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May 28, 2022 - Project Camelot

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DR. TAU BRAUN: BIOTERRISM AND COVID ISSUES

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we are live and it's great to be here we are live and it's great to be here today.
	I have Dr. Tao Braun with me and so I saw his interview with James Grunwig and thought he was a really great guest and so I wanted to bring him on here and I've got lots of questions for you today, Tao, but I'd like you to give us some background for those that don't know your work and your
	You've got an amazing list of credentials there, so why don't you take it away with that, because I have to explain to my audience.
	They might know my website was taken down yesterday, so it's been down for 24 hours.
	It's starting to come back.
	We weren't able to put a page or anything about this on the website.
	However, I did social media, so we may have some live listeners.
	I just want to say that in advance here to explain why we're kind of... I don't have your bio in front of me or any of that.
	Perfect.
	You know, I think something about this pandemic is around For a really refreshing thing that we needed in this time, which is realness.
	And I think that, you know, part of what I enjoyed about at the beginning of the pandemic before, you know, sort of the technology became overwhelming of constantly having to do things online and not nobody's meeting in person.
	I enjoyed the fact that when people were first forced to work from home, it starts showing people that they have these two personas, their work life, And professional life and then their home life and then people, you know, used to keep those things very separate.
	And I think that what was great about it, I remember back in the day there was this BBC interview where this toddler ran on and, you know, you had this dad shoving his child out the way because, you know, this important interview that it was on.
	And I remember that was before the pandemic and during the pandemic people got used to their dogs barking because they have dogs and then they got used to a baby crying if they have a baby.
	I have a nine-month-old baby and occasionally people hear a baby in the background and that's great.
	I have a wonderful son that I want people to know about and the same thing if someone's cat walks by and you're interested in cats, you know, I think what it allowed at least at first is sort of this Wonderful humanness that we needed, because part of it is that people were hiding behind their credentials.
	And certainly during this pandemic, the credentials that are being chosen and used by the chosen few that are allowed to put out their information, which is by far the most fictitious information that the world has ever seen, then they can use their credentials and whatever they want to drop.
	But if anybody else Their experience, their credentials, where they went to school, what they've been doing for their entire lives, how experienced they were at a particular topic, none of it matters to the powers that be.
	And so, my credentials on this phone call, I will explain a little bit about my background and how I've become knowledgeable on the subjects that relate to what we're going through.
	But the most important credential that I want people to know me for is I want people to be able to trust me.
	I want people to be able to say, why does this guy know this?
	How does he know it?
	What kind of questions can I ask that would be useful to me?
	And I think being open to that has allowed really quickly for me to get the help to people that want it, which is the primary focus of all of my work.
	And so, really quickly, my background is that I have My background is as a clinical psychologist who moved to the States and decided that post 9-11 something was really missing in terms of I wanted to be able to do more about the scale of violence that was starting to present itself.
	I mean, in our time, you know, to be woken up with planes flying into buildings, It became very difficult for me with my sort of incubated in South Africa family in law enforcement and counterterrorism, became a psychologist, absolutely loved the deeper sense of clinical psychology, worked in a maximum security prison for a year.
	I really felt that after that, every year that I was spending doing the beautiful work of wellness and sort of peak performance and going to corporations to help them to sell more widgets, As much as that is amazing work and it was satisfying, I always felt that my purpose was to do something a little different in terms of my ability to be able to see the darkness in the world, to not come from a place of denial.
	My brain is built in a really strange way of severe ADD and it allows me to work out very complex systems very easily.
	I connect the dots Almost instantaneously in terms of data.
	I'm not looking for linear data cause and effect that's straight line and easy.
	Sort of the things that scientists do in labs whenever they measure something, they're able to control the entire environment and then they drill down on this one little thing that they're looking at and nothing actually works like that in the world.
	We're dynamic.
	Right.
	And human beings are part of a massive dynamic living system.
	And so data starts falling apart with linearity.
	And so my brain is actually equipped really nicely to be able to look at data sets and complicated issues in real time and understand the dots that are connected and what's driving that system.
	My master's thesis in clinical psychology actually looked at chaos theory and non-linear mathematics as a model to explain things like psychopathology.
	It's a really good background for me to understand sort of the complexity of a pandemic and then I went off and I did a doctorate in organizational leadership with a specialty of organizational leadership focusing on preventing violence and specifically for the doctorate it is workplace violence
	And it threw me into a career that's a very, very niche career of threat assessments and threat management, which is the science of trying to stop violence before it happens.
	And then I took it even more as a specialty, and there's even fewer of us that do this work, where it's threat assessment and threat management as it only relates to mass killers.
	So the kind of horrible shooting that we all just saw again that took place in Texas, that has been the teaching of the prevention and the response to those kind of incidents across the world.
	That's my specialty.
	And so it fits into a big Massive term, which would fit into counterterrorism.
	And then lastly, the piece that sort of brings me into a lot of the chemical work that I've done during this pandemic is that counterterrorism has to involve bioterrorism.
	You're not fixated on one particular weapon.
	We cannot allow ourselves In our field, to pretend that we know what a perpetrator or a predator is going to use.
	It's not always a gun.
	In Japan, the subway attack was with sarin.
	A mass attack was with a chemical substance.
	So in my domain, I can never get fixated either on weapon, and even more than that, I can't fixate on last year's weapon.
	I have to understand technology.
	And that's what brings us into where we are with this bioweapon-based pandemic.
	Okay.
	No, very great summary and obviously you have a wonderful background.
	I'm very eclectic.
	What I would say, though, is you're talking about sort of a mass psychology that's part of your work, right?
	Sure.
	But there's also, and you've worked on leadership, and I wonder, you know, because what we're dealing with are pathological individuals that are part of what we call kind of a bucket term, the Illuminati,
	uh... what some would call the committee of three hundred others would say uh... i'm having this whole discussion with somebody else at this time about there's a group in switzerland that have complete control over he says this is a financial guy what's called the right to issue so i don't know if you've drilled down in that area but a lot of the people at obviously the world economic forum are involved with that as well
	And then there's these, so a lot of our, in my opinion, a lot of the terrorism we're witnessing is state terrorism.
	And we're dealing with MKUltra sleepers that are actually positioned to come awake at a certain point, get triggered, and then start doing crazy stuff.
	And they are simply patsies along the lines of, you know, Any Patsy you can bring to mind, really, there's so many.
	So, this is my view.
	Now, I also want to drill down into the actual bioweapon, which is COVID, because I have talked to doctors, a lot of doctors out there, wonderful doctors coming forward with amazing testimony.
	From the last two years, really, and bringing forward the truth about COVID, which is obviously has been a huge effort to hide and not make available to two people.
	So.
	In a sense, they are all bioterrorists, okay, the people that built that bioweapon and dispersed it and continue to disperse.
	Well, now they have a new rendition called this monkey, I call it monkey business, but just, you know, based on actually Robert Young, Dr. Robert Young, I don't know if you know who he is, but he's an excellent doctor that I've interviewed several times on this subject.
	So, just to give you the direction I'm kind of coming from, and so that you can speak to that, because my audience sees things in terms of, you know, that humans have basically become prey, okay, and that we do have a predator.
	And it may appear to be more than one predator on the surface, but a lot of times when you look deeper, you basically see they're all connected.
	I see you study systems, right?
	So it's systemic.
	So it's not only a group of predators and several groups maybe but they're also they built all the this stuff into the system so you know we enter this scene in a sense at a disadvantage as humans so From here, what I would like to do is, I guess a lot of people have this latest Texas situation on their mind.
	I don't know if you, you know, have gone and drilled down into it.
	It's not necessary that we do so.
	There's also, you know, George Floyd and there's various, you know, kind of bell ringer incidents that have happened even recently that you could Call on.
	So if you want to start there, maybe with how you would analyze it, and if you don't see the MKUltra aspect, that would be hard to believe, but let's, you know, tell me where you would go with it.
	Well, I think what's interesting for me is that I, as much as that I pride myself on really understanding complexity, to understand complexity, you look at a system and you find the really simple points.
	You know, it's sort of like complex systems look complex, but ultimately you The complexity is that you have to pull back and you have to be able to see the big picture and then you have to see how the big picture is being formed by much smaller, in mathematics they literally just call the tractors.
	So, if you have a look at something like the Committee of 300, cabals, the word Illuminati, I think that part of that is also very purposeful, as a purposeful distraction from those that are the small groups that have always had power.
	And in every single, you know, if you look at this from sort of an anthropologist viewpoint, what you're going to have is, I want to go even further back, I want to look at this because it very much relates to the pandemic in terms of how this bioweapon is built genetically as a genetic heat-seeking tool.
	I mean, I think that that's something that I keep talking about that I don't hear a lot of people talking about is You know, who's actually the prey in terms of death toll and in terms of who's susceptible to it?
	Because the great lie amongst many, one of the greatest lies of the pandemic is this idea that people as a big term, you know, across the world, nations and populace and populations We're susceptible to this.
	At any given time at the start of this, at most about one and a half percent to two percent of the world, we're ever going to have the capacity genetically to even move on to anything that was going to be severe, whether it was the And we can get into some of the specifics about the difference between the virus on its own with the spike protein and the spike protein on its own.
	We can get into that.
	I also want to discuss sort of like how some of the distraction is now like sort of we won't understand this when all of a sudden people want to throw out the concept of viruses completely and look at things like terrain theory.
	And I think that there's an easy way where all of this merges into one and becomes very Very simple to understand.
	So, I'm going to go take us back a little bit in history and I'm going to look at human evolution.
	I'm going to look at the three main species of humans on the planet.
	The quote-unquote modern-day human was a subset of people that, you know, once upon a time the world was one landmass and it broke up.
	And when it broke up, it led to the way that, you know, if you look at the world map and you look at the pieces of the world map, you know, even a child's mind, you can merge them to the point where they become a landmass again, right?
	So, when human beings, like all other animals that got split up from each other, you had an African continent-based people, and then you had Neanderthal-based people, and you had the Denisovans.
	And in simple terms about what that is, is that what we now refer to modern human is really a mixture between all three of those species in some degree or another.
	It is mostly the The African continent of people moving upwards from all the way from Southern Africa upwards and then dispersing over the world over time.
	And the differences were that before that, the people became very nomadic.
	The three species that were split up from each other evolved similarly, but had different characteristics of what helped them to survive.
	So what helped Neanderthals to survive as a couple of tools was they were nomadic, but their terrain that they covered was actually very small.
	They were also a very small tribe in terms of numbers.
