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June 17, 2019 - Project Camelot
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TonyGosling: TANKER WARS; DRONE WARS... EDITED CORRECTED VERSION
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Tony, you are now on the screen.
I want to say hi to everyone.
How's everyone doing?
Sorry, we're doing a new setup because I'm actually in the UK, and I'm here with Tony Gosling, and so I see that there's some problems with my camera and so on, so I think you can hear me okay, and so I'm just going to continue here.
So Tony, we only have you for a little bit.
I thought we would do a quick update.
It's great to see you, and Why don't you tell us what your take is on the tanker situation?
Let's start off with that.
Okay, so last Thursday we had this attack on these two tankers, the Kukula Courageous, which is a Japanese tanker, and the Frontal Teer, Norwegian, in the Gulf of Amman.
So this, just to get the geography here, the Persian Gulf goes right the way out from Kuwait, right out to the Straits of Bormuz, And then it gets narrow, and then when it widens out a bit to go into the Arabian Sea, that's the Gulf of Amman, that's where these tankers were.
They were heading out roughly southeast, and they were both attacked around about the same time, last Thursday.
Okay, so the question of course is, we've seen all the pictures, at least they've been transmitted around the world, pictures of these tankers.
And if you have a look, you'll see that it's the starboard side that's been hit.
So, both of the two tankers, the front Altair was very much more badly injured, or there was a much worse fire.
And all down the right-hand side, the starboard side of it, you can see damage, fire damage.
And the fascinating thing is that the owners of the Japanese ship have contradicted what the Pentagon has said, and Mike Pompeo particularly, after he said it.
So this is, you know, quite clearly, I mean, normally in this sort of situation, you'll find that the diplomatic circles will be used in order to straighten up the story before they go public.
But on this occasion, the Japanese have gone out on a limb, I would say clearly supported by Abe, the Prime Minister, To say no, the American's account is not correct because the crew of the Kakula Courageous have told their owner that they saw some sort of flying object hit the side of the ship from the starboard side.
So that contradicts what the Americans are talking about, limpet mines of some kind.
Also, really, I think one of the things that's not been mentioned anywhere, as far as I can see, is the fact that the starboard side of the ship is facing towards Amman.
I'm facing towards the Saudi Arabia type direction, not towards Iran.
So it seems obvious to me that if the missiles come from that side, then it's probably been fired from that side, which is not Iran.
So the mainstream press, Kerry, has completely let us down on this.
The other thing the mainstream press has not picked up on are the stories from a couple of weeks ago that the Special Boat Service, the SBS, which is the Royal Navy's Special Forces units, have been posted out to Amman.
And these are the sorts of guys that would have the kinds of missiles...
That could do this sort of attack.
They're also completely secret.
So none of what the SBS do, or the SAS for that matter, in the UK is in any way scrutinized by our politicians.
They're not regular forces.
They are so-called special forces, which can be used for all sorts of black operations and covert operations.
And it does seem to me as if this attack on the tankers All the evidence so far is pointing towards this being from the West, an attack on these two tankers, which is pretty shocking considering the Norwegians and the Japanese are supposed to be our allies.
So the other thing is that we haven't heard very much at all from the owners of the Front Altaire.
Norway, of course, is in NATO, so this makes it much closer to the US in terms of the military alliance.
So it may be that the auspices of NATO have been used to keep the Norwegian owners of the Norwegian tanker quiet, whereas, of course, the Japanese are much more free agents, and they are very aware the Americans have been putting pressure on China in the South China Sea.
In their sphere of influence, there's much more Shall we say incentive on Abe and the Japanese to keep an independent mind.
Whereas I think, you know, it's so telling that the Japanese have spoken out about this, but the Norwegians haven't.
Seems to indicate that this is a military operation by NATO and Israel, because Israel obviously is very close to NATO and has even publicly said that it wants to have a conflict with the Iranians.
