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Jan. 31, 2019 - Project Camelot

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SEBASTIEN MARTIN : INNER JOURNEY IN OUTER SPACE

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And I have Sebastian Martin with me.
	And he is a fascinating individual.
	Oh, no.
	Very happy to be here today.
	And I have Sebastian Martin with me.
	And he is a fascinating individual.
	Okay, very weird.
	Anyway, I've got this new setup.
	Obviously, don't have it quite wired.
	But anyway, so what I was going to say is he is what we call an experiencer contactee, if you will.
	He's a former And maybe even current entrepreneur and executive.
	He has a new book out telling his personal story of what I call transformation.
	And there is a quote here on my website coming from his biography.
	Saying the autobiography of Sebastian Martin rings with intensity of a well-tuned turned action movie and the rigid clarity of an academic study through the mystery surrounding his birth into awareness and gathered along the way.
	So that's just the very beginning of his bio.
	There's more on Amazon if you want to go there and the link is on my website.
	So you can get everything there.
	And what I'm going to do now is bring him on the screen, and if you stand by, please.
	So, Sebastian, how are you doing?
	I'm doing great, Kerry, and thank you very much for having me on your show again.
	Absolutely.
	Well, it's a pleasure, and it's been a while.
	I'm not even sure how long, maybe a year or two since I had you last on the show.
	Something like that.
	You know, I got really busy as well on my end.
	I've been kind of forgetting the publishing of my book because I was holding tight with a publisher and the publisher unfortunately died.
	One of my friends who was also a writer was expecting him to get back to him about his book and I was basically holding on because I'm not really familiar with the publishing aspect of things.
	I was just waiting and waiting and waiting.
	Finally, my friend just contacted me and said, well, actually, the publisher just died.
	Luckily enough for me, I already jumped ship, and I decided to work with Ash Stanton at Triangulum Publishing in Colorado to publish my book.
	So it's kind of a self-published book in a way.
	It's quicker.
	Ash was helping me with the format and everything else, and he's been a great support in that aspect.
	But that allowed me to accelerate the publication itself, which was amazing.
	Oh, right.
	So, interesting dynamics there.
	And I assume you can hear me, correct?
	I can, yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think we're fine.
	I'm just double checking and making sure that everything's all right in the chat.
	So do let us know if there are any sound issues or anything else.
	And I do have the chat here.
	So as you know, this show is live and we are trying a little bit different format.
	So I want to make sure everything's working properly.
	All right.
	Well, in terms of your story, let me just say that for the benefit of the people that I have interviewed you already, and I'm actually trying to remember if it's once or twice, and I'm not sure.
	I think maybe twice.
	And so for people that want to get a lot of detail about his story, his background, everything that happened to him, You know, you can go onto my YouTube channel, where you probably are now, and just look under his name, his first or last name, and it should come right up.
	So that's two interviews with Sebastian.
	So Sebastian, now, what we're dealing with is a few years further down the road, and you've been part of this sort of sector that we, you know, call...
	Alternative, I think, is the widest kind of bucket you might put us all in.
	And I'm curious whether you're still pursuing your job as an executive or if you've left that behind completely or where you're at with all of that.
	Well, not entirely.
	When I decided to come forward with my story and go on the radio shows and be interviewed by you for the first time, I approached our CEO. So in 2014, I decided to sell the business because of my wife's health issues and it was the right move because we were growing the business like crazy.
	And we do want to be responsible for that growth with our own personal money when the bank was asking us to have collateral and personal guarantees and these sort of things.
	And so we said, no, it's too risky, so let's get some partners on board.
	And that's when I decided to approach a merger and acquisition firm in Chicago, and they represented us for the sale.
	When I sold the business in 2014, I retained 20% shares in the business.
	So I became a director and chairman of the board for two years.
	In 2016, when I decided to become more public with my story, that's when I approached our CEO of the company because I basically resigned as CEO after 10 years to become chairman of the board and to have someone else on board To grow the business in a much better way than I could have done with the expected growth, basically.
	When I approached her with the idea of coming up with my story, she said, it might be best for you to resign.
	So that's what I did.
	I resigned as chairman of the board, and I still remain a director of the firm for the multinational.
	So we have five partners, and so I'm still going for board meetings and these sort of things, but I'm no longer part of the day-to-day operations.
	Right.
	Okay, very interesting.
	So, again, what does your company sell?
	Manuka honey.
	We have a range of Manuka products nowadays going from candies to supplements to basically all sorts of health food products you can imagine with apple cider vinegar with Manuka honey as well.
	So all orientated and geared towards health.
	And that's pretty much what the company has been doing in America especially with a very excessive growth and The company represents or probably has the monopoly right now in North America.
	Right, so in terms of your life, your everyday life and how the book came together, why don't you share some of your experience in the writing of the book and how that interfaced with your actual sort of on-the-ground experiences and how you wrapped all that together.
	Yes, definitely.
	I started to do the interviews and I had no, in fact, no desire to write a book.
	I was only about to share my story and And that was it.
	And one day I decided to go to England and France to see my family and my wife's family as well.
	And while in England, I decided to fly over to Scotland to meet a friend there for three days.
	And while there, I met Dominique Bourque, who was a local psychic.
	And He was a very interesting person, but he was brought forward by an actual president of the Paranormal Society of Scotland, Nick Kyle.
	And Nick was a very skeptical person to begin with.
	And so when he brought him over to meet with me, he said, you know what?
	IPDV is the real deal.
	And if you are interested, he can do a reading for you for an hour.
	And I basically accepted it.
	I never had a reading before.
	And that's when I decided to sit down with him and have a It was a mind-blowing experience to do with spirits or at least past relatives.
	For example, my granddad showed up, my wife's dad as well became present to me.
	It was a fascinating conversation in a way.
	Dominique started to tell me, if you go online, I was not giving him feedback to feed off whatever information I could give him to relate to my family members who showed up and started to share information through him.
	I will try to skip that part from the family members and other people that showed up, but the most interesting point was when my best friend channeled, or when Dominic channeled my best friend, and started to tell me about my future.
	I was quite surprised by the accuracy of the description of my friend and how he died and everything else.
	He wasn't even aware that I went to see him in France on his gravestone and meeting with one of the members of his family while in France a week prior to this meeting.
	So there's no way I would have been able to see that on social media.
	I was certainly not sharing that with him.
	In fact, any of these experiences that showed up through him I never, you know, it was outside my realm of consciousness.
	I was not thinking about them.
	I was not anticipating to have a reading.
	So none of that would have been on social media or on the internet.
	So there's no way you would have been able to get the information from me or from, you know, the internet.
	So I was really blown away by his reading and the accuracy.
	Of his speech for my friend especially, he started to describe Zohr, the ET being that showed up in my living room back in 2011.
	And he didn't say his name, but he said, you know, he said the being.
	He didn't say the man.
	He said the being that you saw way back when.
	He didn't say the date either with big eyes.
	He said the man or the being with the big eyes.
	He said you have to trust this.
	Because for a long time, and I think I shared that before with you on Project Camelot, is that I was doubting my own sighting when I had this being in my living room.
	I thought I was turning mad and I was questioning myself a lot.
	And so, once again, Dominique was affirming this.
	He was saying, you have to trust this.
	It's a real thing.
	It happened to you.
	And my best friend, Jean-Michel, who was also mentioned in the book...
	Basically just died in a car crash at a very young age.
	And he was not into the consciousness movement himself or anything else.
	He was just like a noble man from France who ended up liking painting and he did great.
	He was a great artist.
	When he started sharing things about my future, especially my ETs, it was quite mind-blowing because he was not interested in that realm.
	But I guess his horizon expanded greatly by being passed on and trying to understand more about what's out there.
	And so when he started telling me about my future, I understood that the timeline between past, present, and future was singularity that existed That he was aware of and he was able to share with me because it meant something to me.
	It was important for me to learn it in order to move forward.
	Okay, now let me just clarify a couple of things.
	So you're saying, are you saying that your friend was telling you your future?
	Are you saying that the psychic that you were consulting is telling you your future?
	Well, the psychic was telling me this about my future based on what information he was channeling from my dead friend.
	Oh, I see.
	So in sort of real time, he was channeling from your friend who had passed on, information your friend who had passed on wanted you to know.
	All right.
	Okay, I understand.
	Okay, continue.
	So he mentioned to me that, first of all, I would have to write a book.
	At that point, I thought, well, you know, I'm not going to be writing a book, you know, it's silly.
	And then he said, and then moving on, you're going to be doing some conferences and you're going to be going on the public stage and you're going to be sharing more stuff, more information to do with this subject without being precise.
	And then down the line, he said, you are going to be creating a center.
	So whatever center that means.
	At the time, Dominique was not Giving me enough information to focus on this.
	But I was intrigued.
	And so when I came back to Canada, I basically contacted him again and said, well, Dominic, you mentioned a center.
	What would be the date?
	Roughly when do you think this would happen?
	And he said, well, probably in 2022.
	So 2022 from over a year ago, you know, was fairly significant to him.
	But to me, it was not.
	Still is not today.
	I can't conceive starting anything.
	I started with the book because it made sense.
	It was so quick.
	I was able to complete it within three months.
	And yet I've been sitting on it for two years.
	Sorry, I went to Scotland about two years ago, not a year ago.
	My apologies.
	So the book was very quick to write.
	It's got like over 200 pages in there.
	And I received some help along the way with some friends who basically were able to read through my stories and say, you know, I think you should change this and that.
	So I was able to get some very good advice for editing it.
	And at the end, I just decided to Approach any publishers very casually.
	I wasn't really into it.
	I thought, well, if it happens, it happens.
	If it doesn't, it doesn't.
	So I wasn't really pursuing it very strongly.
	And so that's when I decided to pursue whatever I was doing.
	And that's to do with the remote viewing aspect.
	And this is also mentioned through the foreword by Alia Casey, who is a former U.S. Department of Defense and Department of State staff.
	And she contacted me on Facebook just after the interview we had together in 2016.
	And I didn't know anybody, but I wasn't really paying attention to who was liking me on Facebook at the time.
	And so one day when I decided to go to bed, I closed my eyes, or just before I could close my eyes and hit the pillow, I had a very vivid, clear vision of Alia, being in Iraq at the time and she was stationed in Iraq when this happened so it was fairly live and I was seeing an event through her own eyes and this event was about her crouching down in the back seat of a car and there were some people
	in the crowd so the car was moving very very slowly through the crowd and I recognized like four or five people in the crowd that looked fairly different than the rest of the people in the crowd They had more nicer clothes, more designer clothes, but clean clothes and everything else, and they were searching for someone.