	They sort of, because of the way that they, the fertile lands that they were in, And because of their lack of diversity genetically, that they weren't moving around and splitting off, their population didn't grow substantially.
	That's one difference.
	The other difference is they created, because they landed up being in very fertile lands around Western Europe, you know, if anybody has Into places like Switzerland, Italy, places in France, places in Germany.
	I mean, when I first saw Switzerland, I was like, God has a canvas, and if God needed a place to retire, you know, these kind of places, are just so incredibly rich and beautiful and they were very easy for the Neanderthals to survive in because the Neanderthals were very energy efficient and they hunted woolly mammoths.
	They didn't care about small prey, which becomes relevant to our conversation, and they just brought down these big woolly mammoths that that supplied the entire cave system with a lot of meat, clothing, bones, tools, and so they were very efficient, which left them with a lot of recreational time to create art, make love, make music.
	It's sort of like the original hippie culture.
	And they were really, really, really community-based.
	Very, very loving.
	They were the first species to take care of their elderly.
	They invented medicine.
	They would heal their sick.
	And even when they were nomadic, they found ways of moving their elderly with them.
	And I want us to remember that point because that also becomes extremely relevant to what you said in terms of human beings now being prey.
	The second group that is hardly ever covered are the Denisovans, which are Russian, Ukrainian, and the countries that end in Stan.
	A lot of Asian countries have very high sort of the Mongol genes features a Genghis Khan, you know, lineage.
	And it's hardly, there's much less known academically about the Denisovans.
	The other group we know tons about because that group is now called modern day human.
	And modern day human, as it progresses, the apex predator of a modern day human functions very much like many other animal species.
	And the apex predator becomes the predator through becoming immensely capable of weaponry, defense systems, and psychopathy, being psychopaths. - Yes.
	And we, as modern-day humans, we are part of the systemic cycle that rewards that.
	There is a higher percentage in the world of psychopaths on Wall Street than anywhere in the world.
	That's an academic fact.
	You can go to a prison and you're going to find a lower rate of psychopaths because generally the people that are still on Wall Street haven't been caught yet.
	Okay, so in terms of rewarding a form of living where the more psychopathic you are in 2022, the better you do.
	And this modern day human ultimately has always had competition with the Neanderthals.
	The earliest mass killings, when we said, you know, there are parts to the shooting, for example, at Texas that are relevant, I don't know that people know that mass killings like Texas go back to Neanderthal times, where the earliest mass killings that I can find on the planet are groups, bandits of modern day humans coming and killing Neanderthals in their caves or in mass burials.
	They are generally the same way as the people that are currently processing those dead children in Texas.
	You can go back 150-200,000 years and you're going to find very similar forms of killing, of cornering a group of people and clubbing them to death.
	or putting them in a deep hole or driving them off a cliff and so when somebody you know tells me that mass killing is up or that it's new I said well you obviously you know you haven't studied this enough to know how long this form is going has been going on and there is an element to it that is still very common in that the predators that go off and do a shooting like we just saw there is a form there's two main um
	Psychological drivers that I've been able to find, one of which is the obvious, which is the person who should on paper have very high levels of capability, but they're an absolute loser and they have struggled unsuccessfully their entire lives to be anything.
	And there's sort of this mathematical equation that lives in my head that if You can subtract somebody's potential.
	You take somebody's potential and then you subtract what they actually achieved.
	The difference and the stress that it creates, that anxiety-driven stress in somebody who's a psychopath will be the predictor of whether they want to go out with the legacy of masculine.
	They are very rarely obsessed with injury.
	They want dead people.
	I call them soul collectors.
	And mostly, a very basic part of this that Freud would love, is they generally tend to have fathers that are more successful than they have been trying to be.
	There are exceptions to that, but they are constantly trying to get dad's attention, even if dad is dead.
	Bill Gates, by the way, fits beautifully into this category, and in my opinion, he is a living mass killer.
	I believe that he will suicide like most mass killers.
	I believe I see the signs of domestic violence, as he had written all over Melinda Gates in those interviews.
	She has been his enabler, and if he's going to kill anybody or get somebody to suicide like Eberborn and Hitler, Adolf Hitler.
	It will be a Bill Gates, Melinda situation where Melinda will either get taken out like mass killers, that they kill their primary enabler, or they get them to suicide with them in some form of pact.
	I know a lot of people cannot wait for that day to come soon enough, And for good reason.
	I think what's interesting for me, and then we can get back onto much more specific pandemic-related topics, is that if we have a look at this group then that we want to call Illuminati, if we want to call it a cabal, if we want to call it a committee of 300,
	What you're really looking at is in modern-day society, in that modern-day human, the psychopathy and the manipulation allowed them to come up with a narrative, unprovable narrative, the same as the pandemic, that allowed the form of royalty, like the idea that a human being could declare themselves the lineage of coming directly from God, right?
	And then, I am your king.
	Right?
	I mean, an apex predator that has the manipulative strength, manipulative powers of manipulation, as well as either physical prowess, but it doesn't have to be, it can be that person has the ability to create the sense of fear that gives them power, and then they just declare themselves ruler over everybody.
	And ultimately, if anybody believes in some form of Illuminati or cabal, you will always trace it back to royal families.
	You will absolutely trace this pandemic back to the British royal family.
	It should be starting to be very obvious that if you want to look at them as military, you know, the sites of the command posts of military operation, the different wings that are controlling this.
	They're all Commonwealth countries.
	Canada.
	Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, right?
	I mean, it is the viruses, the vaccines, the vaccine development, the safe haven.
	I mean, New Zealand is practically now Silicon Valley owns and it became the largest, you know, prepper community If anybody ever thought that there were preppers out there as tinfoil wearing people and that they have bunkers, if anybody imagines that to be some crazy person somewhere in a rural area, they haven't actually looked at the data.
	The people that own the prepping industry are very, very wealthy elitists who currently are using New Zealand as the world's most secure bunker.
	They disarmed it after the mosque attack.
	I have a different opinion based on these incidents.
	I can tell people and they can continue on believing what they want in terms of false flags and operations and CIA involvement.
	I can tell you that these murders take place.
	I can tell you they're dead kids.
	I can tell you that I know the people that have to go work those crime scenes.
	I can tell you that I know parents personally.
	But what I can tell you is that every single time there is some way of milking a tragedy, no matter what it is, they will manipulate the emotions around a tragedy to drive an agenda.
	They don't even have to cause the tragedy.
	They just find something big enough, they own that space, and then they will absolutely use it and keep using it until they get it right.
	They may have done it now with Texas, that we may see the gun grab that everybody knows is coming.
	It's getting closer by the day, and the pandemic itself increased active, well, increased active attacker, active shooter type incidents.
	And so for everyone, they will get closer to disarming this country.
	And so they don't have to make them.
	There are enough people out there.
	I mean, certainly there are enough incidents happening on their own based on human pathology, where you don't even have to wake up sleepers or think, why did this person even afford this?
	Or how did they know how to shoot this gun?
	I have studied these criminals and these predators enough to know how they did it, how easy it is for the average person to do it.
	And the last thing I want to say about that is, We are living in a technology-based world where learning is now accelerated.
	It took me about a weekend to understand coronaviruses.
	I didn't have to go to school to study virology.
	We have access to information and the speed of the internet has allowed us to learn quickly and simulators Or at the highest level of all time.
	So if anybody wants to become a mass killer and they want to use a certain weapon like an AR-15, the time that they would have to spend playing a video game is substantially lower than any time in history to become proficient.
	The military was involved in the development of hyper-realistic video games for training purposes, and then we gave it to civilians.
	But it is a successful and the easiest way To get somebody to have muscle memory and to create psychopathy in a psychopath already, and then to rehearse killings over and over and over, it is really, really simple to explain how people can be proficient.
	That was a really long answer.
	I'm still waiting to meet.
	I'm still happy for anybody to always interrupt at any stage.
	This is the way that my brain works.
	But I hope that that's a really solid foundation of things that we can now get specific about.
	Okay.
	Well, it's an interesting angle, I think, that you have.
	And I think Yes, it can direct some good, maybe, information coming forward in that way.
	You know, I'm not sure where to start with what you laid out.
	Can I make one comparison that might help us, you know, sort of bring down the, you know, help people to understand what I'm talking about, about somebody like Bill Gates.
	I believe, and I'm quite happy to say that this is an opinion, I'm also happy for him to sue me so that I can go to a court of law and prove it.
	I mean, I think that would be a wonderful opportunity.
	And I have a team of experts that could join me with court testimony.
	But I think somebody like Bill Gates, the easiest comparison for somebody to do, and if they're not familiar with the case, Netflix has a really good documentary on Jimmy Savile, the DJ, who basically built a career So that he could be a pedophile, right?
	I mean, so when I look at Bill Gates, he has built a career, whether it is Microsoft or anything that he's done in his entire life, to be able to enable him to kill people.
	And so the more successful he is financially, or the more he is able to weave, to get other people into his spider web with him, and give them parts to play in his plot, His ultimate aim is he wants to get satisfaction out of a number.
	But I've got news for Bill Gates in terms of my knowledge on this subject.
	He's never going to get it, which is why they land up suiciding.
	There is no number for him to win.
	Daddy's long dead.
	Daddy was never going to give him attention.
	Part of the reason he wants death toll is his dad was obsessed with population control and Planned Parenthood.
	You know, it was this exciting way in a young mind, maybe even just one conversation it took, where he was able to say something and it was at that moment that he saw something different in the way that his dad looked at him.
	And that's how obsessions start.
	And that's how obsessions start with a certain profile of human beings that get locked into a goal.
	And then you have a look at, let's say, the royal family.
	They will use people like Bill Gates.
	To fulfill their agendas.
	They are merely, they're just merely, you know, we have a look at a chessboard.
	They think of Bill Gates as like the bishop or a knight.
	He's certainly not a pawn.
	He's not a serf on the board that can just be disposed of.
	But they find people that will give them, will fulfill their purpose.
	Jimmy Savile is a nice example where the royal family absolutely allowed him to do what he wanted under their noses with their full knowledge because he was serving other purposes for them.
	And so that's another aspect.
	I mean, let me say this much.
	I mean, that sort of indicates that you are thinking they did not have their own agenda along these lines because That goes contrary to the information I have about them.
	Oh no, I think it's absolutely their agenda.
	They were pedophiles already.
	They come from a culture of pedophiles and that goes back, you know, to Eastern Europe and, you know, Dracula and, you know, drinking blood and this whole, you know, adrenochrome syndrome.
