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July 28, 2020 - Project Camelot

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KERRY INTERVIEWED BY HANNIBAL TV: DEVON RICHARDSON

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'm here to do an interview with Hannibal TV and I'm going to be interviewed here by Devin Nicholson and I'm going to put this interview also on my channel and he'll have it out on his channel as well.
	And I want to thank him very much for interviewing me.
	This is Hannibal from TheHannibalTV.com and today I'm going to be doing an interview related to UFOs slash unidentified aerial phenomenon as well as some other subjects with Carrie Cassidy who is from Project Camelot,
	a very popular YouTube channel that was recommended to me by a lot of people to watch when I first became interested in this subject.
	She travels all over the world doing interviews with Whistleblowers and various experts in the UFO field and other fields, but we'll let her tell you more about that.
	She just came back from an extended trip to, I believe, you were in Turkey and other places over in Europe.
	How are you doing today?
	I'm real good.
	How are you?
	I'm doing as good as I can with all the restrictions on us these days.
	Great.
	Yeah, it's a crazy time.
	So I can say that I went traveling just to prove that you could, in part, and did get an interview done in Turkey, which was good, and also talked to some people in the UK, etc.
	So I like to see the lay of the land for myself, and there's a lot of rumors out there and a lot of craziness, and I can tell you more detail if you're interested.
	Sure, you can tell us the detail of your latest trip to start off with.
	Why not?
	Okay well just wanted people to know because I was going to actually I was headed to Corfu where I went a year ago and came across this very interesting Empress Cece who has a beautiful estate there and she kind of she's actually from I think Hungary and Austria first but At any rate,
	she ended up loving Corfu and built a house there and so on.
	But she was something of a rebel from the Illuminati, and that's what I'm interested in, in tracing the real story of her rebellion and also her subsequent murder.
	And why that happened, whether it was a targeted assassin or what.
	But we never were able to get to Corfu this time.
	We were going to do some location scouting.
	I was going to see if I could find some local people to talk to, etc.
	And that is because of the European Union closing their doors to American tourists.
	And the way it happened was kind of disjointed.
	Greece had agreed to allow American tourists...
	Initially, and then all of a sudden decided to side with the European Union.
	I think they were paid off, you know, in money, which they need desperately to do that.
	Because in order to do that, they had to turn away tourists, obviously, and they need income.
	As you know, Greece has been hit very hard, even since 2008.
	And we went there also to Athens and saw the boarded-up stores and everything.
	And it looks basically like we look now...
	Back then.
	So they definitely want tourists over there.
	So it's really by having their arms twisted by the European Union that they had to close their doors to American tourists.
	And that created a problem for me.
	So I was stuck at the airport, me and my partner, and we had the choice to either go back to his place in the UK or to...
	Try to find somewhere else to go right then and there.
	And so I did enjoy Turkey in the past and so decided to take a quick trip over to Turkey.
	And that is what we did and did some investigation and some video blogs and so on and a very interesting interview.
	update with farah yuduzu who is a wonderful ufo and a sort of archaeological investigator over there who's often on turkish tv as it happens so we we got to do that and i'll be releasing that shortly so that's what was going on over there but i want to say that i also didn't get stopped stopped at the airports uh or tested except in turkey they test your temperature
	even when you go in restaurants so had my temperature test tested constantly every day everywhere we went But in Britain, they only spot tested people at the airport on the way back.
	And when I first arrived in Britain, I didn't get tested at all in any way.
	And that was no problem.
	As an American going into the UK, but I was told to self-quarantine for 14 days, which I did, more or less, and then we went to Turkey from there, and then I came back to the UK for like a day and flew back to the US. So it was kind of jam-packed that whole time, but I did get a chance to really see the lay of the land.
	When I came back to the US, they were asking questions, so they ask you these questions, Kind of nonsensical questions.
	And they insist on masks, of course.
	I didn't wear a mask on the plane the whole way over or the whole way back.
	Basically because, you know, they're cool once you're sitting down and they're flying.
	As long as you put it on in the very beginning.
	And we were, like, I was a huge number of seats away from other people because the plane was so empty on the way over and the way back.
	So that's also, there's no reason to have a mask if you're well over six feet away from everyone.
	And a lot of people don't realize that.
	But the mask is useless even if you were standing right next to somebody, as everyone has said in all of the doctors and the information I have come across today.
	And I've done a terrific amount of investigation on this And the bottom line is that the particles of, if you want to call this, you know, so-called COVID virus, are tiny, but whatever it is, it's very, very tiny and much smaller than any mask could do.
	You'd have to actually cut your breathing off to cut off the particles.
	So you're doing no good whatsoever by wearing a mask.
	In fact, you're doing harm to yourself.
	And that has to do with your ability to breathe, Breathing in your own carbon dioxide and all of the sort of byproducts that you breathe in and out every day and that sort of thing.
	So this is how crazy times are, but it's very sad.
	I think stupidity more than anything else rules the day because...
	You can have people telling you from the government and medical professionals.
