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March 24, 2022 - Project Camelot
01:22:46
KERRY INTERVIEWED BY MADWATCHER TV : UKRAINE, CONSCIOUSNESS AND CURRENT EVENTS
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Thank you.
please welcome Kerry Cassidy to the program.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm Brian Conde and this is Darlene Andi and Darlene you had some things you wanted to introduce Keri.
Well, you know, Carrie, I know that you are well known by the world.
So I don't think that what I'm going to share is going to be unknown.
But I do want to have Brian bring up your book, Rebel Gene, you know, Secret Space and the Future of Humanity, because I know that this is Something that sits really deep in your heart and Brian and I are very intrigued by you speaking of your consciousness and other realms and paradigms and things like that.
So I'd love to open with you know how you started this book and and where we go from here.
Oh, all right.
Well, nice to be here.
Sorry, we had some very strange goings on prior to the show here today.
They're really messing with me, maybe because of what happened yesterday with trying to go live on Telegram.
I don't know, maybe that screwed up my computer, but...
At any rate, you know, my book, Rebel Gene, is all about the 17 years I've been doing this work.
And so I try to wrap some personal stuff in there that I don't necessarily talk about normally.
And also connecting the dots in such a way that it could be a kind of a handbook.
For the new paradigm, if you want to call it that.
And so I was very interested in outing some, you know, some links and some misconceptions and things like that as well.
So it was, I guess you might call it a labor of love.
It was not easy.
Because I had so much to wrap in there.
And I just, you know, I kind of condensed things down and tried to make it manageable.
And it does seem like I might have been successful because people do seem to like it.
So...
I'm glad for that.
Yeah, so that's what it is.
It's really my 17 years in Camelot.
And I could say, you know, any one of my chapters could be elaborated practically into a book, or if you can, you know, see it that way, because there's so much in every topic that we cover.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm so excited to get together with you as our first meeting here on the Mad Watcher TV with you, Kerry, following many things.
And there's so many topics I'd love to dive into with you.
But I would like to start a little bit of an update of what you can share or if there are any new intel on Ukraine.
I've seen the video did recently talking about the BioLabs and the X-Men and even referring to the Hennig prophecies.
And you were being, you know, fairly spiritual talking about what was going on.
And relaying to everybody, we have to go through this, and it's been prophesized in many different ways.
Can you talk more about that?
Well, yes, although I don't necessarily follow, if you mean, biblical prophecies, and so, but in terms of...
Well, you kind of alert it to prophecies that are out there, and even the Hennick, the Bill Meyer, whatever.
Yeah, the Hennick prophecies is Billy Meyer, Pleiadians, you know, and the thing about that particular group of prophecies is that it It seems to be coming true, at least along these lines at the moment.
But the jury's still out, so things are still in motion.
One of the things it said is that there would be a war, and that also that Russia would be In control of Europe, I guess, whenever the war finished or however that worked out.
And that has a lot to do with the pipeline.
Now, whether or not it was limited, because things have really escalated since the White Hats have come forward and really attacked things like child trafficking, human trafficking.
And because Ukraine is a kind of a center for that, It's changed, I think, the normal way we look at war.
So what's going on there is actually not what's in the mainstream news.
It's Putin going into Ukraine, being sort of goaded into doing so by both Zelensky and NATO. And Zelensky's Wanting to join NATO and other countries peripheral to Russia also kind of...
There's actually a really good video that I put on my Telegram channel a couple days ago so that, you know, I have a lot of stuff so you'd have to go back to see it.
But one of these videos out there, which is quite excellent, actually shows that rather than Russia gaining land and gaining countries, To go on board with it, what you see is NATO starting out quite small, and I think it maybe starts around the 1940s or 50s, and then enormously growing so that it encompasses large parts of Europe and other countries, the Eastern Bloc, I guess you might say.
This is where, graphically, you know, visually, it's actually showing you what Putin was reacting to, what he is reacting to, and gives, you know, it substantiates why he would be so troubled by Ukraine, kind of being the last, the straw that broke the camel's back, if you will, wanting to join NATO, that he doesn't want missiles in his backyard.
That's why 107 and others have referred to this as a Cuban Missile Crisis-type moment.
Absolutely.
And very understandably, I have to say.
Now, this is not talked about in the mainstream news in this way.
And I also want to say that we're also talking about a Kazarian mafia that is front and center involved in the child trafficking and that there's a tradition going back with that mafia, even with a certain...
Because they infiltrated the Jewish religion, okay, so it wasn't originally the Jewish religion, but they were pushed at one point in history to choose a religion.
They chose Judaism.
This is at least the story out there right now.
And that they, as a consequence, the Zohar and the Talmud both contain a lot of Khazarian I guess you might say principles and practices and one of those practices is child sacrifice and blood sacrifice and I also talk about the fact that this is also involved in the Middle East in general so there are blood sacrifice cults that
people are not aware of that are really satanic in the Middle East that have been practicing for eons And specifically, I went to, it's where the Tigris and Euphrates join in a place called, I guess, it's Ursa or something like that.
I can't pronounce it properly.
And There's a place, a beautiful ancient site there called Gobekli Tepe.
I went there and made a documentary there, but at the same time I did a bunch of investigation and found that other archaeologists, and they keep this quiet, so they built a beautiful museum in the town, you know,
and this site is up in the mountains above the town, and The actual digging they did there, which was run by Germans, which I find fascinating because when you look into the Middle East, what you end up finding is that the Germans are always in charge of the archaeology.
That seems to go back, I would even say, to Hitler's day.
But when you look into it, you find that there are children's skulls found buried, lots of them, and other kinds of Evidence, you might say.
And then at the time, I don't know how I came across it.
You know, sometimes I sort of have an intuitive thing and I just go searching for information and then something will hit me and I'll go down that road and I'll do, you know, I'll read a book or I'll do whatever.
So in this case, I found a book by a journalist who wrote a fiction-based-on-fact book about what he came across in the Middle East and in the Gobekli Tepe area.
And he talked about, this is how I know about these cults, because he talked about these cults, and he did a lot of research, so then you can research his research, of course, and follow it up.
But this is what we're really dealing with.
We're dealing with a cult that goes back in time, that is now embedded in a religion, the Jewish religion, At least with some rabbis and some parts of it.
Now, I'm sure there are sectors, you know, like any religion, right?
Christianity has a huge number of sectors.
But that, and all of this also goes back to sort of the Anunnaki, you know, the gods who supposedly came down from the sky to earth, and what they were involved in, and the ways they used to control humanity, having to do, again, with sacrifice and various things.
