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May 14, 2019 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY ALEXANDRA JB re SECRET SPACE PROGRAM AND AI

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	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and I am here tonight with Alexandra J.B. and she is a researcher.
	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and I am here tonight with Alexandra JB and she's a researcher.
	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy.
	And sorry about that.
	Okay, so I'm going to switch over to her for this broadcast, so please stand by.
	Okay, it's great to see you.
	I hope the sound will be working.
	Okay, yes.
	I'm very sorry about that.
	A rocky beginning.
	I'm speaking with Kerry from Project Camelot and it's evening in California where Kerry is and it's morning 4am in Central Europe where I am and Kerry is of course a well-known CEO and journalist of Project Camelot and we are going to talk about different subjects today and it's Well,
	I assume my audience will know who I am, obviously, but for the sake of your audience, I'm an investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, And I've been working on Project Camelot, which I founded, co-founded in the early days, back about 14 years ago.
	And I've been investigating everything to do with conspiracies, ETs, aliens, UFOs.
	Actually, across the board, you know, cures for cancer, political false flags around the globe, as well as what are current geopolitical events.
	And I'm also about to publish a book.
	So you can go to projectcamelot.tv for more information.
	And I have a very large YouTube following 62 million viewers at this time.
	And I think it's something like 230,000 subscribers.
	So that's more or less the capsule of who I am, I guess.
	Yeah, and five days ago, you have done an update.
	So you were talking about your trip to Egypt one month ago or a few weeks ago.
	And then you talked about...
	The people you have interviewed quite a lot and also about your trip to Britain and your conference in Britain in June.
	Do you want to mention something about this?
	Well, I have an awake and aware conference that's happening in June and Let me see.
	I think there's a way to do this.
	Yes.
	And so I'm going to be hosting a number of people and it's going to be fascinating.
	As always, I do this every year at the High Elms Manor in Watford, England, which is North London area, slightly in the country.
	And it's a lovely manor house and we have a great networking event and it's quite small.
	It doesn't allow for a lot of people actually, um, which keeps it low profile.
	Uh, so less harassment, I guess you might say.
	And it's, uh, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun.
	So you can go to my website at projecthamelot.tv to see the lineup and, uh, Simon Parks is going to be speaking and we have some very interesting new speakers as well as some returning speakers who have been with us in the past.
	So looking forward to it.
	And you are going to discuss also 5G, the danger, the problem?
	Yes, we will have Mark Steele, who is a well-known British investigator and actually a weapons expert.
	So he has become something of an expert on 5G and certainly what it is, which is a weapon system.
	And I've had that also verified by a physicist called Richard Allen Miller, who I've interviewed a number of times.
	Yeah, and you have talked about this Ericsson in regards 5G, Ericsson and Nokia versus the Chinese, how you pronounce it, Huawei or the company,
	and how do you see the Ericsson and the fact that Ericsson is It is a Swedish company.
	Sorry, my dog.
	She got a toy.
	I have to take it away.
	She's acting really crazy tonight.
	I'm not sure why.
	No, I was thinking that people, when we are discussing this Ericsson versus Hawaii, that all the Chinese, it's like dangerous, but who is thinking About who is behind Ericsson.
	I have lived most of my life in Sweden, and Ericsson is the family of Jacob Wallenberg, one of the brothers who is, or was at least, in the steering committee of Bildbergers.
	So it's newer brother.
	Sure.
	Very hard to really separate oneself from these organizations.
	What I'm aware of is some information that I put in an article on the front page of Camelot.
	It has to do with Huawei and the fact that there's a split on the planet with regard to what's going on with the United States and the companies they're rolling 5G out with and the platform involved, as well as the one coming from China, which is Huawei.
	Huawei is rolled out around Europe and in the Asian countries.
	And so there is a real issue, apparently, because what people don't often think about is that 5G is a platform for AI. And so that in order, if we were to have the same platform, Huawei, then in essence, China would be able to compromise our military and our networks.
	Artificial intelligence, our defense industry, etc.
	So this is where President Trump has decided to align himself with two other companies called Nokia and Ericsson.
	This is what is out in the news.
	Now, this is not what may be going on behind the scenes because we There can be contradictions there, but that's all we know.
	I do know that this issue with security is a major one, and it has to do with the coming battles between various AI. And so there are...
	At least two AIs and probably more at this point being rolled out here on the planet.
	And that would be AIs that were sort of created here by humans.
	They could also have alien sort of legacy legacy.
	Associated with them.
	And then we have apparently at least six AI that are associated with alien races that are currently invading our networks on planet Earth, according to one of my witnesses, Captain Mark Richards, from the Secret Space Program.
	So it's a complex story.
	And we're just beginning to investigate it.
	Very little information is being put out there.
	But I've done a number of interviews on the dangers of 5G. And so the association with AI is a really crucial one.
	And it will determine, I believe, the geopolitics going forward of the world.
	Yeah.
	Among other aspects, two aspects of the 5G, one is that it's carcinogenic, that the investigation done or the evidence done of people on the good side is that there is evidence that it's carcinogenic,
	but also another aspect is the surveillance and how do you see the 5G and the RFID chip that they want to, like,
	trick us into to accept the RFID chips and the satellites, satellite probes, the space probes and 5G. How do you see the danger also about the surveillance and RFID chip?
	Well, the RFID chip is embedded in things like credit cards, from what I understand.
	But at this time, it's actually outmoded technology.
	They're much more sophisticated now in how they track us and surveil us.
	And this comes, again, my information comes from whistleblowers and from We're good to go.
