
Okay, shot there.
And even there, you don't see it.
But let's go to the 29 second mark, 29, where we see that wall again, 28.
Okay, hold on, I'll play this here.
Right there.
That line.
Okay, so there's a guy in the way.
There's no more protrusion at this point here of that line with what could be the microphone you're talking about.
So it's there and then suddenly it's not there.
So it's not part of the building.
It's moving here throughout that clip.
I think that's very important.
I'll bring that link down if you guys want to go analyze that a little bit more here in the Rumble video.
Okay, so there's a link guys if you want to go check that out.
Carry, you also interviewed Jay.
Fabulous interview on the JFK X assassination there and the results of that particular investigation by Jay are absolutely amazing.
Guys, again, I don't want to spoil it for you guys here.
Go check out that interview with Carry or go check out the The documentary.
Anything else here that strikes your mind either with Jack Ruby or the police officers here or anything else generally speaking on this JFK X portion of that story here that you want to share with the audience as to be fake?
Okay, now I tend to think a little bit differently than Jay on this story.
Okay, so Jay has done a wonderful job and I love his documentary and I had him on my show because of that.
I think the SWIB idea is fascinating.
I think it's possible.
I do think that they substituted, if it happened the way he's thinking, That they substituted a double, because presidential doubles are very common, and we're seeing that with President Trump right now.
So many doubles out there, and you can actually start to see, and of course Biden has, you know, his peeling face mask, this actor stand-in, whatever you want to call him, is in multiple videos, and I don't need to show the audience that.
Now so I want to stay on topic here so because my mind goes in a million directions when we start with this kind of thing.
So what I considered is there was a there was a pocket inside the car where the real guy could go down into and the fake guy could go out.
Now I don't think that they would sacrifice even the double Knowing that there was going to be, as it does appear, that this was a clear, what I call, again, advanced knowledge of an event that was definitely going to happen, okay?
However it happened.
And I do think that there are multiple shooters and there has been various, you know, stories about that.
Now I know Jay doesn't think there's any shooters.
He thinks the whole thing is a stage.
It's all acted.
I do think It's very possible that you actually needed a ticket to get into Dealey Plaza that day if you were actually within the line of sight of the car and along the route.
Because, first of all, all the people do disappear.
Before it goes past the sign, I thought it was a really good point.
There are people.
After it goes past the sign, there are almost no people.
And so there are so many, you know, I am not a Kennedy assassination person.
I have somebody behind the scenes who's been, I've been consulting with, who is.
He doesn't buy Jay's point of view, but what happens is people get very attached to their version of events, let's say, to what they think happened.
And it's very hard to disagree or have a conversation with them at that point.
They're so emotionally attached to what they've landed on that ego gets involved in the whole thing.
So I don't have that kind of attachment to this situation.
I do think that there are also books have been written, now you can just look at the possibilities of what went on in terms of the cover-up, but We know that supposedly Aristotle and Nasus married Jackie, that she didn't have to have sex with him.
There was even an agreement about that.
She had separate bedrooms and so on and so forth.
But on Scorpios, the island, is where John F. Kennedy is supposed to have been secreted.
And I know that John Jon Jon, John F. Kennedy Jr.
spent his summers there, which would lend it to the idea that he wasn't seen in the presence of his father all the time, but he could have been temporary, you know, on during summers with him and so on and so forth.
I'll share a few of those pictures on my Twitter before I carry on.
So lots of backgrounds of Trump speaking, not so much now, but in the early days, there are shots of what is an older man that could be what some people feel is a dead ringer for John F. Kennedy.
I'll share a few of those pictures on my Twitter before I carry on.
Hold on just a sec, but what I like about what you're saying and what Jay is saying is either way, we were treated to a hoax.
And at the end of it all, whether it's by the squib technology or this trap compartment in the car, we're still talking about a president whose stage is on death.
And as you explain here, people who were there at Daily Plaza could have been similar to the people at that school shooting, having color-coded badges and being actors on the set here in order to perpetuate this myth.
Again, absolutely fascinating for people who haven't seen this documentary and for who this information is new, but yet there's a lot of evidence to suggest that he did survive this event, that his other mistress was also killed, or perhaps her death was staged soon after his, and that they went into hiding in the island you've just described.
So again, Well, and also, you know, I have a kind of a litany of stuff.
Also, along those lines, like father, like son, that JFK Jr., again, he faked his death as well.
And I also want to draw attention to all the fake deaths of so-called, you know, well-known musicians and actors.
Who I have said already on on videos, I believe at some point in our near future are going to all come on stage and reveal that because they got death threats from the cabal and threats against their families, they staged their own death with help, obviously, and in order to to basically survive.
And for their family members not to be killed, etc.
So we're looking at a pattern and patterns when you're trying to analyze a conspiracy, if you will, are very, very important.
So I just want to draw people's attention to that.
And I can substantiate the JFK Jr.
I've done a lot of investigation.
One thing that is a little puzzling is that, and I'm not sure how it could happen, but it did or might have, these authors of books, because you must know that there are 20 million books about JFK and about JFK Jr and Jackie and the whole family and so on and so forth and how they reacted to the so-called death and what the way they you know talk to the press etc etc.
So there seems to be a pattern of following the official narrative and that's very interesting.
Now one might say that adds to the suspicion if you will Because normally when people witness an event, a lot of things that go on with humans have to do with what's called a Rashomon.
This is a common practice and I can't tell you what's going on there, but I can tell you I've done research on JFK Jr.
narrative that they all witness together right so this is a common practice and I can't tell you what's going on there but I can tell you I've done research on JFK Jr. and the people who talk about his childhood and they're all using this same narrative and putting in you know bits and pieces along those lines I've I do know that one author that I interviewed about JFK Jr.'
's death, a very fascinating author.
He was almost killed using a special formula of agent orange from Vietnam.
That is unlike anything else.