	Unlike the other people in the crowd that were more just walking along, And so I started to recognize not only that woman without seeing her, because I was seeing this event through our own eyes.
	So I could see her hands, I could not see her face, but I knew her name.
	So out of the thousands of people I had on Facebook at the time, inviting and accepting all the requests that came through me, I just didn't know who could it be.
	But for some reason, the information...
	And the impression I got from that sighting and that vision was her name.
	So I decided to reach out to her right away and I sent a messenger text and I said, look, maybe this means nothing to you, but I saw this event.
	And she was very cautious and she was not too happy about me knowing kind of who she was and what she was doing.
	I knew she was doing something to do with intelligence Well, but not exactly what.
	What I knew is that she was endangered and I had to warn her.
	So that's how it all started and how we started developing this relationship since my visions with her and it became so clear and so vivid that It took me a while to believe what was going on again was real, but then she came back to me with many confirmations over time.
	From whatever I was experiencing and living through, she was able to validate every single point to detail.
	For example, the man that was in the crowd, she sent me a picture of him and said, is that the man that you saw?
	And I said, yes, that's exactly him, but he was not wearing the same clothes.
	Very similar clothes, but not the same colors and not quite the same outfit.
	But the face, the hair, the expression, so I was able to describe everything in full details.
	And so we remained in touch as more and more visions started to flow through out of All the people that contacted me also developed more relationships with more people.
	But Alia was definitely the person that, for whatever reason, stayed in my consciousness and my awareness more like.
	There was a connection being established that I was able to share information that was way broader than my own life.
	Okay, so let me sort of clarify this here because I guess a few people might be having a little trouble following, you know, because I understand why they might because it's, you know, not the normal thing people talk about.
	But so what you're saying is that you were able to see through another person's eyes and her name is Alia.
	She is someone who contacted you on Facebook, wrote to you, and you had lots of people writing to you.
	But in this particular case, you actually, for some reason, began to see what was happening to her, I guess, in real time.
	I'm understanding maybe not past or future, but real time.
	And you were seeing it through her eyes, so you were actually, you know, what they call bilocating, and then, you know, also, in essence, seeing through another's eyes, which is totally, you know, humans do do this, actually.
	They don't always know they do it, but humans have this ability.
	And so you were seeing through her eyes, and for some reason you had a sort of, whatever one might say, a simpatico, a chemical...
	Or a frequency, similarity, or whatever it happened to be that, or a relationship going back, you know, through the ages even, and we can talk about all that.
	But in essence, you saw her in Iraq.
	She's an intelligence agent and certain things were happening.
	You were able to get in touch with her and tell her about it.
	And then she verified those things, although she wasn't terribly happy about it, apparently, because...
	As any intelligence agent in theory wouldn't be, not at first anyway, until I guess she perhaps grew to trust you.
	So now at this point, my one question is, is this the only person that this happened with or have you been sort of jumping around to other people as well in your life and starting to see things through their eyes as well?
	Yes, I've been doing that since 2016 and with over 70, I would say, missions or experiences of that realm, of that nature.
	I was certainly very busy and it was definitely way more intense and kind of random, I would say, at the beginning because When I started to contact these people in the intelligence world, I just realized that all of them were involved in the five wide agencies.
	So you had Australia, New Zealand, England, America, and Canada.
	So you can imagine all the agencies connected with each other within these countries, and I have been involved in communicating with all of these people, From various agencies who, funny enough, knew each other.
	So those kind of people are working in the same fields.
	They know each other.
	They help each other sometimes, but not all the time, because obviously, depending on what they do, they keep things very secretive and to themselves.
	But because sometimes there's a need for help, like one day Alia contacted me and said, can you help me?
	I believe there's a friend of mine who disappeared.
	And I believe he's CIA, and the last time he was supposed to be going off on a mission, he was supposed to be going to Afghanistan, and he never came back.
	And so I decided to remote view him.
	And it was not through her eyes, but it was through his eyes.
	And I was able to find the location.
	I was able to describe him in such details that, again, Alia was able to confirm and validate all of that because she knew him very well and was a dear friend.
	And so I decided to find out where he was located, and I found his location in northern Afghanistan in a mountain range, and I could see him shivering and dying in a hole, like he was placed in a hole, and I knew he was already dead.
	So when you see something, sometimes it's not necessarily life.
	For example, in the case of Alia, when she was in the car, this was not an event that was life.
	It did not occur.
	It never occurred.
	But it was a premonition, I would say, or some kind of sighting that I had about what could have happened if she stayed in Baghdad.
	And in fact, the reason why she left the country from the information I was sharing with her, she realized after the fact that this man on the street was working for a very high-level politician in Iraq, And he was searching for her along with some other people because they were trying to locate her in Baghdad.
	So her situation got compromised and thanks to the warning I gave her, it gave me enough time to leave the country and to move to other places within the Middle East.
	So she moved to Turkey and Jordan and you know Pretty much everywhere in the Middle East she's been to.
	Okay, now, I do want to wait one second here again, because you were talking about this guy who, she was a good friend of hers, who you, if I understand it correctly, you're saying you then saw through his eyes, but you also saw that he was dying.
	Is that correct?
	And you're saying, are you saying he did die, or are you saying this was hypothetical?
	He did die.
	He never came back.
	So, What happened was Alia was trying to contact his family members that she knew in the US, and she realized that the wife was working for a company that never existed.
	The people that she got in touch with very quickly decided not to contact her.
	So there was a direct cut between him and the rest of the family altogether, maybe to protect them in America.
	I'm not sure what happened.
	They thought or the CIA believed that this man, we can name John, was in Afghanistan and may have been tortured to share information about CIA or some plans that may have endangered his family.
	In the U.S. Okay, now, but you are saying this in terms of hypothetical.
	So, in your experience, you didn't have specific information about his situation, or you did?
	Are you just trying to extrapolate how he got into that situation?
	No.
	He was in a hole, so I described him, and the information that I shared with Alia, she told me at the end that the man Basically, he never returned.
	The information itself never got confirmed, per se, that he died in Afghanistan.
	But I already told Alia that he was dead, that he would never come back, which is exactly what happened.
	Very often, he was coming back to where Alia used to stay, or be stationed, and this never happened since.
	So everybody has to assume and extrapolate that this man died.
	He's not in our stage, he's not...
	And I saw him dead while I was seeing him alive as a remote viewer.
	I was seeing him shivering.
	I could describe that.
	And I was not seeing him as a first person this time.
	I was right in front of him.
	So I could see him and I could describe him.
	That's how I was able to share this information with Alia and Alia was able to validate all of his points and how he looked like physically.
	I could even describe this character.
	I could say, you know, he likes this kind of sport, he likes this and that.
	You know, I was describing details that no one else would have known.
	So, once again, if I tapped into something that was real or not, or from the past or the future, it felt pretty much alive to me because when I was seeing him, while he was still alive, the information or the impression I got as well was that he was already dead.
	This is what happens to me sometimes, actually, most of the time when I do remote viewing.
	I don't do controlled remote viewing the same way as the Monroe Institute teaches it or some other people like Ed Dames and these little things.
	I don't do that.
	It comes naturally to me.
	I've never worked at it.
	I could just be cooking my breakfast and have those visions coming in or being transported into a whole different country, seeing an event through someone else's eyes, and it happened many times.
	Okay, now I do want to ask you.
	If all of the people you're dealing with are, as you say, agents of agencies, you know, in above, you know, well, let's say top secret or some kind of secret work, is this always the case or is it sometimes just, you know, people that are in ordinary walks of life, like let's say?
	No, I'm in contact with other people that are also pretty much like me, who are either professionals.
	For example, I met with a lawyer who ends up to have easy experiences of his own, but he doesn't want to come forward with his own story.
	Therefore, I saw events through his eyes as well.
	I saw things We're very mundane.
	I'm seeing a lot of mundane stuff that comes through as well.
	But sometimes the mundane can lead to something else.
	And there's a reason for it.
	And I do pay a lot of attention to the synchronicities of these events and how those events can be related.
	Somehow it's like a jigsaw puzzle.
	You accept some information and then you just connect the dots.
	And sometimes it would take years.
	In my case, it certainly took me years to achieve the level of understanding that I have today.
	From the original experience I had with Zoe and the staff family that I decided to interact with, not knowing exactly who they were at the time.
	Over time, and especially through the, not so much the training, but the seminars or the workshops that I took, especially with Paul Elder, who also wrote the introduction of my book.
	I don't know.
	I can't see my own screen.
	Kari, I don't know if you can see the book.
	I can.
	Yes, very good.
	So in my book there's also an introduction from Paul Helder.
	And Paul Helder was also part of the Stargate program through the CIA in the US. Okay, what is his name?
	Because it might be your pronunciation.
	I'm not quite getting it because I think people would like to know.
	Oh, Paul Helier?
	Not Helier.
	No, Paul Helder.
	Okay, fine.
	Paul Elder.
	He wrote a book himself called In the Eyes of an Angel and he's a near-death survivor and he's an international remote viewing instructor at the Monroe Institute and also in Anu's Bay on Vancouver Island.
	So I decided to participate in one of his workshops to do with out-of-body experiences and during that workshop, a five-day workshop, I was very impressed with the technique of,
	you know, binaural frequencies, so the AmySync program was certainly working for me, and I was able to come out of my body, feel my own soul rolling within my own body vessel, which was a very strange experience, and simply shoot out of my body And experienced beings.
	I've experienced some dead people.
	We were in a group of 17 people, and I never met them before.
	And I, for some reason, during those sessions, I was interacting with their dead relatives.
	And I was sharing information to them that was very clear.
	And again, I knew who that person would be related to because I was seeing a man, for example, who, you know, meant nothing to me that I'd never met before.
	He was obviously dead.
	And he showed me the face of one of the participants of that workshop.
	So I knew that they were related.
	And the information I got from that was that he was, you know, the son, the dead son.
	And he showed me some bowls of ice creams as well, like two, like there was a vanilla and a Raspberry or something like that.
	I think I come up with the flavor.
	But I shared that sighting with that woman, that participant, and she said, yes, that's my son.
	He died a few days ago of a brain aneurysm.
	And as we're sharing this information, the light bulb just blew up in the kitchen.
