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Jan. 16, 2024 - Project Camelot
01:27:16
JAY WEIDNER : JFK X THE DOCUMENTARY INTERVIEW BY KERRY CASSIDY
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So this is all about preparedness.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
So we were asking Jay what his sort of inspiration, I think you might say, was.
So can you kind of start, you know, we got that you got a young guy to come and mentor him and you wanted to make a film and you put it together really quickly, but then you were saying that actually your inspiration was quite interesting regarding the community and actually what you came up with too.
Yeah, so I said that I was bothered by the fact that we were freely talking about how events were clearly not what they seem to be in the news, I mean, and that some events clearly were faked.
And then people who had said these things got sued, heavily sued.
I think we know what I'm talking about here.
And the whole community froze up, and now we can't talk about it anymore.
And so, I chose an event that happened 60 years ago.
Probably everybody's dead, or most of the people involved are dead, and presented it to show you that, no, no, no, they've been faking events for a long time, and, you know, what I would love to do someday is get a group of really high intellectual people and examine other events and see what's going on here, because I suspect that
People faking their deaths is a lot more common than we think.
I don't think you can get out of the mafia that runs everything.
You can't quit.
That's what—just ask Nancy Pelosi.
You can't quit.
You've got to be in there forever.
You say, I'm going to quit.
No, you're not.
Yes, I am.
No, you're not.
We've vested in you.
You can't go anywhere.
So then you start thinking of other routes, and I'm going to suspect That there's even a clandestine corporation somewhere, probably on the dark web, where they'll do all of it for you.
In other words, they'll show you how to change your accounts, and move your money, and get you a place, and all the things, and just ask Jeffrey Epstein.
Well, this gets into quite a deep story, but I'm just going to bring something on the screen here that I don't know if you know about this guy, but he's kind of a fun, interesting man.
And there is a faker out there, so don't get the wrong idea and go to the wrong guy, because there's a wrong guy on Twitter faking him.
So he calls himself the real police chief, In this case, the chief.
But his website is called buymeacoffee.com slash truther.
And he is out there.
If you sign up, you get his inside intel.
About who has been said to be, you know, a lot of people are saying, like, recently Lloyd Austin, I think, is one of the latest and he is supposedly sick with cancer, blah, blah, blah.
But the reality is the White Hats have.
uh brought him under the fold uh taking him off the scene uh they may have substituted a fake or a double or a clone and that's very common now and uh this guy has sort of some of the in track he's not the only one with the inside track but he's one of them so i just wanted to draw people's attention to that and i hope i can get back to the minor okay yeah
So anyway, that's and I interviewed him and I asked him every question under the sun.
And he was a really good sport and he lives in Colorado.
He was the ex police chief of police of Colorado.
Turns out he's a MAGA supporter and so he's doing this as sort of a labor of love among other things.
So just want to give him a plug there and also say that this is very common right now and that the White Hats are just as culpable and involved as the Dark.
So this is what we get, and this has been going on with, as you know, I'm sure you know, Rockstars, Elvis, Jim Morrison.
Sean David Morton said he talked to Jim Morrison on the phone.
He's got an inside contact, put him in touch with him.
He lives in the Pacific Northwest.
Jim Morrison told me that Jim Morrison was living in New Orleans in the early 70s.
He was in the gay community.
Yeah, okay.
And you know, this is what we're talking about.
So I am totally hot on this trail.
And we know that Trump is also, you know, there's rumors saying, oh, he's dead or whatever, but no, he's in hiding.
In NORAD is my theory, and also that there are lots of Trump doubles out there, and those are pretty easy to distinguish.
I don't think that's rocket science.
And we know Biden, fake Bidens, are all over the place, you know, with masks that are coming off, half coming off, you know, around the neck area and all that, and actors playing him.
I mean, it's notorious right now.
So I think this is right in keeping with that, and I'm so glad you were inspired by all that.
So that's great to hear.
Now I want to know... Go ahead.
Well, okay, by the way, we could do five hours just on this subject.
Yes, absolutely.
I mean, and I'm willing to, I'm actually willing to, I, we're going to have a big audience for this Jay, assuming it's working.
Okay.
And if not, it'll go on my everything.
But I want to say the minute I went on two shows on Thursday, started talking about your documentary and the ins and outs of Trump being alive and whether he might be using some of these techniques himself and so on and so forth, and the idea that presidential doubles I think it's common knowledge, okay?
I thought it was common knowledge, I don't know, you know, 20 years ago, but I think it's not proven or something, and because it's so prolific right now, I think they're scared to death, and maybe that's part of the reason.
I also had a few comments about the Vatican's involvement in And the Kennedy assassination.
I mean, everyone's involved.
The CIA, the NSA, and this is all proven involvement, right?
And the mob, of course, and some people say Mossad.
I haven't gotten any direct witness on that yet, but I'm sure it's true.
And so on and so forth.
So, What I want to know, though, I want to drill down.
So you wanted to do this.
Somebody must have given you the squib idea.
I thought it might have been an intelligence person.
Did you come up with it on your own?
Yeah, what happened is, is that I'm a huge fan, first off, of Oliver Stone's film, JFK.
I could talk about that film for five hours.
And I was on the internet, on YouTube, investigating Oliver Stone's film, for some reason, ten years ago or so.
It was before I started at Gaia, so it had to be 2011.
I found an upload of Oliver Stone's fully restored Zebruder film.
That was up on YouTube, and it was from Oliver Stone's camp, from his company and group.
And I thought, oh wow, this is great!
So I watched it, and I saw the squib and everything else that I talk about in the film on that first viewing.
And I was like, almost fell out of my chair.
I was like, oh my god, you've got to be kidding me!
And I watched it again, and again, and again, and again, and then I went and I got My best friend, my wife's best friend, and my wife, and I sat them in front of my... I bought a copy.
What happened is that copy on YouTube disappeared about six weeks later and never came back.
So I went and bought a copy of a DVD of the Zapruder film, and I invited my friend and my wife's friend and my wife.
I sat them down on the couch, and I put it on, and I did exactly what we did in the movie JFK X. I sat and motioned them all the way through it, and when I got done, because I wanted to see If anybody saw it besides me, and when I got done, their jaws were like completely hanging open.
People were like, Oh my God!
Oh my God!
People were going over and over saying, Oh my God!
Oh my God!
And so, I knew that it had a big effect, but I didn't think the people were ready for it.
And I was working at Gaia.
I started working at Gaia right after that.
Didn't think my reputation could be sullied by tackling such a subject, you know, while I was working for a big corporation.
But so I really didn't do anything with the idea.
I just sat around thinking about it.
But then, like I said, I got when when that.
When that trial happened and the damage to the guy, just for saying a few innocent things about a certain event in Connecticut in 2012, it was like, are you kidding me?
Are you saying that we can't talk about this stuff anymore?
Okay, then damn you!
We're going to show you exactly what's going on!
And it's not over!
I'm making at least two more films that are going down the same exact deconstructing the reality that they have presented to us and showing you that what they have presented to us is just a long-term MKUltra operation that was in
In theory in the 1950s, it went out in small packets in the 1960s, and it was completely instituted across the board in the 1980s, and has been going ever since.
And I'm going to show you the seeds of how this was planted, and this is the first seed of how this was all done.
When you mean this, you're not just talking about the squib, you're talking about this idea of censorship.
