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Feb. 5, 2021 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY MICHAEL JACO

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	Hello, everyone.
	It's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets, and I'm extremely excited to be joined by Carrie Cassidy today.
	A lot of you will not know Carrie Cassidy.
	I'm going to let her introduce herself, but for me, it's a great honor.
	I was just recently on her show and had a great time.
	I'm like one of those guys that I need to make a t-shirt line that I survived Carrie Cassidy's show, you know, because she is like, she goes after you.
	If you don't have your You know what together.
	She's going to expose you.
	So I think we had an awesome show.
	Had a great time with her.
	And I'm so honored to have you on, Carrie.
	You want to talk a little bit about yourself?
	Oh, hi, Michael.
	Yeah, sure.
	It was great having you on my show.
	And sorry if I gave you a hard time.
	I didn't want to give you a hard time.
	But there's always, you know, I have questions.
	I can't help it.
	You know, I'm a journalist and I... When I hear information, I'm not like your normal interviewer.
	I'm not just sitting there passively.
	I'm not a passive interviewer.
	I'm really engaged and I want to delve into the subjects I'm hearing about and learn more.
	And I think my audience appreciates that.
	I know some audience members don't, but that's their issue and they can go elsewhere if they don't like it.
	That's my style.
	I've actually honed this style for the last 16 years doing what I do, which is I specialize in above top secret whistleblower testimony about the secret space program.
	But I delve now into every area of life.
	Actually, you know, cures for cancer, the whole COVID thing, of course, I've investigated a ton.
	You name it, political situation, Trump and QAnon, you know, everything that's going on, I am kind of on it.
	And I'm investigating and looking for information.
	I'm getting information.
	And so my website has tons and tons of information.
	And I write, a lot of people don't know, I write articles on top of two broadcasts.
	So I've got thousands of articles and 16 years of broadcast, which is like Works out to be about a thousand YouTube videos.
	And then I did five years of radio as well.
	Some of those radio shows have disappeared.
	They were deleted off our server by some unknown individual.
	We managed to get a lot of them back from people that recorded my show while it was happening and things.
	But there's still a lot missing.
	So that's, I guess...
	A short introduction to my work.
	That's beautiful.
	Thank you very much.
	Now, I've read your book, Rebel Gene, Secret Space and the Future of Humanity.
	I think you've summed up your work in that category exceptionally well.
	You know, when I first saw the title of Rebel Gene is like, is that her, does she have like a name, a middle name, Gene or something?
	But no, there's a lot more to it than that.
	And you want to talk a little bit about that book?
	We can focus on that quite a bit if you like.
	Oh, sure.
	Well, I'm very happy to talk about my book.
	I published it in February 14th, 2020.
	And then eventually the paperback came out as well.
	It's been, you know, five stars and four and a half, five stars on maintain that on Amazon for the whole time.
	And that's actually, you know, really wonderful.
	Even with the trolls that are out there and I have lots of trolls in case you don't know.
	They show up in my chat room and they're always in and around things I do for some reason.
	It's just the it's either the luck of the draw or the fact that I trigger You know, when you deal with controversial subjects, it tends to trigger people, and sometimes they take offense, they can't handle it, and they lash out.
	So we have a lot of that going on.
	It's never stopped, actually, since the beginning of Project Camelot.
	So my book is all about the Secret Space Program.
	In essence, it took me 16 years, if you want to say, to write it, although the actual writing maybe was condensed to one or two years max.
	And even that's a long time because I had so much to deal with that gelling it all down took quite an effort and trying to I wanted it to be like a handbook for people that wanted to get up to speed without having to read tons of books or see a zillion videos.
	And I wanted them to be able to reference my videos.
	And so if they read the book and then watch my videos, and then they might be encouraged to watch more videos.
	Because obviously, if I have a thousand videos, it's not always easy to get people to To go back in my history and watch, and yet they're all so crucial.
	We really hit the ground running in the early days.
	I had a partner, Bill Ryan.
	As many people know, we split after three years.
	But we did intense work, and we traveled the world with the camera.
	Back in those days, I actually had a small inheritance, and we were able to use that to travel.
	And do interviews.
	Then YouTube did come of age.
	So we're going back 16 years.
	And YouTube was not quite up to speed with live broadcasts and that sort of thing that everyone does now.
	So I had to, you know, we had to do the in-person interview.
	And a lot of our whistleblowers ended up to be spread out around the world.
	So we did it low budget.
	You know, we stayed in cheap hotels and...
	And actually traveled in Bill's car, believe it or not, around Europe as it happened.
	Of course, we had to fly to places that weren't in Europe.
	And so it worked out very well.
	And we became extremely popular very, very fast.
	And so in the first year, we had, I don't know, 100 or more videos.
	And YouTube wiped our whole channel off.
	The net.
	And then we had to put it back up.
	So we lost all that first year of how they chalk up the views and all that stuff.
	But after that, we did maintain.
	And now my channel has been on YouTube for the past 15 years.
	And I have actually two channels.
	One of the channels is a backup channel.
	And every once in a while...
	Especially now.
	I get censored by YouTube, and so when I'm censored by my main channel, then I have to go over to my substitute channel.
	So that's where some people may be a little confused by the fact that I have two channels.
	The second channel does not have that many videos on it.
	You actually have a membership over there too, right?
	Yeah, you can join both channels, you know, and be notified if I launch a video on either one.
	And so, but it's been actually really good this year because I have been censored a lot.
	And I'm always walking like a tightrope of having my channel deleted.
	But because I've been, I was a YouTube, what they call a YouTube director in the early days.
	And That was an honor and I got to put up two hour videos when everyone else was doing 10 minute or 20 minute segments.
	So that made us stand out and be quite different than your average YouTube channel right in the early days.
	And then we just continued like that.
	It's been amazing.
	So people that, you know, have a playlist.
	So I have a playlist like, for example, for Super Soldiers, and I have a playlist for what we call Classic Camelot.
	And that goes back to the early days and goes forward from there with what I term, you know, Classic Camelot would be the sort of concentration of On secret space program, black projects, things of that nature, super soldiers, of course, and all that.
	Not so much the other things that I eventually branched into interviewing people that were less whistleblowers, just simply authors or in other walks of life, just testifying about Usually though, most of my guests have secrets or a mystery to reveal.
	That's kind of, you might say, the fulcrum of the work I do.
	Yeah, and I know you and Bill at one time had interviewed a gentleman that had gone into the London area, that one area.
	In London, London City, and he had basically told you guys some information about a long time ago that was going to happen now, and it's actually coming to fruition.
	There's a lot of people that have gone back and looked at that and shared.
	I remember when you guys did that.
	Oh, well, I guess you mean Henry Deacon.
	That was very early on Camelot.
	He came out under his name Arthur Neumann.
	I'm not sure if that's who you mean.
	But he's the one that said everything then that's happening now.
	And he did say that all of it would happen at once.
	So a lot of people don't realize that we are not even done with these things they're going to roll out.
	Absolutely.
	For example, the false alien invasion, the rolling out at the same time as the viruses, and other things that he listed on his list.
	And earth changes are also part of that.
	So some of these, you know, we think we've kind of come through the tunnel and we're into maybe things are going to get better and things are going to get easier, but...
	At least based on what he said, we haven't actually, you know, got even into the middle of this whole, I guess, reveal, if you will, of the revealing of the secrets and the dark side being exposed and the many things that are supposed to happen to humanity in the next, say, 10 years.
	Yeah, you are amazing as far as like, you know, the information that you have.
	You're like a treasure trove of disclosure right now.
	So a lot of people have come to you.
	Robert David Steele, I know he's like, he like, shoot bullets at you.
	Okay, answer this one, answer this one, answer this one.
	And you're like, handle him really well.
	I'm like, wow, that's pretty impressive.
	Because he has, you know, I've been around a lot of, you know, high speed officers like him, you know, that had been in the military and then worked in the CIA as case officers.
	I've done both of those as well.
	And they're really high speed.
	So it's wonderful to see someone like him, you know, come out and do really good interviews and know the right questions to ask and you handle his information And revealing information that he wants you to, unbelievably.
	Because I would think that he's just like in one little category, but he's like all over the map like I am.
	So it's lovely to see, you know, you handle that really well.