So this to me looks pretty obviously a rather cack-handed um false flag attempt a false flag operation because the video the so-called smoking gun uh issued by the pentagon and and commented on by Pompeo etc the black and white film showing the Iranians allegedly uh removing a limpet mine well one does wonder what our American air force or navy drones doing hovering around just watching rather than steaming towards the scene and
helping A burning tanker.
And then they just published that around the world and most of the people around the world, including several leaders, senior leaders around the world, have said, well, we don't think that this is any evidence that the Iranians did this, including our very own Jeremy Corbyn here.
He's very outspoken, saying he doesn't believe that's enough evidence to show the Iranians did it, as most of the general public around the world, of course, are saying.
Also interesting that the person to contradict Corbyn on that was the Conservative leadership candidate, Rory Stewart, who said that this is a terrible thing for Corbyn to say.
Now, Rory Stewart, as you may know, and I don't know how many of your listeners know, was working for MI6 when he was in Afghanistan.
And this has been corroborated.
I mean, there was a lot of speculation about this, but it's been definitely corroborated by the former ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray.
Who's made it absolutely clear that he knows that while he was the ambassador, I think it was to Uzbekistan next door, that he had come across Stuart as an MI6 operative.
So if MI6 are saying that Jeremy Corbyn has got it wrong, you can be almost certain that Jeremy Corbyn has got it right.
This has got nothing to do whatsoever with Iran.
And it's all actually Western Israeli and British or American special forces that have carried out this attack.
Which is an absolute outrage.
And it's amazing that none of the Western press really have gone into any sort of detail about the evidence that there is that the West has attacked two oil tanks.
I mean, you know, the other thing, of course, is that these tankers represent a tremendous amount in terms of potential money that the Western industries have to spend on insurance.
So there's an insurance motive.
For doing this as well.
And, you know, we're likely to see oil prices start to go up, that sort of thing, and natural gas prices, methanol prices, wherever, go up because of the increased risk.
So I think what we need out of all this, Kerry, is we need to have a real close look at what the hell is going on in Amman with the special forces there and on these US Navy ships.
What the SBS are up to.
And we want to know exactly where they were and what they were doing last Thursday.
Because it looks to me as if SBS may well be behind this.
The British, that is.
So, I don't understand.
You're suddenly saying that you think the British are behind the tanker attacks?
That's right.
I mean, what we had is it could well be...
In other words, it's a false flag.
In other words, they're trying to create a war.
Yeah.
If you go online, you have a look at the air.
There was a special boat service deployment to Amman, which is right on the coast where these tankers were hit, just about three weeks ago.
And this was open at the time that they were going there to join American Special Forces.
The direction that the missiles hit, because it clearly wasn't lit mines, both of these These tankers were hit above the waterline and we've got eyewitnesses from the Kakula Courageous actually saying, contradicting Pompeo and saying, we saw a flying object Fly towards and hit the ship.
These are the crew of the ship themselves saying this.
The Japanese.
I mean, remember, Japan is ostensibly an ally of the United States, so they've got no reason to lie.
But they do want to contradict it when they see that something is not true about the way this is being reported around the world.
As you and I know, you know, quite often you'll get a story which goes 10 times around the world over several days before the truth gets a look in.
Absolutely.
Well, what I'm wondering, though, is you're not talking about the flying objects that were seen over the ship itself.
You're talking about one that was aimed at the ship.
Well, this is what the crew of the Kakula Courageous have said, the Japanese ship.
It was very interesting as well.
The initial reporting by the BBC was appalling.
They just said, oh, one is a Panamanian registered vessel and the other one is registered in Honduras.
Well, of course, everybody with two brain cells knows that these are the main places where people register ships for insurance purposes.
But they didn't even bother to find out who actually owned the vessel.
So they were registered in those countries, but they didn't even look to see that one was a Japanese ship and one was a Norwegian ship.
That was the initial reporting on the day and the day after.
So I think we're looking at a very definite escalation because this is an escalation from the previous attack a month ago on the ships in UAE. Which were very lightly damaged, which the Americans then blamed on the Iranians.
Of course, they always do.
And this is a much more serious attack, particularly the frontal tear.
