I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I've got Jim Watkins with me and he is the owner of 8Tune.
I don't know how you say that, but we're not going to elaborate on the name of that forum.
And it is a place where, in essence, the White Hats and A certain letter of the alphabet post said to be posting and so on.
So we're broadcasting through Facebook, so we have to be a little bit careful with what when we use that particular letter of the alphabet.
Insanely speaking.
So, but it's really exciting to have you here, Jim.
Why don't we start with a short bio for you?
I did post the one you sent me, so that's on the page for people to see.
And a lot of people have the link to watch this show on that page, or by clicking to the link for the show.
But this show will be, after broadcast, will be posted to Rumble.
odyssey.com and my website so those are the places where you can find this this video and uh hopefully we will have smooth sailing from from here on.
I'll do my best to be good.
Sorry?
I'll do my best to be good.
Okay but otherwise you can talk about just about anything I've never had a problem so uh the live broadcast seemed to escape certain things so Talk about your background, how you got involved in owning this particular website, because I think a lot of people are very interested, and you are not that person.
So, you know, I said that on my advertisement for the show.
A lot of people, I guess there was rumors that you might be that person, right?
There's been rumors that I'm that person, but I'm not that person.
I am, I really am not that person.
I got to owning my website because the previous website that I owned was de-platformed from the internet by the company that we're live broadcasting through and from
The deep state that seems to have purchased the Internet domain system from the United States.
That's an interesting system, by the way.
If you want to register a domain name in the United States... ICANN?
Are you talking about ICANN?
Well, ICANN is OK.
But at ICANN, they have registrars, and then people have to follow these certain procedures at ICANN to become a registrar.
We used to be a registrar, by the way.
We weren't a large registrar, and the registrations didn't make a lot of money, so we got out of that system.
But being in there, there's hundreds of people in there.
But just recently, over the past few years, a company called web.com has basically purchased almost every One of them except for a few.
Maybe GoDaddy and there's just a couple independents left that are difficult to find.
So they basically told me you can't be online with that previous website.
So we closed it down and I opened up a new company in Mississippi in the
district of the congressman that had pushed for me to be closed down and opened up with a new domain name 8coon.top which doesn't go through the same domain name registries system so that it hasn't been de-platformed.
Okay because I was de-platformed By someone who went into ICANN and changed our domain code.
They can do all sorts of nasty things.
They have done more than just that to me.
So when I had a certain guest, we were down for six days trying to figure it out and even GoDaddy couldn't figure it out until we told them what had happened because we got technical help.
uh of a certain kind and and then they were able to actually go into it and correct the error uh it wasn't an error of course it was a purposeful situation well more than likely um what what they do a lot of times when they have people of interest maybe you're a person of interest and by the way i love that tv show um yeah yeah absolutely interest at this point i've earned my stripes
Yeah, but as far as it goes, they will actually look at the DNS of those domain names that belong to people of interest.
And if you have an MX record, an MX record is what you put on your DNS so that you can have email on your domain name.
Maybe you have Carrie Cassidy at At Camelot.com or something.
You know, that would be your email.
So if they accidentally take that domain name off of their system at Network Solutions or one of these other ones that have all been purchased by one company in Florida, which is owned by people in England,
So if they accidentally take that off, then they would have access to your MX record, and they could just collect all of the email from all of the people that send you email until they decide to give it back to you.
So they can have everybody that was sending you email during those six days, they have it.
Maybe so.
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, we're tracked by the NSA and everybody, so that's no big deal.
Now, what's the big deal on that, though, Carrie?
It's not the NSA.
The NSA is grabbing every 32-bit packet on the Internet.
They have that, but they supposedly don't use that against Americans.
What has happened, though?
And you're a high-profile person.
You receive email from a lot of people, and you probably receive email from From whistleblowers, things like that.
And if, say, an intelligence agency that's part of the Five Eyes that's not American got that information from that whistleblower that way during those six days that you were offline, then They have that information in all of the Five Eyes countries' intelligence systems, even if it didn't go through the NSA.
It's... Okay.
Yeah.
Well, none of that's... They did that to me.
They got everybody.
And then they were bold enough to publish a newspaper article on it.
And I found out later that the press that was publishing it is actually owned by one of those intelligence agencies.
So I said, you guys are, you know, it's hard to, I sometimes feel like, have you seen that poster of the eagle swooping down on the mouse and the mouse has his middle finger up?
Sometimes I feel like that mouse, but I'm not going to give up.
Well, you're supposed to feel like that, but you shouldn't.
I want to talk about you for a little bit.
How did you get into this?
Are you a super techie type of person?
Well, I have things that I'm really good at and things that I'm not.
Those things that I'm not at, I have employees that help me with that.
Okay.
But did you start out?
DNS I'm pretty darn good at.
You know, DNS is magic to most people.
Did you start out, you know, as a techie?
Like, you know, can we go back?
Yes.
In the 90s, I was top of the line, but I'm not top of the line anymore.
Okay.
As a what?
I started my company in 97.
Right, but did you work for any large tech firms?
I worked for the U.S.
Army before I started my company.
Oh, really?
Yes, I was in the Army for 16 years.
Oh, alright.
And did you use your technical skills in the Army?
I did.
I did.
So they've had their eye on you, because anyone who's military, they watch, you know, when you leave.
Well, they probably did watch.
We were, in the late 90s, we were huge, you know.
Really?
Yeah, and we're still pretty big, but we've been swatted and crushed here in America.
But worldwide, we're pretty big still.
Still?
Well, that's interesting, you know, and I didn't know your URL.
Okay, I knew the first part.
I, you know, I probably went there in the early days of the Q-posts, right?
Right.
But lately, I haven't gone there.
I didn't, you know... Nobody can find it unless you know.
Because it's not in the search engine.
And I found you because we both spoke at a conference not long ago here, down in the L.A., greater L.A.
area, I guess you might call it.
Yeah, that was amazing.
And, yeah, it was kind of fun.
Judy Michovitz was there and, you know, a bunch of people and we had some, there were some nice speakers.
