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April 19, 2017 - Project Camelot
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SEARCH FOR SASQUATCH : INTERVIEW WITH DARCE WEIR
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Hi, everyone. everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm very happy to be here tonight.
We have a fascinating guest, Darcy Weir, and he is a filmmaker and, from what I understand, an actor as well.
And he has made a documentary Which is about Yeti or Satch Watch or what you might call Bigfoot.
And this is a lot of fun and very, very interesting.
It's a serious documentary and has all kinds of footage in there.
And we're going to talk to him about that tonight.
So I just want to welcome you, Darcy, here to the show.
And...
I guess what I'll do is look at your short bio here and see if we can get that on the screen momentarily so people can kind of see a little bit about you.
So what I'm going to do is just kind of read through it briefly and then people can kind of follow along.
So just one second here.
Yeah, sure.
It's the Sasquatch, too, which is the Canadian sort of terminology for Bigfoot.
Right.
So, actually giving it three names, because that's what I am familiar with, and we have...
You know, Yeti in a different area of the world, Satchwatch, and the Bigfoot as well.
So those are the three names I'm familiar with.
There may even be some more out there.
But anyway, that's kind of what's out there now.
So I wanted to put this bio up here.
So I'm going to do that.
And Basically, it says you've been supporting fringe element theories for over five years, ranging in subjects from UFOs to government secrecy.
You started back in 2011 by creating a documentary about Phil Schneider and underground bases, which will be re-released this year with added content.
Since then, you've pursued a story about the British Columbia, Canada's history with Sasquatch, otherwise known as Bigfoot.
The documentary covers the anatomy evidence, scientific facts about this creature existing like never before.
With interviews with the great Dr.
Jeff Meldrum and Grover Krantz, two living researchers today who have tracked and studied many eyewitness accounts that have happened recently.
Darcy will continue to make documentaries about subjects that seem to be shunned by the mainstream media and approach them with credible factual retelling.
And your documentary is currently available on Amazon.
We've got a link on my website and it's called The Unwanted Sasquatch.
And there's also a trailer on YouTube.
I put the link to the trailer.
I don't know if that's your trailer or someone else reposting it.
And then we've got a link to your website as well.
So with all of that, I just want to welcome you to the show and say hello to everyone.
And it's great to have you here.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm psyched to be here.
I've been following...
Project Camelot since you and Bill first embarked on this journey over eight years ago.
So it's pretty awesome to be featured on your live show you do and be able to share some experiences I've had with making this new documentary and some other documentaries that I've been making recently.
Okay, well, that's great.
Actually, we've been in operation now for 11 years, so a few more years than you realize.
And so that's kind of very important in the sense that longevity is sort of a rather rare commodity in this spectrum because we're really dealing with a lot of craziness.
So it is great to have you on board here and Why don't you give people sort of a background on how it is that you embarked on this path?
And why you decided to focus on Sasquatch?
What was your interest and And so how come you made a documentary about him or here or them or them?
Yes.
Yeah, sure so I guess, like I said, I've been following all kinds of fringe thinking since I was even in university studying film and sociology.
I started off looking at things like UFOs and sort of...
Visual spectrums and us being able to perceive certain things within the human range, basically, you know, visually and conceptually.
And then I made that documentary about Phil Schneider some time ago.
I actually started making it, I think, in around 2010, 2011.
I was collecting interviews from his late wife, Cynthia Dreher.
And interviewing people like Richard Dolan, Richard Sautter, who's done many books on underground bases and the United States involvement over a long lengthy period, starting really around the military industrial complexes, big launch post-World War II. And, you know, I finished that documentary.
I published it online.
It had over 3 million views on YouTube.
And this was back when YouTube was really in its, for me, it was more in its infancy.
Now you've got YouTube Red and all kinds of professional YouTubers out there.
I really wasn't that.
I was just a film student and a film, you know, Creator from a very indie perspective, and I still am, but I really enjoyed doing documentaries on subjects that are related to things like we're talking about now,
things that are on the fringe that, you know, when you first hear about them, as you said, in this spectrum, you deal with some craziness, and it's everything that Anything can challenge you on a daily basis.
I like that stuff.
I don't tend to go towards the more common documented fields like sports or politics or famous people's biographies.
