ENCOUNTERS USA INTERVIEW WITH KERRY CASSIDY AND DR. SIMEON HEIN
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight.
So we have Matthew Hines with us and Simeon Hine, two different last names, but they're quite similar.
And Matthew is going to be our host tonight.
And this is really his ballgame.
So I'm going to bring him on the show.
There.
And Encounters USA is the name of the channel.
And so take it away, Matthew.
All right, Kerry.
Well, thank you so much for allowing me this time to host your show.
You know, I'm just going to say this as quickly as I can.
I started out years, like five years ago with Kerry.
Just an unknown guy.
Really didn't, you know, have much of a podcast going.
And I just want to say thanks to Carrie for kind of bringing me along.
Over the years, she's been on my podcast.
She's been on with other guests like Ron Moorhead.
And every time, it is just an honor that I can get somebody like Carrie, who's basically initiated this whistleblower thing.
And I wrote a blog that I just put out.
And basically, Carrie has produced an entire, like, subculture.
Over the years that she's been doing this, I think that without doubt, she's the most successful at it.
And I cannot say thank you enough, Carrie, for letting me be on this show.
So before we go too much farther, tonight, along with Carrie, we're going to have Dr.
Simeon Hine, who is an absolutely fascinating individual.
Simeon, can you just say hello really quick?
Hey, hello, Carrie, and hi, Matt.
Thanks for having me here tonight.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, I had Simeon on.
We're doing a podcast about Skinwalker Ranch last week.
And I think Simeon sat there for 10 minutes before he got on.
And I think people probably didn't even think he was on the show.
So let's get a little bit of house cleaning business out of the way.
The last time I talked to Kerry, it was like a couple of years ago, I think.
I think it was almost two years ago.
And Carrie, you've written a book, and I want to hear a little bit about that.
Can you talk about Rebel Gene for a little bit?
Sure.
Do you want me to talk now about it?
Well, I'd just like to know, when did it come out, and what was your inspiration for it?
Okay, well, it came out in, actually, Valentine's Day of 2020.
And then I had to do some tweaks to it.
But I think, and then we got the sort of paper back out after that.
So that was the ebook first.
It took me years to write.
And it's gotten a really amazing response out there, I have to say, which is really thrilling to me to put so much work into something.
And I had no idea, you know, because I cover, you know, this topic.
Mainly the secret space program, where we're headed as humanity, and various things in it.
And it's a huge topic to deal with.
And I've done over a thousand whistleblower and non-whistleblower authors, investigators, various people, but over a thousand people and even more on radio.
So To take all of the knowledge was was my objective to take all of the knowledge and gel it down in such a way that people could come in to read my book and then feel that they really are launched into understanding what's really going on in the universe, so to speak, or at least on the earthly side of it.
And so that's kind of what I did.
It's like I said, I'm very, very touched by by the good response.
And What can I tell you?
I talk about the providence of information that I get.
I talk about things that happened in Project Camelot specifically with me, my original partner, Bill Ryan, going way back in history because now I've been out this for 16 years.
And I talk about super soldiers and bases on the moon and Mars and various planets and The Mark Richards testimony.
And by the way, that's my next book is going to be taking my 12 interviews with Mark Richards, and packaging that into basically a book.
And that's, it, it may go over, you know, you can have sort of a limit and how, how big the book can be.
So I'm not sure yet, if it all fits, like, you know, in space wise, but In theory, it'll fit into one book.
And that'll be, I think, really amazing.
But things have been so crazy lately that I haven't had time to actually finish that book.
So I have started it.
So I'm not sure you know, because if you ask me a direct question about the book, If you read it or you didn't, then maybe we can talk another time after you read it.
Okay.
Yeah, I have another podcast.
This is a great time to just go ahead and plug that.
I have a podcast called Books in Hindsight.
And of course, as an author, as being an author myself, I interview authors.
And so, yeah, I'd love to have you back here and on Books in Hindsight.
Now, before I get over to Simeon, who is also an author, Carrie, I... I just wanted you to see, we kind of discussed this a little bit.
I don't know if you can see my background here.
Can you see this?
Oh, yeah.
These are designs that I asked Carrie.
I wanted to do this years ago.
I wanted to come on the show and have an I Heart Carrie Cassidy shirt on.
But over time, I said, why doesn't she just sell these?
Anyway, we're going to talk about it.
If you like these shirts, if you would buy one, leave a comment.
Leave a comment on Carrie's thing and I will sell them or Carrie will sell them.
But I know there's enough people out there that love Carrie and would wear this shirt to show support for her.
So it's out there.
It's really up to you to pressure Carrie to let me sell them or to have her sell them.
And Carrie, you also sell stuff on your website, correct?
Well, yeah, now we have caps and things like that, but I can't possibly sell it.
That would be so egotistical to sell a sweatshirt like that.
So I can't do that.
But if you want to do it, it's your choice.
You know, that's up to you.
Absolutely.
And the profits will go.
I will take some and send the rest to Carrie to support her.
So anyway, it's out there.
You can check it out at EncountersUSA.com.
I'll go ahead and post them.
Okay, so I just thought I'd share my book.
I think you can see it here.
This is the book cover.
So can you see that?
Yep.
Okay, and then just because I have it on hand, I'll just share the actual Amazon.
So you'll see.
And it gets more or less five stars.
I still have my trolls in there, but so that's that situation.
So Yeah, Carrie, unfortunately, you know, when I did my screen, you're actually here.
Your book is here, but I don't think you can see it very well.
So sorry about that, and thanks for showing it.
No worries.
Well, yeah.
Authors, you're always welcome on Encounters USA, and we're always going to do whatever we can to support you.
So another amazing author is Dr.
Simeon Hine.
Simeon, let's...
Let's just say, first of all, you have two books and you have your remote viewing course.
But let's talk first of all about Black Swan Ghosts.
Sure.
A little rundown.
And as you're listening to this podcast, this is not a book review show.
Everything that we're talking about now is going to be what we're talking about as a subject matter of what people have reported from Antarctica, of what's been going on on Mars, supposedly.
So everything that Carrie and Simeon have published...
I'll relate to this.
So I just want to make sure that you're aware that in this small podcast, this is like the tip of the iceberg, and the information is there in these people's books.
So, Simeon, talk to us about Black Swan Ghosts very quickly.
Oh, well, thanks for having me here tonight.
Actually, it's three books, Matt.
I have another book called Planetary Intelligence, but we'll talk about Black Swan Ghosts.
You know, I wrote this book because I came across a lot of evidence.
You know, I come from an academic background.
We went to the same university, right?
WSU, Coleman, Washington.
Spent many years there, taught there as an assistant professor.
This was back in the late 80s, early 90s.
And I never heard about any of these topics, the things that preoccupy me now.
