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Aug. 9, 2022 - Project Camelot
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SCIENTIST STEVE SEDLMAYR: EZ WATER AND THE SHROUD OF TURIN
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Thank you.
Thank you.
So we've got Steve Settlemyer, a wonderful scientist and inventor, and he is the founder of Davinia Water.
And I've been using this water for quite some time.
I think it's excellent.
But this is not an advertisement for the water.
It's actually an investigation into the science behind the water and some new new things that they're getting involved in.
Steve is, I guess, consulting regarding the Shroud of Turin, and I think that that would be of great interest to our audience.
So, Steve, welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me, Carrie.
I appreciate it.
Well, it's a delight, and, you know, I love your wonderful scientific mind, so I think that People should, you know, take advantage of this opportunity.
I have done several interviews with you and your wonderful daughter, Kirsten, but this sounds like it's going to be a sort of a different twist in things.
So why don't you go ahead and explain what's going on?
It is.
This water has been an amazing journey.
And I think people have totally and completely misunderstood and underestimated water in the first place.
And it goes all the way back even to the Bible and Genesis.
And it's been an amazing journey for me.
I started out probably my professional life as a rocket scientist.
And I went to work for Martin Marietta when I was 16 and 17 years old as a theoretical mathematician and spaceflight mechanist.
And soon after that, I worked for a company called ARF, which was Arthur, Ralph, and Felix Massacheski.
And they were the inventors of the underground suitcase radio during World War II.
that the Polish forces and the French forces used to set up the network to communicate with the Allies.
And it was in a suitcase before they were big radials.
They invented this suitcase that carried around.
There's been movies on it, actually.
And there I got interested in RF technologies and electromagnetic fields.
Then from there I went into displays, invented a laser display, the first laser projector.
In fact, most of the laser projectors used today are based on my technologies and the flat screen TVs.
When I got out of that and semi-retired, as you know, I got into water for My wife, because she wanted water, and little big notes to me, I invented a special type of water.
And trying to understand that water led me deeper down the rabbit hole into scientific investigation.
And when I went into that investigation, it led me to some technologies that we can explore materials with
By looking at their magnetic and electric resonance in the molecular fields, which then led me to being able to assist or suggest some of the testing that occurred on the Shroud of Tern, because they're kind of at a dead end.
The Shroud of Turin, which I'll get into a little bit, as a lot of people may or may not know, is the supposed body wrapping of Jesus Christ when He arose from the dead on Easter Sunday, when they wrapped Him, when He was crucified.
He was buried, he was wrapped in this linen, which linen is made from flax.
A lot of people take flax for health, flax seed, but that flax plant is what makes linen.
I didn't understand that before this, but they take the flax plant, they bead it, strip the insides out of it, soak it, go through quite a process, and then weave it into linen.
And during Christ's time, it used to be one of the most expensive cloths that there was.
And it actually came from India in that region, and because of the silk road was imported through the Middle East.
And only the rich people could afford this flax linen.
Even today, linen, if you buy linen, most of it's made out of flax.
Which is kind of interesting.
And it's the same health food that we all eat, is flax, but they also use it for clothing.
And so that led me down that and doing, trying to find out some of the Enigmas that are in the Shroud of Turin, which there's a lot of them.
They can't explain it.
Can't explain the image on it.
Can't explain why this thing did what it did.
So this water has led me unbeknownst or leading up to the water most of my life.
And even in the Bible, it's amazing because When they talk about the creation of the Earth, the people have to go back and look at this Genesis and re-read it again.
It talks about how the Earth was formed out of nothing.
Where's the Big Bang?
And it specifically talks about the Big Bang.
They said there was nothing, there was light, and there was this cloud, this Mass, then there was mass.
And that's exactly, to the T, what the Big Bang says.
The Big Bang says there was nothing, then there was light, before there was mass, energy.
And then in the first couple milliseconds, this energy spread out before it was even mass.
And then it turned into the nebulae or everything that we see with the new telescopes that we've put up in the space, the James Webb Telescope.
And we see these vast nebulas, which are just masses of gas that have not coagulated into matter yet.
Then it coagulates into matter.
And when that matter coagulates, it coagulates into planets or suns.
And that's exactly what the Bible says.
And then it says, after we coagulated into the earth, the first thing that happened was water was formed on earth.
But the whole earth was just pure water.
There's no land.
But as the water evaporated and went up into the atmosphere, it says it separated the dome of the atmosphere and the earth.
And that's exactly what we have.
We have this dome around the earth, which is called the atmosphere, which is loaded with water.
And as the water evaporated, it says the land formed, which is amazing because that's how the earth formed.
There was water The water heated up.
It formed the atmosphere, which protects us from radiation and solar energy and everything else.
And the land deformed.
And it said that all the animals started appearing in the water.
What's even amazing about that, they talk about the great sea monsters.
But the great sea monsters were dinosaurs.
Then it talks about how these things migrated onto land and changed.
Just like we talk about evolution now.
Some people believe in evolution, some don't.
But it talks about how everything migrated on the land.
Then it talks about the plants, how the plants started growing on land, and plants could not grow without water.
And it said until the earth started raining and springing water up out of its source, there were no plants.
And because the plants formed and the animals started moving up onto the land to feed themselves.
It's utterly amazing.
It follows everything that we're discovering now about water.
And even when they talk about the tree of knowledge, the tree of life, the tree of life wasn't formed until water flowed on it.
And the tree of life was formed from the land and from the water and the water fertilizing And bringing the nourishment to the tree of life.
And it's almost the situation we're in today, is water is actually our life foundation.
I don't know if you know, and I'm sure you do, 90% of our body is water.