I tend to go towards subjects that are very challenging to mainstream societal beliefs.
Um, and this documentary, I started shooting, uh, I'd say like 2015, actually.
Um, I had moved back to Canada from Australia.
I was living over there for two years.
Um, and I'm originally from Toronto, Ontario in Canada.
Uh, I moved to the West coast of Canada, as they say, the West is the best.
And, um, When I got my fresh start out here, a friend invited me to a festival that's held every single year north of the city, the main city here in Vancouver, about an hour and a half to two hours away in the mountains, and it's called Sasquatch Days.
It's a Festival that's actually put on by the native Canadian, the Aboriginal people here that, you know, were native to Canada prior to Western European settlements.
And in the totem poles, in the long...
History of the peoples that live on the west coast of Canada in this northern area of North America.
There's been stories of a creature called the Sasquatch.
The terminology is actually, from their language, it's pronounced something similar to Sasquatch.
But when...
The word was created or coined by J.W. Burns who is an English teacher that was living on a native Canadian reserve up here teaching the native people how to And it's supposed to be a creature that's
very elusive, that's large, bipedal, resembling something like a gorilla or an ape.
And, you know, the story goes, you know, don't let your kids be in the forest alone at night because the Sasquatch will take you.
And some people may believe it's just folklore or trying to teach, you know, security to young children and such.
But I believe it's definitely not folklore.
I believe there's concrete fact that this creature does exist in a scarce population throughout North America in the United States.
Jeff Meldrum, who's a real champion of this whole subject, he's one of the head professors at the Idaho State University.
I interviewed him for the film and he believes anywhere that a large black bear population can thrive in a North American clinal rainforest sort of environment.
These creatures could also thrive, and not in as large population numbers, but definitely there's a possibility they can live there.
So, as I said, I was invited to this Sasquatch Days Festival, and I had finished this documentary about Phil Schneider not too long before I had been invited to this festival.
And we were invited to meet two people who lived residentially in this area called Harrison Hot Springs of Northern BC, British Columbia.
And those two individuals were Thomas Steenberg and Bill Miller.
And Bill Miller is one of the main subjects in my documentary.
He kind of weaves the story from beginning to end, you know, going through a chronological history, let's say, of very important sightings that have happened in British Columbia that are very factual in nature because, you know,
police came out and multiple witnesses sort of saw the evidence that this creature was around and There was massive footprints and all kinds of things whenever people went to these scenes.
Kind of like what you hear about when there's a sighting in the United States where you guys call it a Bigfoot.
And I guess the more scientific name, if we were going to relate it to an ancestor that We know for sure did exist in the past.
You said the Yeti before, but in the Himalayas, the actual scientific name for the creature that's been found and cataloged is called Gigantopithecus.
I said John before.
John Green is an elder man.
He's Actually, he passed now, so I got one of the last sort of interviews possible with John.
He had been covering this subject for over 50 years.
He owned a local newspaper in Harrison Hot Springs, and the very first major sighting of one of these creatures that happened in Northern California was by Roger Patterson.
Roger Patterson was somebody that had been collecting data about this creature possibly existing in the early 60s.
And in the late 60s, 1967, he traveled to the Three Rivers area in Northern California with his friend Bob Gimlin.
And they hopped on some horses and they were riding around the creek beds through the deep rainforest there.
And they found tracks and they were following tracks for days.
And there was construction workers that were building railroads and new roads for cars and transportation up that way.
And they had been calling in saying, you know, there's footprints all around our equipment every morning and things are being moved that are thousands of pounds that.
you know, you wouldn't think could be moved unless the equipment was turned on and used with heavy machinery.
And then they caught that famous footage, the Patterson-Gimlin film, with Patty, which is supposedly a female Sasquatch.
She was kneeling down, having a sip of water at this creek bed there, and...
Bob and Roger had come around on their horses and they'd startled it.
It stood up and immediately started walking away.
And that's when Roger Patterson hopped off his horse and he had an old 8mm camera and he started tracking the creature and running after it and recording it.
And, you know, that footage is very famous to this day.
It's in my film.
Okay, yes, absolutely.
Well, it's fascinating stuff, I have to say.
And it's great that you have decided to sort of pursue this in this way.
