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June 12, 2018 - Project Camelot

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STEVEN D. KELLEY - ALIEN BASE UNDER GETTY - corrected version

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	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight.
	I have a very good old friend, haven't heard or seen from him in a long time, and he spoke at one of my conferences.
	He's a wonderful researcher and investigator and going to bring him on the screen here now, Stephen Kelly.
	Stephen, say hello to everyone.
	Hi Kerry, I had the other I think I was hearing all this feedback, but happy to be here.
	How are you tonight?
	I'm great.
	I'm great.
	And it's great to see you after all these years.
	I can't believe time is like flies.
	And I was going through my library and I realized that somehow my audio interviews with you seemed to have disappeared.
	And we did get hacked.
	We don't know what happened.
	Some of the radio shows, they disappeared.
	So I thought I'd bring you back on and we just...
	It may seem like we're going over old business, but it's still current, so it's all good.
	Yeah, well, you know, I think it's been, it was November 2012 when, you know, the whole just 2012, 2012, 2012, whatever 2012 happened is when I really came out with this, and I think that's when you became aware of all that.
	So, yeah, it's been at least a good one-odd six years now.
	We've been doing all this stuff.
	Right.
	Actually, I think it was before that we were in touch, but it's been a while.
	I'm trying to remember which conference you spoke at, and I don't think it was my last one, which was 2013.
	So it must have been 2011.
	So it had to be pre-2012, actually.
	Well, I did the Glendale one when we had the...
	Time travel conference, I think is what the focus was.
	Oh, so you were there.
	Okay, so you spoke at that one.
	That was 2013.
	It was the Alchemy event that I came out in Irvine in 2012, and I'm pretty sure you were involved with that also, David Farman.
	Oh, right.
	I probably was.
	Yeah, I spoke at a number of his conferences.
	So anyway, you are what you call yourself is an ex-contractor for the NSA and the CIA. Can you explain that in a little more detail for people?
	All right, real quick.
	That means I'm not a CIA agent, NSA agent.
	I never worked for Langley or any of these places like that.
	What I did do is I I was a contractor I worked and built and was sort of like an employee for these cowboy agencies that they set up on the side out there.
	And, of course, the CIA, when they do operations, half the time, everybody is disposable.
	The whole operation is disposable.
	So I was one of those disposable people.
	And then, of course, I got involved with the Ali North people.
	And back in those days, we didn't even know what the NSA was, and I didn't know I was working for Ollie North, but I did know I was involved with the Contra business and providing weapons to the Sandinistas, so I guess that should have been enough proof.
	And then, of course, after dealing with them, I worked with the CIA again, but I did get involved with the Billy Meyer people and all that, his business with the Pleiadians and the UFOs, and then That led to even all kinds of more crazy stuff with the secret agencies and eventually got hooked up to Templars,
	Bilderbergers, and the people under the Getty that I call the Caver, which don't really have anything to do with government per se, but I guess they're closer to the Cabal, the New World Order, those people.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so what were you doing for the CIA or the NSA? Weren't you dealing with lasers initially?
	Okay, well, initially what we were doing was we were helping facilitate the purchase of equipment for Saddam Hussein back when he was fighting against the Iranians.
	And this was like Motorola Radio's And things like that, but eventually it got into more sophisticated hardware like phased array radar, and that's when everything fell apart because the FBI got involved.
	But the business with the NSA was actually building lasers.
	I was an electro-optical engineer, and we were recruited to build 40,000 laser modules that were going to go into Gun sights and pointers and weapon systems.
	And that doesn't seem like a lot, but this was before any of the solid-state technology existed.
	So yeah, there was for a small period of time where I was the largest manufacturer of solid-state lasers in the world for a little while, a very short period of time.
	But yeah, now you can buy these things for $8 from China.
	And then, of course, Desert Storm came along and When we went into Kuwait and all that, and obviously a lot of my equipment was used in that.
	And of course, SK Industries was started up right after the NSA business, and that's when I really got heavy into the weapon site industry.
	And of course, I dealt with all the various different agencies as a supplier.
	That was a little different situation.
	Of course, they were my customers at this point, and pretty much anybody that was the so-called good guys, the Western nations, NATO, those kind of types of people.
	I supplied all of their tactical gear, a lot of the tactical gear.
	And what else?
	Oh, and then, of course, we got involved with the...
	I was still involved with the CIA again, but this was for another project involving a big, giant flashlight we call the plasma beam.
	Uh...
	And then eventually, of course, at least three times I had people coming along who I don't really know who the hell they were.
	Actually, two of them turned out to be reptoid, but they were trying to get me out to Area 51, and they get you underground in one of these laboratories, and I don't know if you ever come out, but that never happened, obviously.
	Well, what do you mean they were reptoids and they tried to get you involved in Area 51?
	Are you saying they brought you there?
	How did they try to get you involved?
	Can you be a little more specific?
	Well, first of all, if you read my book, which is available if you send me an email at lost17gun at AOL.com.
	There's a guy in there.
	There's a couple guys.
	Do you have another more recent book?
	The more recent book is Cities Under the Plane, but that's available on Kindle.
	You have to pay money for that $6.99, I think it is.
	Because I read your book way back when.
	Right, right.
	It's the same one.
	It's essentially the same book, but the new version is just a second revision.
	It has a little more editing involved.
	All right.
	The one that I give out for free, the first revision, the one you read years ago, there's actually, it's still a really good book.
	It's just probably got some misspellings and what have you in there.
	But the thing is, is that A couple of people that I talk about in that book, one of them, a guy whose name was Vince.
	And Vince was like a handler.
	And he died.
	They actually, he was a caver.
	He was like a caver handler.
	He was the one that first came up with the word caver.
	And he was one of them.
	He was like a guy that worked underground and all that.
	But he came to me when I was working with the CIA doing the big flashlight project.
	And he acted like he was like a marketing guy.
	He wanted to come and help me market this project, but he was a handler.
	It became very easily...
	Well, actually, from day one, I knew something weird about him because he didn't speak the good of English.
	His English was...
	He used words to...
	The wrong words at the wrong time too often and just...
	One of the big clues when you meet these guys that aren't really human or haven't been human for very long is that they'll do things like they haven't been doing it for very long.
	The language, of course, is one of the clues.
	They screw up the language really bad.
	Or they'll get really excited about the skin.
	Being in the skin is something new.
	It's a new experience so that they're all running around, oh, wow, this is such a great experience.
	I really like this skin.
	Do that again.
	That kind of a thing.
	That's usually a giveaway.
	But this particular guy, Vince, I hate to go on segues.
	Anyway, they killed him.
	I think they killed him because he told me too much.
	He's the one that came up with the caver stuff, and he talked about the undergrounds and things.
	And they killed him in New York, gave him a heart attack.
	But I found out later on through a medium that he was indeed actually a reptile, which doesn't surprise me.
	The other big reptile in my life was a guy named Tom Hansen, who looked very human, but he had...
	You've got to read the book to get the whole story.
	But he was the one that was really working, trying to get me out to Area 51.
	And the connection with all that that we talk about briefly is Silver.
	Because I was a big...
	I did a lot of research into silver deposition and micro photolithography and turns out that this is the technology that they use for constructing these beam ships because silver has a super high resolution building property that means that you can build a large scale craft kind of like the same way you would build a semiconductor only huge and this is how these beam ships are assembled and so they were looking for somebody to help them understand the assembly De
	-engineer the devices or the samples that they had their hands on and help them learn how to build these things.
	And that's how this all started.