And the more evidence I came across, especially witnesses to UFO events, ET encounters, the type of thing that Carrie has spent a lot of time covering, and more.
You know, there was such a contrast, a disturbing contrast between what I had been officially taught was real versus what people were telling me they were experiencing.
Now, this all started after getting involved with remote viewing.
With Courtney Brown back at the Farsight Institute in 1996, there were witnesses from NASA that had shown up there to take RV. Somehow the RV environment makes people feel comfortable about sharing their stories.
They don't feel that they'll be ridiculed.
It's a safe environment for people that have had contact with other phenomena to share their stories.
And I met some of these folks, and they're very credible people.
One had been a shuttle astronaut.
He never actually, he was a civilian astronaut.
You know, they actually never go into space.
They train, but they actually never fly because NASA trains many more people than they actually send up.
Civilian astronaut.
Then there was another fellow there named John, who had been responsible for transcribing 16 millimeter film onto video of the moon.
Of the NASA 16 millimeter films from the space missions, the moon missions.
And he said, we talked so many times, he said it was very clear that there were structures there.
He even said you could probably see them with a telescope, a good telescope from Earth.
And when he was looking over these films, he could see structures and buildings and things that have been destroyed.
I thought, what am I hearing here?
But these were very credible people.
I ended up encountering so many of these types of people in my life, one after another.
These were not people that you would know about, for the most part.
These were people that I had come across not whistleblowers, like Carrie deals with.
These are ordinary people that somehow knew I was involved with RV, that shared stories with me, and that's why I ended up writing Black Swan Ghost, because these are events that we don't like to talk about as a society.
Phenomena that we push away, and we make them almost ghostly because no one wants to talk about them, but they have a potential black swan effect, like a black swan event where something happens that has really disproportionate impact on our society, which at some point it's going to if we keep ignoring it.
So that's why I did it.
Okay, and then jumping over to Opening Minds.
Yeah.
That's kind of about, so that's about your experiences with Dr.
Brown, right?
Well, partly, yeah.
It was about learning RV, finding out that it really worked, something I wouldn't have believed unless I had taken a course in it and spent a lot of time studying it, teaching it.
And also very strange events around crop circles.
It was my attempt to expose to the public and share with them the reality of these phenomena in the way I had experienced them and how that challenges the existing paradigms that we all grow up with and that we learn at places like WSU.
And not to put it down in any way, but any university is going to teach you a certain version of reality.
But the question is, is that version of reality true or is there something more going on that we haven't been told about?
So that's the purpose of opening minds.
Okay.
And so if you don't know who Courtney Brown is, I know both of you guys have worked with them.
Carrie, do you want to give us a little background on Courtney Brown?
And the reason we're talking about Courtney is because right now we're going to jump into what Courtney Brown has found in Antarctica as far as remote viewing goes.
So Carrie, can you give us a little background on Courtney?
Yeah.
Well, I can say that actually...
Courtney Brown, I haven't worked with him, but I've interviewed him numerous times.
And he and I have had our own sort of run ins, if you want to call it that.
And so that's, you know, just kind of funny.
He's very good sport, and he kind of, you know, goes along with me.
But I will say that, you know, Go listen to my interviews with him.
Anyway, so he is head of his remote viewing sort of institute.
And it's called the Farsight Institute, as I recall.
And he so it's I mean, really, Simeon, if he's worked for him, will know a lot more than me.
Simeon, I'm curious, how long did you work for him?
Because I didn't hear your name.
Were you in the background?
What was your what was your position over there?
Well, I was in, I believe, one of his first classes back in May 1996.
And then because I had just finished my PhD, he asked me to stay on and help teach with him for, I would say I stayed for about a year and a half.
Okay, so what year approximately?
96, 97.
Oh, that's quite a long time ago.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Quite a long time ago.
Many moons.
Okay.
Fair enough.
And so Courtney Brown is, he is like the handler, if you will, of a number of remote viewers.
And those remote viewers, I've also interviewed several of them.
And I've seen and looked into a lot of the incidents that he's looked into.
You're talking about Antarctica, Matthew.
So is this a new remote viewing that's been done?
And do you know the name of the remote viewers involved?
Well, okay.
Let's...
Good job for one second.
I want to, because I want people to understand where we're really going with this.
We are going to go, really, I got in touch with Kerry because I saw Linda Moulton Howe's video on Antarctica, Aliens Under the Ice.
And I said, well, you know, I've heard so much coming out of, you know, from different things, different people about what's going on in Antarctica.
So I want to find a credible person.
I mean, I've heard that there's Egyptians down there.
There's tall aliens.
They found like a lost civilization.
They found so many things down there.
What's the truth?
So Where I get in with Courtney Brown is that his remote viewers seem to really kind of make the most sense.
So they remote viewed a spaceship.
Simeon, are you familiar with that?
No, no, I'm not.
I've seen a lot of the Farsight videos that have been put out over the years.
Okay, before we go any farther though, between Kerry and Simeon, and I'm going to vote in favor of Dr.
Brown.
Is this credible?
Can we believe this stuff?
Is there any seed of truth with what they're doing?
In your opinions.
Well, I lean more towards targets that can have verification.
And the issue with doing targets like what you're talking about is at the end of the day, we don't really know unless we send someone down there.
Let me just show you one example of that right here.
This is a little binder I put together of types of targets we do for training purposes, not these esoteric targets.
You give them a picture of the target, And then if the session goes, you know, in a successful way, they're able to reproduce the picture.
Can you see that?
They were able to draw it.
Do you have something going on in the background, like some kind of background thing going on?
I think it's turned on.
If you could turn that off, because it's got all this, it's jumping all over.
Okay, I'll do it in a second.
Here's a picture of a jet.
It's kind of hard.
You guys know what RV is.
For any people watching, you're describing something you haven't seen yet.
You won't see the picture until you're done.
I could go on and on with these types of targets.
These are verifiable targets.
The idea is We already know what these targets are.
Simeon, I'm going to have to stop you right there.
This is the problem I have with you.
You're always bringing in science.
Every time I try to have a...
You always want proof.
Well, guys, you have to walk before you run.
And the way the military trained the viewers, and the way Ingo Swann, who created the system that I learned, You start out with verifiable targets and then let me finish.
You gradually progress to other types of targets that will be useful to whoever actually having you do the viewing.
Whether it's a friend or people looking for someone or in the case of the government program, the intelligence agencies that are using it for psychic espionage.
And so you progress from these verifiable targets to targets that are less verifiable, or you have other means of verifying it, maybe with satellites or human intelligence or other types of assets that you would have to corroborate the viewer's stories.
So with the type of target you're mentioning here, you have to leave it in a gray box because that's Stanton Friedman's phrase.