	And so that's already built into their culture and their way of even looking at humans.
	One thing that you're not kind of touching on, I don't think, and maybe I'm missing it, is this idea that these individuals going back in time, you know, to Sumeria, you know, and the gods, and you know, the so-called Nephilim, and the fact that they were the chosen ones, they were the chosen ones of
	You know, as Zachariah Sitchin would say, the Anunnaki, you could say other ones if you like, in a sense it doesn't even matter, but the men and, you know, mainly it was men and women who came from the stars and who then, you know, put their genome into our, their genes into our genome.
	And that's when that sort of, as far as I can tell, the real split began between the rulers and the ruled.
	And the rulers had their genetics, had more of their genetics, which happens to be in essence What we call the reptilian gene.
	So what we're talking about is, and this was true, maybe you know about this, the Bush family.
	The Bush family said that their actual genetics is always hidden from everyone.
	Apparently it has so much reptilian DNA that they didn't want it out there.
	So When I look at, when I analyze the situation, I'm looking at that.
	I'm looking at who wrote the Bible, why they write it a certain way, the paternalistic, the changes that were made in maybe the original, you know, manuscripts versus what they ended up with, and how that served their purpose to then rule over humans.
	And the most important part of that being that humans, you know, well, this gets into a whole thing, but I don't know if you, you know, study archaeology, ancient archaeology, whether you've had much exposure in that way.
	I do not.
	Okay, well, in, you know, in, at, in, at Egypt, in Egypt, in Iraq, in these various places, in South America, you see a crown, you often see reptilians, right, and you see them half-human, half-reptoid, and you see, these are all over the temples, everywhere, and in fact,
	You may even know this piece of information, which is that during the Iraq and especially the Syrian war, they actually, State Department or whoever, you know, the military, paid in so-called insurgent groups to go in and destroy the temples and the statuary in the area of, for example, Syria.
	And the reason they're doing that, and it's probably still going on, is they don't want to show that reptilians used to dominate humans on Earth.
	It actually goes back to that.
	So there's a lot of evidence about our history that is not revealed.
	A lot of it that's under the Vatican.
	In fact, the Vatican itself, and you must have seen the pictures, if you actually look at the Vatican and look at the architecture, what you're looking at is a snake.
	Sure.
	I don't think you can avoid that association, and that also gets into the ancient Sumeria and what we're talking about, the Khazarians.
	So I was interested in how you were classifying the Khazarian group, because they were, if you go back, I've been to a place called Gobekli Tepe and done a documentary there, and if you delve into that, what you find is blood sacrifice
	is the name of the game, and actually sacrifice of little children specifically, that when they dug into the ruins, they don't want the people to know this, but I discovered it because I'm an investigative reporter, they found babies.
	They found lots and lots of that.
	So that's been hidden.
	That is the history, okay?
	Yeah, and I'll say to you that I'm not somebody that, because a lot of this, you know, you can articulate this to the point where both of us can make a very convincing case.
	But what I would say is that I don't think that the way that I'm seeing it is that different, except That what I would say that I try to do over a lifetime and it's mostly just because I tend to be somebody that's very practical.
	I cannot avoid just sort of a utilitarian like part like as much as I can appreciate you know aesthetics of something and especially if it's natural like I mentioned natural terrain or a beautiful waterfall.
	I'm not that impressed when it comes to man you know human made aesthetics unless I go Wow, the simplicity of this tool is impressive to the point where it's beautiful.
	Like, I am somebody that I, you know, just in terms of my interest, I really want to get to the point where I understand something on one of the mechanisms being used.
	So, I want to highlight a couple of things that make our conversation very similar, but sort of a different maybe starting point.
	I think that if you look at cultures and the way that they will use what Jung would have called archetypes and symbols, I think it gets to the point pretty easy as a code to translate.
	If the snake is used for a reptilian, psychopathic way, cold-blooded, callous, sort of very, very developed in skill.
	The spitting cobra is an apex predator.
	I mean, and the venoms that are involved are simply top-notch.
	They've reached a range.
	Evolution has driven them into their own natural gain of function, and now human beings are purposefully going after our own gain of function, right?
	Whether it's trying to preserve life, whether it's envenomating the planet, whatever it is, these are all based on the principle of gain of function, and natural gain of function will always lead human beings to try and mimic
	What they see in nature, finally to this point, where we were able to take the most advanced biological natural weaponry, which are venoms, and we were able to finally use them, like they've been trying for hundreds of years, we finally were able to use them as a bioweapon simply because we could dictate who it attacked.
	And who it would leave alone, which has always been the problem with biological and chemical weapons as a form of warfare.
	If you spray nerve gas, it's going to take out everybody on the battlefield.
	So how do you make something that would only take out your enemy?
	And they finally have done it with this pandemic.
	And it's part of why Putin invaded Ukraine, because what they were about to unleash and what they were working on is drilling down so specifically into the Denisovian genetic side that they want to be able to leave places in Europe alone, but take out those with the Denisovian lineage and those with those biolabs we're working on, and that's what they were sampling.
	And so I don't think we're saying something different except the symbols are different for me.
	It is, and I'll leave room to be wrong, I always do, it's too far-fetched or doesn't fit a sort of a perspective that I'm coming from in terms of genomic sequences inserted by, you know, let's say reptilian people from, you know, other universes.
	Certainly, the knowledge of the world and the fact that we know so little about our galaxies, I leave room for it.
	I will never discount it.
	It would be absolutely foolish and ridiculous for me to say, oh, that's nonsense.
	It may turn out to be 100% fact and it would be interesting if it did.
	But I think that for me, it's more reasonable to look at even the genomic sequence that we know now.
	And yes, psychopaths, for example, there is a genomic sequence of psychopaths.
	And that would mean, for example, that somebody born, you've got the two hemispheres of the brain, and it's joined together by a piece of fat that conducts electricity called the corpus callosum.
	And in psychopaths, it's ridiculously thin.
	And so that the way that they're able to even see the world would be much more quote-unquote reptilian.
	My issue also with some of the, why I probably push back on some of the choice of words, and I had this wonderful conversation with somebody recently about this, is that I think that it is another form of the manipulation that they've used.
	Because an interesting part about creatures that use venom is they're not purposefully cruel.
	A cat, for example, will play with a mouse over and over and actually enjoy the torture as a form of learning and play.
	They tend to get bored very easily.
	And so you could look at the physiology of a domestic cat.
	As a form of torture to take an animal and domesticate it and tame out its wildness.
	And then the wildness would come out the same way as somebody that does cutting or hair pulling, is that a cat is driven to the point that they will land up torturing An animal before they eat it, in some way, to derive pleasure.
	So what we've done, what the quote-unquote, whatever you want to call it, the controllers of the planet, they will always use symbols and perverse ways to make themselves special.
	So if there is a rumor out there by the Bush family that they have this hidden genomics, it's a wonderful PR spin that works both ways.
	It makes people go, well, they're rotten to the core, they're evil, they're hiding their genes because they're reptiles.
	And at the same time, if you want That kind of persona, and if you want people to see you in that way, and if you want those kind of partners, you put out some nonsense that you've got a genetic sequence that's different from other human beings, because you're not human.
	And then also, that's the same way as we're allowing these psychopaths amongst us to get away with all kinds of nonsense, because we're not holding them to regular standards.
	These CEOs of all of these companies that are involved in mass murder, the get out of jail card that our current leadership around the world has given them has put them into a non-human category regardless of their genomic sequence.
	If it turns out that they've got genes from another planet, great!
	But if they don't, what they've done through wonderful marketing techniques is they've separated themselves out from regular human beings and they've made themselves untouchable.
	And it's part of the sort of nouveau riche way where people gain success mostly from the levels of psychopathy.
	To try and join that higher notch of classism and absolutely link to the Vatican, without a doubt.
	I will say that the final piece I want to say about your reaction to what I was saying is that I agree and that many times what I find with this group of mass killers, this group of population controllers, They engage in that cat-like behavior of torching the animal and they absolutely troll us.
	So, for example, the coin in 2020, released by the U.S.
	Treasury, is a bat.
	Right.
	In 2021, it's Tuskegee.
	It's what?
	It says it's a coin that's supposed to honor the Tuskegee Airmen, but really what it's a reference to is the CDC's experiment of syphilis called the Tuskegee Clinical Trials.
	And so they purposefully, because BlackRock is so involved in this and the U.S.
	Treasury, these people think it's funny to troll us.
	The same, I'll give you one more example that ties up beautifully what you said about the royal family and pedophilia, is that in Prince Andrew's, what looked like it was going to be an attempt to separate himself out from what looked like it was going to be an attempt to separate himself out from Jeffrey
	The most interesting part for me of the interview is that when he says, one, he's got a medical condition that prevents him from sweating.
	That's called psychopathy.
	The medical condition that means that a psychopath can even get away with a lie detector is because they have such a low stimulus response that they don't startle to loud noises, they don't sweat like other people, they have bradycardia, meaning their resting heart rate is almost dead, and so that medical condition that he's describing is the condition of a psychopath, or what you would put into terms, a reptilian person.
	Right, so we're saying the same thing.
	I'm just using different language that I can cope with in my mind.
	Okay, no worries, no worries.
	I mean, I'm not, you know, it doesn't matter what kind of language we use, and I certainly understand where you're coming from.
	Can I just give you one piece that I was going with?
	Sorry to interrupt you, but I think this is very juicy for your audience, in terms of the fact that the other thing that he does in that interview, which is absolutely trolling, just to have a laugh with those that are in on the secret with him, Um, is that when when he said that he couldn't remember being with the victim, it's because he was with his daughters.
	And where was he?
	He went out with him for pizza.
	Right?
	So he knows that the reference is Pizzagate.
	He knows that the reference that he's talking about is that he's actually, to his friends, admitting guilt, and he's playing with it, and he's trolling the crowd for his own satisfaction and for those that he'll laugh with afterwards, because he remembered where he was 20 years ago with his daughters, and they were going out for pizza.
	So what I think is also useful for people that are hearing me is that this is also the way I catch mass killers.
	I listen out for the cues that is not substantial evidence in any court of law, but it allows me to know which rabbit holes to go down.
	It verifies things that I'm already thinking, and it verifies who's communicating with who.
	Just like Henry Clinton's emails would do, right?
	So, in a similar way, our understanding of this, I just want to make sure, our understanding of this is very similar.
	Yes.
	Okay, well I do the same thing as an interviewer and I have a lot of fun with that because to me it's kind of like a murder mystery, you know, and so language, choice of language is always very important and very revealing psychologically, etc.