	Ever since Billy Meyer, they've been listening to me.
	But one day I was in my shop talking to one of my employees and I was discussing with him some of my theories for building beam ships, which were basically involving super large-scale beams.
	Micro photolithography, combining a wet process with lasers, which is something that they don't do.
	But I was developing these theories.
	And next thing I know, I got this guy, Tom Hansen, coming into my life, offering me tons and tons of money.
	Seriously, tons of money.
	And anyway, it turned out that he was a...
	I don't know what the hell you call him.
	He wasn't a real person.
	Everything about him was fake.
	But he talked a good talk and he showed up in weird places like the IRS office in San Francisco, things like that.
	He had clearance that doesn't make any sense for a normal person.
	So that was pretty clear to me that he really was some sort of CIA or something or other.
	But he never came out and said that.
	But the first day I met him, he said something about silver.
	He didn't even use the word silver.
	He used non-ferrous metal.
	But I knew he was talking about silver.
	But anyway, When I finally had a breakup with a guy was when he had been stringing me along for money.
	He was supposed to be giving me a ton of money, and he had been kind of dragging it out.
	And I was on the phone with him, and I mentioned...
	Then he comes up and starts talking about...
	I think it was EG&G and Raytheon.
	He wanted me to meet a couple of people from his company, and right away I knew what this was.
	It was...
	He was getting ready to introduce me to these major contractors over there at Area 51, because it's been leading up to this stuff.
	So right there, I said, well, this non-ferrous metal, you're talking about silver, isn't it?
	And so he knew he was busted, because he said, yeah, yeah.
	And I said, you've been listening to me.
	You know more about me than I've told you.
	Anyway, needless to say, he disappeared.
	He completely flew the coop and disappeared, that guy.
	And so he was busted, but the thing is that it verified for me is that the silver is a very key thing.
	I actually started doing some research later on, right before they shut down my shop, where I had put the feelers out there, and I connected to the University of Colorado in Fort Collins, and they actually gave me a contract to start producing some components for them,
	and it turned out that these components were being used for studying beam ship Propulsion technology, namely using silver as a lasing medium for creating an ultraviolet light.
	And if you're going to go at the speed of light, you have to be pushing an object with light.
	So basically what it does by using this technology that they were developing, which is really fascinating because it's very similar and reminiscent of the Ark of the Covenant, is that it...
	It oxidizes or converts the matter of the silver on an atomic scale into ultraviolet light, and it does so coherently, meaning that the light coming off of the silver is perfectly perpendicular and laser-like.
	So, in other words, if you have a beam ship and you decide to expose the bottom of your beam ship to a certain plasma, The bottom of your beam ship will start acting as a massive laser and will push you up to the speed of light really quick.
	And that's how they do that.
	But that's one of the things I discovered.
	That's fun, don't you think, Carrie?
	I thought you'd enjoy that.
	Okay, so it all sort of centered around these metals and some of your theories.
	This is how they focused on you.
	But also, obviously, your laser technology and so on and so forth.
	At what point did you kind of sort of go down the rabbit hole?
	And wasn't it your brother?
	Yeah, the brother was definitely involved, but But when you talk about going down the rabbit hole, you know, you talk about the Getty.
	Let's just say that the big wake-up, which is everybody they think about the wake-up, the wake-up moment was sitting across the desk from the NSA guy when they started telling me about slaughtering a village of people in Honduras in the middle of the jungle.
	And that's when I kind of snapped and realized that I was working for people who weren't that nice and were capable of Killing everything in a village.
	And I was really naive at that time because I thought we were one nation under God and we didn't do those things and it was the bad guys that did those things.
	And I thought, you know, my God, the children and people in the village, obviously they didn't deserve to have that happen, especially their animals and everything.
	That's when I really snapped was when he told me about killing all the animals.
	Seriously, that's when I woke up and I knew everything was screwed and everything was wrong and I had to go back and completely start over everything.
	But my brother, as I went through the processes of learning all these things and getting hooked up to Billy Meyer and all this stuff, I would brief my brother on everything.
	And what happened is that he has a friend named Don who worked with another guy named Jim.
	And Jim was a gifted accountant, CPA, but he also, his father, was a high-ranking, high-level mason.
	And they killed the father.
	And then when they killed the father, they came to Jim and they basically handed him the keys to the kingdom, which involved a box of Cuban cigars, a big expensive house, a the job of trust fund manager for the Getty Museum and a whole bunch of other perks but uh these things you know you got to understand it's like there's there is magic involved
	okay they don't just pick people for no reason and and when you talk about the lasers and stuff yeah when I was messing around with these people I thought well Are they spies?
	Is it because of my laser work?
	What's it for?
	And it's always something else.
	It's always more than you think it is.
	And with these guys, everything is about bloodline.
	Everything is destiny because you've got to remember you're talking about people that have looking glass technology and they know what you're going to do before you do it.
	These people knew that I was going to invent a three beam laser before I was even in the business.
	And they sat and waited for it.
	And when the day came that I finally actually invented it and designed it, was sitting there at the drafting table drawing it, they were standing behind me over my shoulder watching me do it.
	And I knew it, you know, because you get, you know, you can start to, you get good and you learn those things.
	But this is the other thing is that it's all about this psychic skill.
	All right, as you know this.
	Sure.
	Didn't you become a remote viewer?
	Well, you know, we're all remote viewers.
	We're all skilled.
	We are, absolutely.
	But didn't you study that?
	I didn't really study.
	I just had to do it.
	This is how it works.
	If you want to do it, you have to ask to be able to do it.
	Whatever tool it is that you need to do the mission that you're doing, you have to ask for the permission.
	First thing you do is ask for permission to do the mission, to be part of the mission.
	And then you say, thank you.
	And then you say, please give me everything I need to complete the mission, including the protection and the tools and the skills and whatever.
	And so if remote viewing, it's really not that hard to do.
	Sure, it's a natural human ability, but it does take some diligence and focus in order to really kind of progress with it, in my view.
	And I have done remote viewing myself.
	Some of it happens spontaneously, but it doesn't always happen spontaneously.
	So this is where the skill and the training comes in.
	And Okay, so in your case, you believe kind of selected and you're sort of alluding to the whole bloodline situation.
	And what I'm getting from that is that you think that you were selected in part because of your bloodline and your brother as well.
	Is that correct?
	You know, they do their best to narrow...
	The bloodline is kind of a generalization because there's different sorts of...
	There's gene memory, cellular memory, and then there's also reincarnation.
	So you can have different variations of this stuff.
	But the thing about my brother is for quite some time, at least during this recruitment process when we were briefing Jim, I mean, somewhere into the process where we were briefing Jim, they realized that Jim was getting briefed.
	And it was when...
	We had the remote viewer, the first remote viewer, go down there into the Getty and see what was down there.
	They knew that happened because these guys have, like, one of the first levels that you run into when you go down there is kind of like a Hogwarts, if you will.
	It's like a university for people, super soldiers, okay?
	It's a super soldier university, sort of, magician, black arts, the whole nine yards, all that stuff.
	And their job is to go do all these...
	Magical things, but at the same time, they're also acting as security.
	They're supposed to prevent people like me or whoever from going down there and causing trouble.
	Now, they're not always able to do anything.
	They're certainly able to see you, but they alerted.
	Okay, so in other words, when we first made that first excursion down there, almost immediately, alarm bells went off, and they all knew that this happened, and we were confronted.
	This is when things got really serious.
	And that first time, that first day, the next day after the first view down there happened, we thought for sure they were going to kill us after that.