It could have been really much more disastrous because of the enormity of the fire on the starboard side of the ship could have possibly have led to whatever it was inside igniting or the ship going down and spilling its contents, etc., And it was only the quick action of the Iranians that helped put the fires out and the crews themselves on these ships.
The Americans even said, didn't they?
I don't know if you heard this.
The Americans are saying that the Iranians forced them to leave the ship.
Well, of course, the ship is burning and they want to get off the ship.
So to say they forced them to leave is ridiculous, really.
And I think this whole episode is.
But the serious side of it is an escalation.
Of the attempts at false flags to get a war started with Iran.
And many people think this is just not possible.
We saw at Bilderberg in Montreux this year.
And by the way, Montreux is right next to a mountain called Mont Perilin.
And if you've ever heard of the Mont Perilin Society, it's the secret think tank of far-right people.
There are economists, including Milton Friedman, when he was around, he was part of this society, which believe in absolute property rights and extension of property rights.
So this is talking about into the digital world, into genetics and all this kind of thing.
So that was where Bilderberg was this year, literally just five miles from Mont Peril in itself, next to Lake Geneva.
And so Bilderberg did not have Iran or the Middle East specifically on the agenda, which is absolutely unprecedented, Kerry.
For the last eight years, every year they've had Iran, the Middle East, Iran, the Middle East, and it wasn't on the agenda.
Yet Mike Pompeo is there.
Jared Kushner is at Bilderberg.
And we're supposed to believe they're not talking about war with Iran.
Well, it reminds me of 2002 and 2003 when the leaks were coming out of Bilderberg.
About a war with Iraq and nobody believed it.
People would say, well, this can't be true.
There's no way that the Americans and the British or anyone else is going to attack Iraq.
And and yet, lo and behold, in 2003, they did under false evidence.
And, you know, this is the sort of thing that we see.
Wait one second here, because there is I want to go back to the fact that the Iranians did.
They were right on hand to to rescue the crew.
of the ship because it doesn't make anybody any sense that you would hit a ship in any way shape or form and then rescue the crew you know what I'm saying of the ship if you actually did the deed it doesn't make sense okay so the Coast Guard patrols I can tell you along the southern coast of Iran in the Persian Gulf and in the Gulf of Amman are pretty rigorous because of course they're expecting to be attacked Well,
they have a lot of pirates, of course.
But it still begs the question of whether or not someone, a country, is going to attack a ship.
And not only that, but you keep in mind that meanwhile the Japanese minister is in meetings with their leader.
It doesn't make sense at all that they would attack a ship that was in the waters.
Isn't it interesting that the Japanese have now come out and said, or the Japanese owners of the ship, we contradict what Pompeo is saying.
But it seems pretty clear to me, Kerry, that Pompeo is absolutely, and the Israelis, Jared and the rest of them, are absolutely going for it with Iran, like they did for Iraq, like they did with Syria, etc.
Let me ask you about this, because it's also very interesting, Pompeia's statement.
The way he framed it was he tried to sort of have like a litany of violations that were going back since the time of this attack.
And this attack was actually on two, there were two different ships that were attacked at the same time.
And that story also got convoluted, but aside from that.
But then when he gave his talk, he had a whole litany of what he was considering violations, and he said going back something like 40 years.
In other words, what that tells me is they're trying to build A case for war.
A case to say that Iran has been in somehow threatening other countries just willy-nilly for years.
And that's simply not the case.
It's unbelievable.
And they're actually on, you know, they're stating emphatically that they don't want a war.
They have no interest in a war.
So why would they be the culprits behind the attacks if they don't want a war?
You see, none of it makes sense.
No.
Well, that doesn't seem to matter because of the amount of control there is over the mainstream press.
If you notice, most of the things that I've told you about this attack, for example, the direction which the missiles came from, the fact that it was missiles anyway, the background to the bad reporting, all that sort of thing, shows that the media, the mass media, is not doing its job with these attacks at all.