And he almost died.
So just like really right on the edge of death when he was putting together his book on JFK Jr.
This is like 10 years after the fact.
Wow.
They do, you know, what my point is that they track people, um, I know they track the hell out of me, okay, and I'm sure they do with you guys, and that gets into a whole other story, and I've got proof of that, and I'm sure you do, Jay does too.
For sure.
Thank you, Kerry, for that.
We'll get back into JFK Jr.
in a little bit here, too.
You have a few exposés on your website.
I've taken the links there.
We're going to get to that, and I want to share that with the audience, too.
Before I go too far, though, I want to go back to JFK and how it pertains to the Boston bombing.
Jay, let me bring up—you shared with me two links here.
I'm going to share that with the audience members also, so this one here.
Go ahead, Jay, and set this up first, and then I also have a video clip to play for the audience.
Yeah, this is an article, probably one of the most important articles ever written about this subject that we're talking about by my great friend, the late, great David McGowan.
This was originally called The Curious Case of the Man Who Could Only Sit Down.
It's about the Boston bombing in which David, I believe David McGowan was killed for this article.
I called him after I read it.
I said, dude, I hope you are armed because you're going to get it.
And he died.
Eight weeks later, something like that.
And he was only 42, I think, something like that when he died.
And at the same time that the Boston bombings were going on, the JFK library got bombed.
People don't know that, but it got bombed.
And a lot of people are like, well, what's going on?
And what's happening here?
And I don't know what really happened there, except that I know that McGowan is right.
There are some things with the Boston bombing that absolutely did not make sense at all.
I don't know.
I can only speculate at that point.
of the Boston bombing is devastating.
It is devastating.
So I think that it might have been a cover for removing evidence or something over at the JFK library.
I don't know.
I can only speculate at that point.
But the two events are related, weirdly enough.
And you know, there's a lot of evidence also to suggest that some of the characters that are playing out this Boston bombing also appear in other very disastrous events.
So how unlucky can this person be to be at all of these events?
It seems a little bit outrageous, but when you look at the ads for crisis actors and all that stuff, maybe that's not so far-fetched.
Kerry, this whole thing about the library, perhaps we're removing some evidence there too?
What do you make of that?
That part was new to me, Jay, so thank you for bringing that up.
Any thoughts on that also further, Kari?
Right, that's new to me as well, but I will tell you a little clue here that you could follow if you haven't already, which is Juano Salvin's name.
His first name is Juan, which is John in Spanish.
And O is Jackie O. And Savin is the Savin Hill Library where his father, JFK, the library is built.
So if you don't know that this man is not who he says he is, you know, I think you're deaf, dumb, and blind, personally.
But, you know, we can go into that at a later date.
Or later, hour, whatever, however you want to do it.
So as far as the Sav-on-Hill library, you know, which is the JFK library, I think that, yeah, so there's a link up there.
Not just to JFK, but to JFK Jr.
Fascinating.
Jay, do you want to redirect on that, or do you want me to move to the next one?
Well, I do want to say one thing.
Cary was talking about Jackie's marriage to Aristotle when asked this.
Now, I don't want to say too much about that, because it's kind of bizarre.
But I'm going to suggest that if you... Well, how do I do this in the right way?
Okay, so one day Jackie, on Scorpio's Island, decided to go swimming.
And Aristotle Onassis hired a photographer and photographed her in her bathing suit, swimming on the beach.
Very famous.
They were on Life Magazine.
And Jackie was outraged and found out that Aristotle had hired the guy and was super angry with him and everything.
And I'm not going to say any more.
But if you really want to understand reality, go look at those photographs.
I'm not going to say any more about them, except that Different sexes have different types of bodies.
And that's all I'm going to say.
That's all I'm going to say.
I had no idea you were going there, buddy.
I'm not going to go there.
It's over.
I'm not saying anymore.
There is a reason why they didn't sleep together.
Oh my god.
There's a gentleman by the name of MrE3000 who used to have a YouTube channel and who kept getting deleted and deleted for this type of investigative work.
He called it Trans Investigation or Transpocalypse Investigations.
He's now rebooted on BitChute, I believe, so go check him out, but he's talked about this also before.
Anyways, guys, that's...
Thanks, Jay, for that one.
Okay, where do I go from here?
Okay, let's go to Laurel Canyon here.
Now, Jay, you sent me this also.
I wanted to talk to you about Jack Parsons' Sex and Rockets also, too.
Maybe we can tie that in here.
But, Jay, first explain here the connection with Laurel Canyon and how a lot of this Mindfuckery or MKUltra technology is affecting us today and where it kind of all started.
Share that with the audience.
Yeah, so I used to live in Laurel Canyon, by the way, one of the most beautiful places on Earth.
At the very top of Laurel Canyon, from about 1955 till it burned down in the late 70s, was an Air Force headquarters, an MKUltra Air Force headquarters.
Strangely enough, the hotel that was there before they built this headquarters looks just like the hotel that's in Stanley Kubrick's The Shining.
Exactly.
So anyway...
Suddenly, in the 1960s, early 1960s, as Dave McGowan puts in his book, for some reason, LA was a movie capital, not a music capital, but for some reason, all of a sudden, all these musical acts started moving to Laurel Canyon.
And all of these musical acts and people all had mostly parents that were in the military-industrial complex.
Frank Zappa's dad worked at the weapons lab outside of Maryland, outside of Baltimore.
Jim Morrison's dad was in the Tolkien Gulf incident.
He was the admiral in that incident.
There's a boat in the Navy now, the USS Morrison.
Anyway, McGowan just shows you that they have all these links, and he gives you the idea that these are the wayward children of the Illuminati, and they don't know what to do with them!
Oh, you play guitar?
Well, go to Laurel Canyon and become a rock star, right?
And because they have all the connections, of course, that's what happened.