	And they didn't really know about me at this point, but I was still pretty scared.
	And what happened, instead of trying to kill us, this is when they actually tried to recruit us.
	By this time, obviously, they realized that Jim was dealing with some people on the outside that were trouble.
	And they confronted him and they said, you stop dealing with those people right now.
	And he said, no, no.
	You want me on your team?
	This is my team.
	These people are my people.
	And if you want me, my people come with me.
	That was the way he approached it.
	So they said, fine.
	So then they went and went into a recruitment process.
	So the first thing they tried to do, again, they thought my brother was me because they were trying to figure out who it was that was supplying with all this information.
	And they ran all sorts of tests on him, psychic testing and sort of thing.
	And my brother, of course, is psychic.
	He's not quite as developed as I am, but there was enough there for them to think they had something going on.
	And the first thing they do is they offer a military rank.
	They give you a rank of, say, like a major or something like that, Air Force major.
	They give that a rank.
	They do that so that they've got you contractually.
	You can't, you know, divulge secrets.
	They can throw you in Leavenworth or something after that.
	But it was some time after that they found out that it was actually me.
	We were having dinner, and this is when the trust fund manager guy at the Getty realized that it was actually I was the one they were looking for, and they told my brother that he was a pale shadow of me, which is something he'll never forgive me for.
	Anyway, this is the thing.
	It's like a Neo thing.
	That very same night, he also told me that I would be the one to destroy them and that this would be through an assault on the Getty.
	And when this was actually, he told me that I was also in a very militaristic mood.
	I was in the gun business.
	I was in advanced weapon development and training.
	And I actually was, I'm not going to say I had a militia, but let's just say I had a lot of young guys underneath me who were of that nature.
	And anyway, needless to say, we were actually had planned on doing a I don't want to call it super soldier assault, but light warrior type of assault, and we were actually developing special weapons and things like that.
	But it was sometime around that period that I realized that, well, they recruited me.
	That's when they tried to recruit me.
	And I said, all right.
	Then they come up with this whole, well, the Earth is under attack by aliens and yada yada, and we are not Republicans or Democrats, Jews or Nazis.
	We've got to work together and save the Earth from the aliens.
	I said, okay, fine.
	I'll help you save the Earth from the aliens.
	But Under one condition, and that was no more shooting down airplanes because they had just got through shooting down Flight 800, which just pissed me off because they're using Star Wars technology to do it.
	Not defending aliens, but shooting down airplanes.
	So it was during this process that I realized that laser technology and plasma beam technology and all this sort of thing wasn't going to do it.
	That we had to develop our psychic skills because I realized that the spiritual skill was the only weapon we had that had any power over these entities.
	And then that's when I realized that I had to completely devote all my energy into this psychic development and stop messing around with all the You know, weapons and lasers and technology.
	So that's why I don't even mess with that stuff anymore.
	It's all about this.
	Then I went headfirst into all the metaphysical, New Age, everything, everything.
	And learned all the tarot cards and pendulums and, you know, started learning all that stuff.
	And then they go and they shoot down Flight 990, Egyptian Air, on Halloween night.
	I knew damn well they were going to do it.
	They did it on Halloween, you know.
	I mean, you know, as soon as the clock ticked 1201, they shot that damn jet down, and that was it.
	I wasn't going to have anything to do with them after that.
	And I left them.
	I went my own way.
	But as you know, now I've realized that I've given up this whole elitist underground Masonic we're gods on earth thing to try to save the people on the surface because Obviously, we don't deserve to be treated like expendable cattle, like that's what they think of us.
	So I've given all up for everybody else, but now we're actually winning because, as I've said so many times, if we actually can occupy the Gettys, we actually can open that Pandora's box, I don't even have to tell you what's down there because once that box gets opened, we will have paradise on Earth.
	We'll have free energy.
	No pollution.
	Green food.
	No more chemtrails, vaccines.
	You name it.
	Talk about scalar.
	Yeah, we'll have all the scalar.
	And not only that, there's so much wealth down there.
	By God, they've got all the money in the world down there, which is interesting because if you look at the title of the new Getty movie that just came out, what did they call it?
	All the money in the world.
	Where did they get that catchy phrase?
	From me.
	You know, so yeah, so this is the thing.
	They're obviously spending a lot of money to try to circumvent this message.
	And certainly they spent $100 million to make that movie to try to make people think of this silly movie instead of what we're talking about.
	And then now we've got guys like Craig Sawyer and these idiots out in Tucson trying to make everybody think that human trafficking is something that happens walking across the sand in the desert.
	It doesn't have anything to do with the Clinton Foundation or Frank Gustra or big shipping containers or underground tunnels.
	You know, good old Craig Sawyer, he says that children under the Getty and a city under the Getty is lunacy.
	And at the same time, his little group, Veterans for Saving Children or whatever it is, they claim that they'll go anywhere to save children, but they won't go to the Getty.
	They won't do it there.
	Right.
	And just to ram home the point here, the Getty was something like, I don't know, seven, nine billion dollars it took to build that thing.
	It's the most expensive piece of real estate in LA County.
	And that's just the money they're willing to report.
	Obviously, there's probably billions of dollars that went into that thing that they're not even talking about.
	But just to put it into perspective, for everyone that thinks it's so hard to understand that there's a city underneath this thing, not just a bunker, but a city, it's so much easier for people to think, well, you know, the Denver Airport.
	Well, okay, I can see that.
	There could be a big, giant thing under the Denver Airport.
	Sure.
	Well, for those of you that aren't aware, there's a new airport being built in the outskirts of Mexico City in a big area of Where there's a lot of water and what have you, and they're spending 36, 39 billion to build this airport.
	It's going to be the third largest airport in the world.
	It's being built by Carlos Slim, the same guy that owns all the concrete production in the United States.
	And you know damn well that any bumpers built in the United States use the concrete coming from Carlos Slim.
	There's also really good buddies with Bill Clinton, Frank Kustra, And all these fun people that run around the world stealing all the gold from everybody.
	Well, that's very interesting.
	So chances are that they are going into business with these people, that it's a United States joint operation with possibly, I guess, the Mexicans, maybe some other groups down in South America, but the cartels, etc.
	But it sounds like...
	You know, China is also active in Mexico, so I'm wondering what the deal is there.
	Well, first of all, when you talk about Mexico, you've got to talk about Carlos Salinas de Gutiérrez, who is one of the former presidents, and he also pretty much is the real godfather of the entire country down there.
	So even though Carlos Slim is considered the richest man in the world, or was at one time, he's just a bag man for Carlos Salinas.
	And when you talk about cartels, drug cartels, and all of this sort of thing, These are all tiny foot soldiers for Carlos Salinas.
	Carlos Salinas runs every single drug cartel, and even if you look at even Carlos Slim, it used to be, if you looked at him on Wikipedia or something, it would say right there, drug lord, drug dealer.
	So, you know, now NAFTA, when they put NAFTA into effect, It basically allowed Salinas to loot the country for billions and billions of dollars and hand it over to Carlos Slim, which is where he got all his money.
	And over there in Mexico, they have monopolies, of course.
	There's huge monopolies.
	And we don't allow monopolies here in the United States, but they do down there.
	And when you talk about the international aspects of this, you've got to remember that NAFTA pretty much applies to It goes down to the bottom of Mexico all the way up to Canada.
	But in reality, the looting, it goes all over.
	In fact, all NAFTA really did was allowed the wealthy people in Canada and the United States to completely loot Mexico.