This idea that they are using advanced techniques to convince us of a reality that isn't real, and we have to personally deconstruct that reality—and I'm going to in my next few films, because I think that each time we do that, then We are able to understand what's actually going on, and that's what I want more than anything else.
I want us to—I want it also to make it very difficult for them to pull these things off.
Now, what's really interesting is JFKx came out on Amazon Prime on July 11th.
And I had checked, as we were making the film, I'd gone through variety, you're in the movie business, you know, you go find out what's in production, right?
I wanted to see how many films were in production, it's the 60th anniversary, what competition I was up against, right, with my film and all that.
And it was like...
A desert.
It was like nothing.
I think there was one thing being made on Netflix or something.
Or no, it was Amazon.
The day Kennedy died, or something like that.
And I thought, well good, there's nobody, you know, I'm not gonna have any competition here on the 60th anniversary.
Which really didn't surprise me, because they really don't do anything about Kennedy anyway.
They never have about the Kennedy assassination.
Nobody ever does.
So we put the film out, and then all of a sudden, At least nine different documentaries were announced and were put into production, and about six are already out, and three or four more are all coming out, and I've watched them all, and every one of them is carefully designed to refute everything that I'm saying in JFKX, which tells me that I hit a sore spot somewhere.
Okay, but what is the date you're saying that your film came out?
July 11th.
July?
I mean, how is it that I thought it just came out?
I don't know, but it took a long time for anyone.
I could not get anybody to interview me.
Jeff Rents wouldn't interview me.
Oh, you didn't write to me.
I would have done it in a half second.
I wish I had.
It just skipped my mind.
I would have, actually.
Yeah.
Because you're much more open-minded.
So, you know, I've kind of got the freeze from everybody.
And the conspiracy community is really upset at me, as you might expect.
And writing me emails and calling me names.
Nobody wants to debate me, though.
They just want to call me names, and that's how I know that I might be on to something here.
And the film, as you know, the film asks questions that, frankly, no conspiracy person has really ever asked.
Like, why didn't the three networks that were in Dallas, ABC, CBS and NBC, send a guy down with a Bullock's camera to get the president, his rock star wife, you know, going through your central at lunchtime with a thousand people watching.
And then you could use that on your nightly news.
And but no, nobody was.
Obviously, they didn't want any cameras, but I bet they did.
I bet there are some hidden cameras that they definitely caught everything.
Now, I actually want to go even further than you've gone, and I'm going to run these ideas by you just to see what your thoughts are.
But I have a couple little points to make.
I actually consulted a person who's something of an expert on the Kennedy assassination.
You know, those people that read all the books and have all the details.
I'm not one of those.
So just freely saying, I am not an expert on the Kennedy assassination.
I don't pretend to be.
But in a certain sense, I come at it from a completely different angle.
I'm looking at it from the same way you are as it happens.
I am very interested right now.
In what you call deep fakes.
And I actually, the last time they took down my website, I did this whole Cambridge Analytics with this, it's a movie made by the British, it's a TV show called The Capture.
And I don't know if you've seen it, but it's a British TV show.
You've got to see it if you haven't, because you're going to love it.
It's, I think it's a series or a short series, whatever.
Anyway, it depicts The Cambridge Analytica helped Trump get elected in 2016, and they did it in some very kind of semi-devious ways.
Now, he didn't necessarily need their help in those ways, but they did it anyway because that's the way they operate, right?
And then they quickly changed their name right after the election, and now they're called something else, but they still exist.
So I did a huge analysis of this.
I put it on my website.
It was an article mainly.
I don't think I made a video at that point.
My whole website got taken down just like that.
Again, Six days down.
This time it's been four days down since your disclosures and me talking about your film.
So this is what we're looking at, okay?
So this thing, this deep fakes, is a huge, huge story because it changes our reality and our understanding of our reality.
And I just talked on a show about what I think is going to happen And I don't know if it will, but I just posited this, that all the people that supposedly are dead, that are rock stars, film actors, people that have been arrested and turned state's evidence, that kind of thing, people that had to go into hiding because they were going to be killed anyway like Michael Jackson, I think that there's going to be a day
in the near future when they're all going to go on stage together rather than come out one at a time and they're all going to take their bows and basically say we went into hiding because the deep state wanted to kill us and we were you know they made attempts blah blah blah and they'll each have their individual story but i believe john f kennedy jr is one of them okay so that's the kicker But, so I'm going to get back to you.
I don't want to take any of your time, but I want to ask you a couple things.
One, I just listened to, you know, the Files interview, this guy Files, who came forward as one of the shooters rather recently.
And there's a long interview and there was a lot of mishmash going on where the guy who first interviewed him then died.
Everyone dies mysteriously associated with the Kennedy assassination, right?
There's like a plethora of people that have mysteriously died.
I think even Mae Bressel might be in that category.
Remember May Bressel long, long time ago?
I worked for May Bressel.
Oh, well, then, you know.
So, I don't know whether you think she was killed, but, you know, there was always that rumor.
Well, May Bressel, right before she died, she was getting into Israeli involvement in the United States government, and everyone started warning her to stop what you were doing, and she even got threatened, and then And that she was the first person, actually, to look into it, actually.
It was 1979, maybe, that she started looking into it, and she would say over and over, you can't believe what I'm finding, you can't believe what I'm finding.
Right.
And then she died.
Well she was an amazing woman and I don't even know how it is that I tripped into her but I was I was quite young at the time you know like not even I don't even you know I don't think I was college age or anything but um basically I I stumbled on her name I know she had a radio show late at night or something a little like Art Bell did later on and stuff like that and I she was just a mind blower she would just
You know, rapid fire, give you all kinds of fascinating data.
Anyway, one of the original truthers, I guess we might say.
So now there's a couple things.
Files, and that's not his real name.
Okay.
But he said.
On this interview, that he was a shooter.
He was on, I guess you call it the grassy knoll, right?
And he was behind a fence or a barrier kind of thing.
And there was a tree kind of covering him partially.
And that he took a shot with this certain kind of bullet that has mercury in it.
And that it hit the temple.
I think it's the right temple.
And that that was maybe the the main kill shot in his his opinion.
Okay now he some people, my source, disputes that he actually took the shot.
He thinks he was just a spotter and that someone else took the shot.
We know there were some coming from the book depository window thing supposedly.
And then supposedly from the grassy knoll and whatever.
All I'm trying to say here, this is my question.
He says there was all kinds of, he said there were three shots rang out, is his wording, rang out.
So I was captured by that, having listened to it early this morning.
And I remember that in your film, you make the point that nobody ducked, and he actually contradicts that.
He says people ducked and ran and all this kind of thing.
So, is he a liar?
What's your thought?
All right.
Thank you for asking this very important question.
i can't wait to answer so um as you know i worked with a guy on gaia who had a show His name was Corey Goode.
And he went and he said he was in outer space.
He went to the moon and Mars and everywhere.
And then he got involved in a lawsuit, which he lost.
And in the testimony at the lawsuit, he admitted under the fate of perjury that he made the whole thing up and he'd never been to outer space.
And all that.
And that had a big effect on me, because I realized that somebody could sit there for three years and just tell one story after another without blinking, and do a pretty good job of it, by the way.
And so, then I started thinking about, you know, people shooting the president.
Now, if I was the guy, and I guarantee this is what would happen, I guarantee it, because I've ran this by intel people, If I was the guy who's the chief operating officer of the assassination of a president, a high-ranking, high-profile president, here's what I would do.