	Oh, well, thank you.
	Yeah, he's a challenge, all right.
	I mean, he, you know, because he likes to move fast.
	Oh, yeah.
	In my line of work, when you're an investigator, you have to...
	I do see big picture.
	I'm really big picture of that kind of person.
	But at the same time, it's important to cover the details.
	And so he doesn't necessarily want you to give him the details.
	At least he likes to do short interviews.
	That's just his preference.
	So you kind of have to jam a lot into a very short space.
	Yeah.
	But some people, you know, I mean, that works for people.
	And it's a nice kind of change from, say, a one or two hour discussion.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	So getting back to your book, I mean, all the information you have in your book is phenomenal.
	Just every single chapter is exquisitely revealing.
	So I'll just kind of like read off a few of them.
	The Rebel Gene, which we can talk about in a second, ETs and encounters.
	So what if there's a secret space program?
	And then the secret space program, secret projects, time travel.
	I mean, we could go down just any one of those and talk for, like you say, a couple hours.
	So let's start with Rebel Gene.
	You want to give us an idea of what your title of your book is about?
	So that's a play on words.
	You know, so it actually has a couple of references to it.
	And one of the references, the obvious and the main one, is that Enki and Enlil were said to have come to the planet Anunnaki and back in, I don't know if it's 12,000 years before Christ, whatever, you know, times, you know, everyone has different But bottom line, it's the Anunnaki coming to the planet.
	They were brothers.
	One went to Africa, and that was Enki, and one went to the Middle East, Enlil.
	And the story goes, and you can look into the Sumerian tablets and Zacharias Sitch and his translations.
	There's other people with their translations.
	But the bottom line is there's a story that they came into To earth and interfered with our genome and genetically re-engineered us.
	So I don't necessarily agree with some of the interpretations out there about, you know, they didn't create us, but they were a humanoid species, by the way, that were actually...
	Invaded by the reptilians and taken over way back in history.
	And so in their own history.
	So this is where people get a bit confused because they may still look humanoid, but there's also some hybrids that in the Anunnaki that look, you know, reptilian human hybrid types.
	And then there's the humans that have a high degree of reptilian DNA at this time, not unlike the humans that later were invaded by the reptilians and a similar thing happened to us.
	But nonetheless, so what happened was Enki was known to be, as the story goes, the more sort of permissive kind of individual.
	He decided, you know, he got involved with the Earth Women.
	So we are, in a sense, Anunnaki human hybrids, or the race that came forward after that.
	And in essence, he allowed them to have a great deal of freedom.
	But Enlil was much more repressive as a ruler, and he was based in the Middle East, as I say.
	And he basically, the humans that were Created, or not created, but you know, interfered with after him, sorry, were administrators.
	They were people that took orders.
	They were not, you know, independent thinkers.
	Do you think that the Anunnaki Planet X and all that kind of stuff, do you think there's a relationship there at all?
	Oh yeah, of course.
	Sorry, I mean, you know, Planet X is the Anunnaki Nibiru planet if you want to call, you know, if you want to go down that road.
	And Camelot has done a tremendous amount of Interviews and investigation on that subject as well.
	And I can talk about that.
	But just to finish the story.
	So the bottom line is two different kinds of groups of humans with genetics.
	And in one group of humans, the emphasis on being able to think for yourself and have a rebel gene.
	So that's where rebel gene comes from.
	As far as I'm concerned, all humans have been interfered with by the Anunnaki.
	At this point, we all carry the genetic stamp of that.
	But some of us have overcome or awakened the rebel gene.
	Some of us are born with a rebel gene, like myself.
	And it also harks back to Norma gene, to Marilyn Monroe, to being involved with the Kennedys for knowing secrets.
	And then blue jeans, because blue jeans became the stamp of rebellion back in the 60s, wearing blue jeans and all that.
	So for me, it has three different levels of meaning.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	So now, moving over to Planet X, I know a lot of people are like, you know, they ask me all the time.
	I try to predict, you know, and look at the information that's out there.
	Marshall Masters has come out with some stuff, and there's a lot of people that predict, you know, when this thing comes through and what kind of catastrophes it causes throughout the time.
	What's your thoughts on that?
	Okay, well, it's...
	It's such a long story.
	And the trouble is, is that we got in Camelot, even going back many, many years, we got so many different testimonies.
	I interviewed a number of times Andy Lloyd, who is a, well, he's a scientist, but he's also an investigator.
	And he began to write a book called The Dark Star.
	And he investigated the story for 10 years.
	And after the 10 years, he strangely started writing all about a fictional series that was about the return of the Anunnaki, and specifically Marduk, which is quite interesting.
	So what happens is, as a scientist, and then actually after he wrote his three books, I think one of the books he never finished, but I'm not sure about that.
	And then After that, he wrote another book and this was again about Planet X and kind of bringing things up to date.
	And I interviewed him on that book as well.
	So I have several interviews if you go to my website.
	On my website, you can find the interviews and also on my YouTube channel.
	All you do is search, go to the search box and put in the first or the last name.
	Usually that works best as far as searches go.
	You'd be surprised how easy it is to find all the...
	So basically, Planet X is, according to Andy, he then thought it was his planet...
	Let's see, it was called...
	God, I think it was called Planet 9 or something like that.
	That there was this planet that a few years ago, they were making a big deal about it, but it was coming...
	And it was found on the sort of outside, knew the outside of our solar system.
	Now, then it died out, all of that story.
	So I don't know kind of where that went.
	But it wasn't actually, you know, coming in towards us type of thing.
	So I'm not sure that it really was so-called Planet X. Then there's Nibiru, which Zacharias Sitchin, it starts with the Sumerian tablets and And the Sumerians and them showing a certain planet that had this elliptical orbit that would come in and change things periodically.
	And I think they differ on the number of years that it came in.
	So I think maybe 26, 500 is one number.
	There's another like 3,600.
	And there may even be some other, you know, Gauging the number of years it takes to do its rotation coming in and out of our solar system.
	So that's where all the controversy comes in because not only are there things like this NASA scientist who mysteriously died after publishing information on the return of what is in essence Nibiru.
	And I think his name was Harrington, if I have that right.
	It's been a long time since I've looked at this data.
	And then we went to Italy and interviewed Lucas Cantamberlo, who had met with this journalist called Cristofaro Barbato, who had interviewed a Vatican member of the SIS, the Secret Service of the Vatican, who had given him supposedly a videotape.
	Showing the planet.
	And there was a videotape kicking around the internet for a while with that and probably still out there.
	Whether it really was that or not, I don't know.
	But at any rate, what happened after that was that Cristofaro Barbato came forward as a journalist talking about the story Then he got fired.
	He never could get another job.
	It was a really horrendous story, the way they treated him.
	But at the same time, Lucas Scantamberlo, this other journalist investigator who had been in the northern part of Italy, Went down and met Barbato in person and interviewed him sort of in the early days after he found out this information about Planet X. And so then there became this whole dilemma about whether or not Cristofaro Barbato had given Lucas Scantamberlo secretly a copy of the videotape.
	And then we actually We went to interview, first of all, I wanted to interview Cristofaro Barbato, but he wouldn't speak to us because he was afraid.
	And he'd been fired from his job at that point and all this stuff went on.
	So instead, we were contacted by Lucas Gantamberlo, who he recommended to us.
	And so we went in person to Lucas' house in northern Italy.
	And we parked at the Milan airport.
	And we interviewed, so first we interviewed Luca.
	We drove to the Milan airport, parked our car and then flew to Norway, where we were scheduled to interview Leo Zagami.
	How funny.
	Awesome.
	Okay, so what happened was they broke into our car while we were in Norway looking for this supposed tape that they thought Luca had given to us.
	But of course, he didn't have a tape, at least as far as we knew.
	He did not have a tape and he didn't give us any tape.
	But of course, there's still a controversy about that.
	So that whole story died down other than we published our interview with Luca.
	um now all these years later most people don't even they don't even bother to you know watch our old interviews and and we have so much incredible stuff there you know and uh and and so that's one of the Leo Zagami's goes I'm gonna have him on my show soon and uh what so what did you get from Leo so I I'm Okay,
	well, Leo disclosed all about the Vatican and the reptilians under the Vatican, the Black Pope, all of that information.