So, You did a good speech.
You know, you were talking about your whole legal case that they pursued you a number of times.
Now, can I ask you, did you make a lot of money back in those days?
So you're kind of like, okay now, because you basically talked on stage about how you had to pay lots of money to, I don't know whether it's legal fees or other kinds of fees.
Did you have to pay the government money?
Legal fees, multiple times now.
I've been law-fared substantially.
I still pay a lot of legal fees.
And back in the day, I made a lot of money, yeah, and I've been living off of that.
Okay, now, when we say back in the days, you're talking about, is this the original board that you had, or did you have a different kind of business?
I've been making money on the internet.
We started out as adult verification for pornography, and that was in the 90s.
It was a big deal then.
You had to prove your age to get involved if you wanted to watch a dirty movie.
And we did the age verification system for that.
Then I got into doing credit card gateways.
And while we're doing that, we're doing free speech bulletin boards all the while.
So we've been doing that.
My first one was a personals.
And after that, I got into doing link exchanges, and all of these made a lot of money.
So, were you ever tapped by the military to help them out?
After I got out?
No.
I had no contact with the military after I got out.
Okay.
And did they, you know, because we know you've been hounded lately.
And you could describe that, but could you say, like, were you hounded back in those days, or did it only start at a certain point, you know, with the Q stuff?
No, there's been a couple different times, and now is probably the worst hounding, but politically, in different countries, I was hounded before, and then that Things move on into something new, and then it moves into here now, and now here we're hounded right now.
And I hope that we'll be able to get through what's going on here.
I'm trying to be Facebook friendly.
Well, I, you know, I don't want you to do that, actually.
So, like, let's just forget about that, because we're now launched into the thing, and I don't think, like, I don't, I could be naive in this way, but I don't think that they, they're, even the AI can make it this far into the show with, you know, I think we passed the, passed muster.
Okay, then I'll, I'll, uh, we're through it, then, then ask me anything.
A-M-A.
Okay, I like it.
So I really want to know, let's talk about the early days of Q. Okay, the early days of Q, I didn't even know Q was happening in the early days.
I was busy doing cancer treatment and going to the hospital every day and all that, and my staff were running my websites for me at that time.
So the early days, in the early early days, it was on one of our competitors' websites on 4channel.
And so how did you become the place of sort of significance in that world?
Well, I didn't know how significant it was until I received a subpoena from the Congress by Twitter.
I was living in Asia at the time.
I lived in the Philippines and I was farming and recovering from cancer.
I was still on a lot of medication at that time.
And I received a subpoena on Twitter for The Ohio shooting, the El Paso shooting, the Poway shooting, and the shooting in Christchurch, and they were blaming me.
And then I get to... I come back to America right away.
The next day I'm flying to America, and I get there and I call Congress up and say, I'm here, when do you want to talk to me?
So, because I was supposed to be the boogeyman, the guy that didn't show up because I'm out of the country and I'm sick and all that, but no, I came right away because it was a big deal.
And it's been just one disaster after the next, and we're just fighting fires the whole time since then.
And that's been, what, three years?
Okay, but I want a little more specifics than that, so... Specific, ask... How did... No, no, let's just say, because I consider, you know, the Q White Hats, and I've been involved with them, uh, before they became known, okay?
Under that particular name, so...
I'm curious because you start, you're saying you started like in 97 or whatever it was.
When did this whole transition start where, you know, that those posts started appearing on your board?
What year was that?
Do you remember?
2017, I believe.
Okay.
And when that happened?
I think the first post was in October of 2017, maybe October 28th.
And did it just appear?
Did someone just register and have an account and then start posting?
Well, you don't have to register.
That's the thing, and that's why they use my website.
It's not only a First Amendment-friendly website, it's a Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment-friendly website, where you have a right to privacy.
At least Americans do.
And we use that, too.
So you aren't tracked on my website.
If you go to ACUNE, you're not tracked.
And they had been using a 4chan before that, and they're tracked on 4chan.
4chan has backend tracking courtesy of Google.
So there's a reason they hired the former owner of 4chan.
Okay, but...
Again, can you, you know, like in terms of let's pretend this is a movie and all of a sudden you get these posts, right?
And so if they don't need an account, they just post.
Is that right?
Yes, ma'am.
But they use what they call the trip code.
And what that is, is it is a password.
It's like a password and you put that into the website and then it It creates a random string, but that random string will always be the same if you use the same password.
So that's what Q does.
Q has a password, and I don't know how long it is or anything.
It could be password.
Try it.
But I doubt it.
I really sincerely doubt that it's password.
So what Q does is they post with that password and it generates a trip code.
And there's a FAQ on my website that you can click on the FAQ and it'll explain exactly how to generate your own trip code and you can have your own too.
And this is a way you can post privately and anonymously and still have a A, uh, identity, so to speak.
Okay.
Now I, because of, of the situation we're in a little bit here, uh, dicey, right?
So everything's cool, but, uh, I'd like to show that on, on the screen, but I can't, I don't think I should do that because I don't think you should do that either.
You have savvy users.
I'm one of your, one of your members, by the way.
I know, and I'm thrilled to hear that.
Now wait, what I am going to do, however, is I'm going to show my website, which I am allowed to do, and so I'm just going to show people where they can get the link.
I can send you the link here, just a second.
Well, I know you can, but I want people to see a certain picture, okay?
And, you know, I hope this is not going to crash us.
So let's... So anyway, I want people... Well, I'm not going to show the whole picture.
So I'll... Because I have a certain picture of a certain post.
And it's an important post from this organization.
And so, hold on one second.
I'm sharing my screen.
Yes ma'am.
All right and this so that people can go to my website and if you click on this particular article you will see a picture of a certain post that was made okay and this is a historical it actually says it was made in 2017.
Can you click on that?
What?
Or you can't click on it?
I don't want people to, that's as long as I'm going to keep that on there.
So I just want the people watching to understand what I'm going to refer to here because I think it's really important because it's coming to the floor right now, right?
That particular post.