	So again, as you know exactly that he wants to contact me or somehow communicate with his mother, I'm not a psychic per se myself.
	I certainly have some Abilities like anybody else, but I don't cherish that part of the work.
	For me, I'm not drawn to communicate with the dead people or channel spirits.
	I'm not really into that.
	My direct interest today is to communicate with the ETs and to understand Their involvement with humanity on the planet, what's happening out there, basically more than actual dead people.
	I mean, this is still pretty close.
	There are some analogies between the energies from those dead beings and the ETs as well.
	So if they live within the multidimensional realm, You know, sometimes they could cross over the same channels and the same frequencies.
	So I get that, but again, I also know the difference.
	I also know that the priorities from the dead relatives or the people sometimes be very different from the ETs themselves.
	The information that Bob Monroe described in his books as well about this energy we call Lush.
	I think you're very familiar with that term as well because you've been talking to the people that I've been talking to as well.
	They always refer to this energy that we emanate and generate that those ET beings sometimes could be seeing us As predators, they could be sucking up that energy and living off it.
	If they are parasites beings, they could certainly absorb this energy and create some attachments to our bodies and our own energy.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	So this is why, through my experiences, I've learned one great deal from where we met the first time about Kundalini Energy because I was experiencing all of these things every day, but I could not put a name to it because I had no vocabulary to attach it to.
	So I was just having fun with all of these things.
	You know, new feelings or new experiences, but without being able to put it in the context.
	And you are allowing me to say, well, what you are experiencing the way you are describing it is actually couldn't really energy.
	And so even if I was only aware of one facet of this kind of energy, It kind of expanded greatly since 2016 from the experiences that I basically got involved from the work I was doing to do with remote viewing especially,
	because as I was doing that kind of work and projecting myself somewhere else, I was also becoming very vulnerable to other entities who were spotting me and seeing me, and so I don't know exactly the effect.
	Of such work.
	If I come out of my body or do remote viewing, does it make me more vulnerable?
	Definitely.
	I wasn't aware of that before.
	Now I'm certainly more aware of this.
	Having been attacked, so I had a few psychic attacks.
	One of them led to a major one in New York City when I went for a board meeting.
	And just a day prior to flying back to Canada, I had this huge...
	Well, first of all, I had a gash on my leg, on my left leg, and it didn't hurt.
	It was just a scratch.
	But when I removed my jeans and just had a shower, went to bed, I wasn't really even thinking about this.
	I was thinking, oh, that's kind of strange.
	Maybe I just scratched myself somewhere.
	But there was nothing on my jeans that said I read something.
	There was nothing.
	It was a very odd scratch that was kind of a long scratch across the leg.
	When I went to bed, I fell asleep and I woke up at midnight feeling that I was dying.
	The energy beam that was going right through my bones was very different from the previous attack that I had the prior week.
	The week prior to that event in New York, I was in my home and I was experiencing an attack based on what I was involved in.
	I was involved in a remote viewing session And I was asked to go to a cave or into a cave.
	And in that cave, I saw a white Draco reptilian.
	And I could describe him with a bony ridge on top of its skull.
	And his skin was white.
	And there was no scales.
	There was nothing like that.
	But I could not see much of him when he attacked me.
	Because for four hours, I was trying to battle it through My own Kundalini energy.
	And I was using it to reverse my DNA. So I was trying to do DNA repair using my own Kundalini energy and it worked.
	Because when I closed my eyes and I was focusing and doing this inner work or trying to look at my DNA and even my blood cells and everything else, I could see that my Kundalini energy was going counterclockwise in a very, very slow pattern, which was not a good sign.
	And so I decided to reverse that and I was able to Reverse that current of energy to fix it.
	But it was a drag because the attack was ongoing for four hours.
	And while I was also in contact with people who do the same work as me, as remote viewers, Or we have the same synchronicities, or we have some parallels in our lives.
	Those people, I would say, they are part of my cell.
	So we are kind of attached.
	Somehow we are connected, for sure.
	And I decided to contact them, and I knew exactly who they were.
	So I reached out to them and said, hey, what's going on in your life?
	Everything is okay.
	And I said, well, actually, no.
	So they were all experiencing the same kind of attack.
	But at different types of levels and without understanding why.
	Well, for me, I knew why because it was the culprit of this attack in the first place.
	So I was not able to protect myself from that being that showed up in my session because I was not aware that he was going to be in that cave.
	That know that anybody else involved in that project warned me about any kind of ET presence in that facility.
	I was only supposed to be locating a device, an ancient device, and that didn't plan out because I was not able to pursue the mission and I had to stop it and Realizing that I made some mistake there because someone spotted me, even if I was not physically present.
	So after four hours, I was so fed up with the attack.
	It was kind of a mild attack at the same time.
	When I woke up at midnight that night, I had like a nosebleed and a migraine.
	And I never have a nosebleed and a migraine.
	So I sat down and realizing that this was going on.
	After four hours, I got so fed up with the attack that I closed my eyes again and I had this kind of burst of energy and I could see myself going through this fiber optic and hovering over the skull of this white Draco being that was projecting this attack.
	I remember myself blasting him with white light of energy in one big blow.
	And that stopped the attack instantly for everyone else in my cell.
	So they all shared the same thing with me.
	And I said, what's going on, Sebastian?
	It's all stopped.
	It's all fine now.
	So this was the first big psychic attack I had on myself then.
	And then the week after that in New York that most likely killed me.
	I had the chance of talking to some other psychics and And people who were able to review what went on on that day because I wasn't able to fight it back.
	I wasn't able to reverse my DNA. It was way more complex than the previous time.
	And so when I was laying in bed and still suffering from the same attack with the energy beams going right through my bones, I also was seeing some AI technology in my bloodstream.
	So I was being poisoned and I could describe That AI technology that was actually documented and validated by one of the members, like you mentioned, in the intelligence services at a very high level, that said, yes, that's exactly what happened, that's what they use today.
	It's almost like those guns that are shooting ice arrows to people, so it's not traceable, and somehow they were able to use that kind of gun in conjunction with some AI technology to harm me.
	And the reason being is because that same week, while I was in New York, I was also meeting with a CIA scientist for doing some work at universities on mind over matter.
	And when I approached him with the idea of releasing the information to the public, he said, that's not going to happen.
	So I basically decided to pull back away from that experiment.
	And the same night or the night after that, that's what this event occurred.
	And after five hours, I think, or something like that, I passed out.
	And I don't remember what happened after that.
	I woke up three hours later in the morning.
	I woke up, and I felt like nothing happened.
	I felt so invigorated.
	I felt like I could just fly off.
	And everything was over.
	But I'm not sure exactly what happened that day, but the...
	The following days or the following weeks after that event in New York, I received the confirmations from Zool.
	So from time to time, he kind of helps me download information or he shares information with me at random about some events that occurred or that happened.
	And he actually said to me, he said, so you know, this would never happen to you ever again.
	And that was it.
	And I never had any of these kind of experiences since.
	And I feel protected now more than ever, but the information that I got from this experience is not to fear death as much as the energy that I got involved in was so intense, so complex, that I've experienced all of these things.
	And to me, it prepares me for much stronger work.
	Not living in fear or being more cautious in whatever I do on a daily basis.
	So I don't have to worry about that level.
	Thank you.
	And that's very well said and I hope people followed you during that.
	I think it was quite clear.
	So, what I'm wondering though, because this does sound familiar to me, so I am wondering whether or not this happened like when I knew you before, I mean, you know, a couple of years ago, or did this happen recently?
	No, I may have talked about this before in a previous interview with you.
	Not the same details, but I certainly have mentioned it briefly.
	The confirmations from Zo for saying to me that I was protected, that it's not something I shared with you last time.
	I feel way stronger in my ability to do this kind of work nowadays and to help more people.
	Once again, the mundane kind of experiences still are looming around for people approaching me, for trying to test me, and even some friends who never had experiences in remote viewing, or I had an experience with a friend who is called Sherry, and she's in California, funnily enough, and the experiences she had with Consciousness is very limited.
	Therefore, when she asked me to do some remote viewing sessions for fun with her, I was able to describe her back garden and all the objects in a yard basically in detail.
	And with the exact locations of them.
	So she was quite blown away by that.
	And then she asked me the same thing about her lost keys.
	Now, this is the kind of random, boring stuff that I'm also dealing with sometimes that have nothing to do with the intelligence services or anything else.
	But sometimes it's, why do I need to prove this to anyone who approaches me?
	And it's kind of annoying.
	But I still think sometimes...
	Okay, fair enough.
	Now, what I'm wondering, though, is really, you know, how this, you might be interfacing with the intelligence services.
	They have to know, obviously, you're making this public, your contacts, etc., and the various agents you're in touch with have to In theory, be contacting their handlers, if you want to call them that, and relating these stories to them.
	And they've got to be highly aware of you at this point.
	So I think people would like to know whether or not you think on a conscious level you're involved working for these people.
	How conscious you really are of how you're being perhaps used in this capacity because, you know, well, people...
	I know people don't see all my interviews, so it's a little difficult.
	But if people remember Duncan O'Finian, he's a super soldier who has a great deal.
	He's a psychic super soldier, really.
	And that's his area of expertise, if anything, although he's a martial arts expert and all that kind of stuff.
	But aside from that, he had a partner.
	Her name is Ali.
	She goes by other names as well.
	And they both spoke at one of my conferences.
	She is sort of a handler-interfacer.
	And she seems to do something similar to your job.
	In this way.
	And so, you know, there are people I've heard that have these various, they're kind of like go-betweens, and they go among everyone, whereas the other people don't necessarily interface with each other, except maybe they work together or whatever, but they don't do it in the psychic realm, and they don't report information or warn each other necessarily, because they're not You're taking a super, what they might call a super position.
	You're stepping back and viewing the whole as opposed to seeing, you know, and you can move around from individual to individual.
	So, you know, it is said that we incarnate in groups and it is possible this is one of your groups.
	Maybe not the only group.
	You're right.
	Yes, exactly.
	In fact, Alia, you mentioned that at the beginning as well, which was very accurate.
	Alia and I have certainly some experiences That we share for her.
	Her experience started in Iraq.
	She was born in Iraq and then she became a refugee when she moved to Iran because her family members were pretty much involved in politics as well.
	And her dad was actually competing with Saddam Hussein at the time to become the president of the country.
	But they managed to escape the country and ended up in Canada at the end while going through the UK and America.