90% of the molecules in our body is water.
It's water.
From the day that life was created on this earth, it was caused by water.
Till the Garden Eden was caused by water.
Man was formed out of the earth and out of water.
And here we are today.
And it's almost funny because the Bible almost hints that the original sin that we created, besides going against God's wishes, was the pollution of the tree of life.
We polluted the waters.
And since then, we have been polluting water more and more and more.
And so when I invented this water, I didn't quite know.
And I don't want to say I invented it.
I stumbled upon it.
I created it by the device I made.
I still give all the credit to God, I'm just one of his dummies here on Earth.
I was lucky enough to stumble upon this.
But what I did, and this will tie into the Shroud of Turin, is I created a vehicle that used the electromagnetic fields to change the structure of water.
So I actually changed water.
And the way it did it, I took water that had pollutants in it.
Of course, all water that we drink now, that you drink Pavinia, has pollutants in it.
And those pollutants actually changes the cells in your body.
For the best or for the worst, but they change the cells in your body.
And so, when you drink this water, we found out, we just started out thinking it was clean water.
And when we did, it started doing some strange things that other waters didn't do.
It was thicker than other waters, has a gel-like substance.
It was dissolving plastics.
And we thought, well, that's not quite healthy.
So we raised fish in it and found out that fish turned out super healthy.
And when I went to test the water, I thought, what's the one animal on the face of this earth That depends wholly on water, lives in water.
And it dawned on me, fish.
Yes, we need water.
We die with it.
We don't have it in three days.
Take a fish out of water and it's going to die very quickly.
So I said, if anything is dependent upon water, it's fish.
Put fish in it, and they kept getting bigger and healthier and prettier, and they were turning into Schwarzenegger fish.
They were getting a nice big chest and small waist and had a lot of meat on them, and they never died from diseases or anything.
I thought, well, that's kind of strange.
So then we started using it for animals and dogs and cats, and they kept getting healthier and bigger.
And I said, well, if dogs do it, cats do it, fish do it, any animal we give to it does it, it's got to be healthy for humans.
Of course, my wife had been drinking it ever since I made it, but I was doing the testing on it.
And then we had a gentleman come along that had been in kidney failure and needed a kidney transplant.
And so we put him on the water and it repaired his kidneys.
It turned his kidneys back to normal.
So he no longer needed a transplant.
So we knew it was the healthy water.
So then I said, I got to understand what this water is because this water is really unique.
I met a gentleman, Dr. Russell Roy, who was head of material sciences at Penn State University.
And Dr. Russell Roy was one of the founders of material science in the United States, in the world, actually.
And that's the science where you study materials and how they're formed, and how they interact with other substances, and how you can change the formation of them.
And so, when I went in and showed him what I had done, He said, gosh, that isn't the worst, but gosh, you did something that I've been trying to do for many, many years.
I said, how did you figure it out?
And I said, just, you know, the way I put this thing together.
So we went to Penn State and started testing it with something called Raman spectroscopy.
And Raman spectroscopy is a pretty new And if you want to test any type of material and see how it's formed, you would probably use Raman's spectroscopy.
What Raman does is shoots a laser beam, or a monochromatic light, at the material.
And that light interacts with the resonance of materials.
And resonance, since I found this out too, plays importance in everything.
You can change your mood by listening to music with resonance.
Make it happy, you can make it sad.
There's people that do have resonance lights that help heal people.
So resonance is Tessa found out resonance can tear buildings down, destroy bridges.
Resonance is built into every molecule in this universe, period.
And what it does is it resonates or it oscillates at a particular frequency, and in fact that's the key to gravity, is resonance.
And that's one thing that will be found out in the next 20 or 30 or 50 years.
And Einstein hinted at it when he talked about his gravity wells.
And those gravity wells are actually residence wells.
And things that are at the right frequency fall into the wells and things that don't, don't.
And that's how gravity works.
Anyhow, so what we did was we used this machine to test the residence of the water And found out the way that I had formed the water with the electromagnetic field, which was in a unidirectional direction, realigned the molecules in the water between the hydrogen and oxygen, and interjected energy into that resonance well.
And by doing that, it stretched the molecules between the oxygen and the hydrogen.
And it actually changed the water molecule.
And so what that has done is make hydrogen more bioavailable to people and oxygen.
And that has a lot of ramifications.
We took this same water and we're able to take 80% water and 20% gasoline and run an engine on it.
and 20% gasoline and run an engine on it.
So I took 20% of the gasoline, 80% of my water, mixed them together and ran an internal combustion engine off of that.
And it ran just fine.
And the reason is, is because there was so much oxygen available, and the hydrogen was available, that when the gasoline heated up and started burning, it released the oxygen and hydrogen into their monatomic molecules, hydrogen and oxygen.
The hydrogen then burnt, And the oxygen helped that combustion.
And by burning it, it actually turns back into H2O.
So the emission was water back out of the exhaust again.
That's why people like hydrogen for cars is because it's non-polluting.
OK, so let me ask you, though, couldn't your water, if you're saying your water is capable of doing that, then people who are having, you know, we're having problems paying for gas right now, you're mixing water with 20% gas.
That sounds like a solution.
It is a solution, but because we're such a small company, the cost is expensive.
Were they to do this on a large scale, it would be very inexpensive.
And yes, there would be a solution to it.
And it's interesting because hydrogen is the number one molecule in the universe everywhere.
In fact, it makes up about 80% of all molecules in the universe, of the known universe that we know.
Which means every galaxy, every solar system, every sun, every planet, 80% of it is hydrogen.
Number one molecule.
Number two molecule is helium.
Number three molecule is oxygen.