	What I can say is that what they've got now is they can see your signature from satellites and they don't need an RFID chip to do so.
	It's also important that people realize that we have nano embedded in all the chemtrails, delivered by all the chemtrails in essence.
	I just did a show today with Ben Davis Jr.
	and he is referencing some very good information on the nano and how it's a delivery system or how the chemtrails are a delivery system for the nano.
	And the nano that's been embedded in our bodies through Breathing it in and also, I guess, food and water, etc., is really...
	There's no escape on the planet at this time.
	And it is aimed at making us not only manipulated more easily by an artificial intelligence, but more trackable and predictable in our movements from that standpoint.
	So...
	There is a network of nanosatellites called Project Leonid that I've reported on a number of times.
	It was initially brought to light by Anthony Sanchez, who received multiple death threats, one of which came through a contact of mine.
	Who has deep ties into the deep state and the intelligence agencies.
	And I simply delivered the message.
	So I interviewed him and to this date, my interview with him is not allowed to be released or he and his family would die.
	So...
	It's about the Lockheed Martin scientists that went on the run from, obviously, Lockheed, and they found that their fellow scientists were starting to disappear.
	They also did an investigation of the nanosatellites that were self-replicating and artificially intelligent.
	And have already been put into the skies above our head in a grid.
	And these are in addition to the normal satellites that we hear about.
	And so they went on the run from Lockheed Martin and reported to Anthony, who has a background and worked in the Silicon Valley software community.
	And so this is the kind of thing that...
	In other words, it's important to understand the grid that's being built, that 5G is just part of that grid, and how the whole system is interlocking.
	And that involves, as well, streetlights, the LED streetlights, and so on.
	So it's quite complex, but it's definitely researchable, and there's a tremendous amount of information out there now about all of this.
	Yeah, I just show two pages that Deborah Tavares did a transcript.
	It's from YouTube channel Lightkillers about RFID chip.
	That the Illuminati are planning.
	I will explain a little bit about this particular RFID chip and it's things like the chip will be able to remotely monitor or record everything you see, you hear, you speak.
	It will be able to remotely wipe out or manipulate your memories, put your brain in fake memories, make you to feel pain on the selected part of bodies, other things like influence your behaviour, feelings and decision.
	The RFID chip will be secretly sending all data about you to one world government.
	Yes, but this is all outdated information.
	This has already been done.
	This is from YouTube channel Like Killers, which it was...
	there are quite a lot of videos on the YouTube channel, and it was taken down on 28th of April 2019, after five years.
	Because it has revealed a lot of the information and the thing why that day, it was the day after I have written to court in Prague.
	With the information, who is behind the channel?
	And it's very high level Illuminati.
	It's the boss of the Illuminati.
	But again, it's old information.
	You know, what's important about it is the capabilities.
	And those capabilities are already, as I say, embedded in the nanosatellites as well as...
	I have to say that we have a witness called Jake Simpson who talked to us many, many years ago about all of this.
	And this is long before any of this came to the fore.
	And there is, in essence, a...
	I guess it's an artificially intelligent being that is probably attempting to rule the world and has been...
	Involved in surveillance and he demonstrated it for us in a certain location and this is run by ETs and has to do with even the quantum level.
	So the RFID chip is what you might call a limited hangout.
	It's the information put out there to mislead the public in thinking that the technology is Sort of tangible in their reality, you know, an actual chip, when in reality it's much more involved than that.
	And again, they can read our frequency from space.
	Yeah.
	Carrie, you are a journalist, outstanding journalist, investigative journalist.
	It's your part in the battle against the new world order.
	I see it that way, that I am not a journalist at all.
	I am a psychiatrist.
	I see myself in this part of how we are fighting the New World Order that I am actually working with forensic psychiatry.
	So forensic psychiatry and then law because we are close to complete lawlessness as I see it.
	And so it's a big difference between us because you do your part as to bring The information, but then it's like full-time job to do.
	Then there should be other people to take your information and do something with it, within the law, so we can find the newer order.
	It's my perception how I Yes.
	Well, as far as I'm concerned, you know, I'm not just simply a journalist.
	I am actually putting together two and two, adding together two and two.
	In fact, I have a book coming out that does just that.
	And I think it's very important.
	I realize a lot of journalists simply do focus on individual stories and never try to connect the dots, so to speak, and never go down into the deeper levels.
	But my work does.
	And actually, someone like yourself would find my portraits, that is my interviews with individuals where I bring forward their psychology as well as whether they're psychic and intuitive and so on.
	All of this is playing into this sort of Multidimensional story that we're involved in.
	So thank you for sharing a bit more about your background.
	I think that's good for people to know, you know, the direction in which your questions will go.
	Yeah, and I believe many people could understand or believe that we are close to have one world leader, one world government, one world currency, one world...
	Do you believe that, before I ask you, if you believe this is the case, before I ask you next question.
	Yes, yes, absolutely.
	The so-called New World Order is formed.
	It is operational, but there are splits within the system, and a very strong split involves the United States and what we call the Five Eyes, and that also stems into the Secret Space Program.
	Now, some of these things have different levels, and so we're also dealing with various ET races, as you may know.
	And so it's a complex story.
	It's not simple.
	And at this time, they are generating wars constantly.
	It's a business, and they actually have to have it.
	And it also supports their...
	Sort of reason for being.
	In other words, all the militaries in the world, etc.
	And you can appreciate if there's a one world order and a one world government that war would soon be relatively useless unless they decide to generate it, which of course they are.
	And so this is the kind of thing that we're looking at.
	We're also looking at a future movement.
	War with artificial intelligence and also, of course, the off-world ETs and the various ETs are backing various sort of interested parties, power players within the New World Order.
