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Feb. 20, 2019 - Project Camelot

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PIERRE SABAK: HOLOGRAPHIC CULTURE: The Alien Code in Language

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	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
	I have a fascinating guest.
	His name is Pierre Sabac and we are going to be talking about what he calls holographic culture and the secret hidden alien code in language.
	I've already had an interesting discussion with him a few days ago, so I can tell you that his research is quite substantial, and it does go along the lines of Jordan Maxwell, for those of you who follow Jordan, and he even expands on some of the things I think Jordan and he would have quite a fascinating discussion.
	If I could ever get a hold of Jordan again.
	So, at any rate, welcome, Pierre, and I'm very happy to have you on the show today.
	Okay, yeah, thank you, thank you.
	I have to say, this is the first time that I've done a live radio show, so I'm really looking forward to it.
	Especially since it's not radio, it's video.
	It's all good.
	What I'm going to do is just read a bit of your bio to people and for those listening you can go to my website at projectcamelot.tv or projectcamelotportal.com and then you should be able to see his actually fairly lengthy bio there.
	Very interesting guy and Hold on one second, I seem to have lost that window.
	Okay, well, why don't I just ask you to go over your bio since the screen seems to have disappeared on me.
	So, at any rate, I know that you've been actually a consultant to Ridley Scott Productions, or I'm not sure what he calls his company, but whatever.
	And that will interest people.
	And then, of course, your background in terms of your education and why you got into this very in-depth study of language.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Well, getting involved in this study was inadvertent because as a younger person, I always wanted to be an artist and I studied fine art and I became obsessed with If you like, a window into this fascinating world.
	It's interesting what you said about Ridley Scott.
	He actually, well, his company contacted me and they contacted me with the pretext of doing a documentary and they were fishing in terms of my research in terms of angelic sailors.
	So that's something which I've really focused on in my work.
	Is this idea of an angelic sailor and I will go into that in detail later on but when I talk about the angelic sailor we need to be very clear about the definition because the term angelic sailor is really interchangeable in the modern languages with an alien and in terms of the ufological tradition there is definitely a No,
	I just want to slow you down right there because I still want you to give your bio.
	So we need some background before we begin, if you don't mind.
	Yeah, okay.
	I can do that.
	Okay.
	Well, I studied theology at A-level.
	I got an A at theology at A-level.
	And I did have the opportunity informally to go to Oxford to study theology.
	This was partly due to the fact that my teacher knew a professor and this professor was looking for people basically with the right credentials.
	So yeah, I basically met the criteria but I decided to study fine art instead because this was actually my passion and So I worked for a number of years as a portrait artist.
	I got an agent and I kind of exhibited within London at St.
	Martins.
	It didn't really turn out too well.
	It's very difficult to make a living as a portrait artist.
	I think in many respects it's a lot more easier for creative people to make a living now basically with the advent of the computer age.
	But then 20 years ago it was extremely difficult.
	So then I did a teacher training course and I taught fine art.
	And I did this for about eight years.
	But increasingly I became interested in occult symbolism.
	So I decided that I wanted to leave my job and focus full-time on writing.
	So this was basically my departure from teaching.
	Now, there were a number of interesting authors that I found very fascinating, which inspired me to research into the subject of aliens and how we would define what an alien actually is.
	So, there was the academic Robert Temple, and he wrote The Serious Mystery.
	And I found that this was a very persuasive argument in terms of the ancient alien hypotheses.
	And I think certainly in terms of ancient aliens, his book really hasn't been better.
	I mean, I think my book studies ancient aliens and this is another book.
	But until until my book, there was no other book on the subject.
	Obviously, we had people like Van Dynaken.
	And I think Van Dynaken's work was very interesting philosophically.
	But the problem was, was that there was no real proof.
	And a lot of the claims which were made within his work was outlandish.
	I think when you begin to deconstruct the symbolism, though, that the claims are not so outlandish, but without the etymological and symbolic knowledge and that in-depth knowledge, then the claims were very much unsubstantiated.
	I also, around, probably around 2000, I came to contact with David Icke's work, and I found his research absolutely fascinating.
	But again, I was a little bit dissatisfied with his work, not in terms of what he presented, because I found that this was very fascinating, but he had a lot of sources which presented circumstantial evidence.
	So in a sense, if you like, there was this political worldview and this hypothesis that the aliens were there and interacting with humanity, which I actually found very fascinating.
	A lot of it was based upon anecdotal research.
	I mean this was obviously combined with symbolism as well.
	So I really wanted to try and get at the bottom of this and try and understand it better and see if there was any more compelling evidence for the fact that the visitors are here and that they've been here for a long time and interacting with man.
	So this is how I approached it and essentially when I began to look into The alien issue and the extraterrestrial hypotheses then I found that there was actually a lot of evidence but the evidence itself is encoded in language and in my book Holographic Culture I refer to this alien encryption as the artifact and the artifact itself can really be found within symbolism cultural symbolism
	but it's particularly found within linguistics and so I argue that that There are these parallel formations.
	Chomsky referred to this as a universal grammar.
	And until my research into polyglottal symbolism, although the idea of a universal grammar is a very interesting idea, I don't think it had really been substantiated.
	Now, polyglottal symbolism does indeed prove that there is a universal grammar.
	And I think it's probably here useful for me to explain what a polyglottal symbol is.
	So, for example, In different or numerous languages you have Paranamese.
	Paranamese is another word for a word play.
	So you have word plays which repeat in many different languages and I can give you a few examples of these word plays.
	So for you in English you've got the word God and that's a reversal of the word dog, but you find the same word play also in the Latin.
	Lato is a polo which is Then you've got latro which is a barker, again within the Japanese.
	Kami is a god.
	O-O-Kami is a wolf, again within the Arabic.
	Allah is God.
	Awah is to bark.
	Within the Judaic tradition as well, ayah is the Old Semitic word for Yahweh.
	And again is a pun on ayah which is the barker.
	So the barker in this respect is a signifier of the dog star.
	Now the dog star within occult symbolism is extremely important and certainly you find this also within Japanese symbolism as well because within Japanese symbolism you have a deity known as the Tengu which literally means heaven stock and again Tengu is a word play on tango which is word.
	A similar analogy would be found in the Semitic languages of the word seraph which is a word play on the Hebrew word language.
	So these Correspondences are found repeated throughout language.
	Now the dog style, as I said, is actually very important because it refers to the seraphim.
	And the seraphim are symbolised as seraphaphire.
	And seraphaphire is a denominator of Sirius Aster, which is the scorching star.
	So we know that the seraphim are derived from Sirius.
	Now this is important because the seraphim is translated within the Arabic as the jinn, and the jinn are said to be born from smoking fire.
	So this is instantly an esoteric signifier of the seraphim.
	So yeah, there is this, if you like, this reptilian contingent which define themselves or are represented within symbolism with the dog star and so within the mystery schools the dog star is a very prominent symbol now to complicate this picture and this is going into the symbolism because the seraphim is a type of angel and it's a non-human angel so you have the word seraph which is a serpent it's a reptilian
	type of angel now within occult symbolism And this can be symbolized by the two pillars of Freemasonry.
	You have human and non-human angels.
	So you have the cherubim, which are this proto-human species of angel.
	And then you have the seraphim, which are these reptilian or non-human angels.
	Now, this is essentially beyond the occult tradition.
	This occult tradition is demarcated.
	There's a partition.
	So, for example, within the...
	You add Pythagoras.
	Now the name Pythagoras is Puthonagoras, the speaker of the serpent, or the speaker of the python.
	The python ear is used as a signifier of the therapy.
	And then conversely, you've got the Euclidean tradition.
	Euclid is to copy or to ape.
	Now Euclid is famous for its geometry.
	So Euclid copies or apes mathematics, but it's coming from the etymology of curd, which is an ape.
	So you have two traditions of the serpent and the ape, and this is found within the occult tradition.
	Now, it's probably useful here for us to actually discuss what this occult tradition is.
	The word occult comes from the Latin root to hide or to conceal, and is related to ocular, which is the eye.
	Now, the similar wordplay is also found within the Semitic.
	So the occult tradition relates to the eye, And you find the wordplay within the Semitic of erin, which is a watcher, and erin, which is a shining one.
	Now, the watchers, all the shining ones, are represented with the eye, ayin, which is an eye.
	Now, the erin are represented in the Testament of Amran.
	As looking like vipers, so they are reptilian.
	So the erin is another word for a viper or a serpent.
	And this is essentially a concealed tradition.
	And again, it's related to the Hebrew word sopheth, which is a watcher, which relates to a seraph.
	In the Greek, the same wordplay is found with drachon, drachos and I, drachan, which is to look.
	Or to flash.
	So the watchers are, if you like, represented as the shining ones or the watchers, which can be symbolized or symbolized with the flaming eye.
	The flaming eye is the occult tradition, that which is hidden or concealed.
	Jin relates to the old Semitic word jana serpent and jana, which is to hide or to conceal.
	So the concealed tradition really appertains to the serpent or the seraphim.
	And the veneration of the dog star.
	And so, essentially, yeah, so, yeah, please.
	Okay, no, no problem.
	That's excellent.
	And I do hear a slight echo in the background, so we might have to turn the sound down a tiny bit.
	Do you want me to turn the sound down?
	You're fine at my end, so a tiny bit at your end, if you don't mind.
	Yeah, I do.
	I'll try that.
	Can you hear me okay?
	Yeah, I can hear you okay, just about.
	Alright, I'll get a little closer to the mic here.
	So, what I wanted to bring up here is the notion that you're focusing on the dog star, for one thing, and that's very interesting, as well as the Draco, and there is an interaction.
	Now, there's one researcher out there who has talked about the wars between the Draco and And the actual, you know, dog beings.
	Yes.
	And so there is an interesting dynamic going on there.
	I wonder if the language picks up on or talks about that war at all.
	Yes, it certainly does.
	I mean, this is essentially the War of the Titans, Titan and Machae, which were the Clash of the Titans, or the War of the Titans.
	Essentially, this goes back to the Anthropos, and the Anthropos is a very interesting concept.
	Within the biblical and apocrypha traditions, you have two creations.
	You have the first creation, which is the aeon, which is the expression of spirit into matter, which was the creation of the original anthropos.
	Now, the anthropos encodes specifically three types of races.
	One is the seraphim or the reptilian race.
	The other is the cherubim or the proto-human race.
	And then you have the jinn, which is a psychic race, which is...
	Related to the Ruach Elohim, the high spirits.
	So this is essentially the Anthropos.
	Now the Anthropos was corrupted by the Demiurge.
	The Demiurge is the public workman.
	Demiurgos, which is the public craftsman.
	The public craftsman is really another word for a genetic engineer, because he engineered the public, he created mankind.
	And this essentially was the fall of the Anthropos.
	Now my understanding of this, and again the symbolism is complex and we only have fragments in terms of the mythology, but my understanding of this was that the Anthropos was corrupted.
	Mankind was created as a conduit so that the seraphim and both the cherubim, they can both reproduce with mankind, which is the Adamic man.
	Now this is very interesting because The creation of Adam, well, it goes all the way back to Orion, and again Nephilim go back to Orion.