I would hire—I wouldn't do it in the open or anything like that.
I would do it very quietly and clandestinely, but we'll just say that they do it in the open, which is actually kind of ridiculous.
But, we'll say it, it happened that way.
I would hire, of course, the best shooters, whatever, three of them.
I would triangulate it, just like the conspiracy theorists say.
And, you know, I would have an assistant with each guy that would help them with whatever they needed.
And then they would all meet after the assassination at one place, and I would have a designated guy that I chose to go in and kill them all, okay?
And then when he come in to report that he killed them all, I would kill him.
That's how it goes.
All right?
You cannot take any risks.
So, anybody who says that they shot the president and they're still breathing 12 hours later is not telling us the truth.
I don't know if they mind-controlled him.
You know they can do that.
And there's all sorts of weird things that happen after the Kennedy assassination, as if somebody is running around Wrecking evidence and planting evidence, and it's like, what's going on here, right?
And so, no, I don't believe that anyone would have lived more than 12 hours.
It would have been a closed rank.
Everybody would have died, except for the guy who came up with the idea and financed it.
And even they would be suspicious of each other.
And so, that's why nobody in the mob has really come forth.
Anybody with credibility has really come forth and said that they actually did it.
There are very many mobsters who said, oh, we wanted to kill him.
Yeah, and he's come forward with that.
So, but killing the president, man, that's, that's a risky, risky venture.
I mean.
Well, it is interesting because like I said, I just watched this guy on, you know, his name is files and I actually put it on my telegram for those of you that want to watch it.
So, I did put it on there, where I put everything.
And even with my website, it's now back up, my website, but it's still got missing pieces.
So, go to my Telegram for everything and go to my Rumble also.
Go ahead.
One last comment about all of this.
So, after the film got made and was out, I started thinking to myself, well, what caused the Warren Commission to think that three shots got fired, right?
Because I pretty much don't believe any shots got fired.
I don't believe there was any assassins.
I understand that.
And so I started going into the Warren Commission.
I looked and there's a police officer, a motorcycle police officer, left his radio on during the whole event.
And everything got recorded back at the Dallas Police Headquarters, the whole thing.
And this is what they used for the three shots.
So, I got that audio and I put it up on my audio software and I looked and I didn't see three spikes anywhere.
I thought, that's weird.
And I listened over and over and over.
I heard horns honking and people yelling and...
All sorts of stuff, but I didn't hear anything—any loud snaps or anything.
And I got, well, that's strange.
And then I did a deeper dive at that point, and I found out that the FBI had taken that same audio tape in 1980 and ran it through their top equipment and made a report on that audio and said, there are no gunshots in this audio.
And I wish I could have included that in the movie.
But, I mean, so the audio tape that the Warren Commission used didn't have any gunshots on it.
And, you know, and so people don't realize if you're at the Grassy Knoll, where this guy says he was, you're 13 yards away from Elm Street.
13 yards.
Yeah.
Okay?
A .30 caliber rifle Everybody's ears would be ringing, okay?
First you'd be on the ground, because you'd be scared to death from the sound of it.
There's nothing scarier in the whole world, to be honest with you, I've had it happen to me, than having a high-powered bullet whiz past your ear.
They have the air being cut by that bullet.
I understand.
Yeah.
It is terrifying.
And because you don't know what's going on.
It's just a complete confusion.
And people would be falling to the ground.
Nobody falls to the ground in the Zapruder film.
That's true.
That's true.
The brilliance of our film, the brilliance of JFK X, and it's on, anyone can watch it now, it's on Vimeo, it's on Prime, is that Ryder and I, at the beginning of it, asked ourselves the question, what would the Zabruder film look like if we ran it through that software that they're using to enhance old movies?
Taking the scratches out, removing anything that's wrong with it.
And then having a person who's an expert in filmmaking, me, look at that copy and what do I see as a filmmaker?
And that's what JFKx is about.
It's the best version, I think you'll have to agree, of the Zubruder film ever shown anywhere And it's like looking through a piece of glass.
You can clearly see John Connelly says that there was brain matter all over the back trunk of the car.
There's no brain matter.
You get shot with a bullet in the back or the front of the neck.
That's called a kill shot.
Okay?
That guy's dead.
You're going to bleed out in about 30 seconds because every artery and vein goes right through this little intersection.
It's where you want to hit an animal when you're hunting it because you don't have to chase it down.
It's just going to fall over in about 20 seconds.
And the blood that would be spewing from the neck wound would be everywhere.
Jackie would be covered with it.
The back of the car would be covered with it.
The seats would be covered.
He would be covered with it.
Probably Connelly and his wife would have it all over them too, and there's no blood at all.
In fact, if you actually look at the Zapruder film, he never grabs his neck.
He goes to about here.
He doesn't do this.
Yeah, I recall that from your film.
Okay, but now there are still some extenuating circumstances that we have to look at.
So, on top of it, there is, I just want to say this and I don't, someone's going to have to go check it.
I listened to it close this morning.
I do notice that this witness, again Files, there was something about his demeanor and also the way he described his demeanor at the scene at the time.
So kind of an interesting thing going on there.
He appears to be a very Uh, sort of calm.
He is detail-oriented, and he really knows, you know, guns and all of that.
And he was very sure of himself.
In fact, he was a little too sure, in my opinion.
Like, when you have somebody backing you up, that you know you're not going to be, you know, contradicted or thrown to the wolves or whatever.
And, by the way, prosecuted.
You know and and so this is kind of interesting.
Now the way I'm looking at it though he also I think he made a mistake a couple times and what he did was he didn't call his gun a rifle.
At one point he called it a pistol.
And you have to go back and listen, but I think that he made a mistake.
Now, he's older and... No, he didn't make a mistake.
He would have been dead if he shot the president.
He would have been dead.
I get it, I get it, I get it.
I think I would agree on that.
They would never let him talk!
I know, but wait!
Okay, but I still want to set the scene and I've got these questions, right?
So, the other thing that I noticed is that One of the things he says in this video, and you've really got to listen to it carefully and like, you know, one step at a time, regardless of whether he's lying, because you have to analyze the kind of lies he might be telling.
One of the other things he said is that um that there was uh there was no um fuck i think i just forgot what i was going to tell you okay so he he talked about the people on the grassy no and that he took remember when he took the lead like he said he took the scope and he he looked around himself over the fence and he says he examined everyone who was there right before the motorcade came
And, you know, like an hour before, a half hour, whatever it was.
This is what he said he did.
And he noticed that he knew all those characters that were on the... that they were all known quantities.
And what he said was, everyone knew there was going to be an assassination attempt.
Everyone.
He said the CIA, the NSA, the mob, etc.
But there wasn't.
Okay, just wait.
So what I'm thinking is this.
I think it was faked, but I think there's another element, and I think the element is a double.
The reason I think that is because what we have is we have spottings out in this sector That have been saying that there's an old man that looked like Kennedy that is quite ancient, really, that died two years ago and has been attending Trump rallies.
I'm just saying, you don't have to believe me, but there are photographs.
And the other thing is that when he said there were all these people that were in the know, then I think, look, it's a no-brainer.
We know the SS were in on it.