	And now, of course, they're looting South America and countries like Venezuela and what have you to try to stand up to it are denigrated and destroyed.
	Obviously, Bolivia is doing a pretty good job of standing up to this looting process.
	But all you got to do is follow around this Frank Gustra guy.
	And you can see that he's buying up all the gold, all the precious metals, everything there is.
	And Mexico should be a wealthy country.
	It really should be.
	But there's always been some country, France, Germany, whatever, that's gone in there and has looted it.
	And we're looting it right now.
	Not too cool.
	Okay, so...
	Come back to the microphone.
	What about the...
	Sorry, my dog's being really bad.
	So the...
	What about the maglev train underneath the Getty?
	Did you guys ever encounter that when you were down there?
	Yeah, you're going to see that.
	Okay, let me just say this.
	There's...
	Just about everybody that's gone down there says the same thing.
	And it's not because they're all reading each other's notes, but if anything, what I've noticed, every time a remote viewer goes down there, they always come back with a few more details.
	But the maglev trains and all that are down by the living quarters, which is pretty far down there.
	And I'm just going to say that Because I know you titled this thing alien base.
	It's not an alien base.
	It's definitely a human-made base.
	However, when you consider...
	All right, there's this...
	Well, you know, I actually beg to differ.
	It is an alien base, but it may be a joint base with humans.
	All right, this is what's important, is that there's a satanic aspect to all of this stuff.
	Right.
	This is where people get confused because I did an interview earlier today and they said, well, what's the deal with the aliens and the demons?
	All right, here's the connection.
	Loosh.
	Negative human emotional psychic energy.
	Right.
	All right, this is what it's all about.
	When the people, they talk about, you know, they're collecting these babies and they're stealing these humans and all this so that they can collect adrenochrome and torture them and drink their blood and everything else.
	Well, yeah, yeah, they do all that, but there is something else that they collect which is not of this level, the third level that we're on.
	It's actually of a higher level, and it is the product That is being collected from us by the higher level entities, these aliens, if you will, and they require that as nutrition.
	And they use the AI, which people like to recall the black goo, is a device actually which is used for transitioning this third dimensional or this product, this fourth density product from a living 3D person into this realm of the 4D where it is stored and collected.
	This is the sort of thing people are having a hard time understanding.
	Obviously, most people are not quite there.
	They're starting to understand.
	They're understanding things like adrenochrome, but they're certainly far from understanding luche.
	Now, the thing about the luche is that it is a food for the so-called service-to-self dark entity aliens, the gray, the reptile, these guys.
	But it is also...
	Something that is associated with what we would call demons.
	And this goes back to Lilith, which is essentially what we would refer to as the mother of demons, who was, according to history, is Adam's first wife.
	Now, believe it or not, people think they attribute all sorts of activity on Earth to Lucifer.
	Well, it's not really Lucifer, per se.
	It's actually Lilith.
	So when you talk about these underground bases, this is the thing that I really want to get to, is that the Getty, when we go down under the Getty, there's a point where we stop, okay?
	Then we don't go any farther.
	And then, and maybe the day will come when we can go farther, but we're not, I don't know anybody that's gone past this point yet.
	And this is a really awful point.
	This is the point where They're doing the really nasty shit.
	So I don't know what the hell's down there, but when you talk about aliens, yes, that's probably where they are.
	They're probably down there below that level.
	But we don't really...
	The humans, you're dealing with humans, okay?
	When you're dealing with the humans, they're like a bunch of zombies.
	They know what they're involved in.
	They've sold their souls, whatever it is that they've done to be this elite whatever down there.
	And there's a hell of a lot of evil.
	And the evil permeates everything.
	And when you get down to the area where they're actually doing the shit with the kids, it gets really bad.
	And I have not gone past that point.
	All right.
	Well, that's fair enough.
	But you can look at it on a psychic level and know certain entities are associated with it and also non-humans.
	And there's a signature that goes along with it.
	And I'm sure you're familiar with that kind of stuff.
	Anyway, I made a graphic for this.
	It came together very quickly and very easily.
	It's all good.
	I appreciate it.
	I'm happy to message you out.
	All right.
	Well, whatever.
	So, you know, this place, the base under the Getty, in essence, and you're calling it a city, fair enough, it would be not just under the Getty.
	It would be under all of L.A., really, and going north.
	And there's a lot of connection to China Lake and that area, the whole aerospace community.
	And then it goes, you know, it goes a lot of places.
	It goes to Lake Tahoe.
	I mean, we're talking, you know, there's so many connections.
	Then it also goes southeast.
	There's some underground tunnels and all of that going into southern, further south, southern California.
	And then over to, of course, it goes to Nevada and the Luxor and Sandia.
	And, you know, actually, I did an interview.
	I don't know if you saw my recent interview where I went in person after all those years and I went back in person to interview John Lear again.
	And he was showing us literally a map Of how the basses and the maglevs link up, and it's quite a good demonstration.
	He did a really good job.
	So if you want to see that, then I encourage you to watch my interview with John Lear.
	It's maybe a year old at this point.
	Anyway, so...
	There's one other thing, though.
	They've got the maglev trains and all that, and it's sort of like there's a lot of vacuum and stuff, the technology, but they've also got...
	Conventional highways with semis driving back and forth, and they've also got a lot of underwater stuff.
	One of the biggest secrets of all that they're trying to hide with this stuff is the underground water down there.
	There's massive, massive rivers and caverns.
	It's just like the Grand Canyon down there, only underground with lots and lots of water.
	And gold.
	And this is one of the things they really are trying to keep secret from everybody.
	Okay, and submarines go in there?
	Submarines go in there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, in terms of, you do a lot of this by remote viewing, if you want to call it that, but as far as going there in person, did you go there exactly once, or did you go there more than once?
	Well, when you say go there, are you talking about going underground or just visiting the ark?
	I mean, going underground, you know, you guys, didn't you sneak in underground one time?
	Am I mistaken?
	No, no, no.
	That was a tour.
	That was actually a tour.
	That was my brother went on a tour with Jim.
	You know, Jim was, of course, the trust fund manager, so they got to go in all the places that you're not supposed to go.
	Oh, all right.
	So that was a one-time deal.
	Yeah.
	Well, you see, that's the thing.
	After...
	After my brother saw the door, he kind of freaked out a little bit and said, what the hell is that?
	And they ended the tour.
	Because he goes, that's a nuclear blast door.
	No, it's not.
	No, it's not.
	Let's go.
	Tour's over.
	But the other thing about the tour, of course, that is bizarre is the weapon, the weapon room.
	They have an arsenal there.
	It's sort of like the White House in Congress.
	All these places like that, they've always got a room somewhere that's filled up with machine guns so if anything ever happens, people can run there and grab their guns and stuff.
	They do this at the museum, too.
	It's kind of weird.
	Obviously, you think, wow, do they really need all these machine guns to defend the art?
	That's a big clue that there's something different going on there.
	Yeah.
	Well, all right.
	So at this time in your life, you know, you got into this several years ago.
	What's your approach now?
	I mean, I think you sent me a link to a petition.
	What is your petition about and why are you doing a petition and what do you think is going to happen about that?
	Well, information is the number one weapon that we have.
	And it's the number one weapon of our enemy, also, is controlling the dialogue and getting the information out there.
	And we're basically trying to achieve a hundred monkey's effect.
	The more people that become aware of this and have these words on their lips, the sooner it becomes reality and the sooner we're able to do something about it.
	And so it's an education thing.
