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June 12, 2019 - Project Camelot

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RICHARD BARTLETT: PHYSICS, MATRIX ENERGETICS AND THE NATURE OF REALITIES

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	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Hamelot and very happy to be here tonight.
	I've got a fascinating guest, Richard Bartlett, and he has been on my show before, but it's been quite a while.
	So I wanted to have him back and we want to revisit what he has done in the past as well as what he's currently doing.
	So I'm going to bring him on the screen here with me.
	And Richard, can you just say hello to everyone?
	Hi everyone!
	Nice to be here.
	Okay, great.
	And hopefully the audience will let us know if we have any issues with sound or any of that.
	At my end, everything is fine.
	And I think at your end, things are good as well.
	So we'll just keep an eye on the chat and see if things change.
	So what I'm going to do is just look at your bio really briefly here.
	And then I'm going to ask you to augment this information.
	So it says, Dr.
	Richard Bartlett, Holds a doctorate in chiropractic from Parker Chiropractic College and a degree in naturopathic medicine from Bastyr University.
	Dr.
	Bartlett is the developer of Matrix Energetics, Master Energy Dynamics, and Holosynchronous Energetic Technology Systems.
	These paradigms utilize the principles and sciences of subtle energy and quantum physics, coupled with the incredible power of the active imagination and focused intent of a person to produce physically verifiable He has been teaching these systems at seminars around the world to thousands of participants since 2003 and has
	helped thousands of people transform themselves Through practice and national seminars, miracles that happen every day.
	And he has written several books.
	Matrix Energetics, the Science and Art of Transformation.
	And the other ones are also listed there.
	He also has an excellent partner who also teaches Matrix Energetics.
	And she was on my show with him last time.
	Her name is Melissa Joy.
	And she goes by that.
	And so they're both really...
	A formidable team.
	And so, Richard, what I'd like you to do is augment what I've just put out there and let us know, really, just in sort of brief, I know your whole life history.
	But you know what I mean?
	Because you have these really pivotal moments that I'm going to ask you to tell Even though we've told them before, because I think they bear repeating.
	They're so wonderful.
	Well, I have a lot of others we haven't told.
	All right.
	Oh, well, if you do, you know, go for it.
	So the floor is yours.
	Take it away.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think I'm particularly unusual or different, but what I am is stubborn.
	And so I've always thought that if something happened, it could be not necessarily explained, but it could be reproduced.
	And this is a key idea that when you have events happen in your life, I won't say at this point, because I don't know, I won't say they happen for a reason.
	I used to believe that.
	I've been studying now for a couple of years with a teacher who is, quote, awake, awakened, enlightened, whatever you want to call it.
	Basically, it looks like it's just the universe having a conversation with itself and things just naturally unfold.
	That said, things have unfolded in strange and wonderful ways in my life.
	I'm sort of looking like my old 17-year-old self.
	I started out at 13 playing bass and that's actually how I got my first girlfriend and how I even got a friend at all because I was very shy.
	And I played bass until about, oh, 20-something, 27, and disco came in.
	And when disco came in, they started putting jukeboxes into the clubs, and they didn't want to pay for live musicians.
	So all of a sudden, the only thing I knew how to do was gone.
	And I just had my first child.
	I have four.
	And so I had to get a new job.
	And it was very funny.
	I was working at a hospital.
	As a maintenance person, I had a big old floor buffer, and I was wearing a light blue jacket.
	I did have some pins in it, but no stethoscope.
	And this big old floor buffer, it's a huge thing, and two people came up and asked me, I'm sorry to bother you, doctor, but do you know where radiology is?
	They didn't see the buffer.
	They didn't see the off-color.
	They saw a doctor.
	So I started asking myself, well, maybe I'm a doctor.
	And I had a little problem.
	I wasn't very good with math, still not very good with math, even though I think everything that...
	Matrix energetics and holosets and all of that is higher dimensional math of some sort.
	We've got a friend, Peter Gary, a famous biophysicist in Russia, who said, that's fascinating, you must do the math.
	And I looked at him with the translator and said, no, you must do the math.
	I couldn't get into medical school because I couldn't do the math.
	I wasn't very good at the math.
	I was very good at science.
	And so I got into chiropractic school instead.
	When I got into chiropractic school, I thought that chiropractic was about being clairvoyant and correcting energy patterns.
	In fact, my chiropractor was clairvoyant, and he worked on all sorts of conditions, and that's who I learned from initially.
	When I got to school, my second child was born with bronchitis, asthma, allergies, and got pneumonia every third week of his life.
	And this was absolutely terrible because there wasn't anything I could do to help him.
	I took him to all the chiropractic greats in school that were teaching us.
	They couldn't help.
	We tried traditional medicine.
	That only made him more hyperactive and angry, but still had the problem.
	And then in my third year of chiropractic school, I had an encounter that changed my life.
	My lab partner couldn't be in the lab because she had an allergy to formaldehyde.
	And of course, cadavers are pickled in formaldehyde.
	And so for the first three semesters, she was not there with me.
	I don't know.
	I might not have gotten the anatomy right because I didn't have a partner to look over my work.
	But anyway, there she was, and she was fine.
	And she had her hands in the cadaver.
	I said, well, what happened?
	She goes, oh, I went and saw my TBM doctor, and he fixed me for my algae to formaldehyde.
	This is one of those breakthrough moments you were talking about, Terry, where I knew that was really important.
	And I called this guy up, Dr.
	Victor Frank, who has passed on now.
	I consider him practically like a father.
	And he considered me like a wayward son, I'm sure.
	I wanted to learn right away what he was teaching because I knew it would help my son.
	I just knew it.
	And he wouldn't let me because he said it would screw me up.
	I had to wait a year.
	And then I went and I took this seminar and in four days, what I learned, I went home and I applied it to my son, just like I was taught in the seminar, and he was well.
	And he was permanently well.
	Never had the problem ever again.
	Still.
	I did the techniques that were taught in the TBM seminar to my son, just like I was taught, and he was well.
	Well, sure, I can show you.
	Here's a representative example here, and let me see if I have it, just a minute.
	There's a double-headed activator, which I usually have right here.
	Let me, sorry, just a moment.
	It's probably on the floor, knowing the way things go around here.
	Yep, it is.
	Okay, so this thing here, and I still have it after all these years.
	My wizard's won one of them.
	And so he taught us about muscle testing, these reflexes, and then making corrections into the spine into certain prescribed ways.
	And he had kind of like a code for every organ.
	There was a correction.
	So I just did all the corrections for all the organs using my wife as a surrogate.
	You know, I had the little baby, you know, lying on her lap.
	Well, he's three years old by then, but still pretty little.
	And I tested and I fixed everything I found.
	And when I did, that was it.
	He was well.
	Now, this will get your attention.
	It'll get your attention.
	And it doesn't matter to me, really, talking about techniques.
	It doesn't matter if that happens every time to every person.
	It didn't matter to me at all.
	It helped my son.
	I think all of us are that way.
	We are selfishly motivated towards our family and ourselves.
	Often people go into...
	Medical school or whatever in order to you know fix themselves or someone that they're close to But that changed my life because Not only did I learn a technique that worked and and I helped a lot of people that way But I learned a way of thinking about patterns and energy and information still is with me today and Okay, well, wonderful.
	And so in terms of where your career went from there, because people are going to be, of course, wondering.
	And I do want to say, this is my disclaimer.
	I don't know, some people know that I was hit by a scalar weapon on the side of the face when I went to see, interview Mark Richards one of those times.
	And this is actually now several years ago.
	And Richard helped me through his technique, and so I wanted to thank him very much.
	I did have to use some other techniques.
	It was quite a complex situation, but there's no doubt about it.
	I love his books, and I highly recommend them, so I'm not an objective person.
	Observer in this case.
	I'm really a fan.
	And so I just wanted to say that.
	So in terms of where you went, you know, I love the story about the car and the bridge because that's just so miraculous, of course.
	And if you've got new stories, throw them in in whatever order you would like.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, the first thing...
	I can tell you, when that formaldehyde thing happened, when I learned that she'd fixed her allergy, I heard this kind of voice in my head, this is the answer.
	And this voice, which I don't know, it's just a part of the universe, I think, speaking, but it saved my life a number of times.
	There's the famous story about the car and the bridge.
	I was driving very fast to get to a Appointment with clients and I was, oh, four hours behind because it was a snowstorm.
	I was going about 85 miles an hour in blinding blizzard conditions in Montana.
	And I hit black ice on a bridge outside of Butte, Montana.
	And I slid out.
	I tried to correct, but I hit the bridge straight on at 65 miles an hour.
	I know because, you know, the natural thing when you're about to die, because I didn't have a You know, there was no fancy, there was just a lap strap.
	It was not a fancy car, it was an old vehicle.
	I knew I was dead, but guys are really funny, right?