And you want to know why Neil Young and Joni Mitchell both came out haranguing people for not doing the you-know-what?
Well, it's because they were part of that whole scene.
They were all part of it.
They were brought in on it.
None of it was fake.
It was a fake rebellion created by the CIA MKUltra program to make it think that we had some kind of big rebellion going on.
But they were the children of the elites themselves that were doing the rebellion.
Bob Dylan was a really wealthy rich kid.
Leonard Cohen was a really wealthy rich kid.
They were all really wealthy.
Perfect controlled opposition is what you're talking about.
Exactly!
And there's a famous picture, by the way, I'm sure it's still out on the internet, although it may be cleaned up, of Leonard Cohen at the Montreal University, where they did the CIA experiments.
I'm forgetting the name of it.
McGill.
Leonard Cohen at McGill University in an MK Ultra experiment, and he's completely covered with Bandages, and he's got electrodes in his head and stuff, and he's like a 17-year-old Leonard Cohen being put through an MKUltra program by the CIA, who were famous.
What's his name?
Cameron.
Ewan Cameron's experiments up at McGill University.
And they did it in Canada because CIA wasn't allowed to do things inside the United States.
So they just, okay, we'll take it up to Montreal and do it.
And so the whole... I also piloted a Monroe Institute, by the way, but...
Except that they did do things.
Are you going to mention Charles Manson?
Yeah, Charles Manson, when he was at the Haight-Ashbury Medical Clinic, Sidney Gottlieb had an office in the same building!
He was going to the Haight-Ashbury Medical Clinic every day, Charlie Manson was.
And Sidney Gottlieb had an office upstairs, the guy who ran the MKUltra program.
Supposedly, the murder, Sharon Tate murder, happened, I believe, in Laurel Canyon.
And all those players were all, you know, MKUltra victims.
And there's also more.
It has to do with, since you brought it up, the... God, what is it called?
It's in San Francisco, you know, the tower and the whole base there atop of... Oh, begins with a P. The military base where Michael Aquino ran.
Yes, exactly.
So run by an incredible satanist who's a military man as well and basically my witness Captain Mark Richards has talked about that and if you, you know, late at night if you're in the Fisherman's Wharf area of San Francisco you will see MKUltra at work even today.
It's incredible the number of zombies walking around and crazies In that area and this does all go back to the Letterman Hospital as well and the victims came out of that.
The whole place had to be burned down apparently because they'd unleashed so many demons and horrible stuff according to Mark Richards that they burned it down to get rid of them at a certain point or try to.
You're talking about the Presidio.
Presidio, yeah.
Presidio, yeah.
So, we're talking like major, major MKUltra.
Right.
It's almost as if they use San Francisco as their testing ground.
Yes.
Because the Sibbenese Liberation Army was MKUltra.
They came out of San... Jim Jones came out of San Francisco.
He was running an MKUltra thing at Jonestown.
If you want to read an incredible book, read Was Jonestown A CIA medical experiment by an Oxford professor.
The murders of Moscone and Harvey Milk appeared to be a part of an MKUltra program and it looks as if Manson again and so what was the early MKUltra program in the 50s?
It was bomb you with acid, fill you up with new age homonyms and then make you into a mind control, then you go out and kill, right?
Well, that's what Charlie Manson did.
He bombed the girls with acid.
He filled them with new age bullshit.
And then they went out and they killed for him.
But also Alfred Hitchcock.
And I forget the name of the movie, but it's with the famous actress Kim, whatever her name is, Anyway, it's all filmed in that area of San Francisco.
And then... The birds?
No, it's not.
It's not that.
It's the one with the spiral staircase.
Oh, you're talking about one of the best films ever made.
Yeah.
Vertigo.
Yeah, Vertigo.
Yeah.
Anyway, I love that movie, and that's like a total MKUltra.
And so is Kim Novak, you know, the actress.
She was MKUltra'd, and a lot of those actresses were back in the day, of course.
Still are.
Yeah.
Oh my god, everybody's head just blew up in there.
I'm following the comments.
Speaking of movies also, you talked about the Tate Murders.
Let's go back to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I don't know how much you want to get into here.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Day first.
Day first.
This was a few days at the top of Laurel Canyon.
I just don't want to forget it.
That's an E.T.
base that actually has, they were discovering these little E.T.
Maybe they were toys, I don't know.
But I can also tell you that Jordan Maxwell told me that he met this super mogul who lived at the top of Laurel Canyon and had this incredible view of everything.
He thinks he ran the world.
I don't know if he did or not.
Jordan could talk about that.
Yeah, he had a secret driveway that was a hologram and it looked like it was just bushes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, so let's talk about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Just a sec, Jay.
Hold on.
So, where are we?
We're now into the show.
I have quite a few things.
We might have to do a part two, guys.
This is exciting and I just want to follow with the energy here.
So, we're going to stay on the movie track for a second.
Let me bring back up Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Now, Jay, You kind of trolled Quentin Tarantino to come on the show here to talk about this quip technology you're referring to in the JFK X documentary.
Now, as it pertains to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood here, MKUltra, Where do you want to go with this, and what do you want to bring to the attention of the audience here today?
Alright, so I am going to do a complete breakdown of Quentin Tarantino's films.
I'm right in the middle of it, and it's going to destroy Quentin Tarantino's career, probably.
If he has one, maybe that's why he's retiring after this last movie he's making, which sounds really good, by the way.
What I believe happened is after Kill Bill, what happens is that when you're in Hollywood and you make a bunch of good movies, you get talked to.
They come, they say, hey, you know, Quentin, you're really talented and we need your talent to do certain things and we'll pay a lot of money and all that.
It happens.
So Kill Bill was, in my point of view, the last movie that Quentin Tarantino made that was not propaganda.
Django, Inglorious Bastards, all of those.
Maybe The Hateful Eight wasn't.
That was a terrible film, but his worst film.