	So she certainly had some very interesting background, but the stories that she shared with me at the beginning when we first started to chat about remote viewing especially, she said, can you see...
	She basically wants to test me a lot, you know, based on my abilities, And she gave me some random scenarios of situations that occurred, but I never knew this.
	So when she first approached me with those details and said, what can you tell me about this name?
	Sometimes just a name itself could just trigger A vision for me to see an event.
	For example, I was able to remote view this person who died, and this was an event that occurred in the past, and I was able to see some documents.
	Not clearly, but I knew that they were financial documents, and as I was doing that, I was also able to link it to the person involved in those documents, or at least who it was the most relevant to.
	In Jordan.
	And this is also mentioned through Alia's foreword because she kind of describes certain events that I was involved in with her.
	There are many events that I can't talk about, clearly.
	There are still ongoing events that are very sensitive.
	And some of them obviously involve the, I would say, the Certain missions that are ongoing.
	So if it's to do with the Middle East or You know, I can't talk about this.
	So are you answering my question?
	I mean, just sorry to interrupt here, but so in essence, you know, you answered part of the question, but you now seem to be answering the other part kind of in a roundabout way.
	So are you saying then, in essence, that you feel that you are, in a sense, working for these people, you're working with these people, and I don't imagine they've You knocked on your door and asked you to sign an agreement or necessarily paid you anything for doing this, but it does seem like you're doing the job regardless.
	Right.
	That's because I'm not involved in a specific agency per se.
	I'm kind of a freelancer in a way that, you know, changed the share information with me that helps me in the work I do.
	In terms of consciousness as well and the ET realm.
	So it's kind of a give and take.
	Let's say they will share information based on what I was able to see in the past just by myself without having anybody involved.
	So they are quite forthcoming with information or at least linking me with other people that are also involved in that realm.
	In terms of the SSP and all of these agencies, I now know that they do exist.
	I've been involved with many of these people nowadays that are not necessarily on Facebook or the internet.
	They were able to contact me from contacts to contacts, and some of them are also known to you.
	The information that we share, the information that we change, Sometimes it's just a nice chat.
	Sometimes it doesn't necessarily involve any missions whatsoever.
	It could just simply be like a five-hour discussion.
	We can feed off each other in a way that, for example, if we do the same kind of work, And you have to realize that anything that I do in terms of remote viewing or using code of linear energy and these sort of things, those guys have been trained by the army to do exactly the same thing as I do.
	So they can validate a lot of these points based on their own experience.
	And also that because I'm not on payroll, I'm not really subjected to the Secrecy Act.
	I don't have to...
	Go to jail because of what I'm talking about today with you.
	As long as it doesn't impact national defense and national secrecy, I'm not a target per se.
	Right, I understand.
	But nonetheless, you know, this is an interesting aspect for people to be aware of, you know, that you're bringing forward here.
	And I think it's valuable.
	I think people tend to see the agencies and the work that people do in agencies within parameters that have limitations on them.
	But in essence, there are no limitations in that we in the public sector You want to call it that?
	Can be interfacing with those other more secret sectors.
	And also, of course, people are used as assets constantly.
	That goes on.
	But in a conscious way, in your case, it's fairly conscious, this interaction and where you are of use, et cetera, et cetera.
	But there can also be aspects of it that you may not be as conscious of that may be happening Even in the dream state, possibly, in out-of-body experiences that you may or may not remember, depending on whatever technology they apply to you, because you could sense that something went on last night, let's say.
	But you don't know exactly what it was.
	You might know some of the, you know, sort of outlying elements to it.
	So would you agree with me in this description?
	I would agree in theory because I know that this would never happen to me.
	I know that I would not be taken by those people or by these agencies, and I know they can.
	I'm not saying that they can't.
	I'm just saying that they have not done it with me.
	Well, no, I'm sort of saying you're doing something voluntary.
	I'm not suggesting they're taking you.
	I'm suggesting that you're working with them in other realms and that you're not fully conscious of those realms.
	But I'm not saying that you're doing it against your will or that they are, you know, or that stuff.
	No, I'm doing it voluntarily.
	I'm not being guided.
	I'm not being forced to do it.
	I have turned down projects that were too dark.
	You have to realize that you mentioned that too, is that the agencies are very compartmentalized and therefore you have various agencies that are also working in joint tasks.
	And you also have agencies that are working with the SSP. So various agents from, let's say, one agency like the CIA or NSA will be working for the SSP, but it doesn't mean that all of them will be knowing about the SSP or working for the SSP. That's not true.
	Therefore, there is still a level of secrecy that still resides within those intelligence services.
	And the people that are communicating with me are very familiar with both sides of the story, which is very interesting because not only they know what's going on within the SSP, they also know what's going on within their own agencies.
	And the people that are working with the other groups that are not involved within the SSP, for example, Which is fascinating because it kind of opens up to so many different factions, involves the conglomerates, the different companies and corporations that are doing reverse engineering, for example, using ET technology.
	All of these corporations are earning money as defense contractors at the end.
	Therefore, it's their benefit to safeguard this technology So it's not in their best interest to become forthcoming with anybody working for these corporations to talk to me, for example.
	But other people within the SSP who are far more advanced than those guys, who basically understand that and accept that, and they actually are okay with everything, they embrace that information as part of the whole.
	To them, it's just one aspect of the reality that may seem meaningless to them at that point.
	Sure.
	It's part of it, but they see further down the line than these corporations do see.
	Therefore, they have a much broader spectrum of understanding about the way our life, where we're heading.
	They don't want to stir the boat either.
	They don't want to change the course of history drastically, even if they're aware that this could happen.
	There are so many scenarios and so many Discussions I got involved into, that from my own experiences and my own insights, I was able to discern the disinformation component from these people as well, from the real truth, from my own experiences.
	And you know that too, Kerry.
	You have the same ability as I have.
	When you meet these people, you know if it rings true or if it doesn't.
	It's not just based on Your knowledge.
	It's simply your insight.
	You know it rings wrong.
	It's not right.
	It will never happen.
	And then the logical aspect of components from this experience will then tag along.
	You'll get more information that will confirm and validate whatever you already felt that will confirm all of that, saying, no, that's not right, that's not right, that's not possible, and this is why.
	This happened many times over and at the same time for me, it allowed me to gain some form of respect from these people because I was not gullible and I was not simply willing to accept anything coming from them.
	And so with the discernment that I had, because it was not driven by ego, I was simply just interested to learn the truth.
	I was interested to be part of the disclosure project.
	If that's ever going to happen, I'm still really pretty much believing that this is going to happen in 2020.
	So down the line, the people that are currently involved will tell you, no, that's never going to happen.
	The people in the intelligence groups will never allow this to happen.
	At the same time, there's such a limitation of knowledge from what they have from the future It's only based on one scenario, one singularity for them, but they don't understand the complexity of divergence that exists within this reality.
	We could just basically take another path altogether that may be Something that they've never explored or they never had through their schematics.
	Yes, yes, absolutely.
	So they have done a lot of exercise in the past while saying, okay, well, let's say if we get rid of, let's say, 80% of the UN population's tumour, what would happen?
	How could this happen?
	You know, what would be the effects on the planet, you know, of planets, and so on and so on and so on.
	So they've tried many, many, many different scenarios.
	But again, they are also doubting The legitimacy of the ET world for them, the ETs are very real.
	They work with them.
	They can certainly interact with them for fun sometimes, but they're very cautious.
	It's something that they try to control, but like I said, we work with them, but they know so much more than we do that we're just like an ant to them.
	So, they are allowing us to work with them, but at the same time, they could do whatever they want, you know, with us, or even our planet.
	There are some beings who are just simply here to observe us.
	There are some ETs that are here to try to take over, or at least try to take over in a certain way.
	If it's just about, you know, feeding off us, like parasites, we talked about the Lush before, same idea.
	There are many ETs that have been on this planet underground, you know, We've been talking about this as well before.
	Why do we have so many underground facilities?
	Why are they underground?
	If they're trying to protect the Earth from any kind of alien invasions, Why would they not be in space or above ground?
	Why would they have to be buried underground?
	It's not to hide themselves from the people on this planet and humans.
	It's to basically prevent wars and battles that are going on underground with some of the ETs that are trying to take over.
	And this is going on all over the world.
	It's not just in North America.
	Again, the remote viewing work that I was involved in, I was also able to help people like Johnny Hanoch.
	I don't know if you are familiar with him.
	He's a researcher and he's based in Vancouver in Canada and he approached me one day to find out about this location of Vancouver Island where I reside, saying, can you tell me what's underneath that?
	And so I went in the water Not physically, just remote viewing it, between two islands and right away I saw this tunnel, this underground tunnel that was going underneath the seafloor and it was heading in one direction.
	And I got this impression of direction.
	I couldn't see it.
	I just knew where it was heading and where it came from.
	So this is what I get in terms of information is I can see events with my eyes.
	And I get impressions or downloads of information from that same location or from that same, you know, being or person, depending on where I'm involved in.
	So that's kind of the way it works for me, which is very different from control remote viewing.
	I don't have to scribble anything.
	To me, it comes as a movie all the time.
	Yes, I have this as well.
	So I do understand and, you know, can say that this is accurate.
	For some people.
	Now, people will wonder, because you have this book out, and that was to some degree the purpose of our getting together today, I want to make sure to bring everything back to the book.
	So can people, when they read the book, are they going to be getting this kind of information in the book?
	Or if not, can you explain what kind of information they would get in the book?
	Yes, thank you.
	Thank you to bring me back to reality.
	No, you're doing a great job.
	It's all very fascinating, so thank you.
	Thank you, Bobby.
	The book itself is really based on the first chapter of my life from my birth to just before I came to your show the first time around in 2016.
	So it's my awareness and my opening to the consciousness realm of I shared the visions I had, pretty much everything that went on in my life as a child and as an adult as well,
	explaining the role of the business throughout as well, trying to see what I was involved in and how this became more of a nuisance to me for a long time because I didn't have time for this and I was battling it.
	In fact, to me, it was a challenge to grow a business And all of a sudden I have so many visions, especially of the earthquakes and the tsunami scenarios that I saw every day, pretty much.
	I was bombarded by those visions without being able to control them.
	And that was, still today I remember how dangerous this could have been.
	I was having Anxiety attacks, and I was suffering from stress, and I knew that this had nothing to do with work.