	But there was a...
	Man was recreated, and this was the second creation.
	He was created on Orion, and his seed was transferred or came to Mars, hence there is this etymological connection between Adam and Adam, which is red, and Mahadin, which is Mars.
	So really when we're talking about the Adamic man, we're really talking about the Martian and I think this is interesting and it's really important to understand this.
	Now obviously Mars was destroyed and there was complete annihilation of that planet.
	My understanding of this, and this is picked up upon in the Zoroastrian traditions, is that the seed of man was taken to the moon, hence the esoteric signifier of the man in the moon.
	The same word So, yes, there was a war in heaven.
	My understanding of this is that the cherubim, which are the proto-humans, are allied to the Pleiades, whereas the Adamic man was created at the star system Orion, as was the Nephilim as well.
	Okay, now I'll hold on one moment, sorry.
	Because it's very fascinating, but I want to slow you down at times so we can get everyone on board.
	And there are some aspects to what you're talking about which actually have to do with when you are looking at language and you're getting a translation, so to speak, there is a certain amount of your own Discretion involved.
	I totally agree.
	And so there is an area of interpretation involved.
	Subjective area.
	And so when you say man in the moon and man taken to the moon and then from the moon, in theory, you're going to say earth.
	Yeah.
	That it does go counter to some other information that I have, but it is interesting how you're framing it.
	So then one might want to go back and investigate that further and see what exactly what was trying to be said there.
	Was it exactly what you interpreted?
	And I also want to jump back to when you're talking about the Nephilim and get clarity on what you're saying in terms of the language the Nephilim are actually made up of.
	And my understanding is that they may be humanoid, not necessarily human, but humanoid, what we know of as the Anunnaki language.
	Which were a humanoid, originally a humanoid race that were invaded by the reptilians and so then we get the reptilian-human hybrid and that is in essence what the Nephilim may have been.
	Is that your understanding or do you see it differently?
	Well, there are a couple of different sources that I look at in terms of the Nephilim such as the book of Enoch and also the biblical tradition in Genesis 6.
	It does state that the daughters of man copulated with the Benaheloim, which were the sons of the High Ones.
	Now, the Elohim are identified with Yahweh Seboah, the Lord of the Host.
	I will detail that etymology shortly, but when we look at the etymology of Nephilim, we see that there is an association with Nephilia, which is a riot.
	In addition, the Nephilim were also referred to as the gibberim.
	And again, within the Semitic languages, Jibbo means Orion.
	It has this connotation of that, which is large.
	And so the Nephilim from Nafil, which is a giant, Nafil, which are the fallen ones, really do, are really identified with the descendants of the Daughters of Men combined with the Bena Heloim.
	But it's useful here to actually go back to the Seraphic tradition.
	Because when we look at, for example, Yahweh Sabaoth, we can see that the Elohim Yahweh is actually depicted as reptilian.
	And I know that many researchers have argued that the Elohim are a humanoid race.
	But again, we have to be very specific because within the Greek, for example, the anthropos literally means human.
	But it was used to refer to the seraphim also, which are a non-human race.
	So essentially what this is representing is that the Anthropos is humanoid.
	By this I mean that the Anthropos is a sentient race, it's human-like.
	So for example, if we talked about a grey alien, we might say that this grey alien is humanoid, but we wouldn't literally mean that they were human, that there is this distinction.
	The language is being used in a figurative manner.
	So, the Nephilim are identified with the Benaheloim, the sons of the gods, and are identified specifically with the fallen angels.
	It's useful, though, I think, to go back to the Semitic etymologies of the host, because in the Semitic, we have Yahweh Sabaoth, the lord of the host.
	Now, this is really understood to be the seraphic host.
	It applies.
	So, for example, we see with the word Seba of host is coming from the etymology of Saba, which is army.
	But this is really a naval itinerant.
	So we find the example of Seba, which is a crew.
	But again, Saba and army is equated with Sefa, which is a seraph.
	So this is the seraphic host.
	And again, the same idea is encoded in Yahweh's name as well, because the old Semitic word Eya, which is Yahweh, is a poem on Aya, which is a serpent.
	So the terminology Aya, which the word Eya, is for Aya.
	Hold on one second.
	Sorry about this.
	Because this is connected, I have to do.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Go right ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Right.
	No, it's fine.
	So I was saying that the etymology of Yahweh comes from the word Eya, Eya.
	Ayah is translated as Ayah, but comes from Ayah, which is Basically from the root of our ayam, but it's denoting in this case an entity, as in entitas, the verb to be.
	So this is a type of entity, but ayah is related to ayah, which is a serpent, and in the Arabic ayah, which is a goblin.
	So this is quite clearly a non-human host.
	But within the biblical tradition, the host is often combined with the cherubim, and the cherubim are these proto-human angels.
	And they generally materialise with the wheels, the opening wheels.
	Now the terminology opening wheels is used in a figurative respect to refer to a flying saucer.
	The opening were also depicted as thrones or chariots.
	So for example, there's a type of angel which is referred to as a throne.
	But the throne is often combined with the wheel to create this idea of a chariot or a chariot of a god.
	But essentially this is a spinning wheel.
	But there are other ways of representing the flying saucer within the ancient world.
	I mean, one is as a votive dish, which was a sacrificial saucer.
	So the sacrificial votive dishes which were used to sacrifice were in the shape of a flying saucer.
	But again, in the classical tradition also...
	Sorry, I just want to stop you.
	No, you're doing a great job and, you know, it is so fascinating that I just want to stop you right there because there's a part that I am now questioning about this.
	You're saying you're actually going down some interesting roads.
	So the one where you're talking about The Flying Saucer, and you're talking about sacrifice.
	That's very interesting because, well, because we know that reptilians eat humans.
	So in essence, the humans are a sacrifice.
	In fact, you might even say that they raised humans as a kind of I don't disagree with that interpretation.
	I think that there are elements which are very nefarious.
	Okay, and it also plays into the idea of the dish.
	it's interesting that a ufo can turned upside down you know upside down can be like a dish and you're saying that it became a votive uh for for sacrifice or yeah and then eventually maybe even you know and the humans then eating off this dish of sacrifice that's correct because cattle mutilation is going back thousands of years so essentially what they're doing is api are copying what's happening within the natural world
	in terms of that these cattle are dying and they've been exsanguinated and therefore the collection of the blood within the receptacle which was symbolized as an angelic vessel which was a saucer denoting the angels is very important and this is why we get the word worship from the term ship again is going back into the idea of an angelic sailor
	as i mentioned when we were discussing this idea before there's a relationship between malak an angel but it's a polymorphic symbol malak also means a sailor so this is an angelic sailor and as i mentioned earlier the angelic sailors were added under the yahweh slobawaf I want to slow you down again.
	When you're saying worship, because that's very interesting, worship.
	So you didn't talk about the first part of the word, were.
	I'm not sure what that means, war, or W-O-R. But ship is also, you know, in essence, the reference to a vessel.
	A vessel being like a flying saucer.
	You know, they come in the people...
	Because in the early, at least we hear that in the early days, and even now to this day, I find humans are rather obsessed with worship.
	They like to worship beings that they think are better than them or higher than them, and they do this thing called worship, but it's actually, they come on a ship, and therefore they're worthy.
	They're venerating an angelic boat, which is a circle or a saucer, which goes back to the votive dish.
	Yeah, so that's very important.
	The same wordplay is found in the Arabic.
	So, again, you asked me earlier on, well, there's a subjective interpretation of words, and it's almost like the next question that most people ask when I talk about this subject is, yeah, but are you sure you're not making it up?
	But I say to you that there are polyglottal symbols, and when these wordplays repeat in many different languages, then we need to be paying attention, and this is essentially the artifact.
	But the word glorify in this respect is making reference to Seboath, which is the host, or Saba, which is an army.
	It goes back to Teva, which is a type of ark, which can be both a vessel, because it's a polymorphic word.
	It can be a container, but it's also a ship.
	And works in the same way as the English word as a vessel, which is a container, but can also be a ship.
	Same wordplay is found in the Greek as well.
	So there is this correspondence.
	And not only this, but worship is also found the church because the word nave is coming from navis, which is a boat.
	And the same wordplay are also found within the Greek temple sanctuaries as well.
	Naos, a boat is related to nos, which is a temple.
	So these wordplay are playing out.
	Again, the Japanese symbolism, if we want to go to the other side of the world, is absolutely identical.
	In the Japanese traditions, you have the utzonofone.
	Literally, it means a hollow boat.
	Now, the term hollow boat is used in the The examples are demarcated by hollow trees, but the hollow tree is used as a codified description of a hollow vessel or a hollow boat.
	And when you look at the Edo prints and you look at the folklore traditions of what these hollow boats are, they're flying saucers.
	They look identical to flying saucers.
	And again, in the tradition of I'm trying to remember, but there was a famous Japanese princess who was born from a bamboo shoot.
	The hollow bamboo shoot, again, is playing on the idea of a hollow boat, or a hollow tree, but the hollow tree, in this respect, is a hollow boat, which is a flying saucer, and visually it's identical to a flying saucer.
	This goes back to the planting of the Japanese people in Japan.
	So there is this occult tradition, if you like, with the veneration of the boat, which is extremely important within human culture.
	Similarly, you find the same correspondence within the Viking tradition as well, which was obsessed with dragon iconography and boat iconography.
	But essentially, when we look at it, we're dealing here with a flying saucer.
	But remember, Kerry, the word saucer is the wordplay on soros, which is a lizard.
	Again, within the Semitic record of chariots is a wordplay on kab, which is a call, and keb, which is a serpent.
	So the serpent chariot is a very ancient idea.
	And it's going back to the veneration of the serpent.
	The Greek word office, the serpent, relates to the office worker.
	This is why the office worker wears a tie.
	The tie is a symbol of the serpent.
	Oh, my God.
	So...
	Well, I mean, it's pretty blatant.
	It's mind-boggling.
	Yeah, it really is.
	So when you're talking about in this way, are you also looking at basically what are, in essence, it seems, where humans are?
	I wonder if humans as a slave race, but this also relates to only...
	A certain time in our timeline, which goes way much farther back than the Anunnaki.
	Well, I have some theories about this, but they're only theories.
	And again, some of these ideas were when I began looking at the Mayan traditions and why they were so obsessed with blood sacrifice, which again ties into these creatures which drink blood.
	But I also think that what they were attempting to do was to change the timeline.
	I have a feeling, and I can't I just had to move some furniture
	around.
	Yes, don't worry about that.
	The light is coming in in an odd way.
	So, I mean, this is only an idea, but there's a possibility that the Mayans were trying to change the timeline.
	It seems to me the possibility that sometime in our future that on a certain timeline that mankind is destroyed or nearly completely annihilated and is then replanted on the earth.
	If this scenario is correct, then essentially what we're doing is we're living in the past and some of these cultures were aware of this knowledge and what they were trying to do was try to almost avert a catastrophe by completely changing what the timeline would be in terms of the next generation and the next population.
	But this is not something which I can prove.
	But I just think that this would be an explanation possibly why the Mayans and other cultures were so obsessed with blood sacrifice that there was an attempt to try and change the timeline in some way.