I just he's he's not telling you the truth so okay but it but but it doesn't matter I believe for a new okay but it was common knowledge even I don't believe anything he's saying that JFK was told not to show up that day because it was going to be dangerous he was told he said his excuse was that his ego was you know he wanted to be part of the crowd court carry he'd be dead
Yeah, I know, but these other extenuating circumstances actually have nothing to do with him.
Only children think that someone can do a high-level assassination and get to live through it.
You're getting stuck on the guy.
I'm talking—wait—I'm talking about the Secret Service now.
I'm not talking about the guy.
What did Kennedy's Secret Service think Prior to showing up that day in Dealey Plaza with the president, when presidents have doubles, they would have thought he's going to be in danger.
Now that the story goes, the official story goes, he was warned, but he ignored the warnings because of his, they called it his ego, and that he wanted to be out and join the public.
Now, I'm not saying it's true or false.
I'm just looking at that information, and I am saying that if CIA was in on it, Mob was in on it, NSA was in on it, all these factors, as well as I believe George Bush was the main kingpin on the story, and there's a book out there that says the Dulles brothers were very top level on this, by the way.
You might have seen that Wait a minute, when you say George Bush was in on the Squib on JFK?
No, no, George Bush was there at Dealey Plaza.
What was he in on, though?
The planning.
The planning was that Kennedy put the Squib on his face and Jackie pulled the thing.
It wasn't that simple.
Well, I mean, you might think it's that simple.
I think it's more complex than that.
All I'm saying is that this is an interesting comment from a guy.
A guy who couldn't possibly be alive.
Okay, do you deny that the CIA was in on it?
Yeah, I don't think they were in on it.
You're kidding me.
I think that they knew about it.
Now that's what a child would think, seriously.
No, they covered it up, yeah, but they weren't in on it because he was trying to escape the CIA, too!
Well, duh, but also the mob.
You think the mob had nothing to do with it?
No, they didn't have anything to do.
What would they do?
Put the scrib on his face and pull the string?
Who created the threat?
Who created the threat?
Oh, he had received threats from the mob.
He played it.
Well, they had to be in on it, then.
No, they weren't in on anything.
He knew that he was about to be killed.
They had threatened him.
He knew several groups.
Someone was there, was in on it.
The fact that Kennedy Sr.
was on the scene, you think that's just an idle idea?
Joe was at the assassination?
No, Bush—I'm sorry, Bush Sr.
was at the scene.
We don't know that.
He was there.
He's been reported.
We don't know that.
Oh, yes, it's reported everywhere.
The only thing we know about George H. Bush is that he was on trial, and they asked him where he was on November 22, 1963, and he refused to answer.
Yeah, well, all I'm telling you is that there have been sightings and disclosings of that.
Okay, forget that part.
Do you know that George Magazine was named after Bush Senior?
I don't know who George Magazine is.
JFK Jr., George Magazine, the son?
Did you know that right before the attempt on his life, the assassination... Wait, let me finish.
Did you know that JFK Jr.
was hiring an investigative reporter to write an article for George Magazine that was going to expose the fact that Bush Sr.
and a bunch of these other people were part of the group that killed his father?
Did you know he was putting that article together?
I would say that John Jr.
grew up on Scorpios Island with his mom, married to Aristotle.
That's where JFK was.
He fully knows where JFK is.
He lived with them.
It was his dad.
JFK was seen several times on Scorpios Island.
It's actually information that I did some investigation.
This is the story with George Magazine.
Whether you like it, you think he was, you know, in 12 different places, it doesn't matter where he was.
My point is that he was going to do an article right before they killed him on who really killed his father.
Or was plotting to kill his father, then let's put it that way.
Okay, so the Kennedy family is involved in creating a way for us to be diverted from what really happened on that day, which is dad faked his death and left and wanted nothing more to do with the deep state.
That's what happened.
His dad faked his death.
That's it.
There's nothing else going on.
Nobody fired any shots.
There weren't any assassins there.
Well, you have to have a threat for a guy to want to fake his death.
Oh man, he had so many.
We list them in the film.
Okay, but you don't think any of them were there that day, is that right?
No.
Why'd they do the squib if nobody was going to show up?
Why didn't, you know, he could have had a million ways.
Because they had their guy, Abraham Zobruder, there with the 8mm film camera, and he wanted a way out, and he wanted to make sure the mob didn't come after his family, because that's what they do.
They don't just kill you.
That's exactly right.
And he wanted to make sure they thought he was dead.
Yes.
So they would back off of killing the rest of his family because that's what they had threatened to do.
And he fooled the mob.
It was incredible.
I have a friend in Greece who lives right next to Scorpio's Island.
He saw JFK there several times.
So you agree with me that the real guy lived?
Oh, yeah, he lived.
Yeah, JFK lived.
Yeah, he went off with Mary.
Mary was in the movie.
They went off to live together.
All right.
And I understand they had a very nice life and he raised his kids.
Okay, now let's talk about the Zubruder film a little bit more.
When you get to the sign, right, the sign, There is a break, and you admitted there was a splice, if not two splices, right?
Right before the sign?
Yep.
Okay.
There's two splices, but the most important one is the one when the car, the limousine, goes behind the Stemmons Freeway sign.
Right, the sign.
So the point here is that I'm a filmmaker also.
And I do editing, okay?
I edit every documentary I've ever made.
And I don't like editing, okay?
But I do it.
And I also was learning editing a long time ago, in the olden days, when I was very, very young, and I first came to Hollywood, you know, the old-fashioned way you do it, before the computers came along, right?
With tape.
Yeah, and this thing that cuts the film.
Anyway, the sprockets and the whole thing.
So I know a little bit.
I'm not an expert.
I'm not an expert editor.
I'm certainly not.
But I know the process.
So what happens is, I noticed, like you proved, and I thought this was a very good point, that the beginning, before the sign, one kind of film, after the sign another kind of film, right?
And I think that's a very good point.
I think They also wiped out on the second part of the film some of the people that were actually along in the crowd looking at the car at the time they got rid of those people because now there's like two you know it's five i think but yeah all right but it's it's insane it is so so clearly they felt the need to airbrush out those ones as well or they did a second take
Sure, okay, if you want to call it that.
I mean it is, see there's an overlay to the whole thing.
This is just my take and then we can move on from here.
One thing I've noticed about the whole thing to me is how many players were involved.
It's almost as if, and you call it a set, it's almost as if it really is a film set.
It's almost as if every single person that was there that day was part of the setup The exposition, and then the actual, you know, rollout.
And you know how you can tell that?
Is at the beginning of the Zubruder film, they're showing the cop coming down in a motorcycle, and then you can see the limousine coming, taking a right onto, or a left, I mean, onto Elm Street.
The people on the sidewalk, right?
Well, they're lined up shoulder to shoulder, right?
And that's how you line up people when you're on a movie that doesn't have a big budget, and you're trying to make it look like you have a lot of people, but you don't.
So, you line them up, and I mean, it's not... And there was too few people in that picture, in those pictures.
Okay.
Yeah, I think that's one of the most brilliant parts of the film, is we show you his arrival, him and Jackie arriving at Fort Worth, and the crowds are thronging and going crazy, and you can see the joy all over Jackie and Jack, and then they arrive at Dallas, and again the crowds are going crazy, and all the drive down Dallas, there's thousands of people yelling and screaming, and then they take the turn onto the very center of downtown Dallas,
Yeah, like, anti-climactic to say the least, right?
But they still act like they're happy as anything, right?
Which is kind of, you know, you still have to put up a good front, but there's kind of a feeling that something's amiss.