	And Luca himself, I don't know what he says nowadays, but he was, at a certain point after our interview, And maybe starting to be taken over already by, in essence, what he believes to be, you know, Satan.
	So he really did have to get exercised, you know, at a certain point.
	And I hope that it worked.
	But the bottom line is that he revealed a great deal in our interview.
	So that interview is actually...
	You know, you might say priceless, because back in those days, we were interviewing people in a way, again, because my style.
	Nobody else did.
	So I would delve in with the person I would spend, you know, that they were front and center on the camera for two hours.
	You know, so you watch their facial expressions.
	You know, we have a dialogue.
	I ask them hard questions.
	And, you know, most of the people that I interact with During these interviews, I really love it.
	But afterwards, some people watching it don't like it.
	They don't like that I'm so kind of direct and if I see something challenging or hear something challenging, I'll actually pursue it.
	But excellent stuff.
	I mean, Leo Zagami, he does a great job.
	Cool.
	Yeah so uh just recently uh another remote viewer and I did look underneath the Vatican so uh the information that you're revealing is uh is way ahead of its time so we saw uh some very dark characters down but we saw some very high tech stuff down there as well yeah so you're aware of that as well well yes uh you know the uh the the um Alexandrian Library.
	They took all that stuff and took it to the Vatican.
	That's what happened.
	That's what's happening.
	Actually, just recently, in this interview that was done with this guy who's a financial guy and Jim Willey.
	I've talked about it on a couple of interviews, but it was just done by Jean-Claude.
	Jim Willey Is not a person who would normally have this kind of information, but apparently he's got really great sources.
	And he has been in the public eye, I think, as a financial pundit for, you know, a very many years.
	So he's actually more or less mainstream.
	So, but on Jean-Claude's show, he was actually revealing a lot of what's going on with the Trump team, a lot of And one of the things he did talk about, he even said, as I recall, I believe that he said that,
	you know, he mentions the fact that under the Vatican, you know, that they had plundered, that the White Hats with Trump, the military, had gone in recently and taken, and he says in his, in the interview, you can listen to it, I highly recommend it.
	I've linked it on my Telegram channel.
	But at any rate, he says that first he thought it was something like 80 flights of stuff, and he found out it was something like 650 plane loads of stuff taken out from under the Vatican.
	So this is wild.
	I mean, people don't realize the battle that is being waged by Trump and his team, it's a worldwide battle.
	They're having to go to other countries to deal with the rulers of other countries, to deal with the underground bases and rescue the children, you know, captured and being used for adrenochrome as slaves and also genetically engineered as super soldiers and precogs, you name it.
	So all of that is Is what's really going on behind the scenes.
	And there are very few people able to...
	You know, the White House, the White House is closed down.
	I believe they're going under there and finding lots of bodies.
	And they have body bags that I've heard are being filled.
	And we see a lot of structures that are around the White House, a lot of vehicles around the White House.
	And the White House is like dark at night.
	So there's, you know, Gene Decode and all kinds of other people talk about how You know, they're right now really going after some stuff underneath the Washington Sea.
	And I felt that when I was there on the 6th of January, that it was going to be very dark.
	Oh, right.
	You went the 6th of January.
	Right.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And that was quite a show.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's always been, you know, Washington DC, of course, is laid out as a satanic city.
	The White House, I believe, is dark because it is dark.
	But aside from the fact that it's dark, it's, you know, it's walled off.
	I don't, you know, Biden is not there.
	What's going to happen to Washington DC is up in the air at the moment.
	I'm not sure where they're going to go with the whole situation because Like I say, the city is one of the satanic Luciferian outposts, if you will, as well as, of course, Vatican City and the City of London.
	So those three cities form a triangle of their endeavors and crucial city-states that are independent of the countries in which they exist.
	So that's Italy, UK, and US. I was in the UK Uh, actually at the gate, what's called the gate, um, Ludd, let's see, Ludd, Ludd something, gate, can't, um, remember the exact name.
	Anyway, it's at St.
	Paul's Cathedral and that's where the, the beginning of London from going back in all this, you know, this, the years.
	And, uh, I was aware of a, of a, a dark, uh, sort of, um, Magic operation that they were involved in.
	And it's very weird that I was sent there to be in that location.
	We're in an Airbnb that just happened to be located there.
	That was just recently when you were out there, right?
	Yeah, this is over Christmas when right around the time when A lot was going on with Trump and a lot of focus was on Washington and the Trump team and all of that.
	So what they were doing in this sort of magic act was creating the triangle of power always exists.
	So they can use that to do magic acts and to draw energy into one of the angles of the triangle, right?
	From the others.
	So what they did is they pulled it towards the Vatican where they're...
	You know, they're mainly based, so that's one of the things that goes on.
	We've got Ole Damogard on, and he said from his research, he believes within the very near future that there's going to be some kind of false flag at the Vatican.
	So that kind of fits what you're saying.
	So we're kind of putting these pieces together as researchers.
	That's fascinating.
	So back to your book.
	Man, we could just go all over the place, couldn't we?
	Yeah.
	I love you.
	Well, it's great that you're a remote viewer, and you seem quite knowledgeable about everything.
	I know I was kind of...
	With the interview with you, it's only like the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure, of what you know.
	And I'd be glad to have you back on and delve in deeper, so to speak.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because I'm sure there's a lot more we could look Look into on your side.
	So, okay, so my book.
	Yeah, secret space programs.
	So it's not secret anymore.
	There's so many of us out there now that are waking up to this.
	There's millions of us that have been involved in the secret space program, as we're finding out.
	You know, most of us have been put to sleep, you know, consciousness-wise, but there's many of us who are waking up that There's actually a parallel reality for many of us that's going on still in the secret space program.
	That's kind of what I feel.
	So what is your research on this?
	This is going to be fun.
	Oh, well, I mean...
	As you know, if you read my book, it just, it goes, there's so much to it.
	Time travel, by the way, is one of the main sort of pillars, if you will, of the secret space program.
	So it all, in a certain sense, it all revolves around that.
	And a lot of people misunderstand even the words time travel and what that entails.
	But bottom line, it does entail time.
	Going outside the solar system, going into other dimensions, going interdimensional, and being able to jump, you know, like you see in Star Trek, for example, and go interdimensional.
	So this kind of thing is to go through wormholes and vortexes and stargates that are established here on Earth, you know, and manned and guarded.
	By the way, by humans, by our military, in fact.
	And as it happens, this secret space program is run by the Americans, jointly, though, with the British.
	And the Russians.
	A lot of people don't kind of realize that.
	As well as, you know, the other sort of usual suspects are involved, which is places like Germany and France and Italy and so on.
	And Norway and Australia is instrumental.
	The Five Eyes, as they say.
	Although Canada recently, I think, has kind of been...
	I don't know, kicked out or not let into a lot of what's really going on anymore because they haven't been on side, as the British saying goes, quite as much.
	So there's an issue right now in the secret space program with Canada.
	And where Canada's allegiance lies.
	And interestingly enough, that came up in the election fraud with the Dominion servers that were based in Canada, but also, according to the Patrick Byrne articles that he wrote, there's four of them.
	I just published them on my Telegram and also on my channel, on my website, and did commentary on all four chapters, if you're interested.
	So I delved into that and I found it really quite fascinating.
	And I'm going to do some more research around Patrick Byrne and this financial thing he's involved in as well.
	But at any rate, so I forget what I was kind of saying there, but at any rate.
	It involves...
	There's lots of different...
	I didn't know there were so many.
	So that's fascinating.
	I mean, your scope is impressive.
	But to be expected with how long you've been at this research and the people that you're involved with.
	So the Secret Space Program, I know there's a lot of people that have been coming out over the last several years.
	You, David Wilcock, and we got, you know, some of the latest and greatest, Randy Kramer and some other people that Randy Kramer should be on my show here pretty soon.
	So there's an amazing amount of people that are really coming forward.
	And that's what opened it up for me.
	People would approach me and go, you know, you're in a secret space program?
	And at first I was like, you know, no, but part of me is like, yeah, you know?
	And then over time, I'm like, oh my God, I'm like involved in that.
	I can't believe it.
	But then all the little things...
	You know, that were kind of like, what is that?
	Why do I know these different things?