	I wanted to see how fast I was going when I died, so I kind of peaked.
	It was 65 and I hit the bridge head-on and I wasn't, I don't even know if I was in the car at the time, there was like flashes of blue and white light and some sort of a, I don't know, a transposition and then When I came back, the car was sitting there.
	It was all crunched up, but I was uninjured.
	To this day, I can't explain that.
	I don't need to.
	I've seen a lot of other things.
	Montana's famous for icy areas.
	I slid off the road in Montana in a GTO, which is Not the greatest car to try and be on the road in Montana in the ice, but that's what I had.
	I slid off into a big ravine and I was sitting like this at literally like this angle with a big snow drift underneath my car and I was stuck.
	And the voice that I talk about, it told me, it's okay, just back up, put it in reverse, it was a four-speed, put it in reverse, and then put it forward, and rock it back and forth.
	And when we tell you, whoever we are, when we tell you, floor it!
	So I rocked it back and forth, and then I, now, and I floored it, and I shot out of the ravine.
	It was about a 12-foot ravine.
	Shot out of the ravine, up into the sky, Onto the road and didn't even feel myself touched down.
	So these are the sort of things, but it's extraordinary Yeah, and there's also the story About when you were a kid you didn't know karate or something and I mean your your whole life is just like one miracle after another and you've got guidance and all of this and You did work with a very famous psychic.
	Are you still working with her?
	I forget her name Elizabeth, is that right?
	Well, Elizabeth Clare-Prophet, she is, she was, call her a new age guru or whatever, I was her doctor.
	She has passed on.
	She developed Alzheimer's.
	That was another unfortunate story.
	The last time I saw her was the day I was going to go to naturopathic school.
	And she was seeing me for the last time.
	We were friends and she was also my patient, doctor-patient relationship.
	And then I was her, quote, Sheila student.
	She comes in and sits down and I go to treat her and I hear this voice say, she has Alzheimer's, you must tell her.
	And I'm like, I'm arguing with this voice.
	I said, no, she'll kill me.
	I'm not doing it right.
	And I said, you must.
	And I was like, and so she's sitting right in front of me.
	I'm going, uh-uh, no, you will.
	And so then I said it.
	And of course, that was the last time I talked to her.
	She got pretty upset with me.
	I diagnosed it.
	Well, I didn't diagnose it.
	Something did.
	Six years before she was diagnosed with it.
	And then she wound up completely losing her memory and being in extended care.
	And then she passed.
	I don't remember what year.
	And I never saw her again.
	Can I ask you something about that?
	Sure.
	Have you had any contact with her since she's left?
	Well...
	It's an interesting question because I'm not sure anymore what's going on with anything.
	I think that we're in a matrix of a virtual reality, and I've talked about it in my books that reality is a series of subsets of virtual planes of consciousness.
	So yeah, you could say I have, but not so I would say that I heard her.
	I read a book from Kent Michaels, a guy that I took over and I could verify that that was her authentically and she commented about me commenting about her.
	So I have those stories.
	We're all, we always have guidance, whether it's the universe just itself as a tapestry of consciousness, or its angels, or whatever it is.
	It's always there.
	We do, except that, you know, yours is actually, well, has a sense of humor, it seems, and also...
	It also is very pronounced, whereas other people, it seems at least from what the, you know, I talked to thousands of people, and their guidance is a lot more subtle, let's say.
	And some people can't hear their guidance, are not conscious of their guidance, and you are very conscious.
	There was that one man that showed up in the middle of the, was it the bridge or a street or something somewhere?
	Oh, you're talking about the vision of the Master El Morya, yeah.
	Yeah, that was not the bridge.
	That was another time.
	I was going down.
	I was taking my daughter home in Montana in the GTO again.
	A different GTO, I think.
	I was straight down an icy road like this.
	And I'm going down.
	This is about a month after Matrix Energetics kind of came into play.
	And there was this tall being with a turban.
	I recognized him as the Ascended Master El Morya, who had his hand up and was standing in the road.
	And then all of a sudden he was in the car and touched me on the forehead and said, I'll let you have what you want in this life if you promise never to raise your hand to any part of life.
	And I said, I promise.
	And he said, so let it begin.
	So the first thing that happened, I had a torqued ribcage because I have an extra vertebrae and my body kind of grew funny.
	I was told to put my hands on either side of my ribcage like this and All of a sudden my ribcage just torqued and corrected itself and it's been fine ever since.
	I used to be able to lay on my left side and couldn't sleep because I could hear my heart too loud because it was sitting right against my chest wall there.
	So that got corrected.
	That was one of the first, that was miraculous for me because it seems like like with shamans, for instance, they don't have that kind of A relationship with their own healing gifts where they get the benefit that everybody else does.
	But I got a tremendous benefit there.
	You also broke your leg on stage, didn't you?
	Something like that?
	And then it fixed itself?
	I had a miraculous healing like that.
	Not a spiritual thing.
	I was being stupid and I was spinning around like Jim Morrison during a Doors song and I forgot where I was and I stepped right off a four-foot stage onto my outstretched leg and tore the meniscus in my knee.
	And I immediately came back into conscious awareness.
	I was having a fine time being Jim Morrison and I found myself out of my body, not the way to do out-of-body travel, out of my body, floating on the ceiling, And I could see all these versions of myself, and some of them had broken legs, some of them had no legs.
	You know, Tim, Dad, you got no legs!
	There was just all these things.
	And the first version, I felt like crying.
	I was in terrible pain, by the way.
	I felt like crying, and so I went, mother.
	And then I realized my mother and I never were that close.
	And so then I thought, hospital, because I knew the sound of a torn cartilage, because I'd done it once before.
	That wasn't very useful, because I was going to have to give all these people their money back, and I like teaching.
	And finally, I had C. Coop, C. Everett Coop, the Surgeon General, come up in front of my face and say, help, I've fallen, I can't get up.
	This is all happening in probably the blink of an eye.
	And I laughed, and when I laughed, I saw these dominoes that looked like versions of me, parallel universes.
	I picked one that looked like it could walk, got back up on the stage.
	Ten days later, there was no sign of an injury whatsoever.
	So, that's cool.
	Yes, very, very, very cool.
	And I just want to say that, just for your edification, I actually fell down some stairs when I was a cocktail waitress in New York City at a jazz bar.
	And I had to be carried home to my apartment.
	I went into my apartment.
	My cat was sort of this miraculous little cat.
	I can't explain it, but I'll explain later why I say that.
	And the cat jumped on the bed, and like a miracle, my ankle, instead of being twisted and broken, I couldn't walk on it, all of a sudden healed itself, and I was fine.
	And then this guy whose place I was staying at was like a sublet.
	He came back and he was like in India.
	And he opened the door and there was my cat.
	And he was one of those multicolored cats.
	And he was a kitten.
	And he saw my cat and he fell instantly in love with my cat.
	Like rapturously in love and said, I must have your cat.
	And eventually I did give it to him because I didn't know where I was at that time where I was going to live.
	I was in my early 20s.
	So I just want to say miraculous healings do happen.
	It's really strange and I've had other things happen like that, but you're right.
	But you did this on stage in front of everybody, right?
	Yeah, well that was not smart and I'm not proud of it.
	It's not a good thing.
	It's an incredible thing.
	And these things are happening all the time with people, right?
	I mean, you guys are literally healing people in your seminars.
	You could tell some of those anecdotes if you like.
	Well, it's not so much those anecdotes that get my attention.
	It's more...
	Over the years, there's been a tendency for people to transcend their levels of limitation around what is possible.
	To me, that's one of the greatest miracles.
	It's not what happens in an individual interaction.
	It's the tapestry of awareness that unfolds or can unfold for a person once they've stared into the face of the abyss, so to speak, something that they can't explain, experienced it, and then become a part of that experience.
	I think that's the most important thing.
	What's great for me is it's not just me.
	In fact, I don't even consider myself to be a healer.
	I never use those words.
	It's the people that have taken the seminars that report over the years.
	We get to hear these stories off and on about these wonderful things that have happened.
	I have a best friend, William, who I love to talk about.
	He's taken, I don't know, 150 seminars or something with me because he became my best friend.
	Kind of was a bodyguard at one point.
	He has a lot of martial arts training, but he wasn't guarding me from other people.
	He was guarding me from myself.
	Because back in the early days of Matrix Energetics, I could be walking along and all of a sudden go into a spontaneous headstand.
	And I never knew when something like that was going to happen.
	So he would, thank God, he would be there if my body would spin in a circle or go flying off the stage.
	One time, I was teaching on stage.
	He was up there with me on stage.
	This was in, I think, Chicago.
	And all of a sudden, my feet levitated off the ground and turned at an angle about like this.
	And I thought, uh-oh.
	And then I started moving.