	And if you can't use your own mind to make logical sense out of your reality, then you're in real trouble.
	And consequently, we're in real trouble.
	Because most people don't even care to listen to the doctors that are telling them the real truth.
	And they only listen to the CDC and the WHO, which are lying to them day in and day out.
	And they are getting all the wrong information and it's a very sad state we're in at the moment.
	Now for people that don't know about your background, obviously you're an investigator.
	You're kind of off the board with your investigations, but what is some of your educational background and what is Project Camelot for people that don't know and the work that you've been doing over the past numerous years?
	Sure.
	Well, I am, let's see, I have a BA in English, graduate work in sociology, the equivalent of an, I went into an MBA executive program at UCLA, and I also graduated from the UCLA extension graduate, this program, film and TV, as a writer, director, producer.
	So I studied, I also worked in Hollywood for 20 years, and then I made a transition to working actually as a communication consultant at JPL, NASA, and I did that for a few years and eventually made my transition into being an independent producer, packaging projects on my own, and trying to get those made in Hollywood.
	At that point, I reached kind of a glass ceiling and And decided to pick up my consumer-grade camcorder and shoot my own documentaries specifically about UFOs and these kinds of controversial subjects.
	And I did have a background in college.
	I studied journalism and wrote for the college paper and that sort of thing and did interviews, as a matter of fact, way back then.
	And I never imagined it would become my actually official...
	And independent production, but that's what happened.
	And I teamed up at that point with somebody I interviewed, Bill Ryan, and he had a background in, well, a variety of things.
	He was an executive coach at the time, and he was also bringing people down into caves.
	I think they call it spelunking, something like that.
	And he's kind of an Indiana Jones type.
	He grew up in Africa.
	As a kid and went trekking on his own.
	So he was quite adventurous in the sort of sports adventure area.
	But on top of it, he had gotten involved with RONZORG, which is a division of Scientology.
	That's supposedly somewhat rebellious and he was involved in putting a bunch of this stuff and making it available to all the public online.
	So he's a An enemy of the Scientologists.
	At any rate, we connected because he was representing the Serpo Project and I decided to interview him.
	So I went up to him with my consumer-grade camcorder to interview him at a conference, the UFO conference that happened in Laughlin back in those years.
	And this is 15 years ago.
	So we started Project Camelot.
	We teamed up together.
	And he stayed with Camelot for three years.
	At that point, we broke up our operations because we didn't...
	Initially, we agreed on all the people to interview, etc.
	And then we started to have creative differences on how we saw the world.
	So he went his way and I continued on Project Camelot.
	So he went on to Project Avalon and is still there to this day doing...
	For people called Project Avalon.
	I think it's.net is the URL. And I continued Project Camelot.
	And so I've been doing this steadily for 15 years.
	It's a labor of love.
	I interview people in all walks of life.
	I can interview, you know, doctors.
	I've interviewed quite a few doctors and will be doing more regarding this whole COVID thing, but I do, you know, scientists.
	And Above Top Secret really was our sort of Focus ever since the beginning to really bring out the secrets that are being kept from humanity, specifically dealing with the secret space program and alien visitation on Earth, as well as a lot of conspiracy-type information.
	They call it conspiracies.
	I would say it's conspiracy fact.
	As far as I'm concerned a conspiracy is when two or more people get together to plot nefarious deeds against the rest of humanity and that happens Every single day of the year.
	So, nothing strange about conspiracies.
	It's very, very common.
	All I do is investigate them, and I do interview the principals, usually, and try to get the story out by letting them tell the story in their own words.
	These are two-hour interviews as opposed to soundbites, so I really dig in deep, and I'm considered to be quite a controversial interviewer because I do have a certain method that I employ to break through what I consider to be programming. and I'm considered to be quite a controversial interviewer because
	So when somebody starts droning on in a programmed way, I interrupt them and try to bring them back on the subject and also throw questions at them that throw them off and try to cut through the nonsense and stuff.
	It works very well and a lot of people do enjoy it as well, my sort of subjects.
	So that's what I do and I shoot video interviews.
	I've gone around the world with a camera.
	Initially we went in person for the first year or two when we had some money.
	I had a small inheritance from my mother.
	That's what we lived on back then.
	Then we started asking for donations to continue the work and people stepped up because they liked it so much.
	I have a YouTube channel with Something like, I think it's 265,000 subscribers and over 68 million viewers worldwide.
	Yes, and it's a good YouTube channel.
	I was surprised to see they demonetized it recently.
	Was that because the content was so controversial that they deemed it unsuitable for advertisers?
	Yes, they completely demonetized me.
	I'm what you call a YouTube director.
	I was there in the very early days of YouTube.
	So I think they are hesitant to, and plus it's so huge of a channel, they're hesitant to actually delete my channel, even though they've done that to other people.
	In my case, they simply demonetized me, which means since I was relying on advertising income, That and donations to stay alive and pay my rent.
	It makes it very difficult, but I was able to create a subscription-based platform quickly because they did it overnight.