	And then I started to see the Secret Space Program guys talk about, you know, their experiences.
	And before they complete sentences or they're going in a certain direction, I'm like, I know what they're going to talk about.
	And I'd even say it out loud and then they talk about what I just said.
	Yeah, well, you know, the funny thing is that I talk about this in my book, but I'm actually involved as well from when I was a kid.
	And I have not Gotten to the bottom of all of that.
	But I was definitely born in a military hospital in Moffett Field.
	And none of my brothers and sisters were.
	And that's in Palo Alto.
	And then I interviewed this fascinating scientist who was in his 90s, I think, Norm Bergram.
	And he wrote the...
	What did he call it?
	The...
	The Rings Around Saturn, the book is about that.
	But it's about the craft in the rings.
	And it's an amazing, it was an amazing revelation, the book.
	We found out about it from John Lear.
	And so apparently, anyway, I was born in that hospital right there.
	And he worked underground in Moffat Field for like Most of his adult life, like over 40 years.
	So he looked at me when I was interviewing him in a certain kind of way that was so weird and very, it just sort of telescopes certain information to me, telling me that, because he was talking at the time about how children, you know, he felt bad that there were so many children that were brought down into the underground base in Moffat Field and Genetically engineered.
	And I'm going, oh God, this is like so much like what I think happened to me.
	And I had total recall when I was a little kid.
	I went on a field trip.
	We went to Ames Research Lab and we pulled up in the bus and we started walking towards it.
	And I go...
	I know this place.
	And I was like, I don't know, I was like nine years old or something.
	I've never been there in my life.
	But it was very weird.
	So I don't know what, you know, I've never gotten to the very bottom of it.
	But I can say that I am very, I relate a lot to anybody who has been messed with.
	I consider myself on my lab, as they call them.
	And I certainly had a lot of alien visitation as well.
	So And that continues.
	And your intuitive abilities, I might add, are impeccable.
	And so the stuff that you reveal just on your own, I think, reveals your connection to that program as well.
	So very, very interesting.
	Yeah, and you know, last night I was watching a movie.
	I've seen it before, but I was interested to see it again now, you know, years later.
	It's called Push.
	It's available, I think it's on...
	It might have been on either Hulu or on Netflix.
	But at any rate, if you want to watch it, it's a good movie.
	But the whole introduction is this little girl talking about how the Nazis did experimentation on humans and how they continued it.
	And then eventually they go and they...
	Well, they abduct and they...
	take children and then they genetically do experiments with them and especially experimenting in terms of telepathy precogs etc and I am a precog and I've always had information so you know When I was younger, nobody talked about that sort of thing, so I didn't talk about it.
	Now, people talk about it every day.
	I think it's wonderful for children growing up now that this stuff is much more out in the open.
	I think that's a much better atmosphere in which to grow up and to begin to actualize your powers.
	Even if you're not genetically engineered or hybridized specifically in that way, although almost everyone is in some way, you will have superpowers in essence that you can actualize if you meditate and learn to do so.
	And you're kind of a teacher of that, right?
	To get people to tap into that?
	Yeah, I work with a lot of people on that.
	It's amazing how many people are awakening to this.
	So this COVID lockdown really opened a lot of people up to it.
	They had no concept of it before.
	Now they're like totally running with it.
	I was like, wow.
	So I work with a lot of those people.
	It's pretty impressive.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, when you have adversity, that kind of forces you into a corner.
	And of course, with nothing to do and nowhere to go, in a sense, then people...
	Maybe exploring that side of themselves more and more.
	Exactly.
	So I feel that I'm involved in or have been involved in time wars and I have memories of that.
	Even when I was a little kid I had like a figure that looks just like me but dressed in some kind of space outfit that came and visited me one time Just portaled in and said, everything's gonna be fine.
	You're gonna be good.
	And I was like, what?
	And then boom, it's gone again.
	It's like, well, that was weird.
	And so, you know, things throughout my life and those early, you know, teenage years, you know, we all go through a lot of crazy stuff.
	But I always looked at that.
	It was like, whatever that was, I believe that was real.
	And when I had difficulties in my life, I was like, everything's gonna be good, you know, because my future self told me.
	And so now I'm seeing that we We, the Secret Space Program and White Hats and so forth, are involved in shutting down a lot of negative things that are being trying to be manipulated, especially during this time frame.
	So what are your...
	I know you've had so many amazing people come on.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, there's an ongoing battle going on.
	And I have to say that certain people that I interviewed talked about the battle more than others, let's say.
	And they were aware of it.
	And in essence, a lot of times when I'm interviewing somebody, it's kind of a cat and mouse game, especially if it's a whistleblower.
	Because the whistleblower will have programming issues.
	That they've been given to not answer questions like mine.
	To change the subject, to do a redirect or a misdirect during the conversation, to try to distract the viewer, the listener.
	And I'm very adept at...
	That's why you dig in sometimes.
	I like that.
	That's good.
	Yeah, I'm very adept at catching.
	So people think, oh, she interrupts people.
	But you see, I'm all about getting the information.
	And when I know somebody is going off track and playing that game, I know immediately and I will say something or do something to knock them out of it because it's like a trance.
	It's kind of like the person goes into a trance.
	And it happens a lot with speakers out there that people interview, but they don't pick up on it and they just let the person rant on and say the same thing they've said in like 60 different interviews.
	And it's like a record playing.
	But I do.
	And so that's where I get people to tell me things that they will tell nobody else and that they didn't even realize they were going to say.
	And it's happened so many times in my interviews.
	Even they'll say to me, oh, well, I didn't realize I never told anyone that or this and that, you know, that kind of thing.
	So that's major.
	As far as my own memories, you know, I have...
	I'm...
	More of a precog.
	I look at the future.
	I see the future.
	Now, I have done this for many, many years, and I have a whole library of stuff in my head about the future.
	And I'm not unlike this little girl that's in that Push movie where she draws.
	I don't draw, but she draws pictures that are going to say, this is going to happen, then this and this and this.
	I think that's a great thing to do if you're a precog, but I don't do that.
	But I do have this library in my head.
	So I know what I've seen.
	Now, I accept the idea that it could be other timelines.
	So I don't, and I also, you know, I don't want to go, like, I never used to talk about it, period.
	And then more and more in the last, just say, I don't know, two or three or four years, I've started to Reveal when I've had some of my precog stuff.
	But I don't want to influence events, number one.
	Number two, I don't want...
	In other words, I could be wrong.
	So I don't want to bring something forward that doesn't happen.
	I don't admire people that try to prophecy.
	So it's interesting that I do see events in the future, but I don't like prophecy.
	So because I think there's like a level of ego in prophecy.
	And most of the people out there that I've known and heard are always wrong.
	Like they're always wrong.
	And they never admit it.
	And when I have a precog event, It's like watching a movie.
	I can tell you the details.
	These people don't have the details.
	You know, they'll say, oh, there's going to be, you know, whatever it is.
	But they don't, you know, most of the time they don't really have the details.
	Now, remote viewers is a different matter.
	So that's not a person who's doing prophecy.
	That's a person who's looking, you know, across time and space and seeing an event because maybe they were tasked with it.
	They could still be wrong because the future is still changeable on a certain level.
	Yes.
	That we do have these, they're called milestones in a sense, but there are these certain events that are probably in every timeline.
	So it's kind of interesting how that works.
	But there are lots of different versions of timelines and I don't know if you've Familiar with the Seth material, Jane Roberts, but that's one of the best books on what I'm talking about and gives the mind ways to think about it.
	Strangely, I read the book when I was like 12 or something, and it really resonated with me, kind of freaked me out at that age, but it did resonate.
	Yeah, your reading at that early age, like I had some of that too, and I See David Wilcock, you know, he's reading like at early age, all this crazy stuff, and it starts to impact you.
	It starts to open you up to these possibilities.
	For me, like you, I have memories of being taken as like a five-year-old, around four or five years old, into the Secret Space Program, and then brought up very, very rapidly, being part of different projects.
	Now, the time travel stuff, you know, the aircraft Well, let me just address what you just said, because, you know, along those lines, I don't have a lot of that sort of thing, but I did.
	I was involved.
	I know this is I talked a little bit about this, I think, in my book.
	Good.
	And my book is very strange because in a sense that sometimes it feels like I downloaded some of it.