	And it probably happened in a second, but it seemed like it was very slow.
	I'm levitating towards him, and I thought, oh my god, I hope he's there to catch me.
	Well, he caught me.
	His feet lifted up off the ground.
	They turned at the same angle.
	We went flying off the stage.
	For some reason, there was a massage table off the stage.
	That massage table broke into hundreds of pieces right before we hit it.
	We like to say we think it was like a 900 pound dolphin playing games with us, but who the hell knows what was going on with that?
	That's just so amazing.
	You know, it's on film somewhere.
	That's one of the most amazing things I've ever experienced.
	I literally levitated, my feet turned at a very specific angle, and then he caught me and the same thing happened to him.
	And the table was...
	I mean, it was shattered into little tiny pieces.
	So maybe, you know, your book is wonderful.
	And the one thing I always liked about what you do is that you try to bring...
	You try to explain things in terms of physics, right?
	So you studied because you decided you wanted to communicate with the rest of the world what was happening to you and around you.
	And you also need to talk about the actual situation where people...
	I don't know if it's still happening, but they used to come up on stage and then they would actually sort of like faint out of this dimension or whatever and then come back and be healed.
	So can you explain all this?
	Assume that this audience doesn't know anything about you.
	I have no idea.
	I can explain what I think could be the cause, but I can't tell you it's true at all.
	I don't know.
	You know, the funny thing is, for my audience here listening, I feel totally normal.
	I may not look so totally normal right now, but I feel totally normal.
	I never feel energy.
	Well, not never, but most of the time, no.
	I don't see auras unless I do.
	And then when I do, I do.
	You know, just if I have to see something, I see it.
	But the thing is, I feel very, very normal, and I never think anything about it.
	And then, all of a sudden, I'll be interacting with somebody, and they'll just pass out.
	I'm not even teaching Matrix Energetics that much anymore.
	Melissa and I are teaching together in Europe in October and November, and I'm going to Moscow and teaching Holosets.
	But I was just in The IHOP yesterday, of all things, I got up and I told my son, let's go to IHOP. Now, I never go to IHOP. Not that I wouldn't eat there.
	I was in the mood for pancakes, so I ate them.
	But I went there, and there was this beautiful black man coming in with two white women.
	I don't know who they were.
	They were obviously very close.
	And he had a Band-Aid on his elbow.
	I look this way and I was wearing a fluorescent pink hat and I said, excuse me, what's wrong with your elbow?
	And he said, oh, they told me it's carpal tunnel.
	I looked at him.
	I said, no, it's not carpal tunnel.
	Your elbow hurts because it's your shoulder.
	You know, I could probably fix that for you.
	I can do things, you know.
	And my son's next to me, my 34-year-old son who lives with me.
	He goes, dad, dad, dad, you know, calm down.
	I was like, no, no.
	And then the guy, the guy, I backed him up against the wall, and I worked on his shoulder right there for a few seconds.
	And he said, oh, my goodness, it feels better.
	And he kept thanking me.
	And I probably just went to the IHOP just to meet this guy.
	So who knows?
	Who knows what's going on ever?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, well, it sounds like the sort of wildness has continued and you've really just gone with it, which is wonderful.
	So can you explain in a little bit more of a conventional sense?
	Because, you know, at this point you are...
	Way out there for some people.
	Not for me, okay?
	I can totally, you know, I'm there with you.
	But I know that some people will be wondering, like, what exactly happens at your seminars with these people?
	So you may not explain what's happening exactly, but you do do time travel, like you've written books, and you explain a process in which people basically, as you said, you saw several versions of yourself.
	You can count back.
	To when the injury happened.
	And then you can actually decide if you want to have it or not.
	And if you don't, then you can not have it.
	And this sort of thing.
	I mean, these are healing methods that have been working for you.
	Can you explain the nature of a seminar?
	So, like, let's say that some of the people listening want to come to your seminars.
	What would they experience?
	Well, the Matrix seminars are not, like I said, I'm not teaching them in the United States right now.
	And that's more of the...
	Kind of experience where people go unconscious, spin in circles, see colors, God only knows what, healings occur.
	That all occurs in any seminar I'm in because it's just part of a field effect.
	But the basic thing that I would tell people, there's something called morphic fields, morphic resonance.
	Rupert Sheldach has written extensively about it.
	And I think that that explains most of What we call healing, most even of what we call physics.
	The Russian physicist, my friend Peter Garib, the biophysicist, talk about torsion fields.
	Imagine, you know, like, well, if you flush your toilet, for instance, and you see the spinning, you know, suction as it goes down, that's a torsion field.
	Tornadoes, those are torsion fields.
	Torsion fields, they have an electromagnetic component that can be conveyed.
	That's the effect that you can see or measure, but the torsion field itself is information-based.
	And this is the thing where I think people have really limited themselves in the so-called healing techniques and arts, is they think what they're doing is based on the transfer of energy.
	That is an old physics model, Newtonian model, that actually doesn't hold up to what's actually happening.
	What seems to be happening, now I have a friend, God, if I can remember Claude's name.
	I'll remember his second name in a minute.
	But Claude, he has two physics degrees, one from MIT and I think one from Cornell.
	And he's a good friend of mine.
	Claude Swanson.
	He's even written about me in his book, one of his books.
	He said that the model that people have for healing is an electromagnetic model, but he said if you were projecting energy at a distance, you would die before you would have a measurable effect.
	It cannot be based upon the transfer of light or energy or photon.
	It has to be information-based because it has to be something that can take place at a distance with no loss of the original energy.
	It also has to be able to go backwards in time.
	These are all things tortured fields can do.
	The Germans, the Russians, and the United States, and so on.
	We've all experimented with torsion fields.
	I think it's Tesla technology.
	And I even suspect, as I've told people in seminars, I suspect the physics we've been taught is deliberately taught wrong, so that we cannot unlock the secret space program, we cannot unlock how to heal ourselves, cannot unlock the technology of clairvoyance and telekinesis and levitation, all these things.
	But they are explainable from the field physics model, which I've written about.
	Back when I wrote my book, The Physics of Miracles, I was the only person that I know of on Amazon that was talking about torsion field physics, other than the Russian research, which again was all in Russian.
	It's been pretty suppressed, but I do believe that There's two sets of physics.
	There's an extraordinary physics that explains everything that I see happening and everything we see in what you've talked about, the Secret Space Program, and other things.
	And then there's the physics that we've been taught, which really can't do any of that.
	And it's kind of a sham physics that perhaps the Rockefeller Foundation or something has put forth to keep people dumbed down.
	So that kind of crosses into your You're around what you've talked about and what I understand about it.
	Because quantum physics does not explain people spinning in a circle, going unconscious, seeing pretty lights, or levitating on a stage.
	It does not explain it.
	I will say with quantum physics, which is where I started with the model, is there cannot be two sets of laws.
	If we're made of photons, these are just densely packed photons, and photons obey the laws of quantum physics.
	So therefore, if we're talking about quantum physics as being a viable physics that explains these things, then we must be able to then affect things through the act of observing, the observer effect, as they call it, or quantum entanglement.
	That part in matrix energetics I taught, that was where the original model was, but I don't think the model is accurate, and I'm not sure, honestly, that any model of physics is at all accurate.
	I think it's the universe playing games with us.
	Okay, well, it sounds like maybe you're getting into the whole holographic notion of reality and that this is a simulation, that type of thing.
	Yeah.
	I think the whole thing is a simulation.
	This is what the great sages, Nisargadatta, Ramana Maharshi, I like Jed McKenna.
	I've mentioned him once before.
	These beings who are awake, they all say that what you're seeing is just what you're perceiving that you've been taught to perceive and what your limited brain is able to put together as a view of reality that is coherent and congruent with your belief system.
	If you drop away all the beliefs around something, what you perceive might indeed be very different.
	And this is where I think what I have taught, and what Melissa and I have taught, and what I'm still teaching to some degree, transcends those limitations at an unconscious level.
	So that people can experience something that is outside of their model.
	Their model, then, they realize to be limited by experience, by direct experience.
	And once they've had that direct experience, They can't go back to the old model because it conflicts now with their new knowledge.
	Right.
	So, in terms of what you're doing in Russia, like, what are you trying to say that you are actually, because you've said several times now, you're not teaching in the U.S. That's kind of a loaded statement.
	Is there a problem with teaching in the U.S. that has cropped up?
	And why are you going to Russia?
	What's going on there?
	Well, first thing is, in Europe, Matrix Energetics is still very popular.
	Matrix Energetics is popular all over the world.
	But it's been so popular that countless numbers of people have basically taken the technology and named it something else, or even called it matrix energetics and taught it illegally.
	So they've diffused it so much that I actually can't make a living doing that anymore, quite honestly.
	And it kind of takes the joy out of it when you can't afford to do it.
	It's still there.
	It's still a part of life.