	And so different ones are backed by different groups.
	Now, some of this conflict is real and some of it is manufactured for the benefit of the public.
	So what we see a lot of going on in the Middle East is certainly people are conducting warlike exercises and there are people dying in these war situations.
	But there's also this is also created on purpose to facilitate more funding into what is in essence the military industrial complex that funds the secret space program.
	So and programs because China has their own program.
	Of course, and India attempts to have theirs.
	There are other players cropping up, and also a lot of these are companies.
	So companies are still competing with each other at war, if you want to call it that, industrial warfare, and that kind of thing, also psychic warfare.
	So there's a lot of that going on.
	It's also the fact that From what I understand, wars may not last very long, especially the ones in the future that involve artificial intelligence and wars even with off-planet races.
	These wars can take place in literally minutes where certain high-powered weaponry is exploded or put out there and Then the outcome is determined very quickly.
	And, of course, we're having wars through the Stargates and the portals, various races opening the portals, trying to come in to our sector, and then our military attempting to close those portals.
	All of that can take place in a very short period of time.
	The The collateral damage can be things like the fires in California, etc.
	And those are more long-lasting.
	Obviously, they have to be battled on the human level and on the ground.
	But the actual war that took place that created them has probably long since ended.
	And can you have at least a couple of...
	You have interviewed people like Michael Prince, James Casport, in May 2013, who was talking about that the top Illuminati in the United States are divided in two,
	and it was West Coast, East Coast, By the time in 2013 and he called one Zionist and the other one that they called themselves Fourth Reich.
	And it's like here in Europe.
	The Illuminati, they want to kill us as humanity, but you can feel that There are two different parts who are fighting each other, also partially.
	And Cameron Faley, or is his name?
	Yeah.
	He told you that the song Belly Blood by Tyler Swift is actually about the fight between these two parts.
	If I understand it well or...
	Yes.
	Well, but, you know, I there are maybe or they like to talk about two main divisions, but I believe there are more than that.
	I believe they have more splits and probably as time goes on, they will splinter even further.
	It's going to be very difficult for them to maintain sort of cohesion with regard to any of their sort of ranks simply because it's a changing.
	And humanity is also changing.
	Our consciousness is changing.
	Our awareness changes.
	And as our consciousness changes, it changes the equation.
	So you have individuals who are creating a field of resonance that is disturbing a field that has been set up by, let's say, the Illuminati, the dark magicians, and also different factions.
	So they will bond together when it suits their purposes.
	In other words, enemy working with enemy against a common enemy.
	And then they will split up again and they will reform it again against their former ally, so to speak.
	So there's a lot, I think there's a lot of kind of comings and goings and wars going on.
	In fact, you can look at the deep state and look at the war with regard to Russia gate or spy gate, as some people call it, having to do with making Russia seem like they are at odds with the United States.
	When in reality, they are working with us in our secret space program and have been for very many years and, And that the wars have been for the benefit of the people and for the benefit of, you know, sparking, you might say, competition for resources, etc., And for who's on top at any given moment.
	So there's that kind of so-called, they call them wars, but whatever.
	And skirmishes, you might want to say.
	And so we've also got the Zionists who are also infiltrated.
	I just interviewed Michael Shrimpton, who's a barrister in England who has been Working around the intelligence community for many, many years and is an excellent historian as well as a person who has helped a certain faction that he, in essence, serves, which involves the United States and parts of Britain.
	But Britain is also split from It's also infiltrated by the Germans, as well as the Zionists are infiltrated by the Germans.
	So we're talking about German intelligence that goes back to the time of Hitler.
	So within each country, there are various factions that are working against each other.
	For example, the CIA is also split.
	Into more than one division.
	And Navy intelligence, the Navy, is also split into at least two and possibly more factions.
	And you get, you know, similar things going on with Army, Air Force, and so on.
	So the lines are not completely clear all the time.
	You can tell sometimes who's working with who, but that can change depending on Convenience and the sort of enemy of the moment, if you want to call it that.
	So I think it's like a board game where, you know, you have to keep your eye on the ball and understand that people have shifting alliances.
	Things are not static.
	This goes on with the various ET races that have infiltrated us, as well as the artificial intelligence team.
	One of the things that Captain Mark Richards talked about in my recent interview, and that was interview 10, was that currently our generals are now not knowing what kind of intelligence they can rely on because They don't know if they can trust their ET,
	their alien, well, actually, their artificial intelligence that is, I believe, alien-based, and that it may be that they're starting to realize that it may be getting timelines confused,
	and there are multiple timelines at any given moment, so that they're finding their AI is suddenly putting into place Things that would relate to another timeline, not ours.
	And thinking that our timeline is that timeline.
	And eventually we may encounter whatever that happens to be in our future, but it hasn't gotten here yet.
	And yet it's already happened on another timeline.
	So this is a problem with people that try to be, you know, tell prophecies.
	And so on, because there are shifting timelines.
	There are multiple realities all the time, and we have all these different beings kind of vying for self-interest, for working on our behalf, working against us, and so on.
	So, again, a complex puzzle to try to figure out everything, and I don't think that you can quite pinpoint Exactly who is the current super bad guy versus just the normal bad guys.
	Some of these Satanists are always the bad guys, right?
	But strangely, one of the things Mark said in one of my interviews was that The Nazis were actually defending us against the possibility of an invasion by the Draco if I remember correctly.
	And so these are the kinds of very strange, you know, alliances that you're getting right now.
	And I think humans have a tendency to want to simplify.
	They want to see things in black and white.
