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Oct. 12, 2017 - Project Camelot

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REMOTE VIEWING AREA 51 & TUNGUSKA : COURTNEY BROWN & DAZ SMITH

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	Thank you.
	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very excited tonight to have two very illustrious guests.
	We have Courtney Brown and Daz Smith, both remote viewers.
	And Courtney is, I think he will define that for us, but I think he's sort of the handler, the initiator.
	And Daz Smith is one of the viewers.
	And we've decided to cover, generally speaking, two topics tonight.
	One is Area 51, which they did a session or a number of sessions on with several viewers.
	And the other is Tunguska, the Tunguska event.
	This is an event back in history when, well, there's conflicting points of view as to what actually happened.
	But it created a huge kind of crater.
	It decimated a part of Russia, and actually, Valery Uvarov, who I've interviewed in the past, has referred to this, and he and a Russian team have done a lot of investigation there.
	That is a side issue, but if you're interested, you could find my Valery Uvarov Interview on my Project Camelot YouTube channel and check out what he has to say about that.
	That interview is well worth seeing regardless.
	So what I'm going to do here now is bring both guys on the screen and hopefully this will all go smoothly.
	So hi guys.
	You want to say hello to everyone?
	Well, Daz is here, and I'm here.
	I'm Courtney, and hello, everyone.
	Thank you very much, Craig, for inviting us on your show, too.
	Okay, well, it's a pleasure to have both of you, and this is a fascinating subject, no doubt about it, and I really appreciate the subjects you're covering at this time, Courtney.
	I think you're doing a great job, and obviously, your viewers are doing a great job, and it's great to have at least one viewer Join us this evening.
	I was hoping possibly to get Aziz at least and even Dick Algar, but it's not easy to get people all together in one place at one time.
	Maybe we can check in with them at a later date.
	So at this time, Courtney, what I'd like you to do is introduce yourself and your project briefly for those people who are not familiar with remote viewing and what you've been doing for actually several years now and your team.
	And of course, Daz Smith is one of them.
	Great.
	Well, Daz is one of our great remote viewers.
	Actually, he's one of the planet's great remote viewers.
	Now, I do want to warn you in advance that Daz does not like to be complimented like that overtly.
	He's more modest than I am.
	But since he's going to correct me anyway, I might as well say what I need to say so he can fully correct me.
	He is literally one of the best remote viewers on the planet Earth.
	And there's only a few.
	We're talking five, six people that can do anything at this level.
	Das was one of the original early pioneers in making remote viewing go to the next level.
	So there's been remote viewing going on in the military, going back, and the official program in the military, the first program ended in November of 1995.
	However, the level of the proficiency That was ever discussed publicly.
	It doesn't come anywhere close to what we have now.
	And DAS is a premier type of remote viewer that is at that level of proficiency that my understanding is it just didn't exist before.
	So I am Courtney Brown, director of the Farsight Institute, and that's a non-profit.
	For those interested, it's www.farsight, F-A-R-S-I-G-H-T, like seeingfar.org, because we're a non-profit.
	And we are the only venue.
	I can say we're the biggest and the best because we're the only.
	We're the only venue where you have these full public projects under clearly controlled, scientifically controlled conditions, totally blind, remote viewing, so that people can see the projects, see the data, data verification, the whole works, and see the results.
	We risk everything every time we come out.
	And there are lots of other remote viewers out there, but there's no place where you get these full public projects.
	And Daz is one of the people that helped make that happen.
	Dick Elgeier is great.
	He's in Hawaii.
	Aziz Brown right now is in Asia, so that's why he had a little trouble connecting up with here.
	So, you know, we have these full projects, and remote viewing, of course, is a mental procedure that was developed originally by the United States military and used for spying espionage purposes, but we use it for scientific purposes to investigate new things.
	We have no secrets.
	All of our projects are public, and on our website we have a huge list of Projects including everything from the 9-11 events, the Kennedy assassinations, the psychology of Adolf Hitler, some extraterrestrial UFO type of targets, projects as well.
	They're the only place in the world that you can get these types of investigations.
	Again, we're not trying to yell at people and say you must believe our results.
	We're saying these are our results.
	This is how we did it.
	These are the conditions.
	Chew on that.
	You think about it.
	The main reason we're doing what we're doing is because it's fun.
	Honestly, Kerry, if you're really having a miserable time, you stop.
	I think Des would agree with this, that what we do is exciting.
	I don't know how long we're going to keep on doing it, but as far as I'm concerned, it's an ongoing adventure.
	And we do it primarily because it's enjoyable to do.
	And I don't think of anything more exciting that could be done on the planet Earth right now.
	Because we're talking about a planetary change.
	Once remote viewing becomes fully accepted as real, all of the academy has to change.
	Okay, the course is on French and Spanish.
	They're not going to change.
	But all the physics is going to change.
	Social sciences are going to change.
	Everything is going to change.
	And the way people look at reality, after death, before death, the physical existence, all that's going to change.
	And we're literally pushing that along.
	So that's as exciting as I can think I'm getting.
	Anyway, you talked about Area 51 in Tunguska.
	Area 51 is that secret military base in Nevada.
	And it's always been secret.
	And I have to admit, I am a liar in this one case.
	I normally don't lie, but I do lie here.
	When people ask me what we're going to do, I make a special note on radio to lie through my teeth and say, oh, we'll never do Area 51.
	Because I know Dick and Daz and others are listening.
	I have to convince absolutely everyone that we'll never touch Area 51 because the government would come down on us.
	They're not going to want us to do that.
	I don't want to get in trouble.
	And after I'm totally convinced that absolutely everybody leaves, we would never touch Area 51.
	Boom!
	That's when I'll hit them with Area 51.
	Because these viewers are at a level that once they get there, they're going to start recognizing it right away.
	And so to keep them blind, they have to say, But Courtney said it on radio and everything.
	It can't be Area 51.
	But they see the Groom Lake thing.
	They see the runways.
	They see the buildings.
	They see the...
	Why do you hear Dads talk about the elevator that goes down?
	The huge elevator?
	It's described identically by all three viewers.
	And just going down the elevator and getting the different levels?
	You know, I mean, pretty soon he would say, this is Area 51.
	So I have to really convince them that This cannot be for them to stay blind.
	And then we did the Tunguska thing, and I have to correct one thing, Kerry, that you mentioned.
	There was no crater.
	That's why it's such a mystery.
	There is no crater.
	There was never a crater.
	It was an aerial explosion, and it was the biggest explosion ever on the planet Earth that we know of in recorded history.
	Somewhere between 10 megatons up to 90 megatons.
	And, like, 10 megatons is 10,000 times the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.
	So, we're talking a really big one.
	Now, the biggest nuclear bomb that ever exploded was the Tsar bomb, which was 50 megatons.
	That was exploded over Russia by the Soviet Union.
	However, this explosion could have been as much as 90 megatons, the Tunguska thing.
	And to have no crater, and like...
	We don't even have meteor fragments on the bottom.
	It's a total mystery for what it is.
	So it was a great thing for us to go in there and figure out what was going on.
	We made a lot of headway on that.
	Okay, yes.
	Well, I wanted to say, just for clarification, that there is a spread out area of destruction, however.
	Absolutely.
	So, for lack of a better word, but yes, I know.
	There's a huge hole in the ground.
	Yes, I understand.
	Although there does seem to be some underground stuff that the viewers tapped into, which is quite interesting.
	All of your findings on both these two targets were quite fascinating, some of which do coincide with information that at least I have had at Project Hamlet for a number of years, and it was interesting to have a corroboration from what you were getting.
	Now, what I wanted you to do here is also clarify your role, Courtney, because you are not the viewer, and I think some people wonder, just what do you do?
	I was fired.
	You see, what happened was, back in the days when we started to do these fully collaborative projects with Taz and Dick and the other groups, I was asked politely, are you going to be remote viewing for these things?
	Like, are you going to do it?
	And what the implication was, was, look, if we're doing the remote viewing, you do the project management.
	So it was clear, and I had heard this from a few people, they basically said, You manage the thing and don't...
	So I haven't remote viewed in Farsight stuff since 19...
	What was it, Des?
	1908?
	No, since...
	1908, that's when Zangosi happened.
	Since like 2005 or 2000 and something like...
	It's been a long time since I... So what I do is I manage the projects.
	I come up with the projects.
	I try to keep the topics...
	I do keep the topics totally secret to everybody.
	And...
	And when I have a project that I think they'll figure out quickly, I precede it with years of public discussions of how we would never touch that project.
	I do whatever I can do to make it so that...
	I mean, it's hard.
	Carrie, just think of it.
	These are the best remote viewers in the world.
	You go into a target when you're that good, you're going to start figuring things out pretty quickly.
	And the worst thing that can happen as a remote viewer is for the remote viewer to say, This is Area 51.
	I can see there's a desert, there's a tunnel going down, there's levels, this is Area 51.
	And then the conscious mind would take over.
	So that's my job, to make sure that there is confused as absolutely possible.
	And so that's what I do.
	And then I'm the final video editor for that.
	You see, we had a problem in...
	No one wanted to come to our rescue and edit all of our videos for us.