	I had no warning, nothing.
	They just all of a sudden demonetized me and sent me a message about it.
	And then that's the story.
	So right prior to that, they had been deleting donations.
	Every once in a while my video interviews, especially the ones if I do any interview with a doctor, if I talk to anyone about free energy or certain other topics, controversial, false flags, etc.
	Even over the years they have been doing these things called strikes initially and now lately they become even more of sort of a Gestapo-run organization, so now they just simply delete the video they don't like.
	So going into a subscription-based platform for a very low price, like $3 a month for a year, or $4 for a quarter, or $5 a month if you just want to do monthly, it basically allows me to protect my videos so that YouTube can't go in and delete them.
	And so that's what we're doing and also allows me to make enough money to pay my rent, etc., and continue the work.
	So that's what happened.
	And I'm sure you're aware of the big announcement last week where supposedly there's going to be officially released information soon about these off-world vehicles, not from this earth, from the U.S. government.
	What's your theory on why they're gonna come out with this information now?
	Well, I did see something, but I'm always skeptical of this kind of announcement because they've been, you know, to the Stars Academy.
	And I imagine that's who's putting it out, but I'm not sure.
	But, you know, they've been trying to leak this information in a very sanitized way just recently.
	And they put out the Tic Tac videos and all of that.
	Yeah.
	That is questionable as to whether it's actually ET-driven.
	It's more likely to be our super-secret space program vehicles.
	But nonetheless, they're showcasing them and they're trying to release this information to the public.
	I mean, Trump established this space force recently as, in a sense...
	To start releasing the information that we do have a hidden space force.
	And so that's nothing new, but the way Trump's doing it is to put that together.
	So, yes, there's maybe a little bit of disclosure happening, but I'll see it when I believe it.
	I'll believe it when I see it.
	Because...
	A lot of these things are one step forward, two steps back kind of process.
	So who knows?
	Maybe it's a distraction because of the COVID thing.
	I don't know.
	Because I was traveling during that time a lot, changing planes and all of that, so I didn't really delve into what they're really on about this time around.
	Did you ever think in all your years of doing it, that back in 2017, that those videos would be publicly released of the Tic Tac vehicles, those three clips, and now that they're saying they're going to put out some information about some possible remnants of some off-world vehicle found, did you ever think we'd get to this point, whatever the intentions might be behind the scenes?
	Well, yes.
	I mean, in a sense, my work is all geared to revealing all of that before they do, so to speak.
	So I assume someday they'd catch up with us and release more of the truth.
	But it's been actually way slower than I ever imagined when I started doing this.
	I am sort of shocked by the amount of disinfo that has gone through over the years and basically continues to do so.
	And I'm very surprised that it's taken them this long to make any steps in that direction.
	Now, yes, I'd be very happy if they do.
	It's just that there's been a lot of promises that they've never really capitalized on.
	And the fact of the matter is that it depends who's making the announcement and how it's made.
	Because 99% of the time, if not higher, when they make an announcement such as that, what they usually do is...
	Cover their own asses and put in plausible deniability so that they can backtrack off at any time.
	And they also put out two sets of information.
	They'll put out the one that makes seemingly a step forward and then they'll start disinfoing their own information so that people are misled.
	Because from their point of view, people are too dumb to hold two contradictory ideas in their minds simultaneously.
	And when you give them contradiction, they get into a state of confusion, and therefore they get frozen in place.
	And they don't know what to do.
	And that's what they're doing with the COVID situation.
	And that's what they're doing all the time.
	But that's very likely that's how they're going to release information.
	So it needs to be a much more widespread, you know, Huge onslaught.
	You know, the truth is so complex and so overwhelming that for them to come out with a few little statements about some little vehicles found somewhere, if that's what you're talking about, that's going to be ludicrous because this is a gigantic story.
	And we've been on it for 15 years.
	I can tell you that I have...
	You know, I do conferences.
	I've got like over 800 video interviews on YouTube.
	And I've been doing also, I did radio for five years before that.
	And I can just tell you that there's a lot of information that they are going to have to bring forward.
	And the trouble is they're afraid, number one, they don't want to lose power and control of humanity in the process.
	And number two, they don't want the blame to go on them for the secrecy that has resulted in the holding back of the technology that they know that they are using every day in the secret space program, which could change the lives of humans.
	All humans all around the planet, none of these sort of illusions of scarcity or, you know, lack of, you know, paying for your electricity and all of this kind of thing is all nonsense.
	And also, you know, I was thinking about it.
	I talked to friends about it.
	For all intents and purposes, I've been on the planet over 50 years, and I can tell you the technology that I'm dealing with, other than the internet and your phones, is exactly the same.
	We live exactly the same as we did when I was a kid.
	You go to restaurants, you take a plane somewhere, it takes X number of hours to get there.
	You know, you get jet lag, so and so.
	I mean, none of the space age things that we thought would happen when we were kids has happened.
	So that's the way I see it.
	I know it exists.