	And they're more like shades of grey.
	And so I think you have to have your wits about you at all times.
	If you were to speculate, elaborate with what you know, Who is the head of the pyramid?
	His religion?
	Where does he live?
	Mostly or anything?
	How would you?
	Well, I definitely don't think it's one person.
	Excuse me.
	So I would say, you know, it's a variety of various groups who are vying for control.
	And in the end of the day, if you really consider the multidimensional quality of what we're doing, even the idea that this may be a hologram, that we're actively engaged in a process, we, you could think of it this way, that we as souls don't actually reside here.
	That we actually reside in the one, the all, the creator, whatever you want to call it.
	And that a part of us is here engaged in this interaction and with this particular body.
	But we have simultaneous incarnations at every given time.
	And there are various...
	Other individuals are going through the same kind of dynamic.
	We also have...
	Anunnaki, who have been infiltrating our planet for a very long time, Attempting to run things and we have certainly the Draco who are considered the top of the food chain when it comes to the reptilian type you know beings and that includes you know being on top of the snake beings and what what are called reptoids which are human reptilian hybrids and so on so Then
	you've got the Pleiadians, and there are different Pleiadian groups, apparently.
	And we saw that with some of my interviews with Eddie Page, where he was not on the same page with other Pleiadian sort of groups.
	And they have more than one planet as well.
	In other words, it is known that there are many humanoid groups out there.
	And then there are the discarnate entities and there are what some people like to call avatars, beings that no longer manifest in a human body or a body of any kind.
	And they are also safeguarding and watching over this particular experiment, if you want to call it that.
	So at no time is there one person who is in charge.
	I have been told behind the scenes that there is one ET that runs the CIA. Whether or not that's true, I don't know.
	I do know that that might coincide with the Sean David Morton books called Sands of Time that talked about this one Archon-ish alien who considers themselves royalty that was running Dulce.
	And I believe they were substituted by another one during a certain number of years ago, but they still are operational.
	And they consider themselves far above your random greys or whatever.
	So...
	It's important to understand that because we're looking at a playing field that involves consciousness and beings with consciousness and for example the dolphins are a group of beings that are highly conscious and involved in this drama as are the whales and so you might say they are ETs on Earth and we are Made up of at least 12,
	this human body, that is this genome, has been genetically re-engineered by at least 12 ET races.
	And all of that comes from Ashiana Dean and my interviews with her that deal with the Voyager books.
	Voyager 102, if you're interested in reading them, are on the front page of my site on the lower right-hand side.
	And you can click on them and read them as PDFs or Kindle on Amazon, I believe it is.
	So to answer your question and to go back, you know, and then when you get down, if you want to come down to like on a more sort of feats on the ground, Way.
	Then we've got two popes.
	We've got one pope, you know, what's the white pope in essence, and one that is the black pope.
	And we've also got the P2 Lodge.
	We've also got, according to Mark Richards, a woman who is, I believe, based in France, who is considered to be the queen of She's the leader of all the magicians, so to speak.
	And she is from both paths, both the white and the dark.
	So this gives her added strength.
	So really, again, it's not all down to one person or one being.
	It's multiple levels.
	And this is where...
	You know, the game gets interesting, so to speak.
	And if it was just one being you could just shoot them in the head, right?
	But the bottom line is that, you know, It's not also about individuals.
	It's about groups.
	It's about, again, you know, negative beings that align themselves with the negative and that want to take over Earth, that want to destroy our sovereignty over Earth.
	And also the reason that our secret space programs even exist is to fight The ongoing war of worlds that goes on out beyond this earth and to terraform and colonize other planets and so on.
	And there are plenty of ET races that want to do the same thing to us and that are doing that.
	The chemtrails are part of a terraforming, you know, genetic, I mean, a geoengineering program to change the very face of the earth in every way.
	So they are trying to make it a more methane-filled environment.
	Radiation-filled reptilians can live much better and easier in a methane-filled high radiation-filled environment and so on.
	So it's very interesting.
	There was a recent article that I read having to do, and this was in a relatively mainstream press, talking about Chernobyl.
	It was under the auspices that actually there is wildlife coming back to life in the area where Chernobyl happened in Russia.
	And that, oh, wasn't it possible that actually radiation zones where humans no longer inhabit the earth are more positive for animal species?
	That are not affected as much by radiation.
	And there were conflicting views even put forth in this article.
	But I have, as I've mentioned in other interviews, I can't remember whether I talked to you about it, but I've interviewed a couple from Chernobyl who grew up there and were exposed to radiation at very young ages.
	They would eat radiation to stay strong.
	And they were not very interested in food of any kind.
	And this is their testimony.
	And it's on my YouTube channel.
	If you want to watch the interview, it's quite fascinating.
	And there is reason to believe there's a scientist.
	I forget his name, but it's on YouTube again.
	He was around during, I think, the 1950s or 60s.
	And he used to swim in a radiation-filled pool.
	To prove that the whole radiation idea was a fallacy.
	So we are beings of light.
	I think the jury is out on what really is going to do away with the human genome, so to speak.
	I believe that this sort of human body, humanoid body, was created with the idea that we would come across these challenges in the future.
	That involved radiation, a radiation-filled environment that involved the challenge of invasions by various ET races, as well as artificial intelligence.
	So all of this was known to those races because This is sort of like the board game.
	These are the challenges to all planets and all life and all different sectors.
	And some life is very poisonous to other life out in the sector.
	So I think it behooves us to have a really cosmic perspective of this playing field to widen our view about what It means to be human and to understand that we are spirit and soul having a basically a 3D going into 4D experience that we chose to come down here to sort of
	visit this world and inhabit these bodies so that we could experience What it's like to be in a world in transition that's sort of awakening to its awareness and its place in the galactic community.