Yeah, and your whole thing, though, I want to address it, where you say that everybody knew that there was something going to happen.
Well, in the Brooder film, in our enhanced version, you can clearly see.
Okay, so Kennedy comes from around the freeway sign, and he puts the thing on, and his hand comes down, and there's two seconds, right, before it goes off.
About two seconds.
So, 40 frames, something like that.
In those 40 frames, the driver, the Secret Service agent, John Connolly, and John Connolly's wife are all turned and looking at Kenny, right?
It's hilarious, and if they don't know a shot's coming, what are they looking at?
Why are they looking, right?
Okay, but this is, okay, let me tell you something else that Filer said.
Maybe he got his story wrong and you think the whole thing's a lie, but just let me throw this out.
He actually sort of made a mistake.
He said the freeway sign was in his way.
It was going to be in his way any second, and so he had to quote-unquote take the shot.
That's what he said, okay?
Now the strange thing about that is that the the sign was like in the way and then in I'm talking about the Zabruder film right now so in the Zabruder film The shot doesn't happen until after he passes the sign, so there's a discrepancy there.
He says he took the shot before the sign, and then it's being said that the actual on the film, it's after the sign.
And he would have to be, by the way.
Right over the right shoulder of Abraham Zabruder.
I mean, he would have to be like 10 feet behind him.
That bullet would be so loud, it would just be ripping through the air, and nobody responds to any bullets going off.
You cannot stop that from being emphasized.
Yeah, I know.
By the way, silencers don't work on high-powered rifles.
Well, let me talk about the moon landing for a minute.
I know this is a weird transition, and you might not even agree with me on this, but, you know, I have secret contacts in all this.
And one of the things that I know, and I've been told, but I actually totally know this, is that we did go to the moon, but we had help.
And that what Stan the Kubrick actually did was make a fake so that they could use that because as my witness, and you know, William Tompkins, so you must know this backstory.
He said when they actually got up there with help.
Their greeting party was a bunch of reptilians and ships, okay?
So maybe you didn't pay attention to William Tompkins when he said that, but it's a very striking story, and it's in my interview with him as well.
So it's in your Gaia TV thing, I'm sure, and it's also in my interviews with him.
Okay, so just saying, I'm just throwing this out.
I worked for JPL, okay, and I know that they had like little sets, you know, with where the rover could go and go on over rocks and the rocks were red and the ground was red and they took photographs.
So they even were doing it with the rover, okay, when I was there.
So all I'm saying is that when you're going to fake something, you might do more than one take.
You also might have a fake one and a real one.
So I'm just throwing this out.
I'm not saying it's true.
It's an idea.
If you're a filmmaker and you're going to do a complex sequence, you're going to shoot it from every angle you can with as many takes as possible.
Right.
That's the only way you're going to do it.
But there can also be a real one.
See, one of the deceptions out there, even with the deep fake thing, That's coming.
Although the deep fake can fake you in real time.
Like it can make me say something else that I'm not saying right now.
It could make me say, and I'll look totally not normal.
So that's a whole step beyond what we know.
That's coming.
What?
That is coming.
Yeah.
I mean, it is real, but you mean it's going to get out there.
I think they're going to take off all your videos and they're going to make you look like a total fool.
Yeah, 100%.
And how that happened to them.
And saying things in the movie, in the capitol.
Racism.
A politician ends up turning the whole crowd, everybody against him because he comes up with stuff that everyone's their jaws dropping going, what the fuck happened to this guy's brain?
You know, he suddenly, you know, he was on the right and suddenly he's on the left.
That kind of thing.
So all I'm suggesting here is there is faking going on.
I think we're totally in agreement on that.
It's just the degree to which.
And I just want to say they had doubles then.
They have presidential doubles now.
And this is did you hear the story that Trump was going to release the Kennedy assassination?
Tell the truth.
And they gave him a folder.
He read the folder, closed it and basically changed his mind.
I think the reason this is I'm you know hypothetical and you can just give me your comment.
is that Trump realized that if this faking and the presidential doubles was known, I mean known-known in the mainstream, that that would not only endanger him, right, so when is he real and when is he fake and all that kind of thing, but it would undermine the confidence of the people, right, in the system altogether because they are faking all these people Constantly.
And it's, you know, it's like, well, it's driving a lot of us crazy at this point.
Yeah, I think that is pretty much right.
I think he saw it, but I think he may have even gotten the idea that, you know, maybe he could find a way out of all this, too.
And so I think, yeah, I think that's exactly right.
I think that's the reason that he said, no, I'm not going to do it.
And I think Biden said, no way ever are they going to be released.
So now they're never going to be released, even though they promised that they would be.
So it's not going to happen.
Well, I'm hoping this interview could turn that around.
I know that's a big help.
Me too.
And, you know, so yeah, that's one of the things I'm really interested in too, by the way, is the doubles.
You know, I mean, it was well known, you know, I'm doing a heavy duty deep dive into the Beatles, and the Beatles had doubles.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's how they got away from the screaming girls, right?
They would use their doubles to come out of the limousine while they're getting in the hotel in the back near the alley, right?
And over and over in the music business.
You've heard about the John Denver, what do they call him?
I forget his name.
Anyway, there's a particular double that a lot of celebrities use all the time.
He's, forget his name, someone in the chat probably knows who I'm talking about.
You know, he's got this scraggly hair, and he kind of, I don't know, he looks kind of like a homeless man.
Well, anyway, he was at the Patriot Double Down, where I was listening to 107 and a bunch of speakers, and he was there, leaning up against a pole, and someone told me, you know, on the QT or whatever you call it, saying, uh, that guy is actually John Denver in disguise.
So I said, okay, and I went over to him.
He hated my guts because I, you know, I'm a journalist.
I went right into his face.
I went right up to him and I put my arm out like over his head to see how tall he was.
And he was short.
And so, number one, I knew he was not JFK Jr., but number two, I said, well, you're not John, so who are you?
And I meant John, you know, Jr.
And he wouldn't answer me, and then he pretty much disappeared right after that.
So that guy has shown up in all kinds of situations.
You've heard of him, right?
No, I don't know who it is.
Oh, you don't know who I'm talking about?
Oh, wow.
Okay, I'll send you a picture and everything.
He's a known guy, and he wears this funny hat.
You're going to recognize him immediately because he's out in the circuit.
Anyway, he's a disguise.
This is what I was told, that a lot of Hollywood people wear that exact disguise, including John Denver, who's not dead.
Just saying.
Well, I'll tell you what, I did a dive when John Denver died into his death, and there are some pretty weird stuff going on around his death.
There really is.
I mean, he pulled the wrong switch, they say, on his airplane, causing it to go into a crash dive.
And I talked to pilots, they go, man, nobody would do that!
Nobody would pull that switch!
Right?
I mean, really?
You know?
So, yeah, it could be.
The show business is filled with people who get in thinking that they're going to get all the, you know, attention and sex and money and all that and adoration.
And they get in and they find out that it's like run by a mafia, a very, very nasty mafia, who, if you defy them, will take you out.
And they make damn sure you know it.
And I've known people high up in the music industry and they had their conversation.
Every one of them had a conversation.
As soon as they hit a certain level, the fame of the door, you know, Yeah, we have to talk to you here.
And then there's this famous Bob Dylan interview, who I believe is also not really Bob Dylan, on 60 Minutes, where he says, you know, and it's like, okay.
