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Feb. 2, 2018 - Project Camelot
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MICHAEL FITZHUGH BELL: SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY & SECRET SOCIETIES
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here today with Michael, I'm sorry, Fitzberg Bell.
And actually, I didn't ask him how to pronounce the middle part, but I think it's Michael Fitzberg Bell.
And Michael, I'm going to bring you on the screen here, having a bit of a Trouble with all these windows I've got going on.
But is that how you pronounce your name?
It's Michael Fitzhugh Bell.
Oh, really?
So I'm not pronouncing it right at all.
That's okay.
No worries.
Just going to bring you on the screen quickly here.
And...
Sorry, he's got a window there and he can't cover it up.
The light's going to be moving across his face, so just bear with us.
Hopefully, the sun is going down where he is, so then he'll be a bit more in focus as time goes on.
So Michael, I'm going to give a brief introduction here to you and read from your bio.
So you've got a book called The Invisible Crime and you're going to be talking about synthetic telepathy, being a targeted individual, the global criminal biomedical human experimentation and various aspects of the covert human experimentation And then we've got a whole list, and it's on my website for those that want to see the list.
He's given a really nice explanation of each area, synthetic telepathy, transhumanism, and this is actually, basically he talks about the secret government, the cabal, covert illegal human experimentation, And advanced camouflage and invisibility cloaking technologies, which is good that you're including that.
And then remotely induced mind control through electronic harassment and biomedical torture.
And you're also going to be talking about secret societies within the community.
Really, the DOJ and the FBI and CIA, obviously.
So that's a very quick overview for people of what you've got going on.
And it's really fascinating.
And I'd love to have you give yourself a bit of an introduction, how you got into the field and why you started writing your books.
Okay, my name is Michael Fitzhugh Bell.
I was a screenwriter out in Hollywood, California when I first became a targeted individual.
It happened to me when I became aware of it was 2008, just about 10 years ago exactly.
Although, when I look back, it probably started as early with the organized stalking probably as early as 2001.
Shortly after 9-11.
But basically, one night I went to sleep in my apartment in Hollywood and I was drugged and abducted from my apartment.
And I remember bits and pieces of the abduction.
I remember my perpetrators were wearing frightening masks.
I could see that they were wearing masks.
And at other parts of the abduction, I remember Surgeons standing over me with surgical masks on as I lay on an operating table somewhere.
And then I woke up thinking that it was the next morning, but it was really eight days later.
And I noticed that my body was riddled with these tiny, corresponding and symmetrical surgical incision scars.
And I couldn't figure out what had happened to me.
Several private investigators and an ex-CIA agent, and they informed me that from the description of what happened to me, it sounded like that I'd become a targeted individual and that I had possibly been implanted with advanced biomedical devices, non-consensual, non-therapeutic, and it's part of what's known as an unacknowledged special access program.
Part of the shadow government, the military black ops is believed to be part of it.
But really what this entire, what I'm being experimented on is the most advanced weapon system ever created by mankind.
It involves every aspect of science, neuroscience, Psychology, medicine, physics, mathematics, and all war tactics, techniques, methods.
Basically the sum of all human knowledge.
Wow, that's really incredible.
And I'm going to switch over to a different screen here so we can get both of us on the screen while I talk.
So it's really shocking that you had this...
Very clear abduction and basically you're saying you were gone for eight days.
How is it that you knew and that you recovered this sort of memory?
Did you have people around you that were aware of your disappearance?
And I mean, how did that all work?
No, I... I was a writer before this happened to me, and I'm not married.
I don't have any children.
I live by myself in my apartments in Los Angeles.
I usually speak to my family about once a week, but it's not uncommon for me to go for a week without talking to them, although they did try to contact me during those eight days, and that was the first of about Approximately 10 different abductions.
And also during that process, when I first realized what had happened to me, when I woke up thinking it was the next morning, but it was really eight days later that I was returned to my apartment, I could still feel the effects of what I believe to be a drug called scopolamine or also known as devil's breath,
which is Usually leaves the victim with complete amnesia, not able to remember anything that had happened to them.
I believe that was one of the drugs that may have been used on me.
And so I could still feel the effects of the drug in my system.
And where I lived in Hollywood was a couple of blocks away.
On one side, the police department was very close to where I lived.
And then on the other side, Cedars-Sinai Hospital.
In West Hollywood, California.
And I started walking to the police station because I wanted to report what had happened to me.
But then I realized they were probably going to ask me what proof or evidence did I have?
I had these scars on me, but I didn't.
I didn't really know that much about what had happened to me at that point.
So I wanted to get tested to show that I'd been drugged.
Certainly I wanted to show that.
So I started heading to the hospital and I went to the emergency room.
And when I explained to them, sadly, when I told them the truth of what had happened to me, they didn't believe me.
Locked up into a psychiatric facility for six days in which while I was there further surgeries were performed on me while I was at that psychiatric facility and that happened to me three different times within a six-month period and each time I went to one of these facilities more extensive Surgeries were performed
on me while I was there.
For people that don't know about this crime, it's hard to believe.
We're talking about extremely advanced classified technologies.
With the organized stalking, we're talking about a technologically advanced technology Intelligence network.
So that's part of what's the organized stalking.
But the crime itself is really composed of three central parts.
Organized stalking, electronic harassment, and remotely induced mind control.
Although there are dozens of other crimes and sub-crimes that are connected to the main crime itself.
That's It's very difficult to prove.
It leaves very little evidence, and it's very difficult to get medical proof.
So I literally traveled around the world collecting medical evidence in the forms of MRIs, ultrasounds, and x-rays, which I've included in my first book.
The Invisible Crime, Illegal Microchip Implants and Microwave Technology and Their Use Against Humanity.
That was my first book and in that first book I did have one implant removed from the inside of my lower jaw and the doctor would not let me keep it and I was able to photograph it and there's two photographs in the first book of that first implant that I had removed.
Wow, that's just incredible.
So, because you're a writer, when this all happened to you, apparently you took notes and all of that.
I kept a journal and I documented everything that I could, although it's difficult for people that don't know about this crime to understand.
The classified technologies that we're talking about here are so sophisticated that it's difficult for people to comprehend the level of sophistication that's being used.
And these technologies are probably upwards of 70 years ahead of where we are today in the world in regular technology.
Right.
Now, what I'd like you to do is actually go through and give a definition of each sort of technology that you've experienced, if you don't mind, so that we can give people an idea about what it is you're talking about.