	In other words, it's from a part of myself that I kind of don't have a lot of dealings with on the everyday life.
	I'm very busy in my life.
	I do a tremendous amount of work.
	So I don't spend a whole lot of time.
	There was a time in my life when I went into this deep meditation in New York City, as it happened, of all places.
	And I had some periods of time where I didn't have to work every day.
	And so I would meditate all day, every day.
	And I linked up all my chakras and had multiple kundalini Samadhi experiences.
	And I still have those experiences even now.
	But when I had that, it happened after like a concentrated month of doing that.
	And then I had this incredible breakthrough, amazing event, in fact, and so on.
	But during that period of time, I also saw my past.
	And I saw that I had been going into classes underground and Below New York City and in the Montauk area.
	And I also saw that I had been utilized as one of the kids in the Montauk experiments.
	And I actually, you know, when I was having these recurring sort of dreams and memories, I was, again, living in New York City.
	And this was actually in between the years 1979 to 1983.
	Just happened to be those years.
	And I think it's 1983 when Montauk, I think, got shut down.
	But I may have that wrong.
	It's been a lot of years since I looked at all this stuff.
	So all I'm saying is that that is a program that I know I was part of.
	But I don't, you know, I've never talked about it much.
	But there are...
	Stranger Things.
	What?
	It's called Stranger.
	I think Stranger Things.
	Stranger Things, yeah.
	That's great.
	That's uh uh I've talked to someone involved in that similar yeah that it was actually and uh so that's that's fascinating that you're you're so you're basically um telling me stuff that she's told me uh insider type stuff so oh really oh yeah cool very good so that's kind of nice to get those confirmation from other sources right oh yeah you know always yeah I mean, I did a very weird, I don't know if you know a lot about the Montauk thing.
	Do you know a lot about that?
	Yeah, I've studied that quite a bit.
	It's fascinating work.
	Well, one of the things about the Montauk thing is that, this is very strange, but before Camelot, I was going out to interview people.
	Okay, so I hadn't met Bill Ryan and I was doing these interviews.
	And I was going to post them so I was just learning how to use the internet to do that and all this kind of stuff.
	So I started my first website and my first website I put a picture of what ended up to be I didn't realize it consciously at the time, but it was the Montauk horse.
	So there's this time travel Montauk horse that's a symbol.
	That everyone who's involved in the Montauk Project knows what I'm talking about right now.
	People that don't, won't know.
	Because there hasn't been that much talk about it.
	But it's this horse that's associated with time travel.
	And that became my image for my first...
	I didn't even know why I put it back then.
	I was just making a website.
	I needed a main picture for my website.
	Yeah.
	And I put this horse.
	It was, you know, and it was totally, you know, to do with time travel.
	So that's kind of weird.
	Is there any relation to that Denver horse, that crazy horse that fell on the person that sculpted it?
	The Denver horse that did what?
	Yeah, there's a sculpture of a horse, I guess it has like red, red glowing eyes or something like that.
	It was sculpted by a guy and when they were putting it up, it fell on him and killed him.
	So the Denver airport's got some crazy stuff going on.
	Well, that is a whole nother can of worms, you know, and I've had some, I had some precog stuff there.
	Very diabolical.
	And I, you know, that place, man, yeah, very, very...
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But the Montauk horse is not necessarily the same horse, although maybe there was some, you know, relationship there, I don't know.
	Yeah, you know, because they have these symbols and symbology with all this crazy stuff.
	So, okay, so Captain Mark Richards, I mean, you have done amazing work with him.
	He's part of the Secret Space Program.
	Yeah.
	He basically is, in your book I'm reading a little bit, he says, you say he is an honorable officer of the Navy who because of his rebellion against the Draco and Reptoids, Luciferian Alliance, is considered a threat to their operations.
	He was framed for a murder he is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission off planet in service to humanity.
	So you have gone in there multiple times into the prison where he's at and gathered some amazing information.
	Want to talk a little bit about that?
	Sure.
	Well, he's one of the best whistleblowers we've ever had in Camelot, and we've had some great ones, by the way.
	But I would put him, you know, right at the top.
	I have to say, you know, I have interviewed him 12 times, and that is a sit-down interview in person at the prison, which is Solano Prison, Northern California.
	His wife, Joanne, accompanies me, which is valuable to have her there for multiple reasons.
	You know, it's very intimidating.
	I don't know if you know this, but it's very intimidating to go into a prison.
	You know, I don't, for me, it's, you know, I'm a sensitive, I don't like going into places like that.
	And I'm very rebellious anyway, so that's kind of the last place I should be interacting with.
	But at any rate, so I go in there and I'm only given this like little tiny pencil to write notes with because they won't give me, although once a guy did sneak me a pen, but most of the time I don't get a pen.
	I don't get a pen and I'm not allowed, I can't record the interview because I don't go in as an official journalist.
	Oprah Winfrey tried to have him on our show and they didn't allow it.
	No journalists have interviewed him, as far as I know.
	There's been one guy in San Francisco recently, not super recently, but about a year or a year and a half or two years ago, I think it was, who does a radio show, who actually was able to go into the prison and I don't even know how they did it, and broadcast Mark on the radio.
	So you can see him in that footage.
	And he only asked Mark about his Vietnam background.
	He didn't ask him anything about his real, you know, what is Mark's really all about, which is he grew up in the secret space program.
	He became a captain in the military and the Navy.
	His entire family, his father is called the Dutchman.
	He was a famous member of the Air Force during World War II and all of that.
	His grandfather worked with Tesla.
	I mean, his whole history is involved with what is, in essence, the secret space program.
	And this guy completely, of course, that's why they let him in.
	He had no questions whatsoever and didn't ever bring that stuff up.
	So that was kind of interesting.
	But anyway, yes, wonderful stuff.
	It's 12 interviews on my website again.
	Do a search on the last name or on my YouTube channel under Richards and you'll get all the interviews.
	Great stuff.
	I do this thing where I say I'm doing a total recall because even though I write some notes on paper, the pencil is almost impossible to read when I'm done.
	You know, because I'm talking and asking and he's talking and I'm writing and trying to write at the same time.
	It's just like a nightmare.
	But I do have a really good recall for some reason.
	And I, you know, I have to really I mean, it's like it was a discipline to do to remember everything he says in answer to every question and just use some sketchy notes to remind myself.
	So the minute I walk out of the prison, I get in the car and I turn on a recording device and I start, you know, recording everything that I remember.
	Then I transcribe that into notes.
	Then they try to put it in to make it some, you know, legible and understandable.
	And then I do a video sort of recall in which I talk about it.
	So that's what I've been doing for five years, 12 interviews.
	This last year, I haven't been to see him now for the longest period of time, which is a year, because they haven't been allowing visits to the prison because of COVID. So he has a tremendous amount of knowledge about even going back in history.
	And to my surprise, he will sometimes come forward with information about a historical event like the Cuban Missile Crisis and say, He has this amazing way of delivery, and he's a military guy.
	And he's actually respected in the prison for being one of their highest-ranking military officers and treated that way.
	But he's a very serious guy, and he doesn't hesitate at all.
	He just says whatever he...
	All the information just blows out of him.
	There's no...
	Memory issues or hesitancy or any of that stuff.
	It's really a highly intelligent guy, trained actually in remote viewing and all of that back in his military days.
	At Letterman Hospital, as it happens, and associated with the, I guess, I think it was still associated with the Presidio back in those days.
	So he, you know, he goes back to the 60s in the secret space program, whereas his father, of course, goes back into the 40s and 50s, and so on.
	Yeah, so, you know, he talks about how there's negative types in the secret space program, too, and that's kind of my thoughts as well.
	I think those of us that are in the higher consciousness realm, because, you know, we're in these realms of consciousness, we're able to do more, and those that are, like, from the negative side of the consciousness are, like, When we have to work with them, it's like, oh, no, not again.
	It would be like a Super Bowl champion working with a college football team.
	It's like, oh, you've got to be kidding me.
	So that's kind of my thoughts on that.
	Does any of that resonate with you from your interviews and stuff like that?
	Well, I have to say that you have to understand that Mark has been, again, in prison for 35 years or more.
	And he was in In his realm, he was dealing with this, for example, this AI ship called Minerva.