And, you know, what we've seen with things like the Duma chemical weapons attack, we were told for weeks, of course, that that was Assad, the evil Assad, who had to go.
And then when it comes out through the various official sources, including the UN, that it isn't, they get their view out, and then everything closes down.
As people like myself and yourself and others, including the Japanese...
When Prime Minister start to question what's happening, those parts of the story are simply not reported, Kerry.
So the idea is they're leaving an impression in people's minds that, oh, well, this thing that happened last week, oh, yes, we found out it was the Iranians.
And then they're trying to add this to this ridiculous list of everything that the Iranians are supposed to have done, including, you know, sort of anything to do with bad weather that's happening in Britain or, you know, they're blaming everything on them.
Which is absolutely unbelievable.
In fact, they're blaming also now at the moment.
They say they picked up again this week with literally just today saying the Iranians are enriching far too much uranium and they're getting close to a weapons grade level.
Well, actually, this is nonsense.
If you know anything about physics and science, you'll find 20 percent enriched uranium is not good enough to make a bomb with.
Anywhere near.
And we had actually the former weapons inspector Scott Ritter on our show here in Bristol, we do every Friday, saying exactly that.
The enrichment is happening at a very safe non-weapons level, but also it's provided for in the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear deal, it says...
That you can do this.
If the Americans pull out, you can start doing exactly what they're now doing.
And the whole thing has been caused by the US pulling out.
And of course, that happened because of the pressure from the Israel lobby on Trump.
And it happened roughly at the same time, of course, as the Mueller inquiry came out.
Oh, well, it's OK. Trump is not going to be in peace for the time being.
You know, which I find very interesting coincidence that these things are happening at the same sort of time.
At the same time, of course, as Trump was talking about the recognition of the Golan Heights.
And so much of what goes on seems to hinge around the Zionist agenda, which, of course, is war with Iran.
And they're quite open about this, the way they talk about thinking that it's about time that we just got rid of this regime.
And in fact, what makes me more bothered than almost anything else is the way that Netanyahu and his friends are invoking this whole thing of God all the time.
They're now saying, and in fact, over the last few weeks, they're openly now saying this, That God will help us get rid of Iran making these sorts of statements, which I think is actually the words of a madman, a nihilist, if you want, someone that wants the war and they're prepared to say any old nonsense in order to try and convince themselves and the world and their friends.
That they're going to win.
Because it looks to me, if you look at it as a military operation, that whether the Israelis attack Lebanon or whether the US and the Gulf states attack Iran, there's absolutely no way they can win.
And so they need to try and sell this through these kind of crazy ideas of, it's okay, God will be on our side.
Well, you can imagine what sort of disastrous war that would bring about if they take those sorts of fundamentalist views, Kerry.
Right.
Now, there's something very interesting going on with the Yemeni organization, which it's a small group that is, and I forget how to pronounce the name, but it starts with an H, I believe.
The Houthis!
Sorry?
Yes.
So they are saying that the Saudi Arabians are saying that they are responsible with their drones for basically, I guess, hitting or bombing a...
God, what is it?
Is it a church?
It's something in Saudi Arabia, repeatedly.
And it's very interesting because that's an act of war, of course.
And so what you've got is you've got...
Because you haven't really talked that much about it, but Saudi Arabia seems to be very deeply in this mix.
And the question is whether or not, indeed...
These attacks on the boats are actually caused by the Saudis, because the Saudis seem to be really motivated to want to get into a war.
Well, they have no accountability in Saudi Arabia, do they?
It's not a democracy, none at all, in fact.
Yeah, so it's just whatever Mohammed bin Salman wakes up in the morning and decides he wants to do, he will do.
And then Mohabarat, which is their secret police, secret special forces, it's quite likely they possibly were involved in that.
The British and American Special Forces were around at the same time in Amman, off the coast of where the tankers were hit.
But look, bringing in the Saudis, you're absolutely right.
So the Saudis are moaning because the Houthis are attacking Saudi Arabia, and they have.
They've taken several military bases on the border between Yemen and Saudi.