	I would like to ask you something.
	You mentioned the Black Pope and the White Pope.
	Both of them are Jesuits.
	I don't know if anybody of your viewers has noticed that there is a website, New World Order in Latin, and they are the man who is running this website.
	He is calling the IHS, like the Jesuits IHS. He's calling Isis Horus Satan.
	So, we have a Black Pope and a White Pope who are Jesuits.
	It sounds like they are Satanists.
	And if you know who the Black Pope is, which country he comes from, he was born in Caracas, Venezuela.
	And now you have these problems that In Venezuela that were provoked, obviously.
	So, how is your view of the Jesuits and how high are they in the Illuminati New World Order?
	Well, they're very high up in terms of the popes, obviously, and they have been, this has been, I mean, the CIA was based on the Vatican Secret Service, and so was, from what I understand, the Mossad, etc.
	So these were the early days of intelligence services that are directly linked to the Vatican.
	And the Vatican is run by the reptilians and the Draco and the symbolism is everywhere in Vatican city.
	I actually went there not long ago.
	And, um, when I got into the Vatican city area, I started to feel quite sick, um, because of that very negative influence that's in that area.
	Um, So we kind of had to get out of there.
	But the imagery is everywhere.
	It's been discussed by Jordan Maxwell for many, many years, and other researchers as well.
	Yeah, and we know that, for example, Leo Zagami, who I interviewed, has talked at length about the infiltration by the reptilians and Draco into the Vatican and that it's basically a blood-drinking operation.
	So there's no difference between that and Satanism.
	It's the same thing.
	And interestingly enough, the reptilians are also interested in that, drinking and living off the fluids of humans, which they consider an aphrodisiac.
	So there's no real line there.
	And it also gets into the pedophilia and why that is a big thing to do with the Vatican and priests and children and so on.
	So these...
	We call them, we give them sort of categories and labels, but you can appreciate that when you bring it into the bigger picture, you can see where the through line exists and it goes back to really ultimately the Draco.
	And above that, and there may be, there are these dragon moths, which are considered to be quite diabolical as well.
	And there are various other beings that, you know, in other words, there are so many beings, it's too numerous to mention.
	Mark mentions gaseous beings as guarding the portals that go to Saturn that would allow the Draco to come through to take over Earth.
	So they are on our side, as he calls it.
	Now, we don't have a way of proving this at this time.
	Maybe in the future we will.
	But it's certainly fascinating to consider this.
	And he believes he's had lots of interactions with those particular beings.
	And obviously, you can tell by their name that they don't have a normal kind of body that you would think of.
	So again, you know, a lot of players.
	Part of this sort of dynamic is learning how for people It's all about groups.
	When you go into 4D, As this sector is, and as the planet herself is, in essence, we are no longer dealing with individuals.
	We are dealing with groups.
	Individuals are members of groups, and most individuals, in fact, are aligned somehow, someway.
	If you follow their sort of lineage back, you will see that most individuals, there is no real lone gunman.
	Even Patsies are chosen from a lineage.
	And so that's where bloodlines come into play and why they're so important to the Illuminati when they're choosing a target or when they're choosing someone as an ally.
	So it's worth exploring the whole idea of bloodlines, where that leads, and going back.
	You know, in history.
	And of course, I just got back from Egypt where the interaction of various ET races in a peaceful way is depicted all over the temples.
	And so this is a civilization that came into being.
	At least around the same time as Atlantis, if not basically, you know, lived on beyond Atlantis.
	So it's quite fascinating when you look at the temples and see that they were depicting all the different races interacting with each other, sharing technology and various ascension technology as well, portal technology and so on.
	So You could say perhaps it's propaganda from the time around Atlantis, or perhaps it's a peace message.
	And maybe there's many, many temples that have never been revealed.
	The labyrinth under Egypt has never been revealed.
	Open to the public.
	We interviewed Patrick Jarrell who told us that the Germans took it over and it was supposed to be exposed to a major broadcast on a mainstream channel network and then it never saw the light of day on the walls of the labyrinth.
	He claimed he saw scenes that depicted the fall of Atlantis.
	So This is what we're talking about.
	We're talking about becoming part of a really interplanetary group of civilizations and races and alliances that are already in place.
	When you read the Voyager books, you do learn how various treaties were broken between these various races, how they continue to be broken.
	And how certain groups that used to be trustworthy are no longer and have been infiltrated, etc.
	And that doesn't even go into much detail about artificial intelligence and how that plays into the whole scenario.
	So we're really...
	In a brave new world, if you want to call it that.
	But it's always been here and it will always be here.
	So whether the earth remains viable as a livable place or not, and that's partly up to us to maintain our sovereignty and to deal with...
	Various intruders and also to deal with various friendlies and bring them alongside and so on.
	I see things in the big picture.
	I'm able to go down to the detail level but I prefer to look at things from a wider perspective because I find that narrowing one's perspective and trying to find tangible enemies that you can go You know, shoot in the head, so to speak, is a kind of a useless enterprise.
	Those people will come and go, just like Bush Sr., who died or at least left this body, whether he's going to be reincarnated into another body or just simply put into another body and has already been, I don't know.
	These are the kinds of dramas that are going on, as I say.
	Nothing is that simple.
	I have been told that recently that the royal family is constantly shifting bodies and that Kate, for example, is very likely to have been and to be the queen mother reincarnated into another body, which is hers, which is Kate.
	And then the same thing goes on with the other members of the royal family.