	And obviously, I have a V for Vendetta type of picture in my head where everybody actually does converge on this location and peacefully demand that they give up because that's really what we need to do.
	And you see, this is the thing is that they've been planning for this for hundreds of years.
	This is obviously this what we're dealing with is a I don't want to use the words conspiracy, but the people that we're dealing with here have been working on this for thousands of years.
	And the planning and the building of the undergrounds are also equally, equally ancient.
	And they've been planning for for since day one that when the day comes that we rise up and confront them, that they will destroy everything and try to destroy the bunker, the bunker, but destroy the entrance.
	and take us out with them.
	So there's a, this is the thing, and this is, I'm going to get into real life drama right now.
	The, Donald Trump is meeting in Indonesia with Kim, and obviously they want to end the nuclear war.
	But what's really going on behind the scenes is that the CIA was using Kim Jong-un and North Korea as an excuse or a scapegoat for when the time came to blow up the Getty.
	They were going to blame it on North Korea and a North Korean submarine.
	So Donald Trump is basically removing that.
	And what else is happening right now is that not only is he making peace with North Korea so that they can't use that excuse as a, you know, precipitation of some sort of event, but at the same time, I'm getting through channels coming down from the White House, actually, that they're actually talking about the Getty right now, and they're talking about the nuclear trapdoor at the Getty.
	So...
	So I suspect that the reason why we don't have the Marines crashing down the door and the reason why we don't have Donald Trump out there saying, okay, what's up with the Getty, is that they are aware of the nuclear bomb and they're aware of the politics and the, you know, chess game that is involved in having to defuse such a situation.
	So I'm pretty impressed with some of the back room things going on.
	But yes, the petition is on version number six.
	And I just started it tonight.
	You have to get 100,000 signatures in order for the petition to get up in front of the White House, but obviously things have been going on.
	They actually shut down some of my petitions.
	They actually shut down the entire petition site just to shut down my petition, but that was the last time we really had a lot of momentum.
	I suspect this time the people are primed and we'll have a little bit more momentum, and maybe your listeners will help me sign the petition, and I wish people wouldn't be afraid to do it.
	But basically, the petition just says, it calls upon the President to send in the Marines to get to the elevator and go down the elevator and rescue the children and bring them up to the surface.
	Very simple.
	Now, some people will not sign the petition because they're afraid, because they think they're going to get their name on a list and the NSA is going to come and kill them.
	No.
	If you're afraid, go crawl under a rock.
	You can't save the world if you're afraid.
	And the other thing is people say, well, you know, I don't believe there's 100,000 children under the Getty.
	I don't care if you believe it or not.
	If there's one child under the Getty that needs to be rescued, I need you to sign the petition.
	It's pretty damn simple.
	And the bottom line is whether the Marines go in there or not, if we can bring up enough awareness to where people will actually realize that this multi-billion dollar structure is hiding a very nasty, dark secret, then we'll get our, as soon as that happens, we get our Earth back.
	And all those billionaires that are running amok and destroying our world and trying to enslave us, guess what?
	All their assets are going to be confiscated.
	That's going to be the reset that everybody's waiting for.
	Okay, well, that's an interesting approach.
	I, you know, appreciate it.
	Now...
	What about the notion that Donald Trump has been going around supposedly arresting at least some pedophiles, supposedly taking them and interrogating them, maybe doing military trials offshore in Navy vessels, as I'm hearing.
	And I'm hearing this from more than one witness back channel as well.
	So it's not just a rumor.
	In a certain sense, it's not really necessary that people actually sign a petition.
	I appreciate the gesture.
	But in what's going on, Trump is aware.
	The people are certainly around him that are sort of cluing him in, have told him where these places are, etc., etc.
	So he knows.
	They know.
	It's a matter of whether they will actually...
	Kind of breach that level, whether they will go to war on that level.
	And that's really the question that I think is really out there right now that people might want to think about, because that's what's involved.
	It's not, you know, I guess you might know about my interviews with Captain Mark Richards, the Secret Space Program, and I've interviewed him now eight times.
	And I go up to Vacaville to interview him in prison.
	And he's talking about these, you know, they are going to try to arrest pedophiles and take them offshore and so on.
	But they're never going to get the highest level.
	Do you want to know what I have to say about that?
	Sure.
	And there's, you know, there's Draco involved as well, because this is a big war.
	Not just reptilians are one level, but Draco are another level.
	And yeah, and I was just going to say, I know, but let me finish just so I can paint the picture a little bit more.
	Mark Richards and his father were famous for having gone in with the military into Dulce.
	And rescuing, they did rescue a number of the abductees.
	And what they said happened was the next night they were abducted again by the greys.
	I mean, it's hideous shit, but, you know, he has no vested interest in lying about this, I have to say.
	So, you know, how do you look at this?
	You know, you're a smart guy.
	Most people are not even close to being to this level, let alone, because, you know, this is a thing like the petition.
	You talk about the effectiveness of the petition.
	Yes, it's all I'm...
	The petition is a finger pointing at the latch I understand.
	Sure.
	Now, as far as the secret space program and all of this is concerned and its relationship to what's going on underground, it's the same people, okay?
	It's the Third Reich.
	The Third Reich is very much involved.
	We have everything that's going on in Agartha and all that.
	People don't have any clues to that.
	We can't even begin to talk about that because most people, this is way over their heads.
	Well, I mean, let's not shortchange our audience here.
	My audience is pretty sophisticated.
	Obviously, your audience is not everybody, but I'm dealing with, like, for instance, the QAnon group.
	There's a lot of people who are trying to red pill right now who are Trump supporter, conservative Christians.
	Yeah, the idea of Dracos is they're like, wow, you know, Hollow Earth, Dracos, what are you talking about?
	But this is the thing about the Draco, and this is so important.
	For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, which means we're not here to kill humans.
	And I'll tell you something about our Jedi work.
	It's not just killing.
	In fact, killing is only a very, very small part of the Jedi work.
	Most of the Jedi work is negotiation and diplomacy and begging these people to give up.
	And just to get down there, just to get in there and get even close to these people, You have to jump through hoops.
	And this is so hard for people to understand, but this unconditional love, okay?
	You're not going to be a Jedi if you don't have unconditional love.
	And that means that you've got to be able to deal with these hideous, hideous, horrible criminals and love them just like your family.
	And this is the only thing that's going to make this stop.
	So the thing is, is that our system of justice and our system of punishment and our system of what we call law enforcement is based on a satanic system of punishment that is going to go away.
	And I'll tell you something, all those guys down there, they'd like to give up.
	Okay, all those evil, evil things down there.
	And I'm talking about the humans, not the Draco, but the humans.
	Draco, we don't care.
	We're going to kill them.
	But the humans that work for the Draco, we're going to bring them back into the human family when we have to because anything less than that is going to be serving the dark side and it's going to be creating Lucian, giving them more power.
	So we can't kill them.
	And it's just so hard for people to understand.
	And when we do kill them, We're doing it like a surgeon that's cutting out gangrene.
	We're not doing it because we hate them.
	We're doing it because they are dangerous to the body and they need to be removed.
	But we still love them just like they were part of us.
	Okay?
	And this is what people just don't understand.
	And this is why what I say, like your Mark Richards doesn't understand, is that, yes, they're not going to give up.
	They will blow everything up before they give up.
	Well, actually, I would say he understands more than almost any human I've met on the planet by virtue of the fact that he's dealt face to face with these beings and for many years, and so did his father.
	But aside from that, you know, I appreciate your approach.
	I will say that there is another level.