I am wondering, did you go out trying to search for, you know, sightings yourself?
Have you done that?
Or do you plan to do that?
Yeah.
I think it would be a great pursuit.
I think anybody who is going to be looking for this creature is going to really have to spend months and months.
Not like these TV shows that you see, like trying to find a monster or whatever, you know, these...
Shows that I think kind of make a bit of a parody out of the whole phenomenon.
And that's because it's filmed in a reality TV way.
And I worked on reality TV for a bit as a production assistant back in Toronto for a TV show called Rich Bride, Poor Bride back in the day.
And, you know...
Reality TV isn't reality anymore.
It's scripted.
It's screen-tested with all the couples or with people that are being shot on the show.
And there's a producer and a director saying, cut, reshoot, let's try and set that scene up again.
I think the subject hasn't really been offered its It's not been offered the best pursuit.
And people like Jeff Meldrum, he wrote a book.
He's written a couple books on this subject, and he has another one coming out soon about wild men.
And wild men are known to every culture pretty much around the world.
There's One that's kind of like the Sasquatch, but smaller in Australia.
There's one in the China area.
There's the Sasquatch.
There's the Bigfoot.
There's something like that in the French Alps.
There's all kinds of wild men.
And when he started taking this subject seriously...
He actually went on a two-, three-month expedition with his, I believe his brother and a friend.
And they were stalked by, if you read the book, they were stalked by a couple, Bigfoot.
And they were in the Northern Californian area, which is a hotbed for sightings.
Kind of towards the corner of Oregon, I think.
And they said that when they were stalked, they were stalked very intelligently, as in these creatures seemed to strategize how they were going to approach the campsite.
They waited till...
It was close to nightfall, and there was a mist or a sort of fog rolling into the campsite, and that's when they started hearing footprints in the distance approaching, because to move in under the cover of fog is actually a way more intelligent and secure way, so you're not sighted as easily.
And these men were...
They were doing this whole hiking expedition with firearms because they wanted to be secure.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is if I'm a filmmaker, would I go hunting for Sasquatch?
Would I go looking?
There's two things you have to keep in mind if you're ever trying to carry out an expedition like this.
It's not going to be easy.
And it's not going to be very secure.
Thomas Steenberg, who's one of the guys I've interviewed for my documentary, he got attacked by a grizzly bear when he was out looking for Sasquatch because this forest that you're trying to look for an elusive animal in that's quite clever is Dense with other types of wildlife that would also kill you if they're challenged or you're
on their territory.
I haven't gone looking but I've taken the accounts and the evidence that has been accumulated and presented over the years And I have put that together in a film and I take it seriously.
I think it's quite very possible that these things exist.
Well, actually, I agree with you, which is why I'm having you on my show also.
But I have to say that my understanding is at least a certain group of these creatures are actually able to go interdimensional and that they have some amazing powers as well.
That they are a race from a certain planet and galaxy and that they do visit Earth on a regular basis.
So this information is out there.
I think it's in Ashiana Dean's books for one thing.
And I've also heard it in other places.
So I have had someone else on my show as well who says, claims to have spent some time with the Satch Watch.
Although I don't know, I don't remember because this is several years ago and it was on my radio show.
So I have to track that person down, but he was an interesting guy.
He was having interactions as well as someone he knew.
So a lot of times people get in touch with this kind of subject matter because they themselves have seen something anomalous.
So I gather that you have never seen anything necessarily anonymous or anomalous, but you still are very interested.
You have a reason for believing that they exist, and certainly the evidence is out there if you choose to look for it.
You spoke directly to people who are investigating, and if I recall, one or two of those people I thought had actually had sightings themselves, Were those your clips that you put in the documentary?
In other words, were you sort of talking to those people directly, or were they clips that other people had shot that you then included?
How did that happen?
I think the clips that you may have seen of...
Possible Sasquatch that are in my film would have been from the famous case, the Patterson-Gimlin film, which happened in 1967.
That was pretty much the first big film to blow up this whole phenomenon.
And the people I was interviewing were not there, but they...
I took great interest in the subject from an early age.
For example, Bill Miller, he's also from Idaho State.
He moved to Northern British Columbia.
He's an American man.