The technologies themselves...
All of the technologies together allow the criminals, the perpetrators, the people that are responsible for the experimentation on me to view, monitor, surveillance, track, and torture the victim, in this case me, from great distances remotely.
And also, when you're talking about some of the...
Electronic assaults that I experience.
One of them is electronic sleep deprivation, which occurs to me every single night.
I'm denied what most people would get as their regular sleep.
Each time I try to go to sleep, as I'm just dozing off, just going to sleep, I will get a strong electronic shock that that jolts me and wakes me up and prevents me from sleeping and denying me my rapid eye movement REM sleep which is the deepest most restorative aspect of sleep that we all need to survive and to have a healthy strong immune system many
other target individuals Experience something called voice-to-skull technology, which is a proven to exist in work technology, and that is something that the person experiencing it will hear voices being beamed at them remotely that only they can hear.
And I don't hear that.
I don't have that aspect, although most targeted individuals do have the voice-to-skull technology or the V2K. I have something called silent subliminal sound presentation, but it's not silent.
I do hear a loud electronic sound that I never heard before, before this happened to me.
And it's constantly changing in its pitch and its volume.
It's very difficult for me to get any sleep outside of the electronic sleep deprivation.
I'm also hearing this extremely loud, unnatural sound that's being beamed to me.
I remember the moment that, as I talk about in the first book, that I was activated and I heard this sound for the first time and it's been going constantly, continuously since Since shortly after my initial abduction.
Wow.
Yeah, I understand.
Now, this is happening to a lot of people, and I have to say there's something very weird going on with my camera right now, so I don't know what happened.
But anyway, so I think I'll take myself off the screen for the moment.
I'm all distorted.
How do you do this?
So anyway, I guess they're just screwing with us.
So that's never happened.
That's very common in my interviews.
Many times there'll be technical problems, either the audio or the video, or if I'm doing an interview via phone, sometimes there'll be an interruption or they have a hard time setting up the call.
And it's no coincidence that that's happening.
And for me, that kind of confirms to me that what I'm talking about obviously is the people that are responsible for this crime, the criminals, the perpetrators, whatever you want to call them.
Are obviously threatened by the exposure.
So when things like that happen, it kind of confirms to me that what I'm doing is the right thing and that it matters.
And obviously, it's threatening to expose the people that are responsible.
Absolutely.
Well, there is something weird going on.
We also have a lot of, I don't know, suddenly drilling or whatever kind of going machines going on outside my apartment.
Okay, so in terms of the secret societies, I'm just going to jump ahead a little bit and then we'll kind of circle back.
The secret societies and the FBI, the Department of Defense, the DOJ, the CIA, which I know is involved.
Do you want to talk about how you cover that in your book?
Well, for my specific, I mean, there's really three parts, three entities in my research that are responsible, that are behind this crime.
One of them certainly is the shadow government, the military black ops, even the cabal, which is a secret government or political group or faction.
Even a secret society, you could refer to it as, that they do exist within, in my research, within the Department of Justice and the FBI, and certainly that's where most of the funding for this crime comes from.
It's a very expensive crime, and it's also the multinational corporations which are responsible For the design, manufacture and deployment of sophisticated electronic weapon systems.
It's also the global criminal syndicate.
So you have those three things and the money for this, which is also referred to as the psychological warfare program.
And that's coming out of taxpayer money that was originally designated for the military.
And to give you an idea of the expense that we're talking about here, in my research, the estimates for the psychological warfare program, for every 1,000 targeted individuals, it costs $4 billion every single year.
So for every 250 targeted individuals, that's a billion dollars.
For every single targeted individual, for every year that they're in this program, that they're being surveillanced illegally, that's four million dollars each year on the average for each person.
And obviously there's different levels of targeting.
There is no good level of targeting, but certainly some people are being targeted differently than others.
It's kind of like a fingerprint.
Can I stop you there and just ask you, where do you get your numbers from?
Where are you getting that?
That was estimates that I found in my research that were shared to me through other targeted individuals.
Somebody who'd done a lot of research that did work, I guess, within the military.
That was an article that I read recently.
So that's where I'm getting that information from, but it seems pretty accurate.
Okay.
Well, okay, so in terms of the secret societies, though, within those organizations, because actually I know that there is, for example, the Vatican is very instrumental in the CIA and always has been, for example.
Is there anything else you can say about how those secret societies might also be sort of involved in more than just...
I don't know, being in relationship to it.
In other words, they themselves, because this gets into the Illuminati, the targeting that they do, you know, of family members even, and putting them in programs.
Also, of course, the secret rituals that they may get individuals to participate in, etc., etc.
So do you have any more information that you talk about in your book in regard to this?
Well, the secret societies are believed to be, certainly in families, connected to bloodlines of people.
This is what my research shows.
So sometimes certain families will be targeted and each person in that family or a child or a grandchild, the targeting will continue through the entire family.
And in my research, it's more, in this country, we're seeing targeted individuals being targeted individually, whereas in other parts of the world, like China, Russia, parts of Europe, it's widely believed and reported that entire families and families The entire family will be targeted.
Whereas here, an entire family may be targeted, but it's generally one person that seems to be getting most of the attention.
And in my new book, I describe the level of targeting that I'm at is referred to in my research.
I'm known as At a very high level of targeting, recognized as a signature target or a hard target.
But there is no good level of targeting, but certainly when you measure what's happening to one person against that of another, there's definitely differences and different levels and more severe levels, too.
For instance, I will, on a regular basis, receive Very bad, sometimes third-degree burns on parts of my body.
And some people don't receive that at all.
And also the level of my organized stalking.
The technologically advanced intelligence network that surrounds me wherever I go, wherever I travel, is very involved.
Many people are involved within this network.
Along those lines, have you ever tried to go up to the people or photograph them, something of that nature?
Yes, I document all the time and I've included photographs of some of the classic hallmark behavior The behavior of the perpetrators.
I've included photographs, several photographs in the new book of the covert harassment that I received.
Most people wouldn't notice the things that I've pointed out in the photographs.
It may look like ordinary, routine people just standing in a certain position.
Or touching their face.
And most people wouldn't really notice these things.
But over time, the targeted individual will become sensitized to certain behavior and certainly certain aspects of the way people behave around them.
And it's covert in that The targeted individual can see that these people are involved and they want them to know that they're being surveillanced.
And part of the remotely induced mind control is based on something called trauma-based behavior modification.