	I mean, I was very, very comfortable in my work mode, and I could have coped with lawsuits and stressed at work with big companies threatening us and anything.
	To me, it was more of a challenge, and I embraced the challenge.
	And I guess, as new as it sounds, The information that I got from 2011 made me stronger and my work ethics allowed me to embrace that as well as the workspace and the changes of work.
	I had many people who also mentioned in a book like Dada, my friend who currently lives in France, she said so many people have died from such experiences because they're so overwhelming.
	She has witnessed UFOs with me, my presence, and she's never witnessed UFOs before.
	And she's currently going through a major transformation today.
	As we speak, she's gone through this completely like 160 degrees or 360 degrees turn, embracing yoga and consciousness and meditation and everything that you can imagine.
	And she had a master's degree in education.
	She was not You know, interested in ETs before and she was able to be more aware of synchronicities with numbers.
	Every time she had the chance to try to approach me and share that information with me, it's nice to see because every time I seem to be going on the internet or sometimes sharing some information, some people are getting back to me saying, well, thank you very much.
	You can help me unlock something That resonated with me on that day.
	You know, sometimes, obviously I'm not aware of this right now, but it does mean something to many people.
	And that's great.
	I'm glad that somehow in whatever conversation that we are having today can help other people indirectly or directly, but at least it's doing its work the way it's supposed to be.
	Okay.
	Now, I thank you for that.
	I think some people would like to know what is going on with your visions of the future and this, you know, at the time you were getting a lot of visions of earth changes in essence.
	And are you getting more specific information?
	Is some of that dying down?
	Do you have any Sort of different view of the future than you originally did over time and that sort of thing.
	Right, that's a very good question.
	I certainly had those very few visions at the time that allowed me to get more prepared in my life, as prepared as I can be for my family, for my sake.
	Right now we moved to a much higher place on Vancouver Island.
	Now, many people who know me have been asking me, why Vancouver Island?
	Why are you staying there?
	Move to Colorado.
	It's much higher.
	It's got a higher elevation.
	And I keep telling them, I say, look, despite the fact that I have seen all of these visions, I'm meant to be here.
	Not to die, but to go through this major change.
	So what you have to realize is as those major health events occur, Even if I'm not saying that these exact occurrences will happen, I'm just saying that when they do occur, it generates a huge clash of energy that we can embrace and we become part of it.
	It's not just by dying, it's also by raising our level of consciousness that makes us empowered and prevent us from succumbing to the waves or the earthquakes or the fear or anything else that The changes that we are facing, if they are physical or if they are, let's say, from AI technology, it could be just an interpretation of the future events to come.
	If I saw tsunamis and earthquakes, does it really mean that those events will occur exactly the same way as I saw them?
	Maybe not.
	It could be another type of disaster that could be occurring.
	At the end of the day, all I got confirmations of from that was that I don't have to fear those changes.
	I would never move from Vancouver because of those visions.
	And I also know that I will be safer where I am now than where I used to be.
	So therefore, if I have to survive any kind of cataclysms or anything of any sort, if that event occurs, to be honest with you, the world will also get affected by it.
	It's not just bank of violence.
	So does it really matter where I'm located when this will happen?
	Maybe not.
	Okay, well, when you're talking about, that's fair enough.
	And I do want to clarify this because I understand this myself.
	I'm quite a bit like you in that regard because a lot of people, you know, the kind of work I do, I get nothing but people, you know, coming forward thinking they've got a vision of the future and they think they're correct or whatever.
	And I don't go along with it.
	I don't listen.
	Actually, even when I talk to you, I don't listen to anyone else other than, you know, for the purposes of the interview and getting the information out.
	But what I listen for is when I get an inner dictate that tells me what I'm supposed to do because...
	What I notice, and this is true of life in general, one can even extrapolate in this way, that we're all meant to be in certain places for the purpose of our souls and also for the service that we wish to perform.
	If you wish to be there for a certain group of people, if you were to move to what is supposedly a nice safe place in a nice little cave or something, you're not going to be doing your mission on earth.
	Because you won't be helping those people that you came here to help, number one.
	And number two, you won't be having experiences that you want to have as a soul.
	So it's always good to step back a little and not get so wrapped up in the game, so to speak.
	And also the physical, like whether my physical body is going to survive this or that.
	And I'm going to use an example because I was recently in the California fires.
	And we had to be evacuated for four days.
	And so I had to go through fire and all this type of thing, but we were fine.
	And we had some lovely experiences along the way during those days.
	I know it sounds crazy, but we did.
	And it was amazing the way people reacted and what we were able to share.
	And then, of course, I was able to go on my channel and share all about, you know, the deeper things that were going on in the fires.
	And I was actually there, right?
	So it has a little bit more impact than if I was just looking over there saying, oh, those poor people, so-and-so.
	So it's really the most important thing for people to realize that I think they get into a preparedness mentality, some of these people.
	What they're all about sort of huddling into a little black little hole and surviving just for themselves.
	But this is not what life is about anyway, at any time, even right in this moment.
	It's not about that.
	So I applaud that you're aware of this and that you're talking about this.
	I think it's very important point.
	And maybe you could talk a little bit more about that.
	Yes, thank you.
	And I also believe that the reason why sometimes we are faced with these experiences, it just makes you wonder, when you have such vivid visions, you just wonder, where do they come from?
	What am I tapping into here?
	I decided to be very critical of any of my experiences, one way or the other.
	That's the way I'm built.
	I can't help it.
	You know, I always have to be analyzing everything.
	And in my life experiences, I believe that some of these visions sometimes come from ETs that want to scare you and change you and sometimes want you to live in fear.
	So you may want to decide to leave and leave the place that you currently live on because they need to be there and you are bothering them.
	In some way or another, Whatever you're supposed to be doing in your lifetime, like exactly we said, as a mission to help others and these sort of things, if you're no longer there, then you're no longer achieving that goal and that pleases them.
	So inserting fear is also another way to control you and being able to get rid of you.
	So therefore, I also came to realize that since the work I was involved in and when Johnny Inok approached me, With the underground facilities and tunnels that we ended up seeing and locating, that we have physical evidence of such locations right now.
	And since then, Off the map, you can't see them on Google Earth.
	It's completely blacked out, or you can see a forest and a trail going through the forest, and that trail or that forest doesn't exist.
	There is a natural facility there that has white domes and pretty much like Pine Gap, but it's completely isolated, very hard to access, and that's how it started from it.
	When I went to one of those facilities and I was invited by one of those people there who worked on site, I was able to stay outside on the ground but not go inside the facilities.
	Some of the underground complexes have been shut down, concreted over with expandable concrete, so you don't know what's in there, but it's all been covered.
	And the people that are still working on base are telling me, and I've been sharing that on video with us, and Johnny Enoch was present, I invited him over to do this short documentary about what's going on in Vancouver Island.
	And those people were saying, we see lights coming through the concrete.
	We can hear rumbling sounds underground, but we don't know where it comes from.
	All of these weird events are occurring and it scares people because they're dealing with the unknown.
	But at the same time, there were so many alien abductions on Vancouver Island.
	In fact, the CBC in Canada is going to be releasing a documentary on the 8th of February to do with Granger Taylor, who was a famous abductee and a man who was contacted by aliens, apparently, who disappeared back in the 80s.
	And he never came back.
	And so...
	Unlike Charles Walton, this man never came back from his journey.
	He left a note to his parents just before he disappeared that night, giving his money away to them, saying, if I don't come back, you can keep my money.
	And that's it.
	It's so interesting that Vancouver Island and the place I live in has a lot of UFO sightings, encounters, alien abductions.
	And the more and more people I talk to who can describe what went on with them is in line with the facility that I was able to explore that goes underground.
	My first remote viewing is parents from that underground facility was about to be 500 acres wide underground.
	The man that worked in that facility said to me, Sebastian, you're far away from the truth.
	This is way bigger than 500 acres on the ground.
	And he showed me the entrances of the base, and one of the entrances is 12.9 kilometers.
	So what's that, but nine miles away from the original complex that has a base above ground.
	He said it's nine miles away from that, and that's one of the entrances from that facility.
	So he said three years ago, this base was shut down, and they decided to block off many of these exits.
	Using concrete and using stamp concrete.
	So on the mountain face, you can see that they used to be like an entranceway, and they blocked it off, and they put some what looked like rocks, but it's actually made of concrete, and they stamp concreted it in the middle of the night.
	So they were all working, they had all these trucks coming in and out in the middle of the night, so no one could see what was going on, even if there were some witnesses, and I spoke to some of them, Again, we don't know the people I'm in touch with, and yet they validate and confirm all the same stories, the same locations that all of these people are sharing with.
	And so, Joni and I are working in conjunction with all these people and filming on site.
	And the people that you know as well, like some in Australia, are also sharing This information for saying, yes, it's real, you're allowed to go and film because this is an inactive base, but you can't talk about other locations or other underground facilities in Canada that are still pretty much active,
	that contain some MKUltra people, and a lot of the abductees in Canada are heading into the same direction towards the Rockies, in British Columbia so but all of these facilities are connected with one another on the ground so the base that we located that we were documenting is actually more of a hub so you can imagine like a big highway you have multiple directions going in
	many countries one of them goes towards the interior of Canada Another one goes straight down towards the U.S. through Washington State.
	And another one that goes completely underneath the ocean through the Pacific, you know, towards China.
	So, you know, it's so vast.
	And all of these bases being underground, many of them are actually underwater and way underneath the sea floor.
	You can't even see them with a Google Earth, you know, imagery.
	It's completely buried underground.
	And many of these tunnels, funnily enough, The SSP has used those tunnels from channels that were created by volcanoes on the planet.
	So those volcanoes are creating those venting tubes throughout the planet.
	Every time the lava erupts, The venting tubes that are created underneath the sea floor, for example here, are then creating lakes and so on.
	And that's this typical geological reality here.
	We have tons of volcanoes around us too.
	And why reinventing the wheel when you already have such tubes that have been there that are obsolete to the volcanoes?
	They know that geologically speaking, those volcanoes, if they erupt again, would not create the same tubes again.
	Therefore, they can use those underground tunnels and consolidate them and enlarge them as well so they can use spacecraft inside those without being seen by most people.
	So they don't have to use cloaking devices and these sort of things to travel throughout the planet.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	Now, I wonder if you're aware of another sort of reason why people also should be aware that if you're drawn somewhere, there's a purpose involved and you need to follow that.