He moved to Canada over 20 years ago because he wanted to be close to pretty much a hot spot.
For sightings to this day, every summer, at night, sometimes during the late day, there are sightings.
One of the people that was interviewed in my documentary that's from this area that saw a Sasquatch recently was this Dave Corton, and he is a hunter that was actually...
Looking for game, he was hiking alone in this Ruby Creek area where there's been a history of sightings there.
He didn't know that, but he was walking alone and a very large sort of boulder was hucked at him across a marsh or a pond.
And nearly hit him, but mostly startled him.
And when he looked from where the direction of this boulder came, he saw that a large, hairy, sort of hominid was running upright towards the forest, towards the tree line.
And he was blown away because he knew that wasn't a man and it wasn't a bear.
This looked like Something in between, you know, and that's when Bill Miller and John Stebert got involved and they went out and found a track out there and they documented the track by laying plaster and that's in my film as well.
But the main video clips that show a possible sighting were not from the subjects that live locally.
The subjects that live locally do research a lot of the incidents that still take place today.
There's a phone line that is called when people see stuff in the area and they want them to come check it out and they go check it out.
The police get called about it too.
Can you say how often do they get called in other words?
Do you have any statistics on that?
I'd say during the warmer months of the year, probably one or two calls a month.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
So this one who had the, what you call, the stone, that's in the documentary, which is great.
And it has the stone that was lobbed at him.
It's quite a substantial sized stone.
And he sort of demonstrates that, I guess, in the film.
And I do encourage people to watch your film.
It's a great effort and fascinating, really.
So was his position that he actually, the way you're describing it, Did he feel that he saw the creature from head to toe?
Did he say it was covered with hair?
Did he get into any more detail than that he knew it wasn't a man?
What does that mean?
You know what I mean?
Well, yeah.
He saw it from probably the waist up and saw that it was covered in thick, sort of dark black or dark Very dark brown hair.
And it had, you know, sort of a head that was very big, kind of like a gorilla.
A gorilla has a cone-shaped head, too.
So people say that if they...
People that have said that they've seen Sasquatch or seen Bigfoot, a very common trait is a conical...
Point to their head, not like ours is more round, but in the back, you know, right about the crown of your hair is where theirs sort of cones up a bit.
And it's mostly, it's actually muscle that's creating that cone because it's like forming really strong jaw muscles.
But basically, he said he saw some anatomy like that and that it was moving incredibly fast, which a more powerful creature than a human in boots or something would be able to do.
And yeah, he said it couldn't have been a man because it would have to be an extremely strong man to launch this rock that was...
Boulder-sized.
Really, really massive.
And so how tall is this creature that he saw?
Did he describe?
I think he described it anywhere above six and a half feet.
But from that vantage point where he was close to this road, once you get over into the thick of the tall grass and the boggy area on the other side of this pond...
You have fallen about two feet probably, so it could have been easily around eight feet tall, which when you're getting around eight feet tall is where most people need crutches and sort of knee bindings and certain technology to keep you standing upright strongly.
It's not very common.
You'll see somebody that's around eight feet tall as a human.
Definitely you don't move gracefully when you're that height because your joints and your muscles are very taxed.
Right.
Okay.
Well, so in terms of this gigantic rock also that it was throwing at, you know, at this man, in a kind of aggressive gesture, I guess you might say.
So was, what did this person, I can't remember in the video, but did he say anything about being frightened?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he said he was extremely frightened.
I guess the incident was so quick that he couldn't even really raise his gun and react or anything.
He thought that at first he was communicating with possibly a human because he looked that way and saw a figure.
But then once he saw how it was moving and what it looked like a little bit more, he just turned around and got out of that area and was frightened.
Because this was an aggressive gesture, and primates, just like us, use tools.
And if you're going to try and ward somebody off or ward somebody away, there's two ways you can do it.
You can make noise, or you can make a physical gesture.
This is not uncommon in the primate world for primates.
A scream or a howl to be made at first, or if you don't want to be seen and you want to startle something, to throw an object.
Sure, fair enough.
So, speaking of screams or whatever, you do have a soundtrack here on the film and some interesting, very interesting sounds coming from what appears to be this animal or Or being.
And it is recorded over time, apparently.