	I know it exists in the secret space program and the underground bases on and off planets.
	I know we have bases on the moon and Mars and moons of Saturn, etc.
	And I interview whistleblowers from Above Top Secret.
	That is wonderful.
	I interview individuals from the military, from the intelligence community, all the different alphabet agencies, from law enforcement, you name it.
	I interview them, scientists from black projects, etc.
	And I can tell you that without a doubt, if you watch my videos, you're going to know.
	That they've been lying to you steadily for, I don't know, since the 1950s at the least and before that as well.
	So that's the story that has to break.
	The story that's very long time coming.
	Now, some of your whistleblowers, I've watched a lot of those interviews.
	They don't all necessarily tell the same narrative of what's going on.
	From everyone you've interviewed in your research, could you briefly explain what you believe is going on with visitations?
	Okay, well, it's, like I said, it's a very complex story.
	And, of course, every whistleblower and person who's had a contact experience is all going to be relating it from their own perspective.
	So, of course, you're going to get some variation in the story.
	But there is a remarkable sort of thread of sameness throughout all of it involving the fact that we have visitation of beings from other planets and other galaxies coming here, some of whom are able to materialize in a human body and even temporarily, some of whom can, you know, can sort of take over a human body temporarily.
	Some are, you know, you know positively oriented towards our culture and our world and others are our enemies and have been our enemies through the decades and eons and also are fighting among themselves these these races so we have a huge number of races.
	As you can imagine, we're part of a huge galactic megaverse with You know, unlimited number of planets, and even, you know, now scientists mainstream are saying there are billions of Earth-like planets out there, so you do the math.
	You know, how many races might be visiting, might be on a faster technological track than we are, and might be coming to see what's out there.
	And some are coming here.
	That includes alien AI, artificial intelligence, which is really major.
	And that is going to be connecting with our AI, which is already kind of growing up and growing into real serious artificial intelligence.
	So you've got that drama going on, on top of the alien visitation.
	And, of course, the government has been dealing with and making treaties with some of these people, these beings, whatever you want to call them.
	Many of them are humanoids.
	Some are, we call them, well I call them the usual suspects.
	So you're talking about, you know, reptilians, mantid beings, the greys, small greys that are very popularly known.
	Although there are zillions of races of those greys and some are what you call little robots.
	That are created by the reptilians and by the tall whites and so on.
	And so you've got Nordic races.
	They're famously blonde, blue-eyed, and then they're all different color of also skin and complexion, etc.
	And so there's a whole litany of different races out there.
	And there's well over hundreds...
	Even hundreds of thousands.
	But as far as the visitors to Earth, the numbers vary depending on who you talk to.
	And there may be, you know, in other words, back in the early days of Camelot, we talked to Clifford Stone.
	He said, I think at that time, he was saying there was 57 races visiting.
	By now, there's like hundreds, you know, well over 57.
	So that was like, you know, I don't know.
	14 or so years ago when we interviewed Clifford and so on.
	So that's the story.
	We have a secret space program that has a cover program that NASA is a cover for and involves, like I say, bases on the moon and Mars and so on.
	Moons of Saturn and we are flying interstellar.
	The way you leave this planet is not to fly from point A to point B. You have to go interdimensional.
	It's an interstellar situation.
	You're not going through the belt and all that stuff where people...
	Have a big deal, you know, saying, oh, you can't leave the planet because you can't go through this belt.
	They just don't get it on how space travel happens.
	So, let's see, what else can I tell you about it?
	I mean, it's such a big story.
	Well, I'm not necessarily a skeptic, but how is this hidden?
	How is this so well hidden if there's 57 races visiting and there's countries all over the world, but Not one of these countries has fully accepted this.
	Oh, well, that's not actually true.
	Russians are much, much more open about this.
	I've actually traveled to Russia.
	They tell their people, yes, there are ETs and so on and so forth.
	They're actually very open, not as open as they could be, but they're open to a degree.
	Certain other cultures out there want to come forward, but they're under the thumb of the one world government, which really already exists.
	And the United States is sort of the heavy, the one with all the might, the guns, et cetera, et cetera.
	And so they basically pay the money to shut them up.
	And whenever a crash happens in those countries, even in Africa, you might have heard the U.S. will send troops to go cordon off the area and basically put out the disinfo and take the craft away.
	And they will pay the government.
	So a lot of it is done that way.
	As far as the races...
	Some of the races are interdimensional by nature, so even the greys can come and go and disappear and also wipe your mind so that you don't remember what you've seen.
	Some have been filmed.
	I've actually filmed a couple of greys while I was interviewing somebody in the background, John Edmonds, and that's on my YouTube channel.
	That's on his ranch, right?
	Yeah, on his ranch.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if those are little, you know, like models or something that they created because underground base right under his house is shared by the military and a certain group of ETs.
	So that's one thing.
	The other is they can also manifest as human, as I was saying, temporarily.
	So they can also appear to be human.
	Some are here on and off and they can live in our atmosphere and are actually living here on planet Earth.