But I don't think that was so much propaganda, although it was a little bit kind of trying to get a civil war going propaganda in there.
And so when I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I was like, OK, what's he got?
You know, he better sign this.
I knew it was about the Manson murderers.
I'd been told that.
So I thought, well, OK.
He's been assigned this.
And what he does in his propaganda movies is he always flips the assigned propaganda on its side.
So he's assigned a movie to make a group of Jews fight the Nazis, right?
But if you watch Inglourious Basterds, you realize that it's actually Brad Pitt that's doing all the work.
Anyway, so he gets assigned to, hey, Quentin, make a movie about the Manson murders, right?
He says, OK, OK.
So he makes a movie about the Manson murders, but he switched it at the end.
And so there is no Manson murders.
Brad Pitt beats up.
I mean, I literally almost puked.
I was laughing so hard at that ending.
And so, you know, I salute you, Quentin.
I know you're in a tough thing here where you're top director in Hollywood and you have to turn out propaganda, but you did manage to turn that propaganda on its head and not have to Show us the bullshit version.
I love the flamethrower scene in the pool with DiCaprio.
I was just like, what the hell am I watching?
It was so good.
I personally think it's his best movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's such a great sit down.
It's slow.
Like it's just like it kind of envelops you for a couple of hours.
You're just enthralled by the whole thing.
The Margo is great.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Kerry, any thoughts on what Quentin Tarantino may or may not have been trying to do with this film and whether or not he was flipping it on its head here, the propaganda he was assigned through this movie?
No, at a certain point I stopped watching his movies because I got sick of them and I got sick of his attitude being so, I don't know, super violent.
I can tell you that he went into this idea, the Japanese and even Oriental idea, of how they view death.
And it's also, by the way, been incorporated by the Illuminati into their philosophy.
So the idea is Walking the walk as to the idea that we are actually, you know, souls having material existence and that we can return again again.
So their attitude is they can kill anybody, anytime, anywhere because they'll just come back.
And so death is not real.
Okay, that's how they view it.
And that's why Quentin goes to such an extent
to use violence in his depiction of death and that's it's kind of like you think of it as um a zen cone if you will in a movie setting okay so the idea is if you really believe this i mean really believe you're a spirit having a material existence then nothing is out of you know the pocket nothing is is is you know too too much it's
It's kind of a sick, twisted way that the Illuminati rationalized the way they look at humanity and life in general, by the way.
So if you can wrap your mind around it, I know there are people that just can't, but just saying, this is what's going on.
I happened to work in the movie business back in the day when Quentin vs. Scott is starting and all of that and I was doing development in a small, low-budget film company and I worked with my, sort of, this guy who was one of his producers, just happened to be.
So, you know, I knew about Quentin way back a long time ago.
I'd love to do another show with you, Jay and Kerry, maybe on this reincarnation stuff, because Jay, what was that book?
The Red Exiler of Life?
The Red Lion.
The Red Lion thing, yeah.
Well, I'll schedule that on my board here.
I'll get you guys back on for that, because that's also a fabulous conversation on how also the royals use a lot of this technology.
Okay, so in this whole idea of movie set fake realities, we cannot do a show without talking about the moon landings.
So one picture here that you sent me for this part of the conversation here, Jay, set this one up.
And again, we could do a four hour show on this.
You and I have already done some of the cubic geek roads that people can find here on our beyondmystic.net site.
But let's get to this specific picture here and why you brought it up, Jay.
All right, so this is the most famous Apollo 11 picture.
Neil Armstrong snapped this of Buzz Aldrin.
You can see Neil in the helmet visor snapping the picture.
This picture here is literally impossible.
Anyone who's a photographer knows it.
There's only one source of light on the Moon, and that's the Sun.
There's no shadows, there's no trees, there's no clouds.
This is an example of Stanley Kubrick absolutely just Not being able to hold it back.
So he's got the dancing lighting, he's got shadow play going.
None of this could happen on the moon.
There could be none of this.
There could be no fall off, no light fall off, no shadows, no nothing.
The fact that this is the most iconic photograph when it is absolutely impossible.
But If you are an aficionado of Stanley Kubrick and you know how he lights his stuff, that is Stanley Kubrick right there.
That is the best lighting you could have, even though it's impossible on the map.
Fascinating.
And, again, we could talk about the moon landing stuff for hours and hours.
Kerry, point of view on the picture itself or what you know also of Stanley Kubrick and perhaps how Eyes Wide Shut was an homage to what he wanted to actually bring to humanity.
He thought he could do anything he wanted after having done some of this previous work for the intelligence agencies.
What do you want to share here before we go too far, Kerry?
Okay, but the trouble is that I don't agree with this idea that it was only faked.
So, yes.
I didn't say it was only faked.
No, no, no.
They didn't say it's only faked.
He said there's more.
Okay, I'm not talking about anybody here because I don't know your extent of your points of view.
Okay.
What I'm saying is that a lot of people out there, I get all kinds of people writing to me over the years because I have interviewed so many people about the Secret Space Program.
And a lot of people have these ideas that we never went to the moon, but we did, but we had quote-unquote help.
And that's absolutely what happened.
So on the one hand it was faked because not only did we have help but they knew what they were going to face on the moon and it's still happening.
They're still shooting down our spacecraft or other countries spacecraft that try to approach the moon and same with Mars.
And so these these sort of you might think these people are completely No you can't.
No you can't.
Nope.
as space engineers, because they can't get a craft to land on any of these, our bases up there and so on and so forth.
So just saying now I could say that, yes, he faked it here on earth or he faked it on the moon because you can bring a camera up there and fake it.
However you want.
Nope.
You cannot take a photograph on the moon.
There's too much radiation.
That's not true.
No, you cannot.
It's impossible.
There are lies upon lies upon lies.
It's impossible to take a picture on the Moon.