I guess I'm giving you a sort of a wide answer to your question, but if you want to get more specific, you know.
Yeah, well, for sure, because it's ironic that you brought up Gobekli Tepe.
We were just talking about it earlier.
And, you know, it was well woven there.
And I know you had some questions about that, Darlene.
I'm not sure if Carrie answered everything there.
Well, I mean, it opens up so many conversations, but the one thing, you know, as you know, Carrie, we're Canadians, and we went viral with the convoy, and then it's sort of been hush-hush now that we haven't heard about, you know, about True pedo wherever he is right now and but there's a lot of Canadians that they don't really have a recognition of the satanic cults and things like that and Brian and I you know we're into the tunnels and everything that's trafficking
the adrenochrome and so can can you add anything in regards to what you know in relation to that whole story and Canada?
Well, actually I can because I have contacts in Canada.
I've been there, you know, in different areas.
I've been to the Montreal side.
I've also been to Saskatchewan and I've been, you know, to the east in Vancouver area.
I can say that, first of all, Canada is sadly quite heavily involved in the whole satanic side of things, but it comes in by way of the church and by way of orphanages run by nuns, I think it is.
And then, you know, there's even more to that.
So I have gotten even whistleblower testimony about Canada and about Sort of how it's run.
Now, because you guys, well, I don't know, it's kind of unclear to me if you still report to the Queen or you just, you know, or if it's a figurehead or what, because I realize that, you know, on some level, you know, you have your own government, supposedly, but you also seem to report to the Queen and At least in the courtroom, because I know there was this very interesting lawsuit that I'm not going to go on about, but I was following.
And it was put in place in the Canadian court against the Queen, it seemed to me.
Yeah, the Queen, they still give her, you know, like supposedly it's a token rights, but it's more woven in there than people understand.
And many people in Canada don't even understand, Kerry, that Canada itself is a corporation, just like the United States was.
And we actually fall under the United States Corporation registered in Washington, D.C. So there's a whole weave there.
But yes, as mentioned, the adrenochrome and such in Canada, people are so asleep to it in the masses.
They're just not aware.
They don't even think the child trafficking is...
Well, they arrested Nygaard there in Winnipeg.
And so I thought maybe if you could speak about that a little bit, if you have...
Well, I'm not so familiar with this person you're calling Nygaard, so I guess I haven't followed that story, but I can say that I did interview a Canadian.
Her name is Carrie, and I don't have her last name in front of me, but she lived there and grew up most of her life there, and she became sort of a witness to the whole...
Human trafficking, child trafficking, and got very vocal involved in the story.
I don't know if you know who I'm talking about.
Possibly.
Sorry?
Possibly, but not sure.
Sorry, now they're doing some kind of leap blowing right out there.
So...
So anyway, just saying that she did testify and bring that issue forward in Canada a lot.
She was part of the Native, you know, her bloodline was part of the Native Indian tribes up there.
I forget which tribe exactly, but...
So that's a very interesting kind of segue in terms if people want to watch that video and, you know, I can look her up so that you can put it on the notes under this video.
But yeah, so I mean, but this is worldwide.
Okay.
And I think it's important to stress that rather than to focus so much on individual countries.
Now, Part of the reason the Ukraine is sort of seemed to be like a clearinghouse or whatever you want to call that, you know, where money laundering was huge or is huge and child trafficking.
Again, the Kazarian background really playing a big role there and Using it for the biolabs and what appears to be a genetic engineering of humanity that may go back to even the purposes behind COVID,
which I've talked a lot about and done a lot of interviews on, having to do with, you know, the graphene oxide and spike proteins and the mRNA and this drive to change the Basically the DNA of humanity to get from that a humanity 3.0.
And that also factors into the Ukraine area because actually just recently I found out there wasn't, there's not, now we always knew they would probably be lying, but They started out with 11 bio labs.
That was on the front page of Veterans Today, which is run by the CIA. So I figured that was probably a lie.
Not the fact that they were there, but the fact of how many.
So then it went to 30.
And now I understand it's being published as 46.
And I put that on my telegram as well.
So that evidence is out there.
What that means in such a concentrated area is that they're using the humans in their direct area, no doubt about it, as guinea pigs for their bio experiments.
And And likely also the side that has to do with linking people through COVID, through the VAX, to what we call the Borg, the AI. So I know I'm kind of throwing out a lot all in a couple sentences, but I've done whole shows on these topics.
And we've followed many of those, and we touch on all these different subjects, so it's not surprising as you bounce around, because I wanted to ask you, is there an agenda to purely wipe out humanity, or as the Georgia Guidestones say, down to 500 million functional humans?
Is that functional, or is that genetically altered?
And is the rest of everybody's robots?
Well, see, this is the interesting thing that's coming to the fore at the moment.
So because the jabs have gone into, I don't know if this is accurate, but it is being said, around 50% of the population of the planet, okay?
Maybe it's less than that.
I heard...
Another figure that said maybe one-third as opposed to half.
But a lot of people have basically taken the jab.
And what happens there is the beginning of a process in which they can actually use what's called scalar waves, other technology, to...
Twist and change your DNA once you've got this sort of package, this bio package that's been shot in through the jab.
So we're really looking at, as I say, a creating of humanity 3.0.
Now, keep in mind that the Georgia Guidestones were put up there a long time ago.
However, I've gotten...
At least I have two interpretations of that.
One is when they say humans, it's important to realize that humanity 2.0, in other words, the so-called vessels, a lot of the physical vessels, not all, but some out there, especially older people, okay, are even considered humanity 2.0, okay?
Then there might be a halfway measure, and then there are the indigos, and there are ones that they're creating now, a genetically engineered cyborg race.
So when they're saying 500 million, the one person had told me it's not 500 million humans.
They don't consider humans human.
It's the managers.
So they want 500 million managers.
The number of non-human, whatever they consider, you know, what they call useless eaters, they've got a lot of derogatory names for customary humanity, but That is not a factor.
So they weren't talking about that because they don't consider it important.
What they're talking about is how many they're going to let live on the planet.
Now, there is another interpretation that seems to be coming to the fore now.
In which those 500 million will be cyborgs, okay?
Those will be considered the new version of humanity.
So again, if you have populations outside that, they're not talking about calling them humans.
So people that are trying to fit that...
Picture in there are kind of, I think, missing the point.
They're not understanding how these people think quite.
And this is something worth considering.
And we at Camelot, because it goes back 17 years, of course, have had information from whistleblowers about things in which Someday, in the, well, or even now, in the tunnels, they have signs that say pure and unpure or whatever, different classifications for humans.