You can't confirm.
At the end of the day without more information.
And that's what Ingo would call it.
So that'd be my stance on it, Matt, like it or not.
These targets could...
I've done so many of these too.
They could be correct.
You have your viewers that are so accurate and then you give them a UFO target or something in the distant past or in the solar system and they get this amazing information.
And you would like to believe That because they were accurate on all the other targets you gave them, this has to be correct, too.
You just don't know until you have something else to verify it with.
So it just has to remain in the unknown category.
Could be correct, could be not.
Without more information, we don't know.
Okay, although that, first of all, Ingo Swann, he remote-viewed...
I forget what it was.
Some kind of satellite around Jupiter.
It was Jupiter.
You know he got the rings ahead of time.
And then it was what he remote viewed ahead of time.
In fact, I think it was years ahead of time.
Eventually, scientists spotted through telescopes.
So in that case, we got verification of one of his remote viewing, off-planet remote views.
And he also worked for the secret intelligence department.
You know, agencies and so on and so forth and did a lot of work for them.
And he also remote viewed installations in Russia that ultimately got proven.
So his track record is what you really look at.
And then if he gets something off planet, sure, it's in a gray area if you want to call it that.
If it doesn't get a verification, at least in this world that people deal with.
But I can assure you that once somebody has a good track record, they're quite, quite Reliable, especially when the ones that Courtney works with, they do the same thing.
So Courtney puts them through all those paces.
They get a track record and they get better and better and better.
And some of the best remote viewers in the world work for Courtney or have worked, like Dick Allgaier, who's still out there getting hits all the time.
In fact, he remote viewed what happened on the 6th of January at the Capitol, for example, and was dead on.
So maybe in case you haven't followed that.
So, you know, it's all about track record.
It's not necessarily that you can only verify the target.
It's, you know, you verify the targets as they go.
But the further out they go, the less verification you're going to have.
But at least you have a reliable remote viewer looking at them.
So it ups the ante in terms of the proportion of, you know, Reliability, if you want to call it that.
Now, that doesn't mean I agree with all his remote viewers and everything they come across, but I can say that there is a good track record for each one that he does make a public remote viewer, you know, that's part of his team and so on.
So were you part of his team?
Well, again, I worked there back, you know, about 20 years ago.
I didn't work with him after that, though I did serve on his board of directors for a couple years recently.
And yes, sometimes you do have these amazing successes, just like you were mentioning with Ingo, viewing rings around Jupiter well before the Voyager craft got there.
But that's a type of verification that Ingo knew he was eventually going to get.
He didn't like to do non-verifiable targets.
Now, Honestly, it doesn't mean that they're wrong because you can't verify it, but if you talk to viewers like Joe McMonagle and others, who, you know, super accurate viewers too, just like Ingo was, Pat Price, there were some real superstars there.
Even some of his sessions, he gave examples where he had predicted an assassination attempt on a president.
And the head of the Secret Service or something said to him, How confident are you in this prediction for tomorrow?
Because I need you to be 100% confident.
It's in one of his books.
I need you to be 100% confident before I deploy all of these resources to protect the president.
And Joe said, I'm 80% confident.
And the guy said, that's not good enough for me.
Nothing happened the next day.
There was no assassination attempt.
So even super accurate viewers can be wrong.
And I just think we need to keep it in perspective.
Sometimes they can be right.
Ingo, other cases, just amazing where it was ahead of time and it turned out to be accurate.
But in some cases, we don't know.
And I have to go with the Joe McMonagle story.
Unless it's 100%.
Are you willing to deploy resources and energy and your own resources when you're 80%?
How confident do you need to be?
It's just a question.
I don't have the answer, but it's a good question to ask.
Okay, can I jump in here?
Because somebody, and thank you, Kerry, for saying what you said and kind of vouching for the Institute, because really, the government makes sure that there is no way to verify it, right?
That is the problem.
There is no way to verify, especially what we're talking about today or tonight.
So, I mean, Simeon or Dr.
Hein, if you are going to behave and tell me your experience with remote, we brought you here.
We want to find out what's on Mars, basically.
Let me give you an example of that just quickly before we go on.
I wrote about it in Opening Mind.
The next time you're talking, Carrie, I'll turn up this background.
I realize it's kind of a hybrid background.
The Hale-Bopp incident.
Do you remember this?
Yeah.
Okay, I was involved with the Hale-Bopp viewings.
One of the viewers happened to be at my residence, and we were called to do one of the sessions.
It was blind, so we didn't know what we were viewing.
I knew the target, but the viewer didn't.
And she did not get anything following the comet.
She got a lot of things related to comets, but she didn't get an object there.
But the story that got out was that we had seen an object following Hale-Bob, you know, something four times the size of the Earth.
You know, you're familiar with the story.
And people ended up taking their own lives in that cult, the Heaven Gates cult, over this.
So it's very important to me that they, from that story alone, because people are very sensitive to this information, and it's important information, that it be accurate, just so you don't have people doing extreme things.
Because when Hale-Bopp showed up, there was no object following it.
I looked at it with a telescope.
There was nothing there.
So you can also create storylines, folks.
I just have to tell you this from someone who's done this.
I still teach RV. I've been involved with it for 25 years.
You can create storylines.
You can create group storylines.
But sometimes you create very accurate stuff.
So it's just a mix.
That's all I'm saying, Matt.
Okay.
It's just a mix.
Okay.
Well, let's just...
Kerry, do you have anything to add to that?
Because I want to put on our parkas and get on down to Antarctica.
Sure, sure.
Anything, Kerry?
Are you still there?
All right.
Well, I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I thought I was muted.
Anyway, so people are having a big problem with the background that Simon has going on there.
So if he can turn it off, that'd be awesome, unless he's trying to hide something in his immediate vicinity.
But whatever.
I think that makes you look like the Wizard of Oz, kind of, you know?
Okay.
It's just the whole background's shaking.
It doesn't look very good on Zoom, in case you can't notice, and people are having issues with it.
So...
For what it's worth.
Now, I just want to say that people that commit suicide because of a remote viewing or whatever, that's on them, and that's a soul who's going to do what they're going to do.
So you cannot fault remote viewing or Or the process or anything they find.
And as far as something following Hale-Bopp, actually, there may have been something following Hale-Bopp.
I don't remember the exact situation, but I can tell you that, of course, they're not going to report it in the mainstream and it's going to be part of the secret space program.
So you're never going to get real verification of that, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
So, you know, there's so much to this story.
In terms of what's secret, what's the level of secrecy, how much they're going to let out, how much they don't, how much disinfo they put out on top of it, and there's even misdirection that can take place.
But it's awesome, Simeon, that you spent 25 years teaching remote viewing.
That's certainly saying something.