And I don't know if you've seen it.
Have you seen it?
It was in the picture that I sent you that you, you know, it's on the link.
Okay.
For the show on my website.
Before the show, we have the troops in Texas.
No, not that one.
It's about the military.
I have the link here.
I'll click on the link and I'll click through.
Okay, the only way is military.
Yeah, okay.
I have seen that as well.
Okay, now that's a very old one.
My question to you That would be like the third day of the letter programs.
Okay, did that appear first on what we call 4chan or was it on your site?
I'm not sure quite honestly because you see this scar here when they cut out half my neck and they cut off half my tongue that's why I lisp now.
I was on cancer treatment at that time so So you don't know exactly when that... No, I don't know when they moved or anything, but I actually got super into this.
It was the summer of 2018?
2019.
I'd say three years ago.
Okay, so you might be something of an expert on these posts, right?
Well, I've read them all.
Okay.
Yeah, but I'm not the guy that decodes them.
Okay, but are you still good at decoding them or not?
Probably, yeah.
If you ask me, I've got opinions on most of them.
Oh, all right, cool.
So, as you watch them emerge, there is an interesting thing that goes on with JFK Jr.
and all those posts, right?
Yes, ma'am.
Well, I don't know if he's alive or not.
I don't.
contradiction where they're saying one thing kind of one minute and then later they're saying another thing.
Yeah.
About him being alive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if he's alive or not.
I don't.
But I do know they never found his body.
OK, well, I've done I think you might know that I've done extensive search on this subject.
I've heard you speak on it.
Okay, so I'm not going to do that here.
I just wanted to bring it up for people because I think a lot of people are aware of that and some people won't have tracked that back, you know, they won't know about the different posts and so on and so forth.
um now in terms of this is just looking at as a in a sense a PR campaign to reach the people because they somehow knew in advance that they were not going to be able to go directly to the people because the mainstream would ignore them right so they needed a method to communicate And this is an ingenious method that they chose, okay?
And it did work, you know, for the people that followed it, it worked.
And I'm just curious, were you already kind of in the know when this all happened back in those early days?
No, I wasn't.
Okay, so did those posts come as, you know, did you learn through the posts?
Did you become more aware of this whole craziness that we're in?
I wasn't really paying attention to this.
I was running a business and a farm and healing and I wasn't paying attention at all.
I would just make sure my stuff was up.
When I paid attention is when they deplatformed me.
I said, wait a minute, we're not breaking any rules.
We're not breaking any laws here.
Why am I turned off?
And I've been in the internet for 20 years.
Why can't I get back on?
What is going on?
It took me about 90 days to get a new website and a new company up that I could be on the internet with.
And you know what?
The assholes that shut us off apologized for it just a couple of days ago.
They said, well, we really shouldn't have done that.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, who are they?
A guy named Prince at a company named Cloudflare.
Oh, you're kidding.
The day before they went public is the day they shut us off.
And then I couldn't after they shut us off so publicly in all the newspapers and everything.
Nobody would touch us after that.
I couldn't get on another network anywhere.
And of course, my domain name was totally shut down.
Nobody would take it.
So So when you moved your domain and finally got a new one up and running, did Q come back?
Yes, Q came back because it's the same server, same system, everything.
We kept it the same, but it's a new company.
Okay, let's talk about, because you know the FBI are in the news now, and let's talk about were you intimidated by the FBI?
I have been intimidated by the FBI several times.
They lawfare you.
You have to hire an attorney.
You've got to show up at subpoena events.
You've got to do grand juries.
And they don't pay you for that.
You've just got to go.
You've got to show up, or you've at least got to send an attorney and have him put paperwork together.
It's money every time.
Okay.
And the FBI loves to do that to you, and we always comply with them, because if you don't comply with the FBI, you get turned off the internet and you end up in jail.
They will just come subpoena your servers and shut down your data center.
Okay, so, but did they come in person?
Several times they've come in person.
Really?
And when they came in person, did they search your premises and things?
They came with a search warrant one time to my registered agent in Nevada.
Interestingly enough, that search warrant I've seen now, and that was in 2019, I believe, I've seen that search warrant now.
About a couple weeks ago, I finally saw it, and it actually includes manufactured evidence.
Wow.
And because if you post on on ACOON on our website, and you make a screenshot of your own post, it says you on there, so you know that you posted that.
So the evidence that was turned into the FISA judge to get the search warrant against me, where they went to my resident agent who shut us off for that thank you, they basically deplatformed me from being a corporation at that time.
had manufactured evidence in it where they had turned in posts that they had made themselves and screen captured their use and submitted it to a judge to get a signature.
And that was the San Diego field office that did that.
Interesting.
Okay, so we have more evidence.
I have that evidence, yes, ma'am.
And I turned it into another FBI field office.
Trump would be very interested in, you know.
I'll give it to him.
If you could testify at his trial to the history of the FBI planting evidence.
Well, this was a moron FBI evidence, planning evidence, because when the evidence finally became public, I could see that it was manufactured, and I told Congress the same thing.
Interesting that they would be so internet dumb, so to speak.
They're not all internet dumb, and they're not all bad.
There are some fine FBI agents.
I don't doubt it.
I know some hero FBI agents.
All right, that's very nice to hear.
You know, they're not all bad.
All right.
Now, as far as, you know, I'm trying to paint a picture here for people maybe that haven't followed the story.
So, how many times have you gone to court?
Do you actually know offhand?
Court?
Over this particular thing, you know, been subpoenaed and had to... I've been subpoenaed to Congress two times.
Okay, and was that right?
And I went to court in El Paso, Texas because of the subpoena one time.
And I've been several other times that I have gag orders on.
Okay, now when you were giving your speech at that event that we were both at, speaking, you claimed that a certain sum of money that it's cost you over the years for this type of thing.
Are you able to say?
I can say probably a hundred thousand dollars.
On the just lawyer fees and travel expenses for staff and myself to Washington D.C.
and Chicago for just the subpoenas.
Now, what were they accusing you of?
I mean, what was your crime in their world?