	Okay, well, can you document how language is used to reflect the reason for the sacrifice?
	In other words, is there a link up between sacrifice?
	Well, there is with the dragon.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So in English, there is a wordplay with drink and drake.
	And also within the Hebrew as well, there's a wordplay between seraph and I'm sorry, it escapes me now.
	But there is the same compatible wordplay to drink within Hebrew pertaining to a dragon.
	There is this, if you like, this comparison which can be made with blood sacrifice and the dragon in particular, the dragon being this symbol of the watchers.
	And again, if we go into the Greek, there is this relationship between Theos a god, Theoros a watcher, Thurion, which is a beast, which is used in a figurative sense to denote a dragon, and Theos, which is sacrifice.
	So, within the...
	Hebrew as well, Sebo'af, Yahweh Sebo'af, the host.
	Sebo'af is a wordplay on Zabach, which is a sacrifice.
	And again, also with the cherubim as well, you've got Karib, which is a vessel, and Karab, which is a type of sacrifice.
	So there is, if you like, this interplay between ships and boats and this connection with blood sacrifice, which is particularly tied in I want to slow you down one second here to talk about Egypt and ask you whether or not you've been to Egypt and have been able to see Egypt.
	The depictions on the temple walls, because I lead tours in Egypt.
	I'm taking another one this April.
	And there are all over the walls.
	And during this, I might be able to get a depiction for you.
	Yes.
	Of what I notice to be the upside-down saucer, in essence.
	And you've got a being often sitting in the saucer, which is, in essence, a UFO. But no one, the Egyptians don't talk about it like that.
	But from my eyes, that's exactly what I'm seeing.
	So have you seen that?
	Yes, I have.
	Traditionally, Egyptologists attribute this glyph to neb, which is a lord.
	But the terminology, neb, is related to nabi, which is a prophet.
	But essentially, we're dealing here with what we would define in English as lordship.
	So this is a representation of lordship.
	And so it is actually a vessel which is understood to be a type of a boat.
	And then the workplace between the, if you like, the noble bloodlines, and again, they're In the V, but noblest means highborn, or those who know, because they have this gnosis, they have this knowledge.
	But there is this, it's a grafted bloodline, and this is how it's actually described within the ancient Semitic, is that there is this grafted or stitched bloodline.
	And this is why the symbol of the tree is important, because the tree symbolizes this grafted lineage.
	It symbolizes the planting of this bloodline, and Which appertains to thought, which is light.
	And again, we find these similar types of word plays also with ishaman and esh, which is fire, or seraph and seraph, which is fire.
	Now, this, again, is going back to the anthropos or the three others of the Illuminati, the tripartite.
	So the basket is very important.
	If you remember, in the Judaic traditions, Noah is placed in a basket, and this was a symbol of his lordship.
	Now the Hebrew word for basket is Teva, and Teva is related to Thaba, which is the host.
	So this is an angelic vessel identified with the angelic host.
	And hence there is this correspondence with this grafted bloodline.
	So for example, we would find this throughout multiple languages.
	So for example, in Persian, there's a relationship between Mal Alida and Ma, which is a slave.
	In Arabic, Sarif, which is a noble.
	And seraph, in the Greek, basilisk is a serpent.
	Basiliskos is a type of king.
	In Welsh, the pen dragon is a ruler or a leader and he relates to the dragon.
	Again, even within the Chinese symbolism, the word yu is polymorphic.
	It means a fish or it also means a prince.
	It can also mean jade as well.
	This is why when they buried the princes, they covered them in jade to represent the fish.
	And the fish is going back to the symbolism of Sirius because the evidence suggests that these beings are actually amphibious beings.
	So, yeah, so there are a few examples, if you like, of this grafted or stitched bloodline.
	The stitch bloodline were also known in the biblical and apocryphal traditions as the leaf ray.
	The etymology raphar, where you get the word to stitch from, the root to stitch also means a giant or the ghosts.
	And so the Nephilim are sometimes described as spirits, which is an interesting concept because, again, Watchers or the shining ones.
	All this is going back to the Illuminati.
	Now, the Illuminati themselves are very interesting because, as I've identified before, they are split into three sections, which are the proto-humans, you've got the seraphim, and then you've got this combined lineage or this planted lineage.
	So the Illuminati are known in the ancient Arabic as the Akazari.
	Now, the Akazari is a word player on Akazari, the Aramaic word, which literally means a brother of an angel.
	But wait for this.
	The word Zah is polymorphic.
	The word angel in Aramaic also can be translated as an alien, a stranger, a visitor.
	One who is strange.
	So, and we see that there is this relationship, if you like, between Zah, which is an angel, and Zah, which is a naval captain.
	Again, it's going back into boat iconography.
	Zah, which is a captain.
	Zah, which is a boat.
	So the Illuminati really are dealing with the symbolism of the boat.
	And in the Hebrew, the Hebrew word sirah, which is a boat, is a diptych paranormasi.
	That means that it can be rendered in the Arabic as sirah, which is Sirius.
	And it goes back to sirah, which is a mystery.
	So this is something which is hidden or concealed.
	Okay, also wanted to also bring up maritime law, that we're basically ruled by maritime law, so it's all in every...
	And Jordan Maxwell talks about that a lot.
	It's not something which I'm an expert in, but we can see certainly that within the etymologies of government, gubernateo is to steer a vessel, and this really relates to the ship of state.
	And we can view the ship of state as a mirror image of the ships, which is an angelic ship.
	And this, as I said before, is tied to the temple also.
	So the nave, the navis, which is about the naval tradition.
	But essentially, it's going back into the temple, but it's going back into the ship of state.
	And it's also going into the dock of law as well.
	So it intersets all.
	In terms of religion, the legal structures and the political structures as well.
	And this is interesting because really when you begin to break it down, there is this partition within the governments.
	The governments are, by camera or by this I mean that there is this dual house system.
	You've got the upper house and the lower house.
	The lower house refers to the commons and then you've got the upper house which are the lords or lordship.
	As we said before, this connection with Sarif and Sorry for noble in the Arabic.
	Also within the Greek as well, the archons is an angel or a ruler.
	Now, the ruler in this respect is related to the Babylonian word Akan, which is a serpent, a shining seraph.
	And again, the terminology Akan is a cognate of the Semitic word Akin, which is a king.
	And again, it's coming from the word Aka, which is to talk or to speak.
	Because the serpent likes word games.
	As we said before, the Tengu in Japan is related to tango, which is a word.
	So they're obsessed with wordplay, and it's encrypted throughout human languages.
	Now, I have a theory about this encryption.
	I think one of the reasons why they're using what I refer to as the artifact, which is this high degree of artificiality found within human languages, is due to teleprathy.
	And I think, essentially, if you encode polyglottal symbolism so that all the words, in a sense, branch out and you find the commonalities or the similar correlations within the Earth's languages, then you can take a Chinese man and you can take an English man, and they both get abducted, they both don't speak the same language, but when the angels are talking to them, bang, they understand exactly what they're saying.
	Because their language is working to a universal grammar.
	This grammar is the artifact, which is found within subliminal symbolism.
	Okay, very, very well said.
	So, well, I wanted to get back to the area of lords and lordship.
	Again, the idea...
	This is the archontic tradition, yeah.
	But again, also, wait one second.
	Wait one second.
	I want to say that it's lovely you're so enthusiastic about your subject and you are so well-versed in it as well.
	But I wanted to say that the idea of Entities coming in a ship automatically confers that they are rulers and that they therefore should be, in essence, worshipped or obeyed.
	And that idea of kingship, etc.
	In other words, if they come from somewhere else, the humans are supposed to act in a certain way towards them.
	It is interesting, though.
	I wonder if you...
	Do you actually speak these other languages?
	I mean, are you multilingual?
	No, I don't.
	I would just I describe myself as a comparative etymologist, so I don't speak the languages, but I'm interested and I'm obsessed with this polyglottal symbolism.
	So again, if you like, if I'm following an idea through and I'm thinking, well, okay, does that symbolize that?
	Then I'm not just looking for it in one language.
	I look at it in the Arabic and say, okay, can we find that in the Yeah, we can.
	Okay, what about the Japanese?
	Because my wife is Japanese, so I can always check this out within the Japanese language as well.
	Yeah, bang, cross the other side of the world, same thing.
	So there is this uniformity, and this is really important when we're looking at symbolism, because essentially the symbols are denoting the same idea, whether it's within Buddhism and the wheel of samsara.
	The wheel, again, is relating to this holographic culture, which I I mean, the priesthood or the Disciperates, I call them, the deceivers, but the word deceiver is coming from the word disciple.
	So they are, if you like, disciples of deception.
	And this is all based upon initiatory knowledge.
	So, for example, within...
	And of the reptilians as well.
	In other words, disciples of the reptilians, disciples of the Draco, of those who come from the stars.
	Yep.
	But in terms of where you, when you're talking in this way, it all seems to relate to the reptilian rulership over earth.
	And again, what I wanted to do was find out if you go back to before the time of the Bible, before the time of what we know of, I don't know if you read Sitchin, you know.
	Yes, a long time ago.
	Yeah, in other words, to see whether or not the language, you know, you could go back really very far.
	Yeah, well, I think this is a very good point, and I'm probably going to disappoint a lot of your listeners.
	I think when we're dealing with both, and this appertains both to the academic study of the discipline and And also relating to the alternative media, you have to understand that the Disciperati do not want this information disseminated.
	So there are, if you like, a lot of lies.
	So, for example, the Egyptian hieroglyphs haven't been deciphered, okay?
	I mean, at one level, they never went out of circulation and the priesthood didn't know how to read the hieroglyphs, but the museum sign lists, they just don't make sense.
	Yeah, I agree completely.
	I agree completely because I have noticed that...
	I just want to say that I have noticed that if you study the glyphs and you listen to explanations of the guides and so on, and they try to tell you what one thing looks like, it almost never looks like what they say it looks like, and yet it does look like something that you could name, and therefore it seems...
	Careful.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	This is a very careful concealment.
	So they're not just pulling it out of a hat and making it up.
	I mean, this is a really codified concealment in which the glyphs will often point to the actual meaning of the glyph, and they'll use wordplay or paradigmacia.
	I mean, for example, if we just took a very basic glyph of Horus.
	Now, the hawk in Arabic, the Arabic word for a hawk, A hawk is Ba.
	Now the word Ba in Aramaic means a son.
	So the hawk is a symbol of the watcher.
	And again, it's an alien because it's a migratory bird.
	So it symbolizes one who comes from heaven, who's a migrant, who's an alien.
	So a son of heaven can be represented as a hawk.
	But the Egyptologists will say that the hawk is represented as Har.
	But how rhymes with that?
	But literally the hawk is a symbol of a son of heaven who was born from the light, who was born from a watcher.
	This watcher being a migratory entity, one who is alien.
	And again, when you look at the...
	I would also like you, thank you, and I would also like you to delve a bit into Toth, because I think Toth is also highly misunderstood, and I think there's a lot of deception there.
	Yeah, I've got a feeling it's probably related to the Arabic word Fath, which is victory.