So, you must be quite a good remote viewer on your own, you know.
And so, that's great.
And I'd love to hear more about that when we get an opportunity.
But this is Matthew's show.
So, Matthew, I just want to say that about Hale-Bopp.
So, go ahead.
Alright, well thank you because that's, you know, Simeon is a tantamount scientist and from the very first time I started following Simeon, I kept waiting for him when he's talking about crop circles to make that leap, you know, as you know, but Simeon does what Simeon does and it's science and that's what a scientist does and I understand that.
So, Timmy, we don't want to put your reputation or anything on the line, but we're going to start talking about Antarctica.
And Carrie and I have discussed a video called, what is it?
Aliens, Antarctica Aliens Under the Ice?
Melinda or Linda Moulton Howe.
Carrie, did you have a chance to see that?
I've seen part of it.
And I have heard some of her whistleblower testimony on that anyway.
So I can comment on it.
But, you know, it's, I mean...
time to prepare for this show today because this kind of happened like yesterday, I think.
But anyway, just want to say that it's not really for me to comment on her video or her witnesses.
I can tell you some things that I heard from her witnesses.
And I think, you know, Linda's an excellent researcher and doc, you know, she documents, incredible testimony and has been doing this for even longer than I've been And I've been doing it for 16 years.
So Linda has been on the scene, you know, for a very long time.
So I have to say she's got great witnesses and very interesting testimony.
I have my own testimony that I can speak to.
Okay, well, can we just get a, what is in Antarctica?
First of all, on Linda Moulton Howe's thing, and Simeon, are you familiar with that?
No, this isn't something I've really looked into all that much.
I mean, I read things that you guys read, and I see things, and I watch videos, but it's not my specialty.
I don't have any special information about it.
Okay, and have you ever remote viewed anything in Antarctica?
I can't remember having viewed Antarctica.
I can't remember.
What do you think about the information that's coming out of Antarctica?
Well, going back to the Admiral Byrd reports and so forth, all the way back to 50s, we've had some indication that something is going on there that's unusual.
And my feeling overall is that we don't really understand what's going on on our own planet, even in locales that are a lot closer to all of us than Antarctica.
So I'm open to information and evidence that comes forth from there.
That's what I would say.
Okay, then let's start there.
Admiral Byrd's expedition.
Do you think that that is credible, that they were attacked by something that forced them to turn around?
I mean, that's what he said, didn't he?
I've heard some reports that he might have been confused.
I mean, this is what I've heard at Red, that there was something there, planes that could fly pole to pole without refueling.
Is that a quote from him?
Yeah, but that doesn't mention, he didn't mention anything about, yeah, we got our butts kicked by some spaceships.
So, but you think that something did happen?
No, I have heard reports that that's what he said.
I haven't gone through to vet it, and I've heard other presentations that seem to present another point of view, but that's my familiarity with the information that goes back many decades.
All right, Kerry.
Over to you.
Now, what happened in 1947?
First of all, the British were attacked in 1946.
And then we sent a fleet down.
So what do you know about what happened?
Okay, well, I have sort of a compendium of stuff that I can talk about.
First of all, I have whistleblowers who have been there.
And talk about a certain command and control center that exists down there.
I've got testimony that basically correlates having to do with certain individuals such as John Kerry, such as the Roman Catholic priest from Russia going down there, as well as certain other people, even during the Kennedy assassination.
So Antarctica is a very complex story.
And there's reason to believe that there may be a command and control center over this planet down there.
And I can also say that my whistleblowers talk about the fact that the whole globe is surveilled and that now Antarctica is one of the few areas on Earth where satellites and various things don't necessarily go.
They go from there, but they don't necessarily look at it.
So there's a certain degree.
Level of secrecy.
So ET races are able to go down and meet with humans in meeting places and so on, and with other ET races under the surveillance net that is basically encompassing our globe at this time.
So Antarctica, on top of it, there is an author and his name is, now I have it here, Greenius.
It's kind of a strange last name.
And he wrote a series of books about Antarctica.
And Linda Moulton Howell had a witness.
And one of the books is called Raising Atlantis.
And there's another one called...
I forget the name of it, actually.
But it's got Atlantis in the title.
He's got a whole series of books.
And his name is Thomas Grinius.
And you can get them on Amazon.
But What happened with at least one of those books that goes into detail about an exploration of Atlantis and it's fiction based on fact.
And so what happened was that the secret agencies took down his paperback, wouldn't allow him to post a paperback book, but they did allow him to post the Kindle.
For some reason, which is a bit strange, but nonetheless.
And that it is said to contain a great deal of truth about actually what they are finding down in Atlantis.
Or, sorry, Antarctica.
Now, there's a lot of evidence for Atlantis in Antarctica.
And I've gotten other testimony since that time to that effect.
But it's, you know, it's not specific.
It's not that specific.
So...
You know, you find these things, monuments, and there's a whole city underground.
And they're basically going there, because this is the last time that ETs and humans walked on the Earth together, okay, with full, you know, being conscious, was in Atlantis.
So that's, in essence, what's under the ice in Antarctica.
You know, and All I can say is there's more to the story, but yes, I mean, I had William Tompkins who talked about Admiral Byrd losing the battle and basically having to turn around and leave with what were, in essence, appeared to be not only the Nazis, but the Nazis were backed by the Beings from Aldebaran.
And that goes back to World War II, and why the Nazis were actually tapped to begin with.
You know, and I once asked, I think it might have been Tompkins, like, why did they, why that society, why Germans, why did they go, you know, to them?
And I was told that they were the most Conducive and already prepped society that could deal with space travel.
And so this off-planet race from Aldebaran basically went in and dealt with the Nazis.
Of course, everyone knows about the real society and Maria Orsic and all of that.
So then there was also the The Pleiadians, according to William Tompkins, you know, if you want to believe his testimony.
Now he's like, I don't know.
I can't remember.
It was something like 94 years old when I interviewed him.
I interviewed him for three hours.
He went on Gaia TV, you know, for episode after episode.
But in three hours, I got like an amazing testimony from him.
Enough that when I was supposed to do my second interview with him, He got a call the night before basically telling him, never speak to me.
And then he called me and said, never call him, never speak to him again.
And all I'd done was make a second interview.
So I know that what he was going to talk to me about was actually the pedophilia and how rampant it is on planet Earth now and so on and so forth.
And that is, of course, now making it to the surface The Epstein story and so on and so forth.
So, you know, in essence, and Bob Wood, Dr.
Robert Wood, who worked for TRW for God knows how long, was the editor on William Tompkins' book.
Now, if you understand anything, you would know that Dr.
Robert Wood would not be wasting his time with William Tompkins.
And they were both Navy, by the way.
And the Navy was basically handling Tompkins.