	No major studio in Hollywood.
	So we had to learn how to do it ourselves, and it was a long learning curve.
	And it required machines that could do it, which were expensive machines, software, which was expensive software, and then in terms of time, an enormous amount of learning.
	Also, we needed cameras.
	So this took years to sort of put together.
	But I can say that at this point, we're pretty much at the top of our game in terms of the quality of the remote viewing the quality of the video products the video so people can actually see it we're not going to change the world if we look like a bunch of teenagers on a webcam we're going to have to we're going to change the world if these look like professionally done videos professionally done remote viewing well done everything well the perfectly done editing as best you know that's how you change the world where people say this is a serious effort So that's where my role is,
	creating the projects, keeping a secret, writing up this, keeping the web pages in order, making sure that the targets are well specified, and then letting Daz, Dick, Aziz, and soon we're going to be starting up a new series with Princess Shanae and Melina Hall.
	So we've got women being added to the mix, and so That's my job to organize as yours.
	So I don't do the remote viewing.
	I do it myself privately for interesting things that I'm interested in, but I don't do anything remote viewing-wise, personally, in terms of my viewing on Farsight.
	I leave that up to the people that are specialists.
	Let me give you an example.
	I'm a pilot.
	I have a pilot's license.
	I'm so busy with working at the university, doing things with Farsight, doing everything else.
	I don't fly very much.
	I hardly fly at all, okay?
	If I were to get into a plane, the first thing you should do is say, I'm not getting into that plane with Courtney.
	He doesn't fly enough.
	Do you get the idea?
	So, Daz and Dick and Aziz, they remote view all the time.
	They're up to speed.
	They do it.
	They're practiced.
	Whereas, I'm not practiced to do that.
	So, what I am practiced to do is to organize these things.
	But to be a competent remote viewer at Daz's level, you have to do it every day.
	Every month, you have to be involved in it.
	Every month, you have to be involved in it.
	And that's like being a pilot.
	You have to have flight time regularly to be up to speed to this stuff.
	Okay, so what I want to do at this point is, actually, I want to turn it over to Daz for the moment and just get him to give himself a brief introduction.
	And also, Daz, can you kind of talk about, you know, we're covering these particular topics, which is, again, Area 51 and Tunguska.
	But what's starting to crop up in both of these viewings is actually extraterrestrials, ET, or beings.
	And of course you did Roswell, and so I would say that perhaps that also was another instance.
	And the Phoenix Lights, and so on.
	So you're starting to be part of a kind of a different, you know, you guys are kind of branching out, it seems, rather than some of these things that you're covering are actually very controversial right now, what you're finding.
	And it may coincide with what My sector, if you want to call it that, you know, the alternative sector might agree with you, but it does go against the mainstream.
	So I'm just wondering, can you talk along with your introduction just briefly of your own kind of, I don't know, seeing what you're coming across and is that changing your worldview?
	Sure yeah well as everyone knows my name is Daz.
	I've been doing remote viewing now I think for 21 years and I've been trained in the military method of remote viewing called CRV which is quite a rigid kind of way of being intuitive and psychic.
	I was trained From around about the age of 12 in what we call classical psychic techniques.
	So I was trained as a medium, clairvoyant, healer.
	I used to do all the tarot readings, sound readings.
	So I pretty much trained in anything I could get my hands on in the early days.
	I was very young.
	But it was only when I came across remote viewing in 1992 that...
	It just blew me away, really.
	I realized the potential of it way back then.
	I dropped all my other psychic research.
	Ever since then, I've been spending all this time on remote viewing.
	Coincidentally, way back then as well, I was very heavily into UFO research.
	I was a UFO researcher here in the UK. I ran a big UFO website called crowdedskies.com.
	Yeah, it's been interesting over the years how all the projects have now brought out all this extra UFO information, which is information I had read about and investigated for many years, but not touched over the last decade or so, really.
	I shied away from it the last decade or so and spent my entire energy really researching the remote viewing field and studying UFOs.
	Right.
	So is what you're coming across, has it surprised you?
	Has it shocked you, what you see when you're doing your viewing?
	Or do you just roll with it and you're okay with it?
	Yeah, I'm pretty much okay with it.
	As I said, I've kind of encountered, I don't like to class them as aliens.
	I've encountered life forms or extra-dimensional life forms.
	In my psychic journeys away from the age of, I think, 12 onwards.
	So it's kind of a normal thing for me.
	I was lucky enough to be brought up in a household where discussing things like extraterrestrial life or life after death or clairvoyance, all that kind of stuff was the norm.
	It was not seen as being weird in any way.
	So I was lucky in that respect.
	So yeah, the UFO question and the alien questions kind of followed me all these years, really.
	What the remote viewing has luckily done for me is it's just because all the projects are blind and I have no idea what I'm doing at the front and then I find out what the project is at the end it gives me that extra bit of Internal validation for myself because you know I've read I've read about Area 51 for many years now,
	you know I've studied all the documents and books and the same with events like Tunguska and Roswell I've read about read all those seen all the videos like we all have so to do a blind project on it and then get all that data Knowing that it was done blind and done in scientific protocol It just adds to that extra bit of confirmation for me and I know it probably won't for many people out there because they haven't experienced it,
	but for me internally, it just adds that extra dimension of truth to these events that we know have happened.
	Great.
	Yeah, absolutely, and I'm sure of that.
	Well, thank you for that.
	So, at this point, maybe we can have Courtney.
	Courtney, do you want to start with, you know, because we are covering, I guess, two subjects, and I just want to make sure we give a little bit of time to each.
	So, yeah.
	If you want to start out with the Area 51 and the very significant, maybe high points of what people are finding, and then we could have Des obviously comment on his own findings and the discrepancies also between the viewers.
	Because I think there was, if I recall, I saw both of the videos and I can't remember, but I think it was Dick Allgaier who didn't get some of the stuff that the other two both, I think it was Daz and...
	That was Tenguska.
	That was Tenguska.
	Oh, it was Tenguska where they had quite a differing...
	You know, Dick Allgaier only, he did not get any alien UFO type things.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, but actually there wasn't really any separation between us.
	Everything was overlapped.
	The problem was that Dick Allgaier believed at the time, maybe still does, that what he saw was the only thing there, meaning there wasn't anything else.
	So what we did get Everybody got the environment perfect on Tunguska, which was the largely flat, undulating land down below.
	Just trees, barren except for foliage and stuff like that.
	And then they got stuff that was...
	Something came down.
	Everybody got the same thing.
	Something came down and something exploded.
	So there was no problem with that.
	With Dick, he saw...
	A meteor coming down and exploding.
	With Aziz, he saw the same meteor coming down and exploding.
	But it wasn't the primary thing.
	There was also a number of extraterrestrial ships that Aziz saw.
	And one of them sent, from Aziz's session, one of them sent Something down that looked like a like a bomb.
	Oddly, the shape of whatever it was was exactly described by Daz as well.
	Teardrop-shaped.
	The drawings of Daz's and Aziz's teardrop-shaped thing that came down was identical.
	And then Daz focused more on the extraterrestrial elements in it.
	Dick didn't see that at all.
	So, but that doesn't mean Dick was wrong because the thing...
	The thing is that no remote viewer gets everything.
	Otherwise there's no reason to have multiple remote viewers.
	We have three remote viewers because no one remote viewer will get everything.
	Now Dick believes that he saw everything, but I'm the project manager and I know that never happens.
	I've been doing these projects forever and never have we had a situation where Stuff that Dick saw was the only thing there.
	Dad saw other stuff.
	So you get the stuff that Dad sees and Dick sees.
	There's tremendous overlap.
	And you blend them all together into figuring out what's there.
	It's like having reporters.
	You have multiple reporters go out to cover a story.
	One person will go to one side of town and get the riots from the one side.
	The other person will go to the other side of town and get the feedback from the public and the other side to put them all together.
	They're all talking about the riots, but they're getting it from a different perspective.
	We're looking at different things and so on.
	So that's basically what happens.
	So there really wasn't anything like different information.
	There was similar information that was Had tremendous overlap, and then some people saw things that other people didn't.
	Now, Daz in particular, with the Tunguska thing, clearly saw something in space, an extraterrestrial thing in space, and he also saw something come down.
	He thought maybe it was the same thing, but it was coming down.
	He described it perfectly.
	Teardrop shape.
	The thing that really struck me about that is that Aziz described The thing that came down is separating from the object that was in space.
	That's sort of hard to figure out.
	Meaning, if you see something in space as a remote viewer and suddenly you see it coming down, it's not always clear that you see it getting the idea that it separated and came down.
	What you see is something that's up there and then coming down.
	And Dad's focused on it coming down.
	And then I would have been concerned about it if they didn't describe the thing that was coming down.
	As perfectly identical.
	They were this teardrop-shaped thing.
	And then Daz said the decision was made to destroy it.
	And he sort of assumed that that meant that was the same ship and they were trying to destroy the ship with the people in it and so on like that.
	Aziz said the same thing.
	The decision was made to blow it up.
	But it wasn't having the people in it.
	The people were still up above.
	And the idea was it was coming down to blow up something.
	So I, as the manager, had to sort of figure out what was actually going on.