	It's still doing miracles.
	People are still having wonderful effects.
	And when we go to Europe, there'll be big crowds.
	It's the difference between having 30 people here in the United States and having 300 in Italy.
	It's a very noticeable difference.
	Holoset, which I'm teaching, Holosynchronous Energetic Technology Systems, is based upon a whole other set of technologies that I've not even ever talked with you about.
	So, I had another experience with a healer.
	Okay, continue, but also please do talk about Holosync if you haven't talked about it.
	We're happy to hear about it.
	Yeah, Holoset, basically what it is, here's an example, a physical example.
	It's a technology that utilizes, call it sacred geometry, and trans-dimensional consciousness to create what you would call almost like virtual reality subsets of programs that can be activated with your intent.
	And so these things I learned from another fantastic teacher who changed my life, the other one that really changed my life.
	His name was Dr.
	M.L. Rees, R-E-E-S. He's another chiropractor.
	When I met him, he was creating things that looked like this, and he was programming them with virtual reality beings, that's the way I see it, and with techniques and technologies that are not of this world, I'm pretty sure, and healing cancers and all sorts of diseases.
	Well, I also studied with him and I was personally, quote, initiated by him and to his order back a number of years ago.
	And I had some amazing experiences with his technology, but his technology was so powerful and somewhat alien, it scared me.
	And so I kind of backed away from it when I had a gray Captain in a ship that was following me say he really liked something was in my medical bag.
	I was like, okay, it's a gray area for me for these ships to be following me around.
	And so I stopped playing with that, even though again, very powerful.
	And then one day, years later, I was in my office, you might have heard this part, I was in my office and these two pillars of light that I could physically see.
	Came into the office and said, it's time to recreate that technology.
	And I was like, I tried to play dumb, right?
	I knew what they were talking about.
	I was like, what technology?
	And they thundered like out of a cloud, you know, like a Moses sort of thing.
	You know what technology?
	We're like, ah!
	And so I was on the ground, literally shaking in my office.
	This is on a Saturday afternoon.
	And so the next day, Mark Dunn, the guy that We did a lot of experiments on and my dear friend for 10 years, we started to recreate Dr.
	Reese's technology and we did it in a very crude manner and we taught a little bit of that in matrix energetics.
	So then we taught that and then I kind of let it go a bit more except for I kept doing it a bit and then one day about I think it's been six years now about six years ago in the middle of the night four o'clock in the morning here's this voice thing again right Get up!
	And it says, and again, and they said, go online.
	And I actually went on my iPad and find something that can create geometries.
	So I found this program that with my finger, I could create geometries.
	And all of a sudden, like automatic writing, my finger started drawing these patterns.
	I went, oh, no, I know what this is.
	I know what this is.
	And it was Dr.
	Reese's technology, again, coming back in a different way.
	Now, the story gets much more bizarre.
	So I started playing with this.
	I've worked with clients with this through Skype.
	I used it extensively.
	I understood it.
	And it kept getting more and more powerful and more specific.
	And I can now see it running like a virtual reality program.
	And I can see areas where it stops and it needs to have something done and then it starts up again.
	Very cool stuff and very, very powerful.
	So, about probably four years ago, as I'm doing all this, I get a call from another clairvoyant friend of mine.
	I won't even mention her name because she's very private.
	But she basically says, Richard, I have a Dr.
	M.L. Reese on the party line for you.
	Now, Dr.
	Reese died in 1990, I think.
	And this was a few years ago.
	And so the next voice I heard on the phone was Dr.
	Reese talking through her, channeled basically.
	I said, Richard!
	Richard!
	You know, and basically she was in meditation that morning, early that morning.
	And all of a sudden there's this guy in front of her and he was fascinated.
	She could see him and she could hear him.
	And then she said, he asked, is there anybody I can talk to?
	And she mentioned me and he knew me.
	So I had this two hour conversation with this person that had passed over.
	And I showed him what I was doing.
	He approved of it.
	He, in fact, told me...
	Because what he did is he went all around the world and made these things from sacred sites and little bits of gemstones and various pieces that he would create together into a matrix.
	He said, if I'd been able to do that back then, I wouldn't have had to claim all the enduring mountains.
	And he gave me special instruction from beyond the grave.
	See?
	It's just silly stuff, right?
	And I started doing...
	Even more of that, and I can show you some of these, they're extremely powerful.
	And I realized this whole technology, I wasn't going to escape from it, so I finally just stopped trying, right?
	And now we've got three levels that I'm teaching of this, and we've had miracle after miracle with that, with people when they learn it.
	I have one dear friend who, she loves animals.
	I call her the female St.
	Francis.
	And she had a possum that was lying, she thought, dead in the road.
	And she stopped, and she's got such a kind heart.
	She wanted to pull the possum out of the road so nobody else had run over it, and it moved.
	So she thought, oh, God.
	So she put it in a box, and she took it home with her.
	On the way home, she used some of the technology that we teach in Holosets.
	And she left it in the box, and...
	Went upstairs, went to bed.
	She expected it to be dead in the morning.
	No.
	It was out of the box and running around fine.
	And now she has a possum in her house.
	She also has something like 26 dogs or something.
	That's great.
	But there's been tremendous things that have happened with that as well.
	And it's a little more technical.
	It's less, you know...
	I think people would find it easier in some ways with their educations to grasp the matrix energetics, but it still has that immense power and playfulness of matrix energetics as well, which really shocked me because I didn't know I didn't know it was going to have its own field.
	Everything has its own field.
	There's the field of medicine.
	There's the field of agriculture, etc., etc.
	Well, this has its own field and it has its own power and its own virtual reality subset of beings as well.
	Okay, so you're saying it's a kind of a geometry.
	Is that what you're trying to say?
	Let me show you.
	I'll show you a couple of examples.
	I have a friend now who does these because she's way better at it than I am.
	But it's more than a geometry.
	It's radionics.
	You're familiar with radionics, yes?
	Yes.
	Basically, every line in it, every color, the way every angle meets creates a precision that creates an energetic field that is essentially like a computer software.
	And so it's extremely powerful.
	Hold on a minute.
	I've got to find it on my iPad.
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	I'll just show you.
	I'll show you some from...
	Yeah, here's one.
	DNA structural repair.
	There's one there.
	And so each one of these things have their own...
	Okay, this looks a lot like also stuff, just FYI, that Ashiana Dean does.
	Actually, she's a graphic artist and generates this sort of thing.
	But it's also something that looks like a mandala, you know, from India.
	These things were drawn with a person's finger in a meditative state.
	Cool.
	With an iPad.
	Yeah.
	And they're each one created, like this one's for liver regeneration.
	They're each one created to do the specific things that they're created for.
	And once they're created, Carrie, they have a very powerful...
	It's like having a server.
	Everybody that's ever taken the course, it gets more and more powerful.
	And you have more and more access to this scaling technology just because it's being taught and people are using it.
	Which is true of any things, by the way.
	Sorry, my dog just decided to start playing with her toy, so I had to take it away because it's very...
	My principal dog is sleeping at my foot here.
	Oh, okay.
	So, a little more calm than my dog.
	I don't know.
	What you're talking about is getting my dog excited.
	She's kind of running around the room.
	That's the problem, yeah.
	So, anyway.
	But, yes.
	Okay.
	So, that's fascinating.
	I mean, it...
	It kind of sounds like something that the Native Americans do with what you call sand painting.
	Have you heard of that?
	No, no, no, no.
	Calm down.
	You can't come on the show.
	My dog, she's like, you know, freaking out over here.
	So, okay.
	Maybe she knows you have a dog.
	My dog's very psychic.
	So, okay, honey, no, no, no, shh, no, shh.
	No?
	Stop this?
	Okay, I can't.
	Whatever.
	Anyway, so continue with this.
	Why are you taking this to Russia?
	Why are you taking it to Russia?
	And how did you get invited to Russia?
	Well, I'm going to Germany and Italy with Melissa, and Russia wants me there.
	The lady there that is our promoter absolutely loves me.
	My friend Peter Gariev is in Russia.
	I love the Russian people.
	They often, for years, the Russians have come across the border from Russia to Germany to attend seminars when we teach in Germany.
	And so we've always had this great affinity with the Russian people, and they particularly love me for whatever reason.
	And they want this material, so I'm gonna go teach it.
	Wonderful.
	If you ask me nicely and you have enough people that want to come, I will come.
	Excellent.
	Well, I've been to Russia and both Moscow and St.
	Petersburg, and I also love the Russian people and have an affinity for Russia in that way.
	So they are very advanced.
	They're very open to new ideas, and especially anything that comes from multiple realities, other dimensions, anything to do with stuff like that.
	They're very, very open to it, unlike, well, Americans for one thing.
	But anyway, I hope that's changing.
	I think it's changing to some degree.