Well, the El Paso people accused me of being responsible for the shooting.
The Congress just wanted to ask questions.
Well, did you have somebody posting about the shootings on your board?
Somebody posted about them, yes ma'am, but anybody can post on my website.
It's free to post on.
It's like a platform.
We're not publishers.
We own a platform with basically, what do you call that?
Tabula rasa?
The white paper that you write on.
We're the white paper.
We don't moderate it, because once you start moderating a website, then you're a publisher.
Like your website, ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
You moderate that, and it's mostly your publishing there, and that's good.
That's a good thing.
But if you want to follow the law in the United States, You can't do that unless you are super rich, like a Facebook or a YouTube... Meaning moderate.
I don't... We don't... The moderated websites, they moderate you because you've been kicked off of there.
So you're moderated, and you didn't break the law.
I'm certain.
I know you.
You're not a lawbreaker.
You didn't break the law, but they keep you up.
We don't have anybody moderating my website.
I have an admin who is part-time, who comes in and does stuff for me to help me when something doesn't work right.
Yeah, but you're publishing.
It's not like a It's not an open forum.
I would call yours.
It's not an open forum.
Like right now I have a very large or relatively large telegram channel.
And I don't moderate that either other than I'm the only one that posts there.
And then people make comments, but I don't moderate the comments.
Recently I had to delete a chat room I had established to accompany my website, I mean my Telegram, but we had so many trolls that we just couldn't control it.
It just got out of hand.
Telegram is the one that is following the rules there pretty much.
As far as I can tell, they're unmoderated.
And that's how you follow Section 230, which is Title 18, Section 230, I believe, which protects website owners.
And Telegram's a website.
They have it in an app, but it's an internet website.
They are protected from that because the person that's doing the posting Is responsible for their post not telegram because they're just the platform that they blank paper.
Okay, so, so you, you've now.
Had to go to court or, you know, I don't know if you call just go and go to court, right?
Deposition they really, but it was, but it was a courtroom.
It's a, it's a deposition.
Well, but the deposition in the second time was done by prosecuting attorneys.
And by attorneys that are the personal attorneys of the January 6th Committee.
How did that come about?
Why did they subpoena you for that?
To harass me, of course, because I had none of the information that they asked for, and I had sent them back a letter saying I don't have any of that information because I wasn't part of any insurrection or attack or anything.
I went to Washington, D.C.
that day, and I listened to the Trump, and I walked over to the Capitol, but I didn't enter the Capitol.
And from what I gather, They don't want to know, actually, what happened that day for the millions of people that were there that weren't causing trouble.
Right.
Because there were people on two sides of the Capitol.
The one side had very few people on it that were causing trouble, and some of them paraded through the Capitol, and some of them broke stuff, and some of them were really bad characters, too, but not all of them.
But the millions of people didn't even know that was going on.
They were on the other side of the Capitol.
Right.
You know, the one that faces the Washington Monument, because they'd walked that way from there.
But Congress brought me there just to harass me.
They knew I didn't have what they wanted.
And what they were specifically looking for, I can't tell you.
But someday this will be over and I'll be able to tell you everything.
But I am gagged on that.
Oh, okay.
Interesting.
Did you walk, you know, have you seen The Called, the 107 movie, The Called?
No, ma'am, I haven't seen that.
Oh, I do recommend it.
So, what The Called is all about is kind of being called to Washington to, you know, show your support for Trump.
Well, I know that.
I felt called.
In fact, they put me on TV.
They interviewed me for six hours, didn't get anything that they wanted, and they put me on TV that says I went there because I felt called.
Paraphrasing.
Right.
So yeah, I understand that.
Okay, so in The Called, there's a lot of footage of just regular people walking a very long way to reach the Capitol.
And they're filmed along the way.
And they're, you know, by this film, the filmmaker is Jennifer Mack.
You might have heard her name.
I, you know, she does a lovely job.
So The Called is what the movie is called.
And it's all about following Wano Savin, but you only see his boots.
from his home uh which this is really um i don't know where at that point it was but it's a trump tower right now um as you may know or maybe not you don't know anything about him but anyway and i've stayed in the trump tower one time okay it's nice it's very nice but my point is that he but he started at a farmhouse so i think it might have been one of his residences but it was somewhere in
Arizona, you know, Northern Arizona, Southern Nevada, wherever it was.
So he drives all the way across country, and that's what the movie's about.
And then he gets to Washington, and they join the people that are going on the way to Washington, you know, for the January 6th thing.
So it's a lovely depiction of the crowd and the really, if you want to know what the crowd was really like, that's, you can see it there.
It's, you know, hours of footage.
Yeah, hours of footage.
So, you know, it was a real American day, a day to, you know, be a patriot, patriotic kind of day.
You know, there was a great feeling among the people and all this comes, is translated on, you know, On the film.
So, I'm just saying.
So, you were there.
Send me a link to that later.
I'll be happy to.
I will, yeah.
Happy to.
So, at this point, you know, you got a little notorious or maybe a lot of notorious from 2017 when Q started posting until now, right?
Yes, ma'am.
And did you ever get any direct communication with Q?
Or if you did, are you allowed to say?
No, I never had any direct communication with Q. Okay, so it just you had the platform and they chose you?
Yes.
That's pretty cool.
And I support it, too, because, you know, I've read the Q Post, and it's like, this is pretty good stuff.
Absolutely.
It's not anything illegal, and there are some peripheral things from some obscure Q influencers that always end up in the news media that they talk about, and there's none of that that are actually in the Q Post.
For example, there was one lady that brought a whole bunch of cutlery to go assassinate somebody with steak knives and stuff.
The Q had nothing to do with that, and there were no Q posts about that.
That was just... But it's all over the news.
There's probably hundreds of newspaper articles saying that was Q.
That's the sort of thing that they'd use for misinterpretation.
I never came across that.
Okay, so just in terms of the scene we're in right now, and Q started posting again.
Did they start posting on your forum or did it go somewhere else?
The day we spoke in Thousand Oaks.