	So the remote viewers, they don't get everything.
	So I had to sort of put it all together.
	We don't have anything that's conflicting in terms of saying one person says one thing and the other person says totally opposite.
	There's all overlap.
	There's some interpretation differences, but they're basically saying something came down, blew up.
	Now the question is, if you're going to say it's just a meteor, let's say you go with the mainstream astronomy perspective, that's sort of what Dick Elgar wants to think.
	Then you say, well, has anything like that happened before where you get these meteors that blow up called bolides?
	Well, yeah, they have lots of bolides that blow up, but nothing produces a 10 to 90 megaton bomb.
	I mean, it doesn't happen.
	So if you listen to a mainstream astronomer, they'll say, oh no, if it comes at an angle rather than If it comes in directly, it won't have the energy necessary to blow up.
	But if it comes at an angle and goes through enough of the atmosphere, it could build up the energy to produce a sizable explosion.
	Then you say, okay, well, there's meteors that crash into the atmosphere all the time.
	Have you ever seen anything like that happen in history, a recorded history going back as far as you want?
	And they'll say, oh, no, we've never seen anything like that.
	And then they'll say something like this.
	But you see, it could have happened over the ocean, and we didn't see it.
	So you see.
	And then you say, what you're doing is you're making up imaginary data that you've never seen before to support your pet theory, just in order to avoid the idea that there could have been something extraterrestrial involved.
	So if something did come down and went through the atmosphere at an angle at such a huge speed in order to produce a 10 to 90 megaton explosion, The bow wave that would have been created by that would have totally destroyed things way below it, like for hundreds and hundreds of miles.
	It would have been a huge thing, and none of that happened.
	And also, there were 700 witnesses in two different areas.
	And the two different areas, they described the object differently.
	And they saw it.
	It wasn't going that fast.
	And so they saw it going this way, and the witnesses in one area described it of a certain color in a certain way, and witnesses in another area saw it in a different way.
	And so it looked, from a witness's perspective, as if they were two objects that were both headed towards the exact same spot, but from different directions.
	And then Aziz saw both objects, a natural object like a meteor, just like what Dick described, But he also saw the artificial object, just like that Des described.
	So I put it all together and I said, this only makes sense if you think of it as a bomb.
	And they were trying to destroy something, and the meteor was coming in probably as a camouflage.
	That was my interpretation as a distraction.
	Aziz also went and described a structural stuff at the bottom that had high-tech stuff that was way out of time from 1908.
	And my best interpretation for that, and Dick also saw a structural thing down below, My best interpretation for that was that it looks like there was something that somebody was trying to get rid of.
	You don't blow up something with a 50 megadon bomb for no reason at all.
	I mean, that type of explosion means you're trying to get rid of something.
	That's how I interpreted it.
	Now, Daz may differ with this, but the point is, that's how I interpreted it.
	No, I'm sorry you asked about Area 51.
	Yeah, no, but actually I'm going to stop you there.
	I mean, thank you for that.
	You know, I think that's very interesting to people, and we will come back to that, and we'll come back to the Area 51.
	Since you started with Tunguska, let's go with that.
	What I'd like to do now is get Daz's...
	Sort of interpretation or at least description, whatever he'd like to do, in terms of how he viewed his own viewing of Tengizka and where he thinks there were discrepancies between the various viewers and where he thinks there were,
	as you say, overlaps or If they were all sort of in unison in a certain way, it does seem as though there is a slight gap.
	And there also seems like there is an area in which, yes, you took the driver's seat, Courtney, and added sort of two and two.
	In, you know, from all three viewers, but there are varying interpretations of the data that could be, I guess, further explored.
	Someone on the outside might see it differently, etc.
	So wondering if Daz can talk about any of that.
	Go ahead, Daz.
	Sure.
	In my data, I clearly believe I saw some kind of man-made craft that was Heading at a downward trajectory that seemed to have got into some kind of trouble that they couldn't recover from and it felt like the life forms inside them decided to make a decision to destroy the object that they were in.
	Rather than anything being recovered.
	And I felt that it was maybe even diverted over a non-populated area for the explosive event to take place.
	So they purposely chose that area.
	Well, let me ask you about this, because at the time when I was listening to the...
	I want to recommend that everyone get this video.
	You do have to purchase it, but it's not very much money, and it's very well worth it, let me say, because it's so fascinating.
	We're really talking about an event where there's quite a bit of action.
	So it's almost, in a small way, you might say even like...
	viewing a movie from different perspectives and I wanted to ask you because my impression and I don't know if it was you know because of yours and Aziz's putting those two together or not sure where it come from came from but I got the impression there was somebody was repeating over and over again that there were these Ant Hill-like structures that they lived in and then they came from
	off-planet.
	I guess that was Aziz.
	And then there was an effort to destroy whatever was there at Tunguska.
	It appears in an underground so that the force of the hit, the explosion, however it happened and however it was created, was actually what appeared to be a targeted hit.
	On that particular place to take out what appears to be an infestation or small civilization that had landed and taken over that little part of Russia back in those days.
	Now that may be my leap.
	I don't know.
	Go ahead.
	To be honest, I didn't...
	Get any data to either confirm or deny that.
	It just wasn't, for some reason, it wasn't the focus of my target session.
	I think my focus was mainly, and this seems to happen with remote viewing, whereas if you have a group of remote viewers working at Target, they tend to, I don't know what the process is, but the process behind remote viewing kind of gives you a part, an individual part that you work on.
	There is a little bit of overlap, but one person would look here, the other person would look there.
	If there's a third person, he'd be looking down here.
	So you stayed up with the beings in the craft, is that correct?
	Yeah, my main focus of the entire event was of a craft coming down and then detonating or exploding.
	And then the wave, I didn't...
	I didn't even think, to be honest, because I was so engrossed in looking at that, I didn't even think to look at what might have been on the land or under the land or anything.
	Okay.
	Yeah, my main focus was the craft.
	And the craft was interesting for me because...
	It's unlike, you know, I've done quite a few of these targets now, and as I said, I've studied UFOs for years and videos and all this kind of stuff.
	But what was unusual with this event and this observations was that the whole craft and the beings inside the craft were not physical in any way.
	They just didn't exist until they got into problems, and then they existed, but They kind of winked in and out of existence, in physical existence, as they were having the problems.
	Right.
	So they went interdimensional.
	Yes.
	If they were normal and not having problems, they would have been invisible to us.
	We wouldn't have even known they were there.
	The only reason they became physical was because of the problem they were having.
	And that blew me away because I've never really encountered that in any of my remote viewing wanderings with aliens and all that kind of stuff.
	Okay, but in your UFO studies, you know of this phenomena.
	Yes, yes.
	In normal UFO studies, you know, when you see craft and they kind of disappear or they stretch.
	They seem to blink in and out of this reality to some degree.
	Yeah, but I've never physically, I've never actually encountered that kind of non-physical being within remote viewing before.
	Right.
	Fascinating.
	So back to you, Courtney.
	Do you want to add anything to what we've been talking about here?
	Yeah, let me add some questions that could be answered.
	We didn't resolve this Tunguska thing completely.
	This is one of the projects.
	Most of the projects, I sort of think that we have enough in it to sort of say that's what happened.
	But this one, we have some questions.
	So if I was to take Daz's session totally as is, And then take Aziz's session totally as is, then I would probably draw this as a hypothesis.
	Daz perceived some type of energy thing that disturbed that ship and caused it to blink in and out.
	Okay, now those things, we've never experienced those things happening naturally, but Daz didn't see where it came from, but he said, you know, it could have been natural, it could have been something.
	On the other hand, disease sees this facility.
	That's what you should call it.
	It's a facility on the bottom of Tunguska.
	And it was very high tech and they were dealing with extremely high energy type stuff.
	Energy thing was a big thing.
	So here you have a high tech energy facility on the ground.
	That's seeing this ship above running into problems with this wave thing that sort of interfered with it.
	It's sort of, and I'm not saying this happened because we don't have the resolution for this, but this is one question I said.
	Did the guys on the ground do something to attack, with a wave thing, the guys on Vogue?
	And then did they have to retaliate in order to stop that?
	And if you add that together, that totally fits in with everything.
	Now, I don't know if that's the truth.
	We'd have to actually do another project on that and figure it out.
	But the whole idea of them coming down, and then having to send something down, Causing the explosion, wipe out the facility, and maybe also having a ship come down that was in serious trouble.
	But the whole goal being...
	See, if you just want to destroy a ship, you don't need a 50 megaton bomb.
	Even if you're trying to get rid of the evidence.
	So for some reason, they had to have a big thing.
	So for me, I'm sort of saying if they're destroying something, they really wanted to destroy.
	And if they were running into problems, if you take it as a session exactly as is, if they were running into problems because of some energy thing, and right below them was this huge energy facility, are those two things related?
	And then would that have caused the people in the ship to have to defend themselves and blow that place up?
	Or alternatively.
	I'm not saying that happened.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I get that.
	But alternatively, what seems to be the case to some degree is, do we have a warlike situation between two races?