You work for the man who runs this world, right?
And you find out, if you look at his background, you find out that he went to super Orthodox Jewish schools, never went to public school.
He went to these very expensive schools in Minnesota.
And you can see that he's kind of a manufactured being.
And I believe he is.
And I don't believe that the guy who's Bob Dylan is the guy who was Bob Dylan in 1965.
Okay, fair enough.
Now there's a couple other little details.
Is there something you want to say before I ask you more questions?
I just want to say that it is The JFK X is a film that tries to deal strictly with the facts, and we take the Zabruder film and show you what is going on by giving you a really good copy of it so you can see it.
And then we do speculate, you know, at the end, I admit, it's speculation about the cop that Oswald killed, J.D.
Tippett, and I agree with the speculation on Mary Pinchelmeyer's death, the former wife of the head of the CIA.
Very suspicious death.
Well, I always thought that.
Yeah.
But, you know, for the most part, we stick with the facts.
We spend Act 1 telling you what happened that day, because most people under 50 don't know what happened that day.
So we felt we had to do that, and we try to do it as fast as possible.
And then Act 2 is where you bring me in, and we talk about really what we see on the film.
And then Act 3 is, okay, so what happened after that?
And, you know, the film...
Right.
Okay.
breaking ice in a lot of ways.
People are coming forward, right?
Women who cleaned up Aristotle and Asis' home, for instance, who are now in their 70s are coming forth and going, yeah, there's this guy there.
Now that I think about it, he had silver hair.
And he was in a wheelchair frequently because he did have Addison's disease.
But he said he liked to fish off the pier.
He liked to take his wheelchair and go fishing.
And I mean, I'll be honest with you, if you want to have a phone call sometime without being recorded, Doing this film, I went down the Kennedy rabbit hole, and I discovered things that made me shudder.
And in the end, I didn't even—I wish I hadn't done it.
I wish I hadn't gone down the hole.
And I mean, things that will make your hair stand on end.
Aristotle's son dies in a plane crash, and right after saying that Jackie was going to steal all their money, and oh my God, it's so amazing what I've discovered, and I can't say it.
I can't say it.
They would Not be happy if I actually told in public what I actually now know.
And I presented it to friends of mine, and they're like, Whoa, dude!
You know, you don't want to say that, right?
So, it's a deep hole, and nobody's really very nice in the hole.
Nobody.
There's no nice people.
Just saying.
Okay, all right, fair enough.
Now, I have a piece of information given to me by this person who has done a deep dive on the Kennedy thing.
He says that the story of, this is a fake story, he said that Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger during Prohibition and that's how he made his money.
It's been debunked according to this Investigator.
And he says that Joe was actually the first SEC commissioner and ambassador to the UK in World War Two and that Nixon never referred to this kind of background for Joe Kennedy.
So I'm just throwing that out.
I don't know if you know that.
Did you ever hear that?
Well, the Irish mob—I'm Irish, so I guess I can talk about the Irish mob anyway—the Irish mob doesn't, you know, they didn't rise to the heights of, say, the Italians or the Jews, right?
They kind of… I don't know if they really had it in them.
It seems like they didn't.
But Kennedy, the whole Irish mob was involved in bringing booze down during the Great Depression from Canada.
Well, I read about that, yeah.
Seagrams, they got really involved in all that.
Meyer Lansky swiped a load of alcohol from Joe Kennedy, and Joe Kennedy never forgot it, and he got a real...
I want to be careful here.
He got a real interest in Meyer Lansky and his friends, and he began a lifelong interest in those people, and by the time John was elected, he— had many discussions with people about the problem in America that he saw post-World War II.
And he was adamant in stopping it.
And that's some of the stuff that I can't talk about because, I mean, it really, really is amazing.
It's amazing.
I mean, I can't even begin to tell you the things that Joe Kennedy was involved with.
And let's not forget—I'll put this out, and then I'm not going to say any more—Bobby Kennedy was Joe McCarthy's number one counsel in Joe McCarthy's endeavor to root the communists out of the U.S.
government.
That's all I'm going to tell you.
Okay, well, that makes some sense to me anyway.
But I have to say that there's another thing that was said, is that Bobby knew everything about the assassination.
And this is something that JFK Jr.
said while he was supposedly still alive.
And someone else has said that as well.
So someone close to the story.
So just saying, for what it's worth, Bobby, I'm sure you had a long discussion with Bobby about him faking his death and his legacy.
He was very concerned the last nine months, as we show in the film, of his life on his legacy.
He was supporting people.
He was clearly trying to become a legacy president before the assassination, including asking a famous historian if the assassination of Lincoln cemented Lincoln's legacy.
And the guy said, yeah, absolutely.
If he had lived after the assassination, he would have had to face reconstruction and he would have been in and probably not having a very good time being president.
But because he got assassinated, that's all we remember.
And so everybody loves Lincoln.
His face.
Well, I don't have contact.
Well, I kind of have a sporadic contact with one of my top witnesses called Captain Mark Richards.
He and his father knew Kennedy.
So I'm going to ask him also, but I will tell you, I have a secret witness who said, told me this a while ago, that he has seen What he called the original Zebruder film, that he actually has seen it.
Now, he never revealed to me what's on it.
I guess he's not supposed to, but I'm just saying that I know a certain person who says that.
Now, these people, these two people that I'm talking about,
Very much could have that information whether you like it or you don't and whether you want to agree with them or disagree whatever I'm just telling you that there are those two people one source and Captain Mark Richards definitely are people that were close enough to the situation or at least in the second case he wasn't close to it he just saw the right supposedly was led in to see the real film now you know even that could be a fake we just don't know
But I'm just throwing that out.
Again, it's the Corey Goode effect.
I mean, why should I believe you?
You have no evidence.
I'm not going to believe you until you give me evidence.
That's what I do every time.
I mean, as a journalist— If you're a journalist like you, and you tell me something, and I have done some work in another place and know that what you just told me is true—and I'm sure that happens to you frequently, because it does happen to me—then I start thinking, well, maybe this person isn't BSing me.
Maybe they've got something because they did that.
But again, People tell lies.
That's the one thing we've learned in the last three years.
Okay, well, I know some background about the whole good situation, and because he has threatened me, I don't want to say anything more, okay?
And so off the record, we could talk about that if you even have half an interest, but it's really boring, and I understand why you might not.
So just saying, um, you know, it's, he's, he's, he's going to lose his lawsuit against Gaia and he lost his other one.
So he's going to be completely broke.
And, um, you know, so it's like, you know, I don't want to go there at all.
So let's not even, not even, I just wanted to tell you that I do know some information anyway.
Um, Going back to this story and to the deepfake, now let me tell you one other little thing that's kind of interesting.
This has to do with Cambridge Analytica getting Trump elected in 2016.
And a very interesting thing, a tactic they use that I think most people don't realize.
And it works into why Trump is on trial right now and why they're attacking him like crazy.
They are.
They found out if a politician, and you could substitute star, politician, president, He does something where he gets bad-mouthed, or notorious, or is a bad boy, or whatever happens to be.
The public loves him all the more for it, and they go crazy, okay?
This is a thing that PR people know, and so sometimes they will even plant negative information about their clients out in the... so you know about that, right?
I'm a screenwriter, that's how you make a bad character.
I mean, you know, you gotta do something with the guy.
If you want people to hate your character, you've gotta do something with him.