	So They have learned how to transfer souls to use bodies.
	Dan Beerish considered himself to be a person who was artificially sort of soul transferred into the body he currently inhabits and another being was moved aside.
	And so on.
	So this kind of thing does go on both against the will of the being and also with the full sort of acknowledgement and willingness of the particular being.
	And it's going on all the time.
	It's amazing.
	On this YouTube channel, Light Killers, it's the head of Illuminati, who's behind it, obviously.
	It started again, and he is threatening to take down or destroy the pyramids of Giza, where you were recently, and in a ritual together with the, like, ritual for rising of the god Osiris, and they would kill the child of Harry Windsor.
	It's like...
	The way of their thinking is so different than usual people.
	And we were talking before about that they will use the Bible and the full deceived people, the satanists, full ordinary people.
	You have something like 2.2 billions of Christians.
	And one and a half billion of Muslims and everything is infiltrated by the Satanists, all Luciferian.
	And I just would mention what one of your, you have interviewed Anthony Patch about CERN. More about CERN, if you remember.
	But he has done some series of interviews, 2016 I believe, where he says from his Christian perspective that he views, he sees the New World Order,
	that you have Lucifer, or how you would like to call this being Lucifer, Who is like the CEO of the whole corporation of the New World Order and they know him that the people are just on the level, just the information that they need to know but they don't really see the whole picture.
	How could you...
	Could you say something about what you believe is his view or you are multi-conditioning as I understand?
	Well, not conventionally so.
	However, I do have a belief in what you might call Christ consciousness and believe that there was more than one Christ that they put them into a composite for the purposes of control and creating the Bible that was written by Christ.
	A bunch of men, basically, who wanted to disinfo the world and lead them astray in certain ways.
	And it's a playbook that the Illuminati follow.
	In other words, their idea is, as they will make it happen, it doesn't matter whether, you know, It's not going to happen.
	It's something that they basically use as instructions to then create.
	And I can say that I don't believe that this idea of Lucifer being the head of all of it.
	I think that we give names to these particular beings, but there are many levels, as I say.
	And I think you...
	The dark does go up to higher levels than people realize.
	A lot of people think that if we get to the 5D, there will be no dark.
	They like to believe that.
	I'm not one of those people who believes that.
	And I also believe there are spiritual and light wars and hidden wars as well going on in creation.
	So, you know, Anthony Patch, I mean, I understand people.
	What I find most interesting but not very appealing is that most people want to have a reductionist view of the world and the scenarios at hand because they can't handle the powerlessness that they feel when faced with the bigger picture.
	And I think that that is a very limited view of, you know, multiple realities and the interdimensional nature of our lives.
	So I just don't, you know, I think time and space are an illusion, all time and space.
	and space is in essence happening simultaneously and so there is a lot of different ways of thinking about this game that we find ourselves in in these bodies but to get hung up on Just sort of looking at the ground and seeing yourself only in the material reality.
	It's nothing that I've ever done in my entire life.
	I've always seen the unseen worlds and known that there were light beings and beings in other dimensions and so on.
	So, what can I say?
	If somebody wants to have a religious point of view that is a form of mind control that was brought to the planet purposefully, The so-called tablets that were given to Moses were, if you want to believe that story, were in essence orders for the humans to follow from the Anunnaki.
	And the gods talked about in the Bible, most often when they talk about God, they're talking about the Anunnaki, which are very fallible beings that are not all that Evolved, if you want to call them, call it that term, and so on.
	So it's kind of, I don't know, it's almost laughable to me, the preoccupation with the Bible that people have.
	Yes, it's a useful tool, and it can engender a certain amount of beginning spirituality and so on in in young people and people who are not fully aware but it is an extremely limited document and so I have to say that that's my view of it.
	I do see that prophecies of the future are things that the Illuminati are going to make happen again.
	It's a playbook and Interestingly enough, Leo Zagami referred to it as such as well.
	He, having been part of the P2 Lodge for probably most of his life, which is a group of dark magicians reporting to the Black Pope.
	So, you know, this is the story, and Anthony Patch can...
	Believe whatever he wishes and put it in any terms that suit him.
	He's a very intelligent man.
	He has a lot of good things to say.
	And it's not necessary for me that individuals have all of the answers.
	I think it's great.
	And the reason I do interviews the way I do is that I'm actually trying to paint the picture I'm describing now through the various beings that have stories to tell.
	And if I was able to interview an out-and-out full-blooded reptilian, I would be looking to do the same thing.
	So I think this is the only way that people are going to understand how multidimensional and how many faces the creator has, if you want to look at it like that.
	With rituals, I would like to mention the Notre Dame fire.
	Have you noticed how much ritualistic Yes, certainly.
	Well, I mean, Notre Dame has always been a symbol in Paris.
	And it is, of course, any church is an Illuminati bastion of power.
	And I'm sure that the Notre Dame has been used for many blood rituals throughout time.
	And the fact that it was...
	Attacked or burned possibly by their own hand indicates that they are possibly trying to create a new world order type of embodiment in Notre Dame.
	I believe with all the funding that came through to rebuild it that it certainly won't disappear from Paris.
	It's fascinating.
	You know, there is a lot of symbolism that went on behind it and, you know, various things like the day and who was behind the situation, literally.
	It is also...
	Quite interesting in terms of what's happening in Paris and how the people are rebelling against the New World Order there.
	And yet at the same time, there are very strong attempts to take control of Paris.
	And I believe it was also probably something of a shot across the bow at Marconne.
	Um, and it's, uh, according to at least Michael Shrimpton, it was orchestrated by the Germans, again, the German intelligence going back to the Nazis.