And some people who are not jabbed consider themselves pure blood.
You must have heard that bandied about.
But Frankly, based on everything I know, that's actually an illusion as well.
Because we are, we have, this is not new.
This drive to genetically Change our genome worldwide, of all humanity, has been constantly changing and upgrading and even downgrading via the Anunnaki, for example.
The Enki Enlil story, this is where I get the title from my book, Rebel Gene, having to do with turning on or off certain gene packages, and one of those things being that As the story goes, according to the Sitchin books that were deciphering the Sumerian tablets, saying that Enki Was giving humans more freedom.
He also mated with a lot of the females, so you ended up with, in a sense, a hybrid race of the indigenous humans that were there, that particular group in Africa, and Enki's bloodline going into the Anunnaki.
So you've got one strain there.
You've also got a group with Enlil that supposedly didn't get involved in Having Enki's seed, if you want to look at it like that.
And of course, this is all put in those terms when, in fact, it's done in a lab.
Back in those days, we're not talking about a scaled-down version of life or the way we think of it.
You know, we're not talking about cavemen and women here.
We're talking about very sophisticated civilizations living on the planet even back then.
And the bottom line is that the Enlil side was only interested in having humans that follow orders.
And now we're back into that scenario, if you think about it, with the COVID thing.
Because the ones that took the jab are the ones that already have a proclivity to believe their masters and follow orders.
Okay?
To swallow the The programming that the television puts out and follow that road.
So indeed, that's what's happened.
That's why I termed my book Rebel Gene, because first of all, you still have the genetics, even if you're one of those people that are more administrative, that follow orders, that took the jab.
You can wake up your rebel gene at any point through meditation and linking with source and various other ways, activating your pineal gland, etc., etc., and the chakras and so on.
It's like this body has hidden mechanisms that turn it on or off.
Do you think that these people that are on the planet, and like you said, they've been manipulating things for a long time, many millennia, I'm sure.
Sure.
That some of these people that are, let's just say, for lack of a better term, and maybe even some of the Anunnaki, just a fancy name for a reptilian, or of that bloodline, of that bloodthirsty, is that why there's humans that are bloodthirsty?
Yeah, reptilian DNA. But it's not only the Anunnaki.
The reptilians themselves, straight out reptilians, have been invading our planet and basically impregnating women.
The Gray Human Hybrid Program is another such program that is involved in that.
I mean...
A lot of people are not aware of these books, but the Ashana Dean Voyager books that I have on the front page of Camelot, and I've interviewed her.
I did a six-hour interview with her, and I've read the books.
I've also traveled with her and her group in India and had my own connection with what she calls the guardian races.
So...
She would be talking to the group, and I would be getting downloads.
I get downloads now all the time, but I've always had a psychic connection to source, things like that, ever since I was a kid.
I was abducted when I was young, and so on.
What I would say is that the fact is that we have been invaded.
If you look at the history that she lays out, and this is not something you could just make up.
And it actually doesn't even, the Bible doesn't even go close to it.
Okay?
So...
We're really talking about a war of worlds off-planet that actually comes into this planet.
Okay, back in the day of the early days of Camelot, Clifford Stone said we were basically being visited at that time by what he was allowed to say, which was 57 different races.
Now, of course, it's much more, but I would even say back then that was being very conservative.
So it's just understanding that The nature of what does it mean to be human?
It's human is man of many colors.
So that accounts for all the different races out there, but it accounts for more than that.
So you can think of a color as being a, just a, it's kind of like if music, it would be a certain key, right?
On the piano board.
But there are lots of keys and there are lots of variations on the colors, right?
Yeah, lots of frequencies, lots of differences.
Exactly.
So we're talking about races that are combinations of different genetics because they have been interfered with along our trajectory, and that goes for the whole planet.
The more recent, or the most recent, Was and is the gray human hybrid program that operated, from what I understand, mainly in the United States and South America, but very concentrated in South America after a certain point because they made a deal with the grays to go down south and to do less abductions, although I think they still are abducting people even today.
It's a massive story.
We are hybrids.
We are not just one race.
We are humanoid in the way we look, but so are a lot of these other races coming from all...
So Carrie...
You know, you have this abduction, so I know that Brian has had an experience as well.
So would you too mind having a little bit of dialogue about that?
I wasn't sure if it was going to come up.
Do you think it would be like a certain bloodline maybe that you have a certain ET DNA that you would be selected to have those experiences as an example?
Well, again, this is my point of view, is that everyone, people, even people that don't think they've been abducted, you could call it being having contact, okay?
So you're having contact with beings that, for some reason, respond to your genetics, okay?
And that's how, it's kind of a pathway in.
So, but they can wipe your brain.
And so a lot of people...
Getting down to those kinds of memories and such is not easy, and it requires a certain openness.
Now, some people tend to remember things much better than others.
I have one person I've interviewed back in the day, the earlier days of Camelot, who had a fair amount of ET interaction, Miriam Delicato, and she remembered Very clearly and saw the beings.
Myself, I have these sort of bizarre memories and little flashes that have told me, you know, and then I've learned more as time has gone on.
But I always saw, you know, I saw light beings.
And so I see the shadows.
I also see so-called ghosts, okay, when I was young and things like that.
So...
Again, it has to do with, you know, how many blockages really you come in with.
And so getting rid of all that.
This is just my point of view that everyone has had ET interaction.
Now, whether they had what is called like a classic abduction type scenario where a certain race with a nefarious idea in mind who wanted to Sort of tweak your genetics or have some impact on your genetics.
You know, that can be like different.
It's one thing, because for example, I talk about this story where right before, this is like a year or two before I got involved in Camelot, I went to sleep.
I had a whole night of discussions with a little old man, a little bald old man who sat by the side of my bed and I didn't have a chair in real life next to my bed, but nonetheless sat by the side of my bed and talked to me all night.
And then I actually remembered to ask him where he was from, and he said Andromeda.
Then a few years later, I'm working at Jet Propulsion Lab.
I'm studying...
Defending Sacred Ground by Alex Collier.
And he's describing this little old Andromedan man that he dealt with.
Forget his name.
But the description was very similar to the little guy that I had met with.
So he didn't abduct me.
He just met with me.
So it kind of depends on what your experience is.
But I also know I have been abducted.
Did you have missing times in those instances?
And we won't go into mine.
We can talk about it another time.
But mine specifically had missing time.
Evident is what clued me in and then started my research trail and then certain memories.
Although I had a benevolent feeling, I still have a benevolent feeling.