	Two groups of beings, one with one kind of technology, one with another, one that was linking in and out of this reality on the way there in order to cloak themselves and also become more safe to get out of this reality, come back in, out, come back in, is how Gaz seemed to describe it.
	And then finally encountering this, whatever was shot at them in a wave-like form, But then ultimately getting their weaponry through, which ultimately destroyed what was below them.
	So one group having, you know, it's like a war situation in which one is more successful than the other.
	That makes sense, but we don't have enough.
	Yeah, I get that.
	But that's something that should happen.
	That's the sequel, if we ever do this something again, is to figure out what happened.
	Yes, and I would like to see, you know, other people who also would listen, you know, get your video and watch and listen because there is a tendency, I think, if you do pay attention and you're involved and you have your own remote viewing tendencies to possibly tap into these kinds of things when you're watching.
	And I don't know whether you guys think about that or talk about that.
	In fact, when people look at our sessions, be it on our projects or on our YouTube stuff we put out with a project called Timecross, they do that all the time.
	While the person's doing their session, the actual audience, a whole bunch of the audience, is actually doing their own session, following along and seeing if they get it, which is fun for people to participate that way.
	That's why I say it's kind of like a movie in a sense.
	Yeah.
	Because if you're seeing it, you're kind of there.
	And you may even pick up things that aren't being picked up by any of the three viewers because obviously this is true for regular reality in everyday life.
	They've done, of course, this is kind of a common test.
	You have everyone walk into a room, look around the room, and then walk out and then say what they saw.
	And inevitably, some people will see some part of the room and some things will stand out to some people and other things won't.
	So that's a very common sort of exercise, I guess you call it.
	Yeah, that's exactly it.
	So that's what we've got here.
	Now, is there anything else on the Tengiscus, you know, viewing that you guys want to discuss and that the floor is open to either one of you?
	Just, you know, go ahead and raise your hand or speak.
	I would want to mention that Dick's session, I believe, is accurate.
	I do believe there was a meteor involved as well.
	Okay.
	Because Aziz saw the same thing and he did say it was pointed in the same direction.
	That's the other reason...
	They were all converging.
	So you have this artificial thing coming down and a meteor coming down.
	The only thing I can think of is that if you were going to have an attack on some facility on the ground, you'd want some type of diversion force.
	You wouldn't want to just announce everything and then come in and risk being...
	If they were being hit by something like that, as described, like an energy thing, then obviously...
	The people on the ground would be concerned about watching those people in the ships.
	So they'd want to have some type of camouflage, some type of diversion.
	And so it makes sense to me that they would have directed a meteor.
	Aziz said that the meteor and the artificial thing were pointed in the same direction.
	They were all converging.
	So it makes sense to me that they would have actually had a meteor Come down because the people on the ground probably would have said, well, what the heck's that?
	Is there a meteor?
	It must be a meteor.
	And it all happened within just a second, so there wouldn't have been enough time to react.
	So if I was up in the ship and I was having problems and I needed the droids to destroy some facility, I would have caused some diversion, say, let's have a meteor come down, confuse them, you know, what's happening.
	Now, Dick actually saw this meteor and Aziz saw this meteor.
	Dick believes that that was it, that it was just a meteor.
	I have severe problems with saying that's it, although I don't have severe problems in saying that that was there.
	I just don't think that was all that was there.
	Okay, but if you don't mind, I'm going to bring in, because it happened to be very interesting to me that I've interviewed Valery Uvarov about this very site and that he was going to take a team there and that they were doing more investigation.
	This was several years ago.
	I have to assume they probably did go there and do more investigation, but being Russia, perhaps they didn't release the information they found to the public.
	But at any rate, I can tell you that Camelot and my witnesses in particular have talked about Meteors being used as targets, even kind of like in a sense of a slingshot or whatever you want to,
	however you, I don't know what the technology is that can shoot a meteor forward, but I know that Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards, has recently talked about this technology that they can shoot, I think it's a neutron star, through a wormhole and use that as a weapon.
	And we know that there have been hits on other planets from what we believe are other races.
	So I actually would challenge you with an idea that the meteor wasn't a distraction, that it actually was a targeted hit using the meteor, and that also they were backing it up with another kind of a hit to make sure that they totally destroyed that particular event.
	It could have been two races using two kinds of technologies to work together against a common enemy and to defend Earth even.
	If you want to look at it like that, perhaps that was an invasion, what was lodged at Tunguska.
	And so, I mean, I know this is all kind of extrapolating from where you've been, but at the same time, I think that it's important to understand that there's another possible explanation for why the meteor was there in the first place and the fact that it could have been shot from using another technology and indeed it may be the same race of beings who were attacking using other technology but it could have been the help of another
	race.
	So that's just throwing that out there for consideration.
	Well actually Carrie you're saying something really important.
	What you're saying is History is a lot more complicated than we're originally told.
	And that's the bottom line message.
	So I think we've added something to the Tunguska mystery.
	I don't think we've added everything.
	I don't think we've concluded everything that's happened, but I think we've added something to it.
	And you're raising really valid points.
	I would only say that it would be really fun to find out.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I wish that...
	You know, I've tried to interview Valerie again, but someone seems to be stopping him from doing an interview with me.
	And that's not too unusual.
	But if you do get a chance to talk to Valerie Uvarov, you might find it very interesting to compare notes.
	Another person who's done a lot of work on the Tunguska thing is this guy, Vladimir Rukstov.
	And he's an astronomer...
	Actually, he's a scientist, not astronomer.
	He's an astronaut that spent much of his life doing this, studying the Tunguska thing.
	He also summarizes every study that has been done by everybody and describes what the problems are.
	He's the one that actually convinced me that the scientists really don't know.
	The mainstream scientists really do not understand.
	They all have theories and they all speak definitively because that's what scientists are taught how to do when they get a PhD.
	They're taught how to speak authoritatively as if they know what they're talking about.
	So you have to be another one of them to realize when you're one of them, then you can realize, let's not let the tone of voice distract us.
	That guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
	I mean, so it takes one to know one.
	And so the reality is Vladimir Rubsov's really great contribution is To really clearly buttonhole the idea and just knock that solid that the scientists really don't understand it.
	Because what's happening is they've taken a whole possibility, the idea of extraterrestrial involvement, and said, we're going to try to figure out Tunguska without allowing the extraterrestrial concept to intervene.
	So we're going to say, we have to come up with an explanation that only allows a natural event to occur.
	I mean, that's not science, that's religion.
	Right.
	They have a belief system, and they're making their conclusions match their belief system by saying they're not going to allow certain ideas to enter that belief system.
	Anyway, Vladimir Rubschop really handles that nicely.
	Okay, so Daz, over to you for the moment, just to ask you for any kind of reaction to what we've been discussing here and your thoughts.
	I think...
	We don't know at this stage if anything's possible and we have to keep an open mind.
	And also in light, I don't know if you know this, but I've also, after we did this project, I also did some research and I collected every public remote viewing session I could find for the last 45 years on Tunguska and I have over 20 or more of them now from people For people actually within the Stargate unit, the military unit that did remote viewing on it, to people outside of it like Liam Buchanan, people training and people that I've trained even myself.
	So I have quite a lot of RV on this now from people all over the world going back 20 to 30 years.
	And it seems to be a split somewhere along the lines of 70% of the data seems to indicate extraterrestrial involvement and 30% of it seems to indicate some kind of meteor event.
	But it's like the same results that we have with the forestlight project, really.
	It's not definitive.
	It's very interesting that we have this split.
	So it does lead me to believe that There's a very real possibility that both things were involved in this target.
	Absolutely.
	Well, my theory will incorporate both, of course, but that's based on my witnesses' testimony over the years.
	And I would venture to say, in case you don't know, that Valerie kind of, he was sort of head of the weird desk over in Russia for quite a while, an intelligence agency.
	So that kind of, I don't know, leads is a leading thing.
	Kind of remark in terms of why he would go back with a team to investigate Tunguska, like why they really would.
	But it is fascinating.
	And what you guys are coming across now is information that is turning on its head a view of the reality of what's been going on on planet Earth.
	And you're getting evidence of That is going completely contrary to even some of the more open-minded, you might say, investigators out there because you're coming across things that they are not aware of at all, you know?
	And I think that's really, really fascinating.
	Now I want to ask you guys about Area 51.
	And I am, you know, aware that you have a limited time here.
	And I want to thank Daz.
	Daz is in England and it's the middle of the night there.
	So he very graciously, after I kind of made the mistake of scheduling this in California time.
	So he came along with us, so I want to make sure to give him kudos for that.
	So back to the Area 51.
	See, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that, again, Dick Allgaier did not get the extraterrestrial lower level.
	Am I wrong there?
	Did he get that?
	Or what's happening with that?
	Yeah, can I mention?
	Yeah, sure.
	Dick did see a large reptilian down below.
	He just watched him.
	What was very interesting is Aziz saw a reptilian that he described exactly the same way.
	Height, smell, everything.
	And Aziz went into it more, but the fact that they both saw the same thing and had the same impression about their psychology of that.
	But anyway, Daz, you go on.
	I don't think I saw any, because I'm bearing in mind, I'm trying to think back a few months here, I don't think I saw any live aliens in Area 51.