	So depending on which group wants to take, you know, um, responsibility or credit for, uh, for, for burning it.
	Um, I think it, it is, uh, I, you know, when I, I've lived in Paris actually for short periods of time and I love Paris and I can say that, um, A couple years ago, there were a lot of floods, and the Seine was flooding, and they had to move a lot of the art pieces, or at least they had the excuse to move the art pieces out of the Louvre, for example.
	It's very possible that they have been secreting away a lot of these gorgeous art pieces, and Notre Dame is no exception.
	There's probably incredible art pieces that had to be removed when the fires started.
	What will probably happen is that they will be replaced by forgeries.
	And this is the kind of thing that went on in Iraq.
	So they're always, you know, pilfering, taking away the authentic sort of art pieces and secreting them away, whether they're going to other planets, whether they're going to underground bases in preparation for some Earth whether they're going to underground bases in preparation for some Earth changes that they're going to create to have her.
	You know, it's important to know that when they decide to do something, according to the playbook, as magicians, they use magic.
	In a sense, they follow the astrological information.
	They follow the energies, the ley lines, etc.
	And they follow the trends.
	And in a sense, they listen to how...
	The sort of sensate universe speaks to them and then they react and they follow in us.
	So in essence, what they're doing when they create something is following the lead of the energies.
	And so you can sort of see they're not actually working against the flow.
	They're working with it.
	So these can be good ways to track where they might put their energies next, etc.
	And, of course, they do telegraph out to us in their coded language, which I know you love to read and interpret.
	And so does Jordan Maxwell, and so does a host of other people, of course.
	And, you know, you can follow these clues and begin to understand.
	I mean, Ole Damogard in tracking the false flags and the symbolism there became and has become quite astute at predicting where they might hit next.
	And they signal this ahead of time again.
	Part of the reason they signal ahead of time, as people will know, has to do with...
	You might call it, for lack of a better word, karmic debt.
	They consider if they have told you, if they have told people what they're going to do, and you refuse to listen or don't have the intelligence to put it all together, that you deserve to die because you're not intelligent enough to see through to the truth, what in essence is the truth.
	So...
	This is what they're doing.
	They're constantly playing a game, if you will, from the dark side with the light and challenging the light.
	In this way, from my perspective, it does work to serve the light because it forces the light to become more light and to actually transcend.
	So that's the dynamic going on there.
	Just about this Notre Dame and also Nibir, I would say something that people have noticed that the construction workers put their, now I don't know what its name is, where they're walking around when they are rebuilding.
	Rebuilding seems that it was a shape of a cube and the Illuminati caused They're the Satanic Luciferian religion, Black Cube religion, at least on this like channel.
	And so, and that the Black Cube is actually Nibiru, they say.
	Nibiru is not the planetary system, but the biggest artificially made object.
	It's their words.
	Biggest artificially made object in The world, and this Notre Dame, it was quite obvious like they waited 23 minutes, specifically 23.
	23 that means 666.
	And also on Notre Dame you have these two pillars, like the Freemasonic two pillars, and for me it's obvious that they want to rebuild the third Like the fallen spire that was burned with something else that reminds the New World Order.
	And it's in New York, the so-called Freedom Tower, where the head of Illuminati says that he wants to then live, that he will tour from Jerusalem, but he's not We're going to walk around in white gown as a Jesus Christ in Jerusalem in the Temple of Solomon that he wants to rebuild,
	but he will actually live in New York in the Freedom Tower.
	For me, it sounds like freedom to lawlessness.
	And he will have his company, umbrella company in New York.
	So he's saying what he wants to do to us.
	As you say, they are telegraphing to us.
	But I want to speak this about Nibir.
	Next week we are going to speak with Deborah Tavares, and it would be great to speak also together, all of us, Anthony Patch and David Icke about what the head of Illuminati says about Nibiru.
	He says that he will make us to worship Nibiru, not only him, but Nibiru, because...
	and there was a video that he took down on light killers, that he says this, I don't know how much He is a good deceiver.
	He could have master degrees in deceiving people, of course.
	But he says this, that moon is an artificially made object.
	Yes, we know this for a long time.
	Yeah, that he will fool people that this object is...
	that it's...
	the...
	It's working on electromagnetic fuel, and it's like it will last forever, but he will fool the people on Earth that the fuel is getting, that it's running out, the fuel, and the Nibiru can save people by somehow refueling us.
	So that he will fool people on Earth by this lie, it's what he said before he took down the video.
	So, I would like to discuss the possibility that this is how he wants to have this black youth religion that they are announcing, have been announcing for thousands of years.
	Okay, well, I think the individual you're talking about is a relatively young man who had a YouTube channel.
	He sounds quite mad, and I don't believe he's actually the head of the Illuminati.
	And I also believe that Mark Richards is more correct when he talks about this particular queen.
	However, it really doesn't matter.
	And in the end of the day, I couldn't care less what this guy says.
	People can listen to him if they wish.
	They can listen to all kinds of Satanists predict this and that.
	And most of them will tell you that they run the world and they're the head of everything.
	But, you know, words are cheap and they can say whatever they want.
	The reality is that we know that we're at a situation on planet Earth where actually free energy is really the way of the future.
	So all of these fossil fuels, even though they do recover themselves and continue to be in supply, the paradigm is scarcity.
	this is where they want you to focus they want you to focus on the idea in the future that things like water is going to be scarce that you have to pay for water that you have to pay to live here that you have to you know the these are all the same you know kind of prison rules that they've had since day one on planet earth um I like to think that in the days of Atlantis, there was a lot more awareness.