And bringing him forward.
And he was hoping to get reverse age for himself and his family in exchange for his doing his sort of duty by disclosing a certain amount to the people out there.
So this is really what went on.
So when you get back to Atlantis, I'm afraid that I don't have, interestingly enough, I don't have people who have come forward To talk about Atlantis the way Linda has.
Okay.
Now you have to look at that and say, well, why did those particular people decide to go with Linda?
And how much did they really say?
And so on and so forth.
I do know that there's also another story I have to do with That has to do with a book called New Berlin that was based on the Nazi base in New Berlin, called New Berlin down in Antarctica.
That was incredibly thick and that we, okay, that MUFON in Germany got hold of, was dropped off by Well, I think the writer.
And he had been mind controlled, but he'd been down in New Berlin and he was relating his experience down there.
And the fact that the Nazis were alive and well and operational down there, etc.
Now, he was under threat and the MUFON people were too scared to release it.
So Project Hamlet did release it.
And since that time, you know, it contained a lot of anomalous writings and things that were almost stream of consciousness.
And so people tended not to believe his testimony.
But I'm a remote viewer and I'm a psychic even more so.
And I do get excellent information that does turn out to be true.
So as far out as it can be, I actually get verification in the real world, and it's continuing to happen to me all the time now.
So all I can say is that it's served me very well over the years, and there was a lot of truth in that book, but most people couldn't wade their way through it.
So that's kind of, I mean, I don't have any really hard whistleblower other than William Tompkins on Antarctica, and I'm sure that's by design.
There is another story.
I mean, I have these bits and pieces.
So I have another intelligence agent who verified a story that has to do with what was found under the Kaaba in Saudi Arabia, where that is.
Anyway, and that this machine, as they called it, so to speak, was then transported with this Russian Roman Catholic priest, By boat down to Antarctica.
And that's, for some reason, how they treated it.
What exactly that machine, so to speak, was, I don't know.
But we have multiple testimonies on that that do coincide for what it's worth.
Boy, there's so many things you could say, but you just don't want to say when it comes to that.
All right, well, so Kerry and Simeon, let's just start with the Admiral Byrd thing.
Is there some...
Kerry, you seem to think there's some credence to that.
And Simeon, I guess, also.
So my question is, if in 1947 these people attacked Admiral Byrd, And they were Nazis.
Where did they go?
Are they still there?
And is there like a line of demarcation?
Because in Linda Moulton Howe's video, at what she calls the pole, there's a football field-sized hole that they seem to think that things come in and out of.
So are the aliens still there, Carrie?
Of course.
I mean, my whistleblower testimony is recent, talking about the beings down there.
So, and New Berlin is, in other words, that book that I was talking about, The Threats, that came, that happened about, well, it was sometime in the last 16 years during Camelot, but I can also say that, you know, they've been down there long before that, and they continue to be down there, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay.
And then, okay, so this 2017 flash-frozen civilization found.
Was there anything to that?
Flash-frozen in Antarctica?
In Antarctica.
Okay, well, I haven't gotten to that part of her video, but...
Well, it's not in her video.
This was from 2017.
There were people, I don't want to mention any names, but flash-frozen civilization found, nine, ten foot tall, very thin human beings.
And I guess this is where...
Simeon, do you have any comment right now about any of the findings that...
I mean, we've had an octopus under Lake Vlostok that seems to think for itself and attack divers.
And Linda Moulton, how these special ops guys were inside this structure that was definitely not built by us.
And Courtney Brown and his people, remote-viewed, A spaceship, a UFO that was shot down, dead aliens inside, that's sitting there under the ice, and that they're looking at right now.
So, any...
Yeah, well...
Do you know about this or not?
Again, I've heard presentations...
I think I remember hearing Paul Stonehill talk about these, the diving incidents at Lake Vladivostok.
I've heard it.
I haven't investigated it for myself, but I just would say one caveat here.
When you do remote viewing, you can end up unintentionally viewing parallel realities.
They could be real in a parallel reality that we won't encounter.
Doesn't mean it's wrong.
It just means it's not our particular timeline.
The strength of RV is it kind of gives you this omniscience to see beyond your own particular place in space and time.
And you can view events and people and objects that have a lot of energy where there's a lot going on, but it's in a parallel reality.
So that's another thing you need to keep in mind that makes it a little more complex.
And I've been involved in sessions where that was the conclusion that it actually was a parallel reality, not the one we're in.
Doesn't mean it's not real.
It just means it's not ours.
Okay.
That's just a possibility.
Yep.
Before we jump, I kind of let you get away with this.
When you're talking about there's no verification, well, what happens when, okay, a remote viewer says, all right, I saw a spaceship, yeah, there's dead aliens on it, and then they find some, you know, exotic technology down there.
Isn't that kind of reaffirming the remote viewer's thing?
I mean...
They say it's like a magnetic anomaly.
It matches stuff.
I mean, because as I said, the government's not going to tell us.
So what we have is bits and pieces of what people can scrape together.
That's right.
If you get enough scrapings, then you kind of get something.
No, it's fascinating.
And we have sent people into UFOs many times, or they've inadvertently gone inside when they were just viewing it from the outside remotely.
And the things they encounter there are just fascinating.
And it's mind expanding.
And that's why I love these types of targets.
It almost challenges your vocabulary based on the technology we have to describe what you're experiencing there.
To me, that's the value of it.
Whether you can verify it in the end or not is another question.
But it gave the viewer an experience of something different, something they've never encountered in our particular reality.
And that's really fascinating.
It's really cool.
And that's sort of what makes it really fun to do.
But it doesn't mean that it's actually...
It's their interpretation of it, given the limitations of the human mind, our ability to describe things.
You know, there's that famous example.
Remember the Soviet bomber that a Libyan pilot defected with?
You're both familiar with this story.
It was Jimmy Carter tasked the RV group at Wright-Patterson and SRI. They were called up to find this missing, that was a backfire bomber, badger bomber, whatever it was, because the electronics in there were so valuable.
And they totally nailed it.
That's verification.
The viewer said, it's here.
The cue was a plane went down somewhere in Africa.
At least that's what Dale Graff told me.
That was the cue.
He was involved with the project.
And they narrow it.
Africa's such a huge continent.
They get it, narrow it, narrow it down.
They get it, and they send the Delta Force team in there.
They're just, like, almost right on top of it.
And to me, that's an incredible accomplishment.
But that's the type of verification you get.
We don't all have those resources available to any of us as researchers to send someone over to Antarctica to look.
So it just has to remain an open question in my mind.
All right.
Okay.
So...
And not to cut you off, but let's just establish this, and I think that you would back me up.
Joe, or Courtney Brown, and I think Kerry will back me up as well.
Courtney Brown learned from Major Ed Dames, right?