Yes.
When we were speaking there, Q started posting again.
And was it on your board?
Yes, ma'am.
So they're back there occasionally posting or did it sort of come out?
I thought it sort of came out.
It was like they just posted that weekend and then they haven't been back since then.
Oh really?
Okay.
Maybe they'll come back again.
I think they will.
You know that it's uh after that After that weekend of posting, I've been non-stop attack and down and re-networking things.
That just be up a little bit and now we're like so, it's so difficult to get to our website.
Half of America can't see us.
Why not?
Because the DNS poisoning.
Oh.
Half of the DNS servers in the United States of America, when you go to my website, won't take you there.
Oh, right.
Well, I was there today.
I saw it.
Yes, ma'am.
But I've had it happen in my own ISP here at home.
Right.
I've had that happen.
I've had it happen through my AT&T telephone.
You can't get there from your AT&T telephone, but you can get there from your T-Mobile telephone.
Oh.
Things like that.
And then you complain, and they say, oh, we'll fix that, and then eventually they fix it.
But what they've done during that time is they have tracked the people that are attempting to go there, because they put a landing page in there and track you.
Sure.
And this is... And that's probably... Super violation of your Fourth Amendment.
That's probably courtesy of the January 6th Committee.
Yeah, I have nothing but contempt for them.
Yeah, me too.
I'm sorry, maybe you're not feeling that way, but a lot of people out there are, well, that's all they know.
No, this is a... This is the lower house of Congress, the representatives, you know?
They're like...
Federally represent about enough of a mayor's worth of people and they are doing executive branch stuff and judicial branch stuff and congressional stuff all out of the lower house right now.
It's like they've actually have a coup going on there.
Well, they've also illegally, in my opinion, arrested a lot of Americans and detained them, as you know.
I've got a letter here on my wall from one of them.
He's in court right now, and he may have already been convicted, but he's in Tennessee.
I can show you up here.
Can you see that up there?
This guy's name is Kyle Fitzsimons, and he's a little bit of an artist.
- I'll try to get it in there.
- Yeah, yeah.
Oh, there it is, yeah.
- Okay.
This guy, this guy's name is Kyle Fitzsimons and he's a little bit of an artist.
I'll put that back there. - But he draws the American flag every day there in the DC dock where they keep those guys.
And because they won't let them have an American flag.
And they weren't letting them cut their hair or shave.
And that's why I had the big scraggly beard and my hair got long.
I still got the long hair.
My wife likes the hair.
She says, keep the hair.
I like that.
So but they're now they're letting them shave finally so I shaved but that's why before last time you saw me I was all scraggly it's because they weren't letting those guys shave.
Right.
Now, there's a movie been made, in case you don't know about that, that 107 and, sorry, I don't remember the other principals that are involved, but I went to a screening of the movie where the, I guess it was the director and another person who worked on it were speaking when I was at the Reckoning, you know, in Texas.
What's the name of the movie?
I didn't... Called Bloody Hill.
And it's available for free on the internet and specifically at 107daily.com.
That's 107's website.
So the number 107daily.com.
I've had a lot of interaction with the detainees, though, because my personal ministry is I write to prisoners.
And I'm not saying they're guilty or not guilty or anything.
That's an obligation as Christians to minister to those in prison, and I do that.
So I wrote to all of them that I could get addresses to, and a lot of them wrote me back.
That's how I got this, and that's how I found out what was going on in prison there.
Right.
In prison.
They're basically political prisoners.
They are.
Absolutely.
They're not getting treated right.
They've had some of them that have been beaten until they're permanently blinded.
They've had suicides in there because they've been in pre-trial confinement for misdemeanor charges for over 18 months.
I mean, this is not even legal, what they're doing.
It's not even legal.
No, they have the power, though.
That's why you were so clear I was listening.
It's unbelievable to me.
I don't know why the American military is allowing this to happen.
They should just storm the place, release all the prisoners, and, you know, get rid of these people.
The people in charge are firmly involved in the coup.
Mark Milley, firmly embedded with the Communist Chinese.
He's the Joint Chiefs.
Absolutely true.
That's absolutely true.
They're firmly part of that, and they're not going to let that happen.
And they've kicked out as many of the decent soldiers as they could.
I mean, there's still good ones in there, but they have to be silent and not have any sort of opinion on anything.
Well, it's too bad we don't have any of those soldiers being whistleblowers about the conditions and such.
Well, you may have that, but the problem is the communications are blacked out more than you can imagine now.
Regionally, we're sharded into different sections, and you can't get there from here.
If you're in North Carolina, oftentimes you can't talk to someone publicly.
You can still call people on the phone and talk to them, but put it on one of these streaming services?
And, you know, I'm streaming every day, and we have people coming in from all over every day, and we talk about this and say, well, I can't get there, or you can't get there, and then they call us up, and I can see you on the show, but I can't get into the streaming service, things like that.
They're blocking you.
And a lot of these people, they'll get out to a couple hundred people, we'll see what they have to say, and then that will be blocked.
Well, tell me, you're saying you're streaming, so your platform, is there streaming on there?
That's where you're streaming?
I live stream on my platform, Tora3.com.
When I got kicked out of YouTube, I made my own.
What is it called?
Tora3.com.
Do people go there?
I mean, can they get there to watch?
Thousands of people.
You get thousands of viewers there.
Really?
Yeah, I get a lot more views there than I got on YouTube after.
I was getting like 10 or 15, 20,000 views on YouTube videos, then all of a sudden it went to 10, and then all of a sudden they just kicked me off.
I'm back on there now.
For some reason, everything came back on, but I privated it, most of it, because I figured they'll decide to turn it off again.
Well, they left me back on, but then they deleted, banned me again.
So over and over again?
Yeah, so they just play that game.
So I made my own.
So can you spell it?
T-O-R-A tree dot com.
Tora3.com.
It means Mr. Tiger in Japanese.
Tora-san.
So cool, because I think people would like to know.
That's Trump's nickname in Japan, by the way.
Really?
Yeah.
Tiger?