	And I know that you've got stories in which actually one of our interviews, you talked about being drawn to Mount Shasta.
	You didn't know why and you had to go there and then you had a number of experiences there that were very significant for you.
	One of the things also having to do with the future and with any kind of, you know, when you want to so-called protect yourself or whatever it happens to be, is the idea that some of us are also, our frequency is required in a certain place on the planet in order to actually keep that place safe.
	So that it's not just that the place might be safe or not.
	It's actually that we are contributing to the solidity and The frequency of the place and keeping it on a high vibration so that it doesn't actually devolve and get involved in worse birth changes and so on.
	So we're holding this space, if you want to call it that.
	And that's why, you know, I know a number of people in sort of this sector that I'm familiar with and so on, who...
	You know, have that sixth sense that they know that they're, it may look from the outside is like, you know, because I have people telling me all the time, what are you doing in California?
	Get the hell out, you know, all this stuff.
	And I mean, you know, people that I, you know, admire, or they'll tell me, what are you going to Egypt for?
	Don't go to Egypt.
	It's very dangerous.
	It's so and so.
	But actually, you know, I have to follow what I'm told, you know, my inner dictates, my inner higher self, whatever you want to call it.
	Is really saying to me and there's a very good reason to hold the space and you know we're as much a part of that story as the sort of earth and the physical external what people think of as the external world around us.
	So I wonder if you've thought about that in your own case in regard to Vancouver Island and perhaps other people can relate to this.
	Oh, completely.
	My story, especially my experiences about Vancouver Island, is I was drawn to this place from its energy that I could feel just being on the ferry crossing from the mainland to this place.
	Many people who live on this island feel the same way.
	It's funny enough, when I sold a piece of land, I had 30 acres of land where my experiences occurred.
	So, so and all of my visions pretty much occurred in that location.
	And the man that purchased my piece of land, who is also a farmer, you know, just called me like two days ago and said, Sebastian, you know, what's that?
	What's the thing about this post that keeps bending on me?
	So you're looking at like a six by six feet, sorry, inches in diameter post that is on the land and it keeps bending.
	The wood bends.
	At first you thought it was a deer pushing it across or pushing it, but no, the post physically bends exactly the same way as the step vortexes you would have in Sedona.
	So there's a Huge amount of energy flowing through the islands.
	And in fact, I think there was a website at one point that documented being one of the best places for young vortexes in the world.
	Sedona has older vortexes.
	Vancouver Island has younger vortexes.
	So, the kind of energy and the kind of people that I'm interacting with every day on that ground, I can see the change.
	I can see a major shift in people's consciousness, the way they see the world, the way they embrace the ET realm even.
	And I think we also have to thank the media for it, funny enough.
	When you see about all the information that we get in the media, still Builds up that level of awareness in the people that say, oh, maybe there's more to it.
	Why should we just be the only one in the universe at the end?
	It's true.
	We would be stupid to believe that we are the only ones in this universe to carry life.
	But yet, at the same time, it's more about embracing the subjects and paying more attention.
	I have many people, like you said, who've been saying, why do you want to leave and stay on my co-binary?
	If there's a big earthquake or tsunami, what most people don't realize is even when there's a war going on somewhere else, if you look at wars or even disasters, there's a major shift that happens in people because they actually are becoming more empathic.
	And you would not be able to become empathic if you didn't have such disasters nowadays.
	There's so much distractions from the media And from what's going on on YouTube and pretty much on social media everywhere, the little dramas that we can see and the entertainment business that we are looking at as well on a daily basis, withdraw us from the empathic level that we should be at today.
	And so there's so much disillusion in the idea of helping one another that in times of needs, when there's such a disaster going on, Then we become more empathic.
	Then we are seeing those changes within those people.
	It's a life experience.
	And I think the people involved in war conflicts as well, like soldiers and people that I'm also working with, have a sense of awareness that is way broader than most people, funnily enough.
	The people that are involved in such situations are opening up to the idea of life, death, And questioning everything and trying to be aware of more things that are out there.
	Trying to justify what's going on in the world.
	Why is this happening and where does it place us on this planet?
	For me, being on Vancouver definitely helps me being the person I am today.
	I don't think I would have been the same person if I stayed in Montreal or in France or anywhere else.
	I traveled a lot with my wife.
	We went to many places.
	This is the place we call home nowadays because we raised our two beautiful children here.
	We would not dream of going anywhere else, even if the climate might be a bit more pleasant, even if Today, funnily enough, Vancouver Island has probably one of the best climates in Canada.
	When I read about Saskatchewan and having, you know, minus or I think Arctic weather, it's just dramatic.
	I mean, we have like 8 degrees Celsius where we live right now.
	We have some rain.
	You know, tomorrow it's going to be raining a bit.
	But we don't have the colds that most of Canada has.
	So we are fortunate in a way where we live.
	We live on an island, so it's very definitely more secretive, which also brings me to the idea as to why the secret space program and agencies, even like NASA, choose Vancouver Island for its location because it's very secretive.
	You need to have a boat or an airplane to come over here.
	You can't use a road.
	So it's a bit more difficult to access.
	Therefore, it's more understandable as to why Those agencies are using many of these buildings and locations to create some of these posts that they have.
	I know an actual building that NASA is renting to build parts for satellites and dishes and these old things that are in the middle of a small town on Vancouver Island.
	I won't say where, but this is known and you can see the The trucks, like NASA trucks, driving on the highway sometimes.
	And these trucks, those people, those agencies, are here.
	And they most likely...
	Actually, I know it's not most likely, but in Nandu's Bay, for example, there's a naval base that is mostly paid and managed by the U.S. So there are many facilities in Canada that are being controlled by the U.S. And, you know, there are also ET beings on site.
	You know, there are some Dracos, there are some Greys, there are some other multidimensional beings that are residing here.
	There are reptilian beings that are not negative, that are also living underground on Vancouver Island.
	There are some white beings.
	Many of the First Nations are referring to these Star Brothers, they call them Star Brothers, but they have stories about those beings on Baku Island.
	So all of that is being mentioned in the documentary that Johnny and Ock and I are working on, separate from the book.
	This could be like more of a phase two of the book.
	And it's certainly fascinating that the information that we are gathering and the evidence that we're bringing forward has never been seen before.
	You know, we can hear From these experiences on other channels and through the secret space program experiences and all experiences.
	None of that has any kind of evidence attached to those experiences.
	But the actual documentary that we're doing has footage that show locations that demonstrate and can interact with those abductees where on-site we saw those beings In those exact locations, without them being aware of what we're working on.
	It's just random people were saying, yes, we've been abducted or we had experiences in those exact locations, which is just at the perimeter of those secret bases.
	So it makes sense.
	Yeah, fascinating.
	Very good.
	Go ahead.
	When you live in those kind of locations, when you feel the energy, you have to embrace both bad and good energy.
	Embracing means that you just have to be aware of the bad energy in order to understand it and defend yourself from it if you have to.
	But sometimes it's just part of the duality system in the consciousness.
	We have the same duality that exists in the cosmos, even if people keep claiming that there's no such thing as bad ETs and there are just good ETs and so on, or just old bad ETs.
	When you think about that, you know that there's a duality that exists, and the people that I've been working with share the same idea.
	The perspective that we have on duality from their perspective is very different.
	Because we're looking at them as ETs or aliens that look differently.
	But from their perspective, they might be looking at us as simply food or as a delicacy.
	And how different would it be from us to eat a cow?
	We don't frown at people eating steaks or chicken.
	They may see us the same way.
	So does it mean that they are actually bad because they do that?
	You know, if you think about chickens or cows, they're also sovereign beings as much as we are.
	They might not be as smart or intelligent, but they certainly are sovereign beings too.
	So there are, you know, people eat pigs, which may have the same kind of complexity of skin and somehow being very intelligent animals, but we still eat pigs.
	So are we being hypocritical?
	I'm hypocritical about the idea of ETs being negative and positive.
	I think there's a good and bad in every one of us.
	And I think we should not ignore that if, for example, the Draco are not very good beings and are not very favorable to us and are certainly our friends, we can also learn from them.
	There are certain aspects of the Draco that they have developed technology that some of the SSP is using to their advantage.
	If the Jureka wanted to annihilate and kill humanity completely, they would have done it by now.
	But because there is some alliances out there, some ETs that are protective of us and defending us, this is not happening.
	So again, there is this duality and protection that goes on in the cosmos that we are part of.
	And I think this is something that more people should be aware of and be more sympathetic towards rather than being judgmental About how they should be treating those beings as being just completely negative and completely positive.
	Because it doesn't exist out there.
	There's always a meaning and there's always a reason as to why they want to interact with humanity.
	And so if they do, is it to their benefit?
	Definitely yes.
	Is it to our benefit?
	Somewhat yes.
	It doesn't mean that they see us as evolved beings.
	They may see us as a potential.
	For learning to do with human emotions.
	In fact, human beings are being so complex in terms of human emotions.
	We have a lot to share on that aspect with certain ET races.
	How does that work for them?
	I don't know.
	Maybe they might want to use those emotions somewhere else.
	It's not just to interact with us.
	Mostly, They learn from these emotions to becoming richer because if they evolve themselves, if they are, let's say, raising their frequency level is through learning as well, not just through experience and knowledge.
	It's also through learning from other beings like ourselves.
	If they created us and we evolved from that creation point, They are thinking, well, we can be becoming more empathic ourselves perhaps, or maybe the empathic emotion state is actually from them, and we're just learning how to become more like them.
	So I think there's a give and take in terms of human emotions.
	There are certain emotions that we have created from scratch or developed over time, and there are certain aspects of emotions that we've learned from other beings.
	So like I said, it's not just one way.
	It works both ways.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And very well said.
	So now what I want to do here is I do want to invite people to ask you questions towards the end here.
	And I think that there may be a few people putting some questions here in the chat.
	So I'm going to try to do that.
	And for some reason, just so people will understand, I know that the Skype icons are now stuck on the...
	On this video, for some reason, weird things go on, so I can't get them removed.
	Normally they just come and go, but we have your name and the icons just showing up at this certain point.
	So please understand that I'm totally aware of that and that it's just not being able to remove them.
	So you can still see Sebastian, etc.
	So now what I'd like to do is look through the questions here and I think that there will be some people that will be very interested.
	There's also a point at which the, you know, maybe just to wrap this up a tiny bit, is there's a lot of energy around the Yellowstone caldera and volcano being tied to all the volcanoes going up the West Coast as well.