That's correct.
Major Ed Dames was employed by the U.S. military.
The U.S. government had enough faith in people like Major Dames and Joe McMonigle that they spent a lot of money Investigating what they said, right?
Or as you say, confirming what they remote viewed.
But let's just establish that, you know, and Kerry talked about track records.
These people have track records.
I mean, so why I'm saying this is because now I want to go to Mars and I want to go to Joe McMoneagle's testimony.
So...
Carrie, anybody?
I don't want to sit here and tell everybody what they already know, but what is your...
I guess we'll start with Carrie.
Carrie, what is your take on Joe McMoneagle's testimony?
And if you don't really remember, that's fine.
There's a lot of detail.
Actually, you know, I don't.
I don't remember his testimony specifically.
I can say that basically I've read one of his books.
Maybe two of his books.
But he's very, very good.
I don't know.
He didn't seem to do that much testimony off-planet, as far as I remember.
But maybe it's just not public.
I can say that I do have, you know, I don't know, you know, back in the Camelot in the early days, we had Henry Deacon, who came out under his own name, Arthur Neumann.
Arthur Neumann worked on Mars and he went through a jump gate to get there and came back multiple times.
We got to know him very well.
He was extremely well vetted.
That's all I can tell you.
He went on stage with me in Barcelona after Bob Dean spoke about what went on on Mars and some of the evidence that was out there, etc.
Admitted that he had worked on Mars and I was on stage with him and Bob Dean.
Shortly after that, he was shut up and he basically went to ground, as they say, and he's never really come forward.
Well, he came forward one other time, which was to speak at one of my conferences where I flew him out and he talked more about that experience of working on Mars.
So I have a testimony that's recorded that's on Vimeo on one of our conferences called Time Travel in Other Worlds that a lot of people have maybe not seen, but it costs like all of like $3 or something.
And we also have the testimony, of course, of Bob Dean, who is a whistleblower going way back for multiple years, talking about what was going on on Mars, the bases there.
We've got Randy Kramer talking about his experience working and fighting aliens on Mars.
And I've met Randy and interviewed him.
And he is the real thing.
He still works as a Marine.
And so on.
So there's a lot of testimony about Mars.
And I... What can I say?
I've also remote viewed both the Moon and Mars in a small amount.
And I took a class from Ed Daines in the very early days.
Just one class.
And he said that I was correct in what I saw on...
I think that was on Mars.
And so, you know, it's not that hard to do to remote view something and eventually...
You can get verification in certain ways.
For example, I remote viewed the moon.
And Richard Hoagland came forward sort of as a whistleblower from NASA and all of that, as people may know.
And I've interviewed him numerous times.
I think he's still out there with his radio show right now.
But at any rate, he talked about the glass, what appeared to be glass-like structures on Mars.
And I actually put that into a screenplay Years before I got into Camelot and having remote viewed Mars as, I mean, the moon as part of a screenplay that I was writing.
So, you know, there are ways to get hits that might come surprisingly or synchronicities, you know, in that way about information that you get.
Now, as far as our whistleblowers, I mean, we have various other people that have testified to being, you know, encountering Working on the bases on Mars and so on.
So there's a great deal right now of testimony out there.
Now you can question it, of course, but take it for what it's worth.
So is there something specific, you know, because Henry Deacon told us the various things, you know, tunnels and various things.
There's a certain individual that we were in a Camelot television show that we're supposed to It's called Shadow Operations that we have on our website that's still available to view.
It was a television show that was like the show with...
What's his name?
Oh, God.
Leonard Demoy.
Sorry?
Leonard Demoy in search of?
No, no.
Conspiracy Theory, Jesse Ventura.
So Jesse Ventura had a show on television and then they tapped me and my partner back in the early days.
To do a complimentary show that was going to include aliens.
Because at the time, Jesse didn't want to deal with alien testimony, testimony about aliens.
And we had plenty of whistleblowers in that area.
So we did one pilot episode that was about Mars, as it happens.
And we had Hoagland on our show, and we had Robert Dean, and we had lots of other people.
So...
I guess I need something a little more specific, but tell me about Mars.
Let's jump over to Simeon because Simeon wrote about Joe McMoneagle in his book.
Simeon, you know what he found on Mars, right?
I did a lot of RV of Mars, too.
It was a target we did at Farsight a lot, and I've assigned it to viewers that I've taught many times just to see if they come up with the same sorts of information.
And it's absolutely fascinating what you get when you view Mars.
Some of the targets included the face on Mars, the pyramid structures, civilizations that have been there, might still be there.
And things like that.
So it's something actually I've had experience with.
I can't remember off the top of my head.
I've seen Joe lecture many times, but I didn't prepare ahead of time to go all through the details.
This came up in a presentation he gave recently.
Why don't you refresh our memory and then I can comment on it.
Yeah, let me do that.
Okay, so Joe McMonagle, 1975, is tasked to remote view Mars.
He ends up going back, you know, he goes there, he says, well, there's a...
Pyramid here, but nothing's really going on.
We'll go back to when the pyramid was built.
He goes back a million years, and he finds these people that are basically hibernating, and they're waiting for somebody to return.
What happened to you?
Comet came by, stripped off our atmosphere.
And so we sent people somewhere, and this is, I guess, the gist of the story.
I think they sent people to Earth.
And, well, what did these people look like on Mars?
They're very tall, very thin, about nine feet tall.
And so, again, when you start looking for that confirmation, and you hear back when they were talking about a flash, frozen civilization, oh, really?
Nine feet tall, ten feet tall, very thin people.
And they just came here, developed a civilization, a culture out of nowhere.
And so I just wonder, and I'm a lot like you, Simeon.
I really do look for confirmation because there's so many places you can go, but that's kind of confirmation.
If you get, you know, you got two kind of really bizarre stories that kind of fit each other.
And so my question is, It is part of the history of the universe, or the solar system anyway.
A million years ago, people lived on Mars.
They got wiped out by a comet or whatever, and they had to come here.
Is that the story of our Earth?
So that's really what we're doing here, because as we find out what's going on in Antarctica, Maybe we're looking at a very old history and a history that, you know, are these Atlanteans?
Are these the people that made us?
So we don't know where it goes.
So that's what Joe McMoneagle said.
And that's why I say, is there some connection between, you know, Mars and Antarctica?
So any thoughts?
Okay.
Well, I also want to remind you of our testimony from Bariska, the boy from Mars, who, at less than seven years old, started telling his mother and everyone he knew that he was from Mars and that he had come here, that they were teleported here, and that they'd been in a war, and they had been trying to turn Jupiter into a second sun, which in some places...
In the secret space program, they actually talk about trying to do that even now.
And they, I guess, failed at that time.