So by keeping the targeted individual in a very high anxiety state constantly, It lends itself toward the remotely induced mind control.
It seems to make it easier for that to happen in mind studies.
Okay, now you were a screenwriter in Hollywood and we don't know exactly...
Am I assuming that you don't know why you're targeted?
No one has come forward and claimed responsibility for what's happened to me, but I have to say in all honesty that when I look back at something that I may have been responsible for in my life that may have caused me to put me in this program, in this unacknowledged special access program, The psychological warfare program, targeted individual, whatever you'd like to call it.
I have to say that there was one incident when I was 19 years old where I was responsible for a car accident in which another person was injured.
And I'm not pointing a finger at anyone, but I have to say that If you look at this situation, the individual came from one of the most powerful, influential, wealthiest families in the world with extremely strong political and government ties.
And this person was extremely badly injured in this accident, whereas nothing really happened to me other than the trauma of the accident itself.
It would kind of be absurd for me to not consider that that would be a possible reason for me specifically being put in the program.
Sorry, I have my phone going off now.
Oh, no problem.
Okay, so I take it you don't want to say who that is or anything?
I will say that it's one of the 13 Illuminati families, but I don't think it would be wise for me to Especially since I can't really prove it, but when people ask me why, I would have to say that's a possible, very good possible reason as to why I was specifically targeted.
Well, let me ask you what kind of screenplays you were writing and whether or not your screen, you know, did you stop writing screenplays?
Were you writing, were you involved in Hollywood in a certain way?
Were you, did you get targeted?
Were you, for example, sexually harassed?
Did you encounter the pedophilia that they're talking about at this point in Hollywood, in your own life, etc.?
No.
I mean, I was just an independent writer, and I mostly worked on the kind of movies that I like to see, generally romantic comedies, comedies, dramas.
That's the genre that I would, those are the genres that I would write in.
And I was, at the time, I was actually at the best possible position.
I did get some connections because I did, I worked on many different movies and television series, HBO series as a location caterer.
I was also a chef in my life and worked at many different restaurants and hotels around the world.
And so I got a lot of connections through the location catering, working right on films and on TV series in Hollywood.
And also I was just getting my foot in the door with big meetings with some of the Bigger literary agencies and some of the studios that were interested in my work when this happened to me.
Okay.
Everything else in my life kind of got put on hold at that point.
Okay.
Did you have any friends that were witnesses at that point, you know, when these things happened to you that have been sort of along for, you know, seeing this stuff go on with you?
Not really.
I mean, where I lived in Hollywood, in my apartment, I didn't really know any of the other people in my building, and none of the people were aware of what happened to me.
But one of the things that I write about in the new book, and this isn't discussed very much, this has been reported to me by hundreds of different targeted individuals that have been in contact with me is that certainly in the initial abduction and for women especially that are targeted individuals
that receive repeated sexual assault many times and I've experienced it myself seeing this This technique, this advanced camouflage or invisibility cloaking was used against me several different times in several different apartments that I had in Hollywood.
And these are proven to exist in work technologies.
One of them is called HST or hyper stealth technology, which is actually a fabric which bends the light Which tricks the human eye and so that whatever a person wearing this fabric can to some degree be invisible to the person, to another person.
And also there's two other different versions of this technology that I know of.
One of them uses dyes in a fabric that transfers different dyes that kind of act like a chameleon effect to blend into the background of whatever this material is against.
And also there's another more advanced version of this advanced camouflage called MetaSkin, which is worn directly on the skin and is similar to the HST technology in that it bends the light and tricks the human eye.
But generally, when this advanced camouflage is used against someone, it's usually done in conjunction with some format of covert drugging.
So you're under the influence of, let's say, scopolamine, which is a very fast-acting drug that overwhelms the victim and usually gives them complete amnesia.
So if you're And then if you also factor in that the perpetrators generally in teams of three, which I refer to in my first book as Sandman teams, three people in my research will enter a person's residence and usually the covert drugging always at some point during
these These assaults or these abductions always some format of covert drugging is always involved and then if you also factor in that they may be using some form of advanced camouflage it makes it very difficult for a person to recount that to another person to tell them exactly what happened to them and also That's one of the geniuses
of this invisible crime is that it kind of covers its own tracks, if you will, as it goes along because no matter what happens, when the person tries to recount what's happened to them to another person,
it makes them look delusional or mentally ill when really they are victims of a very advanced crime And then you'd have to say, well, do you have any idea how much something like that would cost?
Yes, I discussed earlier the $4 billion for every 1,000 people like me.
And then when you're looking at the larger picture, and all of this money is coming from taxpayer money that's been diverted to the military, widely reported anyway, that's where Where this money is coming from initially.
But you're looking at, for the bigger picture, a crime that's being scaled to the entire human population for human enslavement and depopulation.
So the experimentation that's being done on me, eventually the end goal is human enslavement.
And so no price tag would be too big To reach that end result.
Okay.
So what I want to know, though, is when you said they're using cloaking technology, what you mean is the perpetrators are cloaking themselves.
You don't mean they're cloaking you in some way.
Is that correct?
They're cloaking themselves.
I'll give you an example.
A woman...
Several women have reported nearly identical scenarios to me through my websites.
I have an area where people can make comments and leave their number and their address and a brief description of their incident that they wanted to share with me.
And several women told me that they'd gone to sleep and just as they were going to sleep, One woman in particular had dogs that she liked and her dogs that slept with her and it was twilight I guess it was you know twilight at the end of the day and she went to sleep the lights were off in her room and then she saw the door open up and
she didn't see anyone there but her dogs were barking incessantly They wouldn't stop barking.
Obviously, someone was there.
And then she could hear people whispering, but she couldn't see them.
But she could feel that people were in the room with her.
And then not only that, she could smell the alcohol and the cigarettes on their breath when they were in her room.
And then shortly thereafter, she was drugged and raped.
And that happens continuously to this woman.
The same scenario.
And using this Cloaking technologies.
And I experienced that too in an apartment in Hollywood.
I could feel somebody was at least one person.
I could see something.
Just after I'd been covertly drugged, I don't know how it happened, whether it was something I drank or whether it was alcohol.
Whether the drug was painted onto something that I touched and it was absorbed transdermally.
I don't know how, but I realized that in the initial effects, in the initial point of being drugged, perhaps sprayed with whatever the drug was, that I could feel that there were people in the room and I could feel and hear people Whispering in the room around me, but I couldn't really see them.