	Timothy Good has written an excellent book that sort of catalogs the various some of the races that are here and interviews he's done revealing the fact that they keep to themselves, etc., So it's kind of a multi-dimensional story as far as the various races and how they managed to elude our notice.
	It's similar in a sense to what we call Yeti, whereas we have some Yeti sightings.
	There's no real proof, supposedly, although I've interviewed several of these people that have seen them, photographed them, etc., But they're not believed in the mainstream because there is a huge wall of secrecy that's been constructed since the 1930s by the military-industrial complex.
	And if you want to know how these things can remain secret, just look at COVID-19 and the lies that are being perpetrated around the earth to get the entire earth to shut down and all the businesses to shut down.
	And it's all based on lies that they're telling you.
	And no one is coming forward, not the real people that would be believed, because we have this consensus reality that Where people watch these TV, you know, pundits talking about complete nonsense.
	Sorry, I can't do anything across the room.
	I could actually cut that part out.
	Yeah, so, you know, it's like incredible, but you have to understand even now, do you really know what, like...
	Ghislaine Maxwell and what's his name, Epstein, were really up to.
	And all those years, and they've been, you know, kidnapping kids and, you know, abusing them, etc., etc.
	Do you know about the pedophile network?
	How can they keep that secret?
	That should be obvious, right?
	Those are just regular human beings.
	And look what they're doing, you know.
	They're sexually abusing children on a regular basis and humans are disappearing in droves, little children off the earth.
	People don't know what happens to them.
	They just say, oh, they disappeared.
	Yeah.
	Is that what you think happened?
	If you really want to know whether you can stand or see beneath the lies, then explain those things to me.
	Those are the simple ones.
	So how do you think the world would react?
	I've heard you say it before in past interviews that you think regular civilians could handle the truth, I guess.
	But we've seen in COVID there's been a lot of panic.
	There's a lot of crazy stuff happening in the US right now.
	What do you think would happen if more of this information came out and was accepted by the public?
	Well, I think we'd have a much better planet ultimately because of it and people would grow up a lot faster instead of staying in their silly imaginary hole, so to speak, you know, wearing masks on their face and staying ten, you know, six feet away from each other.
	This is all an Illuminati construct.
	They're, you know, it's as bad as Nazi Germany now.
	I mean, we are basically being locked down day after day.
	And now they're trying to stop you from traveling.
	And all of it based on some...
	So-called imaginary virus.
	You know that they've never isolated a virus.
	I've interviewed Dr.
	Robert Young, who covers this extensively.
	And I've interviewed him now, I think it's twice.
	And there's other people like Judy Mikovits.
	I'm trying to get an interview with her.
	And there are many other, Dr.
	Kaufman, and others out there that are really telling you the real truth.
	They have no axe to grind.
	They have no reason to lie to the public.
	They're putting their whole profession and their whole professional life on the line.
	And they could even lose their license for talking out in public.
	But YouTube is deleting those videos.
	Listen, if YouTube, if what was being said in the alternative was not the truth, then why delete it?
	It's like they think you're like little children who can only be told, you know, certain golden little lies in order to keep you safe and calm.
	It's nonsense.
	You can handle the truth and you should be given the truth and they should stop lying to you.
	But, you know, you also have to find it.
	You need to work to, you know, to recover your memory and to understand the real truth that's out there.
	What's your opinion of Dr.
	Stephen Greer?
	Some of the stuff he says and alludes to seems to have some credibility, but it seems like in recent years he's really trying to get people to buy his movies and pay for his, whatever he calls it, his experiences, where he telepathically communicates allegedly with these ETs.
	Well, I don't like bad-mouthing other people.
	I will say there's a very well-known video on my channel that has made the rounds where myself and Bill Ryan at the time were invited to sort of chair a panel discussion and in the process at this conference that took place in Barcelona, the ExoPolitics Conference.
	And Greer was there, and so was one of our whistleblowers, Henry Deacon, who came out under his own name, Arthur Neumann.
	And that's when I went on stage with Arthur Neumann, and he announced he had been working on Mars after Bob Dean had done a whole presentation about the secret space program and how...
	We had bases on the moon and Mars and so on.
	So Stephen Greer, we went behind the stage, we were doing interviews, and Stephen Greer, we had been talking to him about doing an interview, but basically, I didn't want to do the interview, but Bill did.
	And I knew it would be contentious because I knew that we didn't agree with a lot of things he said.
	He was saying things like, all ETs are friendly.
	He still says that.
	See, in my world, as far as I'm concerned, knowing the negative things, Draco and reptilians that are here, and also mirrored in some of the reptilian aspects of the various Nazi-type individuals, like the whole family of Bushes, that their DNA is in humans, alright?
	So, basically...
	Stephen Greer wants to believe or wants to tell people that all ETs are friendly, meaning that you can just send your kids out to meet the ETs and they'll be so friendly and they won't abduct them or eat them or use them as sexual slaves, etc., which is not true.
	So that's very dangerous for humans and I disagree with him.