You can't even take a picture at 60,000 feet above the Earth.
The Moon is not what you think.
It's completely fogged.
And neither is Mars, okay?
And you probably don't subscribe to this idea, okay?
But I have whistleblower testimony going back 19 years.
Which idea is that, Carrie?
On this subject.
You have decided that William Tompkins was lying.
Is that what you have decided?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
William Tompkins got Mike Sala passed on a whole bunch of disinformation to William Tompkins from the beginning.
I know the whole story.
William Tompkins, he took advantage of a 95 year old man.
It was shameful.
Sorry.
Okay, I don't happen to agree, but that's okay.
I spent probably 300 hours with Mr. Tompkins and he told me everything.
We were the only people, by the way, that gave him any money.
Everybody interviewed Bill Tompkins and never gave him any money.
I gave him $10,000 because I felt so sorry for him.
I understand.
Okay, hold on a second here.
So we can agree to disagree on some of this information, but Carrie, what you're saying about the pictures on the moon, and Jay, just bear with us for a moment here too.
Is it possible, hold on Carrie, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Is it possible that unlike what we were told, there is an atmosphere on the moon Is it possible that you could take a picture on the moon if you're inside one of these domes, preventing some of the radiations that would be affecting some of this camera film and all that stuff?
Are there possibilities there in your mind, Jay, where you can come to a conclusion where, okay, maybe this could have also have been faked on the moon?
I think this is what...
It's hypothetical.
I'm just throwing it.
I don't care one way or the other, to be honest.
But it is clear that we have a complete disagreement on whether we have bases on the Moon and Mars.
I don't disagree.
I never said that.
I don't disagree.
I think we probably do have a base on the Moon.
I think we probably have a base on Mars.
It's just about a photograph.
It doesn't matter.
I've never even had any time or thought I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, Jay.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on, Carrie.
Hold on, Carrie.
I'm a technology person.
Hold on, Carrie.
I think what Jay's saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, Jay, is that you're recognizing as a filmmaker and as a studied filmmaker of Kubrick, that he is telling you something here with this picture.
Sure.
The lighting and the setup.
Okay, we're on the same page on that one.
Okay, so the mood is a hot topic, of course.
Cliff High and I are going to be doing the part two of the Sci-Fi World Lunacy, I believe he said in March, so we're letting some time pass here between the first episode we did two months ago.
We do know from Bruce Ezold's work that they are putting some kind of smoke or something on the surface to obfuscate the things that are there.
We know that.
I don't know if that's an atmosphere.
I think that's just a kind of a fake-out fashion.
To just, you know, they're pouring it out.
He's even got the machines that show the smoke coming out.
So we know that they're doing something, but it's not really an atmosphere.
It's not breathable.
You can't walk around in it.
And it's not thick enough to stop the radiation.
So, you've still got serious radiation problems.
Even at 60,000 feet, F-15 pilots, you know, they're going to die young.
They already know it, because they're getting so much radiation, and they're still not even in low orbit.
I talked to Pinky Nelson, an astronaut who was in the space shuttle, and he said that the radiation was piercing his eyes, that he would see flashes all the time.
Hold on, Carrie, just a second here.
We want to hear you, but when you guys are speaking together, the audience can't hear you.
So first, let me bring in the links to Bruce Diesel's new Twitter channel, guys.
Bruce has been on our show many times, and he's capturing really cool stuff as of late, including some really cool explosions on the moon.
Diesel's also moving from ship to ship on the moon's surface and in the atmosphere.
Guys, go check it out.
I'm going to have him back on the show here very shortly.
Gary, some of your counterpoints here to all of this.
I interviewed Bruce Seasall years ago.
John Leonard Walson is doing the same thing and probably before Bruce Seasall did it.
So his photograph...
And they've been on, well I think, I know that John Lennar Walson has been on Rents years and years and years ago with his amazing photographs, not just of the moon, but of craft near the sun, etc.
Which match, by the way, the drawings that William Tompkins did.
So, yes, I mean, I don't, I think everything is open to interpretation and understanding, and I think there are lies also, I know you're going to go crazy over this, but about what is the nature of radiation, okay, and what does it do to the human body, and what is... What does it do to Bill?
What is part of the situation?
Because there was a scientist who put radiation into his pool, swam in it every day, and had no effects.
Okay?
He's passed on since then.
You know, whatever you want to say.
So all I'm telling you is that I have investigated this as well.
Radiation, cancer, that whole, you know, that whole composite of nonsense is just as sick and suspect as everything else.
You have to look at reality.
It is called the unbearable lightness of being.
It is one of the best phrases, and that was a movie one time, but it's also a great way to start to pull apart what we call reality, which isn't real at all, okay?
Any more than I'm real right now, and Jay's real, and this table is real.
It's all open to interpretation, to being actually muted, to being changed, immutable.
It's all open to interpretation, and how your brain views it It's going to affect your body in a big way.
So, I'm just saying, you don't have to listen to me.
You think I'm bullshit?
I don't care.
I'm telling you my point of view.
I have a piece of the stage here to do so.
Yeah, and nobody's saying you're bullshit.
We're just having difference of opinions, Carrie, and I appreciate yours.
And if you look at scientists in the last couple of months, too, they're suggesting that perhaps we actually do live in a matrix, going to Carrie's point here, that we're not exactly in the reality we think we are.
Kerry, let's move into some of the points that you brought up also.
We've talked about JFK.
We can go back to JFK Jr.
here in a second, but I wanted to move the needle forward here on this idea of the deep fakes.
Now, you wrote this article here on ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
Let me bring the link to that also here in the Rumble chat for the audience.
Set this up here because this is a big part of the conversation moving forward.
We've talked about some of the old technologies that was used in the past to manipulate us, to obfuscate, to create this false narrative, but there's more and more technology now being brought to bear to that same objective.
And some of it we perhaps don't even understand yet and how it's affecting us.