But yes, they were wiped out by war and a civilization that, you know, they use planetoids as like bowling balls to crash into other...
And that's also what happened with at least one of the sinkings of Atlantis, as well as what went on in Mars.
And so...
It's sad to have gotten rid of the atmosphere in that way.
So, you know, he actually had all kinds of recall about being a soldier on Mars, this little kid, and then he started walking, you know, going, he went around The streets of this small town and his mother testified that he had no way of having gotten this information from anywhere else that you know and they were quite poor and they didn't have access to you know this is years ago now in Project Camelot back in actually 2009 so
and I interviewed him when he was turning I think 13 so he had been you know he was growing out of that and he still had his memories but he was starting to Become part of the regular world around him.
And I don't know what's happened to him since then, but I know he had a handler back then who was a scientist.
And his name was Witkowski.
I think Witkowski, if I remember, but I could have that wrong.
But it's on the video.
And that's actually the most famous Camelot video.
And we went to Russia and interviewed him in person.
That's the first video I ever saw of yours.
Okay, so just wanting to say that he was considered kind of a national treasure, if you will, and kept very close at hand by the Russian government.
So even to this day, since he hasn't come forward again, by the way.
So yeah, I mean...
There is a lot going on on Mars, I can say.
I can say Duncan O'Finion, the super soldier, didn't talk about anything directly with Mars, other than to say that he recalled Mars very well.
And for some reason, it would get him very emotional when brought up in a conversation.
And one wonders if that was because their civilization was, at that point, destroyed, the surface civilization.
By what happened.
So and there is lots of evidence that the Anunnaki, one branch of the Anunnaki that had been coming to Earth also went to Mars.
And I think that actually is the Marduk portion of the Anunnaki, not necessarily the best leader, by the way, you know, a very diabolical.
But nonetheless, and there was evidence that he came here, was returned to Earth, and perhaps he's even here now.
There was evidence that he flew in over these certain islands out in this area in the Pacific, I forget what it's called, and that Obama was there, and then they had a meeting in In Africa, that was attended by a lot of heads of state.
So there's a lot to do with Mars in our civilization and the Anunnaki, that's what they're called, the ones that are the nine-foot-tall certain beings related to that.
And there's a direct connection between Cydonia on Mars and Cydonia.
And the Giza Plateau, as you may know, and so on.
Okay.
So, yeah, there's a lot of different places that we can go.
The guys that Linda Moulton Howe interviewed, Spartan 1 and Spartan 2, described these People kind of like the Anunnaki.
And, you know, I'm not a real Anunnaki expert, but I understand they're tall and that they're physically stronger than we are.
They're bigger than we are.
And they seated us.
So I get an image of that first Aliens.
You know, what's the first Alien movie?
Not the Alien, but, you know, the one that he did later on.
James Cameron?
No, the movie...
Ridley Scott?
Prometheus.
Okay.
So, and that being in Prometheus, that the dead alien, that he kind of sounds like these Mars people, the Anunnaki people.
So, maybe there's a connection there.
And I don't want to get too far out into left field.
So, Simeon, can I go back and ask you, your remote viewers looked at Mars?
Did you find, well, Simeon, I'm sorry.
Let me just establish one thing.
Joe McMoneagle remote viewed in 75.
The rover went there in 76.
Mars, Viking, whatever.
So when you start to hear about Blasaggio and people stargating to Mars, it's in the 80s.
So, with that timeline, and I don't know that it's correct or anything, what did your remote viewers see, Simeon, and what was the time that they were looking at?
Well, I should say, first off, that Joe McMonagle was the one who told me to be cautious about all of these targets.
I've talked to him, he's presented at UFO conferences, and in personal conversation, and in his presentations, you watch them, he will say, You know, like the Pat Price sessions where there are these big mountains and Pat had viewed, you know, Mount Hayes in Alaska, for example, Joe viewed it and got an over-the-horizon radar station.
Now, that doesn't mean that Pat wasn't right about some of it.
It just means Joe got something different and he encouraged me to be a little cautious on these types of targets.
Nonetheless, when we viewed them, when I viewed them back at the Farsight Institute back in 96, and then I later gave these same targets to other viewers at my Mount Baldy Institute here in Boulder, Colorado, it's always the same sort of information, just like you've recounted.
Now, does that mean it's accurate or are we viewing a story or, again, a parallel reality?
But there is, I will say, there is consistency amongst the viewers, even from Joe.
Over the years, and that's just really interesting.
Does it mean it's actually what's there?
I'd like to know.
Just as an example, very quickly, the reason there's a crop circle on the front of my book is that was a target that we viewed in 1996, back at Farsight, before I even knew what a crop circle was.
When we were given the target feedback, I said, crop what?
What's a crop circle?
So I went over there the next summer with a fellow named Ron Russell, who was giving tours.
And lo and behold, we found lots of anomalies in and around crop circles, which keeps me going back there to this day.
So this was something that I could view.
The session revealed a lot of really strange sorts of information, energy, Realities that I couldn't make sense of.
So I say, my idea was, let's go visit it.
And in visiting it, we had our cameras stop working, compasses spin around, all sorts of interesting things, even in the ones we later made ourselves as tests, just For, you know, scientific reasons with the farmer's permission, we still had strange things happen.
So that's a case where you could view it ahead of time, get the feeling there's something anomalous going on there.
You go all the way over there, you check it out, and it confirms your session.
So that's the sort of thing that really ultimately needs to happen to have, you know, 100% confident in your session, Matt.
But until then, it's just very interesting, and you can give more viewers these sorts of sessions, see if they get it, and wait for the evidence to come in.
At some point, it will come in, and then we can find out.
Captain Mark Richards has been talking about Mars for many years, and He has been a member of the Secret Space Program since he was a boy.
And his testimony is all about going off planet.
And, you know, Mars would just be one of the many planets and that we are colonizing the moons of Saturn, for example, and other places.
So, in other words, the testimonies that I get on the Secret Space Program side would say...
Duh, we have a base on Mars.
Duh, we're doing all kinds of stuff there.
It's not only confirmed, it's a reality.
Now, if you want to step back and say that you haven't been able to go there and get the evidence and so on and so forth personally, that's probably true.
But just for what it's worth, once you start listening to certain people and you start getting, you're even saying, a compendium of information that does coincide.
And these people don't know each other, okay?
And they aren't aware of each other's testimony and so on and so forth.
And so kind of being a centralization point for these 16 years on this and very many other topics, I can say that a lot of the testimony comes into me and then I'm seeing all the All the similarities in the testimony and the correlations, etc.
So this is basically the best we can do at this moment without ourselves going, you know, there.
But, you know, it's so plentiful and the witnesses are so impeccable that they're, you know, I would say it's a done deal.