	Very seriously on that.
	And he also wants you to think that he is the one who is forming the CIA of what's what with aliens, when in fact it's quite the reverse.
	And he has a tremendous ego.
	So the trouble with that is that he doesn't understand when he's being played.
	And so that's his own difficulty with understanding how the intelligence services work.
	Now...
	With all that said, let me say that he is dealing with ETs and he is also dealing with negative ETs a lot.
	So he's dealing with greys and the lower level ETs primarily, like reptilians and mantids and so on.
	What can I tell you?
	He's seducing people to go out and to let their guard down and interact with ETs that may not be having their best interests in mind.
	So that's why it's a problem.
	And I think he genuinely believes what he believes.
	I don't necessarily think he wants to mislead the public, but unfortunately he is doing so because he is misled.
	So for that, you can kind of put it like that.
	And the one thing that I also found unusual is with all these cattle mutilations, how can he say that that's all just the government and alien abduction is just the government trying to trick us when it just seems like a lot of work to have these cattle mutilations all over the world just to simply try and trick humans into thinking ETs exist?
	I don't know.
	There's no way humans are able to, you know, sort of swoop down, take a cattle, a cow up, drain them of blood that quickly and put them back on the ground and, you know, be discovered in record time.
	You know, this technology, at least up to now, hasn't existed in our secret space program.
	I can say that the secret space program is working with greys and has been since the days of Eisenhower who unfortunately made some deals with the greys.
	Among those deals was a limit supposedly on the number of humans they could abduct and eat, kill, do whatever genetic engineering they wanted to use them as baby sort of Places where the baby could incubate, etc.
	No, it's just diabolical to think that the secret space program has nothing better to do than with all their secrecy already to also plant these things out there.
	The reason they're being abducted and the blood drain is because these beings live on blood And organs, not only of cattle, but also of humans.
	So it's a diabolical story for sure.
	Now, I did interview Linda Moulton Howe recently, and she discussed her belief that there's competing ET races that are kind of warring behind the scenes.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Absolutely.
	You know, there's many years where Linda wouldn't even talk about ETs and the war with ETs, etc.
	So Camelot has been talking about this since day one.
	And she was hiding for a long time.
	She did finally come forward on this subject a few years ago.
	And that was true of a lot of people.
	She wasn't the only one.
	A lot of people wouldn't talk about what they really knew was true.
	So, yes, of course, as I said earlier, there are wars with various races of ETs.
	And if you want to read the best book that kind of covers all of the various races, E.T. Wars and different E.T. races and the beginnings of humanity here on Earth.
	Then you can read the Voyager books by Ashana Dean, Voyager 1 and 2, which you can get if you go to the front page of my website and scroll down on the right-hand side, you'll see those books and you can click on.
	One of them is the first, which is called Voyagers 1, is very hard to come by.
	I think it's out of print.
	But Voyager 2 is a PDF, and it's an e-book, and you can download it off her website for something like $20.
	So that's really better than the Bible, better than anything else you're going to read out there, and it's extremely intricate, so be prepared.
	What do you think is the relationship with UFOs and water?
	We see all these unidentified, submerged objects and we always hear about there's a lot of activity with UFOs and oceans and so forth.
	Well, there's undersea bases.
	The ETs, various races, have underground bases and undersea bases.
	We have undersea and underground bases as well.
	There are real mermaids or merpeople, if you want to call them that, that I have gotten backchannel verification of.
	So, if you want to...
	See, I'm trying to remember.
	There's a series, actually, on Hulu about the mermaid people that is remarkably accurate, if you're interested.
	I think it's called Siren, but I'm not sure.
	But at any rate, they have bases and the Navy has had to deal with those beings because the Navy and their sonar have been disturbing their undersea lifestyle and they're very upset about that.
	So they do have battles with the U.S. Navy, especially in the Pacific Ocean.
	But there are tons of...
	Our planet is riddled with underground bases and caverns and undersea bases and caverns.
	And even going into inner earth and so on.
	So it's a very, you know, this is how the beings out there work.
	They know how to go interdimensional.
	They know how to go into a planet and establish themselves, etc.
	Do you think that this is going to come out more in our lifetime or if it's going to be pretty much secret for the rest for like the next 30 or 40 decades, for instance?
	I'm always optimistically hopeful that more and more people will become aware of the real truth about reality and what it means to be human, which they a lot of people don't understand.
	They don't understand the powers that we have.
	They don't understand our human potential, etc.
	Instead of giving your power away to medical professionals and so-called professionals who have gone through the system and been programmed to tell you certain things, to learn to break away from the system, to learn to think on your own two feet, etc.
	Even people that have many degrees are guilty of simply following their programming.
	The party line.
	And they're afraid to do anything other than that, even when they find out the real truth, simply because they will lose their entitlements.
	And so this is a huge problem.
	In essence, you're being betrayed by your brothers and sisters in humanity that should be coming forward even now to tell you the lies that are being told about COVID that are basically destroying your life and destroying your lifestyle and destroying your children's ability to get an education, even in a program school.