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
I see all of the memes here with lions and stuff, but in Japan he's a tiger.
All right, cool.
Nice to know.
All right, so let me see.
You know, I don't want to keep going forever.
I like asking you questions.
Ask me more questions.
Ask me hard ones.
I'm just...
Where can I go?
Because I'm trying to let people that don't have any idea know what's going on, because this might be their one shot to hear me before they can't hear me, you know?
Okay, well that's an interesting statement.
So tell me, what do you know?
Go ahead.
What do you know about what's coming?
Do you know anything special?
Anything inside?
Because you've got such an interesting I don't have any insider information.
I've got intuition and I've got feelings and I see the way things are moving on the internet.
I believe that they're going to attempt to indict and arrest Trump soon before the election.
I don't think that they will be able to convict him, and I don't think they'll keep him locked up in pretrial confinement like they have other people, but I do believe they're going to try to do that.
I think that as this January 6th committee fails and fails and fails to get what they want, they want to To be able to invoke the 14th amendment, which I'm familiar with because I use that to keep the doors open on my website.
That's why they always say insurrection.
If they can prove that Trump is an insurrectionist and convict him of that, then he can't run for president because the amendment says so.
That's why they use those words.
Okay, now I appreciate that, but there's a caveat, and I've done a lot of investigation around this, and I have to say that he's still our President, which means he's technically a President, and he's also Commander-in-Chief.
Yeah, I understand that feeling too, the devolution.
It's not a feeling, in fact.
But yeah, and I want it to be true.
It's documented by law, and there's actually a young veteran, I don't know if you saw the video, but he just came out recently, and he literally walks you through the laws, and some of the executive orders, and Patel Patriot has done the same thing on devolution.
I read that and I want to believe that, and even if it is the law, unfortunately, the people that had the power in the military have already been removed.
And the people that are there now are not going to do it.
That's my opinion.
Okay, I appreciate that.
The trouble is that you might have read the material, but you might not have taken in or on board this idea that Trump had to establish by way of what's called COG.
I absolutely believe he's still the president.
Okay, but in that case, having established what's called continuity of government, they had to create a small cadre of the government.
And it's basically being operated out of Mar-a-Lago.
And that he had to actually, he hired Christopher Miller, for example, to be the Secretary of Defense.
And I believe he's probably still the Secretary of Defense under the COG.
Do you understand?
So the idea here is that if this is true, what I'm saying, which is documented,
then uh this is where it comes up where where they can't necessarily arrest him and throw him in jail if he's he's actually an officer a top executive or officer of our government and i understand what you're saying and so so i i just want to say that you know we're you know we are at war and yes there's two like regimes going on
And you go back to the Q-post where the patriots are in control and all of that.
They were in 2018.
Now, he's still the government, just like the government of Tibet is run by the Dalai Lama out of India.
But in the meanwhile the Chinese are running to bed.
The same thing is happening here.
Our government has already been taken over.
Yes, absolutely.
They just haven't, they haven't gotten physical really with people yet.
And they're letting, like we're still talking.
This is a good thing.
But soon they're going to have to crack down on even that because that's what you asked me what's coming soon more crackdowns more crackdowns more crackdowns on every little thing and eventually They're going to have to start suppressing us to the point that America says, this ain't America anymore.
Well, guess what?
It hasn't been America anymore since January, what, 19th?
When Biden went in there, it's not America anymore.
Right.
We have a government in exile.
That's right.
And that's what the devolution is.
That's exactly right.
That's practically what it is.
It is.
Otherwise, those 13 kids wouldn't have died in Afghanistan the other day.
And you know what?
The one lady's coming back to, I believe, Roseville, and she's going by the airport, and everyone's got flags coming and all that.
I was on the freeway that day.
I saw that.
And Biden shows up the next day.
And nobody shows up for him.
I just happened to be at the airport that day and the sheriff's shooing me away because I had to do business right where he was intending to sneak into a car to get somewhere.
Well, I mean, there's evidence that Biden, the real Biden, is dead anyway, but this is an actor and, you know, people have tracked this very well, as well as, you know, body doubles and clones and so on.
This is the state of affairs in America.
This is where we're at.
Now, recently, certain individuals have said that they believe that the, you know, what do they call it?
Is it called the Electronic Broadcasting System?
It's the system, you know, that's supposed to, we're supposed to have a day of... Emergency Broadcasting System.
Emergency.
So EBS, right?
Emergency Broadcasting System.
And then we're supposed to have certain days of darkness and certain broadcasts and so on.
So for a long time, they were saying, well, first they said it would happen and then they said it wouldn't.
And now again, they're saying it's going to happen.
Okay.
So, you know, we've been in this kind of strange, I don't know.
Groundhog Day, in a way, it seems like to me.
Yeah, they used that EPS on January 6, too.
I was there.
That's the first time I'd ever received one from the mayor there in Chicago.
The dogs are getting unruly here.
I'll give them a snack and they'll stop it.
All right.
So it doesn't appear that you actually listen to 107.
Is there some reason?
I listened to it.
The only time I ever heard him was in Las Vegas that day.
And I liked what he had to say.
He explained the dark to light.
He had the double down.
He had Melania Trump's dress there and he was explaining the meaning.
That's right.
He was on stage.
Okay.
Well, it's useful to know that that was John Jr.
And you explained it to me that he was incognito.
It's a certain kind of disguise.
And he was actually at the Reckoning this last weekend in Texas, you know, doing book signings.
All right, because I was curious, you know, what I'm interested in is also this idea that Q was the contact with the public.
Then 107 came forward right around two years ago in a big way.
He'd been, you know, sporadically coming on a few shows, but he didn't really do what he's doing now, which is a lot of shows.
But he's one of the few spokespeople to represent Q, the White Hats, and Trump.
Now, he doesn't claim to be doing that, but that's what he's doing.
There are very few, if any, others.
And just recently, we've had a few new faces hit the scene.
One guy calling himself S.G.
Anon.
Sounding kind of like a military guy.
But some of the things he says are questionable, apparently.