But really, they've got no right to moan, having been bombing for the last four years the Houthis with their British bombs, their British jets.
and their support from NATO so they've got no right to complain and anyway this conflict between the Saudis and Yemen you really should see it as a kind of civil war really because the whole of the Arabian Peninsula used to be just Arabia before the Brits came along and the French and started dividing things up this is really one country and many of the soldiers in the Saudi army And their fighting forces are actually Yemenis because it's really part of the same country which
was divided up many years ago.
So that's one of the reasons I think the Saudis have been attacking Yemen as they have is because they want to keep that part of Saudi Arabia from starting to assert itself.
And of course it is doing now with the help of drones and this sort of thing.
making some fairly successful attacks against the Saudis, including on airports and this sort of thing.
But the Saudis have also been proven to have been communicating with their embassy in Sri Lanka, which has not been reported anywhere really in the Western media.
The Lebanese managed to see a report which was going from Saudi Arabia to the Saudi embassy in Sri Lanka, literally a week before the attacks, saying, well, stay away from churches over Easter and make sure saying, well, stay away from churches over Easter and make sure you destroy all the documents involved with a specific
So it does look as if the Saudis definitely knew that there were attacks about to take place, whether they carried them out or were involved in them in Sri Lanka, because it was a horrific attack.
250 people killed at church services on Easter Sunday.
And the Saudis look to have been the culprits from this leaked information.
And it's a whole document that the Lebanese have put online to show, hang on, look at this.
Isn't this interesting?
We've filmed this from the airwaves.
We hacked this from the Saudi embassy on its way to Sri Lanka.
And also, of course, the Sri Lankan authorities are looking at this saying, crikey.
And in fact, they've arrested what they now believe is the mastermind who's working for the Saudi Arabians.
So we're told, oh, well, this is some sort of ISIS operation.
Actually, it looks like a military operation by the Saudis to blow up the churches in Sri Lanka, too.
So something needs to be done about the Saudis.
The Americans at the moment are trying through Congress to stop any arms sales in Saudi Arabia.
Of course, that has been vetoed by Trump.
And the answer coming back from the White House is the same old nonsense, which is, oh, well, if we don't arm the Saudis, the Chinese and the Russians will.
So we're going to have to just keep giving them all the arms they want.
Of course, they really want is what they really want is the money from the oil revenues to come flowing back into the United States because the US is in this rather difficult, precarious financial situation with the Chinese owning most of their debt.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of a lot of other dimensions to this, not least of which, which I would imagine you've gone into in the past, Kerry, is this Albert Pike letter from 1871, which actually predicts a third world war in the Middle East, where they say that they will unleash various sorts of hell on where they say that they will unleash various sorts of hell on Earth and the massive world war that they create
This is the Freemasons really speaking because he was a Confederate captain, but he was also the head of the Scottish right Freemasons in America.
He says, it would be the most bloody turmoil.
We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and provoke a formidable social cataclysm, which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, the origins of savagery and the most bloody turmoil.
That's a quote from this alleged letter from Albert Pike.
Many people say this is nonsense, this letter, but if you're seeing what is interesting, it does look as if this is actually unfolding before our eyes.
Well, let me say that, I'm sorry, we seem to have a bit of an echo here, but what I understand is, you know, Camelot was told many, many years ago that if Hillary got into office, there were two timelines, that the war was going to be less than it was planned to be, but there was inevitably going to be a third world war.
Now, this is something they've been working on for a long time, and these So-called prophecies are about things that they want to have happen.
It's actually their plans.
So when we saw Trump go into office, it became a question as to whether or not this suddenly was in play, whether or not we could escape a world war.
And it does appear, everyone is saying that the cabinet, in essence, Trump's cabinet, And Pompeo, in particular, is really drumming for a war.
It's fascinating the British side of it that you were bringing in quite earlier on our talk, indicating that there are some reasons to believe that the British are involved in these attacks.
The one thing that I noticed in the news today is they're talking about quote-unquote tanker wars.
And I thought that was interesting, harking back to, I think they said the 1980s.