So I used to just have my bad guy kick a little cute dog, right?
And everybody hated him for the rest of the movie, right?
Right.
So, I mean, yeah, this is brilliant manipulation.
This all goes back to— But it works for Trump in amazing ways, and they keep doing it.
I mean, in some ways you have to know some of it's fabricated, okay?
Because, you know, it's just like it's been done over and over again.
I mean, we're really getting to the end of this fakery, I think, to some degree, that surrounds Trump.
I think I think the real nitty-gritty has got to come out, at least a version of it.
And I certainly would love to see the stage where all these people come forward, whether that would ever happen.
I think because it takes the sweat off of every individual having to come forward one at a time and get the news media going crazy and all that kind of thing.
Do it all at once, get it over with, and it's out there.
These people faked their death because they were under threat and so were their families.
This is very understandable.
And by the way, this is why JFK Jr.
has been doing this now for a very long time.
As well, according to my investigations.
And I don't necessarily expect you to believe me, like a lot of people, but there are plenty.
I have proof.
So, for what it's worth, you can take my word or not take my word, decide I'm lying, you know, but whatever.
I don't care.
I put it out there.
I have put out enough weirdness around JFA Junior staff to call into question.
And I even investigated, you know, this, I interviewed this author who they gave him a form of Agent Orange.
When he was writing his book, which was like 10 years after the thing happened, and he did an incredible amount of, you know, feet on the ground, going around interviewing people, but right when he was doing the beginning of the book and writing it, they gave him this incredibly difficult to find I don't know what you call it.
Disease that was based in Vietnam that was related to Agent Orange and it almost killed him.
And literally, I talked to him.
I mean, I've interviewed him.
So you can watch the interview.
It's quite fascinating.
So you got to look at that again.
Right when he was doing an investigation and writing a really good book and he was a really conscientious guy, you know, that's what happened to him.
So he did write his book.
He ended up, you know, he didn't actually go the direction I thought he should, but it's okay, you know, he did what he did.
But I do really analyze, I asked him all sorts of questions like I'm asking you.
Anyway, okay, now I think that there's something more going on here.
And there are so many, like you just said, you want to make a movie, you want to make your next movie to be about all the different fakeries out there, or what do you want to do?
Each movie is going to concentrate on a different form of fakery.
Okay.
Things that are near and dear to our hearts.
That is one thing, but actually is completely the opposite.
And, you know, I figured that if I had to suffer through it and have all my icons and heroes dash to the ground, well, I'm gonna...
I'm gonna force that agony on everybody else.
So everybody's gonna have their heroes dashed, and that's the way it should be.
Because you know what?
It's time to grow up.
And they've been flashing these puppets in front of us and showing us, you know, things that aren't true.
And it's time for us to now realize that, you know, we gotta stop living in their fantasy.
Fantasy that they're creating for us.
And I'm gonna use their own props.
You know, movies.
Yeah.
Okay, we've got a person in the chat who says, what is a squib?
Obviously they didn't watch the movie, so they need to watch the movie to get the definition, or we can tell them here.
What do you think?
Let's just tell them.
Go ahead.
A squib is a Hollywood device that is used to simulate a gunshot wound.
They use them in movies all the time.
Quentin Tarantino is the king of squibs.
Every movie except for Hollywood has had like five squibs in it or more.
And what a squib is, it's a little thin metal plate with stickum on the bottom.
And then a little bit of gunpowder is placed on top of the plate with an ignition device, which used to be run by a string.
You pull the string, spark it, light the gunpowder off.
And on top of the gunpowder is your fake blood.
And then it's all wrapped in a prophylactic.
And then you stick it on the actor.
You know, the actor will put it on his chest, let's say.
And then the string will go down and there will be a guy and a technician below him.
So the shot will be cut off right here.
The squib will be right here.
And the director goes, all right, three, two, one.
And the actor and the guy pulling the string on the squib go at the same time.
The actor reacts, the squib goes off, and the audience thinks that they just saw a guy get shot in the chest.
And Hollywood did not use squibs hardly at all until after the JFK assassination.
Two times it was used in Hollywood prior to 1964.
And then in the late 60s, Sam Peckinpah really started using them and all the, because he was old, but all of us guys, the younger ones, were like, whoa, but all of us guys, the younger ones, were like, whoa, Right?
So I think we kind of overused them in the 70s and 80s.
Yeah.
We were a little hyper-violent, the movies.
But here's the thing.
When you get hit with a high-powered bullet, There's not an explosion.
I mean, yeah, in Hollywood there's an explosion.
There's no explosion.
When you get hit with a high-powered rifle, it goes in.
There's just a little hole right here.
On the backside, there's going to be an explosion, but on the front, you're not going to see really much of anything.
And several people who worked as snipers in the Iraq War told me, after the movie came out, they wrote me and they said, dude, if I had taken a .30 caliber Carcano rifle and shot that guy in the head like they're saying, his head would be gone.
Every one of them have said that.
It would be gone!
You'd just see the neck hanging there, with it gone and splattered everywhere.
So, there's no way, you know?
There's no way.
But in 1963, you could get away with what they got away with, because nobody had any references to what a bullet wound actually really looked like.
And now you couldn't do that.
But they won't do anything like that anymore.
They're not going to risk that kind of fakery.
So, the fakery they're going to do now is what you're talking about, why I'm so interested in what you're saying, because the fakery that they're now doing is so sophisticated that it's scary!
I mean, everything from the fake White House Oval Office to, I mean, it's as if they've just decided to make everything theater now.
Yeah, I think there's more even fakery than we even suspect.
And I can also attest to that because Captain Mark Richards has told me that things like the Cuban Missile Crisis, for example, are not what we thought at all.
Like, not at all.
So it's really interesting.
I mean, he's got a whole litany of this stuff.
Now, I can't say that he's telling me the truth, okay?
I can think that he does.
He seems to be really forthcoming.
But I can tell you, he has actually said all kinds of historical incidents that we think happened in a certain way simply did not happen that way.
So this goes really deep into the American psyche, if not the world psyche, and so on.
So important!
I know you're right, because what I did was I started contemplating this whole thing, right?
10 years ago, 12 years ago, whatever.
And I started thinking, okay, Jay, you know, if you say something like this, they're gonna think you're schizophrenic and put away.
So, you can't say anything about what you're suspicious here of, right?
So, I said to myself, okay, here's what I'm gonna do.
lived in LA in the 80s and a certain incident happened.
In a—I'm not going to go any further—in a fast food joint, okay?
A certain incident happened that was worldwide famous for a week, right?
And I said, okay, I'm going to isolate that one incident that I went to five blocks away from where I lived in Hollywood.
I said, I'm going to isolate that incident, and I'm going to read every article and every TV show and everything I can about that incident, and just to see if what the Newspapers and the TV were reporting is what happened.
And I swear to God, this incident was fake.
It was fake.
And they were claiming that a dozen people died and all this stuff.
Well, doesn't this also get into the Manson killing as well, you know?
Ooh, you ought to read the new book, Chaos, the CIA and the Manson murders.
Wow!
Because it was, what is his name, the author Peter Levenda went into all of that, too.
He was a wonderful, he's a wonderful investigator.
He wrote a book.
But yeah, I'd like to read that, actually.
You should.
It's a really good book.
I tried to interview the guy.
He said he wouldn't do an interview unless I gave him a thousand dollars.