Talking about Flat Earth and talking about So certain things and other things are sound very legit.
The first one of the first things he says in one of his recent broadcasts is he starts the broadcast by saying that John Jr.'s death was faked.
And then he never goes into any detail.
That's he just states that, you know, you may be right on that.
And maybe he's in a witness relocation program, what have you.
You brought that up today and said that makes good sense.
But what's happening with the people, and I haven't heard of this S.G.
Anand, but what you just told me, like you'd have the one truth and you mix it with a lie.
What they're doing is spreading doubt and confusion.
And they will ask questions, and the questions aren't Socratic questions designed to sharpen you and make you smarter.
They're designed to dull you and confuse you and sow doubt.
So they'll give you the truth, and they'll mix it with, oh, and the flat Earth, and if you keep going far enough, you're going to run into an ice wall.
And I said, you know what?
I'm glad you believe that, but I don't believe that.
And I'm not saying you particularly believe that, Kate.
I don't.
But I do understand.
They will mix the two together, and this is what agents do.
Yes.
And not particularly good agents.
Yeah.
So, well, just bringing that... And I don't know S.G.
Anand, and I'm not saying that's him.
No, I don't.
You know, he's only done a few broadcasts, like three or four or something.
I know some other ones that I would give names, but I don't want to disparage your show.
I don't care.
But I, you know, other than, you know, to protect you and from lawsuits and that sort of thing.
So generally, you know, other than mentioning this, I don't I don't want to put down other broadcasters.
There are a lot of broadcasters out there that have a piece of the puzzle, and they have contacts feeding them information.
And opinions are different, though.
I have opinions, and not all my opinions are true, because I don't know all the truth.
But it's true that it's my opinion.
Yes.
But it may not be accurate, and I'll be the first to say that.
It's like we're differing a little bit on the president issue, but we're both agreeing that he's still president.
But I think that he's more of like a Dalai Lama type situation right now.
Well, it's a government in exile, but Florida's not that far away, and he's quite active in our world.
Or at least, even if that's a double Trump, you know, of Trump.
Because one would think, in terms of being, you know, really safe, the White Hats would have to put the real Trump into NORAD.
But I don't know, you know, I have no evidence of that.
I have no evidence that, you know, we have a double playing Trump right now.
But under the circumstances of how dangerous it's become, you know, to be, really to be an American, let alone a person of interest or a president, you know, so it's worth Okay, so I'm not going to keep you much longer.
Is there anything else you want to say to the people while I've got you on my show?
Because this is a good opportunity for you.
And I know there's zillions of people that want to hear from you.
Do you appear on your other, you know, your broadcast network?
Daily.
I'm on there Monday to Friday, usually at 6 a.m.
All right.
And do you take questions?
Yeah, we have a chat room there and you can ask me questions.
Cool.
And I'm easy to get a hold of, actually.
You can get a hold of me on Telegram or on... There's a lot of fake Jim Watkins on Telegram.
I'm sure you have that problem, too.
Yes.
But I can get a hold of on Gab.
I'm Jim Watkins at Gab.
And on True Social, I'm JimIsNotQ.
not Q. - Okay. - That's the easiest way to get ahold of me.
Hopefully you'll buy my book.
You know, this is a good book.
It's fun.
That's a sci-fi book.
I didn't get a chance to read it.
It is sci-fi, yes.
It's super sci-fi.
But it's based a lot on reality and it has some actual sketchy physics in it.
That's not flat earth.
Okay, so... I hope you enjoy it.
I was shocked when you were talking about dog ESP the other day in Thousand Oaks.
You mentioned dogs and telepathy and all that.
My book that I'm writing now is exactly about that.
Oh yeah, you were showing me.
I want to explain that.
What I was talking about was the fact that dogs have an ability to detect AI and AI surveillance in a room and presence.
I believe the military is probably using them in this capacity, but this is something I didn't dream this up.
This was whistleblower testimony from Captain Mark Richards, who's been in prison framed for a murder he didn't commit, a political prisoner in essence, by the Deep State, and he's been in prison for over 35 years.
I've done 12 interviews in person with him.
I've gone to what's called Solano Prison in Northern California.
Send me his address.
I'll send him a letter.
Not because he's like special but I do send letters to the prisoners.
Okay and his wife is on the circuit Joanne Richards and she often she's been on my show several times and she she's out there and uh you know keeps up a website that is got a lot of his writings on it so it's quite fascinating.
The last couple months I haven't watched hardly anything though Because we, I was attacked and attacked, attacked, attacked.
And big time attacks where they were using my website and when they, they would defeat like our CAPTCHA and then we'd put on a commercial CAPTCHA, they defeat the commercial CAPTCHA.
And when they defeated that particular one we put on there, I reported that even.
Because I figured that this is a national security issue, because there are a lot of government websites that were using that particular capture that they defeated on our website, and e-commerce sites and stuff.
So they turned their attack on us to take us down into developing a potential billion-dollar tool for organized crime on the Internet.
So I turned that in and as best I could.
And of course, you know, I don't ever get any response from that stuff, but you know, you, I'm obligated to do that kind of thing.
Okay.
That's very interesting.
Um, and, and since then I defeated them, so they haven't taken us down since then, but so now they're taking down the networks that we're on.
So I'm working on building a new network.
Interesting.
Uh, all right.
Is there, um, you know, besides Q being quite the famous poster, but maybe not so, you know, often now, not there now, um, do you have like, you know, people that become like well-known on, and people keep coming back to hear what they have to say?
Do you have those kinds of people?
On our website?
They, they do come back a lot, but they, they're anonymous.
That's that's where they anonymous handle.
I mean, Q is an anonymous handle.
Well, yeah, but the handles on the Q board are regulated.
Now, you can't come on there with a new handle.
What do you mean?
You can come on my website with a new handle, but not on the Q Research Board.
So you could go on to another research board or an interest board and have a trip code handle, but you can't have a new one on the Q Research Board.
What if you've never been there before?
Then you can only post anonymously there.
Oh, really?