Helium is really non-reactive.
It doesn't do much.
But oxygen, as you know, is very reactive.
And so hydrogen and oxygen got together to form water.
And in fact, when I started studying this, one of the impetus was that we don't know what water looks like on distant planets.
It's probably not in the same form as it is here.
Yes, it's two hydrogens and oxygen.
Or it may be three hydrogens and two oxygens.
There's a lot of speculation on that.
So Lockheed, Martin Marietta, and Renisler Technology University were hired by the government to do a study with Raman spectroscopy to understand what the forms of water would be on distant planets.
And their study showed that it would be very different than what it is here today.
Different pressures, different electromagnetic fields, different solar radiations, that sort of stuff.
So the water that we find here on Earth is actually pretty unique to Earth.
And it came out of the formation of the Earth.
When the Earth was this globulous mass and it formed into the ball, there was probably a hot mini-sun at the center of our Earth.
And as we know, there's a hot center today with a magnetic field which protects us.
And as that goes through its nuclear reactions down there, one of the thing of the decayed elements is hydrogen.
And so there's hydrogen gases way at the center of the Earth.
Another decay element is oxygen.
And so as our Earth is still hot and emitting these things, it's emitting hydrogen and oxygen.
And of course those are gases, so they try to lift up, they try to go to the surface of the Earth.
And as they cool down, they turn into their monatomic molecules, and you put hydrogen and oxygen together, they're going to form water.
So as they're rising up, they form water towards the center of the earth, and they start forming these pools of water.
And because we're spinning, and this earth is spinning, the centrifugal force raises the water to the surface of the earth.
And that's probably how we got all the water on this Earth.
Not from asteroids, not from anything else hitting this Earth.
This Earth made its water, and it's still making water today.
It's probably making oil, too.
Right, and that is, you know, there's a lot of false information about that out there, as you know, right?
Yes.
So, yeah, I mean, Deborah Tavares talks about the hidden water, groundwater, natural water that's under the earth, under the surface of the earth.
And so this is the fact that we are not, we have no shortages of water actually, any more than we have shortages of oil.
That's correct.
I used to think, I went to Colorado School of Mines and when I went there, Back in the 60s and 70s, we were taught, you're not going to find oil more than 1,000 feet deep.
And then all of a sudden, they were finding them at 2,000 feet, 5,000 feet.
Now they go out to the ocean, they drill five miles down from two miles in the ocean on the top, that's seven miles down, and they're still hitting oil.
And that oil is so vast and so immense, That they're terribly afraid of when they drill, as they do the Exxon spills and stuff like that, that that oil could pollute the entire ocean.
There is no shortage of oil.
Trying to get to it is harder because we've sucked everything out of the local areas, but they figure we have enough oil and gas for over a thousand years yet.
Now, I personally, myself, I think there's better ways of getting energy than oil.
It's not nuclear either.
Nuclear is a good solution, but the pollution from nuclear is we've never solved.
But we have all this free energy.
We have the sun.
We have the wind.
We have the rain.
We have water.
You know, that's more than enough what we need.
Money, those additives follow the money, but the money's in oil right now.
Right, now I know you kind of have made a detour a bit and I just want to bring you back to the Shroud of Turin because we did, you know, you did alert me that you wanted to talk about that and I'm not sure that we've really understood what role you're playing.
How does a person who is a scientist such as yourself, who I guess would be considered an expert on water, what has that got to do with the Shroud of Turin?
Okay, if you remember, I talked about this Raman spectroscopy, and when we were studying water, and we had to look at the molecular bonds in the water that I created, and we had to look at the resonance of it, and what that did was tell us as we Went through a mathematical deconvolution or breaking down of the graphs of this thing.
We found out where the energy lies between the bonds in the water.
As we did that, you know, we started marketing this water, start selling the water.
Found out it's also deuterium depleted water, which is, deuterium is a heavy hydrogen.
And we found out that's healthy for the body, too.
So, all of a sudden, I got a little interest in the Shroud of Turin.
And I looked at it, and I started reading it.
And as I was reading it, I realized that they had hit a plateau the same as I had hit the plateau in the water.
The Shroud of Turin has an image on it.
This image is about, they figure a few tenths of a thousandths on the surface of the threads of the linen, where it would have made contact with the body.
This is where it gets interesting.
There are no pigments on it, there are no dyes on it, there's no paint on it, there's nothing.
So that image was made in a very unusual way.
When they looked at it, they found out the image was made from carbonized dehydrated cellulose on the top of the fibers of the cloth that was facing the body.
And in fact, the front on the dorsal or the back had this perfect image on it.
Now, there's some unusual characteristics about this image.
When you're trying to lay a body to rest before sunset, and he's just been crucified, and you have a few minutes to get him down off the cross and put him into the tomb, you're going to wrap him very quickly in the shroud, maybe tie some things around him.
So there's going to be creases in the image.
There's going to be folds in the image, wrinkles, that sort of stuff.
Maybe blood is going to, the fresh blood is going to hit and it's going to clot everywhere and it's going to spread.
Just like when you have a cut on your wrist or arm or something and you put a wrapping on it, you notice it doesn't form an image of it.
It spreads out and becomes a big clot on the thing.
But that never happens to this.
And when they started looking at the image on it, they found out the image was made in a unidirectional direction.
That is, if you took a body like this, some sort of energy went out of every cell in the body, went out this way, contacted the shroud of Turin, And created a unique layer on the shroud that's unidirectional.
It doesn't go this way, doesn't go that way.
It was perfect this way.
One for one match, straight up and straight down.
And so the image is a perfect image.
It's also a negative image of the body.