	I think what I did see, well I know what I did see is research and samples and libraries of samples For example, they had a whole area that did exobiology, so they were looking at the makeup of the aliens and stuff, but I didn't think...
	I didn't see any live samples there.
	I saw bits and pieces of cadavers.
	They were looking at the blood structure, and they were trying to make...
	They were looking at, for example, viruses, and they were looking at what viruses could be developed from the exobiology of aliens, and they were trying to weaponize...
	Some of the biology of the aliens and stuff like that.
	So I saw lots of stuff happen at various different levels.
	I'm not sure I saw any actual live ones that I remember.
	I'll have to go back and read my sessions and look at the video.
	Well, you know, I have a question for you along those lines because when you as a viewer hear another viewer's, you know, information, Does it ever sort of trigger a memory that you...
	Because even Aziz, I thought Aziz was quite astute in the sense that he picked up that the reptilian was trying to fog his brain.
	In other words, to make him forget what he was actually seeing.
	So I wonder if when you hear something like that, is it possible that...
	Not necessarily in this instance, but even in other instances, have you ever heard something from another viewer who viewed the same group session that you guys are doing that triggers a memory that somehow your mind had blocked or even an alien had blocked out of your conscious mind?
	Did you ever have that experience?
	Not that I'm aware of.
	But I'm probably not the best person to ask this question to because I hardly ever view the other viewers' work on any of the projects we do.
	So I haven't seen anyone else's work on either the Area 51 or the Tunguska, other than maybe having a quick flick through and seeing a couple seconds of the video.
	I don't watch the videos and watch the other people's work.
	I don't review...
	So you don't discuss it with the other viewers either?
	No, I've never...
	Me and Dick...
	Well, me and Courtney and Dick have only had two or three talks with the three of us together.
	I've only talked with Dick a handful of times.
	But I make it a purpose of my own never to view anyone else's data on any of these projects.
	Oh, I see.
	I just don't do it.
	Let me mention something, Kerry, about what you said.
	About the Area 51 thing.
	One of the great things about Daz, and this is very consistent with his removing, is when he goes to a location, he very systematically goes through each piece that he sees, and one piece leads to the next, which is why he saw in the Tunguska thing, the ship in the sky, and then he noticed it was blinking in and out, and he followed the blinking carefully in and out each step, Well, with the Area 51 thing, he did the same time.
	So, in the time that he had on the Area 51 thing, he saw the ground level, the desert environment, he saw the hangar, he saw the elevator, he carefully went down the elevator to the first few levels.
	Okay?
	And he spent all that time, as he should have, going through in detail what he was seeing in those first few levels.
	Now, if you're asking now, but Dick saw a reptilian-type tall guy that had a smell, the whole thing, hostile, and Aziz saw the same thing, where did they see that?
	They didn't see that at the upper levels.
	They saw that way down below.
	Now, Dick went down the elevator, it was clear in his video, further down than where Daz was, and then Aziz made a point and that's where he that's where Dick saw that one reptilian and he described him identically as Aziz did but he did not see that reptilian on the levels that Daz was staying on and focusing right now if you go Aziz however went further down then it was very clear he kept on going as far as he could go and it's
	and then he ran into the big reptilian guy and He ran into a nursery room with a lot of malformed genetic experiments.
	That's where the reptilian guy actually could see him and then try to block him.
	Let me just mention one thing.
	If you look at that from that perspective, all viewers in the Area 51 thing were totally in line with each other.
	They saw things at the same levels that were the same, but they saw different things if they went further down.
	So, you know, that's something that we really get from having multiple remote viewers, because they tend to go off in some different directions.
	And you look at where they, when they go to the same spot, do they see the same thing?
	And in that case, you can clearly say, yes, they saw the same thing.
	Right.
	Fascinating.
	Well, is there anything else about the process?
	You know, I've got a chat room going on here at the same time, and there may be some questions, so I could ask them to put questions in all caps, and then we can allow them to ask you guys a question or two if you are, you know, up for that.
	I will mention one thing about a process that if you want to hear, because this might be a little new to Des.
	We have run into a number of targets, Area 51 was one of those where the viewers couldn't get through.
	With 9-11, Daz did, I believe, six sessions, paper sessions, and he couldn't get anywhere.
	Six sessions.
	You know how long?
	Six paper sessions.
	He was very patient for me to keep on going.
	Dick did a whole bunch of them, and when we got to that point, I said, but Daz did more.
	He did six.
	I think Dick did four, and nobody could get through.
	And we at Farsight have what I call anti-blocking procedures that don't involve the reviewers at all, but it's something that we do on our side.
	And I never actually told Daz about this, that the only way we were able to get through that Was for me to turn on the anti-blocking procedures.
	And so as soon as I did that, it was a switch.
	Suddenly all of Daz's sessions were perfectly exact for the 9-11.
	He saw the Twin Towers come down, he saw the Jets, he saw the Pentagon.
	Fascinating.
	None of Dick's sessions went off after that either.
	When I deal with some controversial things, like Area 51, I know going into it, that we're going to be blocked so in those situations i turned them on before we actually started so they actually they actually hit it they actually hit it going but that is to this day does does not have any idea what i do but there is anti-blocking stuff and if we don't use them for some air for some projects we can't get there so if i'm saying basically if you are in
	a remote viewing group and you're trying to replicate everything they Our experience is that unless you do something to get by, there is a way to block remote viewing.
	And unless you have a means to get past it, there is no way on earth that I know of, normal way, to get past it.
	Meaning there is a way to actually stop it.
	But we have a way to do it, and I don't mention what it is.
	So are you not at liberty to share what your process is?
	Yeah, right now I don't want to because it works so nicely, and I don't want to mess with it.
	However, you saw it happen when Aziz went to the lower levels of Area 51, and the reptilian actually saw him and was surprised, like, what the heck are you doing here?
	And the reptilian had to go right up to him, just like a foot or two away, And do something to block him so that he couldn't see.
	And then Aziz had to reposition himself, and the reptilian kept following him, like finding where he was.
	That was very unusual for the reptilian.
	Normally the guys would have said, you shouldn't even be able to find this place.
	But they were able to block it.
	And then Aziz sort of thought of it like a cat and mouse game.
	Like, this is sort of interesting.
	It's a little futile.
	And he got to a level going further down that he just says he just can't get past it.
	So, you know, at some point when you have that much energy focus, I guess even our anti-blocking stuff didn't work beyond that level.
	But anyway, I just thought...
	No, that's fascinating.
	It's part of the process that we never talk about, but there is some targets.
	And one of the things that's interesting about that is that there are some targets where that happens.
	And 9-11, it was huge.
	We couldn't get...
	We couldn't get the first bass on 9-11 until I turned it on.
	And as soon as I turned it on, it was like you're watching a TV screen and everything is fuzzy.
	And then suddenly, everything connects.
	And you're seeing, you know, a big flat panel TV with everything.
	It was like that from my experience watching the sessions come in.
	Okay, well thank you.
	I think that's fascinating.
	Daz, do you have any comments?
	Are you aware as a viewer that suddenly things became accessible, viewable?
	Were you aware, psychically or otherwise, of this removal of a block of some kind?
	No, I didn't know that.
	The process that we're taught, we're kind of kept on this linear kind of focus beam of intent and concentration towards doing one thing, really.
	I do remember that it took an awful lot of sessions on the 911 target to get anywhere at all at first.
	It was weird hearing afterwards that it wasn't just me Because sometimes viewers are off, no matter what, your life gets in the way, sometimes you have a bad day.
	But it's rare to have all the viewers working on a project and not be able to access it for any period of time.
	I'm sort of getting the sense, just intuitively, that I should tell people what I do to get around it.
	I don't know if it's a good thing, but I just sort of sense it.
	So I might as well.
	I risk doing this because sometimes I say things that I do and Des gets flipped out and quits on me.
	He's quit on me about twice every project going on.
	But I might as well just tell you what I do.
	It is impossible.
	That's why I know nobody on the planet Earth can stop the blocking without this process that I know of.
	It is impossible to stop the blocking when it's done by people who know what they're doing.
	Except if you have an outbounder.
	You have to have somebody at the target that has a clear connection to the target, and you have to see through that person's mind.
	There is no other way to do it.
	Meaning, if the blocking goes in, you can't do it on your own.
	The blocking is specifically designed to fuzz up the energy so that you can't go through.
	But if somebody else can go through because of technological enhancements, because of technology, if somebody else has the ability to get through, You can go through that person's mind like as a wormhole.
	You can go through that person's mind.
	So there is a group of people, beings, and they're extraterrestrials that have been helping us from the very beginning at Farsight.
	They've gotten us messages.
	That's why we still exist.
	Otherwise, we would have not been existing.
	We've been following their advice forever.
	And one of the things they told us early on is we will supply you with an outbounder.
	We will supply you with, whenever you need it, someone who can get to the session.
	So if you ever get to a target where you can't get through, and they give us all the signs and symptoms for what would happen, and you can do that.
	And so what happens is this group has the ability to, maybe through technology, I don't know how they do it, but they have the ability to get through all that blocking.
	So the only way we can get through to these targets I have two versions of every target.