So if anything, you know, somebody else who sort of looked at it thought maybe it was some kind of upgrade.
And some people hypothesize, In our dreams, like we go out more than we think were used in the secret space program or something and we don't understand.
Yeah, they call it 20 years and back and all that.
That's right.
Well, I know that for one thing, Miriam did have missing time.
I think I have had missing time.
In fact, not that long ago.
Yeah.
I have to say that there was an unusual experience.
Now, maybe it was just an illusion or whatever, but...
Me and my former partner, Neil, who's helped out Camelot for years in the last, I don't know, seven years or so.
He, basically, we were driving across the desert on the way to, I think it was Sedona or somewhere like that.
And I live in California.
And All of a sudden, you know, we're just driving and the music is playing and I just, I don't know, I kind of went in and out of consciousness and then I looked at where we were and I was saying, you know, what happened to this town?
And it's a town that's on the map.
That it seemed that we passed the town, but there wasn't enough time to have done it, but it all compressed, and suddenly we were in another area.
So it seemed that we might have had missing time.
So I think you can have missing time, and maybe even other times, you know, in life.
In other words, Even scientists say that we sort of blink in and blink out in a certain, I don't know if you've heard that, but in consciousness, in terms of being here, here, okay?
Yes.
And then there's a time when you, and it's done in a fraction of a second or even less, and you're going, so you're not here, you're actually elsewhere.
And it is possible sometimes to catch yourself In that other place.
And I've done that, where I'm here and then I'm sort of bilocating.
I kind of relate to it like bilocating.
So I bilocate.
Okay, I see myself somewhere else.
Then I come back into this moment in this body and so and so.
So it's kind of a, it's a fallacy to think that we're always here.
And there's also, because we have simultaneous incarnations in bodies in different times and because time and space are one and you know this gets into the physics and now most physicists will tell you time and space are one but when you start talking about things like signal non-locality as a result of that you know these things and what I just talked about meaning yeah they say we blink in and out but when I say I remember that I was somewhere else
they probably you know wouldn't like talking about that So there's a lot of blocks in conventional science towards what I'm talking about.
But nonetheless, I have my own evidence, my own research I've done in my own life, that sort of thing.
And I'm totally aware of that.
And it gives me information sometimes when I do that as well.
So I guess in answer to your question, you know, missing time.
Missing time is a very big part of it.
But again, because our brains are configured, and that may even be a certain block that's getting removed now because we're moving from 3D to 4D on the planet in general.
So our perception of time is changing, but ultimately it used to be totally linear.
So this thing, then that thing, and that thing happens, right?
In that kind of linear fashion.
But in reality, and even the Hopi and various indigenous races have always known this, that all time is simultaneous.
So that it appears to be, because of the way our brain organizes it, that it's happening in a linear fashion.
It's actually not.
So it's a whole different thing.
It's a circle.
They see, you know, the Native Americans will say time and space are a circle.
And in essence, they are.
It is a kind of a circle.
Sorry for interrupting you, Brian.
Does that tie into the wormholes and the portals that you speak to often?
Sure.
And what people don't realize is that, in a sense, a human themselves are a portal.
So we have the ability to create portals, to go through portals, depending on our frequency and the frequency of the portal, and create portals and wormholes and then use them to go elsewhere.
Groups of us, when I was traveling in India with Ashina Dean, that's one of the reasons we were there, according to her directive from this group of what are called the guardian races.
They wanted us to go to India and to set up some various portals because some of the portals that were there throughout time had been either taken over by the dark side or shut down.
So we were there to open portals and I had an amazing experience during one of those, at least one of those kind of time when we were creating a portal.
Up on this mountain top where I literally was standing there doing like this meditation with a group and I left my body while I was still wide awake and went somewhere and then I came back fully conscious.
And I was standing up at the time.
I wasn't even sitting down.
So, you know, this, yes.
So we don't really understand because there's so many blocks out there in terms of the schooling and the mind control and all of that, that it permeates our everyday life.
To keep us from remembering who we are, where we come from, and all of the multidimensionality That is part of this vehicle.
So it's not strange.
It's not some kind of mental problem.
I mean, you can imagine how many people have been put into mental asylums Because they perceive alternate realities.
I mean, that's typical.
And a tragedy.
An incredible tragedy.
So, again, why?
Because what is going on on this planet is sort of a prison planet type of environment that we have chosen to come to to do this thing we call awakening within.
But it's kind of like a challenge, okay?
So...
You come into this reality and you can awaken quickly or you can awaken like that or you can take many, many years and it's really your choice in a certain sense.
You know, I didn't recognize my awakenings younger.
I had all kinds of different paranormal and different experiences.
And this one that we just talked about, and my asking you about missing time, is Classic Case.
I was with my wife and we got out, looked up at a cluster of lights flying in the sky, and then woke up, came to, however you want to put it, down the highway driving.
And it was hours difference.
And then because of the time of weather, I know we wouldn't have stood out there that long.
And it's just a whole gap in how we got from there to there and driving.
You know, one of those things.
Classic case.
So weird.
You know, the other thing, do you think...
People, because I've seen many craft.
I had one to pull up.
I'm going to try and pull it up so I can show you this craft that I captured here in Canada.
But I've seen many things and you see these sightings going on more and more in the world now.
Do you think there's going to be a point?
I mean, you hear about Project Bluebeam, you know, they're going to try and fake something and scare the heck out of everybody.
But, you know, in my heart, I know that we've never been alone, just maybe because we're a warlike species there.
They don't want to make too much contact or...
There's certain reasons.
See, again, I consider that programming.
So we are not a warlike species.
That's complete nonsense.
They are, however, the ones that are pushing that storyline.
So they have basically, in a certain sense, they've told us what we are.
And they do that all the time.
And how stupid we are and all this and that.
It's wrong.
I mean, even the IQ test doesn't know how to test real IQ. And it doesn't know anything about EQ, which is emotional intelligence.
So, you know, in other words, when you're deprogramming yourself, you have to understand that If they have told you something throughout time, it's usually a lie.
Why?
Because, again, they want to keep you in a box.
And they have to work at it, by the way.
And I've used this example before, but, you know, it's kind of like if you were cattle, let's say, because they like to refer to humans as cattle.
So if you really were cattle, what they would do is they'd put you in a pen They'd lock the gate and they'd walk away and they would never have to come back because you were cattle.
You would just do what you're told and that's it.
But in fact, what they have to do is they have to keep, you know, dumbing us down over and over and over again.
So they have to keep, you know, ruining our food, ruining our water, ruining everything, you know, sending out these frequencies that are supposed to dull down our frequency.