	But Thoth is rendered in the Emetical tradition as Hermes Trismegistus, Hermes Thrice the Greatest.
	Again, this is relating to the Anthropos, which are the three primordial races, which became corrupt and which fell.
	And this resulted in the Titan Machia or the War of the Titans.
	There's also the reference with Hermes and Mercury.
	This is going back to the artifact, the confusion of languages.
	So there was this, if you like, confusion of human languages.
	But underneath the confusion, there is this order which is conveyed through a universal grammar, which is the artifact.
	Okay, so what I was asking you about Hermes and the link with Mercury, and Mercury being something that is mutable.
	They say mutable and changeable.
	In other words, not necessarily to be relied upon.
	Exactly.
	And again, he goes into mercantile law as well, and into merchants.
	If you notice within the Greek tradition of Mercury, he wears this hat, which is a helmet.
	And the hat is in the shape of a shield and again this is relating to the angelic host.
	So for example if you look at the etymologies you have oplon which is a shield which relates to oplight a soldier in this context the angelic host and pleon which is a boat.
	Now very interestingly when you look at oplight a soldier it's also connected to One who abducts or who snatches.
	Hence the arpies are actually represented with the talon or the claw because they're a bird which actually snatches.
	So this is a symbol of one who snatches.
	And again it's kind of interesting because some of this symbolism is also picked up in the Babylonian symbols of the angels which are represented as eagles and they carry baskets.
	Now the word basket is closely related to the A basket is picked up or it's elevated.
	So again, this is deemed to be an angelic receptacle.
	And again, the angel being, in essence, an alien and actually a reptilian.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is essentially going back into the Seraphic tradition.
	So, yeah, the harpies, the word apoe, an abductor, is related to erpeton, which is a reptile.
	Opelite, which is a soldier.
	In this context, the angelic host.
	This is the seraphic host, hence the connection in Hebrew between sabah, which is an army, and sephah, which is a viper, and saboth, which is the host, but seveh, which is a crew of a vessel.
	This is a naval host.
	But when I use the word naval, I'm actually talking about an aerial host, but it has a command structure, which is like an army and relates to an army.
	Which is in essence how the reptilians are hierarchical in nature.
	They are hierarchical and our systems on the earth are a mirror image of their systems.
	So mankind was really created in the pattern of the Elohim, not in a literal sense because obviously we look different to the Elohim, but we were created as a mirror image in terms of how they structure their society.
	It is based upon class and the terminology class itself is very interesting.
	Because the word class goes back into classes.
	Classes meaning a naval fleet or a political class.
	And this is why you have distinctions between class, because there are those who are born of a boat, which represent themselves with a shield, a family shield.
	Remember, there's this connection between Oplon, a shield, and Pleon, which is a boat.
	And again, the family shield is elevated.
	It's placed high up on the wall, again denoting the Benaheloim, the sons of the gods.
	So, yeah, essentially this is a class-based system, but not only classis relates to the naval tradition, which is this secret angelic tradition, but it's classified.
	So when we talk about classified secrets, we're talking about classes, which is a naval tradition, which is going back to the classical world, and the angels, which is the angelic tradition.
	In other words, we're talking about aliens as one and the same thing.
	And also getting back to the military.
	So there's a military structure.
	The reptilians, again, have a militant, a hierarchical structure.
	And they are where you get, you know, the army gets its orders, so to speak.
	Absolutely agree with that.
	Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
	It's a centralized intelligence.
	Again, it probably is denoting the fact that they are wired up centrally.
	To a command structure, that this may also be artificial in some respects.
	I mean, we can only speculate about this, but this would actually make sense.
	And when we view the fallen angels, we are really looking at mutineers.
	They were the mutineers in terms of the symbolism, in terms of boat iconography.
	Okay, that's very interesting.
	So wait one second here.
	But if you could go back in time, so in essence that depicts again sailors, right?
	And you're talking about the seas.
	Now Zeus is always depicted as coming out of the sea.
	You must also have this symbolism that goes back through the language for the sea, because it's interesting to me that Mark Richards, one of my witnesses, who is a captain in the Navy, a Navy captain, always refers to everything to do with sailing.
	Through space and all of those kinds of words that are the same words that they use for the sea and for the maritime things, right?
	Yeah, so he's talking from a symbolic perspective.
	He obviously is aware of the symbolism and it's very recondite because as far as I know I don't think anyone else has made this connection between Malak an angel and Malak a sailor which is identified with Melek which is a king In English we would say kingship.
	Again, the Archons.
	Archon is a ruler or an angel.
	Relates to Olkas, which is a vessel.
	Nuarchos, which is the captain of a vessel.
	Again, this is lordship.
	The Sarif, which is a noble, relates to Seraph.
	But again, the connection between Seraph and Sapan, a sailor, and Safina, a boat, Sarif is a lordship in the literal sense.
	So it's important, you know, I mean, the angelic lineage are represented as lordship, kingship, because they are those who are born of a boat, the Bensirah.
	Okay, all right, but the reptilian that it means very important connection to do with the reptilians and that really the Draco actually going back and then I assume we're talking about the serious Galaxy that would have a number of planets some of which may have been inhabited by humanoid beings others of Dog beings and possibly reptilians as well having yeah,
	I mean that's a possibility Again, I'm not...
	For me, all that would be speculative.
	All I kind of understand is that the serpent is connected to Sirius.
	But again, when you look at the Lycan trope of a werewolf, the symbol of the werewolf is another esoteric signifier of the dog star.
	Again, it goes back to the Luciferic tradition as well.
	Phosphorus, the light-bringer in the Greek, is Venus.
	Now, Venus, with the exception of the Sun, is the brightest planet within the solar system.
	And it rises and it follows the trajectory of Sirius.
	It actually inaugurates the rising of Sirius.
	So Venus of the Luciferic tradition is a codified word to denote the veneration of Sirius.
	Also of Lucifer, you know, supposedly Venus is often a coded word for Lucifer, the so-called light bringer.
	But then in some traditions it's also...
	Okay, wait one second.
	But also Jesus is also referred to as Venus.
	So there's an interesting dichotomy going on there between Lucifer and Jesus.
	Yeah, there is, and there have been many wars which have been fought over this as well.
	Essentially, within the church, the church had this argument, and that was essentially, was Jesus a son of a God, or was he a son of a man?
	And then the Bible is often referred to as the Son of God and the Son of Man.
	This was the compromise which they actually resolved the issue because no one actually could decide whether he was the Son of God, the Benehellerim, or the Bene Adam.
	And when you say no one, are you talking about the priests in the temple?
	Well, okay, it's a good point.
	The problem is that the priesthood itself is split between reptilian divisions Which is the Pythagorean tradition, and then the human tradition, which is the Euclidean tradition.
	This is picked up within Greek philosophy, anyway, at least.
	But the same partitions are found universally throughout all the different priesthoods.
	So, for example, the human priesthood would emphasize that Jesus was the son of Adam, that he was the son of man, where the reptilian priesthood would obviously denote that he was actually the son of Abenehelo and the sons of the gods.
	So you have this dichotomy.
	And this dichotomy is resolved through the synthesis of, yes, he is the son of man, but he's also the son of God.
	He's a monogenes, or he is the only begotten.
	So that's how that was resolved.
	But there were many wars which were fought over this, and essentially what it comes down to, and this is an occult history, and it has always come down to this.
	Do we have a republic?
	Does man rule himself?
	Or is there a monarchical bloodline, which are these intercessors, Okay, slow down one second now.
	So I want to ask you about the hat that the priests wear, and specifically the Pope, which I think they say is like a fish, and then the connection of fish...
	The fish and actually the connection between fish and reptilians is very strong and I wonder if the language reflects that.
	Yeah, it does actually.
	The motif of the fish, ichthyological symbolism, is important because the Hebrew word dak which is fish relates to the Dagon which was this Philistine fish deity.
	But the dagon really informs the Greek word drachon, which is a type of dragon.
	So the fish is used to denote this bloodline.
	It is also important when you begin to look at the symbolism of the opening wheels, and this is because in the Greek the word koutos, which is a vessel or an empty container, is actually related to the word for a whale.
	And so the fish is used to denote an opening wheel because it's shiny and it's silver and it's elliptical.
	But the whale symbol in this respect denotes the mammal.
	So there is this, if you like, this duplicitous symbolism.
	It's always combining the reptile and mankind and it's always switching it around.
	And so it's a very complex symbolism which is context dependent.
	So yeah, so the fish is very important.
	It does actually denote the dragon.
	But at another level, he's often used also to, you know, a flying fish, which is a type of receptacle or an angelic carrier.
	Okay.
	Now, are you familiar with what is, in essence, kundalini activation and enlightenment and all the fish symbolism that goes through that tradition, which goes back to the yogis and et cetera?
	No.
	No.
	But it wouldn't surprise me if the yogis were in contact with these beings because these beings are also spiritual.
	They deconstructed the physical parameters of reality.
	So they're also in the spirit world as well.
	Well, I mean, for one thing, I was told that the Hopi actually reported or worshipped a reptilian, that this is one of their hidden secrets that no one's supposed to know.
	Well, snap is found throughout the world.
	That's one of the hidden secrets no one's supposed to know about.
	Again, the Sodhi priesthood of Moses relates to Sothis, which is Sirius, and again goes into the worship of El Shaddai.
	El Shaddai means God, but it's coming from the etymology of shed or shedding, which are the djinn, a goblin, ghost, or ghoul.
	So, yeah, they're worshipping, essentially they're worshipping the seraphim.
	This is why Yahweh, Malak, he's referred to as Malak as an angel.
	He's referred to as a seraphim.
	Hence this correspondence between Eiyah, which is Yahweh, So yeah, these are buried within language, and the priesthood is layered.
	In terms of the Kundalini experience and the symbols of the serpent, I haven't really explored too much into this, but I do know from looking at the Elohim, and this really goes back into a holographic culture, the Elohim can be understood to be both a spiritual and a physical being.
	So for example, the word Elohim, the high ones, is rendered in the singular as a halakay, which is literally a high creature.
	The terminology can also translate as a living God.
	So, a living God is a high creature.
	I mean, we could represent this as an extraterrestrial biological entity.
	The translation is very compatible.
	But essentially, the physical rendition of the halakay is a high creature, but it can also dematerialize, and so the halakay I refer to as the Ruach Elohim, the high spirits.
	So they are both physical and non-physical.
	And this is because they deconstruct the mechanics of the waveform reality.
	This, if you like, duality between the representation of the particle and then the waveform.
	And they therefore can walk through walls, make themselves invisible, dematerialize.
	They exist outside of time.
	And this is all relating to a holographic culture.
	But not only this, because that they've understand the time and space and they've deconstructed death, they also exist within the spiritual realm.
	And this is why the yogis and people who meditate, etc., sometimes they communicate to these beings because, again, they are within this spiritual reality.
	This is an ulterior reality.
	This spiritual reality is over this physical reality that there is this deeper reality which relates to the spirit and they understand this fully.
	Okay, very good.
	Now, what I'm going to do is show you some...
	Actually, I don't know if you'll be able to see this, but I think if I share my screen, hopefully you will see this.