And under the effects of this drug, it made it very difficult for me to determine.
But I knew that people were there in the room with me.
Okay, so have you, I mean, have you ever tried to, I don't know, you know, have...
Some kind of retaliation towards these people if they are in such close proximity to you and you're saying it's so...
Happening so often.
I mean, I don't know if you explained, but you're still in the state of California, but you're no longer in Hollywood.
Is that correct?
Oh, no, no.
Right now, I'm in North Carolina.
That only happened to me.
To me personally, I only experienced that cloaking, the advanced camouflage, the invisibility cloaking.
I only experienced that in the very beginning of my targeting.
When I was being abducted about 10 different times, I experienced that same scenario happen to me.
And I haven't experienced it recently, although other people, women, are experiencing this.
At least they're reporting to me, and that's happening to them on a regular basis.
But now I have set up a system around my house, wherever I am, Through remote cameras that I have hidden around my apartment that are activated by body heat and motion detection.
And I also have digital voice recorders around my residence now.
So it makes it more difficult for that to happen.
And also, too, with the organized stalking, Targeted individuals will receive on a regular basis people unforced break-ins into their residence usually damaging or vandalizing their property in what's known as small but noticeable damage that's being done in particular to clothing and linens and furniture
are Seem to be very popular with this criminal group.
Most targeted individuals that I know experience that to some degree to their vehicle, always in areas where you're going to look, in spots that you're going to notice.
That's why it's called small but noticeable damage.
Okay.
So in terms of I guess I want to back up a little.
So this started, you said, did you say eight years ago?
I first became aware of it in 2008, just about exactly ten years ago.
The organized stalking, when I look back, started as early as 2001, shortly after 9-11.
I was experiencing the organized stalking, vehicles parked outside of my apartment following me, knocking and banging on the walls by the other occupants in my apartment building.
What I call in the first book is a noise campaign, constantly People flushing toilets and slamming doors and fireworks going off.
Cocks clunking their horns.
What I want to know is was this right after the accident that you were participating in or what was the timeline?
How long since the accident that you were participating in?
That happened to me.
The accident happened to me a long time ago when I was 19.
But this didn't happen to me.
I'm 56 right now.
So I would say it happened to me as early as my late 30s that the organized stalking started.
And then about 10 years ago when I was 46, the abductions and the The implantation of these advanced biomedical devices throughout my body.
That happened about 10 years ago.
Okay, I don't remember if you actually mentioned it, but have you had, I don't know, do you have photos of these devices?
Were you able to actually, you know, have you been able to see them?
Are they obvious?
Do you have implants that are obvious or not?
Yes, yes.
Actually, the scars that I have, in my first book I included all of my medical evidence, all in MRIs and ultrasounds, all clearly showing foreign objects directly beneath these covert surgery scars.
Every single person that I've examined, and I've examined thousands since this happened to me, has some version of these scars.
Whether they know about this crime, whether they're targeted individuals, whether they're perpetrators, even the perpetrators that lived in my apartment complexes in California that I knew were involved in this crime, all The hallmark scars, especially some of them are very easy to find.
I'd say that the easiest ones to find are the ones behind your ears, which anyone can find using another mirror.
If you stand in front of a bathroom mirror, for instance, and you take another mirror And you pull back your ear and hold this mirror back.
When you look in the reflection, you can see behind your own ear and you'll see on both sides that always I've noticed there's a pattern in the scars.
Always one side is a little bit easier to see than the other.
One is more pronounced than the other.
They're not exactly the same.
And the other place that's always very easy for me to find on every single person I've examined It's right here between the thumb and the forefinger.
If you go back about two inches to this spot approximately, and you look in natural sunlight, preferably in the morning, and you look carefully in this spot, you will find very tiny, either a linear scar, very small, there'll be like a white line, or an X, or a V, Or a couple of tiny little white markings.
But you'll see them on both sides.
They're corresponding and symmetrical.
And if you can find those scars, you're going to find other scars generally in the same places on both sides, on the wrists, on the elbows, throughout your body.
The more you look, once you, for people that don't know, a lot of people have had this happen to them regularly.
And are unaware of it.
It may not have occurred to them the same way it occurred to me with abductions, but it may have also...
The other possibility is with when people go in for elective or any kind of medical procedure where they're put under general anesthesia or when they go to the dentist.
This is another...
Or even a vaccine.
These are all opportunities for people to be implanted.
Without their knowledge, without their permission, without their consent.
Okay, now, what have you done in terms of allowing people to examine you?
And also, do you have doctors that you go to?
Or do you, at this time, for example, because you say you're examining others and they're coming to you.
In other words, did you have help?
To get into this position where you're sort of looking at it objectively, standing back.
Do you have experts in the field that you're working with?
There's one called Dr.
John Hall.
Did you work with him?
In other words, and also the other question I don't want to forget to ask you has to do with basically alien abduction.
Does this work into your scenario in your understanding or not?
Well, To answer your first question, I have met Dr.
John Hall and I showed him my MRIs and he, as a doctor, could clearly see the foreign objects that appear as white dots throughout my MRIs.
And you don't have to be a radiologist.
To see these things.
I understand.
A child can see these.
Yeah, but that's not actually my question.
My question was whether you had worked with any of these people, whether you had consulted with them, or did you just suddenly start investigating on your own?
Well, I mean, I talked to Dr.
John Hall.
I met with him two days in San Antonio, Texas, ten years ago.
When this first happened to me and also I mean I remember after my abductions the actual scars from the implants were fresh so I could see them and I became I didn't know what had happened to me at that point but I knew that I'd been operated on.
I know that surgeries were performed on me.
I had these scars and then Where I had these scars, I started finding more scars on my own.
And when I examined other people, I noticed that other people had the exact same scar patterns that I had in the same places, whether they were targeted individuals or whether they were just regular, ordinary people that knew nothing about this crime.
Okay, but I guess, you know, I'm not sure, you know, in terms of focus.
So you didn't actually work with anyone to develop your sort of technique of looking at all of this other than your own experience.
For the most part, I understand you met with John Hall for two days, but we're talking years and years of research, it sounds like.
So is most of your research then something you conduct on your own and no one else is involved?
Well, I have to be honest.
When this first happened to me, there was not a book like the ones that I've written, the two books that I've written.
Books like that did not exist.
Dr.
John Hall wrote a book about being a target individual, but he wrote it differently than I did.