There's one incident, as I recall, that had something to do with the screams would come periodically, like every night or something like that.
Do you recall what that is?
Yeah, that actually happened...
In 2016, so in September of last year, there's an area that's a small island off the coast of British Columbia.
This island is only inhabited by people, mostly of native Canadian descent.
Really, the only wildlife you'll see on the island are people's dogs, like pets, and some deer manage to swim to the island sometimes, wild deer.
So, to hear a howl that sounds like John Bindernoggle is a wildlife biologist that's also taken this...
This phenomenon seriously and this creature.
He's been documenting this creature.
He calls it an upright ape.
He has a book with the same name, I believe.
And he went out and researched this case.
And there's multiple recordings at night of what sounds like a very guttural and deep, chesty howl.
He's a wildlife biologist, so he can rule out what creatures would make that sound.
It's not a coyote.
It's not a loon.
It's not a bear.
It's not a known vocalization.
It is a vocalization that had been associated with this type of creature before.
When he went out, he took it pretty seriously.
It was covered by a national news source in Canada here.
So, yeah, I guess Canadians kind of take it seriously.
We're curious about, just like you guys are, about the Bigfoot.
We are open to the possibility that this thing may exist.
And I guess if it was on that island, it must have swam over there or something of that nature in order for it to be making these vocalizations late at night.
So, in terms of when that Patterson film came out, because that seems to be amazing footage, actually, and I don't know if any of the footage out there is quite matching it throughout time.
So when was it shot exactly?
And have you ever been in touch with the filmmakers?
Or have they died?
Or what's the story with them?
Do you know?
Yeah.
So Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin are both past now.
But their family...
They've got a long bloodline.
Roger's wife is still alive.
His grandson I actually dealt with in order to use the footage from my film.
His name is Clint.
The footage was originally captured in 1967.
And Roger and Bob had taken an interest in the subject because they had heard of the folklore from the Native Americans that live in the Northern Californian state area.
And there had been multiple sightings of large footprints around construction equipment in that area That they went looking.
And when tracks had been seen, they kind of got all their gear together and they actually had set out with the intention of capturing footage.
Just like today, you're asking me, would I ever go out and try and capture footage?
I don't know if I would, but if I would, I'd like to be doing it as secure as possible and with a larger group of people.
Just to ward off any unfriendliness, but basically they set out with the intention of trying to capture some footage and people have stated in the past, oh well, maybe they were faking it or maybe they If their intention was to capture something, they had to fake it to make it.
But if you look at my documentary, you look at all the evidence that supports that that footage is very authentic and it is not faked, you would appreciate their situation when they finally found this creature drinking in the forest.
As you do, if you come to any watering hole in Africa, you're going to have lots of animals gathering around there.
It's a source of life.
And the same thing goes all parts of the wilderness where you find waters where you're going to find animals.
And they happened across this creature.
And it fled.
And if you look at the footage, in my documentary, I slow it down and stabilize it At a very, very good rate.
I think other sources that I've seen it have not done as good a job, I think, with presenting that footage.
And you see the muscle structure You see the way that it moves.
It's very natural, anatomically speaking.
It doesn't look like a man in a suit at all.
You see skin.
You see fur.
You see muscle.
You see where it bends at joints naturally.
Its hands, its fingers are moving.
Its feet are articulating.
It's...
Its toes are curling up when it takes a step, certain steps.
You could see its toes furl up before it puts its toes down and completes that step.
And if it was a man in a suit wearing fake everything, you wouldn't be able to get that articulation.
You wouldn't get that natural anatomical look.
And especially in 1967, we're talking like A long time before we even had the Chewbacca suit, you know, and even Chewbacca, like, kind of like moves stiff and makes that crazy noise.
And you can tell it's like a puppeted man in a suit that there's not a lot of articulation to the face, the arms and all that.
It looks very stoic in his movement.
And so I guess...
That footage has been contested over time.
People have come forward and said, oh, I was the man in the suit, and then that's been disproven because they described how they built the suit, and it looks nothing like the footage in how they describe it, and it moves nothing like a man in a suit would move.
Also, most of the people that have come forward are way too short for what we see in the footage.
The creature, National Geographic, did a study and used photo geometry or photogametry.