	You know, and of course it goes down, I'm sure you're an expert at body language and all of that, right?
	Neuro-linguistics, call it what you will, but also the idea of predictive programming.
	And then, yes, you're calling it trolling, but this idea of playing, and again, it is cat-like in that sense, that playing with your prey and making fun at the same time, like in those terms, Blatantly obvious, if you read the symbols and listen to them.
	And it's going on constantly.
	I mean, it is a dialogue and they're talking to each other, actually more than they're talking to the populace, okay?
	Because they really don't care who's listening in that level.
	I have been studying this group for a ridiculous amount of time in my life, and their works, and their writings, and whatever it is.
	So I get that.
	But what I wanted to do here, and I think this is fascinating, and I'm sure I could talk to you for hours about all these different things, because you've got a really interesting approach to things that is much more hands-on than mine, right?
	I'm not out there trying to catch bad guys, and being out there puts you in, you know, sort of a life-death situation, maybe even at times, and you are forced to defend yourself, and it's very, I don't know, you know, physical.
	It, you know, it's a physical relationship with this information, not, you know, not just intellectual, right?
	Yeah, and in the sense that depending on, you know, I'm certainly not out there in the same way as a tactical officer.
	I'm involved in that training, but my physicality of it, especially with modern-day weaponry, which is now synthetic peptides, yes, I'm hands-on.
	Like, I built a compound that's an antidote.
	to their bioweapon.
	I mean, so yes, it's hands-on in the extent that for me to counter it, the same way as an unfortunate piece to the shooting that's got everyone scratching their head, is that if you build classrooms in a way that assumes that the active, I'll just call it an active shooter because most people are more familiar with that term, although it's inaccurate because there's a whole range of weapons that someone can use, But let's call it an active shooter rather than active attacker.
	When we've rebuilt schools and schools have had budget and security companies have come and said they need to redo their security, one of the things that they've all done is assumed that the active shooter will be on the outside of the door.
	So reinforced steel doors with locks that can't be shot out or cinder blocks around the door need specialized equipment.
	And that is what those teams were waiting for.
	Uh and believed that they were dealing with a barricaded subject and they were treating it as as as a um that the that the that there was no more risk they didn't actually get information that there were still kids that were alive in that room so they thought they just had the guy cornered And that at any time they could come and either open the door with a key, which would be the right approach if there was no more threat to life, which they didn't get that information on time.
	But more importantly, just like they knew that they needed a specialized tool to get in, to be able to blow out the lock.
	To be able to push through a wall on the outside, getting plans to the room.
	Whatever they were going to do is similar to the two years of work that I've done understanding the spike protein.
	I understand the spike protein.
	Possibly, this might sound really obnoxious to the many virologists and epidemiologists and biologists out there who have said, oh, I'm Yale, you know, graduated, I'm from this, I'm MIT.
	They absolutely know nothing about this.
	Zero.
	They are literally so lazy and so unethical and so tied into their grants that they believe is their bread and butter that they have done nothing to understand what the genomic sequence of the spike protein brings, what these peptides are, and to the point that I'll say that I can be absolutely confident that I know more than them, I drill down so hard.
	I don't even know why I'm using the word drill down today so much.
	It's interesting.
	But I found myself getting to the point of really wanting to, just like any other weapon, find the vulnerability of the spike protein.
	And for me, and there's other vulnerabilities, the one that I chose The spike protein, the bulk of it, is extremely positively charged and there is a tiny, tiny spot of a negatively charged area driven by the fact that it's what's known as a cysteine enzyme.
	I hired a team of chemical engineers to work out how we're going to exploit that tiny spot on this weapon to switch it off.
	Okay, now let me address a couple questions in this regard.
	And, you know, I hate to skip over certain things because you said some interesting things about the school room and the locked doors and all that, which is another thing, but for me that scene involves It's an operation, and that we have a tremendous amount of, not so much the general populace, but people that have studied this know that, again, that MKUltra is heavily involved, okay?
	That mind control, that whether it be through scalar weapons or, you know,
	anything they're sending through uh you know electronically or whatever means they're using a satellite so and so that that individual or those individuals whoever you know are sort of the the people that are on the ground perpetrating certain crimes especially because the end result is to stop americans for have from having guns so this is these these um
	These individuals are chosen and developed over a long period of time, very long, and sometimes they are abducted at, you know, as a child, and of course, you know, the aspects of torturing their own children, that also runs in the situation, so and so.
	What I want to do, though, is talk more about this COVID thing, because I have certain whistleblower testimony that led me down a certain road, and I'd love to run it by you to see how you react to it, what you actually think, because I have my own sort of theories along these lines, and one thing that I've found very frustrating about dealing with doctors Is when I ask them certain questions, they go blank.
	And I don't understand that, because it seems to me that if you're a doctor, your mind should be encompassing more than, you know, when something links to something links to something.
	What's the through line?
	Where is it going?
	You know, which is where I go, which has to do with the transhuman agenda.
	And the end result that the people who are creating this have in mind.
	So they didn't, they don't just create something that they think is going to stop with a death.
	It's not like that.
	That's one thing that a lot of people sell short, whoever you want to call them, whether you want to call them, you know, sort of the ruling class or you want to call them, you know, Illuminati or whatever you want to call them, I don't care.
	You want to call them the rich?
	I don't care.
	They have an agenda, and they believe in their agenda.
	And they actually, in some part of their mind, as far as I know, they think they're heroes in their own world.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Because they have an ulterior, altruistic idea in mind.
	It has nothing to do with greed, in my opinion.
	The lower levels may have to do with greed.
	The ones that are higher up, they want to build a humanity 3.0.
	That's what I call it.
	You know, whether it's transhuman or it's something else, they don't want What is the common human out there anymore?
	And they want to change the world, and they have a goal, which involves colonizing other planets.
	Whether you believe it's possible or not is immaterial.
	They do.
	Sure.
	And they're working towards it, and that's why someone like Bill Gates will get recruited and so on and so forth.
	So beyond their, you know, ego, which is huge, and all arrogance and all of that, which gets mixed in, but They have an agenda.
	They have a plan.
	Okay, let's call it a plan.
	So, there's that.
	Their other thing is spike proteins, I was told by a NASA scientist on a secret level, attach themselves to nanographene oxide and then it jumps.
	Now, I don't know how much you've studied in your travels, Nano, but Nano is a very key part of this package, okay?
	This weapon, as you call it, okay?
	The bioweapon.
	And that's another problem that I've had.
	Now, Dr. Carrie Madej, you may know her name.
	She's very familiar with the things I'm talking about now, and she has followed that road.
	And she's even had a Petri dish, you may know the story, where the nanographene oxide actually kind of linked up.
	And, you know, so it was, you know, like, I don't know how long, but it basically sort of stood up in essence in the Petri dish and looked around to see who she was.
	And that freaked her out completely, and she ran from the room and eventually destroyed the sample and all that.
	So I have also dealt with a number of people who are experts on AI, and AI is very involved in the design of this bioweapon.
	Sure.
	And probably all the bioweapons we're going to be encountering in the future.
	And so AI is a huge component.
	And it's a component in the design, in directing it, and in being allowed to direct it, and tell the scientists in essence what to do in order to make the bioweapon itself.
	So That's the angle that I've actually spent a lot of time for the last two years on, and I've done a number of shows and written articles and so on.
	So link that to this.
	Yeah, so I mean, I'm absolutely loving talking to you, and I think the interesting thing for me and the world that
	that we need to get back to is that we need this kind of discourse and we don't we can we can see something we can see similarity in where we see something and we can also see difference and then we can also absolutely bash each other's ideas to the point that that one of us prevails but the other person has at least listened to where that person's coming from and sometimes I mean I think that the the object of any form of epistemology in building knowledge
	Is to find the bits and pieces that work together and then it becomes this concept and then you use this concept in ways, right?
	So, for the sake of also, you know, I think what's interesting is when you talk about sort of the life and death of my work, I will never frame myself in the way that I know that other people are out there.
	I mean, for example, the person that did finally kill this perpetrator in Texas, I mean, he took a shot to the head.
	He's lucky he wasn't wearing a helmet, and he's lucky that it grazed his scalp.
	I cannot be that guy, nor am I ever going to pretend that I was him.
	I'd like to believe that I could act like him when needed, and I'd like to believe that some of my work in this pandemic has proven that I can act.
	I just want to make sure.
	I think you're frozen.
	I want to make sure that we're still here.
	Oh, there we go.
	Okay.
	I think my side just froze up for a second.
	I think that for me, I think it's absolutely important for my integrity and anyone listening to this that I, once again, I'm going to say that I hear where you're coming from.
	And then I've got the conclusion may be the same, but the way that we are interpreting it or even languaging it, I mean, it's important for me to at least say it.
	And I might say it one more time in the interview, because, you know, for example, like if Alex Jones wanted to have me on as big as his audience is, I couldn't do it.
	Simply because I personally know some of the families where he said that Sandy Hook didn't happen or it was a conspiracy or what you would say is an MK operation.
	I also know that one of the people that I was in discussion with that Alex Jones tormented was a neuroscientist who committed suicide.
	And his daughter Arielle was killed at Sandy Hook.
	And part of that is that when you've lived a reality, there's ways that people can torture you by gaslighting you.
	And it's the same that's happening to long haulers now who are told by medical professionals that their symptoms are all in their head when it's actually venom.
	Or the same way as people at the beginning of this were driving me crazy for my industry, saying that the pandemic is not really happening and it's made up.
	But people are dying.
	And even if they weren't dying from the spike protein, their neglect or their purposeful, you know, being given other medicines that were killing them still made it a mass killing.
	And I could not get these people and still have not get them on board to help me.
	The equivalent for me when you talk about life and death is it often feels like I'm in a building pursuing a mass killer on my own, which nobody should ever do.
	That you should at least try and wait for your buddy and go in together.
	But I feel absolutely abandoned by law enforcement up to this point, abandoned by the agencies that I've worked with.
	I sent a letter to the FBI in June of 2021 laying this out for them, which you may or may not know.
	And I'm working this problem of a mass killing in my way alone.
	And I'm not alone in the extent that there's people like you, And there's people like James and there's Robert Malone in some way who doesn't get a complete get out of jail card.
	We can get into that another day.
	That's good that you say that.
	A man that has spent 30 years building bio-warfare really should just be telling people what the antidote is.
	I know what the antidote is.
	He knows this better than I do.
	I've been a quick study.