Yes.
Even our cell phone, they had a choice.
Good frequency or bad?
They chose bad.
In other words, what they want is to keep our consciousness...
Down, locked in this body where it doesn't reside anywhere.
Anyway, this is not where we are.
We, who we are, is actually, in a sense, elsewhere.
We reside in source, if you just want a general term.
So we're here, there, and everywhere, just like God is here, there, and everywhere.
We're made in his image because we're here, there, and everywhere, not because we look like him.
Who cares how you look?
That would be the most surface level.
And who can say the faces of God, right?
So there's no limit there.
And again, even the Bible, sorry, I have issues with the Bible because of the limitations that are built into it purposely, Council of Nicaea, etc., etc., rewriting even things that might have been You know, semi-spiritual experiences.
Some of these people went through the apostles and Jesus and so on that then get written down and written down wrong.
And so not even Jesus would follow the Bible as far as I'm concerned.
And that goes for these other so-called holy books as well.
So we're in a very, you know, strange place.
A constantly changing paradigm here.
And luckily, for those of us that are sort of awake and aware at this time, a lot of humans at the same time are doing what we call waking up.
So that's helping because what happens is it's changing the resonance and the frequency of the planet as well.
So it's changing.
We are changing.
The planet's changing.
Our environment's changing.
All of this is actually something that the beings, the Khazarians, the ones that want to lock you in your box and sacrifice you and feed off your blood and your adrenaline, adrenochrome, and so on like that.
And kill children, etc.
And they're feeding.
We are prey to them.
So they're preying on us.
And they don't want us to escape.
The real way we are escaping is through consciousness.
So in essence, they may want your body's And they may try to get your soul and lock your soul in, but that's even quite difficult, because can you lock God up?
Think of it.
And so this is what we're really talking about.
We're talking about a war for consciousness, and especially in this case, in this time...
When with the whole attack through the COVID thing and so on, what they really decided they wanted was your body.
So now they're trying to occupy our bodies.
They're trying to change the body, make it a cyborg.
The funny thing about the secret space program is that, and I write this in my book, what they want to create is a kind of superman.
Which is, again, going back to the Nazi thing, right?
But in reality, what we are is what are called angelic humans, the original human blueprint, if you will.
And this body-soul complex already creates all of the technology for us to do all the things that the cyborg can do.
It's just that we haven't, you know, those strands of DNA or whatever you want to call it, haven't been activated.
They've been dumbed down, et cetera, et cetera.
So it's kind of like, again, you can go back to it, like the Tin Man who thought he didn't have a heart, and then they gave him a heart, and then he thought, oh, he had a heart, and suddenly he had a heart.
But he had a heart before he got a heart.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yes.
So it's the same principle.
That was a very wise book, okay, Wizard of Oz.
So Anyway, if I have answered that question.
Oh, for sure.
Well, I wanted to speak to Carrie because I know you are on so many platforms sharing, like, you have such a great vastness to your knowledge.
Plus, you know, you shared you had this kundalini experience and all these, you know...
For someone to leave their body and still be there like that was all things happening at once simultaneously.
You know, most people don't have that experience.
So there's people that you've actually spoken to that say, you know, a certain percentage of people have to get conscious before, you know, we're going to have this great awakening.
And, you know, where do you see us going?
And are we going to have to wait for the ones that we, like Brian and I are, you know, sometimes hitting our head up against the wall going like, these people are not going to change.
And, you know, we're patiently deep breathing through this time, because we've been ready for, you know, we're awake.
So do you have any solutions?
Like what do you see?
Because I know you as well, when I hear you on these different platforms, they're not quite hearing what you're saying.
Well, yes, sometimes that's true.
And, you know, I get a lot of emails from people, so I know that, and my audience is growing, so I know that someone's listening and someone's getting it to some degree, whatever degree they're getting and so on.
But I do understand the frustration, and I often think about that.
I think about, well, in a certain sense, We had to have come in knowing that, for example, we were going to be aware before a lot of our sort of sisters and brothers, if you want to call it that.
So what does that mean?
That means on a spiritual sense, if you're looking at a sort of spiritual way of going through the world, then what we have to do is play the role of, you The parent of these others.
So rather than hate them, What it would behoove us to do is to actually, you know, be more Christ-like and love them in spite of their blindness, okay?
So, in a sense, we're leading the blind and we are not blind.
It makes our lives very strange because, in a sense, we live in two worlds, okay?
I often feel this.
So, I live in one world in which the things I talk about are so normal and I go into this other world Even, like, coming onto a show like this.
And then people say to me, oh, it's so strange what you say, or it's so amazing what you say, or whatever.
And I'm always thinking, like, it's so obvious.
I'm not seeing anything special, you know?
And I even started, you know, was thinking, like...
I've always been interviewed over the years, but it's escalated.
Now my work has escalated also because I sort of changed my tactic.
Now I make my own videos where I'm doing nothing by talking and that sort of thing.
But I got to that stage realizing that I had to speak up, not just as a journalist interviewing people where they were speaking, The truths that I wanted to bring out in them, too, because that's part of the thing.
See, if you're opposite a person who's talking to you and the person has knowledge, then you rise to the occasion.
And I find that with people all the time.
I find that, you know, I can be talking to an audience that someone could have walked in and out of that room and said, oh, what a stupid bunch of people.
And I can walk in and they will rise to the occasion.
It's what we do.
We resonate.
It's a resonance that we get.
And so the heart and the mind will join and there will be a resonance and it will fill the room.
And then all of the people listening will also start resonating, which is happening right now in the virtual world, right?
Probably why we had so many interferences at the beginning here.
So what they want to do is they want to stop that.
They don't want that.
That's why social distancing was a major part of their little package to lock people down.
It wasn't good enough to just try to lock you down in your house and limit your travel.
They wanted you to sort of have not enough humans in one space because the more humans you have that resonate together like You know, at a rock concert or whatever it happens to be, we change the world around us by just the vibes and what we think and change.
It goes out into the world around us.
We raise the frequency.
And so I think I might have forgotten your original question, but I think it's really important that understanding that no, we're not limited, okay, the way they were telling you that you're limited.
No, we're not warlike, okay?
That is actually part of The nature of the reptilian race.
And they are that way, by the way, because it appears they're run by an AI behind the scenes and maybe a negative AI. And that gets into a whole discussion, but I don't know if you want to go there.
So...
Our various races that are dependent on us in a sort of pecking order as prey, but they don't need to stay in that headspace.
It's the same thing that...
This is what I say, and I think this is very important to realize.