	That was the last time it is said that the ET races lived alongside humans on this planet.
	And that since then, this hasn't been the case, but it will, again, be the case in the future.
	And we are approaching that.
	And I can say that Atlantis spelled at least twice, two different ways.
	And one of them certainly was by being hit with an asteroid that was, in essence, hit with a bowling ball because they use these...
	They use planets and asteroids as weapons and so on, and dice and spears.
	See, there's another...
	I forget what it's called.
	Something's nuclear star, whatever it is.
	Anyway, Mark Richards talks about that.
	So, you know, these are just fear tactics to kind of focus people on Having something else to fear, whatever.
	It's nonsense.
	We know there's, you know, free energy.
	We know there's ultimately, actually, there's these neutron stars that have a very sophisticated form of energy that we're actually able to access at this time as well.
	There's incoming energies coming into the planet because of where This whole galaxy is moving, merging with Sagittarius at this time.
	The Sun is reacting differently.
	It's part of the reason for the chemtrails, not the only reason, but it is to block the Sun.
	The Sun can feed you.
	You don't have to eat as much if you look at the Sun.
	in the early morning and as they say during sunset to fuel your body so these are also it helps to activate your chakras and so on and So these things that are said to put people into a fear mode is simply so they get into a survival sort of hand-to-mouth existence mentally.
	It's really a consciousness game.
	If you allow them to put you into these places through consciousness...
	Then you simply haven't learned how to become strong within your own consciousness and to be more self-realized.
	There are many techniques for becoming more self-realized and for basically learning how to block out the negative energies and thoughts that they send at you constantly.
	So...
	Actually, I think I've been doing this for long enough.
	I actually do need to go because I've been broadcasting earlier today as well.
	So I appreciate your time and this chance to share my views.
	Is there any closing remarks that you would like to make?
	It was just to ask if you can say something about your coming interviews but people will see them if you don't have time.
	Okay, well I am going to be interviewing Colin Wolford tomorrow who is something on An expert researcher from England who has focused on the alien autopsy and has a different point of view than, I guess, the one conventionally put out there.
	I think a lot of people believe that that's a fake autopsy.
	And there is some reason to believe that there may have been more than one sort of body and more than one sort of thing going on there.
	So that's tomorrow at 1 p.m., Pacific Time.
	And I am going to be interviewed also by Hidden...
	Let's see what it's called.
	I forget the name of it.
	Something Knowledge.
	Forbidden Knowledge.
	That's the name of it.
	So there's a channel called Forbidden Knowledge.
	They want to interview me.
	This week as well.
	I think that's Thursday.
	And then on Friday, I'm interviewing Andy Lloyd about Nibiru, about Planet X, whatever you want to call it, and his latest book, which is called Darker Stars.
	And he wrote a book many years ago called Dark Star.
	And he has some new research that he wants to share with the world.
	So we're going to be talking about that on Friday.
	And that is at 1 p.m.
	Pacific Time.
	So those are the interviews lined up for this week.
	And I have more questions.
	Things in the works coming forward in the next few weeks as well.
	And then eventually I'll make it over to England for my Awaken Aware UK conference.
	Again, you can go to the Project Camelot.tv website and go click on Events, the menu item called Events, and you'll see a drop-down there.
	And you can also see the...
	If you go to the Egypt 2019 tab under events, you will also be able to scroll over to the tab that has to do with all of the rave reviews we got for our recent trip to Egypt, which was very, very successful and a lot of fun.
	People that are interested, we are planning a trip in 2020, around the same time of year, April.
	If you're interested, please check that out.
	You'll learn a lot about the various travelers' points of view of what went on during our fascinating tour.
	Yeah, it will be great to see some videos if you want to publish from Egypt, from the trip.
	It will be great.
	Yes, we did make a documentary which is already available on my YouTube from last year.
	This year's documentary will come out sometime in the next month or two.
	And so that, you know, we try to shoot footage while we're there to share with people.
	So, yeah, it should be a lot of fun to watch.
	Certainly a lot of people really enjoyed the one we did last year.
	And I do highly recommend it.
	And you mentioned that you would love to go to Turkey.
	Yes, Turkey is a fascinating place with a tremendous amount of, well, reptilian Draco symbolism and other things.
	And of course, Gobekli Tepe is a fascinating site in southern Turkey, if we're able to go down there.
	It's close to the border with Syria, so I'm not sure how we can manage that, but we'll have to see.
	Thank you so much, Carrie, and I'm looking forward to new interviews and all your work.
	Thank you, and it's great to talk to you, Alexandra.
	I don't know if you're doing any more conferences, but you used to put on conferences in Prague, correct?
	Yeah, but because there are legal problems, I have been under attack here in the Czech Republic.
	Right.
	So, right now, I'm not planning any of that.
	So, we will see if it gets better.
	Okay, and your website just for the people listening is fromillusion2reality.com, correct?
	Yeah, but I will take it down soon and do a new one if it gets much of the legal problems.
	Oh, I see.
	But I have YouTube channels and the English in English are From Illusion to Reality and Alexandra J.B. From Illusion to Reality.
	It's blocked by YouTube, but I hope I will be able to publish soon again.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Well, good to talk to you.
	And so thank you for doing the simulcast with me and take care.
	And I guess we'll see you next week with Deborah Tavares.
	Next week.
	Bye-bye, Karen.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	So I guess I'll close that down and see if...
	If that works.
	And thanks, everyone, for watching and listening.
	And I'll be back tomorrow, I think, at 1 o'clock p.m.
	Pacific time.
	And that's, again, to interview Colin Wolford.
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