	And he was the only officer, the only pilot, in fact, human pilot that could fly her.
	Right.
	That she would allow.
	And so he talks about things like that.
	And he, I mean, I don't think, you know, it's interesting because prior to being...
	framed for this murder, which is interesting in and of itself.
	And I've got all this information on my website, you know, all the, you know, even I have this guy, unwanted publicity guy, Paul Collin, who's a CIA, NSA knock, who, meaning he got a burn notice, and they took away his passport and everything, so he can't support himself.
	So I try to help him by, you know, getting donations over the years, and he's written me articles.
	And he is an investigator, forensic financial investigator.
	Agent who was stationed in Europe at any rate.
	So he did investigation on the murder trial and had the courts transcripts and all that and revealed so much about the actual trial that was a farce.
	So, but the bottom line is prior to him being arrested.
	Mark lived in a kind of, you know, like, I don't know what you say, a bubble in a way.
	He went off planet, you know, all the time.
	And he spent a little time.
	He was actually, you know, he grew up in Marin County.
	And, for example, he knew Robin Williams.
	They went to school together.
	He knew he was murdered.
	You know, he was really...
	Upset by that.
	He has this amazing background.
	It's really quite extraordinary.
	And he's written, he's a prolific writer.
	He's written books and he's written a tremendous amount of papers.
	Unfortunately, they haven't been turned into books, but they could be.
	It's just that it's so, there's volumes of material that he's written about his experiences in space and also fictionalized truth, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	So that people can handle it.
	And he knows, I mean, he is, he's, well, the raptors, I don't, you know, the velociraptors are sort of identified with him.
	And he has a very close relationship with that race of beings.
	And they are incredibly deadly, as you may know, but they're also very brilliant.
	And they went off planet around the time of, you know, when the dinosaurs supposedly disappeared, right?
	They were a branch and they went in a different direction and eventually ended up back in the Draco galaxy taking over a planet which made them the enemies of the Draco.
	So they came to the conclusion at a certain point that it would be better for their trajectory to not eat humans and maim and use as sexual slaves humans the way that the Draco and the Reptilians do.
	So they changed their ways.
	At any rate, Mark has control of armies of raptors that would do anything that he basically told them to do.
	So this is one of the reasons he's such a threat.
	And he has an incredible relationship, not just with raptors, but other beings, some of whom he met on his travels and so on.
	So I guess what I'm saying in answer to your question is, One of the reasons that he got kind of entrapped into this murder situation is that he didn't actually deal that much with conventional people.
	He didn't have to.
	These young guys were in his construction team and the actual murder was committed by at least one of them and one might have been a Manchurian candidate Put into the situation in order to engineer the situation.
	And this person who did the murder had a history of the person they murdered.
	It was a pedophile and he was murdered because he was a pedophile, strangely.
	And so what happened was this one guy that did the murder was raped.
	It was even said in the trial, but it wasn't admissible into evidence.
	He was raped as a young child.
	And so he had this incredible anger towards any pedophiles, obviously.
	And it sort of mentally unbalanced him as well.
	There's like transcripts of teachers and school and this and that about Him having anger issues, so and so.
	So it really smacks of a setup.
	I mean, it's an incredible setup.
	And this guy, so what happened is he found out the guy who they end up killing was a construction involved.
	Mark did construction on houses back then in his regular job when he was in the real world.
	And so he mentioned that he was a pedophile.
	And this kid, like, kind of went crazy over that.
	So I guess they targeted him.
	Or else, it was like the military.
	Because, you know, the military wanted to frame Mark.
	And actually his father, because they were very close with President Kennedy.
	Friends with him, and they were very aligned.
	With the Kennedy, you know, everything Kennedy was going to disclose.
	So when you take out Kennedy, you don't just take out Kennedy, you take out the people that are close to him in the military, right?
	And I'm sure there have been others that...
	Because you don't want them to disclose, obviously.
	And so there's...
	I think there's a history of this in the military anyway.
	When they find out that you're not on team...
	That's when they take you out or do something to basically plan for the future, discredit you or whatever it's going to be so that you never talk.
	That definitely happened to me.
	The Nazis basically were involved in a lot of this stuff.
	George E. W. Bush being part of setting up the team that basically took out Kennedy and Daly Plaza.
	And he was actually spotted there in a suit.
	And then I, you know, I've had other whistleblowers tell me that, you know, they interviewed one of the shooters, the one that blew his skull off, blew, you know, half his head off.
	So there's interesting information that's coming through where the Bush is basically, they're seen with some Nazi leaders in Germany as children.
	Uh, so a lot of information is coming through for that.
	So a lot of, you know, stuff that's been covered up, like, you know, we're starting to find out about it now.
	And I think that's going to happen.
	Sure.
	What, what do you think about that?
	Um, there's a little, little thing going around right now.
	Everybody's talking about like tomorrow, there are supposedly the military is going to seize, uh, MSN. Uh, have you heard anything about that?
	I'm sorry, but, uh, Well, I don't know, because I did hear there was something going to happen, but I didn't know it was tomorrow.
	But what are you hearing?
	I'm totally interested.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, there's some high-level people that have been talking about it.
	Juan was just reading.
	He's not specifically saying that is going to occur.
	Charlie Ward was saying that.
	I put it out on my channel a couple nights ago.
	When you say it, what's it?
	So basically I guess there was a they took down did some arrests and they told MSM okay you need to like publish this and they refused and so they basically have put themselves in a situation where they can be seized because they didn't put out this information that was was true and from what I'm hearing and it's been put out there on a lot of different channels a lot of people start to talk about it is that tomorrow 6 o'clock Eastern Time.
	That will be, you know, 3 o'clock our time.
	That is, there's going to be a basic seizure.
	Now, we've been through, you know, as you know, we've heard this stuff.
	If it's that much out in the open, kind of doubtful that it will happen.
	I was just kind of curious if you've heard about this, but Oh no, I actually hadn't heard about this, but I mean, it sounds, you know, like part and parcel of what goes on, but I, you know, and it, I mean, it depends, like I would ask you which individuals are talking about it.
	I don't want to expose anybody here, but you've already said Juan, so Juan Osavan is talking about it.
	Now, Juan Osavan is quite dependable.
	In most cases, as far as I can tell, he has not actually been proven wrong yet.
	And in fact, even the March 4th date, that I think he does acknowledge that that's, you know, March 4th is a major date, of course, you know that, where Trump is supposed to be re-inaugurated, so to speak, or at least in the public, come forward in the public as the president of the republic, not the corporation.
	So that's the date, supposedly.
	Now, that date is out there with everyone, but Juan Osavin is one of the few that says he'll be president by April 1st.
	That's what he says.
	So, of course, we have to wait and see if he's going to be proven right or wrong, or if something's going to happen to interfere with all of that.
	I think he's one of the most dependable sources, hence why I wanted to invite him on my show.
	I would love to see him on your show because, like I said, if, you know, you're...
	No, because I'd like to mess with him a bit.
	No, I'm just...
	No, he's great.
	He's really great.
	And he would be very, very adept at, like, you know, overcoming that because I've seen other people try and do that to him and he's like just, you know, kind of like me.
	Yeah, no, he's really, I mean, he's really a straight shooter, but he's very wily.
	Yeah.
	Now, Lynn, I also think Lynn Wood's great.
	I know.
	The only issue I have where he speaks constantly, making religious references, that sort of thing.
	But I think we could probably get beyond that.
	I'd be glad to have him on my show as well.
	I've been putting out outreach to try to do this, get these guys.
	But a lot of times I'm considered off, you know, sort of off in the The ozone, they're not, they're not actually, I've been told that people are told, especially people that are, you know, insiders and all that.
	Now, all these years later after Camelot, of course, or during, since Camelot, they've been told to stay away from me because I do, I prove that I can get information that they don't want out there.
	You know, their superiors don't want them to reveal.
	So they, I mean...
	With William Tompkins, he was due to come back the second time on my show.
	The night before he was going to come on the show, which had been on the books for like a couple months, he basically called me and said, don't ever call me again.
	Don't ever speak to me again.
	I'm not allowed to talk to you.
	And hung up with them.
	And then he died about a month or two later.
	And, you know, that was really sad because he was, you know, I know that he was something of a loose cannon that they couldn't keep him quiet, really.