I can't remember what the terminology is.
It's like the scientific mathematical measurements based on The same site they went out, they put a camera or where allegedly Bob and Roger were standing on one side of this river creek.
And where the creature was walking off and trees and all that stuff that's in the foreground and background and based on its strides and the way it's hunched over, you can tell the creature, based on the math of how they measure everything, it had to be quite tall.
And somebody who came forward and said that they were the man in the suit was only about I don't know, five, ten, six foot or something like that.
So it was completely off.
It didn't make any sense.
And a lot of people, as you may know, will try and defeat subjects that they don't understand and they don't like.
And they will debunk in any way they can to keep their way of thinking more prominent in society.
And the same sort of thing happens in The UFO community, you've got people like Philip J. Class, who's a famous UFO debunker that's been invited on national news broadcasts.
Shows for years before he died and people found out that he was funded by the government to go and debunk sightings and debunk theories and make people out to be crackpots that were Normal people and some people even from a professional background like doctors and scientists or generals and pilots that have seen UFOs and he's thrown them under the bus because
there's a systematic sort of...
I believe there's a war on information out there and people are constantly bombarded with all kinds of information and I think the easier and simpler thoughts are the ones that are more prevalent because mainstream society wants it to be that way.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Well, well put.
So, in terms of where you go from here and what you hope to achieve by making the documentary, were you simply trying to raise awareness around the world with regard to this specific group in Canada?
Or are you interested in trying to go, you know, around the world, possibly talking to other People who have had sightings in other countries, etc., and are you continuing the project?
So where is all of that at for you now?
Right now, the film is completed, and I'm trying to move on to other subjects.
There are other interesting questions.
Creatures that could be investigated, for example, one that's most notably, I believe, real is the Tasmanian tiger or the thylacine.
That's been deemed as extinct for, I think, I believe, for over 70 or 80 years or something like that.
And that was known to be native to Tasmania, which is a small island off the The Victorian state of Australia.
And people, even today, like even as of last year or this year, 10,000 people have come forward and said that they've seen the thylacine or the Tasmanian tiger that's been said to be extinct.
And there's good reason for why it should stay extinct.
The reason why is because there is a logging industry that is very important in Australia that would be up against serious government protection if it did exist.
That means if it was an endangered species that was possibly dying from the logging of the rainforest in that part of Australia, And it was documented and proved to be existing today, then logging would probably have to be dialed back.
And so loggers don't want that.
There's somewhat of a business conspiracy reasoning behind why that thing should not exist.
And that would be a cool story to follow.
But I have a friend from high school who's I've been working on a documentary for some years, and it's called Walk Like a Giant.
So maybe you should check out that, Derek Skoll.
But other subjects that I'm interested in, I'm re-releasing the Phil Schneider documentary.
There's another documentary I'm doing on UFOs this year.
There's another documentary that I have conceptually written down, but I haven't even started putting together.
I've got tons of footage for some of these projects I'm working on.
But I think in regards to the Sasquatch and Bigfoot...
I wanted to make a serious attempt at telling that story and saying why it's important that people should take it seriously.
And the name of my documentary is The Unwonted Sasquatch, U-N-W-O-N-T-E-D. And that actually means scarce or hard to find, but it's also a play on words because when you first hear about these certain subjects, Sasquatch or Bigfoot, you immediately...
Most people that follow sort of a mainstream way of thinking, they don't want it.
It's something that they would have a gut reaction to think is silly or not to take seriously.
And so I wanted to kind of comment on that with the title of my documentary.
Yes, this is something that is unwanted and scarce and hard to find.
And I wanted to just sort of make a serious attempt at possibly proving its existence and kind of sift through a bit of the spectacle that's covered on the subject and more so cover some of the facts and the interesting evidence behind it.
And I think I've done that.
And I hope people continue to take action.
the subject seriously and I hope there's more footage that's found of this creature existing today.
I hope that people do go out and try and find it.
I hope they do it responsibly and securely but I don't think reality TV shows are going to do it properly because they're only going out for like a day or a night or they're laying some food on a log or something like that and Thinking that that's going to conjure a creature.
It could conjure a raccoon.
Who knows?