I wrote it From my personal experience, and I included all of my MRIs and all of my findings, the books that I wrote did not exist.
And that was part of the motivation for me.
And all of my research that I've done on my own did not exist.
There was no people to really consult.
There were experts in the field other than this ex-CIA agent that I met when I was in California.
And private investigators that I had met.
Outside of that, there really was no published research on this kind of experimentation.
These implanted, non-consensual, non-therapeutic biomedical devices.
There was no...
Nobody had written a book like that.
And that was part of the motivation for me wanting to write my books.
To help other people understand what I'd learned.
What about a therapist that would sort of reverse, you know, give you, you know, where you did going back in time to see what happened to you, that sort of thing?
You know, any kind of hypnosis?
I didn't have any...
Hypnosis done to me by any psychiatrist or psychologist.
I didn't have any of that.
Most of the things that I've written about, I remember.
I have, as I describe in both of my books, one of the things that I was fortunate enough to be born with is something called a photographic memory.
So I have the ability to remember in great detail some things that most people remember.
Maybe most people don't have that ability or it's not quite as sharp as the one that I have to be able to compartmentalize a specific memory whether it was an event like an abduction and in pieces of my abduction where the parts of my abductions that I describe in the first book that I remember Are
places where the drug that they had given me was wearing off.
The time in between druggings is the times that I was able to remember.
When I was under whatever they'd given me under the full effects, whether it was anesthesia or scopolamine or whatever drug they'd given me, when I was under its full effects, those parts I don't remember.
So I only remember bits and pieces.
But I haven't had any kind of recovery hypnosis done to me.
Okay.
Now, what about the alien abduction side of things?
Do you recall whether or not any of this ever involved what we call aliens, etc., etc.?
No.
I'd have to say that in all of my abductions that I remember, there were people.
And sometimes, during some of the abductions, I remember the people were wearing masks, but I could clearly, even though I was under the influence of whatever drug they'd given me, I could clearly see that they were people that were wearing masks.
And also, I wanted to say that this conspiracy That I've written about, nothing is bigger than this.
If there are aliens, if there is an alien conspiracy, if that conspiracy exists, it takes a backseat to this conspiracy.
This is superglued to the ceiling.
Nothing is bigger than this conspiracy.
This involves the entire human race.
Okay well that's I guess a matter of opinion but I appreciate your coming forward with that.
So you talk about transhumanism in your book you say and how does this relate to perhaps your being a target or what what is your experience with that with that?
Well transhumanism is really the idea of Of human beings evolving beyond normal physical and psychological limitations through science and technology.
And one of the things that I've written about in the new book, Transhumanism, pushing a human being to the next level, I believe.
And also, it's also certainly one part of, in my research, the transhumanism aspect.
One aspect of it is, part of it is also referred to as the super soldier program.
And that involves, at this point, experimenting in my research on people.
And through science and technology...
Pushing them to the next level, whether it's their awareness, whether increasing, enhancing their capabilities.
And I mean, for myself, I can give you a couple of examples.
I noticed that at some points I noticed for sure that I have very acute Mental clarity beyond the normal range that I would experience.
For short periods of time, sometimes I experience extreme mental clarity.
I would compare it to the effects of the drug in the movie Limitless called NZT40. Whatever experiments are being done to me, through frequencies, this is being done remotely to me, this experimentation, through frequencies interacting with the biomedical implants.
And for short periods of time, I have experienced, I've also experienced mental clarity, I've also experienced memory fogging or I can be talking to someone, and in the middle of the sentence, I'll forget what I'm talking about.
And sometimes that happens to people.
But in my experience, this is something, especially during an interview like this, I'll be under what I would refer to as heavy attack.
Of these frequencies, of this remotely induced mind control that's certainly affecting me to the point where I'm aware of it.
And also, there'll be periods of time where I will want to sleep, but I can't sleep.
And it almost feels as though sleep is not necessary.
That is that specific in my research.
To experience that, that's something that would be a hallmark of the super soldier program.
Having soldiers, for instance, out in the battlefield being able to fight with less sleep or to have extremely acute mental acuity and In the battlefield and to increase their awareness, their abilities.
This is something that I believe that is being experimented on me remotely, illegally, that part of human experimentation, just to let people know the level of...
This is really...
It's a crime against humanity And the people that are responsible, the people that are to be held accountable, that are behind my specific targeting, if they were convicted, they would face capital punishment, the death penalty, much as the Nazis did in World War II. That's the serious...
I mean, that's how serious this crime is.
It's beyond any ordinary crime that people...
And it's unlike any other crime in that it's constant and continuous, whereas other crimes happen once or twice.
But once a person becomes a targeted individual, generally it's a life sentence.
It's something that happens to them forever, for the rest of their lives.
I have not heard of one person that was a targeted individual that was under Okay, now let me ask you if you,
you know, because it seems that you kind of put a lot of things into this category, and I'm wondering whether or not you're aware that we're moving into from 3D into 4D. That there is a spiritual aspect to some of the changes that the human body is going through at this time.
And that it is also possible for you to eventually fight off a lot of these effects.
Have you encountered that line of thought?
And do you entertain the possibility that some of this may be And I can tell you that it is, you know, for whether you agree or not is another matter.
But, you know, in other words, that some of the transition we are going through as humans is actually causing some of these changes.
Some of the parts of space we're going through, the electromagnetism that is bombarding us at this time, in this particular part of the galaxies, For example, is affecting us as well as the changes on the Sun and other planets, etc.
So do you wrap that into your understanding?
I do understand that.
I don't really talk as much about the spiritual aspect in the book, but it's something that I'm very aware of.
And many people, including yourself, have told me that it's...
That it's a spiritual change that we're going through.
And certainly you'd have to say that the spiritual entities that are behind the people that are behind this crime certainly are demonic and evil.
And also I describe in the new book that this is a crime Where people are being controlled by people who are in turn being controlled by other people.
And it continues to go up.
And entities as well, as it happens.
Entities could be considered as well, yes.
Okay, can I ask you, did you have a religious background when you were a child?
Yes, I grew up...
In Connecticut, and we went to church on a regular basis.
I went to Sunday school.
What kind of religious?
Episcopal, part of the Protestant religion.
Okay.
And then in terms of your family and your bloodline, do you feel that you come from an Illuminati bloodline?
I couldn't really say for sure.
Some people have told me that I have, but But I don't really know for sure, to be honest.
Well, your last name, is this English?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
And do your ancestors come from England?