So let's talk about these deepfakes here as it's prepared in your article, Kerry.
Okay so I started an investigation into a series that is a British series and by the way as everyone knows you know one of the the pet games that Illuminati like to tell do is tell you in advance before they do something and they feel that absolves them of you might say karmic debt gets them out from under any kind of blame game etc which is questionable but nonetheless that's how they view it okay from uh
Phenomenology point of view.
Okay.
Yin versus yang and it gets quite deep.
So fast forward to this situation.
So there is a British series.
It's called The Capture or Capture.
I think The Capture and you can watch it.
It's still online.
Um, I think you can watch it while you can rent it on Amazon.
And I think it might either be on Amazon or some other channel.
I can't remember which.
And it's well worth watching because it is depicting what is happening in our world today with newscasting, with everything basically, and how they can fake things in real time.
That's what it's about.
Okay?
So it is about the fact that, okay, we're having a discussion here, but they could put words in my mouth that I never said, make it look completely smooth, And basically, I could say the opposite of what I'm saying right now.
Okay, so when we look in the future, back from history, to these times, the trouble is going to be whether they're viewing a deepfake, just as we're viewing the Kennedy assassination, right?
And they're going to view our times and they may also be given Completely wrong information as victory, you know, the history goes to the victors as to this description, at least it has so far.
So when you look at my article, you'll see that I analyzed that and then also the fact that in that series, they based the entire series on what's called Cambridge Analytica and how it was used in the Trump
When he ran for president in 2016 and I basically describe how it is used in the in the TV series and exposed because they found out a number of things and it's actually depicted very well in this the capture.
And so you don't even have to I mean, you can read my article put it together and then go watch it.
Or you can just go watch it and then read my article, however you want to do it.
But it is absolutely fascinating and I wrote this article.
I never made a video, which of course you know I do videos normally.
But I wrote the article and they took down my website for six days.
Attack after attack after attack.
It was insane what they did over this article.
So they didn't like the fact that I put these things together with deep fakes.
And what's going on now?
You were telling the audience how the magic trick was being performed.
Yeah, and it's really important, okay?
So, you know, you need to be able to understand where is the technology now?
And we haven't even touched clones, okay, and cloning.
So this is a whole nother aspect of what's going on now and why the White Hats because I study this because in part I wanted to break down what the White Hats are really doing versus what they say they're doing and what kind of game is being played between the dark side and the light side and so on and so forth.
So I'm always analyzing everything from these standpoints and that's what my article is all about.
Well, thank you.
And I appreciate that because this is where we're going.
It's going to be even harder for us.
Like, as we were saying at the beginning of the show, it's hard for them also to fool us because we're getting smarter to these tactics.
We're awakening to all this.
But what we're not getting is all the technology maybe that we are not understanding yet that is new and perhaps manipulating us in other ways.
This was also the plot line in this last Mission Impossible movie.
Jay, your thoughts on this, how this relates to the Cambridge Analytica and how we're getting into this era of time now where we don't even know what we're looking at.
In some cases, it's easy to spot their fake masks.
But in some of our cases here, we might be treated to these deep fakes, as Gary was saying.
And I'm worried about, I brought up a picture earlier, it's on my screen somewhere, about this Epstein list fallout.
At some point here, we're talking about, and many people have warned us, that we might see fakes here in order to basically be proven a fake afterwards to debunk the whole story and get all of these people off the hook.
So we have to be very careful moving forward on looking at these videos and asserting whether or not they're true or not.
Jay, what are your thoughts on all of this and where the technology is going?
I think that we're going to just have to disregard everything pretty soon that we see.
We're just going to say that it's all fake.
And that's not actually going to help the powers that be, because they need to manipulate us.
And if we all now think that everything we're looking at is a manipulation, which it's going to be, then they've lost a huge weapon in their arsenal.
So I'm not sure this is going to be all that good for them.
It'll be good for filmmakers, I'll tell you that.
But, you know, we're at the stage right now where...
The system's going to fly apart, and there's nothing that we can do to stop it, and they know it.
There's a new book, The Great Taking, that's out, and the guy concludes the book that the reason that they're trying to steal everything from everybody on Earth is because they're in a massive failure, and that they're about to hit the wall.
And that's why they're doing what they're doing.
And so I don't think any of this is going to matter pretty soon.
I think that we're heading towards a whole different kind of reality because we're moving out of the Kali Yuga.
And so we can't really tell.
I personally, I'm not afraid of AI.
I used to program.
I know how computers work.
And I can tell you, Computer is never going to gain consciousness, period.
Computer is just a really fast calculator.
So I'm not really worried about that.
And the other thing is that the AI has to take its art from stuff that already exists.
So we're going to be able to see The art that already exists in the fakery.
The origins of it all, you mean.
Finding the origins, right.
And where it's probably going is, say, I create a work of art, a photograph, a drawing or something, I'm going to put a digital attachment that if that piece of art or work is used anywhere, I get paid.
All right, this is where this is all going to go.
So, they're going to move to this place where if AI starts stealing artwork from everybody, well, they're going to have to pay for it.
They're not going to be able to just take it.
You bring up a good point there about tokenizing artwork and how that's going to be permeated through... And writing!
Yeah, that's a good point.
Everything will be tokenized.
It'll have a secret code to it and we'll be able to know where everything came from.
And we'll be able to tell whether this is a BS that we just watched or not.
You just run it through a software program and we'll be able to tell you where all the pieces came from and everything.
So, they think that they got this thing in the bag, but they don't.
Maybe I'll eventually get paid for all those pay-per-views I did that people copied and put for free on YouTube.
Let me bring this up.
So guys, just for the normies out there who are just like their heads are blown off here, I just want to reassure you that everything is fine here.
Reuters just put out this fact that I debunked Talking of course, the fake White House movies.
Let me play some of those clips here.