They didn't find that out until they started taking photographs of it.
And when they did, in development, they found out it was also 3D image.
That is, the characteristics of the shroud and the image that it was formed was perfect, unidirectional, just like in my water, went up and made a contact with one molecule here and influenced it.
And it influenced it in a way that it was the distance of the body to the cloth and the depth of the body.
So when they developed this and applied shading to it, a 3D image popped out of this thing, which is pretty amazing.
So now you have to start supposing what could do that.
Well, since there's no paint or pigments or anything on that, it has to be some sort of molecular energy that created this.
And the molecular energy that created this could be a neutron, could be a proton, could be a photon, But what they haven't analyzed is the bond between, and it's carbonized, it's a double bond of carbon.
They haven't been able to analyze the energy that was put into that bond, how much energy was in there, and what could have created that, whether it was a neutron, positron, or photon.
That's where Raman spectroscopy comes in in my investigation that I did in the water, is that through Raman spectroscopy, I will be able to characterize that bond that's on that image.
And because that bond will have a directional, by using polarization on it, I will be able to tell how much energy created that.
Now you gotta remember, a flax, if this is the flax thread, the image lies up here.
Not through here, not down here, and there's of course hundreds of threads here that makes up that fiber.
But the image is only up here, on this very, very top.
And it's carbonized, dehydrolyzed, Flax.
And so I'll be able to tell where the flax came from, what part of the world it came from, because every molecule has a signature about it in the world where it came from.
I'll be able to tell the direction of this thing and make sure that everything's directional through the entire shroud.
And I'll be able to tell how much energy that was put into it to create it.
We'll be able to take another linen irradiated with different amounts of energy.
Look at those bonds compared to this bond.
Now that kind of tells us how the image was created.
But it doesn't give the whole story.
Because here's a body that disappeared.
And there's no No sign of it left.
There's no skin left on the shroud.
There's no parts of it.
There's only blood.
And we're going to analyze the blood, too.
Because this is what's interesting.
We're going to analyze that blood.
The blood is never oxidized.
It's never turned black.
It's still reddish in color.
It's the only known blood in the entire history of mankind that's never oxidized.
It's still reddish in color.
And they have identified the blood as AP type and from the Middle East, but we don't know what that blood really is.
And the other thing that's interesting about the blood is where he was beaten on his back, but the flagellum, the flagellum was a Roman ancient tool of torture that had little beads on it of lead or bone on a couple of leatherettes and they would beat the guy.
When they did that, of course, it would have brazed the skin and ripped the skin off.
So when it was buried in the shroud, there should be skin there, and there isn't skin there.
But when the blood, when you're beaten like that, and you have an open wound, the first thing is that you tend to try to clot.
And when you clot, The red blood cells tend to move together to form this hard clot in your arteries or on your skin.
And when it does, it forces water out, the serum out, so you get a ring.
You get a ring like this.
You can't see.
A ring like this, like a crater.
If a crater hits the moon, you know, you have an indentation, and then you have all this ejected material out.
That's what happens when you clot.
And what's around the clot is serum.
Water.
Thank you.
Yeah, water.
And it's still there.
Unbelievably, it's still there.
And so, when they looked at it, they photographed this thing, enlarged it hundreds of times, put it under a microscope, and found out these pits that were in every wound of his.
The pits were there.
And the serum was there.
And they found it.
Now, no painter could ever, ever duplicate that.
Not for hundreds and hundreds of wounds.
He would have not made a one millionth or a two millionth of an insertion around every wound and put this serum and then put the blood clots on there.
Just wait one second.
So, uh, but you're saying you're talking about the wounds and the shroud of Turin.
Maybe I got this wrong, but I didn't think it was full body.
I thought it was.
No, it's full body back and front.
Everything.
Okay, everything.
Okay.
Yeah, they even they even found out that one of the When you look at it, you can actually see that one of the legs was dislocated on the image, because when he crossed his feet, they had to dislocate one of his legs to be able to put the nails through, and you still see that.
And on the shroud, another thing that's amazing is that you only see four fingers, and you see a folded thumb.
And when they drive the nail through the hand, the first thing that happens is the thumb folds in like this.
And they found that on all the other crucified people.
And so you can't really see it.
But the other thing that they're now starting to find through some x-ray is they're starting to see images of teeth, like it was an x-ray image.
They found the thumbs tucked underneath.
of it, and have found a lot of other things through this x-ray photography.
And so, the other interesting thing is they found 56 different pollens embedded in this.
Of the 56, 48 of them only come from Jerusalem, or the Middle East, and six of them are only grown in Jerusalem, I believe three of them are extinct and have not grown since Christ's time, and they're still there.
The other six pollens were from where the shroud has been during its lifetime, when it was moved around.
But 48 of them are unique only to that area.
Six of them only to that time.
And there's hundreds of other things that are just amazing about this thing.
So what I'm trying to do is identify that this blood is unique and identify that the way that the carbon bonds were formed is unique and how much power was behind them.
And even if somebody was painting a picture of this thing, this thing is 14 feet long by three and a half feet wide.
And 14 feet long is just enough for a man that was about six foot to be wrapped all the way around and around his head.
Three feet and a half is enough to go around the body.
And what's amazing is that There's no wrinkles in it.
There's no distortions in the picture.
If we were to take a cloth today and put it over somebody and pat it down, there'd be wrinkles in it, tied it down where the ropes were and stuff like that.
But this is a perfect picture, a perfect image with none of that in it.
Well, so how do you account for that?
Or do you?
You can't.
I mean, how do you do it?
Some of this is so beyond.