	He's been working on the solutions and the problem for 30 years, so I think it's fascinating that he wants to take a moral high ground.
	That's not what the world really needs right now.
	Just switch it off.
	Just tell people how to switch it off, like I am doing, right?
	And so, what I want to say with the level of this is that, I will just say it one more time, and it's not to change your mind on it, it's to let anybody listening that may have gone through a mass killing like the one that just took place in Texas, I don't believe.
	I'll use the Unabomber as an example to this.
	The Unabomber was experimented on and the Unabomber was damaged through MK experiments.
	The Unabomber, who went out and killed people, but was the Unabomber ever purposefully used and was he triggered in some sort of, you know, what's it called?
	I slipped my mind right now in terms of just, you know, giving someone the signal and they'll turn on and go and do what they told, right?
	I am yet to see in all of my research on this topic and working all of this and getting debriefed on them, I'm yet to find any evidence That these people are not coming from a completely personal pathological problem, reinforced and allowed to happen as part of the agenda.
	But you're giving these scientists and these agencies way too much credit.
	One, their competence.
	These are not smart people.
	For the most part.
	And then the second part is, they're lazy.
	They're incredibly lazy.
	And so you will only find a handful on the planet, including the actual killers, obsessed enough to do the kind of work that you're even talking about.
	And theoretically it's possible, but there's an easier way to achieve it.
	For example, I'll tell you the way that Cuomo In terms of 8,000 people were killed by taking people in nursing homes in East State and taking them out of their rooms and putting them into the dining room or into bigger areas and then bringing in infected patients.
	And those infections weren't SARS-CoV-2.
	That could be C. diff, that could be pneumonia, that could be TB, and ultimately introducing a pathogen in a room with a closed door to vulnerable people that are 92 years old that haven't been let outside for two years and their vitamin D levels have crashed.
	You will kill them in days without any sophisticated programming of turning on a sleeper cell somewhere.
	There's much more simple ways and part of that, for example, is we have ample evidence to show that the technology of blue screens And raising children, right, is messing with their dopamine.
	And here's where the problem lies.
	And I did over two hours of testimony to the Texas Senate and included this research component.
	If somebody is on a device, especially playing a game, you trigger a part of the human brain that puts them into a hunting mode, a fixation that is basically a superhighway between the limbic system and the frontal lobe.
	Nothing else matters.
	You get tunnel vision.
	And part of that is you don't even blink anymore.
	Now, your average child without autism is not going to ever manifest itself as an epigenetic switch to create a type of autism that is homicide-suicide.
	But if you take somebody that's already got neurological issues of fixation, neurological issues of OCD about certain things, and you put them on a killing simulator, and you don't tell the world that that's high and you put them on a killing simulator, and you don't There is your experiment.
	There is your, without waking someone up, you're allowing mass killers to blossom no different than choosing which flowers you want in your garden.
	And if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you allow that to happen, then you can use those mass killings that are going to spontaneously occur without ever going after and choosing a family and making sure that this family is CIA.
	You will manifest the problem by having more of that problem and then not stopping it.
	If that makes sense as a sort of, I just, I really want to put that out there and we can put that.
	No, I mean, you know, it's in a sense, it's not either or it's both.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay, and I think that that's very important and I wouldn't, you know, try to lessen your testimony on that.
	Obviously, you know what you're talking about in very specific incidents.
	Yes.
	But we also know that there is a whole sort of system and network and You know, it's actually more than we have time for in this interview.
	Even at this point, we're probably going beyond.
	But, you know, let's say you know about Gladio and you know about, you know, that whatever they call something 13, you know, we have groups.
	And places where people have gone to actually figure out.
	And then we have testimonies from people like Chip Tatum, for example, who worked for those people, setting up those operations, okay?
	And even actors that have been hired.
	You've got your perfect example of what just happened with the U.S.
	Capitol invasion.
	We know it was feds.
	That infiltrated the groups that grow people.
	You're 100% correct.
	And, you know, I always like to point to, it's called, you know, is it Avalon in Colorado that they're, you know, with the kid that was Patsy and his parents were very involved in the financial world.
	In other words, these targeted individuals who have been planned to play a role, and I even know, by the way, an individual that they were grooming to do that, you know, that he kind of like found out and then told me that he was afraid that that's what they were grooming him for, that kind of thing.
	And then, you know, and then we have TIs, targeted individuals, and a whole litany of stuff there.
	And it points to the Air Force and their weaponry that they are using to target these individuals.
	And so, You know, it's both.
	What we agree on both, regardless of the methodology, is that ultimately that they are currently using almost a A massive, magnified, hyper version of these techniques have all come together at this time to drive this and that there are multiple ways.
	I've been pointing people to the work of Edward Bernays to understand, that was Freud's nephew, to understand how propaganda works and how PR companies are involved.
	And, you know, they've shown you television, you know, that it used to be in the 1950s, there's this thing where actually late at night, 11 o'clock on, they would broadcast these messages.
	I mean, these were experiments, you know, and then the experiments of the Nazis, which of course...
	And they're about to distract the population from the massive die-off that's occurring in numerous ways, including monkeypox, as the explanation.
	But in part, there's always truth in something.
	So I'll add the part when you mentioned monkeypox, and a lot of people have been asking me about monkeypox.
	This is not my first rodeo with these techniques.
	I happen to have worked the HIV-AIDS epidemic that Fauci and this group ran, and maybe they were attempting to do what they're doing now.
	Maybe the timing was off.
	I know that it's around the same time that they started working on this particular bioweapon, and so it took them a while to get to the point where they're ready to pull the trigger on it.
	But the HIV-AIDS epidemic, for me, Was fascinating in a couple of ways that are very similar and it's guided the way I've been helping people.
	For one of which is, nobody actually dies of HIV.
	I think a lot of people know that by now, but it was interesting to see that with my own eyes.
	What happens with HIV is the weakened immune system that arrives through various ways, including the same way, vaccines and treatments.
	Right?
	Drive up infection that already exists.
	Now, for those that don't believe that infection is outside of the body, we can agree that regardless of whether you're a terrain theorist or believe that viruses float in the air and microbes are out there, what we can agree on is that the infections rise and that part of it is a compromised ability to keep things balanced.
	And so ultimately, they pushed play on that, but on a much bigger way.
	Because in South Africa, the people that were dying from AIDS were those that were either getting experimental vaccines, taking viral treatments, like we know that they're using right now in terms of PaxLavid or Remdesivir, that ultimately then cause the injuries and death.
	To sell more solutions and to bring down and to increase the death toll.
	But the difference between what they did with HIV is HIV was pitiful numbers in terms of what they've now done.
	And when I say pitiful, I'm seeing it through their eyes, like the level of dissatisfaction that they must have had when they first tried this, right?
	And now the satisfaction that they've got, where they got half the planet to buy into this.
	is an immense step in the right direction for them.
	And so you are going to see the pox diseases.
	And the reason that you'll see a higher level of the pox diseases is that by using an adenovirus platform, those inserts and the way that those will interact with bacteria and other pox viruses in the body, you will throw off the natural systems that keep those viruses in check.
	And so they rise to the surface.
	And we already saw that with, and even I had, not only the data shows this, but I had my own friends reach out to help, where they would suddenly take the vaccine and get shingles.
	And it's, you know, it's in their bodies.
	It's a latent virus from the pox family.
	And so monkey pox will be milked, both in terms of fear porn and creating mass hysteria.
	But the actual infections will exist and they'll label it monkey pox.
	It will be a combination of monkey pox, small pox, shingles, which is also in the pox family, chicken pox, but these infections and cancers, the rare cancers that are in these families will also, just like the HIV epidemic, they're on the rise.
	The other one that's related to the adenovirus platform and increasing infection are all the menococcal bacterias.
	That will cause things like meningitis and there is an uptick on those as well around the world and especially in places where you'll have higher humidity and you'll have bacteria that need moist humid environments like Florida.
	And so they have triggered the infections that they wanted to occur on a global scale.
	And I can see you've got another way I'll be interpreting it, and I'm quite happy to hear.
	I actually, because of our limited time, you didn't quite answer my question before, so I'm following you here, and I want to get back to this idea of nano and AI, and then I'll throw another piece in that has to do with radiation.
	Okay, so the nano part is really easy to understand in that everything, when you get to the point where equipment is only as good as the measurements that it reads.
	And so, you know, the ancient astronomers and astrologists were limited by the telescopes that they could build.
	Well, the ability to see further and it's the same thing with scale.
	So, the more, the tinier you can read either physically through lenses and imaging and staining and then also using frequency and spectrometry in terms of shapes and colors,
	The accelerated growth that we've had in all technology is not only powered by the tool itself, but by the processing speed that you need for the machine to process what it's seeing.
	Similarly to the human brain and to other species.
	Other animals below us see less color, My brain development.
	And so, you need the ability for the eyes to develop, but you also need the processor.
	In other words, our brains, when you talk about AI, when you talk about the large scale of machines, bear in mind that only, I think it was maybe 40-50 years ago, To run a calculator, to do the kind of calculations that we can just go now and just buy a calculator for, you know, a dollar, you know, the machinery took a whole room.
	So you can understand where we are, that it's not only a matter of artificial intelligence.
	It's the processing of data that allows things like the genomic sequence, and allow peptide research, and allow nanoparticle research.
	The ability to see what's happening on an atomic scale.
	To see a mesh form, to understand that what frequencies will disrupt that mesh.
	When you get down to that scale, you can control atoms at that scale with light, with sound.
	With frequency, which is a form of sound, and you can get it to behave in atomic ways, where you are switching it on, switching it off, getting it to be attractive to each other, separating it out.
	I think the part that most people should do for themselves, and not your audience, but people that don't know how far we are on this, is that just anyone can go onto YouTube, And have a look at technology's magnetic particles that are out there that they're starting to experiment in the human body and putting it into plasma and watching it go and switching it on to take over a clock, right?
	The idea of Neuralink.
	Right?
	I mean, we're already there with neuro-pacemakers, and in fact, unknowingly, without more time, when I gave my testimony to the Texas Senate, I actually sound very, and I still am, pro-neurotransmitter to fix certain diseases in the human brain.
	What I was not necessarily articulating is that when you fix a problem for good, you allow that same solution to be used for nefarious purposes.
	And so for every technology, I mean, look at us, we're talking to each other through time and space.
	We're not in the same room.
	We're on bandwidth over here.
	We've got good bandwidth.
	So that's less glitchy than somebody.
	If you were talking to somebody in Kenya somewhere, it would be different, right?