	I don't know if you've heard of this guy named Eddie Page who has got documented evidence showing that he's a group of 33 Pleiadians that were brought here and met with the president, worked for the CIA, were guarded by the CIA for their entire upbringing and I interviewed him just a couple days ago.
	He said there's a Pleiadian ship that has just entered our, I don't know if you call it our atmosphere, but very close to us, somewhere from the space station on in, and that it's a mother ship, so it's gigantic.
	And I think, I can't remember the exact measurements, but something like 18 miles in one direction, I think he said.
	And that sort of thing.
	So he said there's more on the way.
	It's interesting because I'm having him on the show.
	I think it's tomorrow afternoon.
	I'm having him back.
	And I'm just giving you this heads up because it's interesting.
	We're dealing with a war of worlds, as you know.
	And the question is, is that he's saying that the Pleiadians are saying that his, you know, contacts in the Pleiades are basically are sort of, they are, you know, brought Jesus.
	They were the original genome, human genome.
	Whether this is all completely correct or not is another matter.
	We can delve into that on another level.
	You know, sort of conversation.
	But the question is, is that they're saying there's no way that we can fight the Draco.
	And the reptilians and win without sort of their help.
	And Mark Richards is saying, I know this is, you know, I talk to a lot of people, Stephen, and Mark Richards is saying he deals with what are called the raptors, who originally came from the dinosaurs in the Draco line, but split off back when, 65 million years or more ago, and went their own way and now are working with our military.
	And he goes into great detail about this.
	And so he's saying that they are offering their help.
	In other words, we're in a situation where, yes, we have some tools to fight these beings, but Earth has been a playground for these beings now for quite a number of eons.
	And humans have also been their prey for a very long time.
	So You know, it's kind of, I think, you know, I appreciate your approach, but I think, you know, let's not be simplistic about it.
	There's a lot to this picture.
	There's not that many of them out there.
	Seriously, there's not that many.
	There's a lot more of us.
	Okay, this is why they want to kill us off so badly, because this whole idea of 7 billion humans, it's really dangerous.
	You know, it only takes like 4,000 humans to equal the power of a hydrogen bomb.
	And we're waking up.
	That's the thing.
	It's like the stuff that we're doing...
	I have a little Jedi army, okay, right now.
	I don't know how many there are.
	But the stuff that we do with just a little tiny group of people...
	Gosh, you know, I'm thinking about what's going to happen when I've got 200 million Jedi.
	I don't give a damn about the...
	You know what?
	This is the thing.
	For 25 million years...
	The Draco, the Anunnaki, and the Grey have been running amok and destroying everything and screwing it up for everybody else in the universe, and that's over.
	And we're us humans that may be the hybrids that were created by all these guys.
	I don't care if you're a Grey hybrid, an Anunnaki hybrid, or a reptile hybrid.
	We're still all humans.
	And we're brothers and we're going to work together.
	And guess what?
	The Creator put us here to kill off those masters.
	The slaves are rising up.
	This is like Haiti all over again.
	And this is how it's going to go down.
	The first thing that's going to go is all the reptoids on Earth.
	Then all the greys on the moon.
	And then when the next time Nibiru rolls around and we get a visit by the Anunnaki, we're going to take them out.
	And we have a lot of help out there.
	I'll tell you, you talk about Pleiadians.
	My God, the Pleiadians couldn't even get into the Getty until we opened the door.
	Well, I'm not sure where you're getting that information.
	From being there.
	What does that mean?
	What it means is when you go down there into the Getty and you're getting ready to open the door, you got all these entities that have been there for a hundred million years sitting there waiting behind you.
	Yes, there's a lot of help out there.
	We have a big old cheering section and there's a lot of...
	You see, this is the thing.
	All these densities, they don't work together until they work together.
	And it wasn't until our reality merged with the reality of these higher levels that it even became reality for them to even get involved in.
	The fourth density, fifth density types like the Pleiadians are sitting out there on the outskirts.
	They couldn't even get involved in this stuff until we simple third density humans That allowed it to come into our brains and make it reality.
	Because it wasn't even part of the matrix until it was in our brain.
	That's not the information I have.
	I don't care what they're telling you.
	That's what I'm telling you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, what resonates is what resonates.
	And I'm sorry, you have to go back in history a lot farther than that.
	And I appreciate your approach.
	By the way, Pleiadians are six-dimensional.
	So, and they may be more than that at this point.
	Let's say density.
	Dimension isn't even a word.
	Dimension is a function of time.
	Density is what we use.
	Density is a function of time.
	Well, there's densities and dimensions, so you have to deal with both.
	One's vertical and one's horizontal, if you want to look at it like that.
	But I think that this discussion is getting a bit esoteric, and we don't need to sort of argue over those niceties.
	But I appreciate what you're saying.
	So you believe that humans will beat these various negative entities that are trying to take down us and the planet, and we will not need the help of at least, well, there are many different races, as I say, offering their help at this time.
	So if you say we have help, I think we're basically saying the same thing.
	We're both getting that same kind of information.
	The good guys don't interfere.
	War is a really bad word because they are fighting.
	The higher level densities are certainly going at it.
	The service to self entities are the ones that are offering the help.
	The service to other entities, they leave it up to us.
	Well, actually, that's not quite true.
	It's a little more complex than that.
	When the service to self entities open the door and take an action, that opens the door for the service to others to then step in.
	And they most often work through us, but they're not completely helpless.
	And as far as service to self and categorizing the beings, that's That's not such an easy thing to do.
	You know, it's not that easy to categorize a person.
	You can sit there and try to do it mathematically by percentage and say this person is more service to self than that person.
	But it's, you know, it's a pretty complex game.
	So I appreciate that.
	But all right, it's great that you're working towards the positive and that you believe in the power of humanity, which I do as well.
	So why don't we take some questions from the chat, which is going here quite rapidly.
	So if you have a question, put a question mark after your chat and put it on all caps if you're able to.
	And now I'm wondering, do you, are you doing, you sent me a link to what appears to be a show.
	Do you have a Do you have a regular show where you're appearing now, Stephen?
	Well, I sent you the link to the Truth Cat Radio, which is my network, of course.
	And I have a show that I do.
	I do on Thursday night at 7 p.m.
	But, you know, if you tune in there, there's archives and what have you.
	So if there's not a live broadcast going on, there'll be an archive playing.
	Okay, great.
	So people can go to the front page of Project Camelot.tv and you can click on this interview with Stephen and you can get a lot of links that he gave me.
	And I'll also be putting these underneath the YouTube so that you can also click on those.
	Anything else, while we're waiting to see if anyone has some questions for you, that you want to update us on, on what you've been doing over the last few years, Stephen?
	In terms of, you know, investigations, information, etc.
	Well, you know, obviously, anything that involves undergrounds we've been looking at.
	And one of the things that we found out was the home that Jared Leto is living in, which was a former Air Force, Lookout Mountain Air Force installation, is actually connected to the Getty S tunnels.
	We're starting to find all the peripheral people who are connected to these things.
	I did do an investigation of the so-called Devil's Castle up on Crestline, which was the place where Ted Gunderson said the children from McMartin Preschool were being taken.
	And, yeah, my research up there proved that, yeah, it definitely was a satanic hotbed, and it led me to research a lot of other stuff where I realized that the people in the past, the last hundred years or so, the people who have been selling these areas...
	If you look in just about any county in California, for instance, San Bernardino County was where we started.
	We find an incredible amount of human trafficking and people within the government on pretty much every level, especially the agencies like the Human Child Protective Services, all these agencies that are supposedly set up to protect homeless people, vulnerable people, children.