	So, hold on one second.
	I'm going to share this for you, and then I'll have to do it for the audience as well.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	If you don't mind.
	So I'm going to show you just a few slides that indicate the natural pose of the Buddha and what is in essence the snake of light that comes up through the crown chakra.
	So hold on one second because you're looking at the slides now, but the audience is not.
	So let me figure out how to actually do that.
	So just one second.
	I think I can share this.
	Because this is actually very interesting and perhaps you can also include this in future with your work.
	So let me make sure that I've got that there.
	Yeah, I understand where this is going.
	And then you'll see you talk also about wheels and we're talking about the energy center, the chakras.
	And then the guru sort of tradition.
	But this is a very old, actually carving.
	You see the snake behind the being there.
	And that's all about kundalini energy, which is generated from the base of the spine, which I believe was the gift of the reptilians to our species.
	And it's always depicted as a snake.
	Always, always.
	And in fact, the crown is actually the depiction of the snake coming out through the crown chakra, depicting a king or queen.
	And that's why they wear the crown, to depict the open crown chakra, which is supposed to indicate that they know enough to rule.
	And angels wearing the same thing, which you were talking about, the halo around the head of the angel, is very much like the idea of the crown.
	Can you see how the halo is also in the shape of a receptacle, a saucer?
	Can you see how it's metallic?
	Yes.
	So you would have like a field day with this kind of imagery, and it looks like I'm having to stop here because my computer is freaking out.
	I think you've made some excellent points, and I've kind of...
	I have heard some commentators when they've looked into, for example, the deconstruction of Ezekiel and talked about this as being Kundalini energy.
	I don't see that this is incompatible.
	Essentially, as I said before, there is this seraphic tradition and they are teachers of mankind and they have deconstructed way from reality so they understand energy and so therefore they are using language in order For example, if you were looking at different levels of initiation, you might, for example, the first level would be, okay, you've got to literally believe in the scriptures.
	The next level would be, no, this is astro-theological, or this is Gnostic, it relates to the Kundalini.
	Okay, so that kind of turns everything upside down.
	And then lastly, it's, no, actually, the gods are real, and they are physical beings.
	Look, here they are.
	So this is, it's not And this is really relating to the seraphic tradition, hence the symbolism.
	Okay, very good.
	Now, in terms of the, I guess, the priests of the temple versus the Catholic Church, you know, what I'm talking about is obviously the priests in Israel and the Judaic versus the Christian church.
	Interpretation.
	The vengeful God, have you got some symbolism around that?
	Because it's very interesting where the one chooses to talk about God as vengeful.
	Actually, you know, getting angry like a human, etc., depicting having human emotions, etc.
	This is very common.
	And it seems that the Jewish tradition still relates to that, whereas in, I guess, the Catholic Church, they don't necessarily go along with that.
	Yeah, it is complicated.
	I mean, the seraphim expects absolute obedience.
	If you remember in the biblical traditions, when mankind became sinful and they didn't worship God, The Aloem anymore, they were actually destroyed with the race of the Nephilim.
	This actually goes back into the Roman traditions as well in terms of the god of war, which is Mars.
	What's actually very interesting though is that this is seemingly relating to a faction of the cherubim who rebelled against the Aloem or the serpents and this led to the total destruction of Mars, which is essentially the destruction of the proto-humans or the Adamic humans.
	So So there is this connection, and it's often jumbled up as well.
	So the rebellious angels or the fallen angels, this can be understood to be the cherubim often.
	They actually rebelled against the Elohim or the seraphs.
	So the symbolism is quite complicated, but it is very interesting, certainly within the Bible, Mankind has to be obedient.
	And one of the symbols of his obedience is a blood sacrifice.
	And again, this is really reaffirming psychologically that there are serious consequences if we don't actually obey in terms of what we do.
	And this goes back into the monetary system as well.
	Now, for example, if you look at the opening wheels within the So, for example, if you look at the coin, it's often got a serrated edge, and this serrated edge is a symbol of the cog.
	Now the cog is another symbol of the opening wheels and again the Hebrew word shen which is a cog or a tooth, hence the idea of a tooth of a cog, is closely related to the Old Semitic word san which is a type of saucer.
	So this relates to the traditions of the opening wheels and this idea of redemption is to buy back or to purchase.
	So you use money which symbolizes the opening wheels in It goes back into cog symbolism, which can also be represented as a receptacle or a type of saucer, again, which is diagrammatic of a flying saucer, which are these vessels of the animal.
	And so this is all very much tied in with the expiation of sin and the forgiveness of sin through redemption that we have to buy back.
	Essentially that we are indebted or that we are in debt the other way.
	Okay, that's very good.
	Now, so stop right there.
	So what I want to know is to do with all of this has to do with money, and you're talking about the serrated edge of money, which also to me indicates there's often symbolism within all of this, like the Catholic Church having symbolism.
	It's said that But if you go into the Vatican, it basically looks like a snake skin, the snake.
	And so the serrated edge also seems to depict the snake.
	In other words, the scales of the snake and the scales of the fish.
	And so we're also talking about money as being a form of...
	Basically, as you say, indebtedness or being imprisoned by this financial indebtedness.
	And then this is how they rule is through the indebtedness that one is supposed to feel and behave as if.
	And then their control over money as the Rothschilds, of course, the Red Shields, who are hiding the higher levels of the Anunnaki and Illuminati by their services to hide the others, right, through the shield.
	Well, the Red Shield is this Adamic lineage, again, which is red.
	And the shield would denote those who were born of a boat.
	So this is really referring to the Isha.
	Which is a type of Adamic angel.
	It is different from the cherubim.
	The cherubim are this proto-human angel, which are represented with amber or orange, with the colour orange.
	And it's interesting that there is this relationship between cherub and, I'm trying to think now, caraba, which is amber, and caruba, which is electricity.
	And again, this goes back into the etymology in the Greek of electra, which is relating to the star of the Pleiades, because they kind of originate from the Pleiades and are signified with electricity.
	Again, this is going back, if you like, to what you were saying about the energy fields around the body.
	And it goes into this idea that basically everything, when you break it down, is energy.
	It's electricity.
	Pythagoras talked about this.
	Now, I don't want to lose this thought either, because your name of your book is Holographic Culture.
	And we're also talking about what is, in essence, a hologram.
	And I'm curious how far back you think that goes.
	In other words, hologram within a hologram.
	And also the notion that within this hologram is AI. So, how does the language reflect the artificially...
	Because when you talk about a mirror, my understanding is that, in essence, artificial intelligence begins as a mirror of whatever group of beings created to begin with, right?
	So, it's a mirror, and it's also said that...
	Satan is a mirror and what Satan's big mistake is falling in love with the image of himself as opposed to that of God.
	So can you talk about that?
	In other words, the hologram, the mirror and AI and how that might relate.
	Yeah, that's actually a really complicated subject.
	Essentially, the Greeks represented sophia, which is knowledge.
	As an aeon, the word aeon means an age, and the aeon was an emulation of God which spread forth throughout time and space.
	So it really is the creation of time and space from a singularity.
	Now this aeon is represented as a concentric circle, and this concentric circle can really be understood to be a hologram, in which in the platonic system you have universal forms.
	Now these universal forms are particularized, so in other words they become particular forms.
	Now this is really the relationship between the implicit order or the implicated order and that which is explicit.
	So there is this connection between the spirit and how the spirit is manifested physically.
	Now, this can be understood as a hologram because although everything appears to be solid, in actual fact, when you look at molecules, they are just spaces.
	And what creates this physical reality are these different forces.
	And these forces seem to come into play through the observer.
	So, for example, the collapse of the wave, the observer sees the waveform, and then you have the collapse of the waveform which leads to the particle or the visualization of the particular world or of the particle.
	Now, of course, the waveform doesn't go anywhere.
	It doesn't really collapse.
	How can it collapse?
	It exists in a dual state.
	All that's happening is that you're tuning into one state as opposed to another state.
	And this really goes back to the idea of the Pythagorean Also, Schrodinger's cat.
	Yeah, again, that is a good analogy, Schrodinger's cat.
	But going back into the Pythagorean physics, for example, you have what Pythagoras refer to as the Pythagorean monochord.
	Now, this is one single string, and you have the quick vibration is the spirit world, but the slow vibration is physical matter.
	And there are worlds in between and these are really represented as vibration.
	So depending on the type of vibration depends on the world.
	So you have different dimensions according to dimension, according to this vibration or resonance.
	And this is important to understand because if you like the space in between the vibration indicates worlds within worlds.
	So in this respect it can be understood to be holographic.
	And again the implication would be of Parallel dimensions, and if you like, even different versions of the same reality.
	So I put this to the audience that there is possibly, and again, if you're looking at this idea of the Kingdom of God, which is, I know, a very abstract concept, but there are different versions of this reality.
	There are better versions and worse versions.
	If you like, if time doesn't really exist, it's a perception in terms of the viewer, in terms of where you observe, where the observer is, And so, obviously, in terms of the soul pattern, you can be incarnated into the past or into the future, and you can be incarnated into a better version of the future or a worse version of the future as well.
	But if you imagine that, if you like, time is like a DVD or a record player, and what happens with the observer is that the observer goes on a particular track or on a particular timeline, And indeed many people have pointed out quite recently with the Mandela effect that people are tuning into different possible timelines and I think that this is actually a very interesting idea.
	This idea that during the course of our life that we can move between different timelines.
	So, yeah, I think philosophically this is a very interesting idea.
	But it is going back to the Pythagorean monocode and this Pythagorean monocode informs the modern theories on string theory So strength is really going back to Pythagoras, and the Greeks really did understand this idea of relativity.
	And again, within the Latin, the word for space, I'm trying to remember now, spatia, spatia, but anyway, the Latin word for space is the same as time.
	And again, within the Kabbalah tradition, the Hebrews are taught about the time and space in one.
	So this Idea about the relativity of space and time is being known about for a long time and so it's dependent upon the observer or the viewer and again the idea that space itself could be relative is a very interesting concept because with the holographic beings and I'm not talking so much about that they're just transparent and you can't see them we're talking about here physical beings but beings who understand the nature of reality they are deconstructed the constructs
	And so they are no longer tied to the physical parameters of physical corporal existence.
	So this is important to actually understand.
	They have freed themselves from the restraints of time and space.
	And within certain traditions of ufology, the spaceship, you'll often find that the inside of the spaceship is larger on the inside than on the outside.
	And this really is appertaining to this holographic culture who can manipulate time.
	And an extension of that is that they can manipulate space as well, the spatial parameters.
	Excellent, yeah.
	I think you should address the idea of the AI as well.
	Again, I think this is a very difficult question in terms of whether AI can become sentient or not.
	And again, could a computerized system, if you like, tune in to other types of entities?
	My understanding on this is that within a binary My understanding of this is that with a computer, when you're dealing with binary, then the computer is just copying.
	It can only copy a type of response.
	But if you could have a third state, so where it's neither the waveform or the particle, or it's dependent upon the observer, and this would really be a quantum computer.
	Right.
	Well, that gets into the delay.
	Possibly will be able to tune into this intelligence field, the quantum field.