Yes.
Okay, so highly likely.
Are your parents, I can't remember, did you say your parents are living?
Yes, they're both alive.
And are they aware of what's happening to you, or happened?
Yes, they're aware of what's happened to me.
They don't really understand it.
When I try to explain what's happened to me to people, I usually get one of three reactions.
Most likely, most of the people either don't believe me and they feel that I'm delusional.
That's the most common thing that most people don't understand about this crime.
Number two, people, because I've done so much research and I have so much evidence and proof in my medical images that I've published in both books and the scars that I'm able to find on these people that they're not able to have any answer as to why they have these scars that I usually point out to them that they were completely unaware of.
So I get some people that believe me, but they're still a little skeptical because it just seems almost too much to believe.
And then I have a third group, which is the smallest group of people which believe me and are completely terrified.
And also, I have to say that it's difficult for people to believe that target individuals are terrified.
A victim of a crime, using advanced classified technologies.
Well, I mean, I appreciate that, but because I'm Project Camelot, perhaps, you know, I've interviewed a number of people like yourself, and that's a growing number around the world all the time, and people are writing books now on a regular basis about this, so it's becoming much more commonplace to understand all of this.
And in fact, if you want to look at this big deal that's being made in the Trump administration and by the people in, I guess, the Democratic side, also highlighting this so-called FISA memo, which is supposedly coming out today, you know, this is all about the surveillance of Americans, per se.
And I can say that we're very well aware that, for example, the NSA goes over and spies on the English and the English in turn spy on us to to sort of avoid rules and laws that say you're not supposed to spy on your own people.
And they're also sort of sidetracking that.
And they also go way beyond it and have been breaking that law for many, many years as well.
Snowden's disclosures told us years ago about what Camelot believes is the tip of the iceberg in terms of human spying on each other and what's been going on with the government spying on the people.
And the other thing is television, the advent of television Since the 60s, I think that's when it was, or the late 50s, from then on, humans were spied on by their governments and by agencies and so on and so forth.
So this has got a very long history, and MKUltra has been documented and is in the public domain, and that was just like the well-known part of all of that.
So in a certain sense, what you're talking about It builds upon that.
And of course, the advent of the internet and cell phones and cameras proliferating all over the...
I mean, I understand where you're saying some people find it hard to believe, but the evidence is so extensive at this point that even people in governments, for example, the...
I forget her name, but...
You know, the woman who runs Germany or has been, you know, she was there is a big, you know, to do over she was being spied on by the American government and she found out about it.
So, in other words, this kind of thing is going on constantly.
So I appreciate where you've come from.
You've obviously done a lot of heavy lifting yourself and really, you know, it's kudos to you for putting this together on your own as much as you seem to have done.
It seems that you're a very strong individual with a lot of, you know, self-reliance in order to compile the evidence that you have on your own.
And at least from what you're telling me, you seem to have worked for the most part on your own.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Yeah, so that's quite extraordinary.
So what I want to do now, we've been going for a while.
I would like to take some questions from the chat if it's all right with you.
Sure.
Sure, I welcome that.
Okay, great.
For people in the chat, I'm looking at the chat now, and what I'd like you to do is put your question in all caps.
Just so you know, we have a large audience and a lot of people in the chat room, so what happens when you have that is the chat goes by really rapidly, and it's really hard to catch even or slow it down, and so...
Would people maybe stop chatting for a moment and allow people to put their questions in, assuming you have questions.
Someone wants to know if you have a science background or a military background.
And I'd also like to expand that to say, does your family have a science or military background?
I don't have a science or military background other than what I've had to research since this happened to me.
My father was in the service in the Navy for two years before I was born.
But that's about the extent of the military involvement in our family.
And what about science?
Do your parents, are they in professions or were they in professions related to science or anything else that might, you know, shed some light on your targeting?
My father's family was involved in industrial textiles, and one of their plants manufactured Kevlar.
That's interesting.
Kevlar is a very important thing for the secret space program, obviously.
All right.
So let me see if there's any other questions that I can see in here.
And again, it's very challenging to kind of scroll through this morass of stuff.
So if you have a question, please do put it in all caps.
It's just, it's been going on nonstop.
I'm sorry, I can't see any.
I know there must be some questions here, so...
You just bear with me.
In the meanwhile, why don't you give out your website?
Okay, I have two websites.
www.invisiblecrime.com is one and I have a brand new website www.michaelfbell.com and my books are available through Amazon, Barnes& Noble and wherever fine books are sold.
Okay, very good.
And are you speaking at any conferences or any of this sort of thing?
I haven't.
I would love to have the opportunity.
I haven't done that.
I have had a couple of people ask me if I'd be interested in doing something like that, and I definitely would.
I want to be as much of a A whistleblower as I possibly can in terms of exposing this crime that really has everyone in its target.
Literally, every single person.
There's no other crime that can compare to this crime that I've written about in The Invisible Crime and The Invisible Crime Part 2.
Okay, someone is asking if you...
Let's see.
Do you constantly experience your mind being red?
I think they're saying.
Yes.
Well, I have to say that the synthetic telepathy that I've written about in the second book, Invisible Crime Part II, a targeted individual synthetic telepathy and global criminal biomedical human experimentation,
the synthetic telepathy that I've written about is a bi-directional information process Between a human being's mind and a supercomputer which would allow a supercomputer to read and to translate a
human being's brainwaves in real time into words As well as putting back influence back into the human brain in real time.
So you're talking about classified technologies that are being used to decipher the brain waves of a human being and to translate them into words so that the person or the persons or the group that is behind this crime Are able to read a person's thoughts in real time as they're formed as
well as putting back influence and perhaps even changing a person's mind or as I described in the new book dream manipulation and urge induction and changing a person's emotions.
If you can change A person's emotions, over time, you can essentially change that person completely.
Okay, very good point.
So, let's see.
Someone is asking whether or not, I guess what they are trying to ascertain for themselves is, what are the signs that someone is being targeted?
Ultimately, you know, a targeted individual...
Can't avoid knowing that they're being targeted, but I'm assuming that the person asking the question feels that if it's more subtle and that people may write it off as something that's happening to everyone, if it's not so targeted, specific, so that it, you know, I'm like...
Disappearing for eight days or whatever it is.
In other words, do you want to address some of the telltale signs that a person might look for?
Yes.
Well, certainly targeted individuals are being overtly being made aware that they're being targeted.