	Daz has never seen the second version.
	But when I close the sessions, when he sends me the work, I don't look at the target description that I sent him.
	I look at another target description that says, the real one.
	And the real one says that for this target, it must go through that person, that specific person that was assigned to work with us, And then after that, to see, and then the target is the same.
	And so what happens is when we encounter the blockings, I simply write up another version of the target where the first sentence is.
	The viewer will perceive through that.
	And when I close the sessions, when the sessions are sent to me, and I'm looking at their session for the first time, before I look at that session, I read that target.
	And I read it very carefully.
	This is being seen through that person's mind.
	Okay, but you just said that they were ETs.
	Yeah, there was a group of extraterrestrials that are involved in this.
	Otherwise, we would have been out of business long ago, but they've been with us and protecting us and giving us information.
	So it's a member of...
	Are you saying it's a member of their race that is facilitating this, or is it a person in contact with their race?
	It's a whole group.
	And they've assigned someone to help us out in situations like that.
	And it's been very reliable.
	And if it ever stops, we wouldn't be able to get through those targets.
	Now, there's some targets we're not going to be blocked at.
	For example, Hitler's psychology.
	There was nobody blocking us on that one when we did the Hitler's psychology one.
	When we did the Cydonia Mars, there was nobody blocking us for the face on Mars.
	So if I don't need it, I wait for the first couple sessions to come in to see if it's needed.
	And if it's not needed, I just don't use it because I'd rather have the viewers just do it on their own.
	But if it's a high-priority target and I've got to make it work and I get the symptoms of blocking, I know what it looks like.
	I know exactly what blocking looks like.
	And when it looks like that, I just turn it on, meaning I write up the other version of the target And whenever they send me something, a new session, I close it on the new version, which says they're seeing through this.
	And then the problems go away immediately.
	I've not had a single instance where the problems didn't disappear immediately.
	Okay, but how do you contact this group of beings?
	They're watching us.
	We don't need to contact just by me closing it on a different version of the session.
	They're watching us so closely.
	We used to actually get...
	We used to actually get direct communications, but at this point I just trust everything because I know they're watching us.
	Every time we need something, we get something.
	Every time we absolutely need something.
	Sometimes we think we need something, but we don't need something, so it doesn't happen.
	But whenever we really need something, we always get it.
	From technology to funds to money to other things.
	And so I just trust the people that we're working with to help us.
	I do know that the government does, you know, this is something you have to consider as totally hearsay, but I do know that the government does know that we get help from this.
	And I'm not saying we're special or exclusive or anything like that.
	I just know that...
	Well, I know I get help.
	Camelot has been helped since the very beginning in a massive way in the same way.
	And I'm aware of it.
	The government seems to be supportive of this.
	I mean, they know very well that this happens.
	And no one's tried to stop us.
	But I also want to say that...
	Do you know that Eamon Ansborough, he's an astronomer who's trying to use...
	SETI, in a completely different way, quantum mechanics, and he's established.
	I interviewed him recently, so if you're interested at all, you can watch what he has to say about his project.
	But he said the same thing, actually.
	He said they're all scientists, and they're all like, you know, lodged in this world type scientists, and yet they're doing this thing to try to Leapfrog over what the Secret Space Program is involved with and reach, you know, outside the galaxies to, you know, really going interstellar with this technology to try to reach beings out there in a far, far distance.
	And he believes that they're being helped by a certain group of beings.
	He said they've noticed it.
	They've been given ideas that they never would have thought of, that have, when they reached a roadblock, that, you know, cleared the way, etc., etc.
	So he volunteered that to me.
	He is, you know, a doctor of astronomy.
	And, you know, everyone's welcome to watch.
	His name is Eamon.
	My recent interview with him, I just got back from Ireland a little while ago.
	So what I wanted to do is ask Daz, any reaction, Daz, to hearing this possibly for the first time?
	It is the first time I've heard this from Courtney.
	But I've got to be honest, I'm not shocked because...
	I don't know if Courtney knows this about myself as well, but for the last, I'd say, 24 years, independent of what I do with remote viewing, I've also been part of a psychic development circle based in my hometown of Bath here.
	And what we do in that is totally different from remote viewing because it's based on what I call classical psychic techniques but what we essentially do there is a group of like six of us go into a deep state of meditation and we have encounters and conversations with non-physical Beings of all different shapes, sizes and forms.
	And for 24 years, I've been having these conversations with these things.
	And I've even wrote, you know, I have a, there is a book on Amazon that I wrote about some of these experiences.
	I don't think I've ever shared that recording either.
	So it's not new to me, it's just something that we haven't discussed within remote viewing.
	And yeah, I see it all the time within all spheres of psychic development work that people do, that there are these non-physical beings that are helping people on all different kinds of levels.
	Absolutely.
	Well, it's fascinating.
	I thank you, both of you, for sharing those bits of personal stuff that is involved in your work.
	And I think people will appreciate hearing sort of another aspect to what you do.
	You know, this is what we're part of.
	We're part of a A multidimensional universe or, you know, many universes.
	And so we are encountering life in all its different forms and it's inevitable that we're communicating.
	As far as I'm concerned.
	But it is still considered, of course, very controversial.
	You know, the proof is in if it works, you know, if it's actually happening and you get more information, etc., etc.
	And I couldn't have survived Camelot all this time if I didn't have help.
	I can tell you that for sure.
	So, for what it's worth.
	Yeah, you actually are...
	You're doing a service that no one else is doing exactly the way you're doing it.
	Thank you, yes.
	And you're long-lasting, too.
	I don't know if there's another broadcaster that has been as daring and as long-lasting as you have.
	So far, so good.
	Well, there's a huge sort of litany of wonderful people that have sort of braved the new world in this way, of course, Phil Schneider and William Cooper and the list goes on.
	But yeah, thank you very much.
	So to get back to this, I do again have a chat room.
	I know we probably are a bit over time here.
	I want to thank you guys because it's been great.
	Is there anything that people that would like to ask our viewers here, Courtney as the project manager and about these two fascinating subjects that they've covered?
	And even other subjects that they may have covered or whatever else, while you've got them here for a moment, a few minutes more, you know, I encourage people to write questions.
	Please put a question mark after your question.
	If you can put it in all caps, that can really help.
	And then I can, you know, distinguish it from the rest of the chat.
	So, while we're doing that, any parting remarks or any things that you want to cover here, Courtney, and or Daz, and, you know, what we've been discussing?
	Daz, you want to go first?
	Yeah, I'll just say one thing, really.
	If anyone likes what they see with what we're doing with remote viewing is to Give it a try themselves because we all, to one degree or another, have this ability within us.
	It's a natural ability that's given to all humans.
	I'm not just talking about remote viewing, but being intuitive and psychic and being able to connect to everything within the universe.
	All you need to do is just a little bit of meditation, do a little bit of research, and go out and investigate and try the things that we're doing themselves and find their own answers.
	I should add that And on our website, Farsight.org, F-A-R-S-I-G-H-T, like seeingfar.org, we have a complete instructional set that's for free, almost 30 hours of instruction.
	So, again, it's for free.
	And it includes video as well as audio, but all hosted by YouTube.
	And plus there's printable text, all supplies, everything, and a zillion people Start with that when they go off and they do that and they can actually experience these sessions.
	They experience the phenomena.
	I should also add that we haven't charged for training in a very long time.
	That the instructional materials we give out are all for free.
	And we have been training some new people that are actually coming along and are amazingly professional now.
	Besides my son, Aziz Brown, but we also have Princess Janae and Melina Hall.
	And both Aziz and Princess and Melina are millennials.
	They're young people.
	And young people don't have any money.
	They're broke.
	They're looking for ways to go to college.
	They're looking for ways to buy lunch.
	They don't have money.
	When you have people with disposable income, You're talking about people that have a career behind them, and then after they take a course in remote viewing, they go off to Switzerland to have tea, and then go to London to do crop circling, and then they have money.
	But people that have money, I have found through a couple decades of working, they don't really stick with farsight stuff with the same dedication that you see with DAS. They have other things in their lives.
	So the decision was made, I made it, To try to teach young people that have no money.
	But if you do that, you can't ask for any money because they don't have any money.
	So we ended up, I ended up an experiment of giving two, besides my son, who was free.
	I didn't have to pay him to learn.
	But I ended up paying Malina Hall and Princess Shanae to learn remote viewing.
	Not them paying us, but we paying them And it wasn't a lot.
	It was like $500 a month.
	But it was enough for them to keep coming back.
	They really needed the money.
	But they also liked doing it.
	It was very respectable.
	It was fun.
	It was new.
	It was educational.
	They were learning something new.
	Melina was a professional illustrator, didn't have a lot of jobs, but she did professional illustrating.
	She draws.
	And Princess Jeanne was a model and actress.
	She was the lead in a very big production in Athens, Georgia, the university town in Georgia, just last weekend.
	She was the lead in a great play.
	I went to see it.
	But anyway, she was an actress.
	Most actresses don't earn very much money, unless you're in Hollywood and stuff like that.
	So I trained them for nine months, paying them all along the way.
	And then they started working on our Time Cross project.