I'm like, okay, forget it.
But he proves in that book that Manson himself was part of the MKUltra program that was running out of the Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco.
Sidney Gottlieb was in the same building that Charlie Manson was going to every day, the Haight-Ashbury Medical Clinic.
Wow.
And he was in the same building.
And what is MKUltra?
The very rudimentary of MKUltra is you bomb your subject with acid, LSD, and then you give them—you tell them these fantasy stories that they believe, and then you get them to do what you want.
And what did Manson do?
He bombed the girls with LSD.
He induced them with fantasy stories about these people, and then he had them go and do it, or maybe they didn't do it because the Polanski murders might not be what we think.
The Sharon Tate murders, I should say, may not be what we think either.
There's a lot of evidence.
I'd be really happy if they weren't, but I mean, that also gets into what's his name?
Not Stallone, but.
You know, the famous.
You know, a professional athlete who supposedly killed his wife, Nicole.
O.J.
Simpson.
Yeah.
So that's, you know, I'm sure there are some aspects there as well.
I mean, every single major, major thing that gets really blown up in the press, I think we're finding this out.
And even now, we don't know what they're really doing over in the Middle East.
You know what I mean?
What's really motivating all that?
I mean, There's so much fakery now in our world that it's absolutely insane, I think.
That's right.
So, well, what happened is, is that—so, in 1665, Cromwell, he let in a lot of bad people into England.
And the next year, the London Fire happened, and the financial center of the world was created out of the ashes of that fire.
But those same people that, you know, were running the financial thing, they were also great fans of Elizabethan theater.
And they would go to the Elizabethan theater, which was a very elaborate, in those days, theater.
And somehow they got the idea that, hey, wait a minute!
You know, we can conquer the world with theater!
And so they created the East India Trading Company, and they went and they literally used theater to conquer China, India.
Those people didn't know what was even going on!
Because they were hiring people to do things, and only if you rise above the historical event and look down at it and think, okay, is this theater I'm watching?
Is this theater?
Does this look contrived?
Does this look preplanned?
Does this look like things that human beings would do?
And that's when you know.
When you ask those three questions, that's when you know you're dealing with something that's not right.
You know, so you get a politician like Mike Johnson, who makes all these patriotic statements before he becomes Speaker of the House, and as soon as he becomes Speaker of the House, he falls right in line.
I mean, yeah, really.
So he clearly got a paid phone call, or a visit, and got a nice-looking wife there, Mike!
You know?
And you're going to fall in line with what we're doing, so there's no way out of what they're doing.
And so they used theater, and the same people—they didn't invent movies, but they certainly financed the creation of the movie industry and eventually took control, during our lifetime, in fact.
Movies were very free until the late 70s, when the powers that be— I would agree.
You know what?
These kids are having too much fun, and they're telling too many truths.
Yeah, that's when movies stop, you know, right around the time of Serpico.
That was, like, the last movie.
Great movie, by the way.
Yeah.
Great movie.
Okay, well, this has been really fun.
I don't know, you know, if we're going... yeah, I guess we've been going a while, so I don't want to keep it too long.
It's okay.
I could go through a few other, you know, bits and pieces.
I can also look, I don't know, you know, to be honest, I don't even know if we're still live.
Maybe somebody could tell me if we're still live.
It's being recorded, so don't worry about that if we're not, but just asking the chat room here because I'm getting mixed messages here.
So are we still Yes, this is going on Rumble.
Okay, so people, I guess we are still live.
So if you have a question for Jay, this is your big opportunity.
And I just want to say that This is one thing I want to say.
With this idea that we're talking about, and how a lot of us really want the truth, okay?
And sometimes you say, well, the truth is not only stranger than fiction, but it also might not be the truth you really want to hear.
You know what I mean?
So it can be darker, as you were saying, some of these players are not as pristine as we'd like them to be, and so on and so forth.
So, but personally, I would like, you know, as an investigative reporter, of course, I thrive on finding the truth.
So it's very important that Not only a layer, you know, lately we get layers sometimes.
We'll get a layer of disclosure, but we don't get the real thing, right?
It doesn't go that deep.
I think that's really important.
So, I don't know if you're looking at the historical situation we're finding ourselves in at the moment, but the fact that we have so many lies, and even the flat earth thing is a whole, you know, In other words, these people are seeing the world in a completely different way, and they're not the only ones.
There are lots and lots of versions of reality right now, and it's almost becoming difficult to talk to people unless you vet them before you have a conversation to find out if your level of perception of reality will be even related.
Otherwise, it just gets insane.
You know, and then you throw in MKUltra and the mind control, and now, of course, we've got the Borg, you know, Homo Borg Genesis.
I guess you know about that, right?
The AI?
Oh yeah, it's a legal term for people that have been, took the COVID vax, got in, you know, put stuff into their body that then joins them more easily to AI.
And such that they can be ordered around and such.
So this is what we're looking in the future as well.
We're looking at people who are not who they say they are.
And by the way, I showed you that real police chief.
He came out just the other day and he allowed me to talk about this a little bit.
I can't go into too much detail because purposely as a limited off audience, that's why it makes you pay.
But Ashley Babbitt, who was killed at January 6.
apparently wasn't killed okay i know this is hard to wrap your mind around but but he had something like six or seven police officers looked at the footage and saw the shooter take his gun and actually shoot at the wall at the last minute and he said it's very clear to see So, that is fascinating.
You know, we are, and I have someone who's gone into the George Floyd thing, and that is a whole fakery like you wouldn't believe.
I mean, there are so many things and causes, you know, including climate change supposedly, you know.
So many lies that people are actually dedicating their lives to, right?
When I watched the video of the Ashley Babbitt situation, It looks to me like a completely fake situation.
Everybody looks fake.
The way they're yelling and talking, it looks fake.
It's just, I'm like, really?
You expect me to believe this?
I mean, it's just... But you got it, yeah.
And you know what?
It's a natural because filmmakers are going to be the best at catching these things, right?
Because we stare at film all day long and we try to make it as real as possible.
So we're definitely going to notice when something is off.
I notice it.
I know you would.
Yes, and there's things that only filmmakers know, like little tricks that you must do before the camera starts rolling, right?
And so you say, well, wait a minute, why did they just do that, right?
And the answer is, well, they're doing it because what they're doing is fake, and they had to wait for the camera to get rolling before they did it.
And so there's all sorts of these things that most people don't understand or think about.
The African-American gentleman at the Ashley Babbitt thing.
That guy's got to be the worst actor I've ever seen.
I mean, look at his pathetic acting.
He's like, really?
People don't act like that.
Come on.
And yeah, a filmmaker will be the first one to recognize bad acting, too.
Yes.
Well, let's just see what's going to happen in the future.
Let's poke some holes, continue to see through the fakery, and, you know, really get down to it.
Let's get the truth out.
So, thank you, Jay.
It's been great talking to you, and I'd like to hear more.
So can you please come back on my show and let's talk some more about this story and when you dig in to any of you know what you're going to be making if I know you want you won't want to give it away beforehand necessarily but anything you want to you you stumble on that you think because my audience audience will really love this stuff you know they're gonna like they're gonna show up the next two films you won't even believe it No doubt.
Yeah, so just keep safe and watch out for the boogeyman because there definitely is one.
Yeah, for sure.
Yep.
All right.
You take care and stay safe.
You bet.
Thank you.
All right.
Take care.
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