So what is that about?
In other words, is there something in that that led to war back in the 80s?
As a preliminary gesture.
And of course, we know the Gulf of Tompkin was the beginning of a false flag that started, ignited the actual official start of the Vietnam War, although they had apparently been setting things up for years before that in conflict.
Well, there's a lot of questions there, but a lot of people will say, well, no one wants this kind of world war.
Well, the fact of the matter is there are people that do.
And you and I know that.
This is the arms industries.
This is the banksters who are actually criminal and they should be in jail.
But for whatever reason, they've bribed their way out of jail and they're not.
They've not been locked up for stealing the at least one trillion Pounds in UK money in the UK that they did in 2008 and then using that to lobby for more power.
So there's that aspect to it.
You're talking about tanker wars.
The tankers are absolutely key to whether or not Whether the oil's price is going to go up or down and whether or not there is going to be actually any oil heading our way.
This is really a way of blackmailing politicians and this is I think what the Bilderbergers and people like that do is they'll say well you better do this otherwise and we better put this these armed forces here and here otherwise we could be looking at no more oil and that would be a complete economic disaster and of course it would.
That would lead to a crash which people like George Soros And the rest of them would probably make a lot of money at.
So this is a criminal gang we're looking at.
It's very James Bond, isn't it?
You know, sort of Dr.
No.
And this whole idea of, what was it Dr.
No?
James Bond said to Dr.
No.
Ah, he said, world domination.
Same old dream.
So it is real, the Tanker Wars.
Then we can go back to 1973 and the October War.
Where the Arab nations attacked Israel and there was an enormous US reinforcement of the Israelis.
This is really where the absolute weddedness of the US political system and Israel really 100% started, 100% here.
And that led to the massive hike in oil prices in the 1970s.
Which led to shortages.
We had queues at petrol stations here in Britain, great long queues down the road and everyone was sort of biting their nails.
But this is a warning to today's politicians that if they don't do what they're being told by the power elite in regards to Middle East policy, That they are going to get no fuel and the whole country is going to grind to a halt because we've become so fossil fuel dependent, particularly diesel and petrol, to get goods around, even diesel trains, that sort of thing.
Getting everything around is not going to happen.
And in the meantime, the Chinese, with their new Silk Road project, the Belt and Road project, They're starting to bring everything into Europe via trains.
Now, this is much, much quicker than the US can ship stuff over by ship.
Or in the old days, they used to bring stuff through the Suez Canal and maybe round the Horn of Africa, for example, by boat, by container ships.
This is a real threat to the US-European relationship because it looks as if the Chinese, by this railway line, just one railway line and lots and lots of freight going backwards and forwards on it, could actually undermine the close relationship between Europe and America.
So this is all happening, Kerry, at the same time as the Nord Stream pipeline is being closed down as well.
The project is being closed by the Americans.
This is where the Russians bringing energy into Europe, into Germany.
The Germans being told simply, no, you're not having this and it's all going to stop by the US. And so all of this is it looks as if the Europeans are starting to lean towards the east to Russia and China.
And at the same time, the Americans realize that this could be disastrous for their stranglehold through NATO on what happens in Europe.
Okay.
Well, yes.
Fascinating analysis.
There's also the issue that we're having.
As I was saying, I wanted to correct the fact that what the Houthis are hitting is the airport, the Saudi Arabian airport.
And it fascinates me that we're dealing with a country that has really no infrastructure.
It's been It's been in war forever.
We're talking about Yemen.
It's the poorest country in the Middle East as well.
Yes, it's a joke that that country could be considered a threat in any way, shape or form to Saudi Arabia, which is massive, which has incredible amounts of wealth.
Well, hang on, because it is a threat.
It's a threat because the people of Yemen are very, you know, similar.
They're very close to the Saudis.
The border is really an artificial border.
And the Saudis realize that as they start to do more and more what the West is telling them and not what's in the interest of their own people, they're facing a potential revolution.
So what they're doing really with Yemen is trying to put that revolution down before it gets a chance to get going.