And the perpetrators in this case I want them to know.
That's part of the trauma that they experience on a regular basis is that they're never unaware that they're under surveillance and they're constantly being made to be aware of that fact.
But people, what I think, I mean, you're talking about targeted individuals in a chapter in the new book I have called The Statistics Are Staggering.
When you're looking at a global population of 7.5 billion people, targeted individuals are estimated to be 1% at this point of the population.
So 1% of 7.5 billion is 75 million people.
And also in my research, even further than that, The people that are hard targets or signature targets are the 1% of the 1%.
At an even higher level of targeting, that's approximately 750,000 people globally, worldwide.
But those are the people that know that this is happening to them.
They know that they're part of a program.
They know that they're being experimented on.
I think that there's also a large percent of the population already that have been implanted and are being surveillanced and manipulated through a variety of different mediums including television.
Without them even being aware that it's happening.
Yes, I have to say there's a huge, you know, it's a mass.
Certainly cell phones are a device through which they are targeting.
And this is around the world, individuals at will, really.
And, you know, in general, I would say, as well as television, of course, and the Internet.
You can't get around that and social media, etc.
Somebody is saying, you know, telephones ringing in their head, I think he's talking about, or just a ringing sound and computers shutting down.
I think when you, you know, there are also signs of what we call, you know, alien abduction signs that are very similar to targeted individual signs.
So you can have scars on your body, as you've kind of mentioned, but But scoop marks specifically for alien abductions.
You can also have missing time, obviously.
You can find yourself affecting street lights, I do, and turning them off or on.
And also other machinery.
And certainly computers and so on.
And then the ringing in the ears, that's often, my understanding, has to do with also a form of alien abduction.
But you may also experience that to do with human abduction and or targeting.
Yeah, I mean, that's so common that, I mean...
Recently, you'll even see commercials on television for a product that is specifically designed for ringing in the ears.
And I'm thinking, my gosh, that's for the people like me who have, as I said, an extremely loud electronic sound or ringing in the ears constantly.
And I'm thinking...
You know, that's something that can occur.
Tinnitus can occur to some people.
But, I mean, when it's happening on such a mass level where they're actually now promoting it on commercials, it's so common now.
You have to think that there must be something else that's going on here beyond just normal tinnitus.
Well, yes.
They call it electronic smog for one thing.
There is a very high level of, if you will, kind of a buzzing coming from the earth where you have power lines and you've got computers.
There is an electronic signature that is being read even off-planet with various machinery and so on that they can see hot zones of just nothing but electronics.
In a sense, the matrix in a really graphic way.
And it's noticeable, of course, if you go into nature, how it quiets down.
Assuming you're able to get out of a heavily targeted area.
So, yeah, that's very real.
I'm wondering, I'm seeing if there's anything...
Some people want to know if you have devised yourself any methods to heal yourself.
Yes, that's a great question.
Through my research and my personal experience, I use several different techniques to help me survive.
I certainly, in the new book, I describe three things that I have to do every single day to survive.
I have to get some exercise every single day.
That's really important for everyone, but particularly important for targeted individuals that tend to be isolated and shut into one residence for most of the time, only going out when necessary.
Whereas before, they used to like to go out and go to the movies and go for a walk and just be outside.
They tend to be more reclusive.
And so getting exercise is certainly one of the things.
Number two is I have to remember that no matter how bad my situation is, someone, somewhere is having it much worse and has had it much worse.
You look at some of the survivors from the Holocaust and what they went through.
And how terrible that must have been.
So no matter how bad your situation is, you have to remind yourself that someone has always had it worse or is having it worse than you do.
So you have to remind yourself of that.
And also, it's important for me to at least have one good laugh every single day.
That's really important for everyone, but especially if you're a targeted individual where there's really Not much to laugh about.
You really need to find something to divert yourself and to find humor and to give yourself a little bit of happiness, even if briefly, every single day that's important.
And also, in my second book, I also describe Using technology to fight technology, and I have something that's called an earthing device that I use all the time that plugs in directly into the wall and taps into the building's grounding.
So that reduces the amount of electronic assaults that I have.
It doesn't eliminate them, but it certainly reduces their effect over time and helps reduce the amount of free radicals In my body and helps to strengthen my immune system.
And also, I use a neodymium, very powerful rare earth magnet to wherever I'm getting attacked, wherever I'm being targeted on my body.
I'll use one of these extremely powerful.
The one I use is a 400-pound pull force neodymium magnet with a purity grade of 52.
So it's about as high as you can possibly get as a citizen to buy that.
And they're really easy and inexpensive.
But it's very effective because the magnet itself has such a powerful magnetic field that it's able to disrupt the frequencies that are coming and going in my body.
And really, this crime would be impossible to achieve without, at least in my case, the biomedical implants that...
They're an absolutely necessary part of my experimentation, my targeting.
And so it involves frequencies.
And these neodymium magnets are so strong and so powerful that they're able to disrupt the frequency with their magnetic fields.
And that's very important to Help regaining your health as well as reducing the amount of torture that's being thrust upon you as a targeted individual.
Okay, very good.
Yes, and I just want to say that there are a few others that I recommend, which is walking on the earth barefoot, so that you can get the natural elements and get rid of the electronic smog.
You have to do it every day.
And so, also, if you haven't lived by a beach, obviously, that's the ideal place to go.
Now, there's also...
Doing things to, in other words, if you have wireless, maybe you become, you reduce your internet to a, have a line kind of thing where you have to plug in.
The other thing is, as I unplug my wireless at night, that helps.
Another thing you can do is, I mean, there are so many things you can do, actually.
You can immerse yourself in water, for example.
Water can also diffuse some of these energies, also with what they call Epsom salts or organic sort of oils and salts.
And also using those organic oils on your skin can also...
Detract and using massage.
This is also a great way to deal with it.
There's various things like, you know, that may or may not be recommended, but you can drink milk or something that is natural that allows you to calm yourself like hot teas, certain herbal teas, these kinds of things.
And, you know, there's...
There's meditation, of course.
There's crystals and also rocks with lots of crystalline in them can absorb the negativity.
So you can actually place the Chinese do this, which is where I learned it.
I was doing it anyway, but where I found out that it's sort of an orthodox Chinese way of medicine.
They place rocks and sometimes they heat them.
On different parts of your body and they will pull out the negative energies that have been put into your body.
So that's another healing method.
There's really, you know, there's so many things you can do.
Another thing that recently I think is very recommended is using...