	Because it's good to learn the programming so you can unlearn it, basically, and learn...
	It's good to know your enemy, so to speak, in my view.
	But bottom line is the Earth is changing.
	I am optimistic that more and more people are waking up and that they will continue to do so, that the Illuminati are finding it harder and harder to program people, and that our frequencies are raising higher and higher.
	So the higher your frequency is, The more you understand and the more you grow, the less they'll be able to control you.
	And pretty soon, they will be completely out of their reach.
	This will happen eventually here on planet Earth and so on.
	So, yes, I am optimistic.
	Some people think it's not going to happen until, I don't know, 2030 or something like that.
	But I hope that it'll happen way before that.
	I hope that we will have disclosure.
	I mean, the truth tellers like myself that are basically investigating the stories and putting out the information, the truth is out there.
	And it's there for you to find and to see.
	So it's already out there.
	And getting the sort of pat on the head from the authorities saying, yes, this is true or not, is not really as necessary as it used to be, I think, for humanity.
	I think more and more the truth is telling itself.
	And I think if we can have more and more military come forward and tell the real truth about what they know, this will speed the process up.
	It's really us who has to release the real truth because we're the only ones with a vested interest.
	Individuals that are living in a secret space program that is basically promising them life, everlasting life, You know, on another planet if they do what they're told on this planet and betray their fellow man.
	This is the kind of thing that's going on.
	So I hope that sooner or later people will wake up and tell the truth more and more.
	Now you've had at least one astronaut on your channel.
	I saw that interview.
	Numerous high-ranking military people.
	For people that are looking for some of your more Credible interviews with the most highest ranking people, for instance.
	What are some interviews that you would suggest that they would look up if they want to check out some of your footage?
	On YouTube, they let you have playlists, right?
	So I've created some playlists there, and one of them is called Classic Camelot.
	See, what happened was over time, less and less whistleblowers came forward, so that right now you have very few whistleblowers out there.
	But in the early days of Camelot, There were a lot more whistleblowers willing to come forward.
	And so those people are on classic Camelot.
	So I would highly recommend those.
	I mean, there are people like Pete Peterson, Bob Dean, you know, Jim Mars, Clifford Stone.
	If I rattle them off, I think nobody's going to be able to write them down that fast.
	But at least you can understand that if it's a whistleblower, and I do have a category called Camelot whistleblowers as well, where you can go specifically for that.
	But I wouldn't limit yourself because we have, for example, really important interviews with super soldiers who have been revealing what the secret space program is all about, building a humanity 3.0 that will be able to be bigger, faster, better, and live probably as long as they can or forever.
	These are basically the transhumanist agendas that we all know about.
	But they are being implemented in certain groups of soldiers as we speak.
	And have been for at least since the 1960s.
	So that's very important.
	Even Nazi Germany was working on that.
	That's what the movie Universal Soldier was all about.
	And that was very close to the truth.
	Especially the first one, I think it is.
	So...
	That's about all I can tell you.
	There's just so many interviews that if I had them in front of me, I would tell you what to see and why.
	I also have, I think it's on my website, for people that are newbies that are just coming to the sector, A list of videos that I recommend that they watch sort of in an order.
	So that's also on my site.
	And I forget what I called it.
	Now, I've been on your website, but I forget the address, if you could share that with us.
	Sure.
	It's Project Camelot is the name of everything.
	So it's projectcamelot.tv, projectcamelot.org.
	Project Camelot Portal.com.
	All three of those URLs go to the same place.
	And the reason we have three is because we began to find out that various ISPs around the country were banning certain of our URLs.
	So we created a couple others.
	So those will all take you to my website, which has a tremendous amount of material on it, including...
	Probably over a thousand articles and I have written a book and that was released in February of this year and it's basically called Rebel Gene, Secret Space and the Future of Humanity.
	So I highly recommend that people go to Amazon and read my book.
	If you really want to learn about what I'm talking about, it's all in my book.
	You talk a lot about the Anunnaki in your videos and I think there's something on your website about them too.
	Who are they for those that don't know?
	The Anunnaki are a race of beings that are said to come from the planet Nibiru, although Ultimately, they are connected with even the Pleiadians and other humanoid races coming from other galaxies and Lyra, etc.
	But they were infiltrated and invaded by the reptilians, the Draco specifically.
	So now that the Anunnaki are actually a hybrid race of Draco, Sort of humanoid.
	And they were humanoid to begin with.
	They are the beings that you see carved into the walls in Egypt, in ancient sites in Iraq and Iran as well.
	And they're taller.
	They're generally 9 to 12 feet tall.
	They consider themselves to some degree to be fathers of humanity, even though they're not.
	What they did is they came to the planet and infiltrated our genome and genetically engineered a certain...
	There's a lot of controversy around the story, but it comes out in the Sumerian tablets.
	Zachariah Sitchin made it most popular by retelling it in his books.
	I think he had 12 books, as I recall.