	So you are focusing your energy on Europe and Russia.
	Is that what you're saying, in essence?
	I teach small seminars here in the United States every month, sometimes twice a month.
	But they're very small compared to the old Matrix Energetics seminars, and they're very personal, too.
	We work on people's conditions.
	We teach about working with blood sugar and heart conditions and various things.
	It's much more oriented towards learning how to heal yourself, heal others.
	It's very appropriate for practitioners of any kind, but it's also appropriate for anybody that has the interest.
	So, in terms of, have you written, like, I've read some of your books.
	I don't know if you've written any new books, and are you writing about this, I'm sorry, what is it called?
	It's called Holosets, and it's funny, Carrie.
	My CFO said, we've got to have a name for this right now, and woke me up from a sound sleep, and I just channeled that.
	So, that's what it's called, because it's Holosynchronous Energy Technology Systems.
	It's a mouthful, just call it Holosets.
	Okay, very good.
	Oh, have you written a book about it?
	No, and you know, it's a little different when you're 44 versus 65 to write a book.
	It takes a lot out of you.
	I suppose if I had compelling reasons to do so, and I may do it, I could.
	I've got lots of material that I could write, and I'm kind of being pushed that way, and you mentioned it now, and that's the universe kind of talking rather loudly.
	So maybe, but I haven't done it at this time.
	Melissa has written about seven books, however, I think, at the last count.
	She is very prolific, and she's always writing, which is wonderful.
	Okay, well, just let me put a vote in because, you know, there's right brain, left brain, okay, people, as you know, and you're both, I mean, people are both, but people tend to favor one or the other.
	So you're more right brain, she's more left brain.
	This is my interpretation, having met her and read her book, by the way.
	It's a way of thinking.
	And so I want to say for the right brain people like me, that it's easier to grasp when you write than just if you're more kind of, you know, it's...
	It comes easier.
	It's more easy to understand.
	You can grok it, if you understand, you know, using that word, grok.
	You can grok it a lot easier if you're a right-brained person through your writing, okay?
	I have to say, by the way, I'm necessarily right-brained.
	Going through medical school twice, you kind of have to have a pretty active left brain.
	Yeah.
	I'm probably more left-brained.
	No, you're not.
	No, you're not.
	I'm sorry.
	You're not.
	I mean, I think, you know, it's not like you're in a depth on the left brain.
	Obviously, you're good at it.
	But there are certain telltale signs when a person is right or left and you kind of give yourself away.
	So I'm not going to get into it right here, you know, but just a little more of an artist, a little more of an artist than a scientist, but you're still a scientist.
	I'm not taking that away from you.
	It's a thing.
	I think what it is for me is that I've studied everybody's communication sets.
	I've studied with great communicators and I'm a decent one myself.
	And so I tend to speak to a person at the level that a person might be able to hear me at for that individual conversation.
	So that conversation will actually vary depending upon who's in front of me.
	Okay, but a book has to go out to a variety of people, right?
	That's why you write it in a language like that.
	Yes.
	So anyway, just a vote of confidence to say, you know, and she found another toy.
	So anyway, she likes this conversation, my dog.
	Alright, so in terms of what has been happening around you, can you say that there is a pronounced change?
	Because when you affect the field, I think perhaps you can agree with this type of statement.
	When you affect the field, the field around you changes.
	And therefore, you and Melissa and your seminars have been affecting the field around you now for a prolonged period of time.
	I can't even remember how many years ago it was, but I think it's like something like four years ago.
	Thirty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play.
	I've been working for 30 years.
	Right.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And do you feel that there is more receptivity out there now than there has been maybe in prior years?
	Do you feel that at all?
	Not really, no.
	The funny thing is...
	Well, I'll give you an example.
	It's very interesting to me.
	I had a whole family that came to a seminar recently, a small seminar, I think I was in Minneapolis, came from Canada, and they'd never met me before.
	They did not know me.
	All of a sudden, out of the blue, The husband decided to get on the internet and start, because he was having a lot of pain and he was depressed.
	I didn't know all this.
	But anyway, he found a video of me and this voice, this voice said out of the cloud, said, go, just go.
	You've got to go meet him.
	And he packed his family up and they all got in the car and they drove from wherever the hell they were from in Canada to the seminar.
	As soon as I met him, he's sitting in the seminar.
	It's a small seminar.
	Every time I raised my hand, he would jerk and kind of go into trance or pass out or all sorts of things would happen.
	And it turned out that He had actually considered committing suicide when he got home if this didn't help.
	He was in such pain, his life was in pain, his body was in pain, and his mind emotions were in terrible pain.
	He said he felt like a completely new person inside and out when he left.
	I kept playing with him a little bit here and there.
	These things, you can't explain them from a model of receptivity, I think.
	They're more like the universe gathers together.
	It's like Jesus said, you know, come and my sheep know my voice or whatever.
	The field that is associated with this finds those that are in need, finds those that have that level of receptivity.
	And I think I think all of us are part of the same universal expression, and so I wouldn't say that someone's more or less receptive, or that a planet even is.
	I think it's just the unfolding of the universe in a continuing narrative.
	Okay, so, but in terms of what you're experiencing, because, well, let me say this.
	I can tell by the way you are now sort of dressing and looking that something has changed in your universe because you look different.
	Can you appreciate that?
	I'll tell you why I look different.
	I'm in a small town.
	They went to cut my hair.
	They did a terrible job.
	I've got three colleagues.
	I tried it one more time.
	They botched it worse, and I said, to heck with it.
	I'll just let it go.
	There's nobody that's competent to cut my hair anywhere else, and I found I could still grow hair, and so I just let it.
	Really nothing has changed there.
	I haven't changed that much.
	I might look a little different, but if I cut my hair, I'd probably still look like that picture, because it was only taken about three or four years ago.
	No, it's just kind of a thing.
	I just got bored.
	I've done this, Carrie, my whole time with people.
	I have seen other pictures where you have changed your appearance, so I appreciate that, but I'm not going to agree with you.
	I have to say that, you know, intuitively, I know that if a person changes their appearance, I don't care how it happens, right?
	There's a statement being made and there is a shift.
	So, I am going to invite my audience to ask questions.
	And anyone put your questions in all caps.
	We do have a live audience here.
	And they are in a chat room where they can type questions.
	So, that's how it works.
	So, I'll read the questions aloud when and if I see any.
	So please, everyone, do that if you're interested.
	And is there anything in terms of what you're looking at in the future that is different?
	Because we are, for example...
	We're facing a rollout of 5G that involves microwave radiation that is not a positive thing for humanity, in my view.
	And there's other things going on as well in terms of...
	There was a bug on my table.
	In terms of artificial intelligence, so can you talk about how you're thinking about dealing with artificial intelligence right now and the rollout of 5G? I'm really not thinking at all anymore, honestly, Kerry.
	My teacher, who is again awake, actually awake out of the dream, he's personally sponsoring me and that is my goal to actually die before I die.
	The old thing of I die daily.
	I want to actually find the truth of this reality, which is not found in this reality, and cannot be found with the mind, because the mind is part of the perception of this reality.
	So it's a very noble and powerful goal I have, but it's not a goal that I myself can achieve.
	The universe can awaken within me, as Adnashanti says, but I cannot awaken.
	So that's where my focus is actually.
	And that's primarily where my awareness has been for 12 years, I'd say. - Okay, so I appreciate that.
	And it's kind of no different than simply saying that, you know, you want to reach enlightenment.
	I mean, it doesn't matter what words you use.
	I appreciate the kinds of words you're using here.
	But in other words, That's fine.
	But what has that got to do with 5G? And, you know, because I appreciate, you know, there is a lot of...
	I actually talked to a scientist from Czechoslovakia named Loki, who you might enjoy talking to.
	He's a lovely man.
	Do you know him?
	I'd like to talk to his brother.
	Poor.
	No, no.
	But it's just, Loki is just Czechoslovakian, short for something much more evolved.
	Yeah, sure.
	But he was a physicist, went through all the conventional training, etc., in Czechoslovakia.
	I believe that's where it was.
	And basically also worked in Russia, by the way.
	And he eventually left all those models behind and now he is involved in a whole new kind of science and things that you would probably relate to very well.
	And he's quite an elderly man at this point.
	And so what he's talking about is torsion physics.
	And also affecting the field around us and basically coming into resonance and being able to harmonize these radiation fields that are being kind of rolled out around us with regard to 5G and with regard to...
	Well, what's in essence going to be a platform for various artificial intelligence.
	So are you willing to talk about that?
	Are you not willing to think about it or talk about it?
	I don't really...
	It doesn't really get my attention anymore because there's nothing I could personally do about it.
	And the thing that...
	I go with what Jed McKenna said.
	If you want to save the whales, first become enlightened or awakened or whatever you want, then lucky whales.