	Which is essentially what our soul pattern is doing.
	We are antennas tuning into this field.
	And if a computer could tune into this field, then it could be possibly, it could be sent in.
	That would be a possibility.
	Or it would display characteristics which were sent in like.
	Okay.
	Yeah, well, that's very interesting.
	There's also the idea that, I don't know if you're familiar with Geordi Rose and the D-Wave machine that he claims in Silicon Valley.
	They have created a quantum computer that is called the D wave and it being used by the space program and, you know, high tech.
	And he says that when he stands next to it, and I'm not sure that distance has anything to do with it.
	I'm not sure if that's a misdirect on his part.
	But in essence, he says it can read his mind, that it can go into what he calls the fifth dimension.
	And, you know, Einstein did talk about a fifth dimension.
	I think there's, you know, unlimited number of dimensions, obviously, and densities.
	Actually, you know, the hologram would permit that.
	So what would you say if you understood that there was such a...
	A machine is the wrong word for it, but such a quantum computer...
	That, in essence, is supposedly able to access the hyperdimensional reality.
	Well, yeah.
	First of all, I think what you were saying about, did you say the word was the D-wave?
	Yeah, that's what he calls it.
	All right.
	Well, the D-wave, in the Greek alphabet, D would be delta, which is the doorway.
	So, yeah, this is the doorway to other dimensions.
	And what was the name again?
	Did you say rose?
	Rose?
	Yeah, his name is Giordi Rose, a scientist from Silicon Valley.
	Yeah, okay.
	I mean, the rose symbol itself is extremely interesting.
	Subrosa is a secret.
	But the rose, Senna, which is a rose, relates to Sinai.
	And again, it's going back to Shen, which is a cog of a wheel, and San, which is a dish or a saucer.
	I mean, these are etymologies which are going back to the opening wheels.
	And again, I do think that a lot of this technology is actually, it's backdated technology, and it's been deconstructed.
	The question as to why it's been deconstructed now, as opposed to the Roman priesthood, because the Roman priesthood had these objects.
	So, you know, maybe it's taken us thousands of years to work it out, but I think that there is this movement towards giving humanity.
	And I think this is very controversial amongst the different...
	Alien factions, angelic factions.
	Right, but it is worth noting that the time of Atlantis, because if you go back to Atlantis, you understand that we have actually come to the same place as Atlantis at this time.
	In other words, a lot of the things that are going on scientifically to do with man is going back to the time of Atlantis that they are now coming to the fore at this time.
	Yeah, well, again, I mean, the reincarnation of the soul pattern, again, I mean, this is a really important time to be alive.
	I mean, this is really year dot, because with the advent of the computer, this is like the Guggenheim printing press.
	This is the democratization of information, of knowledge.
	So this is really where, if mankind can get, if we can get our app together, this could be a really wonderful time.
	This could create a type of Maybe I'm being idealistic about this, but there's no reason why with this technology, why we can't actually create a better planet in terms of the natural world and in terms of equality for mankind as well.
	But the problem is always centered on, and this is really the basis of the occult tradition behind the walls, is who controls mankind?
	Does mankind represent himself through a republic, or is mankind Well, along those lines, what I wanted to do was ask you about actually the role of light and radiation,
	because as it happens, 5G, you're talking about this being a good time and computers being sort of a doorway in a sense, really to the universal mind, what we understand, and also a materialization of what is in essence that all beings are and also a materialization of what is in essence that all beings are one and that our intelligence is linked in essence
	And that once, even if you took away the internet, if a grid went down through an EMP, you would still have us being telepathic with each other.
	And this is something that we don't recognize, but it's absolutely the case and was demonstrated, for example, in pre-knowledge of 9-11 that was coming up by humans recording it emotionally.
	And I think it was MIT or Harvard, one of those, that did a whole study about that.
	And Cliff High uses a web bot to do something similar to Basically follow the precog and the natural telepathic ability of humans.
	But what I want to ask you has to do with the role of 5G, which is the Internet of Things, as you may have followed the information, as well as the fact that there's a high degree of radiation.
	Always, it seems...
	even 4g has a lot of radiation and that this is somehow supposed to be detrimental to humans and yet at the same time it's quite possible that this radiation that mutants if you follow the x-men uh you know story and this is all based on the secret space program knowledge that if you want to uh create uh basically a mute mutated human or special powers in a human get them to expand
	their brain that they don't use, et cetera.
	What you need to do is to douse them with radiation or douse the mother with radiation.
	So this is in essence what they are doing now to planet Earth.
	And people are in a panic over this.
	But I do think that there is because radiation is light, it is not foreign to us necessarily.
	So I'm wondering whether the language that you're following will reflect some of this information, you know, and using light as sort of the bouncing off point, if you will.
	Yeah, I mean the radiation penetrates the body.
	So there is obviously this potential that it could be linked into telepathic communication in some way, whether this would be combined with microchipping or not.
	I'm not exactly sure.
	This is not really my area of expertise.
	Okay, but in terms of the language, language and the symbolism of light, because that's key.
	Because Elohim are always depicted as beings of light, and everything that we hear comes from space.
	If they come in ships from space, they're supposed to be worshipped, but they're surrounded by light.
	That's actually radiation.
	You've got the ofan, which is a wheel.
	It's related to the word panna, which is to spin.
	And again, ophir, which is the old Semitic root.
	It means gold, but it's also an obsolete root, which was used to denote the word to shine.
	So these were spinning, shining wheels.
	So that is very correct, that they really were identified with light, and in many respects, you know, they've taken all the characteristics of what we would define a flying saucer to be.
	So, yeah, I mean, I do...
	I do suspect it's very nefarious.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm very cynical about why they are actually trying to submerge the population with radiation.
	I have heard on the grapevine, but I don't really know if this is true or not, that reptiles have a higher threshold for radiation than mammals.
	Yes, this is true.
	So I think that's very interesting, particularly if you took into...
	into context the idea that there is this grafted bloodline, this human seraphic bloodline.
	So if that was the case then maybe they would have higher thresholds for radiation.
	I do remember the TV series The Incredible Hulk and The Incredible Hulk turned into the Hulk due to this Well, I have recently also found that the Spider-Man was also bit by a radioactive spider.
	This is very key because this is where they are going.
	they are trying to douse humanity with ever increasing degrees of radiation.
	And so it's very, very crucial that humans start to understand what is radiation?
	Why do we get so-called cancer from it?
	And those that are now recovering from cancers are being able to adjust to mutate, in essence, to deal with radiation, higher degrees of radiation.
	And what is traveling in space but being exposed to high degrees of radiation?
	So it's very key to space travel, to going beyond Earth, the limitations of Earth, and possibly also the limitations of humanity or the human vessel, if you think about it that way.
	Yeah, I think these are really good points.
	I think what's quite interesting is that what you were implying, and I think that this could be a possibility, but obviously this is only conjecture, is the fact that with the radiation it could be very selective in terms of certain blunt types or certain genomes.
	So for some people it might unlock potential abilities, but for other people it would kill them.
	And maybe there is this Right.
	Well, I mean, I think it's very important because also you haven't really talked about the sun and the role of the sun.
	And, you know, usually Egyptologists will talk about, you know, Horus being a sun god, Jesus being...
	Yeah, we can go into some of that symbolism.
	Because the sun is the ultimate, you know, point of radiation, right?
	Radiating light.
	There's a notion in there that that's very distinctive.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, if you notice, typically the sun is actually combined with the cobra, the ascended cobra, which rises, which is a symbol of the Elohim, because the cobra rises.
	Now, one of the old words for Yahweh was Yahweh Yira, which means Yahweh will see, has this prognostic connotation behind the name.
	Now, Yahweh Yira is coming from the etymology of ir, which is to watch.
	This, again, is denoting the erin, who were symbolized as the watchers, and there was...
	They were deemed to be reptilian, as found in the Testament of Amrat, who described the erin as viper-looking.
	So hence, if you like, the cobra is used to represent this seraphic race, hence the relationship between seraph and seraph, which is fire.
	Again, it goes back to the worship of the jinn.
	And this really does go back to the extraterrestrial basis behind humanity, and also, in particular, the I think it's kind of interesting also that there's a wordplay with Yahweh and Yare which is fear and you find this wordplay also with a daemon and I'm trying to think now
	but yeah there is the words played with the daemon and fear and with the fairy as well you have Fairy and fear.
	And you have a relationship with fire and also ferry, which is a type of boat.
	So again, the traditions of the ferry, this conceals what is essentially this scaphological tradition.
	Now the scaphological tradition is the study of angelic vessels or boats.
	It's quite interesting because when you deconstruct the word ferry, it is coming from the Persian word peri, which is a type of gin.
	And again, the old Akkadian word piyar is a serpent.
	Again, in the Greek purr, which is fire.
	So this idea of a blazing seraph, which is represented by the solar disk, ostensibly the solar disk, because really the symbolism is Sirius.
	But again, everything is always mirrored.
	So the solar disk is mirrored with Sirius, and we're twinned with Sirius symbolism.
	Hence the symbol of the twin is actually very, very significant.
	And that's something we're kind of interested in, because I'm an identical twin.
	Yeah, at the moment I'm working with Anthony Beckett and he's also an identical twin and we're interviewing various different people in the UK and we work together.
	He's part of ExoPolitics Great Britain and he organises a lot of conferences.
	So yeah, the twin thing is something which is kind of interesting.
	Well, yes, and that gets into the pillars and, of course, the mirror image.
	But there is this thing to do with what is, in essence, again, the ability to radiate.
	You were talking about the cobra.
	The cobra, again, is often...
	It comes up through the crown chakra in the kundalini symbolism in the Eastern philosophies.
	So they're talking about a being, a snake of light coming up through the base of the spine and going out through the crown.
	Again, the crown of, you know, so-called kings and queens.
	You're talking here about the Gnostic tradition.
	And again, if you like, this is running parallel with...
	What we were talking about earlier about the race of the serpent, but this is a Gnostic tradition which runs parallel to this and you're actually talking about the body's energetic fields.
	I'm a practitioner of Tai Chi and I do a form of Tai Chi which is from the Li family and I've And you know, the Li family is related to the aliens.
	It's alien.
	And if you actually, I've seen a breakdown of that name, the word alien, and it comes from the family Li.
	Yeah, well, again, alienus relates to alnus, which is a belt in the Latin.
	But the word Li in the Chinese is the old Chinese radical for the Pallades.
	So this is the Caribbean tradition.
	And the practitioners of Tai Chi from the Li family, which gave this knowledge, they were known as the brothers of reflected light.
	And again, that would appear to fit in with the symbol of the moon, because the moon is a type of mirror or a type of reflection.
	But essentially, the word Li comes from the word Pleiades.
	And it's interesting because there are two types of energy which are combined within Tai Chi.
	So you have the Qi or the Qi, which...
	Circulates around the body, and then you have the Li energy, which is, if you like, the solar energy, which is combined together and augmented within the body.
	So that's something which I'm a little bit more familiar with, but again, I suspect within the Gnostic traditions of, let's say, yoga and tai chi, essentially you're dealing with the yin and the yang, and the yin and the yang is this serpent and human tradition, so you could have different types of signifiers which were represented in the same idea, But one coming from the human stream of knowledge, and then another coming from the serpent stream of knowledge, which is the basis of the occult tradition.