They were suggesting that a lot of this was made in studio, not in the actual White House.
I did a whole decode of this last year.
I think it was deleted from the YouTube channel also, but fascinating stuff nonetheless.
And of course, Mr. Biden, on whether or not he was the Balchenian that we saw in the Men in Black series here, with this weird wardrobe or mask malfunction.
Let's talk about that.
That's the obvious stuff that we're seeing right now, and there's probably, Kerry, a reason why it's obvious.
They're showing us the fake masks of Kamala Harris, of Joe Biden, all this.
This is something different now.
This is them letting us know, tip of the hat here to the people who are paying attention, that something is indeed very fake.
Here, they're not necessarily trying to ruse you, but they're trying to wake you to perhaps a strategy A bigger overall strategy of the White Hats behind the scenes.
Let's talk about that before we end the show here today.
What are your thoughts on where all that is going and how perhaps some of these deepfakes might come in, wreck their plans, so to speak, here moving forward in this fight for the narrative.
Gary.
Okay, well, let me just say that I disagree with Jay in regard to AI.
And AI is not reliant on computers.
That's very old-fashioned thinking.
And that AI actually can ride on not only the Oort cloud, for example, but also humans.
And one of the things that I talked to Mark Richards quite extensively about, so I interviewed him Twelve times over the past five years, and that was in person, in prison, at the Solano Prison in Northern California.
And his ex-wife was there.
He's framed for a murder he didn't commit.
Actually, a pedophile was killed.
He's got three young guys.
We're responsible.
One of those guys, one was definitely an asset of the state.
The other one, not so sure about, and the one who is also was in prison in the same prison as Mark Richards, they were involved in the actual murder.
And he had been molested by a pedophile when he was young.
If you look into the record, and I put all of this on my website, so it's a very extensive case.
Can I ask you a question then?
Because after Corey Goode...
Don't we want to make sure that people who are just saying things without evidence get checked?
Because we know that he was up on trial and under the threat of perjury going to jail.
He copped that everything that he said was not true.
I don't think we should believe anything that anybody says if they don't present evidence.
If you want to believe, you can believe.
I don't want to believe.
I want evidence.
Okay, fine.
You're going to believe evidence.
You're going to believe something.
The thing is that... Not hearsay.
I just want to bring for the attention of the audience, too.
They can go and actually watch the Corey Goode deposition in which what Jay is saying here now.
He admitted to inventing a lot of this stuff.
Except I've been saying to Corey Goode that he's lying about lying.
Okay?
And you've got to understand, I have investigated these stories for the past 20 years.
You interviewed Corey Goode.
You interviewed Corey Goode.
No, I didn't.
You didn't?
No, he threatened me.
As a matter of fact, tried to get my YouTube channel taken down.
You don't know the backstory.
I don't.
Let me move on and answer the question I've been asked.
All right.
So all I can tell you is that AI is way more advanced than you think, and that you're missing the boat.
And you sound like Cliff High because he likes to say these kinds of things about it.
We're both programmers.
In a computer.
We both program computers.
Yeah, but apparently not the great ones.
Okay, so anyway, all I'm trying to tell you is that, you know, it doesn't matter to me whether you believe me, agree with me, or anything else, okay?
All I have to write, excuse me, to state my opinion and my research can back up what I'm saying.
I have done a tremendous amount of work investigating AI and I can also tell you I just made a video last night that goes into this to some degree so you could also watch that if you're interested but I can tell you that several of my top witnesses have talked about an AI a single AI that's running this planet okay and so this is very interesting and it gets goes beyond that and you have to watch those interviews and
Come to your own conclusions.
You know, it's a free country.
It's just like testimony in a trial.
- Hold on Jay, hold on Jay. - It's just like testimony in a trial.
A witness testimony-- - Carrie, if you don't understand-- - They talk to somebody on a stand and they put their hand on the Bible that is completely degraded and is a false story of the real history of Jesus, et cetera.
It's a false book and it's filled with lies.
It's all bullshit and the courts are also completely compromised.
And I can tell you that Cory Bookgood is probably lying about lying.
But that's my opinion and I have a right to state it, okay?
And I don't give a fuck whether you agree with me.
Let's move on.
What was the rest of the question or have I answered it substantially?
Okay, so hold on a second here.
I wasn't asking you about AI, but since you brought that up... No, but I appreciate you added your point of view, and that's why I asked you to come on the show, to bring your point of view.
Thank you.
No problem.
And for the folks who are wondering now what Cliff Hyatt was talking about, he just started a new series on his BitChute.
You guys can go see that as well, and make your own mind as to what perhaps is going on with the AI there.
Now, on top of what Carrie was just saying, I totally agree with as well, the whole idea of swearing on the book, on the Bible, during a court case, that's all about, of course— How about drinking the blood of Jesus while you're at it and not being a Satanist?
Well, yeah, we got into that here in this whole podcast here, The Angels and the Great Deceptionists post.
If you haven't seen the episode Jay and I put together, please do go watch that out.
And also this one here with Paul Wallace, part three here of this series.
Absolutely amazing also on all of this crazy stuff we don't understand about the Bible.
So all of that information is coming to the surface as well.
And Kerry, you've done a job also trying to educate people on this whole front as well.
So I thank you for that.
The question was, Kerry, where we go from here in terms of Dealing with the deep fakes and the discernments that humans are going to have to develop, maybe in very short order here, to continue... Jay's point of view was that perhaps the Great Taking is going to, you know, flip the table on all of this and we won't get to the deep fakes here.
That was, I understood, one of his points of view.
But if we do go the route and they get these deepfakes out of the system here to manipulate or to retake control of the narrative, what do humans need to do here to understand and to exercise that discernment so that we don't fall in those traps here of these deepfakes coming out?
Well, basically you need to go inside, listen with them, And meditate.
And you also need to develop your psychic abilities, which I have done.