	Whatever you focus your attention on once you're at that level of awareness is going to completely change your perception of the problem state or the solution or the problem-solution mindset.
	I just do what I'm called to do and how I'm called to do it, and I always have.
	And I will tell you, though, interestingly enough, talking about Russia and torsion field physics, our friend Peter Garia, at one point when they had this false flag craziness going on about Ebola, the Ebola scare that they were trying to pull, I asked Peter about it, and Peter said to me, he said, Richard, he goes, bring me a, if someone could bring me a little bit of Ebola in a vial, I could use that to create a remedy, and I could wipe it out.
	And your 5G network could convey something like this as well, which is both the danger and the wonder of technology like that.
	I could wipe it out in the entire planet if I had a sample of it.
	Now, that's an enormous amount of power, and that's a lot more powerful than 5G. That's the power of quantum potential, which Boehm talked about.
	But the 5G technology and the chemtrails and all that, I've talked about this for years, You can weaponize this grid And once you weaponize this grid, you can control minds, you can control bodies, you can cause people to drop dead, you can create diseases.
	But if you had a beneficial mindset, you could also create mass healing and awakening.
	So it's an interesting thing.
	It's a two-edged sword.
	And I don't know all the ins and outs of it.
	My thought is, interestingly enough, I'll tell you this, when I went to Russia, this is fascinating.
	In Germany, there's all these chemtrails crisscrossing all over the place.
	You go across the border into Russia, there's not a single one.
	At least there wasn't one of the times I've been there, which is three times now.
	So they know something, and they're doing something differently.
	And they've had access to this scalar technology and wave thinking for a long time.
	I can't tell you.
	that particular rabbit hole doesn't impress me as much as diving into my own death, so to speak, of perception.
	It is worthwhile in the sense that it is affecting our world and people are concerned about it.
	So, yeah.
	It doesn't necessarily...
	In other words, I'm actually a bit like you.
	I don't preoccupy myself with sort of horrendous visions of the future because I figure if it happens, then it's kind of...
	It's just a new challenge to deal with because I actually see us as having unlimited potential and as beings.
	And I believe that we haven't really tapped into even half or even a quarter of our full potential.
	And I do believe that we are the ones that are going to change reality ultimately.
	And that we'll just live wherever we want to live.
	Whether it's on earth or not is kind of just beside the point.
	But nonetheless, because I have an audience and because that audience...
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Get yourself into a state where none of this affects you, okay?
	This is what I'm talking about.
	But the trouble is that people, I'm just saying that people would rather, you know, go down to a store, buy a whole suit of clothing that will cover them from head to toe.
	They want to, you know, they want to buy a machine.
	I mean, humans are very into machines of all kinds and so on.
	So, in a sense, you already are providing the remedy or a path towards the remedy for this and a lot of other things in our environment and in terms of dis-ease, whether it's physical...
	Environmental, you name it.
	There are solutions.
	But what's happening out there is that a lot of people refuse to actually explore, be explorers in the same way you are, let's say.
	Okay?
	So I'm not suggesting a solution to that necessarily, but I am suggesting Pitching it towards you because I think, you know, you want to be relevant, right?
	And it's great if you're going down your own road in your own private Idaho.
	But I think that it also behooves us to have a conversation with the rest of, you know, the universe and reality here.
	And I think you have some wonderful approaches that can be valuable to people.
	So if you will continue to dialogue with them...
	It would be great.
	And so, you know, it's just a thought.
	Now, in terms of...
	Go ahead.
	The way I look at this, you look at models like Jesus, whether he existed or not, we don't know.
	We don't have historical references.
	But the model is one of first you get to a certain level of awareness, which everything I've ever experienced has been given to me, loaded into me, or however you want to put it.
	Brought to me.
	And then I bring it to others.
	You get to that level of awareness.
	What's possible there versus what you think is possible here.
	And then when you go to there, it's not that...
	What did the Buddha say?
	It's something...
	You're not going to go to there.
	There comes to you.
	And when there comes to you, everything changes perceptually.
	And then, who knows what's possible?
	And this is what keeps me awake at night.
	This is what gets me up early in the morning.
	This is what keeps me meditating, keeps me motivated.
	It's helping In any way possible at every moment and if everyone were to just focus on that then I believe the universe would just unfold naturally and I just don't look at the like the poisons and food this that and the you can't avoid looking at the chemicals in the air because that can annoy you but I mean Not to be in that vibration, I think this is what the scientist is talking about.
	You transcend the perceptions of that vibration, not to ignore them, that's a whole different animal.
	If you actually transcend it, there are things that are possible that we can't even imagine.
	And that's where I want to see, that's where I would like to go.
	Although what the sages say is when you get there, there's no you that's left, but that's okay too.
	Washington.
	Washington.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What they're bringing me there for, to teach them how to interact with themselves, with their reality, with their loved ones, and how to bring certain technologies of patterns of information into healing and transformation.
	is what I always think about.
	Absolutely.
	Theoretically, that's absolutely so.
	There's something else I'd like to mention that I think is quite amazing that I still can't explain.
	But there's something that I'm calling psycho-emotional energetics.
	Melissa and I have taught it a little bit.
	I teach it as another...
	I have another name for it when I'm not teaching with Melissa.
	But basically, our field, our personal fields...
	Our 360 degrees around us, and all of our references for our physical reality, our emotions, our mentality, and our beliefs, I think, are organized geometrically around us.
	I have been able, through this new technology, and I've been able to teach it to many people, in seconds, I call it my Jedi mind trick, move lifelong patterns of emotional distress, pain, suffering, Rape, all sorts of things you can't even imagine.
	By just moving, and I don't even do it.
	It happens kind of like your dog comes to you because your dog loves you.
	It's kind of like this field loves you.
	But instantly, changing a pattern where it almost, you can feel it spiral off a person and drop to the ground or dissipate.
	And then you can look at them, you can watch their physiology and know it's different.
	In fact, they'll often laugh When they try and go back to this very traumatic pattern because they can't find it.
	It's like if a person were blind and they go out to get groceries and while they're gone, you rearrange all the furniture in their house so that they don't know where anything is.
	That is another technology that was given to me.
	I was stepping off the stage in Denver about three, four years ago and boom, this thing came into my consciousness and I understood it a little bit right then.
	But it has proved to be one of the most powerful things I've ever seen.
	And I don't know what the limits of that technology are, but it might be one of the most important things I've ever brought to the world.
	Okay, well, are you talking about the technology, well, you're calling it a technology, but are you talking about something as simple as point of view?
	No.
	No.
	It's like, here you and I are...
	I'll give you an example.
	I had this gentleman who was...
	He was a Vietnam War veteran.
	He had high blood pressure, high blood sugar, cardiac arrhythmia, insomnia, very severe depression, and pain in his body.
	He had seen his entire platoon killed in front of him in Vietnam.
	And he didn't know me.
	It was just an internet thing.
	He didn't know me.
	Somebody knew me and got him an appointment.
	They sit in front of me and I thought, well, I don't know what's going to happen here.
	And I just did this Jedi mind trick thing.
	And if you could imagine, like, here's things all ranged all around you.
	And I just moved them.
	I didn't even move them.
	They moved themselves.
	I watched them move.
	And he looked at me and he goes, what happened?
	It's gone.
	I can't hear it or see it anymore.
	And all of a sudden, All that trauma, 50 years or more of trauma, it was gone.
	He could not access it at all, like it had never been.
	And I saw him a couple weeks later, he sent about 10-15 people to me.
	I saw him and he said, you know, my blood pressure's gone down, my blood sugar's gone down, I'm sleeping at night, I'm not depressed.
	It was one of those things.
	Totally miraculous.
	It's one of the things where I can't tell you I'm doing anything.
	And the people I've taught it to, they get the same result.
	It's like teaching a dog a new trick, and the dog's the field.
	And once it knows the trick, it just does it.
	Quite phenomenal.
	Yeah, I understand.
	So basically what happens is you are...
	It's more of an arranged meeting, if you will, between you, the two souls.
	And what you're actually doing is you're kind of like a catalyst...
	To basically allow them to enter into this way of, or this mode of being that they have total access to.
	They just, in essence, kind of have closed a materialistic door in front of themselves.
	And you're just opening the door by arrangement because they need to see something outside themselves, a manifestation where it actually looks like something happened.
	So they embody you with, you know, sort of Empower you with allowing you to own that because also you're not on a power trip, so you won't attach yourself to that power, so to speak.
	It's simply allowing it to come through.
	But it comes through you.
	It can come through you.
	So healers understand this.
	A healer isn't really healing anybody.
	It's simply an agreement.
	You're a facilitator to allow them to To access their power and the power of the universe, the power of the multiverse, whatever you want to call it.
	So it's legitimate and it makes perfect sense.