	He's since passed on, but his books are very famous for relaying this story.
	There's two brothers and a father figure, Anu, And they were basically both genetically engineering.
	Both brothers were genetically engineering humanity.
	They interfered with our genome and they basically decided, on the one hand, one brother wanted humans to be more subservient and follow orders.
	And the other...
	Enki was willing to have a more rebellious group of humans and so that's where I named my book Rebel Gene because I consider that those who are willing to sort of explore their rebel rebel side are the ones that are really going to lead humanity into the future and that's what being an innovator is also all about and so this is kind of where we're headed and They are related
	to us, they're not the only race, and they're not the originators.
	Now, the last person I'll ask you about, because there's a million people I could ask you about, but I'll highly suggest people check out your YouTube channel to find out more information, but Robert Bigelow has been a key figure related to ETs and UFOs in recent years, the billionaire that's Been doing his own investigations.
	What do you know about him?
	And what's your opinion of him?
	Well, I know some things about him.
	I mean, obviously, he was in charge of the ranch.
	I forget what it's called.
	Skinwalker Ranch.
	Skinwalker Ranch, yeah.
	And for a while.
	And then he sold it recently to another group.
	They're still involved with the CIA, nonetheless.
	Bigelow is, you know, an entrepreneur who is very interested in the whole sort of ET visitation situation and he's working with the secret space program in a big way.
	And you keep mentioning the secret space program.
	Is this something that like the president's aware of or is this something that's so secret that it's even above the president and happening that far in the background?
	Oh, definitely.
	Trump is actually a lot more aware of everything than a lot of people realize.
	And so this is what's motivating him.
	And John F. Kennedy Jr., who's working behind the scenes with him to tell the real story, what's going on.
	So, yeah, he knows.
	As far as I'm concerned, Trump is totally read in.
	He knows exactly what's going on.
	Interesting.
	So we know you have the Project Camelot YouTube channel.
	Do you have Twitter or a Facebook group or any Instagram where we could follow you?
	Oh, definitely.
	If you go to my website, you can see those links, and so you can basically go there.
	And that's my dog in the background, by the way.
	I'm sleeping on her back.
	Anyway, yeah, I'm on Twitter.
	I am on Facebook.
	My personal page, Carolyn Cassidy.
	All these links are on the front page of Camelot.
	On the right-hand side, they're brightly colored.
	Let's see.
	And I also use LinkedIn.
	And what else do I use?
	Oh, let's see.
	Instagram.
	And I can't remember what else.
	I think that's about it.
	Basically, search Project Camelot on any of those platforms and you'll pop up.
	Yes.
	And by the way, there's a confusion out there right now with some people thinking that an organization calling itself Camelot TV is not Project Camelot.
	So please be...
	Aware that my project is called Project Camelot, and there's a reason we did that, so we could separate ourselves from places calling themselves Camelot this and Camelot that, because Camelot's quite a common usage on the internet.
	So, just to be aware, we are...
	What made you choose that name, I gotta ask, since you bring it up?
	Well, we both believed in the sort of King Arthur's Camelot When I connected with Bill Ryan, he was one of the early interviews I did before we named it Project Camelot.
	And I flew to England, and he showed me around and took me to Tintagel, England, where it's one of the former homes of King Arthur.
	And I had a lot of past life recall at that place with regard to Arthur's Camelot.
	And I feel very connected to that place.
	And Bill Ryan did as well.
	So we decided to name our project after this idea of a flat organization that was not hierarchical.
	It was based on the round table idea of King Arthur Foundation.
	The so-called myth of King Arthur.
	So we wanted to name it Camelot.
	We knew there was too many names on the internet with Camelot.
	So I was writing screenplays and had been researching and all the black projects start with the word or a lot of them.
	Project this, project that.
	I was writing a screenplay called Project Moondust.
	So I suggested, why don't we call it Project Camelot?
	So then we went back and forth between, should we call it Camelot Project or Project Camelot?
	And we both liked Project Camelot.
	And we found out that the URL was available, not.com, but.org.
	So that's what we took, and it stuck through that time.
	So that's why we named ourselves Project Camelot.
	And we're not some social engineering study that was done back in the 60s before either of us were even alive or whatever that some people try to classify us as or something.
	Because, as I say, it was very organic how how Project Camelot came about and the fact that I was a filmmaker and Bill Ryan was a writer, investigator already on, you know, doing stuff with Scientology.
	So we'll close it up because I know you're busy.
	You just got back.
	You're back in the LA area.
	Is there any final message you would like to share with us?
	I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions.
	Thank you.
	Well, simply, I'd like people to question everything and to never believe so-called authorities, not when they tell you something about yourself or anything else, because a lot of their credentials and stuff are based on false knowledge.
	So I guess that would be something very important at this time, and to understand that And do your own research and reach your own conclusions.
	It's your incarnation.
	And be a sovereign being.
	Try to take sovereignty over your own physical body as well as your soul and mind.
	And resist any attempts to take you over or basically rule you.

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