Yeah, but people get to know them by the way they write, and there's quite a few people on there that are coming back all the time, and they do great research.
Cool.
Well, that's lovely.
Well, why don't you stay in touch with me, and, you know, if you see great research on your site... I'll send it to you.
What's happening?
Is that weird sound?
Is that my phone?
That was a phone, but... I have a lot of phones there.
I thought I had them all turned off.
I thought I had them all turned off.
Sure.
And so a lot of people might be interested in what's going on over there.
That's what I'm trying to give you up.
Sure.
And if you go there, they have pinned at the top of the board, and they're pinned so that you can't post to them, because they have facts on how to run on the particular Q research board on how-tos.
And I recommend reading those before you start making a lot of posts, because they'll call you names.
And they're names of endearment, but they use And I guess it's just because they're protected by the First Amendment to do that.
They use, you know, some pretty horrible names to be friendly to people.
You know, and I'm not going to say I'm on your show.
Right.
So it's not, it's not, there's no censor, censoring going on.
There's censoring there on things that are illegal.
That's about it.
Oh, right.
Good.
Not censored.
And on topic and advertising.
So, I have one last question for you.
It's a little strange question, but are you familiar with and do you understand the dark web?
Yes, ma'am.
I'm familiar with that.
Okay.
Cool.
All right.
Thank you very much for being on my show, Jim.
It's fun talking to you.
I enjoy talking to you, too.
I'm sorry if I talked over you sometimes.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
And maybe you can come back.
I would love to.
And maybe if you've got some more questions for me, just call me up.
I'll be on there.
Five minutes with Jim, no problem.
Maybe I'm driving to San Francisco or to Los Angeles or something.
But I can talk to you in the car.
Well, I think you have a lot of knowledge in that head of yours and I haven't been able to really, you know, get as much as, you know, I'm sure there's a lot more there.
Yeah, and where to begin is the thing because it's so much stuff that's come out the last few years.
I don't know where to begin and I was hoping you would be asking me pointed questions and I could be like, I wouldn't tap dance for you either.
I'd say this is it.
I'll give you the straight poop if you ask me the question.
Well, it depends what you might have knowledge of.
If I don't, I'll tell you.
I'm not gonna fake it unless I can see.
If it's something I have an opinion on, you know, I've never been to space, but I have an opinion that we don't live on a flat Earth.
You know, and my opinion on the president and the situation there, you know, I don't have a problem talking about that.
Or other things too, you know, just basic American opinion stuff, I've got that.
I know, but I'm not so... I mean, opinions can be useful, but I don't... that would not be... I'm, you know, I'm more... I have a lot of technical knowledge, too, that I can help people out with.
I think that would be really fun.
Because I've been doing the internet for, like, non-stop since 1997.
Right.
There was a time when people went to our websites, they thought we were the internet.
We had so many websites.
Not long, because it keeps growing.
Okay, well, I know I've kept you a really long time.
I just thought I would glance over here and see if there's anyone who had a burning question, because we have an audience.
Yeah, ask them, ask them if you have a chat room, ask them a question, I'll answer.
Yeah, if anyone in the chat room has a burning question before we sign off here,
um let's see if uh you know go ahead and type it in there in the chat i think i would see it um sometimes you never know what you're gonna see i have you on my computer here and my camera here so i can't see anything else really okay can someone share his links okay so the person his links are already been spoken in this but they've also been uh They're also posted to my website.
And my website, when I advertise the show, is there.
But it's projectcamelotportal.com.
And you'll see the article that contains the links.
Specifically, his link is, why don't you say it?
A-K-U-N dot top.
Okay, so it's a funny URL because it ends with T-O-P dot T-O-P.
That's a new one.
And then here on the board it says 8kun, K-U-N.
Yeah, so the number 8, K-U-N, dot, T-O-P.
That's his main website, but we also discussed... And I have my contact information up.
A streaming platform that he has.
Which, tell me again, it's Tora, T-O-R-A dot... Three.
Tora, the numeral three, dot com.
Tora three.
Numeral three dot com.
So, um, those are the main ones.
Right.
Tora three dot com.
Yeah.
Okay.
There we go.
Tora three.
Oh, the number, that's not a Roman numeral.
No, not that.
No, not I, I, I. No.
No.
Okay.
So, torah3.com.
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
And that's where you stream and you have shows every morning?
Seriously?
Yes, ma'am.
Every morning?
Monday to Friday.
But there's always somebody online.
And whoever is first come, first served for the front page.
The next person that logs on live, their show ends up on the front page.
So that's why you'll be on the front page for a while, then someone else will come on.
But you can, inside it, your show will still be listed.
All right.
Very interesting.
And you built that platform.
Yes, ma'am.
Lovely.
All right.
Well, I'm going to let you go, Jim.
Have a great Friday night and everyone else.
I'll be on the radio in a couple hours here.
A couple hours?
You mean in the morning?
I'm on Revolution Radio with a flat earther.
Oh, you are?
Yeah, actually.
Okay.
I do the story behind the story every Friday night at 7 p.m.
Pacific.
Oh, so you have a radio show?
Yes, ma'am.
On Revolution Radio.
It's called The Story Behind the Story?
Yes, ma'am.
All right.
Well, I'm sure that's going to be great for people to hear as well.
It's one of the oldest radio shows now.
It's been on for like over 30 years.
I've only been on it like five or six years now.
Well, that's still substantial.
I was on Revolution Radio for around five years, I think it was, or less than five, because I went to other radio, I did other radio shows.
Nighthawk passed away and his widow's running it now.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Interesting.
All right.
Well, thank you very much again for being here, Jim, and sharing some of what you know, and let's have you back if you're interested, and we'll pick a bunch of topics, okay, in advance.
That way we'll know which directions we can go.
All right?
Sure.
You got it.
All right.
Thanks for having me on, Carrie, and you're a super awesome sauce.
You really are.
Thank you very much.
And so are you.
And thanks everyone for being here and watching and take care and see my latest articles and videos all on my website projectcamelotportal.com.
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