But, you know, in your world, It might still be in the land of Maybe it's real and maybe it's not.
Well, wait a minute, Carrie.
I'm not going to let you save Simeon because...
All right.
So you said that Joe McMoneagle...
I asked you what you found, first of all, and you skirted around the question with your caveat.
And Joe McMoneagle said, oh, yeah, be careful about what you...
Don't put too much credence in it.
Well, a year later, after Joe McMoneagle...
Remote viewed a pyramid on Mars.
How crazy is that?
Viking found the same pyramid on a crater.
So he obviously got his confirmation.
So, Simeon, do you want to tell us what you found on Mars?
Well, yeah.
You know, first of all, the viewers that I've trained, I deal with the public.
These are people that just come in off the street that are interested in this topic.
These are not people that are necessarily of Joe McMonagle or Ingo Swann's caliber.
Okay.
These are just average people.
So we need to take that into consideration when we look at what they got.
But they got sort of similar phenomena.
You know, another civilization...
Being there, something happening to the atmosphere, perhaps from an asteroid.
I didn't have time to review the sessions before our interview here because I didn't know we were going to be talking about that.
But my recollection is that what they got is very similar to what many of us have viewed over the years.
But having said that, it was Joe McMonagle when I asked him about this.
I said there's so much consistency amongst the viewers.
He said it doesn't matter.
It can still be wrong.
That's what Joe said.
He gave me examples from the military program where everyone viewed the same thing incorrectly.
You can end up I'm not saying that this is happening in this instance, but as a scientist, I need to consider all the possibilities for what's explaining the consistency of the data.
That's another thing that needs to be taken into account.
And it was Joe who was the one who actually reminded me of that.
All right, that's it.
Simeon, let's go to something that is a little bit more tangible.
The Phobos missions.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so no remote viewing here.
Two missions sent to Mars, and one of them blinks out right before it takes a picture of, I guess, Phobos?
Is that right?
It's taking a picture of Phobos?
Yeah, it was taking a picture of Phobos and there's a huge craft in the photo before it blanks out.
That's what happened, yeah.
Okay, but not only that, also before that happened, a picture of Mars with a huge craft in the shadow.
And then the heat signatures of something underground.
Okay, so does our remote viewing, is any of that stuff confirmed by this physical evidence?
Well, what you could say is it's just consistent with the physical evidence.
I don't think you can say it confirms it.
And the reason is, Matt, and I think you can understand this, we have a pretty high standard in science of repeatability, and we need to have that.
I'm not against that.
We have evidence that points in that direction.
We have the photos from the Phobos craft that was, you know, the Russian craft that was taking the pictures, and then it goes offline.
I remember viewing this target myself.
It was one of the targets we were given.
You get things that are similar to what we've been told happened there.
You know, that a craft interfered with one of our spacecrafts.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I'm sure those things happen.
Is it absolute confirmation?
I'll never say that without more sessions.
What you need to understand is that to do RV takes a lot of resources.
Ideally, you would like to have many viewers view these targets over a period of time under controlled circumstances to really see what they're getting.
We don't all have those resources available to us to just have viewers view this over and over again.
So you do it over the years with your groups of Intermediate and advanced viewers.
And it's really fun to see that they come up with the same sort of thing.
If it turns out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised.
I just can't go there beyond that 60-70% level of confidence.
That's all I'll say.
Okay, well, I can say that Henry Deacon, Arthur Neumann, talked about FOBOS containing a command and control center where Anunnaki were working alongside our humans in the space program.
That's his testimony.
And that's, again, many years ago, actually right around the beginning of Camelot.
So you could say, not 16, but 15 years ago.
And then on top of it, there is an actual history of spacecraft getting close to Mars and either being shot down or having something go wrong with them so they can't complete their mission.
So there's also that.
So, you know, and it's beyond, you know, when they do, I don't know, ratios and percentages of possibility, you know, it goes beyond that.
So, something is going on up there, I think you might say, if you want to look at those kind of, that type of evidence, rather than whistleblower testimony.
Okay.
Well, you know, when we started our little inquiry here, what I was looking at was, I'm looking at, I love history, and I'm looking at trying to track down some kind of a timeline of the, not so much the galaxy, because that could get real complicated, but just the solar system.
Who built the stuff on Mars?
What is Courtney Brown remote viewing on, what's the moon, Iapetus?
They remote viewed a resort on Iapetus.
So who built this stuff?
When did they build it?
What happened to them?
So, you know, I think that when you hear these debates, etc., etc., people just want to look at the piecemeal things, but nobody's compiling all of the data and assembling a picture.
Of what happened in the solar system.
And I think that if you were to know the truth, the Star Wars things, especially the initial ones, they might not have happened in a galaxy far, far away.
They may have happened right here just a few million years ago.
So anyway...
Kerry, I've had a wonderful time.
I certainly don't want to keep you.
I don't know what your time frame is, but I think now would probably be a good time to stop the show.
Before we go, I would really like to thank Kerry.
For having me on as a host.
This is like hosting the Tonight Show, you know?
So I really appreciate you doing that.
And Simeon, thank you so much for being on here.
And I would, I'd like to say thanks to Kerry too, because Kerry introduced me to Bob Dean.
And Bob Dean is someone I got to know.
I think he was one of the first interviews I saw of yours.
I got to know him over the years at the conferences.
Eventually he was on our board of directors for the Institute for Resonance.
And I will always treasure my conversations with Bob Dean, asking him all the details about what he experienced working over there in shape at NATO headquarters and things that he never revealed publicly that just proved to me the veracity of what he was saying.
So I'd like to thank you for doing all these interviews.
Cool.
Well, you know, Bob Dean is someone very close to my heart.
So thank you.
You know, he's a wonderful, wonderful man.
And wherever he is, I hope he's in, you know, good health and he's happy.
So anyway, well, what can I say?
We are the aliens who we've been waiting for and we're related to all of them.
And there are so many humanoid races and a lot of them are here now.
And I think it's, you know, it's fun to look at all of this from various perspectives and, you know, nothing wrong with bringing in the scientific method.
As long as you don't let it blind you, then I think you're going to be fine.
So yeah, it's a lot of fun to talk to both of you.
And Simeon, love to have you as a guest on my show.
I'm sorry I wasn't familiar with your work, but would like to hear more about you.
So we'll bring you on as a guest if you're interested in the future.
And Matthew, we've had you as a guest, but we could certainly have you back sometime in the future.
Great, Carrie.
Thanks a lot for having me on and letting me do this.
Sure.
All right.
Thanks, everyone, for watching.
And this will be on Matthew's channel.
It'll be on my channel.
And hopefully it's, you know, what they consider palatable for YouTube, so they won't try to give me a strike on it.
So I think we'll be all right.
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