I'm not sure what probiotics and also there's this thing called prebiotics.
So what it does is it puts different kinds of enzymes and microbes into your stomach because a lot of people are eating really terrible foods, junk foods, etc., etc., and all that contains GMOs and The chemtrails, of course, isn't also a piece of it.
In fact, some people were asking if you want to talk about chemtrails at all, and I also want to ask you about AI and how AI works in with this.
Have you started to look down that road?
Yes, I wanted to talk about...
Well, obviously, I'm aware of the chemtrails, but also something I didn't mention is that I have...
What's another unacknowledged special access program believed to be part of the biomedical weapons program is something called Morgellons disease which I have which is an uncommon unacknowledged skin disorder that's experienced by a small percentage of targeted individuals And it's believed
to be a man-made pathogen or a synthetic worm that lives inside its human host and often can give the victim certain symptoms like lesions that refuse to heal, Other things that I read about in the new book are these things that I describe in the new book.
If you Google this, Morgellons disease cocoons, it's something that I don't know of anyone else that's described this or have photographed them, but these are tiny,
unidentified fiber spools that are found Within my residence, wherever I live, no matter how much I vacuum, these tiny little unidentified fiber spools can be found throughout my residence on the floor.
And I had a North Carolina Agricultural Center try to analyze some of these.
I gave them some of these, what I call Morgellons disease cocoons, to analyze.
And they were not able to...
They didn't know what it was.
They'd never seen anything like it before.
It was an unidentified fiber to them.
But that's something that I write about in the new book.
Okay.
And then what about, and we're going to have to close this down because we've been going for a while, but just briefly, if you have considered the link up between the implants and artificial intelligence.
Yes, certainly.
Certainly, I believe that I'm very aware that what's happening to me and I'm aware that I'm constantly being programmed,
at least I'm aware of and certainly unnatural thoughts to me that are happening to me that seem to be in connection with a I'm aware of some artificial form of intelligence that's being forced upon me,
specifically in my dream manipulation.
That's certainly something that a lot of targeted individuals experience.
Other people Right.
Well, I think that's a good point.
I do think that there is a lot of research to be done in this area of dream manipulation coming from an external source.
And I think that few people are talking about it, but I think it's important.
There's also a great deal of manipulation, you know, that happens by the secret government and so on to do with the astral.
So it's not only your physical body that is being targeted, but also in the astral.
And so this is a whole...
The super soldiers acknowledge this and are aware of it.
And it's kind of...
It's a whole different part of the subject, but it's still a very important one.
And a lot of things are going on in the astral.
And the closer we get to moving in wholly and completely into 4D, the more this kind of thing will also go on.
Now, let me just say something about it.
This has to do with a...
A preparing of the human race to understand who they truly are and the power of spirit over the material reality.
And as we become less material in our nature and moving up through, it's a form of, you might call it ascension.
In essence, we are becoming less dense and we are, this kind of challenge that we're facing Is part and parcel, I believe, of the awakening process.
So it's really to own up to and understand that you do have the power to surmount all of this.
And that means in every single way possible.
But it does rely on the development of your spiritual sort of nature and understanding the power of spirit and soul to endure and so on.
So...
That's my point of view.
Do you want to have some closing remarks?
Because this has been very fascinating.
I'm sure, judging from the size of the audience, there's a lot of people that have been quite interested in what you have to say.
Do you want to close down with some remarks that would sum things up and maybe say where you're going in the future with all of it?
Yeah.
Just to let people know that How many people already that this is affected in my new book, in my research, and through my personal research and findings?
Certainly the biomedical implants are so widespread right now that it's estimated that as many as a third, some people are even estimating as many as half Of all Americans, 50%, some people are making this estimate.
I'd say it's a very wide percentage, certainly, have already been implanted with RFID technology without their knowledge, without their permission, without their consent, already done to them.
And people are even unaware that this has already happened to them.
So there's a huge wide, that's how widespread this is.
And how big this secret is, really the biggest secret in the world right now.
I can't think of anything that's bigger than this.
Okay.
So again, could you give your websites out?
And if people wanted to write to you, do you have an email address or a contact form on your sites or how do you do that?
I have a contact form on both of my websites.
My first book is The Invisible Crime, Illegal Microchip Implants and Microwave Technology and Their Use Against Humanity.
The second book is The Invisible Crime, Part 2, A Targeted Individual, Synthetic Telepathy and Global Criminal Biomedical Human Experimentation.
My two websites are www.invisiblecrime.com and then I have a brand new website, www.michaelfbell.com.
And my books are also available through Amazon, Barnes& Noble, and wherever fine books are sold.
Okay, lovely.
All right.
Well, thank you, Michael.
It's been fascinating.
And, you know, I think it's really lovely and inspiring to see somebody who is Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me as a guest on Camelot.
Project Camelot, I'm very, very honored to be on your show.
And I know your motto, one whistleblower at a time.
I think it's a wonderful show.
I'm so glad that this subject matter is finally getting some exposure and getting some attention, which it sorely needs.
So thank you so much, Carrie.
Thank you very much for having me on the show.
All right.
Okay, I'm going to let you go and just say some closing remarks and we'll close down the whole thing here.
So goodbye and have a good weekend.
Thank you.
You too.
Thank you.
Take care.
All right.
So that was Michael.
And I'm not even going to be able to quite say his middle fits.
I'm not sure how he said his middle name, but Bell, F. Bell.
And I encourage you to get his book to support his work.
Obviously, he's a real warrior doing a lot of this on his own and under great duress.
So Thank you so much for watching and for being part of the show today and for the good questions in the chat and we'll be back next week.
I'm going to have Simon Parks on Tuesday so stay tuned for that and that should be fascinating.
It's been a while since Simon and I had a chance to get together and talk about current events and another thing that's happening is on Monday Maria Wheatley will be on the show with me and that will be Let's see, Monday at 1 o'clock and then Tuesday at 1 p.m.
and both at Pacific Time.
So Maria Wheatley and I will be talking about our upcoming trip to Egypt.
We need a certain number of people in order to make it a green light, as they say.
So I encourage you, if you're interested, to go to my events page on my website and sign up and pay the deposit.
And we're trying to garner together a good group to go over to Egypt In the spring, April 4th through the 14th.
And we're also going to go for a couple days to Petra in Jordan.
And if you know Petra, it's an amazing place.
So thanks for watching and take care.
And we'll see you, I guess, next week.
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