The closest thing that I could say, and I'm not saying this, but if he were an alien from Star Trek from 10,000 or 5,000 years from now, and they beamed him up, that might cause this.
I'm not quite sure that we had aliens beaming Jesus around the world, nor did I want to even hint that.
I believe Jesus was the Son of God, and I do that from a physical sense.
We talk about the Big Bang, and there was light, and there was energy, and it formed us all.
So you have to ask yourself, what happened?
What was before the Big Bang?
The first premise of physics, the very first one, is you cannot create something out of nothing.
You can change energy.
E equals MC squared.
Einstein was right about that.
But you can't create something out of nothing.
So there had to have been something before the Big Bang.
And the power that created that Big Bang Had to be immense.
Had to be infinite in our view.
Had to be totally and completely infinite.
Do you know there are a trillion galaxies that we've found now?
And in those, there are about a trillion stars and planets in there.
So now you're talking about a trillion, trillion Planets and stars, which you and I, nor anyone on the face of this Earth, cannot even comprehend, that have been alive for 13.2 billion years.
And there are some hints now that some physicists believe there was another Big Bang 32 billion years ago that might have collapsed and caused this Big Bang.
Which means there must have been another Big Bang before that, and another Big Bang before that.
And we can't even comprehend that time.
So the first premise is, you cannot create something out of nothing.
So there was something there, and it was the amount of energy that was there, we can't even comprehend.
I mean, we can't even get to the moon and back safely.
Here's something that created a trillion, trillion stars.
And just the amount of energy on this Earth, just one little planet Earth here, the amount of energy that we have here, we can't even comprehend.
Can you imagine a trillion, trillion?
Well, we're a little peanut on this in the galaxy.
We're nothing compared to the sun.
You know, we don't even have a trillionth of the power the sun does.
So the amount of power out there is just infinite.
And it's just infinite.
And so why could whoever's behind this, whatever was behind it, the Great Source, God, the Creator, whatever we call Him, for Him to do this on the Shroud of Turin is just peanuts.
But what we're trying to do is investigate how much energy created that image, which is pretty amazing.
I think we're going to find out it was more than the sun could ever create on it.
But that energy had to be regulated to a law.
When we're talking about neutrons, We can't make neutrons go here or there.
We just kind of knock a neutron out and it goes wherever it wants to go.
Or a positron.
This thing knew exactly how far it had to go, how much energy it had to do, and how far along.
And the energy was probably a trillionth of a second.
Probably had to quarter, maybe at the most, a quarter of an inch.
So it had to regulate that.
And it only had to go one ten-thousandths into this top fiber.
We don't know how to do that with radiation.
We don't know how to make it stop.
We know if we put radiation, we put a big four-inch lead wall through, it won't come through us that much.
But eventually they'll take that out.
But to release that much energy, that much energy, in that short of a time, in perfect harmony over the entire shroud, is mind-blowing.
Mind-blowing.
I can't even comprehend it.
I could comprehend a trillion, trillion stars more than I can comprehend how you would do that.
So you became interested in this shroud and you, you know, having your experiments and your background, you know, in black projects and so on.
And you, did you approach them?
Did you, you know, tell them that you could help them?
And was there a vetting process?
How did they sort of bring you on board?
I'm working with a man who wrote almost a definitive book called Test the Shroud.
I guess we won't be able to see it here.
Okay.
And he runs through all the tests that they've done, which is, there's been thousands of scientists involved in this, and they have run thousands of tests.
And they're kind of stumped right now.
Because they're thinking about, could it be neutrons, photons, or positrons that created this?
If it was, how do you do that?
And how do you make them unidirectional?
And are they unidirectional?
Well, when I heard them, I wrote them and said, hey, I've had some experience in this field about trying to identify The molecular structure of materials and how they were formed.
And I got such a positive result back that I mean they Mark, who's helping me, and another physicist, and someone else, said, we would love to, because we're stumped right now.
There's no way.
And so I started sending them some papers on some of the Raman testing, and some of the stuff they did, and they said, let's talk about this.
This sounds exciting.
It sounds like something that we could do.
The nice way, the nice thing about Raman spectroscopy, it's non-destructive.
Okay.
So I don't have to destroy anything.
I just have to shine a laser light at the surface and collect the reflections, the resonance back.
And by analyzing that, I can tell what the molecules are and how they were formed and how much energy was put into them.
And are they different than other molecules?
What I think we're going to find out is they're different from any other molecule on the face of this earth.
I think we're going to find out there's something totally different.
Okay, so now in the past we have talked about plastics in water and how detrimental that is actually to the ecosystem of the earth and the oceans, obviously.
And so you just earlier talked about how plastic somehow, I think you were saying your water dissolves plastic, is that correct?
Yes, that's correct.
And then you were worried that if it dissolved it, it might make it less healthy for the fish, for example.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I was afraid what it was going to do to us.
Things that dissolve plastic are probably... But then you discovered that it didn't, it wasn't bad, that it did some, that because of the way it broke it down.
So can you talk about why it's not destructive?
Yes, I can.
Jerry Pollack, who's the founder of EZ Water, found out that when water enters our body, it goes through a field change.
Actually, the water separates, charges, and it becomes more negative towards a hydrophilic surface, and the bulk water becomes positive.
And this all started because he was working with a Japanese gentleman who wanted to try to understand blood flow through veins.
And they found out in a vein, in your vein, that most of the blood in the serum is carried in the middle.
And the outer shell of it is the charge separation, where if this is your vein here, Most of it is carried in the middle of it.
And the outer shell out here is the charge separation towards it.
And they found out that the pollutants gathered in the middle and the purest stuff was on the outside.
And so they called that the exclusion zone or easy zone.