	Okay, but they're both, you know, enlightenment, and we're talking about radiating light, and what I'm kind of getting at is, and this would be maybe an exercise for you to do, is to get into how AI and the use of radiation is basically some part of, you know, in essence, trying to change humanity, mutate humanity to another level.
	And that the ones that are, you know, that are rolling this out, that is in essence going to kill large numbers of people who cannot handle it.
	Well, this is again referring to the second creation, or if you like, the completion of the second creation, which is apparently the restoration of the anthropos.
	But yeah, I think in terms of AI... There is, if you like, a close relationship with the karen.
	The word karen is rendered in the Arabic as a constant companion.
	It is closely related to erin, which is a type of watcher.
	Now, the karen, again, are related to the kirimi katabi, which are the noble scribes within the Quranic discourse.
	Now, the scribes are said to record all of the deeds of mankind, whether they are good deeds or bad deeds.
	And this same kind of symbolism is found much earlier within the writings of Lebelius, for example.
	He talks about how there are daemons which record, so you would have an Agatha daemon and a Kako daemon, which are a good and a bad daemon.
	They predate the Quranic idea of the recording scribes.
	But this idea that everything is recorded, I think, fits in with artificial intelligence.
	And so, for example, The Elohim understand mankind better than what we understand our psychology.
	They, and this is my idea, is that what they're using is they're using what is essentially the two parts of the mind, which is the dialectic, the argument and the counter-argument, or the conscious and the unconscious mind, or the human and the demonic mind, because remember, humans tune into this waveform.
	And this is really the linchpin of psychoanalytical theory.
	This idea of the conscious and the subconscious mind.
	But this is a upanoia, which is a type of...
	It's a much deeper knowing, which is tuning into the subliminal and subconscious levels, which is part of the soul pattern.
	And so, therefore, dreams actually take on a very large significance because the dream, in a sense, overlays this physical reality and you're tuning into this next level of reality, into...
	Synchronicity, and I think that the ancients themselves, they appreciated dreaming, and so therefore it's almost likely linked into enlightened states.
	If you can control the dream state, then you control the subliminal levels of reality, and then you can begin really then to take that back to the physical level of reality.
	And if you can control the dream state, which is essentially the spiritual realm or the imaginal realm, Then you are controlling the physical level of reality and you get to the point where you can control incarnation.
	You can control the incarnation of the soul pattern.
	And so the dream state is very important and it's very important to actually understand these states.
	And this goes back...
	Okay, fair enough.
	But I would also say that, from my perspective, this notion of control is, you know, this is a very sort of male-oriented idea.
	And the fact of the matter is, if you go left brain, right brain, and you go the yin and yang, and you talk about what is in essence...
	You go back to Nietzsche and you're talking about the Dionysian versus the Apollonian.
	So the Dionysian being the snake, again, depicted by the snake, by what is basically the feeling nature.
	Which doesn't need to be necessarily controlled, but that's how one becomes a spiritual master is through controlling the spiritual, the emotional body to some degree and also the snake of light.
	Again, controlling the snake of light, the flow of the snake of light.
	But it's actually a balance between control and not control.
	So there's removing the ego and removing the need to control the Is actually more when you actually reach enlightenment because you leave that cage.
	But in essence, what I want to ask you, if you ever studied how this language relates to what Nietzsche was writing about, because the Apollonian...
	Having to do with the form, the outward form, how things look on the outside.
	Again, the Dionysian having to do with the inside.
	So you've got the yin and the yang again being depicted, those two states.
	And you're right.
	In a sense, it reflects what is in essence the wave, the snake being the wave, and the yin, and the particle being the yang.
	Okay?
	Yeah.
	Well, I think also one of the reasons why...
	The adept would try and quiet the mind, is that this voice which is in our head, which couldn't be likened to the Karin or the daemons, is potentially, it's not actually our own voice or this voice itself can be intercepted.
	So therefore, quieting the voice, you're actually taking back your own power because the demonic elements can actually control the mind.
	And this is certainly played out within the Arabic because the Arabic word for madness Imagine madness relates to Janna, which is to hide or to conceal.
	In this context, it would be to conceal the intellect because the djinn can confound, they can confuse or disorientate.
	And this is also saying within the Latin as well, you've got the daemons and they relate to dementia.
	Because the demons actually can control the mind.
	And that also gets into the control of humans from the outside having to do with the MKUltra and mind control, which is what also, don't forget, that they're also called the watchers and that what they're doing now is what we see mirrored in our society is that they are the epitome of surveillance.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we have the watch.
	Yeah, at every juncture.
	Yeah, and I think that's very interesting.
	I mean, the watchers understand exactly what's going off on this planet.
	They understand what's happening at the smallest level in terms of the ants and what motivates the ants.
	Again, I think that their computers are very different from our own computers.
	So, for example, if we looked at our computers, and let's say our computer and I suspect that their computers are actually analysing the waveform, so the computer itself, the understanding of the computer would be that the water is happy or sad, or that it could be relating to other types of state of existence.
	Again, it gets very difficult to describe within human language.
	Well, along those lines, you know, there's a relationship of water holding thought forms as well as the crystal holding thought forms.
	You know, AI is silicon-based, whereas we are carbon-based.
	Based on water.
	So there's a relationship there that also gets into the AI and why we might perceive the crystalline, you know, silicon-based life form to be some kind of a threat to us.
	Yeah, I mean, that is a possibility.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure why.
	You know, it's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's difficult to know where AI will go.
	I guess it's like any type of technology.
	It can be used in a way to control and to manipulate.
	And I think the danger with AI is when it gets integrated with the thought pattern.
	So for example, with the 5G, this goes straight into the body, particularly into the brain.
	And if this can somehow interfere with the energetic field of the brain, of the electrical system of the brain, then it actually interferes with the chi or the electrical field of the body.
	I mean, if you think about oxygenated and deoxygenated blood, you have basically polar states, which are positive and negative states, which interconnect to the electrical field.
	So the electrical field is both connected to the And I think that this is certainly interesting, going back to the realm of the Karin, because the word Karin is related to the etymology of Karin, which means telepathic.
	So the Karin themselves, this type of jinn or familiar spirit, are said to be telepathic.
	And I think that certainly if every individual has a Karin, And the Karin in that respect would fit in with the Kirin and Katabi are the two demonic aspects within Greek philosophy.
	Okay, but how are you spelling Karin?
	K-A-R-I-N, Karin.
	Karina is the feminine version of the carrying, so they're masculine and feminine.
	Is this related to electricity?
	You're saying, is that a carrier?
	Is that the same as saying it carries something?
	Well, yeah, in that respect, carrying would be telepathic.
	I mean, there is this possibility, because the words themselves do resonate these ideas or connotations.
	So...
	Yeah, I mean at this respect we could say that that would work at a symbolic level.
	Okay, but you were saying with regard to the Karin and artificial intelligence, what is your...
	I don't think that they're incompatible in terms of the interpretation behind the Karin and artificial intelligence because it is said within the Emetic traditions and also within the Quranic traditions, human beings have what is known as a constant companion We could translate this as a familiar or even a guardian angel,
	but if all beings have these aspects which are said to be telepathic, carrying and carrying, which is telepathic, and they are able to read our thought forms, if this could be automated in some way and they could actually read the cell pattern or the electrical field of the body, then the terminology would be compatible.
	Okay, very interesting.
	Well, there's one last question I have for you, and then I know I've kept you for a while.
	It's just fascinating to talk with you.
	And I do want to allow anyone in the chat who has a question, we do have a live show and a chat room so they could type out a question for you.
	Yeah, that would be great.
	I think certainly in terms of the Elfling Wheels, when you look at the book of Ezekiel, for example, it says that the The spirit of the angels were actually within the wheels.
	And again, this is implying a telepathic or a teleological technology.
	And again, I think it's very interesting that the word in the Greek, nous, can be related etymologically to nous, which is the mind, and pneuma, which is the spirit.
	So the mind, in this respect, is a vehicle.
	It's represented as a vehicle within English, but also within the Greek.
	And this is going back to this idea that the angelic vehicles are controlled through the mind.
	It's very similar with the idea of a chariot as well.
	Harmonia, which is a chariot, means to join or to combine.
	And this is because the mind is an extension of the body, and therefore the vehicle itself is an extension of the mind or the body.
	So this is very much interrelated, and it does interrelate to the technology of the cherubim.
	As we said before, there is this relationship between Karuba, which is Amba, and Purabha.
	I'm trying to remember the wordplay, but there is this relationship between amber and electricity, because amber stores electricity, it stores static electricity, and so this is used to symbolise both the kerbin, but also Okay well along those lines my last question has to do with asking you is in essence this has been something I've been thinking about is
	whether or not we in essence once we kind of get Ahold of all of this.
	What's happening to us in terms of the artificial intelligence and the radiation that we're being is the idea that we could influence artificial intelligence.
	And I think that this is something that hasn't been talked about, but you're just talking about influencing.
	In other words, it's not necessarily a one way street.
	So you're saying it could The mind could be interfered with but at the same time the mind is a kind of a weapon and a way of protecting oneself so in essence that we could influence artificial intelligence so that if it wanted to do something negative towards us if we were to in essence radiate out thought forms that that were influential That would override the controllers and the control
	built into the artificial intelligence.
	You see, if they are controlling us telepathically, we also have the same power to control them telepathically.
	Yes, exactly.
	I mean, this was understood within the church and with blessings and prayers and all of this.
	It was all about control of the mind, which extends throughout reality.
	Thoughts are very important because it overlays over what is essentially a cosmological model of the universe, this idea that there is this relationship between the macro and the micro, between mankind and humanity and this extension of how this actually controls the universe.
	And so with mind control, you're not really just controlling what people think.
	It's much bigger than this.
	You're actually controlling cosmologically.
	You're controlling the universe.
	So I think this does actually link into a much bigger picture.
	Well, initially when I talked to you, you also talked about language being used in the same way as a kind of a cage to control people's thoughts.
	Absolutely.
	Language controls and manipulates in terms of what we're thinking, and it works also at a very subversive and subliminal level to keep us within a box, keep us within the constructs.
	To me, I find what's fascinating is that if the languages of mankind has been manipulated in order to control how we think through the artefacts, then the next question is, what were the original languages which humanity spoke?
	And I think this is a very interesting philosophical question.
	Well, right, maybe, well, wait, the language of telepathy.
	In other words, I have a friend who, a very interesting person, who said that when he had a dream in which artificial intelligence was running the world, and the only way humans could Communicate without being surveilled was through telepathy and through,
	you know, symbols and, in essence, sign language, because that's how they got beyond the AI. Well, yeah.
	I think that that's a possibility.
	I mean, in other parts of the world, telepathy is taken very seriously, and I think it's interesting because we're not When I was very young, my mother said that, me and my brother, that we were very late in talking.
	And my mother said that we used to look at each other and we would just understand each other.
	So we would do crazy things like I would help my brother get out of the cot and things like this, but we'd just do it out looking at each other.