	So technology is ultimately a great tool and that great tool can also be used to weaponize it.
	And I think where we are right now That should be really easy for anyone to understand and the bulk of my work that I'm driving for is I want those that are using our current technology to be held accountable.
	I want them prosecuted.
	I'm not here to decide whether they get the death sentence or not.
	That's for our judicial systems around the world to decide what the crimes are worthy of.
	I think what's interesting for me is that is always the first part, holding people accountable.
	Really important for the life of my son and any other child out there is that we reign in technologies with actual ethical standards that allow real bodies of regulation.
	Currently, the world's most dangerous population are people that work in peptides.
	Because everything is protein.
	Every living creature on this planet are strings of protein.
	And they have the ability to synthesize everything.
	And just before this call, I was looking something else up.
	And then, of course, a sponsored link came up.
	And I went over to a company that sells mRNA.
	And part of it is they sell CRISPR.
	Now, I own a chemical engineering company, so I can order it.
	The fact that I can go as a human being on this planet and order genetically based genetic engineering equipment to use in a lab without any standards, without anybody asking who I am or what the work that I would be, should scare every living person and every animal on this planet.
	There's currently no regulation for any of this and the regulators that are involved have absolutely no moral compass.
	And we have lost our way.
	I mean, as far as being anywhere close to stewards of the earth or having any form of morality as a species, we're done.
	We're done.
	Because our leadership doesn't have it.
	And we are voting these people in, we're paying their salaries, we're buying from these companies.
	To me, the solution remains the same that Moses used when this happened to Egypt with their technology, is that Moses realized that they were never going to be able to win a war against that form of royalty in that time.
	They're chosen gods, they're reptilian, whatever you want to call it.
	They knew that they could not win.
	So what they did, through a form of negotiation, is that they left.
	They left the system.
	What I call the answer to the Great Reset is the Great Exodus.
	We literally have to leave these systems daily.
	We have to use them less and less.
	I would absolutely know that proof of concept is that one day we are not talking to each other through Zoom of data.
	And AI, and grooming, and all of the rest that come with this technology.
	And we're just meeting in person once again around Sakam Fire.
	And the reason that they've isolated us, and the reason that we weren't allowed to go to each other's, you know, funerals, or ceremonies, or a christening, or whatever it was, is that human beings, the best form of communication is the spoken word, Without any interruption between two parties, interpreting it, censoring it, deciding who records it.
	Right?
	I mean, all of that is getting directly to human communication.
	The truth of it is human-to-human without layers in between it.
	And so, you know, I think part of it for me, and in answering the question directly, is that this is AI-driven in the extent... I'll give you a great example of how AI is driving morality.
	We know through things like Philip Zimbardo's experiments of how quickly morality can change when you give someone power, like the prison guard experiments that he did.
	We also know through Stanley Milgram's experiments into how badly it can go when a human being, under the pressures of authority, will create harm and death to someone else.
	What I was always interested in is that those experiments lack the idea of looking at the person that's giving the commands in the first place.
	There is very few people in the world that have ever really had an interest of studying psychopaths and what drives their behavior and how normal they are in the extent of they appear to be normal human beings and their deficits They will never be successful without enablers.
	And the AI piece to this, that is a big part of why this is occurring, for example, if somebody had a concern at the beginning of the pandemic when the vaccines were being rolled out, if they had a concern about the vaccine and they called a hotline number, or they called their local hospital, that hotline number, they assumed they were talking to a human being.
	That person sounded empathetic.
	That person sounded reassuring.
	That person would spend a whole day with them on the call.
	They sounded sweet.
	They sounded like they had a world of information.
	They were talking to a bot.
	Right at the beginning of the pandemic, Microsoft bought the leading medical speech synthesizer used for medical-related phone calls and implemented those across the nation for the hotline centers where people thought they were talking to a human.
	And the reason for that is that over time, most human beings have found it harder and harder to go along with being on the side of Milgram's experiment of seeing the injuries and death That their lives were causing, and they would naturally be found repulsive enough to become whistleblowers, to quit their jobs.
	A lot of those people that you saw not actually injecting the person, right?
	We interpret it often as, oh look, they're not even really giving the vaccines to people.
	Well, a lot of those people were doing it because they were ethical, and they actually knew that they were going to kill the person.
	Right.
	And so part of that is replace those more and more.
	This is the part that's transhuman.
	When you start replacing soldiers with robot dogs with weaponry on them from Boston Dynamics, they have no morality.
	They shoot whoever you tell them to shoot.
	The great comparison that you were able to bring to this conversation in a way that I've not been able to help others to see is that they also, like every other time period, they do probes and they do their own sort of litmus test to see where the population is on how far they can push their boundaries.
	So we just saw one of the biggest experiments of our time was The equivalent of baby sacrifices.
	If whether you want to call it reptilian or if I want to call it royalty or an elitist somewhere, wanted to see if they had control either by calling themselves God or fear or that they had the fear of the army, law enforcement, whatever it is on their side where people law enforcement, whatever it is on their side where people go along.
	They would invite the populace to tortures and baby murders to see whether people were comfortable with what was going on, enough to hand their own children over.
	And so what they just did to the U.S. is they were needing to see if they're ready to bring in the starvation.
	So what did they do?
	They put it out there and created a fake baby shortage, a baby formula, to absolutely see how repulsed the nation was going to be enough if we'd go and lock the doors of all of these agencies, or we would absolutely call for the resignation of our president immediately.
	You're sending all of this money to the Ukraine, but you're starving our children.
	You absolutely are no longer capable of representing the populace.
	Whether you were voted in factually or fraudulently is now irrelevant.
	Your own level of incompetence, which I won't call incompetence, it's willful.
	I think another thing that is lost on people is if you go through the history of time, even to the point that it's spelt out in the tariff card, in the tarot card, the wise fool, you will always see that every king would always have a jester.
	And often the jester was actually the king.
	And part of it was that you absolutely have to sometimes act like a buffoon so that your vile acts will look like incompetence rather than nefarious play.
	And the people will create disbelief.
	There is no way Biden could be doing this.
	The guy can't even find his way through the garden.
	Absolutely can find his way through the garden.
	But if we believe he can't, then we also believe that he's incapable of striking these deals that are currently going on in the background.
	If we're looking at his lack of being able to make a speech, we couldn't possibly believe that he could be on a call.
	To the WHO setting this up, right?
	And so they play with us in the same way as the Egyptians played with their populace or anyone else.
	And part of it is the child sacrifice to see how far they'll go.
	And so they passed their own test.
	There was very limited reaction, and still is, to the idea of food shortages to the point that people could imagine babies starving.
	And some of them are starving to death.
	There are certain babies that their specialized formula, for good or bad, whether somebody believes in these formulas or not, they were on these formulas.
	They have certain conditions that they need certain formulas.
	They weren't getting them.
	They're starving to death.
	And no one cares.
	So they will absolutely not start starving the population.
	I mean, I appreciate how you're characterizing that.
	I don't... I'm not so sure that's true.
	I mean, I know that they had a shortage.
	I know the shortage is affecting people that, you know, feed their babies that.
	But it's kind of like there's ways to get around that, one would think.
	You have a blender, you have some food, you make your own baby formula thing.
	If you are to the point where we are as a civilization in a modern day world, where most people couldn't even make a fire in their fireplace.
	I recently had an AirBnB experience where people put a barbecue, they brought the barbecue inside the home that we AirBnB.
	And so you're dealing with a civilization where they get their food from companies like Blue Apron that will arrive with the ingredients and like human beings.
	That is going to be the wave of the future that this is going to have to change.
	We see that, right?
	Right.
	I mean, you know, and you can sit there and, you know, really, you're great.
	You can just go on and on and that's, you know, and everything will fit together, okay?
	But I still want an answer, kind of, to my question.
	Sure, so specifically with the nanoparticle.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	The question I want you to answer, before we move any further along this road, and this actually is, I've got to wrap this up, but is this.
	I just told you about a NASA scientist, okay, who has said something very interesting about The way Nano operates.
	And I don't know, you kind of didn't convince me that you've gone down that road much.
	So, maybe you haven't.
	Yeah, I know.
	I mean, I have gone down it, but what I will often do, right?
	Do you not believe it?
	No, I believe it.
	I absolutely believe it.
	I also know that the major part of this vaccine development took place, as I said, in the Commonwealth countries.
	I also know that the graphene oxide that is heavily involved in this, one of the major players in the vaccine development that lives in the Western province, of Australia is involved in graphene oxide.
	And so the graphene oxide, my issue with the graphene oxide as a scientist or as somebody that could give testimony, is that I am waiting, right, and patiently waiting and enjoying That other people are working further and further towards the analysis of both the vaccines, of the side effects of the vaccines, because in my opinion up to now, there isn't enough concrete evidence
	For it to be a scientific testimonial, at least for me.
	If the NASA scientist has got something else, there's issues with looking at things and not having the equipment enough to even know what you're looking at.
	For example, we know that the spike protein and its virus are filled with what are called metalloproteins.
	Venoms are metalloproteins.
	They are in a family of alkaloids and the destruction on the human body is they're going to work like switches and they interfere with conductivity.
	So you have to be sure that you have the equipment enough to know which metals you're looking at.
	There is also copper nanoparticles in the vaccines.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And a mesh of nanoparticle copper, right, is going to be very difficult unless you absolutely got the right technology to be looking at it.
	You know you're looking at a metal, you know you're looking at a magnet, you know you're looking at magnetic qualities.
	Can you be sure of what you're looking at?
	And I think that there was only one person, and I assume that it's correct that he got assassinated, who was putting out this information on the graphene oxide.
	For example, Robert Young has used the electron microscope and found this, and a contact of mine has done the same thing.
	And, you know, there's more evidence out there, I'm sure.
	And yes, it's actually rather a secret area.
	It would be probably in an above-top secret, okay?
	What they know about this, which is why the guy who gave me the testimony, however brief, about the nano jumping and, you know, connecting, because magnetically what happens is the spike protein is attracted and connects itself to the graphene nano oxide.
	So, and then it does this thing which, you know, you're not addressing, which has to do with jumping.
	Now, that is a really bizarre way of looking at things, and I realize, but for example, let me ask you, have you seen Geordi Rose and the D-Wave Machine?
	Have you seen his TED Talk?
	No.
	No, I have not.
	He, he, we're talking about, and this, you know, it gets into physics, it gets into, again, you know, what we're really talking about is going into the quantum level when you're looking at this stuff, and apparently they have done so with this machine, and it's being used by a large number of aerospace companies at this point, and certainly a lot of companies in the underground bases and so on.