	And you may have seen this in your vision as well, and that there is volcanism going on.
	And I was in Oregon, I guess it was, and this I think it was the summer and we there was fires in Oregon cropping up and then of course the California fires and we're at least I'm aware of the link up with the volcanism and underground and so I don't know whether you're tapping into that or not but that's also a very important component to what's going on here
	in Southern California In the Malibu area, which I'm kind of adjacent to, we know that there is volcanism, and it's been proven in Santa Barbara as well.
	The mountains of Santa Barbara have vents, steam vents coming up, as well as down in Palm Springs area, there's also So the ground and what's coming up through the ground is volcanism.
	Now where it's triggered and how that all works together can also be man-made or triggered.
	In other words, a certain condition exists and they can augment it or they can sort of get it to relax.
	So there's a lot of ingredients to things that can go on in the future.
	Which people could be maybe want to think about.
	So I don't know if you want to address the volcanism issue at all and your awareness of it.
	Certainly the Hawaiian volcano was, we do believe, was triggered to become much worse than it would have been and so on.
	So just thought maybe you could touch on that and then we can take some questions from the chat.
	Sure.
	Well, actually funny enough, during the volcanic eruption in Hawaii, I was there just a week prior to that.
	I couldn't feel the energy, but I could certainly see the volcano.
	I could see the lava from the vista center.
	The park rangers at the time were looking and saying, this is not normal.
	You should not be able to see it from this location.
	You have to hike almost like five, six miles to actually go and see something.
	This was very unusual, but we still walk around the volcano and went back and The energy there is pretty intense, and I was expecting more visitations and energy going around the big island of Hawaii when I was there, but I did meet Michael Sutter when I was there, though, which was interesting.
	And when I went back to Canada, I had to get more information and downloads arising from that, which was fascinating to do with the volcanic activities in general, especially You know, with the magma and the plasma, sorry, of the volcanoes that you mentioned, some events that could be triggered by HAARP, for example, and some other, you know, components.
	But some ETs can also trigger such volcanic eruptions through the crafts that they use on the ground.
	And sometimes they also use some of these volcanoes, especially like more, like deeper underground, as portals.
	Not many people know this, but there are many portals above ground and underground.
	Underneath the Earth, there are some portals that ETs can travel through and escape from.
	Somehow, if it's through a volcano, they can travel through that.
	That could generate an actual earthquake and also eruption.
	The actual volcanoes That have been erupting recently, especially like in Japan.
	There's a lot of UFO sightings around such volcanoes because the ETs are also using, some of their technologies are also using plasma as a form of fuel.
	The same way as the corona of the Sun for the same reason, because the plasma is way more intense and gathering around the Sun than the core of the Sun.
	While the Sun is itself an actual portal, too.
	So a lot of crafts could emanate and come through the Sun for the same reason.
	So once again, it's not unique to the cosmos.
	There are many places like that.
	We just end up to have many of the small openings on the planet that could be also found in space.
	It's not just a physical reality.
	It's a multidimensional reality, actually.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, very good.
	So now I'm looking to see if there's anybody, and please do, you know, put everything in all caps if you can to ask your questions.
	Someone wants to know your opinion about whether full disclosure would be dangerous to the earth and or humans in any way.
	Yes, this is the recurring question.
	As to know if full disclosures can be harmful to humanity or not.
	Like I said, it would be more harmful to the corporations that are benefiting from such reverse engineering.
	But at the same time, could it be detrimental to humanity?
	I believe so too.
	You have to realize, again, this is like the give and take.
	We have to be smart about this because if you are given all these technologies overnight on our labs, falling on our labs, We'll be most likely using it to destroy one another.
	Because we want this.
	Who is going to be benefiting from this?
	Is it going to be benefiting a certain nation?
	Or is it going to be benefiting the world?
	Again, the kind of attitude we have towards material things, we may want to use that, steal it from anybody else.
	No, no, now we have an advantage over you.
	So there's such...
	Political climate and tension in the world today that if everybody receives such technologies, what do you think would be the first thing they would do?
	Try to use it against one another.
	That's what we do.
	We try to create its power.
	We try to control.
	This is, you know, human, unfortunately, our human traits.
	So that has a very negative component to it.
	The upside from that Evolutionary change, I would say, would be from what we can learn from it and how it could change us overnight in the world.
	This is the biggest uncertainty that happens within the SSP. They don't know how we're reacting to these changes.
	There's a huge uncertainty and all they can see down the line and the biggest threat that they can see from human evolution is us to turn like the greys.
	Embracing the AI technology.
	And as we are evolving in that state, we can then decide what kind of vessel we want to take.
	If we want to look like Grace, it makes sense.
	But at the same time, If we want to completely leave the body and evolve to something much higher dimensional, then we could come back as light bodies or light beings because the physical body would no longer matter.
	In fact, in a very short period of time, our understanding of life and death will change dramatically to the extent that when we die, at one point in time, we say, well, it's just one stage of our life.
	It carries on.
	It never stops.
	And this is, again, the uncertainty that most people have.
	And that kind of knowledge, that when it arrives, when it comes to you, you feel shocked.
	Some people may turn mad because they simply don't know how to cope with this change.
	It's drastic.
	It's cataclysmic.
	You have to realize that those changes could be a highly disruptive one, and how our psyche is able to comprehend it and embrace it You also have to think on the ET side of things.
	They need to protect themselves against us right now, simply because, one, we have bacteria.
	They may also have certain bacteria that may kill us just in contact.
	Not many people realize that for those physical beings, they're not as friendly, just simply because they're not that good to us, to our biological environment.
	So they can wear suits, they can wear helmets, they can wear protective gear so they don't contaminate their environment.
	They will expect the same thing from us.
	At the same time, some of these beings will be sucking up our energy.
	How will we be able to cope with the idea that those beings, for example, may be able to feel everything that you think of?
	Because everything becomes reality.
	So in their lives, you become a nuisance because you think too much.
	You don't focus with your thoughts on what you should think about, what you should say.
	Therefore, it's highly destructive for their own psyche.
	So once we become part of, or let's say we embrace their reality and their world, there's so much to adapt to that we have no idea.
	It's so complex.
	That we think, oh well, you know, we just get the new energies and, you know, we can salvage ourselves and get rid of the pollution on the planet.
	It's not just it.
	There's so much more attached to this.
	So that's my take on what I know.
	All right.
	So someone is asking if you are experiencing a lot of chemtrail activity in your area.
	Sure.
	But again, chemtrails to me, in my reality nowadays, does not affect me as much as most people.
	Once again, if you change or you have mind over matter, you can certainly balance those negative effects.
	Everything that's out there, you talk about chemtrails, you talk about vaccines, you talk about GMO foods, you talk about any kind of chemicals that are out there that are designed to dumb you down, to sterilize you, to make you unhealthy and die much younger.
	Just over the last I've seen so many friends dying of cancer, like sudden death, like heart attacks, or you name it.
	And sometimes from my age to older ages, it doesn't matter.
	They all went around the same time.
	Would they be affected by the chemtrails or by something else?
	It's probably a bigger hole.
	Who knows?
	But I don't let anything like that affect me.
	The same way as the psychic attacks would not affect me anymore, I feel protected by embracing this reality and trying to change the energy component from this reality to not making it harmful to me.
	And I know that some people might be more subjective to, let's say, aluminum that's in the air from those chemtrails and all of these other components.
	That works exactly the same way as people who suffer from MCS. So if people are highly sensitive to chemicals and they have those multiple chemical sensitivities, they will suffer from those realities from a much broader scale than what people suffer from chemtrails.
	They will suffer from everything.
	And you can see how drastic those people are.
	A lot of these beings commit suicide over it.
	My sister, she's 25 years old and she has MCS. She has no life.
	She lives in one home and she cannot interact with anybody.
	She can go to restaurants, she can go to cinema, she can go to a public library, she cannot go to see a doctor.
	She's got type 1 diabetes that she can't control and manage very well because she can't do all the tests that are required for her to manage her diabetes.
	She's also been diagnosed with Lyme disease.
	Arising from the MCS. So all of these factors, she's been, again, suffering from all of that.
	She's been fighting those since the age of 11 years old.
	She was the cutest, the smartest, the most beautiful girl you can imagine growing up.
	She was trying to wear makeup and she was trying to be like a She was a model and trying to work in the fashion industry.
	And then, boom, she got hit by all of that.
	So it was a major change in her life.
	And she was not welcoming it overseas.
	She was not basically developing this diet, for example, that led to diabetes.
	She was 11 years old when she had it.
	When she developed MCS, she was in her prime at the age of 18 years old.
	And all of a sudden, everything changed.
	So she lost her close friends and her boyfriend and everything that she had around her.
	Even my own mom doesn't want to ignore her because she's too demanding of her daily habits, which is understandable.
	And my mother suffered from that a great deal too.
	So there are many people out there that are also Here, to show us that those realities exist.
	You might not be able to see them, but you can suffer from those consequences.
	And they are the perfect example of testimonies.
	They are basically witnesses, and they are there to testify of all these chemicals that should not be around.
	The chemtrails is one of them.
	My sister is aware of all of these things and beyond, because she suffers from them firsthand.
	I keep telling her and I keep working towards helping her changing this attitude towards this reality.
	But it's very, very difficult once you are within this reality and you become a victim of all of these products and, you know, You can't fight.
	All you have to do is fight for your life.
	And those people are surviving.
	That's what they do every day.
	They survive.
	And it's very, very challenging for everybody involved.
	Yes.
	Well, I do want to say that actually you're correct in the sense that what's happening there, though, is also that humanity, kind of if you want to think of humanity as a body, This body is being given challenges in order to survive, in order to make it better actually.
	And to awaken what we call the sleeping DNA, the things we're not using about our consciousness and our abilities, the areas in which this body is unaware of itself.
	So where does awareness come from?
	It comes from these pains and these blocks and blockages.
	And so the individuals within this human genome body Are actually, like you could call them pioneers.
	They are having to push their way through from a certain state of unhealthiness into a state of health, you know, from dis-ease to ease.
	And this challenge is not going to...
	To end humanity, and that's true of the 5G, by the way, and radiation.
	What is radiation but light?
	You know, so in the end of the day, we are light beings, and we are much more powerful than any of these things that they throw at us, okay?
	But we don't know that yet.
	And so you could think of these people are, especially the ones that do manage to make it, you know, and the other ones, yeah, I mean, a person is asking if you believe in reincarnation.