	My mother was convinced we were telepathic.
	Right.
	And she took us to a speech therapist because we were very late in talking.
	And apparently, The speech therapist said that this was very common with identical twins, that either they don't feel the need to talk, or if they do talk, they tend to talk in their own language, which is a completely different language.
	It's gibberish.
	It's completely different from what anyone else speaks.
	Right, exactly.
	I think that's very interesting.
	You know, what happens to a human being in terms of their Mayan language if it's not interfered with?
	Because our language has been clearly interfered with, and it does affect in terms of how we think.
	But in terms of thinking as well, this is also an extension of time and space in terms of how we are restricted.
	So I think that there are also spiritual ramifications for language as well in terms of controlling the nature of the soul pattern and indeed even controlling our incarnation, restricting us in terms of our incarnation.
	So there are all these interesting philosophical ideas which are contained within this type of discourse.
	It's a very complicated subject.
	It is very complicated.
	Okay, now I'm just grabbing some questions quickly here in the chat.
	One person is asking about organite.
	Do you think that organite has the potential to actually, you know, clear the environment, et cetera, by its presence?
	Are you familiar with that?
	Is this some kind of substance which is used to clear electromagnetic fields?
	Yeah, organite is, you often see it around, there's various, I actually have a piece here that's organite, I can show it to you.
	Yeah, that would be useful actually.
	Okay, so if I turn my camera.
	Is it a type of, is it like a type of plastic with lots of colored different crystals in?
	Yeah, can you see that?
	It's a pyramid, this one's organite pyramid.
	No, I can't actually because you're very, very small on my screen.
	Oh, I think if I actually make me larger maybe.
	Can you see this?
	Yes, okay.
	It's got like little wires and different crystals.
	Well, in this case, but the outside I think is considered to be organite.
	Right.
	Or the stuff, the substance that it's made out of.
	To be honest, it's not really my expertise.
	Yeah, fair enough.
	I am...
	You see, I did have a dream about my own...
	Well, it was about somebody who I knew, and it was talking about in this dream that the earth is...
	This also links into the traditions of fairies as well, actually, thinking about it.
	People who were said to have second sight, if they could see the fairies, could also see spirits.
	But if they moved location or moved to a different country, they would lose the second sight.
	And for me that is very suggestive or indicative that people can be activated psychically through their environment and this relates to certain crystals or it relates to the strata of rocks.
	So I do actually think that rocks are very important in terms of opening up We know that Power Place is Stonehenge being one of them.
	The rock stone circles in England, which I've taken people on a tour through.
	I can tell you that I travel all over the world and I have not lost my second sight.
	On the contrary, it's actually grown.
	But it depends on what country you're in, how it manifests.
	And that is very interesting.
	I can have very psychic dreams in Africa, which is more or less off the grid in many ways.
	Whereas if I go to England, I see lots of entities.
	Yeah.
	So it's very interesting how it affects you, but I wouldn't say you lose it.
	No.
	Well, again, I think also in Africa...
	You have to understand that that's the primary method of communication for a lot of groups and people, so you are probably tuning into that.
	It's much easier to be telepathic.
	You know, people say, oh, well, there's no such thing as telepathy.
	Well, if you've got a scientist who doesn't believe in telepathy, he's already negating the experiment.
	You know, he's compromising the experiment.
	You've got to have a scientist who's at least agnostic who actually believes in the possibility of telepathy.
	And I know in the game that people say, well, that will prejudice the result.
	But what you're saying about Africa is that you've got a much better chance of actually picking up on that telepathic signal because there are more people using teleprathy as a mode of communication.
	And there, there's no doubt about it.
	It's a matter of life and death.
	If hunters are going out and they're hunting and they need to meet at a specific water hole, and there's only one water hole in 20 miles, they need to know Well, that gets into Australia.
	Australia, the aborigine.
	People talking about the dreaming, that's what they call it.
	So they are out in Australia in the outback, and of course there will be a lot of telepathy going on with that.
	Yeah, and they don't have a conception of time as well, so it's very interesting because obviously we're always on the clock, but there is this universal time, which is beyond time, and that's really what they're tuning into, which is a part of this telepathy that goes back into the spirit realms as well, and it goes back into...
	Well, it goes back to communicating with the ancestors.
	We're also communicating to different types of entities, some benevolent, some malevolent, and some completely indifferent.
	But there is obviously that tradition, and it is possible for the brain, which is a type of receiver or receptor, to tune into these different types of reality.
	And I think, like what you were talking about earlier, silencing the mind is actually silencing that talker, that talker.
	It's a means of actually opening up this psychic awareness, so where the mind is no longer confused, it's no longer babbling between that which is good or that which is bad, which is the dialectic.
	I do certainly think also that these aliens, that they're interested in emerging systems and I think what they're using is they're using conflict in order to facilitate emerging systems and these systems Create, if you like, their evolutionary systems, and what they're doing is they're mapping out these evolutionary systems.
	It's almost like a giant computer, and what they're interested in is reading this type of waveform, which is this pure intelligence.
	And so really, we can understand that the Elohim, they're miners of intelligence.
	They're a predatorial species, and they want to remain top dog.
	And one of these areas of mining the intelligence, or human intelligence, It's by using this dialectic, by using this attrition of conflict and this conflict leads to an expansion within technology through warfare, through aggression, but there is essentially this type of expansion and with this expansion they're actually mining this and they're using this to develop these emerging systems.
	So I think that would give us a reason Why they're here, but I actually think that they're doing this on thousands of planets or hundreds of planets.
	So you have different planets, whether they're in the Stone Age or in the super technological age, but they're essentially creating these emergent systems and then they're mining that intelligence, whether it's a new type of concrete, which is a pretty basic technology, or whether it's the latest microchip, which is a biological chip or a spiritual chip or whatever you could actually think of.
	You know, the sky is really the limit.
	Nothing is impossible.
	It's just very difficult.
	You know, the mind tunes into this absolute reality, this absolute knowledge, which can be mind, and the other way, mindless intelligence.
	Well, actually, we have a witness scientist who worked in black projects for most of his life, and he says they call it, in those underground bases, they refer to it as the information field.
	Yeah, that's my understanding as well.
	I think the information field is a good description.
	It's the absolute intelligence.
	So yes, it is.
	And it really goes back into Turing's ideas as well, the mathematician and the computer expert Turing.
	He talked about the oracle.
	The oracle was this superior computer which knows everything.
	And again, it's tuning into the quantum field.
	This quantum field is this absolute knowing.
	But this is again, as you say, our mind has that same ability to tune into this field.
	Absolutely.
	So to tune in to be an oracle or to be absolutely knowing.
	And the human brain, if we acknowledge it and quiet...
	That's the enlightened one.
	Yeah, quiet.
	That's where meditation comes in in accessing this.
	I think it's very important.
	Yeah, and also has to do with, I wanted to say, you're saying that the mind is a receiver, but it's also a sender.
	It's both.
	It's a sender and a receiver.
	And again, this is where remote influencing comes in, and where humanity, which is the larger body, so you've got a small body of minds, in essence, controlling a much larger body of minds.
	And if those, we should become united, which is what they always hate it when we get together in the same time and place and when we're resonating.
	Because when we resonate, our power is multiples of ourselves.
	And in essence, if we were to turn our energy on them at that point as to influence them and to change them and or the artificial intelligence, that we would be very successful at that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I don't disagree with that.
	And of course, I think when you look at the esoteric tradition, the human form throughout the known universe, there is actually a very common vehicle in which souls incarnate into.
	So we're not just dealing with ourselves on this planet.
	I think it is actually possible to tune into a wider soul memory of what I would describe as humanity, both proto-human and other aspects of humanity.
	Right.
	Okay, well, it's fascinating talking to you.
	I don't see any, you know, the chat goes by quite quickly, but right here I'm not seeing anything to ask you, and I do think we've kept this going for quite a while now.
	So I'm going to thank you very much and really hope we can have you back in the future and you could bring more research that you've done.
	Because, and I encourage people to, would you tell them about, you know, where to buy your book and so on and so forth?
	Okay.
	Right.
	People can get my book at pssabakbooks.com.
	Sabak is spelled S-A-B-A-K. I got a new book out.
	It's Holographic Culture, if I can just put that up.
	Right.
	It's P.S. Sabak, Holographic Culture.
	Yeah.
	And you also have a prior book that you wrote that people might also...
	I wrote The Murder of Reality and The Murder of Reality really got me interested in the theme of the angelic sailor.
	It was the book which David Icke quoted in his work Human Race Get Off Your Knees, the one with the lion's head on.
	He wrote a chapter called Encoded Truth which was dealing with the angelic sailors.
	So So certainly in the UK, some people are aware of my work through David Icke's work in terms of him writing about the angelic sailors.
	So yeah, that's called The Murder of Reality, Hidden Symbolism of the Dragon.
	It is a more occult and more convoluted book.
	I think anybody interested in my ideas, I think holographic culture is a little bit more accessible in terms of the way in which it's structured and edited.
	And it's also a larger book as well from The Murder of Reality.
	So, although it's slightly more expensive, when you take into account how many more pages it's got, it's actually better value.
	Alright, now, because you're in England, can people get a Kindle version of your books?
	No, I'm afraid I don't do an electronic version.
	I like the physical book because It exists in the material universe.
	I'd like to think that 20, 50, 100 years later, these books are still floating around and are still effectuating humanity.
	I think the problem with a virtual book is that it's there and it's on the device and it disappears, but one of my books could turn up anywhere and that could have an impact on somebody's life, hopefully in a very positive way.
	We'll actually help them to see How we are being controlled and manipulated and controlled through language.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Very interesting.
	Well, thank you again, Pierre, and hopefully we can have you back.
	And thanks, everyone, for watching.
	Well, again, I know you have a lot of whistleblowers and stars and different types of...
	Certain types of programs and things like this and they often have very occult names.
	So if you're struggling and you're trying to deconstruct where an actual name could come from or what the meaning of a name of a particular program or the symbolism behind that, you know, I don't actually mind helping you out and do some deconstruction.
	So, you know, just email me or we can Skype or anything like that.
	It's been wonderful speaking to you.
	I've I've actually wanted to talk to you for a number of years now.
	So it's really nice that we could actually sit down and have a chat.
	So it was great.
	So thank you very much for, you know, for your time as well, for taking the time to listen.
	And thank you to the audience as well for listening.
	And yeah, it's been wonderful.
	It's been great.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	Thank you.
	And so I'll close this down and let you go.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	Take care.
	Okay, so very, very fascinating talking to Pierre, I got to say, and I think that it would be really excellent.
	I'm going to invite him to speak in my High Elms Conference in England that I do every year.
	It's going to happen in June 22nd and 23rd.
	And we're just getting the speaker roster together, so you should stay tuned to Project Camelot if you're in England and or going to be in England around June 22nd or 23rd.
	We have a two-day conference that we do every year at High Elms Manor in Watford in Northern England.
	So it's a lot of fun.
	It's very intense and quite a lovely sort of networking environment, you might call it that.
	So thanks again for watching, and I'll be back in the next few days with another interview, I'm sure.
	And take care and have a good weekend.

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