	So, It actually has been a very successful...
	Uh, invention, if you want to call it that.
	And he stood next to it and said, it can read my mind.
	Now, he might be full of it, but I would encourage you to go watch his, because it's, it's actually been like at least five years and maybe seven years old at this point.
	So it's old technology already, at least as far as surface humans go.
	And you know, we haven't talked about the secret space program and all of that.
	You know, I don't have enough time to go into all of this with you.
	Sure.
	Let me ask you one last question.
	Absolutely.
	Have you ever read the book Prey by Michael Crichton?
	No.
	Okay.
	May I suggest that it's actually required reading?
	Sure.
	And he's a scientist, a PhD, who instead of following science, you know, as a career and becoming a doctor, he actually decided to write books.
	And he's famous for having written The Andromeda Strain and a whole slew of thrillers, medical, whatever you want to call those thrillers.
	And He died a few years ago.
	I think he was killed, but that's another matter.
	So, if you have ever envisioned what nano is really capable of, and then there's another way that you can go, which has to do with this scientist Eric Drexler, who's considered something like the father of nano.
	Have you heard of him?
	No.
	Okay.
	So, I'm not trying to, you know, show you up here, I'm just trying to say that this is an area, you know, it sounds like you've actually investigated the spike part, but the nano part, and how they work together, and where they go from there, and what the transhuman agenda really is, and where that leads, and why they do the things they do, that seem, if you're just looking at it from the surface, illogical.
	And by the way, the fact that the tests We actually did our own experiment and found out the tests themselves contain graphene nano oxide.
	And you've got to say to yourself, why are they putting it in the swabs as well?
	A lot of them are both with nanoparticle gold.
	What I think is crucial with an interview like this is that I'm not discounting.
	I think anybody at this point would be a fool to discount that we're working towards nanotechnology's period.
	The idea of mRNA is a nanotechnology.
	You're taking down compounds from giant-sized, synthesized pharmaceuticals and you're stripping it down to the tiniest forms.
	So you can get a reaction in the human body from a bungalow toxin that is only 13 amino acids long.
	That's nano.
	That's smaller than small.
	You're getting to the point where even something like the spike protein itself is a giant.
	Compared to copper, you know, you can have a huge mesh of copper and those are going to be tiny as compared to one giant glycoprotein, right?
	So, I'm not discounting that.
	I'm also not discounting of where I think that we both come to the conclusion of where it's going.
	I think that it is all about around the idea of purpose.
	So where I'm currently with my research, and maybe this is at least from my side what we could end with, is that I started off by trying to understand the pathology and I'm trying to understand agenda.
	And then I'm also realizing that there are multiple agendas, which is why it always seems confusing.
	And there's multiple players in being able to have something occur.
	When you refer to James Holmes, for example, in Arizona with the theater, that's also different from the type of mass killers where they pair up and you've got a dominant and a submissive.
	And so you have to look at the way that groups come together to do a killing.
	The closest match to this would actually be the hyper-violent communities of chimpanzees.
	That on this planet that band together and they go and do mass slaughters.
	And they will also have mutual and individualistic agendas.
	And so for me, the way that I have to work through things, and it's not the only way, but it's the way that works for me, is that I will try and cut through as many layers to find the simplicity.
	Do I believe that the end goal of this will be a part where the world is vastly depopulated?
	Absolutely.
	Do I believe the closest description to that comes from the committee of 300s?
	Absolutely.
	What should terrify anybody in that description is there's no mention of the African race.
	There's no mention of a single black person.
	It says the world that would be left is a billion people made up of 500 million essentially Europeans and then Asians.
	Asians making up the bulk of the working class because they specifically in that description understand that the type of technology and the type of dominance that they want without much work and compliance can come from Asian cultures that tend to be a lot more compliant.
	They follow their leaders in ritualistic ways that it makes it energy efficient much more than trying to tame someone like me or you.
	We're untameable.
	Right.
	And so part of it is if you look at that description, I understand that a huge part of this in and when I say long term, not long term at all in terms of, you know, we're talking about years, not decades.
	Right.
	And we know that I can see that data is starting to match up now in terms of the dials.
	The next part to it is, do I believe that the psychopaths that drive technology are totally fine with human-machine interface?
	Well, we're using it right now.
	So, all we're really talking about is the advancement of technology, where if I want to look something up, the distance between the operator And the platform is minimized to a thought, right?
	That is what Elon Musk, for example, is leading as a technology, right?
	I mean, the idea of also having humanoids that are controllable because they're simply not free-thinking conscious beings, of course, we already know that, right?
	In terms of that's the driver.
	Now, when you talk about nanotechnology and AI, I think that perhaps the confusion here is that I don't even believe that it would meet the level of anything that seems... I don't even know what word to use, whether it's conspiracy or secret.
	If you go on to TED Talks or you go on to YouTube or you look through academic papers and patents, all of it currently is nanotechnology.
	And all of it is about how you are interfacing, especially metals, right, as part of processing.
	Now, there's another layer to this that would also, to people that are not keeping up with current science, would sound like sci-fi, which is that storage, besides processing speed, this memory, where you would host data, can only be replaced by microbes.
	We've outgrown the capacity where the processing speed can use digital storing space in terms of strings of code.
	And so what they're currently working on is you'll be able to store more information in a bacteria than you will ever from a whole room underground, you know, with servers.
	Yes.
	And so that's an aspect of it.
	I'd like to say nothing about water.
	In terms of being able to program water and, yes.
	Store information that water has memory and this is an improvement.
	Sure, sure.
	I mean, I appreciate that.
	I mean, you definitely are painting a picture that tells me you have knowledge in this area, you know, and that's very comforting in a sense to me because I'm concerned that you're in a sort of a key role.
	Right?
	You're basically straddling two worlds, and I find very few people are quite able to do that at the moment.
	You know, I may be wrong, but that's what I've found.
	Very few people are, and I think that the issue that I'm facing and that I'm I think the problem that's the hardest to solve for me is not understanding their agenda, not understanding their chemistry or even understanding the bioweapons.
	It's all laid out.
	I mean, to get patents, you have to spell it out and academic papers to get grants, you have to explain it.
	So you can go back to those and you can trace it.
	A challenge for us around this topic that don't necessarily want this to go in the direction that it's going is articulating The problem to a populace that was apathetic before the pandemic and that is vastly more apathetic now to the point where they may be unsavable.
	And I'll say that, I don't know if you're familiar with this piece that I've been talking about in interviews, but there is multiple, as I suggested to the FBI in June of 2021, and for anybody, I sometimes read comments and I think one comment that struck me and that made me laugh the other day was when someone said, you know, why bother with the FBI?
	They were never going to investigate it anyway.
	I know that.
	What I wanted to do is leave a public document.
	What I wanted to do for my own sanity is leave markers along the way.
	I also do my own protest to see who's savable.
	Who's still working for the common good?
	Who actually is curing us?
	I would have been fine if any of the people that I emailed from divisions that I know well, if they would have just called me offline and then said, there's no way my boss can let me chase it, but I don't want my kid dying.
	Can you tell me more about this?
	I would have been fine with that.
	The fact that there was no reaction.
	Let me know in my own test who is going to solve this problem, and it's going to be regular folks, civilians.
	Unfortunately, this is very much the same way in Texas that people are criticizing law enforcement for not going in.
	Law enforcement has not gone in during the pandemic, and I don't think they ever will.
	And I keep asking them to come in and I keep pushing them to come in, but I've run out of patience and I've run out of faith in my own tribe where I know these people and I understand that, I won't go into it, but I understand of how they got to the point.
	Where they are not interested in solving this problem.
	But it's a big problem for society when your protectors that are naturally, innately protectors, have been switched off.
	That's a huge problem.
	And then lastly, the bio side that is interesting, maybe only in a way that interests me in a stimulating way because I like things that I missed the first time around.
	And what I missed about the venom the first time around is I was concentrating on its injury and its death.
	What I wasn't concentrating is the mind control.
	And so when you play with nicotinic receptors, what you've essentially done with the planet is you've got them addicted to the same thing that nicotine does.
	You've got them addicted to the feeling of blocking their neurotransmitters to take the edge off life.
	And so there is only within that category of nicotinic receptors, a very small subset that you will make more violent.
	Right.
	The rest of the human beings that are at risk for nicotine to do what it does, and it's the exploit that built the empire known as the tobacco industry, is that it ultimately dulls down a population.
	It makes people apathetic.
	Somebody wanting to go and punch their boss out while they're at work will go and take a smoke break.
	And they'll come back and they won't quit their job that day.
	Well, I mean, beer and marijuana do the same thing more or less.
	They do, but they've got very different toxic processes in terms of the body ridding itself.
	They also have very different half-lives.
	The issue with nicotine and the way that it's being used now is they call it irreversible.
	In other words, until you find a stronger and purposeful antagonist, to an agonist and you introduce that, those neurotransmitters stay blocked.
	So in other words, this is why people lose their taste and smell and why it stays off for the time that it does.
	The body is going to find it incredibly difficult to unplug because the binding affinity of the spike protein to the nicotinic is such a perfect match that it is very difficult for those for the for the nerves to stop creating transmission and so they basically either on an off position or an on position that they're not coming on and off the way action potential is supposed to work and so that's why they will call it a
	It's not irreversible in the point that you can't reverse it artificially, but without a massive push, they will stay plugged in, which means that, similar to why they suddenly made CBD oil and medical marijuana, This is all part of dulling down a population, making them apathetic, making them even more lazy, taking away critical thinking.
	An interesting part is that nicotine is not known as a stimulant that creates thinking.
	That's always been the mythology around smokers, that they smoke and it does help them stimulate the brain.
	It stimulates the brain, but not in the way that it will stimulate the prefrontal cortex.
	It will stimulate the brain in reptilian ways and in limbic system ways, but it is not as stimulant like cocaine would be or anything else.
	It's a form of anesthetic.
	It dulls you down.
	I didn't know that.
	But I just, you know, and we do have to shut this down.
	I just want to ask you, how did you go from snake venom to nicotine?
	Is there a connection there that I'm trying to... Yeah, so the snake venom, first of all, there's hundreds of types of venoms, and then there are patterns where venoms work together.
	And interestingly enough, the word for venoms working together is a cabal, which is really, I mean, you know, you can see what you're dealing with.
	I would have fun with that.
	The peptide scientists that worked on this like 30 years ago labeled them cabals and they work together to form mutual agendas.