	And I have to pay them, again, $500 a month to keep working on our Timecross project as they become more professional.
	And right now, they're unbelievable.
	I mean, I'm looking at them now and I'm saying, whoa, this is amazing.
	Well, the reason I'm bringing this up is when people visit our website and watch our Tunguska, our Area 51, our Roswell, our 9-11 projects, our JFK assassination projects, our Cydonia Mars, Iapetus projects, Phoenix Lights projects, when they watch those things, they're giving us the money that we need to pay these other projects going, to keep these other things going.
	So we don't have any other alternate sources of income.
	So when we have these projects that you're talking about, Tunguska and Area 51, I don't take that money.
	What it goes is, and I'm a university professor, I don't need that money for that reason.
	I take all of that money and I use it for other stuff.
	And in this case, I've been working with these young viewers.
	And you're going to see, over the next year or so, amazing projects coming out from these.
	And these are going to be young people, millennials, that never would have been seen had we relied on people to pay us.
	So this is going to be a new thing to watch out for, to look for.
	It's a big investment.
	So far they've been with me for two years.
	And now they're just starting to get into their own sort of projects where, you know, videos will be produced that people will buy.
	But anyway, I want people to know that when they're watching a video, they're actually helping the cause.
	They're actually participating for the future of these, you know, the future is for the young people.
	The young shall inhabit the earth.
	And so unless we have young people involved with us, our relevance is less.
	So it's very important that we be a mix between the older, wiser, and the younger, fresher, energetic, that mix.
	Yeah, that's great to know.
	And I think that everyone should be aware of that so they can support your work.
	And help support these up and coming viewers.
	I can say that I've already seen them do sessions.
	Both of those women.
	And they're obviously very, very talented.
	I do want to say there are some questions coming in on the chat.
	One in particular caught my eye.
	I thought it was a good question.
	In light of what happened in Vegas.
	I know you have this time cross.
	I think you call it time cross.
	Yes.
	Viewing.
	Sessions that you do on up and coming, you know, what's going to happen the next month.
	So I guess the question is, did you guys view the Vegas event?
	Did you see it last month when you did your, or whenever it is that you do, you know, your pre...
	About three months ago, maybe four, I made the announcement on the Timecross project that we were going to stop trying to get terrorist events.
	Because they were so regular, they were becoming predictable.
	Timecross is supposed to...
	Show clear descriptions of events that we could not normally predict.
	And terrorist events were so regular.
	And I made this same discussion with regard to political scandals.
	Because political scandals were coming out every day out of the White House, especially.
	Like, every week there was new stuff.
	So, like, you couldn't come up with a session saying there's going to be a political scandal, because, like, what's new about that?
	Kitty!
	We did not get the Vegas thing.
	Maybe it's because of that, that we're really trying to stay away from terrorist events, but maybe it's also because we just missed it.
	We got other events.
	We got other things, though, that were really interesting so far that look like they're panning out well, but go ahead.
	Okay, well...
	Excuse me.
	My cat is just getting energetic back in the background here.
	So just ignore him.
	He's now sharpening his nails on my carpet.
	But anyway, so I think that that was a good question.
	And I am curious now that you've said this.
	How do you, if you tell somebody, well, normally, as I remember, you were telling people to focus on what was going to hit certain newspapers.
	Like the headlines of certain newspapers in that month and that they would be significant events.
	How are you screening out certain things?
	Well, this is for our Time Cross Project and we have found two things.
	I had to change the parameters of the Time Cross Project after the first few months.
	What we found out was that there were very few events actually being, there were very few events actually being described.
	And the four major venues that we were looking at, which is the two versions of CNN, International, as well as US, as well as the New York Times, as well as BBC. So if you look at the actual websites for those sites, you actually see very few things happening.
	It's mostly political commentary about who said this, who said that, who's a good person, who's a that person, but you don't see many actual events happening.
	So I then, this is probably about a year ago, I made an announcement in the thing that we're just simply abandoning the idea of just, of trying to get things just from those sites, just from those, because they just didn't have enough sites.
	They didn't have enough events going on.
	And so what we said is what we're going to be doing is letting the roving remote thing reporters that are in time process go out and pick up major events that are going to be happening the next month.
	And we were going to rely on the events being Described in sufficient detail that we can make an identification of which one of those are.
	Now this is very different than other things we do in Farsight.
	And other things we do in Farsight, such as our multiple universes project or all of our other projects, there are very specific targets and people have to see that one target, one thing and only.
	So TimeCross is a different thing where we're trying a long-term experiment just to see how it works.
	We didn't know how it would work in the beginning, but we're sending remote viewers out to the next month.
	So we have a 30-day advance window and saying, what do you see happening in that next month?
	And they just report whatever they get and then do it.
	And what we're expecting to happen is that after some years, we'll be able to look over all the data and see how this experiment worked.
	And so far, it's been working extremely well from my perspective.
	There's been some controversy, but from my perspective, it turned out extremely well.
	I must admit that Daz has had some qualms about the project from the very beginning.
	However, I have to say that in the very first month of the project, he had the most amazing session in Time Cross that anyone has ever seen.
	He was the one who saw the Egypt Air Flight 804 come down, and he described that thing How it came down, the trajectory, how it came down.
	And nothing like that has ever happened again.
	It was the only time that happened.
	It's the only time that type of session ever came about.
	It was totally unique.
	And he described exactly the way the thing spiraled and it came down.
	It was astounding.
	And that happened to be the very first month.
	So even though Daz has had some disagreements with the Time Cross Project, I have to say, He's never been wrong.
	He's in his own sessions, meaning in his own sessions when he did it in the beginning.
	Always an event happened the next month that was extremely unique and matched it absolutely perfectly.
	So, I mean, for example, when we were trying to and again, I'm not trying to minimize it as his disagreements with that the way the project set up.
	But I am saying that when he did participate, it was extraordinary.
	For example, when we were describing a month where, Daz, you're going to have to correct me on this, where we had the Brexit vote occurring.
	Now, the Brexit itself could not be described because it was a predicted event.
	It was a scheduled event.
	So that was out of balance.
	But Daz came in with a session of the Prime Minister of Britain basically resigning, wasn't going to run again, things like that, and From the month that he did it, that was like totally impossible.
	This was like before Brexit happened, the Prime Minister was on a roll, everything was possible, and that's continued with this absolutely spot-on session, and he described not just the Prime Minister, he described the road, the setting, the people in front, the people behind, everything was as if it was a photograph.
	Okay, well, let me ask Daz, since you brought this up.
	Daz, do you want to make some comments about why you would view the Time Cross project as being problematic in some way, in spite of your obvious, I guess, ability to see the future?
	Is this something where you feel that the future is not set in stone and you don't wish to influence it?
	Because I am interested in...
	Is it a philosophical issue you have with the actual project or is it more technicalities or something?
	Yeah, it was in the technical construction of it, really.
	Because I'm a stickler for everything being...
	Very scientific and trying to improve the scientific nature of all the projects I'm in.
	Yeah, and I just had some disagreements of how the...
	Because at the time, Courtney was picking, I think, four news sources.
	I had some disagreements over how you pick the four news sources, how you quantify which is going to be the top story to then...
	Go against the data.
	So it was just, yeah, it was over the technical details.
	I've got no problem in the future.
	You know, all this information is out there for all of us to access at any time.
	Okay, so...
	If I could summarize what I sort of interpret and Des, you can correct me if I want.
	I think my interpretation of Des's main objection was that we didn't have a process worked out Where there was a single target that everyone was supposed to get.
	That we had with all of our other projects.
	And in this case, we just had to agree to disagree.
	I didn't want a single target.
	I wanted to see...
	I have a theory.
	In fact, my remote viewing book is that I wrote a whole book on this theory.
	So it's not like something I just thought up.
	I've invested A lot of time, a lot of experimentation, and a book that took me four, actually five years to complete before it actually hit the press on remote viewing the future.
	And based on my theory, it is impossible in a situation of multiple timelines, which is part of the whole process, to remote view any one single setting any one single future unless one condition happens and that is the person that's doing the tasking has to be located further into the future beyond the actual target event so the remote viewing can be done for the future but the person picking the target has to be above has to be beyond that so if so the person could
	be say six months down the line picking a target for the month of February and the sessions were done in January Now that works.
	We did that for a year in a multiple university project, and that works spotlessly without any problems.
	So we were remote viewing the future, but the problem was we didn't know what we were doing.
	We didn't know what we were remote viewing until the tasker in the future picked the target.
	And also no one could watch the sessions.
	No one could look at them.
	Because they were all encrypted.
	We didn't want the future to be interfered with.
	Now, it worked perfectly, but it was useless from a practical perspective because no one could see the remote viewing stuff.
	And then we had to work on a process where Encrypted sessions and paper were spread throughout the internet, downloaded by tens of thousands of people, but people couldn't see them because they were encrypted and had a password.
	And then after the person picked a target in the future, we would publish the password and people could then look at the paper sessions and they were spot on.
	So that works, and that was a way to actually pick a single target.
	And that would have resolved, I think, as his main complaints.
	But I didn't want to redo that.