And so when one of the first things I did when I was testing this also at Penn State is I sent a sample to Jerry at his labs and Jerry tested the water.
And he found out, as he put in a statement to me, this was the best sample of EZ water that he's ever seen.
It wasn't the highest in the peak, but it was the clearest that he had ever seen.
And it had the less pollutants in it.
It showed clearly what the EZ zone was.
And so we started investigating that and found out that when you drink this water, this water is easy water in the first place.
And when you drink that, the body doesn't have to use any energy to create it.
When you drink water, one of the things that your body has to do is try to separate the pollutants from the good stuff.
If you have fatty liver or a liver that has a problem or kidney, it doesn't do that.
It doesn't do that very well.
So you're allowing more pollutants into it.
And the other thing that Jerry found out that a pollutants can either collapse this easy zone to nothing so that you aren't getting the benefits of water whatsoever.
And of course, that's where I think plastics do, they collapse it.
So you don't get it, or it can enlarge it, if you have the healthy stuff in it.
When he injected muscles and veins with an anesthetic, he found out that anesthetic actually collapses the easy zone to nothing, which means that there's no energy in that water, and it removes the energy from your cells.
And so you don't transmit electrons, And so that's why you don't feel pain, because there's no nerve transmission whatsoever.
Now, the opposite is true.
When you have a good operating functional body, you feel pain, and you're supposed to.
When you do something, you're supposed to know that you hurt yourself.
So what this does, this water, our water, You don't need energy to create it.
To create it in your body, your body has to do something to create and filter it.
You don't have to, this doesn't have to filter anything whatsoever.
And it goes immediately into the cells.
And when we get into the cells, of course, that's where the mitochondria is, and the nucleus, and the DNA.
In fact, this water is being used in a clinical study for heart studies with D-ribos in it to see if we can help rebuild the energy in the heart after a heart operation.
Because after a heart operation, your energy drops.
Any operation on the body, your immune system drops, your energy drops.
60% of people that go in for a heart procedure go into AFib at some time after the operation.
AFib is a major problem because the mortality of it, or the extended stay, or the cost of it, and the amount of time it takes.
This D-rival study that we're doing with our water is, we're hoping will show a major reduction in AFib.
It will rebuild the energy in the heart immediately, you don't go into AFib, and therefore the patients will have a better outcome.
Okay, well, what about, you know, we've been through this COVID, I consider it a bioweapon, But it contains, I don't know if you're aware of this, nanographene oxide.
This has been proven.
So, have you looked at that?
Because nanographene oxide has now been found in our clothes, in our water, in our skies, coming in through chemtrails.
You know, so it's been distributed not only in, you know, with the jab itself, Which is part of the concoction that they put together.
So, it's pretty ubiquitous.
It's everywhere.
Are you aware of nanographene oxide?
No, I'm not, but I will be in a matter of a day.
It's not ours.
So, what would be interesting is to find out whether or not your water can remove Like when you drink it, could it act to remove nanographene oxide from the cells and in theory from the body?
In other words, if it was able to do that, at least dissolve plastic, it does stand to reason that it's possibly could have some kind of effect, some interesting effect on nanographene oxide.
Now packaged with the nanographene oxide are what they call spike proteins.
So I don't know if you've heard about that.
But this is and also aluminum.
So what we're talking about is the contents or you know ingredients of the vaccines have been analyzed more and more lately and more and more information has come out to doctors and in fact I have doctors that could contact you to tell you what they found because I don't know all the ingredients but I know one of the major ones is nanographene oxide and that's across the board
Even with all the vaccines.
It's also, like I said, been proven to be in the chemtrails, in our water, in our food, in our clothing.
We're being doused with it, if you will, on a daily basis.
They've done tests on nanographene oxide and they found that It causes respiratory issues, so you have to understand how valuable this could be.
I don't necessarily want to get you in trouble because I didn't think about this ahead of time, but The reality is that everyone out there, a lot of people have been what we call jabbed, and they have had health issues as a result.
In fact, some have died.
A good portion.
Way beyond the percentage that should have died.
So, this is not a superficial matter.
This is actually crucial.
To figuring out what it is in their concoction that is causing, you know, the clotting, causes clotting.
It causes respiratory issues.
And I'm not a doctor.
I can't tell you all the other things, but they've also found these.
It's an AI.
Okay.
There's an I don't know whether you've looked into artificial intelligence and Any of that, but for what it's worth just so you know kind of what direction you should be going to some degree.
There is an artificial intelligence is said to have helped.
Now.
This is not that unusual.
You may know that scientists more and more lately have been using artificial intelligence to create.
Um, I call them concoctions, but you know, bio weapons and just simply, you know, bio solutions, maybe you might say.
Uh, so they, in other words too, because there's so many variables and so many different tests.
So if the AI can do all those variables and deal with all the tests and give you a result quicker than a human could in real time, obviously.
So, so they've been doing this more and more.
So.
This was formulated with a purpose in mind.
Now, I'm sure that you probably haven't gone down this road, but it actually is a transhuman agenda, in my view.
People can disagree with that, but in the end of the day, I've talked to a scientist called Dr. David Adair, and other scientists, a Black Project scientist from NASA, who says what happens is that the spike protein is attracted magnetically to the nanographene oxide, attaches itself to the nanographene oxide,
And basically can jump beyond the blood-brain barrier, go from thing to thing, person to person, and like that.
So it becomes mobile in a sense.
And your body also becomes a factory producing, once you introduce this to a body, they have found that the body becomes a production vehicle for spike proteins.
It does.
Even naturally, it does.