And then you need to test yourself and see if the things that you see, whether you remote view them or use your other psychic abilities, clear audience, audience, however you say it, Whether you've ever had these experiences and whether the things that you actually dream or see in visions or whatever come true or happen in this reality, this version of reality.
And by the way, there are so many different versions of reality happening simultaneously.
If you've ever read the Seth books by Jane Roberts, you understand what I'm talking about.
So but getting it down to like normal so-called everyday reality this is the bottom line is that as you expand your consciousness you become aware of all these different levels of reality what things are happening in this one as opposed to other ones and how you can be used and abused by the powers that be and by even friends and neighbors to You know, think the wrong things.
And you know, we have lived for a very long time now in a male-dominated culture and women are starting to speak.
Like moi.
And so therefore, I think that women are going to be coming to the fore more and more, and men are going to have to sit back and listen for change.
And we come with a completely different perception, set of perceptions, of what is so-called reality.
So I think that humans in general are going to benefit From women speaking out as well as men and hearing both sides and going forward.
I think that's a great point.
I mean, if you look at my channel for the last three years, I've been trying to give the voice to a lot of these divine feminine oracles who, for lack of better terms, might be reincarnated witches who've been hunted and burnt in past lives.
And so I agree with you that we need to have a better balance here in our conversation, Kerry.
So each and every one of you, first of all, thank you for being on the show.
Thank you for the preparation you guys brought in.
Thank you for the The honesty and the feistiness and the argumentation, all healthy, of course, on this show.
We all appreciate different points of views, and that's the whole point here of understanding, perhaps, the bigger picture of what is happening in our world.
So, before I leave, I want to ask both of you, first of all, what's coming up on your websites here?
Let me bring up yours first here, Kerry, on projectchemlabportal.com.
How can we support you there?
And what are the interviews here that are coming up that you want to share with the audience members here in terms of your work moving forward here on Project Camelot?
Well I just want to say in summation just listen to your heart and your mind and what resonates and learn to tune into that and you'll be able to discern the real truth behind the deep fakes etc etc.
So you know actually humans have had to become psychic and we are psychic in order to survive and if you go back through the centuries The ones who actually could see in advance of where they were, whether it just be something right around the corner, are the ones that survived.
So this is what we're really honed into.
This is where our abilities are really sort of advancing at this time, with every human starting to realize just how psychic they are.
And as far as my website, you know, You'll see there's a note at the very top because when I started investigating and talking to Jay about the Kennedy assassination, my entire website was taken down and I was under attack for a good seven or eight days.
And they had to rebuild the entire thing again.
And so we are back now.
Thank God and thanks to my webmaster.
Tommy.
And I can say that my most recent interviews are just on the front page of the website, usually in chronological order.
But you can also go to Rumble, where I put all my latest videos.
And also Odyssey.com, which when I was deleted overnight from YouTube, all of my videos went on to Odyssey.
Not all, but a good portion of them around just under 900.
So I've done thousands, probably around 2,000 interviews at this point and I continue to do about three shows a week.
Sometimes I'm interviewed and sometimes I interview the person.
So I guess it's self-explanatory and it's ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
I love it.
Thank you so much, Kerry.
So guys, at projectcamelotportal.com, you can also find her book, The Rebel Gene, here on Amazon.
I have the links in the description box below.
Sorry, I lost the page there as we were scrolling through.
And I wanted to share with you all guys, before we go also, Kerry's interview with Michael Schradt, she just produced last week.
Fascinating interview.
And I've asked also now Michael Schradt to come on the show here to share some of his knowledge.
and some of his great finding in his book, The Dark File.
So hopefully we can put that on the schedule for you guys.
That was just a placeholder date there for the interview request.
So we'll get back to that as soon as we can.
Thank you so much, Kerry, for all your work today and your presence.
Jay, you started the show with saying that it's time now We can't wait for this anymore.
The truth has to come out, and people have to say what they have to say, and I really appreciate that.
I really enjoyed this interview, and I really enjoyed, first of all, the documentary you just put out, the JFK Solving the Crime of the Century.
But in that interview I did with you on this, you said that you're coming up with two or three more films this year.
Share that with the audience members.
What's coming up, and why are you so driven to share a lot of these truths here to the audience?
Well, I just, I think that I, I think I have, you know, just certain talents that I just need to get out now before, because I'm getting old and getting aging and I want to make sure that I get a bunch of this out before I go.
And I think it's really important, so I'm deconstructing.
The next one is on the MKUltra program, and then the next one is on pop culture.
I'm going to deconstruct pop culture and show you how MKUltra moved its way into pop culture in the 60s and 70s and 80s, and how now we are just in a constant MKUltra program.
100%.
They invented it in the 1950s, they tested it in the 1960s, and they implemented it in the 1970s.
And that's basically the series of films that's going to show you how they did it, the mechanisms, and all the rest.
Awesome.
I can't wait for that.
And when you're ready, let me know and I'll help you put that out to the audience members.
Before we go too, also, I want to ask you, last time you were on the show, you talked about this UAP detector that you were going to install on your house and triangulate with a couple other friends.
Have you had some telemetry data that you want to share?
Where's the experience at right now?
Well, we're in the middle of setting it up.
It's really complicated.
I found out from the guy who's helping me put it in that these were actually invented for marijuana growers.
They put them in their fields so they can watch 360 degrees, see if anybody's stealing their marijuana.
And he said, are you a marijuana grower?
No, no, no.
I'm doing it to watch TV.
Love it.
I'll tell you when we get it in.
It'll be in next week.
Okay, okay.
Well, I'm excited for that.
Let me know, guys.
And thank you so much again, Jay.
Thank you so much, Kiri.
I love this conversation.
And judging by the comments in the chat too, everybody loved this show today.
Hopefully we can do a part two and we talk about reincarnation and that technology.
A process moving forward.
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