	Venoms will come together in patent to succeed in a mutual goal.
	And so part of it is that When you talk about venom, you have to understand what is the venom doing as a chemical switch in the body, and that this particular SARS-CoV-2, the venoms that were used, their binding affinity is with what's called nicotinic acetylcholine receptors.
	And the jump into nicotine is that the venom is doing the same as nicotine would, but in an even more powerful way.
	So in other words, the binding affinity is even stronger to basically control the nervous system.
	So it dulls the senses?
	Yes, it dulls the senses.
	Well, that's very fascinating.
	I think that a snake or, you know, with venom, in a sense, that is what they're doing.
	They're doping up their victim, right?
	Yes.
	And so they can, you know, consume them or whatever.
	Yes, because they gotta consume... They can't have them wiggling around or anything, right?
	A hundred percent, right?
	So in a final way that helps to see why it's important that we understand that, and why we understand why we're not getting the support from people that surround us, and why the world is going around it, is that essentially the first layer of this, including the vaccine rollout, is compliance.
	And so ultimately, if you think about the timing, there is no way they could roll out a program that they're not denying that they're doing, a program of centralizing a government to one centralized government and rolling out one currency, one You know, call it U.S.
	Treasury.
	It's not the U.S.
	Treasury.
	It's BlackRock that owns the U.S.
	Treasury that will then own cryptocurrency that will then allow other countries and private entities to participate in cryptocurrency.
	But it is owning the space.
	The same way owning the internet is not supposed to be owned.
	It is the same way as currency is supposed to be partially regulated and it's supposed to be traded on some form of tangible, which we know is certainly not the case anymore.
	But even further than that, while they're extorting the countries that wouldn't run along with this, is that they need every country to be either willingly involved or to be forced to turn over the entire monetary system to one bank.
	And that was never going to happen without, what did you say, doping, I think that's a perfect word, doping the prey.
	And the first layer in my opinion now, and it took me a long time to figure out what they were doing besides the injury, besides the death, it is absolutely working as what they call in bio-warfare, it's an incapacitator.
	You're incapacitating your enemy.
	And this is no different than a taser.
	It is using an electrical charge to bring the person down in a non-lethal way.
	And occasionally, and there's high risk populations, a taser will kill somebody by mistake.
	And so there are mistakes along the way that this vaccine is collateral damage.
	And then there's the purposeful ones, but they need to also be understood because they're very separate.
	And we, it's sadly, and it's sort of, Shockingly that we almost end with this, because I really like to give people hope, is that even those that are completely aware of what's going on must realize that what they've seen, if you're looking at the pandemic as a movie, right, you've literally seen 15 seconds of the trailer.
	It hasn't begun.
	We are describing something, you and I are talking about it, we know where it's going.
	Where we are is that we were at the clock where some of this was stoppable until fairly recently.
	Now there's parts to it that are unstoppable, that are already running, and it's going to be immensely challenging to put the brakes on them.
	We can counter some of the effect that's going to take place, but they're in play already.
	The slide is happening.
	There's part to it that's devastating.
	Yeah, and that gets into a lot of other things that would be fun to talk about.
	All right, so this is a great start, really.
	I mean, you're so knowledgeable that it seems like we could just go on and on with this topic.
	Yeah, I think that the financial system and what they're doing and why and how the one world government thinks it's going to operate and be successful and all of that and dulling down the population.
	I mean, the population dulling has actually been occurring for quite a long time.
	You know, television, you know, if you want to say television was really the beginning of it, it seems to me.
	But there's more there, and I do think that some people are immune to that as well, as you know, right?
	So technology is not always able to supersede humans and what we are capable of, right?
	So if you want a sort of a hopeful end to this, I mean, we're a lot more than we realize even at this moment, and My point of view on all of this is that there's nothing that comes before us that we can't surmount, okay, if we wish.
	And that those challenges are meant to wake people up.
	Now, you seem to think that maybe there's not much evidence of people being woken up out of their stupor.
	In the last two years, I do see a greater activity in humans, a greater rebellion, you know, and they may not be that effective at changing the agenda at the moment, but they're still active they're still you know doing what they can and they're hitting the streets and in record numbers when necessary and or at least when they see it's necessary um where that's going to go how long it's going to be able to to go i don't know
	Yeah, there's just a lot that, you know... And I agree, and that is why I remain hopeful.
	I am somebody that I believe that my definition of optimism is hope with a plan.
	I think part of what I'm encouraging people to do and why I really appreciate the space to even flesh out some of these topics, to agree and disagree.
	Yeah, there is a movement.
	That movement needs to unify in ways that we minimize some of the argument and we also start working towards plan and actionable steps, self-protection.
	For example, and I'm just guilty of this, I know the food shortages are coming and every day I talk about what I need, what my family needs, what we need to do.
	We have to see the urgency in some of the things that we're saying out aloud.
	Humor is vital both in terms of keeping us going and having fun with things and keeping our energy up, but it is also When we find ourselves joking about things that are occurring, those are great, great hints.
	I look at somebody like you and I look at the fact of the work that you've been doing and the style that you've been doing and how deep you go and how you're willing also.
	A part to staying awake and keeping those that are not vulnerable to this and why I
	You know, I enjoy the difference of opinion is that in a world that is trying to rob people of individuality, I praise those that want to stay individuals and have, you know, a different way of seeing things because what they've done as a both, this is a hint as I close out on my side for solutions, The gut biome is devastated by the spike protein.
	And there's another reason that I stay away from the stuff that is, maybe I can start doing this differently, I wasn't prepared for your knowledge about the sort of higher level stuff.
	And my stuff is often delivered in ways that I know that people can take charge of their situation.
	Nobody that I know of has necessarily got the tools in a layperson's way to deal with nanoparticle graphene oxide.
	But what I can tell them, for example, is that whether they're vaccinated or they've got COVID or that they've got spike protein from someone shedding, the effect of that when you get sick is the elimination of diversity of the gut biome.
	So what they're doing on a macro level is also what we should understand is happening to us on a biological level.
	So even looking off your gut and reintroducing great probiotics, I'm currently about to start working with a company out of Montana that has some amazing probiotics, prebiotics and probiotics, is that there's a place that people can start with.
	There's a place where I've been encouraging people that at this time With numerous biological weapons being used, about the best thing you can do is keep yourself healthy and a boosted immune system.
	Because all of us are currently, whether it is from 5G, or whether it is from the virus, whether it's from the spike protein, or even just seeing what's happening to our neighbors, right?
	The levels of oxidative stress, is the disease.
	That is the nature of disease.
	Antioxidants are absolutely crucial at this time.
	Can you tell people where to find you?
	And it also sounds like you said you're developing, and it sounds like it's probably going to involve antioxidants or whatever.
	Can you get this or are you selling this already?
	Yeah, so what I did to make sure I got kicked, I was one of the first to have a lifetime ban for example from LinkedIn.
	I'm still on Facebook if people want to find me as Dr. Tal Braun on Facebook.
	That gets obviously switched on and off at will but what I do want people to do is they can go to drtalbraun.com and they can subscribe Because in the event that everything else goes dark, I can still keep up with the email and I can still create communication.
	I'm also hoping that at some point we can switch out and we can even start finding analog ways, group meetings, you know, things, you know, very much the style of Paul Revere.
	I tell you information, you go tell your people, because at some point all of this will go dark anyway, right, in terms of switched off.
	The other website is biochemscience.com, which they can find also at drtaubrohn.com.
	What that is, is I've brought out so far two products, one of which is an antioxidant that is from the cashew shell.
	The other equivalent, or useful I should say, antioxidant that I would recommend is resveratrol, the antioxidant from red wine and grapes.
	The issue with other antioxidants like vitamin C is they're very fragile in an acidic environment, and the spike protein creates an acidic environment.
	So you need so much vitamin C if you've got symptoms that you should really be turning to anacardic, which is the antioxidant that I have, or resveratrol, which is available, you know, sort of, you know, all major stores or online.
	And then the other product is a
	It's called copperine and once again I've created a substance that can be inhaled and it boosts the immune system and it protects the lungs and protects the respiratory system and then it restores two of the most, three of the most important ingredients that whether somebody uses my product or not, the three ingredients that I want people to put back in their bodies during this time is copper, zinc and sulfur.
	Because there is another form of oxidation stress happening in the body.
	And the way that the body deals with that is an enzyme called SOD1.
	And it is what's known as a dismutase.
	And that deals with a form of oxidation.
	That's different from regular oxidation that's much closer to corrosion.
	This type of oxidation is oxide-based, and the body has an incredible way of building it, but it needs copper, zinc, and sulfur to be able to make it.
	Now if somebody's taking zinc, they're going to make themselves copper deficient, even if they've got great copper levels.
	And so, most of the wellness community has been taking wonderful amounts of supplements of zinc, but will start getting sick because they are depleting, their ratio is off.
	So, if they're taking zinc, they should add copper.
	And they don't have to find sulfur in any other form than from food, but they need to look at foods that give sulfur.
	If they're not a vegan, for example, Eggs are an incredible useful tool during any illness, but specifically when it comes to this biological weapon.
	And one way of seeing whether somebody is deficient, if your hair and nails from long-haul COVID or while you're sick are showing signs of wear and tear, your body is grabbing copper and zinc and sulfur From what it determines to be non-necessary parts to your body, because it doesn't want to go to the other stockpiles.
	Right.
	Fascinating.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Very good.
	And it's delightful talking to you.
	You know, very eloquent.
	And I really enjoy listening to your kind of process of thought.
	So hopefully we can do this again in the future.
	And thank you very much.
	I know my audience is going to love this.
	I'll sort of, you know, I can send you the links and you can share them and have them on your website if you're interested in all of that.
	Just give me a couple days because my website is, they're putting it back up.
	It's not all quite together from what I understand just yet, but it'll be a day or so.
	And from me, and I don't know how often you get this, but I just want to say thank you.
	I think that there is a lot of work that goes into the type of work you do.
	It can be a lot of the The behind the scenes of people like you is, you know, no one could ever imagine the amount of research and reading and even just to get to a question that needs to be asked.
	And it can often be a very thankless task.
	I'm sure your audience obviously finds you wonderful and appreciates you.
	But at this time, your type of work, your type of community that you build is absolutely vital, in my humble opinion, to our survival.
	So a really big thank you.
	Thank you.
	Well, thank you very much.
	That's very kind of you.
	All right, so stay in touch and thank you again for being here.
	A pleasure.
	Enjoy the rest of your evening and weekend.
	Okay, you too.
	Bye now.

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