	The other ones will be able to come back and to fight the fight from whatever perspective they decide to do it next time.
	But it is an awakening and an awareness.
	And I do fully believe That when a person goes through that sort of experience like your sister, what the challenge is is to move into the higher chakras, to cleanse all the chakras, and to actually not only to kind of embrace it, but to go beyond it.
	So to transmute the energies and to make it possible For not just yourself, but because we learn through osmosis, so that if a certain portion of us are able to master...
	Like nowadays, people cure themselves from cancer all the time.
	All the time.
	And so this is very important.
	Just that knowledge, just saying that, is healthy.
	And so looking at it from that perspective, we are expanding our genome.
	We're expanding into those...
	It's like that movie, Lucy, right?
	So it's really, there's no stopping it.
	And a lot of times when a person chooses a crutch or a disease or a limitation, they're doing that so that they can push their energy in a different direction because it was going down a path that was already very familiar to the soul and the soul doesn't need to go there again.
	It's already actualized that.
	So in your sister's case, this beautiful young girl is giving herself a lot of obstacles for her spirit and her soul to experience and to break through.
	And I'm not trying to lessen the challenge there or be unsympathetic.
	I'm simply saying that this is what an organism is capable of doing.
	And we are In the end of the day, a physical organism, but we're much more than that.
	We are spirit and soul first.
	Yes, exactly.
	And my sister, while fighting this, is also trying to make people more aware of what's out there.
	So again, it's all about awareness and education and she's becoming like a spokesperson and she speaks very well.
	She does great videos on YouTube and she shares a lot of information about what she's going through.
	She's explaining what she's experiencing, that It definitely creates more awareness about that condition around the world.
	It's not just unique to France and America.
	And I know many people who are lawyers and doctors who suffer from these conditions.
	And it's pretty dramatic, but at the same time, it's making us more aware of the kind of empathy that is required to evolve arising from all the poisons that we've spread onto our planet to realize, you know, why are we doing this to ourselves?
	You know, is it really necessary?
	So while sure we can transcend all of this, I'm just saying that it's also a way to show us how dumb we are for spreading all those chemicals and those poisons onto us.
	And it's something that a few were making those decisions at the end for all of us, for the whole of humanity.
	Those corporations are also the same while also working with reverse engineering.
	How do you think that Some of the GMOs and the technologies they have for working with genes, where does it come from?
	Is it just about science or is it way deeper than that?
	I mean, we know that the GMO crops arose from knowledge and technology that they had from the Nazi camps, for example.
	The ersatz that they had in Germany, which were substitutes for real food, that's exactly what ersatz means in English.
	It's a substitute.
	And so the airs that were really created to make food cheaper.
	So it tastes like or roughly like food, but it's not food.
	And that's exactly what Monsanto and other companies have created in order to, again, empower us, to make us more sick and used to the kind of garbage that's out there and to go away from knowledge and Basically, to be sovereign beings again.
	So, I'm just saying that there are two aspects of this information.
	One, yes, they suffer from this situation, but at the same time, they can overcome it by realizing where this comes from, embracing it.
	Same as you've mentioned about the 5G and so on.
	You can be aware of that.
	You can stop it in your own home if you can.
	Most people can.
	I remove 5G from my own home because I don't need it.
	I'm okay with 2.4 GHz in my home for Wi-Fi.
	And again, people might still frown at the Wi-Fi technology in your own home as well, but so be it.
	Again, that's for me to deal with and to learn from that.
	Again, I could transcend all of that, but if I decide to become sick from all of this, Then I would have allowed this to overpower me and to weaken me instead of trying to understand it and grow from that experience, learn from it, and overcome it.
	So this is the kind of situation I'm in right now.
	I'm thankful enough that I didn't have to battle cancer or go through these major health issues or traumas that may still happen down the line.
	Who knows?
	I'm still young.
	But I certainly have seen the challenges that other people in my close circles had to face.
	And when that happens to you, you don't think twice about, you know, what should I do next?
	They are becoming survivors.
	They are in a survival mode and they are trying to cope with short-term expectations, you know, if they would feel better the next day.
	But the preparedness and, to me, the wealth That we can learn from that is we can prepare ourselves so it's the prevention that is more important.
	Now when we have time to prepare for this change in awareness and basically rising our consciousness level, we can see, for example, oh, those chemtrails exist.
	Okay, well, what are we doing about it?
	What can we do about it?
	One, definitely talk about it, making people aware that those things exist.
	What kind of damage should they do to us?
	Document, learn about those things.
	And second, trying to go beyond it.
	Trying to say, if that doesn't disappear overnight, we'll be able to transcend that and my energy cannot accept to be affected by those chemicals.
	That's just like one aspect.
	And that takes time.
	It doesn't happen overnight.
	But it's possible.
	Same way as people overcome cancer when they're facing it.
	You know, some people are preparing themselves ahead of time.
	They can meditate.
	They know how to raise their kundalini energy and all of that before something drastic happens to them.
	So I think, believe, that this is part of the evolutionary process that we need to be aware of.
	It's not about the response to what's already out there and that we are thinking too late.
	Oh, look, and now we're just Condemning the actions of such and so, people trying to sell those chemtrails in the sky.
	I think we just have to be more aware of them, that they do exist.
	We can't be angry at the fumes in the sky.
	We can be angry at the people or the companies that are spreading them.
	But the side effects of those reactions or those clouds coming down on you, it's on the cloud's foot.
	So how do you respond and how do you react to this?
	It's not about being angry at the man who is leading the battle against humanity.
	It's about how you respond to that and how you can show them that this is useless.
	It's not working.
	In fact, you know, there were many attempts on humanity one way or the other to one sterilize humanity through vaccines.
	It's still happening right now.
	Bill Gates is trying to send people off to Africa and he does major campaigns to sterilize Africa.
	And he's not shy to talk about this and to say it.
	And that's okay.
	This is the part of the bigger plans because they are afraid that the Earth cannot accommodate billions of people, more than seven billions, but becomes too dangerous when we only represent like a small fraction of life on this planet.
	You know, if you just put all humanity into one spot, we don't take much space.
	So at the end of the day, how we can spread out the The humans, you know, why people like Elon Musk are trying to send you off off planets to live on Mars, on colonies, because they know that down the line this might be a response to save humanity instead of trying to kill it on Earth through various means and sterilize it to downside the population and once again to better control it.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	Now, we've been going for just about two hours, so I'm going to have to close this down here, and I know a lot of people have more questions.
	I do want to say that we have talked in the past about your point of view.
	Someone's asking about your point of view of AI, and I do want to say that we did talk about that in a prior interview to some degree, and I think, you know, if you want to add some Maybe quick statements about that.
	You're welcome to, Sebastian.
	But I think what we need is closing statements at this point because most people will not watch a video longer than two hours.
	Even then, we're taxing their attention span.
	So if you don't mind, go ahead.
	I think in terms of AI, I do talk a bit about AI in my book, and I will definitely talk more about AI in my second book.
	Based on my own experiences about AI and how I know it could be quite damaging to us.
	So some people may embrace it.
	I think we may be leading towards that and artificial intelligence.
	So artificial intelligence and robotization Everything.
	The reason why we can fight AI is by embracing it.
	That's exactly what Elon Musk is also trying to do.
	He's got another company that's trying to implement AI within the brain stems so you can have Something to look forward to down the line when the robots are trying to empower humanity.
	So I think once again, I think it's a doom and gloom scenario.
	I don't think it's going to be heading that way.
	But we'll have to evolve as much as technology evolves once we realize that we are more than just physical vessels.
	That we are capable to spread our consciousness in various other types of vessels, more than physical vessels, which is the reason why I think the grey component that I mentioned and talked about before is pretty much one of the aspects that we could take.
	We could embrace that to become such as grey so we don't need to eat as much food as we are today because we will understand that our consciousness is We can create a whole new different reality for ourselves down the line.
	I don't believe this is the way to go or a benefit to us, short-term or long-term even.
	For some it might be, but it doesn't change the fact that some of these beings are in existence today from our direct future and they've been coming back to us to show us that they are coming from our future.
	And they share stories and cataclysmic events to children to show them this is what could happen with a big bomb blowing up.
	That's again trying to scare you from the kind of roles we could take on this planet.
	So I don't think that this is true.
	I think the atomic bomb will never explode on the planet again.
	I think there are enough precautions with ETs to prevent such disasters, even if I was told by some people in the SSP and intelligence agencies that that may be a possibility for some.
	But I told them that that's not the way I'm seeing it, and I told them that I don't believe that's going to happen.
	And there are other options.
	And they agreed with me at the end, but I had to fight back on that.
	So anyway, I would like to thank you very much for your time as well.
	Anybody who wants to buy Inner Journey in Outer Space, they can go on Amazon to buy it.
	And place your comments on Amazon if you buy it.
	And if you'd like to communicate with me, you can also go on nsuho.com, which is a website I've created to display some videos about the consciousness movement.
	And I will be able to answer you back from that.
	Or you can also reach me on Facebook with my name, Sebastian Martin.
	There are many Sebastian Martin out there, but I'm sure you can find me somewhere, and I will be able to answer you back on Messenger.
	Okay, very good.
	Thank you so much, Sebastian.
	It's been wonderful talking with you, and I'm sure everyone enjoyed it very much, judging from the talk in the chat here.
	So I want to thank you so much for coming on the show, and everyone have a great day, and we'll let you go at this time.
	All right.
	Thank you very much, Terry, for having me again.
	I'm looking forward to more chats down the line.
	Thank you.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay.
	So that is very good, and that was fascinating, talking with Sebastian, as always.
	Actually, sort of see if I can close that off.
	Anyway, I'm not sure what's going on.
	So thank you everyone for watching and I'll be back tomorrow with Nancy Hopkins.
	She is a former Army intelligence officer who specializes in electronic warfare and Wi-Fi, etc.
	And she is going to be talking about the value of shungite, how it has helped the resurgence of the bee communities and also how it can safeguard you against the effects of 5G and so this is a very important mission that she is on and it'll be fascinating to talk to her tomorrow so that's at one o'clock uh 1 p.m pacific time tomorrow so thanks for watching and please do watch the
	other Project Camelot videos I have wonderful guests all the time and so There's years and years and years worth of work on my channel, well over 700 video interviews and about five years of audio with radio shows.
	So thank you again for watching and listening and take care.

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