Right now, we've got the White Hats, okay?
And they are sort of our front assault group who are trying to take down this paradigm...
And doing things that are kind of military.
In other words, supposedly, indictments.
There's something like 30,000 indictments or whatever it happens to be, but they're all hidden.
But behind the scenes, they're taking people into Guantanamo Bay.
They're arresting them, giving them military tribunals.
If this is happening, let's just say, for this purpose of this discussion, let's say it is, then what I would say is, First of all, you're not going to solve the problem that way, okay?
So you're not going to take a few low-hanging fruit.
And when you're talking about billions of people, okay, you can't get billions of people into those courtrooms, all right?
It's never going to happen.
So what you have to understand is that we need a change of consciousness among those that are preying on us.
So It's kind of funny, but in a certain way, we have to be better than them.
We have to be, you know, more awake, more aware, more sort of in the teacher-student paradigm, you know, in the teacher role, in order to bring them up to our level and to change their frequency.
So I always talk to people, I say, you know, yes, COVID can come in and they can shoot you up with all the graphene and such.
And graphing has a consciousness.
And then it can link to the AI, which is the Borg, etc., and control you.
Or you could reverse that stream and you can control it.
That's always an option.
See, people think communication is one way.
It's not calm.
It's two.
It has to go both ways to be communication.
So that means that we can go, we can send our power out.
And meet whatever's coming in and either reject it or change it, you know, transmute it, right?
And then take it in, whatever we choose.
So I know these are fairly sophisticated concepts, but they're scientific as well in the true science, true sense of science.
Not the fake stuff that's out there that, you know, people have been...
Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.
And the point that you brought up, Carrie, too, about the social distancing.
In my research, you know, the heart reaches out six feet, hence why they specify six feet.
But six and 666, that's all their favorite number anyway, so they like to mess with us.
You know, that by itself, we...
Like you said, people gathering of like mind, this has been, they're terrified of that, and especially people who, and you've Been involved in the conferences, awake and aware, and probably not as many because of the COVID thing and all the restrictions there.
I'm not sure if any are going on at the moment or announced, but these things, they did them on purpose because it is, like you were saying, about the frequency and about the resonance and human communication and, you know, our hearts reach out.
I was shut down.
A video I did on that was shut down because they didn't want that known.
Well, that's exactly what Carrie says.
Like, we are divine magnificence.
We are unlimited.
So one light being, one healer, whatever you want to call yourself that resonates with another high intention being, it is so magnified beyond.
It's an immeasurable versus one dark, one piece of darkness.
So, you know, I really appreciate what Carrie is saying because, you know, you and I have been on this journey together for a year as of yesterday.
And we met because there was such a...
We had this sense of knowing that we were going to be doing something together.
We weren't even planning on really doing anything like this.
It wasn't our life plan, that's for sure.
We were both called to do it and started doing it in different ways and then gravitated to each other.
The Creator pulled us together.
Yes, and what I'm really finding, Carrie, and I'm certain you are, is I have a manifestation journal and I know we're in a time of divine manifestation.
So we're speaking into the ever-evolving, ever-expanding universe what we want.
Who we want in our world.
And I really feel that we drew you into that manifestation.
And we were so thrilled to hear that you were so open to meeting with us today.
Well, you know, I don't turn down interviews, generally.
I mean, myself, of me.
So I feel that if somebody comes and wants to interview me, I don't see.
It's kind of like, you know, I know we call it an interview and people like to put it in these terms, but in reality, it's a conversation.
So I have no issue with not communicating with somebody.
Now, if they're rude or something like that, then I'll step away.
But Basically, if somebody wants to talk, I think, I mean, that's actually, I spent yesterday kind of talking about this, but there was this fake event that happened on Telegram, I don't know if you've heard about it, where Trump was supposed to be talking to We follow your telegram, Carrie.
All right.
To Putin on telegram.
And they set up this whole thing.
And first, then they canceled it.
They had it on Friday.
It was canceled.
Then they had it on Sunday.
And what they did is they took canned speeches of the two people.
And then they put them on, you know, one right after the other.
And it was like 25 minutes long.
It was just snippets of their canned speeches.
That's not what people signed up for, okay?
And I do think that it's interesting because what I'm noticing is that there are, we're kind of saying, false starts, promises made, promises even by the White Hats where things have not materialized.
Now, needless to say, the game, the war that we're in, which is a war, again, for consciousness, is...
Constantly shifting.
And it's very difficult to know what's going to fly, what's going to really happen, and what's not.
And there was an announcement that Joe Rogan was going to interview Trump.
And now he goes out on Twitter and social media to say, oh, no, I wasn't going to interview him.
In fact, I don't want to interview any political person, even though everything you do is political these days.
Right?
You know, whether you take COVID or you don't take COVID, whether you, you know, so-and-so.
So, you know, this is what we're finding.
We're finding a lot of misdirects, a lot of false starts, I call them, and also where...
One minute, one thing looks one way and then suddenly it morphs and it's a completely different thing.
So having also to do with a person that seems like a positive person, a good person in favor of humanity, and then they'll say some outrageous sentence that just kind of reveals who they really are, right?
Right.
I mean, just incredible.
I mean, this has been going on especially very concentrated in the last two years because of the whole so-called COVID scam that they basically were taking over our bodies and the ones that were given their permission to be taken over.
They would actually say things like, we think those other people should just be killed or discarded or whatever.
In other words, pure Nazi lingo, right?
And yet this person is purporting to be some loving, humanity-caring person.
So all in the same person.
Is that the AI that you alluded to that's doing that?
Is that the AI doing that that you alluded to?
Well, this is how humans are acting.
This is how they're behaving.
There's plain evidence of this.
And I even met people like that.
And so you can't say, well, it's the AI. Well, again, think about the AI in this way.
AI ends up to be a mirror.
of whatever race creates it.
So if the race that creates it has an intention and is also negatively, what we say is negatively oriented, at least towards humans, because we tend to look at other beings who are against us.
Like, let's say, okay, reptilians, what they want to do is they want to terraform the earth.
They want to get rid of oxygen.
They want to, um, and carbon.
So we're carbon based beings.
So that's where, that's where the whole global warming nonsense comes from.
What they really want is to terraform the earth into a completely different environment so that you, so that they can breathe and we can't.
Okay.
Um, so I guess what I'm saying is the AI is going to mirror all of that, especially if it is sort of created by those individuals or if it comes in from a race that has those intentions.
So, you know, how much a human mirrors the AI, you know, you have to kind of, does the cart come before the horse or the horse before the cart kind of thing?