	Especially because he and I ended up to have sort of this subliminal Pleiadian connection that we both became aware of during the interview.
	And he, you know, so that, that was, that sort of made him more of an open door to me than he was to other people.
	So anyway, I, you know, that's just one of those things.
	Well, if you said, you sort of, sort of slid over something where you said you had involvement somehow, were you talking about yourself and Nazis or what were you trying to say?
	I was just curious.
	So I've had guests only talk about that.
	And so in the secret space program, I believe that You know, they were kind of like the forerunners of the secret space program and had built up and then we had like the positive ETs come in and start to help us.
	And I think we, I believe that we've surpassed them.
	Now, not everyone in the Nazi program is negative, of course, you know, just like Germans.
	Germans are like good people, but they had, like we have right now, Maybe some negative people that are at the top.
	So other people are influenced, you know, down the line from that.
	But people of a certain consciousness that are very like reptilian, draconian, or Draco in their thinking.
	Very violent, very angry.
	Because I've seen some of them, you know, you've probably seen or heard about, you know, shapeshifters and stuff like that.
	In the CIA, I would see them occasionally.
	You just learn, like, you know, when the eyes, you know, slit, they just slit, they like, because I would ask you a question, I'm like, do a little test sometimes.
	And I get the eye slit and the angry response.
	I'm like, okay, don't push that one.
	But I just heard from a friend just recently about, you know, we were talking about, you know, some reptilian types that have like the short arms, you know?
	The head person in YouTube has those arms.
	So it's like, you know, they start to see little things and hear little things.
	So, I mean, we don't want to go too far in that because we're going to get knocked down here.
	But when we get knocked down, we're kind of seeing, you know, who's involved in that.
	But that's really how I was...
	Well, you know, that's completely real.
	I have to say that I've come across a few myself.
	And I've also had dreams of certain beings.
	It's really interesting.
	You know, I was a contractor at NASA, at JPL, back before I started Camelot.
	Because I had worked mainly in the entertainment industry, in movies and television.
	In Hollywood for like 20 years.
	And then there was this sort of downturn in the whole economy and, you know, there was no jobs to be had.
	So I had to branch out and I ended up over at JPL, which at the time I really wasn't happy about.
	But I ended up having quite a rapport with the Scientists and engineers at the space.
	This was all about space.
	And I ended up doing quite a bit over there and having some very positive things happen for me over there.
	But I also had psychic connection with JPL and the actual premises.
	I think I might have mentioned this to you.
	Did I mention it?
	No.
	Maybe in another interview recently.
	But anyway, so...
	I just happened to have information about what is going on there and was going on there and various things.
	So at one point I had this dream that I was in line at the cafeteria.
	And ahead of me was this reptilian being who was humanoid.
	And he was very tall.
	Not super tall like somebody would notice him differently, but he was tall and thin.
	I think he had no hair.
	His skin was a very strange color of pale white.
	I liken it to the belly of a lizard.
	Have you ever seen how they have this white scaly?
	It's a certain kind of skin.
	This is in my dream.
	This isn't in real life.
	And I don't know why I saw him and he turned around and looked at me.
	And man, that guy was so evil.
	And so like, wow.
	I mean, it was just really bizarre.
	And, and so, you know, I had to sort of protect myself and get out of there.
	But That was a very interesting dream to have about JPL. Because it was so mundane.
	We're getting in line to get lunch at the cafeteria, just like normal.
	And there's this guy.
	I don't know.
	It's very interesting how you get information, how it comes to you sometimes.
	But yeah, I have quite a few of those kinds of stories.
	And I also...
	It's important to realize, you know, I lead tours in Egypt.
	Have you been to Egypt?
	Oh, yeah.
	Love Egypt.
	Pax flight, all kind of crazy stuff there in Egypt.
	So it's magnificent.
	Okay.
	So anyway, so I go to ancient sites and we make documentaries of it as well.
	My partner, Neil, he does a very good job with the camera when we're on location.
	With groups even.
	And so we went to Gobekli Tepe also in Turkey.
	And these sites, there is a lot of sites that have lots of reptilian, especially in Turkey, by the way, but in the Middle East, of course, everywhere, and Syria, and Iraq, okay, and Iran.
	So they've got reptilian beings carved everywhere.
	And of course, in Egypt, they have, you know, inside the temples, the carvings and whatnot of the alligator species.
	And so on.
	So the presence of reptilians around, you know, there's also in what they call Quetzalcoatl is a reptilian with feathers symbolizing really the Draco.
	So, you know, dragon, Quetzalcoatl.
	But anyway, a lot of people don't know that.
	So I'm just saying there's tons of symbolism and that's why they have been, you know, there was a time with in Iraq, And in Syria, where they have actually paid soldiers to go destroy these reptilian sites.
	And I believe it's because they want to hide the fact that reptilians used to rule the earth.
	Right.
	They don't want people to realize that.
	Because they're here, they're hidden, most of the time they're in either underground bases or interdimensional.
	They don't actually, you know, it's not easy for them to walk around in our atmosphere.
	At least until they chemtrail it sufficiently and have enough spills to make it full of methane and radiation.
	At that point, when they have a lower oxygen content, then they're going to be able to be here much more easily.
	Yeah.
	So also in your book, you mentioned Black Projects.
	So I've seen a few of those over the years, been involved in a few here and there.
	Obviously not something I can talk about, but...
	The money that goes into these projects is astronomical.
	And much of it, you know, as I learned over time in the CIA, and it's probably one of the reasons why I got, you know, targeted at one time, was that I started seeing some of that and maybe made a mention.
	So you've had a show in the past where you had a kind of a whistleblower come on that was supposedly Navy SEAL, That you had mentioned, I somewhat validated him and my life changed from that point on.
	So there's, we won't discuss that because like I said, if I just mention the name, it'll like probably hurt both of us.
	So, but the black projects happen.
	They're out there.
	Money comes from illicit, like, you know, slave trade, human trafficking, weapons trafficking, drug trafficking.
	I've seen All of that negative side in the dark CIA. So what are your thoughts on that?
	Yes.
	I mean, you know, I mean, yes.
	Epstein, you know, a lot of people don't realize, I mean, Epstein was heavily involved in serving the dark side of the secret space program.
	And the ranch that he had in New Mexico, you know, was a He had train loads going, you know, to the ranch in New Mexico, and then probably from there underground into an underground base, delivering children.
	So he wasn't just, you know, things didn't just happen on his island with congressmen.
	He was part of what was in essence a delivery service of, you know, human trafficking of children and other An incredible amount of supplies of all kinds that he was involved in.
	I think he might have been involved in the Hillary uranium situation as well.
	In other words, there is a lot there.
	So, I mean, yes, duh.
	I mean, what you say is what financed the secret space program is human trafficking.
	Drugs, you know, guns.
	I mean, all the usual suspects, so to speak.
	That's how they finance themselves.
	Now, I read, I think recently, where they actually said human trafficking is far and away beyond monetarily, more Profitable for them than all the other things they do, which is hard to believe, but that's what I heard.
	Yeah, and so it's major.
	I mean, this is the trouble, okay, that I would say for people that are trying to understand what is going on with Trump and team.
	Yes.
	He's not just fighting, you know, what seems to be like the surface perception, you know, that people don't get it and they won't reveal the truth.
	The bottom line is he's actually fighting this secret space program, the dark side of it that is run by the reptilians and is and has been for many, many years.
	And William Tompkins actually outlined a lot of that on my interview and I I think on other interviews he did.
	I believe, you know, he was tasked with starting to reveal the reptilian influence on our secret space program.
	You know, and more of that will come out.
	But unfortunately, as far as I'm concerned, whistleblowers are much fewer and far between now, real ones.
	We have people that...
	I'm not going to name names, but there are people who come out and they're actually, you know, basically putting a spin job on stuff that's already out there and claiming, you know, certain level of being in the know and all of this.
	And a lot of times they're quite low level.
	And in some cases they're super periphery.
	That's actually the problem right now.
	It's very, very difficult to get real whistleblowers.
	It used to be much easier.
	And, you know, of course, there was a clampdown.
	It started, you know, with Julian Assange and Snowden.
	And they were the public kind of bases of the clampdown on whistleblowers.