	I wanted to see if there's a way to see what's going on in the future without having a temporal outbounder, without having somebody in the future pick a single target.
	So the process was major events are going to happen the next month.
	We're just going to have a bunch of viewers go out and see what we get.
	And I wanted a few years of experience with this to see if it would actually work.
	and it's been working like a charm to be quite honest in my opinion and we publish it at the end of every month both with a summary of how we did the previous month and also the predictions for the next month and it's about the loyal following of about 25-30,000 people that watch it and follow it which is respectable it's not the millions but it's it's respectable and it is an interesting news show and with the production value of it has increased a great deal but Des's main objection,
	and as you correct me, is still valid in the sense that we're not picking a single target.
	So his real focus is that you need to have a single target so you can validate the data by comparing it to that target.
	Okay, but with that in mind, Courtney, and let me ask you this because I have been getting certain people writing to me about this next month, this month of October.
	And making certain predictions about certain things.
	It seems a very volatile month we've got here.
	Have you done a viewing on this month of October already?
	Yeah, we published that on September 30th.
	So at the end of every month, we publish what we get.
	And is this available?
	Is this, again, does this cost money for people to see?
	No, some cost is totally free.
	Okay.
	And it's a news show that comes out on YouTube every single month.
	All right.
	And the four major events that we came up with for next...
	We have two viewers for this for October.
	It was Molina Hall and Princess Sine and they both did two targets.
	So basically we have four events.
	So these are four news stories and we have Actually, we have a bunch of things.
	They're all described in there.
	It's not necessary to go into that now.
	I just wanted to highlight that and then people can look it up to see, obviously watch the video.
	Isn't that right?
	Yeah, and this does not say that those four things are going to be the only things that happen in the month, and it doesn't say that those four things are going to be the most heavily reported event that's going to be reported in CNN or BBC or whatever.
	It is saying that we have got these four events, and based on past experiences, those four things will happen.
	Okay, but you did not get Vegas, however.
	Is that what you're saying?
	And the reason you didn't get it is because you screened...
	I mean, see, you're making an assumption that it's a terrorist event, and it's not a terrorist event, really.
	So how did you screen it out?
	Well, we don't...
	All I did was tell the reviewers...
	We're going to try to avoid these terrorists, these predictable shoot-em-up terrorist events.
	Now, I don't know if that's why we didn't get it for October, but it is true that quite a few number of months ago, I don't remember how many months ago, maybe five or six months ago, I did announce it on the thing that these things are becoming too predictable.
	Literally, a month doesn't go by without somebody shooting people up.
	Well, actually, but there's a lot of question as to whether these are, we call them false flags, because there are a lot of false elements.
	There are a lot of misleading elements, and some issues have to do with shooters, perhaps, yes, but the Patsy...
	This is a news show, and I'm not saying that's exactly why we didn't get that particular event.
	I'm just saying...
	We are trying to shy away from those types of terrorist events.
	I don't know if that's the reason we didn't get it.
	Also, you're asking a different question.
	You're asking the why about it, like whether there's a false flag element or something like that.
	That's the type of thing that would be involved in a mysteries type project.
	That way you have a bunch of remote viewers targeting, being sent to one specific event, and you're trying to unravel what actually happened.
	That's not what we get with Time Cross.
	Time Cross is a description of the event itself finished.
	End of story.
	There's not an investigation aspect to it.
	We don't have enough time for doing anything like that.
	Okay, what about Antarctica?
	What about what?
	Antarctica.
	Have you remote viewed Antarctica?
	Well, we did do the Atlantis project and half of that was on anomalies that are Clearly visible on Google Earth on Atlantis.
	So, on Antarctica, rather.
	And we call that the Atlantis Project, for lack of a better word, ancient...
	Okay, but I meant Antarctica today.
	No, we haven't done anything on Antarctica today.
	And I can guarantee you, without any doubt, that we will never do anything on Antarctica today.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, in light of what you said before, I think people should refer to that and then reach their own conclusions about your answer to that question.
	But nonetheless, all right.
	Well, then, I want to thank you both for being on the show.
	I have told you that I would keep it in limited time for you, Courtney.
	If you guys have anything more to add and you want to say anything else, you're welcome.
	Otherwise, we will close this down at this time.
	The last thing I'll say, and I'll let Des finish it off, is farsight.org.
	If you could sign up for our free email newsletter, whenever we do something new, that's where we send it out.
	That's the best way to get it.
	Also, subscribing to our YouTube channel really helps.
	And if you watch our projects...
	Tunguska, Airy 51, Roswell, 9-11, JFK stuff.
	You're not only going to get a tremendous education on remote viewing and how it's done, but you're helping us do our stuff because we have no other way to pay the bills.
	So we don't just ask for money.
	We give you something for it, which is these projects that you can't get anywhere else.
	So if you watch our projects, you're investing in your own future.
	Yes, you end it up.
	All right.
	Now I just want to say thanks for having us on.
	I'm sure Courtney will agree with me.
	We're happy to discuss this kind of project or this kind of stuff with you anytime.
	Maybe at some point in the future we can work with you on a project that you might want to answer on or something, you know, specifically for you as a program.
	Oh, that would be great.
	But yeah, you know, keep up the good work and, you know, this stuff's real.
	Anyone can do it and try it for themselves.
	Wonderful.
	All right.
	Well, thank you both for being on the show again.
	And it's been a lot of fun, fascinating as always.
	And I, again, want people to support your work.
	I do think it's great, Courtney, that you're trying to...
	Bring on more viewers and give them a chance to show their stuff.
	And I think this is a good thing for people to do is to explore the future and look and see what's happening.
	I, myself, often get information about the future.
	And I have recently seen, let me just say, even though I don't normally do this, I actually have been given Richter scale information Information about future earthquakes.
	So I guess, you know, I'll put that out there somewhere and let people know what I saw.
	It doesn't mean it'll happen, but it is interesting.
	I don't normally get numbers in my...
	This is something that is fascinating.
	Have you guys, while we're on the subject, seen any future earthquakes or done shows on earthquakes?
	No, we haven't.
	And I can say that with remote viewing, we really don't know anything unless we look at it, and it has to be a specific project.
	However, there's something great about what you just said.
	The spirit of you, Carrie, is something that should be contagious.
	The spirit of asking these questions and wondering about them and looking for any possible means, intuitive.
	Sometimes you interview scientists to give you ideas.
	Sometimes you base on your intuition.
	But the idea is there's a...
	When I look at you, I see a ferocious drive to sort of figure out by hook or by crook, any which way...
	The greater reality and a lack of trust and just believing blindly what mainstream says.
	So you're great, Karen.
	You actually are a great model for people to ask.
	You bring up a lot of controversial questions, but you do it with an open mind and a level of courage that very few people can match.
	And even though some of the ideas sound a little bonkers, the people that are not raising these ideas are really the ones who are bonkers.
	There's nothing wrong with raising these questions.
	And I think as a model for young people, millennial people, you're a good one.
	Because you're saying, let there be no boundaries.
	It doesn't matter if you get it right or wrong.
	What matters is that you're willing to question anything.
	Thank you.
	Well, that's very kind.
	I'm not paying him, by the way, to say these good things.
	But I do believe that we are all explorers at heart.
	And that's why I think to be an explorer, you must have an open mind.
	And I think that that's really the bottom line and a reason for living.
	So thank you both again for being on the show.
	And thanks, everyone, for watching.
	Have a great night.
	Okay, take care.
	Take care, everybody.
	Okay, bye-bye.
	So, what I will do here is just switch.
	So, stay tuned.
	I've got some future things coming along, and I hope that you'll...
	You'll be interested to see what they are.
	And I have asked actually Joanne Richards to ask Mark about these recent fires in Northern California.
	There are some very suspicious elements to those fires.
	So just want to throw that out there.
	I have tweeted out and I recommend joining my Twitter if you want to know what I'm talking about and what I'm interested in and also what I'm releasing and when I write an article, etc.
	But these Northern California fires do appear to be set.
	On purpose and there is an element of possibly testing a weapon and some of the technology that Judy Wood had talked about with regard to 9-11 seems possibly to be involved.
	There are there's anomalies such as trees that aren't burning but a house that's burned completely to the ground.
	The tree is left standing.
	There are other elements that have disappeared.
	Household appliances aren't even there anymore.
	So what kind of fire is this?
	It's very, very strange what's going on in Northern California.
	I'm originally from Northern California, so I am sort of tuned into that.
	And I have asked again Mark Richards to see what's really going on there, so hopefully we can get an answer.
	And I also am asking about the hurricanes.
	Obviously, we know that the hurricanes were steered into place.
	And this is another element of what's going on.
	And this seems to be sort of a mounting playing field, if you will, a scenario that isn't just one event.
	It's not just Vegas.
	It's not just the hurricanes.
	It's not only the Northern California fires.
	It's All of these things added together and where they're leading and what is the scenario and who is responsible, this kind of thing.
	So a lot to look at, a lot to be investigating.
	And thanks everyone for those of you who do investigate.
	And make YouTube videos and try to share your findings with others.
	I think that's a really wonderful thing.
	So I want to thank you for that.
	So thanks again for watching and have a great night.
	Take care.

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