	They're actually all tools of the very people that are doing the preying upon them.
	You know, so we're definitely finding that pattern.
	Another big pattern that helps us out, of course, is finding out who controls the water.
	As soon as you find out who controls the water in any city or any county, you've got a really strong link to who's involved in all the nefarious activities.
	And one thing I should bring out, you know, we talked about, we mentioned Frank Gustra earlier, Clinton's friend and associate, the one that's been involved in, we definitely have, you know, Connected him to pedophilia and human trafficking.
	He has a foundation, Randolph or Radcliffe Foundation, I think they call it.
	And this foundation is involved in everything from Syrian refugees to homeless people to boys club.
	And then what else has he got in there?
	Organ donation.
	Now, how does organ donation fit in there with boys club, homeless people and Syrian refugees?
	Gosh, I don't know.
	That's kind of dirty, huh?
	That's how dirty these people are, and they think we're not going to notice.
	Oh, and Carlos Slim, same thing.
	Really big on organ donation.
	Yeah, that's, yeah, right, going down that level.
	Alright, so in terms of your own personal journey, have you been getting in touch with various beings from various races and are there any particular beings that are of special interest to you?
	Well, if you're talking about aliens and that sort of thing, I don't really...
	It could be any kind of being.
	I mean, whatever you...
	I'm a Reiki master, of course, and...
	I'm healing people all over the world.
	I do this a lot now.
	You talk about beings.
	This is the thing.
	You know about all the super soldier stuff.
	I know you people know about everything.
	I have this entity that we refer to as Rambo.
	Rambo has been getting very active lately.
	He pretty much will do anything I want.
	But Rambo's one of the reasons why these guys won't touch me, I think, when I can get away with these things.
	I don't know.
	If you've met Rambo, you'll know what I'm talking about.
	I'm sure there's people listening right now that have met Rambo.
	Oh, gosh.
	Carrie, I don't know.
	Have you ever met Rambo?
	No, not to my knowledge.
	This sounds like a discarnate entity.
	Yeah, he's my alter.
	Okay.
	If you will.
	But yeah, I don't know what he is exactly.
	He's another density entity.
	He's a higher level density entity, but he's very active on this plane.
	And he's kind of like my bodyguard, I guess, something like that.
	I don't know what you call him, but he's been very active lately.
	Okay.
	And let's just say that, you know, we talk about developing our psychic skills and so many people are waking up and they're just The wake-up is going on right now.
	Obviously, the healing, I don't even have to really put any effort into it.
	I can heal things and heal people far away.
	Just the psychic stuff in general, you know, you get really good at it, but the altar business is a whole other thing.
	I don't really talk about it because I don't really know.
	I'm not really privy to a lot of the stuff that goes on, but I do know that I can direct a lot of things, and I do know that it's really strong.
	In other words, if I was to, say, send somebody over there to go hold your hand right now, you would feel it.
	Okay?
	Or put my hand on your shoulder.
	If I was going to do that, you would feel it.
	So it's really strong right now.
	Okay.
	Well, I think, you know, I do believe people's abilities are increasing.
	I know...
	I know my own experience is that, and I'm meeting people and they're talking to me about the things they're able to do and see and so on.
	So I think it's nice to see humanity stepping up in this way.
	Now, somebody wants to know if you've looked into the Lux Zeppelin project in Silicon Valley and Neutrino Network in South Dakota.
	Alright, I haven't looked into...
	Alright, what I have looked at are the Mondavi Winery and the Rothschild Winery.
	There's some really nasty stuff going on over there.
	But the Silicon Valley and all that, I haven't really looked at any of that stuff.
	As far as that Neutrino project, no, I haven't looked at that.
	I haven't looked at CERN. I've been looking at stuff in China.
	And I've been looking for I've been looking for stuff underneath Mount Everest, under Tibet.
	I'm kind of looking for...
	You see, this is the thing.
	I don't need to look because it's all hooked up.
	Once we open Pandora's box and they go down there, they're going to be able to take all the tubes to all these other locations.
	And I don't have the manpower to do that.
	We go after the Getty, we go after whatever we go after, but we don't go after everything at once.
	And so there's a lot of, they have a lot of, let's just say that personnel in one location could very easily relocate to another location relatively quickly with the transportation and what they have down there.
	There's a lot of, there's been a lot going on, okay?
	There's been attacks.
	Even the Pleiadians have been down there fighting against Dracos and they've been taking out some of the bases down there.
	But they repopulate the stuff.
	They don't stay empty very long.
	The same thing with the Getty.
	When we went down there and we did a big attack on the Getty here a little while back, yeah, it hurt them, but they just bring in new people.
	So the things don't really change for very long, but it does make them a little weaker.
	Obviously, the more people get involved, the more effective we'll be at dealing with all these things.
	Alright, someone wants to know, what do you think about the mantis beings?
	Alright, those are interdimensional critters.
	Alright, those are interdimensional critters.
	And that just means that on another timeline, there are entities that look like that.
	You know, that's like the Mothman thing.
	One of the things that I learned about from the people at the Getty, And, of course, this is what they say, so you've got to take it with a grain of salt, but what they said was that we were under attack by some interdimensional entities, and they were actually screwing with the Earth in such a way to alter our dimension, to try to push us away from these other entities that were invading our dimension, per se.
	And this is one of the excuses that they use for Screwing with the Earth timeline.
	And the real main reason why they've been screwing with the Earth timeline is to extend our, to stretch out our man hours so that we can produce as much technology as possible so that when the Nibiru and all that comes around, that we'll have better technologically developed to be able to deal with the issue.
	But that's really all I know about that.
	All right.
	Some people want to know, you've mentioned Jedi's, so you have an organization.
	Maybe you want to talk a little bit about what your concept of a Jedi is and how you guys are applying that?
	All right.
	Well, basically, yes.
	Jedi is just a convenient word that we are borrowing from the movie, of course, because it seems to Describe what it is that we're trying to do.
	This actually started last year when we were getting really frustrated with the Getty thing.
	We were trying to help people develop their skills and put together as many of the remote viewers and people as we could because there's so many gifted remote viewers and lightworkers out there, but they've all been kind of working on their own.
	One of the things about this whole The Jedi business is that when you're dealing on the fourth density, the time isn't the same as when you're on this level.
	So in other words, it doesn't matter what the date is.
	If you decide you want to get involved in this mission, this could be 20 years in the future or sometime in the past.
	The time is still going to be the same.
	In other words, it's like, for instance, when we have a Jedi function, Everybody just shows up.
	We don't plan these things.
	They just show up.
	You'll be dreaming or something and someone will say, it's time.
	And that's it.
	And you just go.
	And everybody's there.
	And it could take days to do a mission.
	One mission, it took three or four days.
	And You don't really know what's going on.
	You don't know what you're doing.
	You're just sort of out of commission for three days.
	And when it's over, you feel like you've been beat up.
	That's what happened to me.
	And you feel like you've been trudging through mountains and carrying heavy weights and everything else.
	And you didn't go anywhere.
	And then we all get back together and we start talking about it and we start comparing notes.
	And then it starts coming back and you start getting your recollection.
	But for the most part, I'm not allowed to remember this stuff because it's too horrible.
	And I'd go nuts if I did.
	So it's just as well.
	Okay, well, yeah, I do believe people are always working on various levels, and even when they're not aware of it.
	So a lot of the people that are listening to this or watching this will probably also kind of have the sense.