	And so since that time, it's been very difficult to get Good intel about that.
	But luckily, it came at a time where we had put out, you know, so many videos and so much great information that it's okay because, I mean, we have a huge amount of information on my website and those interviews that I've, you know, and I've spent hours and hours with some of these people, okay, off the camera as well.
	So, you know, I have it, so that I'm a resource, I guess you could say.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	And I guess you are, too, in essence, because, you know, from the sound of it, you know quite a bit.
	Yeah, I mean, it keeps, you know, I've seen a lot of stuff, you know.
	Both of us know how to keep it on the download, some of the stuff.
	It's been part of Top Secret and Above programs for a long time.
	And some of it I'm just not going to reveal because it's like protecting people that are still involved in those programs.
	I would never reveal that.
	But some of it is like super negative.
	So wow, you're like revealing even more stuff than what I knew.
	So that's fabulous.
	That's why you're a wonderful resource.
	So I just wanted to point out that you've been doing this for a very long time.
	And for someone to have done it as long as you have and still survive and still actually look good, because I know they've attacked you physically at some point, so I could see some of that in you.
	I was like, dang, they're really hitting hard now.
	But now I think you look great.
	So what happened?
	I'm sure you felt some of that.
	How are you overcoming that now?
	Well, I think part of my upgrade, you know, that I received way back in the day.
	See, you know, I was upgraded not just by my lab, but also by ETs.
	So I believe that I have a lot of help in that regard.
	The fact that I have connected my chakras and have kundalini activation means that gives you a lot of healing powers.
	Somebody just...
	I don't know who that person is.
	Okay, so I better shut down.
	Sorry, so that doesn't happen again.
	Hold one second.
	I'm just going to shut down my telegram because...
	Yeah, let me say that I have never had any problems, but when I was going to come on with you, it's like, as you and I know, there were some difficulties, but we shifted real quick and made it happen.
	So I know that, you know, electronically, I was like, I see you struggle because they're like constantly hitting you.
	Yeah, no, they're on me like white on rice.
	You know, they do mess with me still to this day.
	Although I have some real, you know, people that are protecting me and even you know I had somebody who they started to harass me when I went to Britain and they were harassing me at the airport and you know one time they took my suitcase and they they pulled it out and started searching it right in front of all the people like like Like,
	you know, people were going by in the baggage claim or where it was, and on a table, and they just drew all my stuff in my suitcase, like I was some international terrorist or something.
	And I was just, you know, like, I was laying on a table, just, you know, bored, ignoring them, just waiting for them to, you know, but I put a call in to somebody.
	I'm not going to say who or anything.
	Since then, they haven't done this kind of thing to me.
	I think that person gave them a heads up.
	All I'm saying is I have humans supporting me.
	I also, of course, have Angelic, you know, beings and this and that.
	So, you know, and I've seen, you know, I don't know if you want to call them angels.
	I see light beings.
	I get visited.
	I have been visited my whole life by them.
	I see them, you know, and so on.
	But to my dismay, I don't hear them, you know.
	Although sometimes I'm clear audience, but I don't actually hear the light.
	You know, I assume they're talking to me.
	And I think that I get a download, like I'll get information, but I don't, you know, I'm not, you know, cognizant of that at the moment that I'm interacting with them, which is very frustrating.
	I'm the same way I'm a visual guy.
	They have whispered in my ear before, and I was like, guys, I don't, that's kind of weird for me, because I've had the negative type, you know, do a lot of whispering.
	I was like, ah.
	So, yeah.
	I like to just feel it, and I get the visual.
	I'm feeling it intuitively, and then I get the visions, and if I need to, a remote view something, but that's kind of the way it works for me.
	Yes, I guess I get, you know, a lot of visuals.
	But once in a while, I'll get audio.
	So that's just kind of weird.
	But it's not, like I said, it's not in the presence of...
	It's something that just comes, you know, in weird.
	Those are very rare.
	That's quite rare.
	But, you know, yeah, I can buy, locate, and stuff like that as well.
	I've had major stuff come download...
	In the midst of bi-locating to places.
	I love to travel because it actually opens up and allows me to do my bi-locating and get information about different time periods and different places and go in the past.
	Usually, in that case, it's usually in the past and stuff.
	Yeah.
	But I'm not sure how long you stay on your interviews, but I think I have to get going because my dog is getting very antsy over here.
	And how can people get a hold of you?
	And I'll put links to your book and anything else you want me to put in the description box.
	Great.
	Thank you.
	Well, obviously, I'm on Telegram, so Project Camelot.
	And I also have a Project Camelot chat.
	So people, you know, because initially I couldn't figure out how to do that.
	And then I did.
	So rest assured, you can chat, you know, to your heart's content on there.
	And my website, projectcamelotportal.com.
	ProjectHamlot.tv or ProjectHamlot.org.
	Those are the URLs.
	They all go to the same place.
	Most of my interviews, I have them on my YouTube channel for a little while.
	And then I have to disappear them.
	So what I do is I mark them unlisted.
	I publish the link, but mainly if you can't find the link, you won't see it on the channel.
	It's on my website.
	So that's where they demonetized me in May of 2020.
	After giving me a number of strikes and basically made it so I couldn't make any money on advertising, which was how I supported myself for all these years with that and donations.
	So, and, you know, without that, I wouldn't be doing this job because, you know, I couldn't maintain the amount of work it requires really to stay up to date.
	And, you know, I'm sure you're starting to realize that if you haven't already.
	Yeah.
	You know it's just because otherwise you just there's so much you know we're getting so much even these lot more than ever before there's information so we don't have whistleblowers so much but we do have information that kind of bits and pieces comes through and then you know hopefully uh turns out you can vet it.
	But anyway, that's how to reach me.
	So go to my website.
	I've got the link to my Telegram channel there, front and center, for people to see.
	Because I'm posting stuff there every day, all day long, on and off.
	I get intel.
	I post it there.
	I get, you know, I find links.
	I find stuff out there in the news and other channels and mainstream wherever it is, and I post it and I'll make a comment or just let people see it because I think it's interesting or important or I just think that, you know, it's worth investigating.
	It doesn't mean I believe it.
	So, you know, people are like, you know, you posted this, you must believe it and all this kind of stuff.
	It's not it's not how I work.
	I keep, even to do with everything, my own stuff, even precog stuff, I keep an open mind because I like the idea that, you know, that things aren't predictable necessarily, that we could have surprises along the way.
	I think that makes life interesting.
	So I'm not, you know, I don't really care, you know, if I get it for sure.
	I just happen to have gotten these precog dreams over the years that came to me And now I'm starting to see them come true.
	It's been a lot of years before they came true, but they are now.
	Which is worrying, because some of them are not so good, but I'm hoping for the best.
	Which, as you know, as a precog, we have to distinguish, well, should we release this?
	Because people focus on it, they can bring it in.
	But people can, like you're saying, can focus on not having that actually happen.
	That's just beautiful that you're in that.
	So a lot of love to you from the chat.
	I don't know if you're related to Stephen Cassidy, but he's got lots of love.
	No relation.
	Cassidy is my stage name, by the way.
	It's not my real last name.
	My real last name is actually English.
	And I didn't like it, so I just changed my name when I was 21.
	So that's what, you know, I knew, you know, as a precog, I knew I was going to be well known, and I didn't want to have that be my last name.
	Oh, interesting.
	Fascinating.
	All right.
	So I chose an Irish one because I'm a rebel.
	So that's why I chose it.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And because it sounded good with Curie, so that's it.
	So, like, always unbelievable.
	I can't believe, since I've watched your show for, like, Like you said, like 16 years or so.
	And just fascinating.
	We've been enthralled with all your information.
	And now we're like, you know, booking up is like a dream come true for me.
	So thank you so much for coming on my show.
	Like I said, lots of great comments.
	And I think this show is probably going to blow up like a lot of shows that you do.
	And I wish you the best of luck.
	And, you know, hopefully in the future we get to do some more shows together.
	That'd be great.
	I'd love to have you back because I don't think there's so much that I didn't get a chance to talk to you about.
	So if you're willing, let's do that.
	Absolutely.
	Lovely.
	All right.
	Lots of help to you and all the audience.
	Thank you guys for joining us and we'll see you guys next time.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	Awesome.

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