I think that's really what the Yemen attacks, the atrocities there have been about.
Of course, the biggest outbreak of cholera in the modern era there, we're looking at roughly 90,000 people killed, 90% of which have been civilians.
Now, just to give you an idea, when the British controlled Aden back in the 1960s, There were about 200 people killed over the space of four years, and they were 90% military.
So the actual soldiers and serving soldiers on both sides of the rebels down in Yemen and the British.
Now we're looking at nearly 100,000 people killed and 90% of them being civilians.
So it's a completely different type of warfare happening in Yemen.
And I'm quite certain that Yemenis understand that.
They're pleading to the rest of the world, largely through the mainstream media, to do something.
Congress is trying and they're finding themselves blocked by the White House, which is virtually controlled by Jared Kushner.
People can tune into our show live online or if they're living in Bristol by some miracle, they can pick us up on FM 93.2 every Friday between 6pm and 8pm.
And we just still keep going through all of these interesting incidents and we will give you an analysis that you won't get on the BBC. Although actually I have to say the World Service has been doing a reasonable job.
They're at least trying to have some balance.
But how long they can keep that up before the spooks move in and turn them into another propaganda station, well, that remains to be seen.
All right, Tony, I know you didn't have a lot of time today.
I'd love to have you back.
I think we need to talk more about this situation.
There are some other sides to it that have to do with the Gulf of Oman and some other very interesting sides to it.
So perhaps we can try to schedule this while I'm here.
My conference is on the weekend.
I don't know if you're going to make it down, but thank you so much for coming on to the show.
Where are you all?
I'll be doing an Awaken Aware conference.
It's in High Elms in Watford.
I do it every year.
So, yeah, we give you a free ticket if you wanted to come down.
It sounds like an alternative Bilderberg.
This is where they were in 2013.
Oh, lovely.
It's worth mentioning, well, I'll say an alternative, I would say maybe even oppositional to Bilderberg, but look, it's worth mentioning we had something like 8,000 people turned up to the protest in 2013 at Bilderberg here in the UK. Yes, I spoke there.
I don't know if you knew that.
Yes.
Far, far more.
You know, in Montreux, it's quite frightening.
There were about three people protesting.
So Britain is the place the Bilderberg should be biting their nails about, you know, and worried.
The Brits are on to what they're doing.
And that is largely because the Bilderberg is really a Nazi construct.
Many of the original members in the 1950s were, as it turns out now, major figures in the Nazi party, major racists, major anti-Semites, people involved in confiscating property from Jews in Europe, these sorts of people.
And propaganda people were at Bilderberg in the 1950s, although the British politicians like Hugh Gateskill, who was the leader of the Labour Party at the time, didn't even know anything about their wartime history.
He was sitting down with these hardcore Nazis at Bilderberg in the 1950s.
So I think that's one of the reasons, because Britain was so obviously much involved in the Second World War, That we are a little bit more wary about sitting down with Nazis, especially when Bilderberg was chaired by a former SS officer for the first 20 years, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, who threw the battle by sending one of his spies in at the Operation Market Garden in Arnhem, the thermal bridge too far.
So there is an awareness in Britain, is all I'm saying Kerry, about Bilderberg.
Yes.
No, the people were fabulous in 2013.
It was really the people.
They only let 1,000 in, and there were 1,000 on the outside standing there in line, yes, with their kids.
The weather was fantastic, wasn't it?
Yes, yes.
Actually, for a change, yes, it was wonderful.
But we did have sharpshooters.
We had sharpshooters in the grass.
We had helicopters flying over us.
And it was an incredibly peaceful situation.
Myself, Alex Jones, David Icke spoke.
So it was quite an interesting, wonderful event, I have to say.
The BBC turned up to try and take the mickey out of the protest, and they were just...
Yes.
Yeah, that didn't fly.
So, listen, it's, again, wonderful to have you on the show.
Sorry for the technical things going on here.
We'll do it again soon.
Great.
That would be wonderful.
All right.
Thank you for the update.
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