Alright, and so when you couple that with the incoming, not only through the jab, but through, again, the food, the water, and all of that, You know, they've analyzed chemtrails and Clifford Carnicom's organization is the best, most scientific body that has analyzed chemtrails and what's in them.
And they have a website.
I forget what it's called, but it probably has his last name in the title, Carnicom.
It's kind of a funny last name.
But they're down in Arizona.
At any rate, it would be really fascinating to see what this water would do to the graphene oxide and whether there would be some kind of relationship there that would be more positive for humans, wash it out, make it less sort of sticking, because what they've observed with the nanographene oxide is that it
It actually is a lower form of what appears to be artificial intelligence or have a consciousness of some kind.
One doctor, her name is Madea, and she actually, they tried to kill her in a plane recently, but her name is Dr. Carrie Madea.
She did an experiment.
She had left the
this solution this in the vax on a petri dish I guess in a microscope and she left it for a couple hours just walked out of the room and she came back and it had grown multiplied however you want to look at that and then at the same time it also it causes these little strands and so this I guess one or some of the strands actually kind of lifted up and looked tried to look at her
Well, when she came back and was looking in the microscope, she got very scared and, you know, destroyed everything because she didn't like that whole idea.
But since then, I can send you all kinds of links about this, but there's also an aluminum addition to this, where they're now finding these, I don't know if they're nanoaluminum creatures or what, but they've actually seen some kind of organism materialize or
be created out of this out of the aluminum and also out of these strands because the strands in the way graphene you'd have to do some research if don't you don't know already but you know nano graphene oxide is considered the strongest material on earth and what it does is eventually it creates like a lattice okay it grows almost creating what is called by some a snake skin like
Sure.
And according to Dr. David Adair, that snakeskin-like material actually can fill growth and take over the cells and basically replace with, in essence, I think he says, silicon.
Uh, the carbon in cells.
So anyway, it's a much more involved story than I'm telling.
I'm trying to give you the, this, you know, the bullet points here, but again, just offhand, because this, you know, and then I have another question after this, but do you have, what is there, do you have any thoughts right off the bat about how your water might react with the graphene?
I have no idea, and I will find out very quickly.
I know graphene is ubiquitous in the planet right now.
I mean, they make everything out of graphene.
Bicycle frames, golf clubs, cars now.
You know, they're trying to replace everything with it.
And for graphene oxide to be ubiquitous doesn't I'm not astonished by that, to be perfectly honest.
You've heard about the forever chemicals, the PFSAS and everything like that, PTAS, right?
The Teflon.
Oh.
And they call it the forever chemical.
I see.
And 99.9% of the world now has it in their bloodstream.
And there's no way to get it out of the body that we know of.
That would be the same with the nanographene oxide.
They say it stays in the body for, I don't know where they got this number, but a hundred years.
Yeah, no, graphene is another thing that your body probably cannot eliminate.
And it's the same with this.
There are some things that are said to help It washed through.
So this is another reason why they went to the jab.
So for 10 years or 15 years or maybe even 20 years, they have been putting it in everything that we can think, you can think of, you know, especially the chemtrails, okay?
So that means we're breathing it in, it gets into the groundwater, it gets into the food and we eat it and so on and so forth.
So they have been doing that, but apparently, This is based on scientists talking about this, that our body does have some good ability to wash out these impurities, okay, to a degree.
But it's not going to be... First of all, it's happening every day to your body, so it doesn't matter you eliminate it, it comes right back in, right?
So that's worth noting.
I can tell you that a certain spokesperson out there who's a military guy says what he does is to get rid of the graphene buildup is to go into a hot tub And I think, and you know, I'm trying to get this right, but I think it's something like he puts alfalfa or something in it.
And then what happens is the graphene is more attracted to the alfalfa than it is to the human body.
So it goes out and permeates this stuff, alfalfa.
And then you have to do a special rinse sort of sequence in order to get rid of any residual whatever, but he feels that that works very well.
Now, I don't know if it really works well, and I certainly know that it's being replaced daily, so that's worth noting.
Now, I have another question for you that I'm not sure if you'll find it related or not, but I went to Malta and there's a place on Gonzo, I think it's called, or Gozo, the island, one of the three Maltese islands.
And on that island, there is a, you know, the islands are surrounded by the sea, obviously.
And the sea actually comes in under the ground and in some places through caves.
Right.
So there is a place on that island where there's a well, and a woman there goes down into the well.
They drop down these plastic bottles.
Not a good idea, probably, but that's all they have.
These people don't have any money.
So they collect the water, and it's easy water, in essence.
It's amazing water.
I mean, it tastes amazing.
and supposedly has healing powers and people you know on the island use it and they they actually sell it they let you come bring your own bottle and they'll give you like a dollar's worth or something i did it and i drank the water so i was wondering
How is it that this easy water might have been created in this, you know, underground, under sort of water, this place where they're actually getting, it's fresh water, it's surrounded by seawater, but when it comes up they don't do anything to it to make it fresh.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
There might be some sort of natural rock filter there that it was flowed through.
Right.
It could be by osmotic pressure.
The difference in the pressure?
I mean, seawater and freshwater don't mix, and there's barriers in the ocean.
In fact, where the South Sea and the North Sea mix, there's a line you can see where they don't mix.
Here's the difference in salinity.
If there's something removing the salt out of this water and creating freshwater, then there's a natural barrier there somehow.
And it would allow the easy water to flow in and the contaminants to flow out.
I wouldn't know until I tested the water.
What bothers me with seawater and everything else, of course, there's so many nanoplastics in it.
You talk about nanographene.
There's nanoplastics everywhere now.
In fact, they thought maybe at the Arianna Trench That if they went down and caught a fish there, it might not have plastic in it.