	But if you want to try to explain it in any kind of terminology that people, you know, scientists, for example, might want to do that, then you might want to talk about, I'm just throwing this idea out.
	If you're familiar with The idea of the fifth dimension, you know, Einstein talked about the fifth dimension as being real.
	Okay, now I think there's multiple endless numbers of dimensions, really, but for the purposes of this, you know, a lot of people can, they can talk about 3D, what we are in, in supposedly this time space, 4D, which we are supposedly also accessing, and then 5D, which is It actually sounds like what you're really doing is accessing the 5D, and that's where a lot of these technologies, you're calling them technologies.
	I probably wouldn't call them those, but it doesn't matter what you call them.
	But anyway, you know what I'm saying?
	So have you thought about it that way at all?
	I don't care to anymore because...
	I mean, I can take anybody.
	See, I see people now on Skype that have never met me before.
	I don't have time to explain anything other than, I'm going to hold my hand in the ear, you're going to follow this, and you're going to feel something change, and then you're not going to be able to find that anymore.
	And that's all the discussion we need to have.
	Because it happens so readily, so reproducibly, and so miraculously that I just don't.
	I don't make any bones about any of it anymore.
	It's kind of like I'm not here to explain anything.
	I'm here to, like you said, facilitate a possibility, but I don't consider myself to be doing anything.
	It's like this, Kerry.
	If this is where their trauma is and suddenly it's here, they can't see it anymore and it's not there.
	That's what it is.
	It's like if you were on a merry-go-round and the horse was here and the horse was here, You can't find that coordinate anymore.
	If you're used to going to your house in a certain way, and suddenly your house doesn't exist at that coordinate, you can't find that house anymore.
	It's like that.
	It's like some sort of weird spiritual GPS that gets Well, it's also like, you know, leaping or, you know, like quantum leaping or something someone could say.
	And these are just ways of trying to, you know, explain so people might be able to grasp it as a concept.
	But I do think, you know, some of us are facilitators, especially in these ways.
	And I agree.
	And I think a Making things possible that if they weren't in the room, let's say, temporarily, it's like they can come, you know, they appear to the person.
	If you do it over Skype, that's a virtual reality, but you're appearing to the person on Skype, just like we're doing right now.
	What we're doing is describing to each other something that's happening, right?
	Right.
	So it's happening, but what I'm saying is that it's something that we share, but In essence, you kind of bring it in with you.
	It's like a doorway.
	You become a doorway to someone else so that they can cross over into that particular way of thinking.
	And I agree.
	You don't have to explain it, but in terms of sort of, I guess, marketing in the real world, it can help.
	It's a good marketing ploy.
	I get that you're kind of beyond that, but at this point, Especially if you say that people are not accessing as much what you've been doing.
	I understand some are, but it's worthwhile for you to continue this dialogue and continue to I totally get it.
	I go to Europe and do conferences.
	I don't actually do conferences in the United States anymore either.
	It's just kind of the way the lay of the land is.
	Maybe there's a lack of openness in at least the material world.
	I think online there's openness, but then we have a worldwide audience.
	I know that people listening right now could be from anywhere in the world, and the ones that will hear this after we close this down, it'll have a life of its own.
	By the way, if you go to Russia, why don't you try to look up Buriska?
	You familiar with Bariska, who I interviewed, who's called the boy from Mars, and as a little child.
	I'm familiar.
	I usually don't have time to do anything when I'm in a venue because I wind up working the full time and then as soon as I'm done, I'm gone.
	Well, what I am suggesting to you, because I know that the scientists in Russia have a close hold on him, but if you are in Russia, it would be very nice.
	And all you have to do is turn to one of the scientists around you and say, I'd love to meet Bariska.
	And they may make it happen.
	So it's not going to take any time for your day to say that sentence.
	And I would like to suggest that you do, because not only will he benefit by meeting you, but you will benefit by meeting him.
	If it happens, it'll unfold.
	That's the way things happen in my world anymore.
	Absolutely.
	That's the way it always happened, actually.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I couldn't have predicted ever that I would meet Peter Gary and become like a long-lost brother with him, but that's the reality.
	It's just...
	Same thing, the guy that developed the GDB, the Carillion-like stuff, we're also...
	He came to a seminar with us as well.
	I am just grateful for every moment.
	I'm grateful for this.
	I'm grateful for talking to you.
	I'm grateful for the outreach.
	I'm also grateful when I'm just sitting at home alone as well.
	I think the universe isn't done with me yet, but I don't know what the next step will look like.
	But I've been continually amazed and surprised and graced with The things that have occurred in my life, and they're certainly not going to end, but it's the willingness that I've had to drop whatever models of limitation I might have held that have allowed me to move into the next level of whatever it was that was trying to present itself.
	And this is something, of course, is a useful skill for anyone.
	I'm just grateful tremendously for every moment.
	At 65, you know, which I just turned last month, a couple weeks ago, you're grateful for every breath you take.
	You get up in the morning, you see the sun, and it goes, oh my gosh, I'm still here.
	It's pretty awesome.
	And I'm pretty healthy as well.
	But just this gentleman yesterday in IHOP, that was as precious to me As being in front of 300 people.
	It was the same.
	It's that opportunity to be of service and to share in a perceptual, joyous experience that is not limited by time or space.
	I've had many people tell me, by the way, that they've met me in their dreams.
	Or they've been taught by me.
	I've had people that I've connected with in seminars.
	I go, well, when's the last time you were at a seminar?
	I said, well, I've never met you before.
	I said, yes, you have.
	And he goes, well, I watched videos with you.
	And I said, well, yeah, I saw you.
	Because we're already in rapport, you see.
	So this field effect, and that's why I call it a technology, because it's not...
	It's not driven by a human experience.
	It's driven by something that has been created that then, like artificial intelligence in a good way, continues to interact in spite of me.
	If I were dead, it would still be interacting, I'm sure.
	And I'm tremendously grateful for that.
	Okay, well, very nice to hear.
	Now, I don't actually see, I am looking for any direct questions to crop up in the chat room here, but let me see if I missed anything.
	Someone wants to know if you know anything about Antarctica.
	Antarctica.
	Well, there's obviously something pretty weird going on over there.
	And I've read Farrell's books about it.
	I've read other people's research.
	I've looked at, you've talked about it.
	I can't say I know anything about it.
	I've never been there, and so to say I know anything about it, I would have to rely upon things I've heard or seen on a video.
	Well, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	That's not completely true.
	Now, you do know, you understand signal non-locality, and you understand that basically time and space are one.
	And therefore we can go anywhere we want, see anything we want, and do anything we want.
	So basically you can and we can all remote view Antarctica and you may have intuitively Do you feel that you do remote viewing per se or do you have any sort of protocols that you follow in terms of let's say you do want to see something somewhere that is a distance away?
	No, what generally happens, now I will tell you this, and I'm not bragging, but I met Lynn Buchanan, who was one of the original Stargate people, who was teaching his problem solutions and innovations, his PSI remote viewing course, and when he met me, He said that my skill set was such that it was like I'd been under intense training by the military for about seven months into the program.
	And he wanted me to be one of his advanced remote viewers.
	But I can tell you, that was right before I went to Nature Valley School, like weeks before.
	So I was kind of busy.
	I can tell you the remote viewing for me is extremely boring.
	It's repetition.
	It's designed to actually bore the left brain to the point that it gives up and then you start to get reproducible, reliable information.
	So yes, I could probably do all that.
	I have done that.
	But more what tends to happen is if I need to know about something, it comes to me.
	I mean, if I will wake up and I'll know something that I didn't know before, or I'll see something in meditation, or I'll just be sitting here talking to you and I'll be looking at Antarctica.
	You know, it's not something I pursue, but it's something that's a natural skill, I suppose.
	When I say I don't know, I can't tell you directly because I've not been there.
	Being a scientist and being a doctor, I try and be precise in my speech.
	I generally fail.
	I don't personally have knowledge, but I've read a lot about it, so I have quite a bit of indirect knowledge.
	Okay.
	Well, it is interesting in the sense that actually what they've discovered is evidence of Atlantis and that Atlantis had very high technology and even technology, the kinds of which you talk about.
	So, you know, because a lot of this has obviously been here already.
	It's probably coming back to us at this time, and we're accessing it again, however you want to look at it.
	So, yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
	I have a lot of memories of Atlantis that pop up for my whole life.
	Yes.
	Okay, very good.
	So do I, actually.
	And it is fascinating.
	I do believe that we are, in the sense that I believe the spiral is, in a sense, the basic...
	I don't know, whatever you want to call it, unit of everything in the universe or multiverse, the spiral.
	And so that we actually go up the spiral and that's why I talk about point of view.
	It depends where you are on the spiral at any given time, how you're going to see something.
	And all you have to do is move yourself along that spiral to get a different point of view.