Yes.
And I have to look at that.
Yeah, because I've also seen your interview where Kim Gauguin talked about possibly having removed a section of the AI or an AI we didn't understand.
You know, there was a lot of conjecture.
I'm not sure where to stand, not calling anybody out here.
It was different.
I have an open mind.
Right.
Raise more questions for me because I'm just finding they're causing so much confusion where you think, okay, yeah, this person's on this path.
And like you say, all of a sudden this conversation comes and it's like, whoa, you're way over here now.
I wonder if that's just we're seeing evidence of the different timelines crossing, you know, when we're seeing all these wild...
Because there's many people claiming, as you mentioned in that video as well, that they are here with benevolent connections and one thing.
And maybe they are.
And maybe they are.
Maybe they've been selected to disseminate drip, you know, information.
You know, not sure.
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, we're all doing that.
A lot of people, I was sort of talking about that, some would say, well, Kim Gauguin says she's part of an extraterrestrial group that are called the Earth Alliance or whatever they are, and they're a group of races.
Well, Ashina Dean says she's part of, you know, a speaker for Guardian races who are a group of races that are extraterrestrial.
And so, you know, so she's also doing that.
And so there's other people out there now, you know, you can kind of think of the various people who consider themselves spokespeople for a group of races.
I know that probably Simon Parks thinks he's speaking for the Mantids, you know.
I mean, as a representative or something.
You know, how are you going to prove differently?
You know, I can say that.
I can say, hey, I'm here on behalf of the lion beings and the Pleiadians and this one and that one.
And you can't prove me wrong, most likely.
So...
It's an easy out, but it actually, in a certain sense, if you have their genetics, if they have, you know, your genetics, then in a sense, you are a representative.
Just like, in a sense, we're representatives of source.
We're all speaking source.
From source, in a sense.
Because source is speaking through us.
So, and, you know, that gets into a whole discussion, you know.
But we're all just having our individual experience here.
Are some things source and some things not source?
Yeah.
No.
Everything is source.
So then you have to deal with it.
And it's kind of interesting trying to put yourself in that mindset.
Yeah.
So this means we deal and encompass the positive and the negative, the so-called we, you know, a lot of times when you see something as negative, you see it as impacting you in a way that limits you, okay, limitation, or can threaten your life, right?
So your life force may be, you know, threatened by that thing, or being, you know, that we're talking about.
Mm-hmm.
But a lot of these things that we consider to be threats are, I think, that we're going to find going forward is our illusions.
They are not the threats that they really appear to be.
And But I think, again, wakening people up, like I say, it's an incredible injustice not to tell your children that they could be prey for some of these humans that have this proclivity, right?
And have them going into schools.
I mean, look at these horrible people that are running schools these days that want to mask your children.
I mean, that seems like a crime against humanity to me.
It is.
A very high level.
Because you're limiting their creativity.
You're limiting their ability to communicate.
You're limiting their ability to breathe.
And to get oxygen to the brain so that the brain cells can grow.
I mean, it's just endless.
And these people are completely programmed.
That's it.
They are.
And it is very difficult not to hate them.
But we can't kill them all.
This is the issue.
So I guess coming full circle to what I was talking about is that Going forward in the future as humanity, we have to understand what we are, what this sort of mixture, this melting pot of races all on one planet, how to live with each other, and how to deal with the ones that have these proclivities.
Because you may be killing this one or that one, but their children are going to mirror the parent, and they'll grow up, and they'll become...
Predators.
Yeah, and we need to, like you said, we can't get rid of them also.
It's about, you know, looking for different solutions moving forward and recognizing, as you said, who we are, Darlene.
It's just like being on a spaceship, you know, you just, you know.
Maybe we are.
Well, we are.
I mean, that's one of the things I say in my book.
If Earth was your spaceship, you know, how would you behave?
And so we're here on a place that, in theory, until you leave the body, you're not going to be able to get out of.
So then what do you do?
You can't throw them all in prison.
You can't kill them all.
You can't, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
You can make laws.
You can also try to, you know, change their frequency and get them to understand.
You know, I mean, there have been movies about this, about vampires trying to, you know, do other things rather than feed on their sort of...
Yeah, by their free will.
I'm going to share this.
I wanted you to see this here, Carrie, and this was right here.
Let's turn this down, but this ball of light caught my attention midday, and then we're going to see it morph into our reality here.
Doesn't that look interesting?
Oh, it just changed.
And then it goes on across the sky and stays that color.
It doesn't get a lot closer, but very interesting.
Right.
Well, that would be called a UFO. Yeah.
So, yeah.
It's just coming interdimensionally into the dimension, finally getting into this dimension and then Sort of taking form in a little more clarity, and then probably disappearing out of here as well.
So...
It did disappear in a similar way, and because we were talking different things in frequency, because, you know, somebody who looked at that, that, you know, maybe has some knowledge, kind of indicated it's one group or another, and specifically was said they thought it was Palladian.
Now how they knew?
I don't know, but very interesting feedback.
Right.
So, you know, I just, I kind of have been saying to people to keep an open mind to not, you know, one of the sayings I have is, you know, why limit the mind of God?
It's important to understand that if you just decide to discount something out of hand, what you're really doing is You're locking down your brain in that area, okay?
And then if new information comes out and actually turns that thing into going from, you know, false or speculation into truth, what we call truth, manifestation, if you will, then you're going to be a fool.
So is it, you know, there are a lot of fools out there right now.
There are a lot of people who have closed minds who are saying this doesn't exist or that doesn't exist.
And a lot of people also like to, you know, name things and they think the name, you know, but a rose is a rose is a rose, whatever you call it.
So, you know, These are limitations as well.
So just saying that when you're talking to somebody, when you're faced with someone who is speaking with limitation, trying to limit your freedom or someone else's freedom, you know, I think everyone needs to just stop in their footsteps and say, why should I allow this person to limit my child's freedom, for example, you know?
Exactly.
Why would you do that?
Why would you want to stunt their growth?
Insanity.
It's insanity.
And so, yeah, we have to continue to have open minds.
We have to also demand that the people around us consider these other options.
And that's part of my issue at the moment with the White Hats.
They need to speak out more.
They need to share truths more.
Trump needs to not repeat the same things every time he speaks, but come out with the real truth.
Well, I know you have some incredible resources and people available to you, Carrie.
Like, you know, we were watching your interview there with Kim Gauguin the other day and she had shared some information and you said, well, I already have that.
So, you know, obviously...
You know, incredible people sharing intel with you.