	It's just like when you wake up from a dream and you find yourself exhausted.
	What were you doing all night?
	You know, that sort of thing.
	So...
	Someone is asking, how do you attack Dracos in the Getty?
	With love.
	With love.
	Okay, first of all, you know, you're dealing with Dracos in real life right now, and you don't even know it.
	There's all kinds of people out there that look like perfectly normal humans that are Draco.
	And there's also the Black Shadows.
	When you're on the other side in the astral, you can see the black shadows and you can see the entities that are inside of other people.
	Because on the other side, you don't look like a body.
	You look like a light body.
	You've got your sparkly lights.
	And when you've got something inside of you, you don't see the sparkly lights.
	You see the shadow, the black shadow.
	And so that's what it's going to look like if somebody's got the Draco inside of them.
	Now, a Draco, though, can also just look like a human.
	But this is the thing.
	When you're down there, we're not even dealing with the Dracos right now.
	We're dealing with humans.
	Okay?
	Like I said, we haven't even gone down that far to the really awful, awful stuff yet.
	None of my people have gone down that far.
	We all get to the same place and we stop.
	So we're not there yet.
	And for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, that means that it's the Draco's okay.
	We're going to wrestle against the Draco, but we're not going to be wrestling against our fellow human.
	And once we've taken out the fellow humans and all the pedos and all these guys have been ruling the earth for all these years that are down there, then we can deal with the Draco.
	And it's not going to be...
	And then by that time, though, we will have at our disposal all of the other humans that are trained for this sort of thing, including the...
	The guys on the dark side right now, we're going to bring them to be on our side and help us fight against the Draco.
	And yes, we will remove the Draco from the Earth.
	And whatever Draco are out there floating around, we will deal with them too, because you guys have got to understand that this is not AR-15s and bullets.
	Okay?
	This is psychic.
	And I'll tell you, and you talk to any of these super soldiers, if they're the real deal, they'll tell you the same damn thing.
	It doesn't matter what you go up against.
	All you got to do is say, Jesus Christ said, you're dead.
	It's so easy.
	I do that time and time again.
	You go up against a monster and they think they're so tough.
	You're not coming past me.
	You're nothing.
	You're nothing.
	And then all you got, I don't even have to say it.
	All I have to do is think it.
	And they're, boom, they're gone.
	Just like that.
	They don't know what hit them.
	And we all do it.
	We all do it.
	So this is not religion, but that's what we do.
	That's how it's done.
	Okay.
	All right, Stephen.
	So you have a radio show on Thursday nights at 7 o'clock.
	And it goes onto your YouTube channel after you're done, or where does it go?
	Do you have an archive?
	Well, yes.
	Truth Cat Radio does have a YouTube channel.
	And, of course, if you go to YouTube and do a search for Stephen D. Kelly...
	You'll see both of my YouTube channels will pop up.
	All right.
	So that's one idea.
	All right.
	Great.
	And someone wants to know something, if you know anything about an energy wave.
	Okay.
	Well, if they're talking about the wave that's coming from the center of the universe, yeah.
	Didn't you feel it?
	Did you feel it, Carrie?
	Yeah.
	You know, we've been talking about this for a while.
	It's been going on.
	It's been getting really strong, huh?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's pretty amazing.
	Okay, well, I think we, you know, I'm not seeing any pressing questions here.
	Some of the people are asking questions.
	Listen, guys, you've got to listen to the whole interview.
	We've already said, you know, I'm not going to have him repeat himself in essence.
	If you came in late and you don't know what's happening, I suggest you rewind and start at the beginning.
	What's the gist of what they're asking?
	First of all, one person doesn't know what the J. Paul Getty Museum is.
	So the J. Paul Getty Museum is...
	There's two of them in Southern California here in the Los Angeles area.
	And we're specifically talking about...
	Actually, it's in the picture.
	If you looked at my banner at the front, we actually have a pitter.
	I'll put it on the screen here if I can manage.
	Well, I should mention something, Carrie.
	Yes.
	Okay, the original Getty Museum Villa, the Getty Villa in Malibu...
	People wonder if that has anything going on, connection.
	Yeah, the Getty Villa in Malibu also does have some underground stuff, but we really don't know anything about that.
	But the one we're talking about, of course, is the Getty Center, which is on top of Santa Monica Mountain.
	Okay, I'm putting that...
	You can't see this, but this is now on the screen for people to see, and you can't miss it.
	It's like a city on top of a hill, kind of like...
	In Brentwood, in essence, and you can Google it if you don't know about it.
	It's called the Getty Museum, as far as I know, or the Getty Center, as you're calling it.
	So anyway, that was sort of a very in-the-beginning type of question that somebody came in late, obviously hadn't been up to speed on that at least that much.
	All right, so...
	It's been fun to have you on the show, Stephen.
	I'm wondering, have you given really all of your information?
	Because you have a petition, and I want to make sure people know, do they need to go to a special link to find it, or what's the simple way to find this stuff?
	Well, that's the thing about the White House petition page, is that it won't even really show up on the page until we've got at least 250 signatures.
	So Best way to find it, of course, is just to do a Google search with my name and look at the various Facebook pages and what have you, because I actually have a Facebook group called the White House Petition Support Group where I try to keep these things.
	That's the best thing to do.
	Find you on Facebook.
	Some people are not on Facebook.
	If you're not on Facebook, is YouTube the best place to find your radio show?
	Twitter works.
	You don't know your Twitter though, right?
	No, it's easy.
	It's at one Stephen D. Kelly.
	Simple enough.
	That's not too hard.
	Sounds good.
	If you'd like to stay in touch, we'd love to have you back and hear about your progress and do some more recruiting or whatever it is you want to do.
	Seriously, though, the Jedi stuff is real.
	And this is the thing.
	There's a lot of people out there that really want to do this business.
	And I'm just going to say, if you want to be a Jedi, all you've got to do is ask.
	Just tell the universe...
	I want to help.
	Can I, you know, let me do this?
	And you'll get to do it.
	They'll let you.
	Absolutely.
	You do.
	You're very good about that.
	All right.
	Okay, well, you take care.
	And thanks, everyone, for watching and listening.
	And stay tuned.
	We'll have a very interesting interview tomorrow, as I say, at 1 o'clock.
	I'm going to bring Eddie Page back.
	We're going to delve into a lot more of what his life story in the book is all about.
	And so stay tuned for that.
	And Stephen, thank you so much for being on the show.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.
	So that's Stephen D. Kelly.
	And actually, you can also go on to my...
	Well, it's a Vimeo, and he spoke at one of my conferences and gave a very good lecture on this subject matter, and you can get it on Vimeo for really a very reasonable price, and the money just goes to support my work and keep us alive, and I think it's something, I don't even know what they're selling for, but I think it's something like You know, $2.99 or something, you know, like $3 or whatever.
	And so that would help.
	So there's a lot of interesting shows being made out there.
	YouTube Red has actually got an interesting show about teleporting called Impulse, which it's a series, and I found it very interesting.
	So it's kind of, again, sort of showing the...
	The abilities that humans have to do kind of amazing things.
	And we've really just graced the surface of our abilities.
	So it is fun to watch shows in which people are utilizing these capabilities and what's happening around them as a result.
	So I encourage people to take a look at maybe that.
	And this will go onto my main YouTube channel.
	So thank you for supporting Project Camelot and my Project Camelot TV YouTube channels.
	Both of them are active and I broadcast on one and then I transfer the file over to the other as well.
	So take care and I'll be back tomorrow.
	Have a good night.

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