	And so that has to do with Atlantis and how we can perceive it and how it's kind of coming back because we're coming back around as a civilization or, you know, multiple civilizations to the time we are at least technologically here on Earth.
	Approaching the same technological levels that they had in Atlantis at that time.
	So it's a revisiting for many of the souls here.
	And it is, there were things that happened to change Atlantis, you know, was hit by a meteor.
	That was actually purposefully shot at it, like a bowling ball.
	And other things that happened, it also imploded from the inside.
	So, I think people are concerned.
	Some have these past life memories that, you know, sort of are persistent.
	For example, when I went to Malta, I found a lot of people had persistent memories of being inundated by water.
	And during the sinking...
	I'm not a fan of that either.
	So, well, it's fascinating.
	So have you looked into your own past lives while we're on the subject?
	They've surfaced at times.
	I was in...
	There was a crazy shelter, what they called the shelter cycle in the Church Universal and Triumph of Elizabeth Fair Prophet.
	We thought that there was going to be World War III, and so we dug a bunch of bomb shelters and We actually went into them at one point.
	I did not like them at all.
	And I was in the bomb shelter, and I had a memory of being buried alive in ancient Egypt.
	And Elizabeth understood this and was laughing at me.
	She said, apparently, I was the pharaoh's physician.
	He died.
	And when the pharaoh died, everything that was the pharaoh's property got buried along with him.
	Alive.
	All the servants and so on.
	So not a fan of underground things.
	Not a fan of cruise ships and things like that.
	I think that's a titanic mistake.
	Just not down with it.
	I told Elizabeth Fair Prophet I didn't even like fish.
	I said I think I went down with a fish in my mouth on Atlantis and I've just never been able to stand the taste of it since.
	So yeah, I have all those memories and things.
	I try not to let them It doesn't bother me all that much.
	But I've had periods where I remember being in a high position in Atlantis, being a doctor, being a scientist.
	I participated partly in the destruction at one point, partly in the resurrection at another.
	And I remember a lot of healing technology from Atlantis.
	So, yeah.
	Right.
	Well, very good.
	And I think that a lot of people have these kinds of memories.
	I don't know if you know who Patricia Corey is, but she's written a lot of books.
	She's in touch with the Syrian civilization.
	She's going to be speaking at my conference in the UK, and she is someone who I think also was buried alive in Egypt.
	Just wanted to say that you have maybe some similar memories there.
	By the way, I lead tours of Egypt now, and they're actually really fascinating, so it's a lot of fun to do that.
	Anyway, it's been great talking to you and catching up.
	I think I'm not really seeing that many questions here that I can ask you directly, and I think we've kept you for long enough.
	So is there anything that we haven't talked about that you'd like to cover even briefly or however you would like?
	Because, you know, I do want to make sure that we explore the kind of things that you're getting involved in because I think you're, you know, you're a wonderful teacher and healer, whatever you want to call that, facilitator.
	And so I want people to be able to access your work and so on.
	Your books, I assume, are available on Amazon?
	Yeah, they still are.
	You know, I can tell you that probably most of what I'm doing these days or appear to be doing doesn't have a lot to do with anything I wrote about in those books and does not look a lot like Matrix Energetics.
	However, It's a natural evolution of things that I've been exposed to my whole life.
	It's probably some of that Atlantean healing technology.
	So it's worth checking out.
	It's worth coming to a seminar.
	There are still tremendous breakthrough experiences that people have in all sorts of ways.
	And Melissa and I, again, will be in Europe, in Italy and Germany.
	And Melissa is currently, right now, I think, this next weekend in Poland.
	She's on her own tour teaching materials that she developed.
	Again, it's nice to catch up with you.
	I'm grateful for your audience.
	I hope I've said something useful for someone.
	I tend to answer questions that are not asked.
	In other words, whatever I wind up talking about, someone is asking or someone wants to hear or someone will need to hear.
	That's the way it's always been.
	And so I'm kind of a blank slate when I'm not asked a question or if something's not...
	I have to have an audience to present to in order to have something to present.
	It's very interesting.
	And it's kind of like a meditation now.
	It's like you've seen me work on Skype.
	When I work, my hands work without me.
	My mind is actually...
	I don't hear my voice anymore.
	I don't know what I'm going to say 90% of the time before I say it.
	And I'm fascinated with that because I've always had a very busy Gemini sort of mind.
	It's quieted down to the point where perhaps I can hear the underlying current of the universe, or at least that certainly is something that one could aspire to.
	Really, I'm just love and gratitude.
	That's really all I have to say.
	Okay, lovely.
	So anyway, I want people to be aware of your work, and I think it would be nice if you will...
	Perhaps consider writing something even, I don't know if you're making videos or whatever, of your work in Russia around, you know, this new sort of hollow tech or whatever.
	And so if you can...
	It would be nice for people.
	Anyway, so thank you very much, Richard, for coming on the show.
	It's been a delight.
	It's been a delight.
	And I hope you have a great...
	Rest of your life.
	Thank you.
	And if you have, if anybody has questions after the fact, they see, you know, this video, and they think, I really would have liked to have asked that after I thought about it, or maybe they see it much later, they can write to iHeart, i-hrt.com, and they'll get the information to me, and I will, if I can, personally respond to it if I have a response.
	All right.
	Okay, so you're reachable.
	Basically, we put the links on my website, projectcamelot.tv, and all the links that you gave me, and you've got two major websites, and I assume there are forms that people can fill out to try to get in touch with you, etc.
	I assume.
	Yeah, they are.
	They're there.
	All right, so take care, and it's been great having you on the show.
	Thank you so much.
	It's been a gracious opportunity, and I very much appreciate it.
	Okay.
	Take care.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	So, actually, I wanted to just let people know that we are going to be, or I am going to be doing a conference I wanted to just let people know that we are going to It's the Awaken Aware.
	I do it yearly.
	It's Awaken Aware in California.
	The UK at High Elms Manor.
	And people are, of course, welcome to still buy tickets.
	We are running out of tickets.
	So I'm not sure.
	I think...
	I'm not sure.
	Sunday might be sold out.
	And Saturday's still available.
	We have a wonderful speaker lineup.
	You can go to my Project Camelot and look under events on the top.
	There's a link there.
	As well as...
	Basically, go to my YouTube channel.
	There is a video on there about the Awaken Aware 2019 lineup.
	And Simon Parks is one of the speakers.
	And Laura Loudon is going to be talking about clones.
	That's a fascinating story and I think she's on Saturday and I do want to say that I'm looking forward to that very much.
	She is someone who she believes her children were replaced by clones.
	They were taken by the social services and she has a very fascinating story to tell.
	So I encourage you to come on down and we may be doing a Skywatch with John Leonard Walson in case you know who he is.
	And so if you're in England and you want to do that on Saturday night with us, we'll probably be doing that.
	And, um, let me see.
	So, uh, I am going to be, uh, I've written a very important article and I, I think tomorrow I'll probably do a video about it, but there is a new release of information from, uh, this person who is called, well, Admiral Wilson.
	It's all about, uh, his experience trying to get it, find out information about the secret space program back in the 1990s and a dialogue that he Appears to have had with a person named Eric Davis, who, as it happens, happens to be someone who runs Hal Pudoff's technology company, which is all about reverse engineering.
	Alien tech and also looking into various technologies that can facilitate space travel, etc.
	Portal travel as well.
	So this is a fascinating subject.
	It's written about again and I've got a lot of links.
	It's basically a document, a set of documents.
	Well, one document with 15 pages.
	And I've got those pages available on my website.
	They're elsewhere on the internet as well.
	Some of my colleagues have talked about it.
	They don't seem to realize that the people involved are the same people as to the STARS Academy.
	And this is no coincidence.
	It's not just come out of the blue.
	And it is part of the controlled disclosure going on.
	So in that sense, it's a good thing because more disclosure is happening.
	In another sense, it is being orchestrated and people need to know that.
	So I'm going to talk about that if I can get around to it tomorrow.
	And then I'll be leaving town.
	I'll be back in a couple weeks.
	I'm not staying away very long this time.
	And Camelot is very low on funding.
	So if you want to help...
	To make this work possible, I would encourage you, even $5.
	You know, I have a huge audience, so, of 230,000 subscribers on YouTube and 62 million unique viewers, if just, you know, each person sent me $1, let alone $5, then I'd probably be set for Never Have to Ask for Donations Again, if you want to think about it that way.
	So, take care and have a great night.
	And I'll be back possibly tomorrow with another broadcast.
	At any rate, I've got some fascinating broadcasts.
	Over, I guess, 750 interviews on free that are on the YouTube channel now.
	And fascinating, fascinating people.
	Wonderful stuff.
	So thanks again for watching and for being there and for supporting my work, those of you who have over the time.
	And if you're watching right now, you've been supporting my work just by being there.
	So thank you very much and take care.

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