But for yourself, like, I sense that you hear that and then you go deep within and then gather and create what you feel is going to become a part of that.
So where do you see things going?
Like, can you give us any sense of what, from what you know and your essence, where are we going?
What's going to happen?
Can you give us some insight?
Okay, well, you know, I have these dreams.
I think I've talked about it before.
You might have heard me.
And, you know, some are prophetic.
So I have to say that I have my own.
It's kind of like a library in my head where I've had dreams.
I mean, talking going back, you know, I don't know, 20, 40, even years, right?
And so I file it away, but I try to remember it.
And in some cases, I write them down.
And It's kind of amazing.
So I have seen, they're like film strips, so little film strips, and then I'll see it happen in front of me.
And so it's happened enough in my life to where now if I have a dream, I will file it away, but I'll also take it seriously, okay?
And so...
When I look in the future, I am seeing some very positive aspects of the future.
I don't know if you know about this, but the last two years have been quite strange.
I think everyone would agree with that.
And there is also this thing, the Schumann resonance.
So sometimes it's actually been going way off the charts.
So during some of the Schumann resonances, when they're off the charts, I've had some even more amazing dreams than ever before.
And I can't classify them.
So I could say, well, they're this reality, or maybe they're not.
Maybe they're a future reality.
Maybe they're a very strong alternate positive reality.
So I don't want to make any assumptions here for the audience.
But I will say...
By and large, what I see is a positive future for humanity.
I don't actually, I know people are always talking about all these camps and all this and all of that.
Now, it's important to realize that.
Let's take this exact moment.
Okay, so you're here talking to me.
I'm in a nice little house and it's in a nice area.
You know, I have a little lake by me and so on and so forth.
So You know, my life is very fine right this minute.
Okay, but right this minute, someone's being abducted by some child molesting horrible thing.
You know, they're killing people.
People are dying in war in Ukraine.
On both sides, by the way.
Some people are losing their homes in Ukraine and having to go to another country altogether.
I mean, so reality, we call reality and say, is it going to be good or is it going to be bad?
Well, what is it for all these people, right?
We can't paint it in one way for everyone.
At the exact time and space.
We can say that there are some markers, some sort of large milestones that may, like this insane COVID thing, affect a huge swath of people.
If there was a world war, certainly it would affect a lot more people than it is currently.
And so on.
So, you know, these are things to consider.
And that's why any blanket statement of, well, yeah, it's all positive and, you know, we're going to ascend.
I mean, that's what people want to hear, right?
Yes, they do.
First of all, that's not how it happens.
And second of all, you know, what's...
Kind of like positive and you think is a sort of ascension-like and self-affirming or, you know, so and so forth or validating.
Like, kind of think back in your own life when you thought you had something really wonderful that happened, right?
And sometimes it turned into something really wonderful, right?
And sometimes it turned into actually a trap that you should never have fallen for in the first place.
It's kind of like falling in love with the wrong person, right?
So this is what I'm saying is like, we can't just look at a sliver of reality and say, good, you know, it's all good.
Um, now some people will say living in California where I live, you know, it's sunny and beautiful and it's all paradise, right?
But actually sometimes when you're miserable and you live in New York City and it's all dark and I have lived in New York City and, you know, crowded and, you know, smog filled and et cetera, et cetera.
And you might do the best art you have ever done.
But when you're in California, all you want to do is sort of, you know, go lay on the beach and have a nice time.
So you're not producing any beautiful art or whatever it is.
So it's kind of important to, again, just showing you how looking at reality and saying these prognostic statements is difficult.
And it's difficult to categorize it because I have to say personally, Some of the best things that ever happened to me were things that didn't happen, that I wanted to happen.
You know what I'm saying?
That were blessings, in essence, because they didn't happen.
Because I thought I wanted them, but actually, they weren't the best thing for me.
And then the opposite.
And so, you know, I'm not trying to be Pollyanna here, but nonetheless, I think it's just important to realize, what are you asking when you want to know What does the future hold?
In essence, it is your future, but it does interact with the rest of the world.
You do create it as you go.
And I often come across people who are diagramming out a negative future because that is all they can see.
And I think that's really a bad thing to do.
I think that keeping an open mind, realizing the incredible gifts we have around us at any given moment on the planet, And I've traveled all over the planet.
So I can say there's beauty everywhere.
There's fabulous people everywhere.
There are beautiful children in every walk of life, in every type of race out there, and so on and so forth.
And humans create art all the time.
So when I look at all of that, I think humans are amazing.
And I don't think they're warlike, by the way.
I think that is a learned behavior based on, look, if you're prey and you never protect yourself, you're going to be gone.
That's the end of it.
So then someone wants to call you warlike because you're protecting yourself and your family.
That's what Putin, in a sense, is doing.
They're calling him warlike.
That's right.
But for year after year, in fact, for eight years, he and Russia has been attacked by By the Nazis in Ukraine, by the neo-Nazi group that's linked to Kazarian and the New World Order, etc., etc.
And there was a war there.
The Dunbar region of Ukraine Wanted to join Russia.
They have Russian descent, and they have been fighting a battle because they wanted to join Russia.
Well, why can't Ukrainians just let them go do that?
What's, you know, like, why stop them?
It's insane.
So, you know, you can look at these things a lot of different ways.
Absolutely.
And I don't think we're a warlike race.
I mean, it's sort of, yes, like you said, the programming that's been put out there and the easy scapegoat to use to say it's all us and nothing else.
I mean, what a fabulous conversation, Kerry, and we could go around and around and around and I'd love to another time.
But any last words, Darlene?
Well, I'd love to have us reconnect, Carrie, because seriously, I'm wanting to speak more, but we all have lives here, and I know you probably have other conversations that you're going to be delving into, but it's been such an honor to have this experience with you, because...
You know, we're manifesting and I really appreciate your open heart and your essence.
Like Brian and I are really thrilled to be here with you in this moment, in all moments.
Well, and ask you questions directly and, you know, a little insight to Intel and you've been doing this a long time.
And like you said, conversations.
Conversations are where everything starts and it's always good to talk to people and people who are out there spreading the truth and the information.
Yes, thank you for all your work, Carrie, really.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for your work, and I'm very happy to meet you and know of you, and yes, I'm totally willing to do another interview sometime, and maybe I can interview both of you at some point.
That would be fantastic.
So everybody, I mean, here we are broadcasting live on Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, and at the Facebook.
And what a great conversation.
Once again, Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot.
I'm Brian Conde.
And I'm Darlene Andi.
And this is the Mad Watcher TV. And we're out.
All right.
Thank you.
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