They found it has plastic in it.
They found out that 99.9% of all living things have plastic in it, nanoplastics.
And so that's another problem that we have is how do you get these nanoplastics out?
And the problem with nanoplastics, you don't get them out unless you have something to dissolve them.
They, again, are like the nanographene.
They like to attach themselves to the body.
Especially your filter system is your liver.
And if your liver isn't functioning perfectly, it doesn't do any filtering.
And when it doesn't do filtering, of course, then everything recirculates through your body, which then accepts every, um, affects every cell in your body.
Uh, it makes them not function perfectly.
So, I will look into that water too.
I'd like to get some water that maybe I can test and see what's in the water.
Okay, it'd be a great thing to do.
I think it'd be fascinating.
I don't know if any scientists have actually gone to that island and tried to do experiments at that place.
But it's a very small island.
It has ancient sites on the island which are fascinating and so on.
I have led tours there.
Oh, really?
At any rate, okay, well thank you very much for being on the show.
I think we've gone for quite a while.
Is there anything that, you know, any topic that you wanted to touch on that we haven't had time to at this point?
What I'd like to do is, maybe in the future I have this friend and these friends with the Shroud of Turin.
Maybe we can come back and do just a show on the Shroud of Turin.
And talk about all the scientific wonders of this thing.
And then I also have Dr. John St.
Cyr, who was the cardiologist, who wrote up and instigated this study on the heart.
And he could talk about heart health issues and how to prevent them and just general information about the heart if people are interested in that too, which I think would make it fascinating.
You know, talk about the heart.
Did you know the heart is not strong enough to pump All of the blood through your system.
It would have to be like a 10 horsepower pump to make your blood flow.
And what they think really makes the water or the water, the blood circulate through your heart is the water and the capillary action and the easy water.
It's actually the easy water that circulates your blood.
It's not the heart.
The heart is just a little boost system.
It makes sense.
I would maybe go a step further and say that it's also the resonance of the body.
So because we're constantly resonating and I think of that in terms of, you know, what they say, Portal mechanics, if you will, it has to do with the spin.
So in meditation, it's all about the spin.
And when you want to raise your consciousness, it's all about the spin.
And that's what meditation does when you're raising, what you're doing is basically raising the spin rate.
And so there's got to be something to do with that having to do with how the body operates at all, right?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's the body operates on resonance, but you say you can adjust your total outlook by resonance.
You play a song and it resonates with you.
That's all resonates with me, you know, and you put in And you can tell when you walk into an evil place, because you say the resonance is off, and it is.
Right.
You can tell when you walk into a good place.
Now resonance, when it goes up, will be warmer.
And if you go to a place negative, that's a negative energy, would be cold, right?
That's 100% correct.
Because when you're in resonance with something, you're exchanging energy.
When you're not in Resonance, you're not.
And so when you're not exchanging energy, you get cold.
When you exchange energy, you get warm.
So yeah, I mean, people just don't understand how much Resonance plays.
I mean, it's everything in our lives.
And that's what was interesting about this Divinia Water is that it resonates.
You know, there's a Resonance there.
A lot of people will pick up our water and go, Wow, I can feel it.
It's resonating with me.
I said, well, you haven't even drank it.
They said, I can feel it.
We've had a lot of people say, I can feel it.
A lot of people have to drink it so they get a buzz immediately.
They said it resonated with them.
And it's really funny.
But no, resonance is everything, and you're correct.
For water to go up to the top of a tree, it would take almost 10,000 psi to push it up.
But there's no pump at the bottom of a tree pushing water up.
Because, you know, the capillaries, as it goes up to the very top of a tree, especially a 40 foot tree, is way up there.
And they're very small.
It would take 10,000 psi to push water all the way up there.
Yet water gets all the way up there.
How does that happen?
So it's the resonance between them.
The sunlight and the earth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's why trees grow in the sun, because they're resonating with the sun and they're getting that energy.
That's why when you go outside and you have cholesterol on your body, on your skin, and in your skin, and the sun hits it, it turns into vitamin D. Because of the resonance of the frequency of the sun on your skin, vibrating with that, and it converts into vitamin D.
You know, it's all about resonance on it.
Yeah, cool.
All right.
Well, it's been fascinating talking to you as always, Steve.
I'd love us to do this again.
And if you want to, you know, That would be terrific.
I look forward to that.
an interview more about the Turin with whatever diagrams or whatever you have.
And also, as you say, this individual who specializes in the heart, you could do that.
So, yeah, let's keep these things in mind and go forward in the future.
That would be terrific.
I look forward to that.
I love giving information out to people.
Well, you do it really well.
You explain things really well.
So I think people can appreciate that.
I'll put my caveat.
None of us are medical doctors.
These are not medical opinions.
These are our personal opinions.
Go see your physician to rely upon anything.
And I have a disclaimer that automatically is put on the end of the video, so when we stop the show, I play that every time.
So we do have a medical as well as a normal disclaimer.
Thank you again for being here and people that are interested can go to my website and you'll see a link for Divinia Water.
I also have, I give him an ad on my site and you're welcome to go and jump over to Divinia Water and find what you might like over there.
And they do have quite some interesting, I see you have a blog and you've got some discussions on various topics over there.
Yeah, Kirsten, my daughter, puts out a blog or two every, and she puts out a newsletter every week.
So, and it's on all sorts of health topics.
It's on forever chemicals.
I have a film, there's probably going to be one on nanographene oxide coming up pretty soon.
That would be great.
It's on everyone's mind right now, so that'd be really wonderful.
All right.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you very much.
And I'll let you go.
Take care.
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