But if you're going to take it seriously, you're going to follow people like Jeff Meldrum, and there's going to be serious money and scientific expeditions put into the research and trying to find it.
Okay.
Well, you know, it's great that you spent all this time investigating and also making the documentaries you've made.
And this one is very excellent, I would say.
So encourage people to watch it.
I have questions in the chat, so I want to be able to run some of those questions by you if that's okay.
And I also wanted to know that you have a partner, it looks like, who worked on the documentary with you.
Do you want to talk a little bit about your partnership and what your various sort of division of labor was on this show?
Which partner?
Well, I thought there is another name on the documentary.
I'd have to pull it up to get his name.
I have it here.
I think it is.
I thought there was another name.
Am I mistaken?
There isn't another name associated with the documentary?
There's multiple people that have helped in different capacities.
There was Ashley Lane, who is an animator.
Alessandro Saini did music for me.
He did the scoring.
Lee Lustig did some scoring.
And Jeff Raimondo did some mixing, leveling of the soundtrack.
And he did an initial score, which I ended up not using much of.
I did video editing and filmed much of it.
I had some help initially by a friend named Alicia Taggio for some of the filming, but she didn't continue.
And then all the subjects like Bill Miller, Thomas Deanberg, John Green, Jeff Meldrum, and then archival footage, all that stuff is really important to telling the story, so I'm super grateful for everybody's help.
Okay, fair enough.
Well, as I say, I've got some questions here, so I'll go over them quickly and see if...
One person was asking, I remember already, they wanted to know, what do these creatures eat?
Any idea?
Um, I've, I've heard, uh, that they're omnivores.
So they, they do have, you know, uh, if you look at the Gigantopithecus, it has canine and it has teeth that would be, um, there's fossils.
Jeff Meldrum shows, uh, uh, uh, the cranium, a reconstructed cranium in the documentary of, uh, the Gigantopithecus, um, and it has teeth.
That would be good for cutting flesh, but also grinding all kinds of plant material.
So omnivore, I would believe that they would eat flesh of any kind, animal or plant life.
And there have been sightings of them stealing fish.
A lot of times they're stealing fish from campgrounds and stuff like that.
Tom Steenberg wrote a book about the native Canadians' sightings and a history of that in British Columbia, so you might want to Google that.
He has a story about one of these things having an actual physical fight with a grizzly bear.
I don't think he wanted to eat the grizzly bear, but it was a territorial thing.
And, uh, a couple that was camping recently in British Columbia that said one of these things walked onto the campground, grabbed a line of fish that was freshly caught and just walked off into the forest with the fish.
See ya.
Thank you.
Um, and then, uh, One of the stories in my documentary about a family that was living in a remote part of British Columbia in the 1950s called Ruby Creek.
The family was on their farm, housed there, and this creature came walking out of the woods.
The kids said, Mommy, Mommy, there's a large cow walking out.
They didn't know what to call it.
I think they were quite young.
She looked and saw it was a large...
Humanoid looking thing that was hairy and she was of native descent married to a white man and she grabbed the kids and hightailed it off the property and when the train builders there's a bunch of railroad workers nearby the chain gang She had heard this story.
She was crying.
She was with her kids.
She fled the scene.
They went back.
They investigated the property.
A dried fishbowl was broken And the garden that had some vegetables and stuff was torn up and it looked like the fish was half eaten.
It was like salted fish.
So they followed the tracks.
After it had apparently eaten some dried fish there, it headed to a river stream close by and had a drink because they followed the footprints there.
And then it took off the property and climbed a great hill.
Yeah.
I would say they're definitely omnivores.
Would they attack a human being?
I don't know.
I believe it's like any animal, depending on desperation, you try to seek food that's going to be the path of least resistance, something that's easiest.
Maybe a small child.
Who knows?
There are stories that children had been abducted in Native tribes throughout history from these forest beings.
And there's another...
I think David Polides wrote a book called Missing 411 Earth.
Right.
Yeah, and he wrote about national parks that were...
All these stories about people going missing in national parks and how it's not well documented in the national parks in the United States, Yellowstone, all kinds of places don't want to talk about it.
They don't want it to be known out there that People go missing every year and not just a few.
Lots of people go missing every year in deep forest areas and sometimes their bodies turn up, sometimes they don't.
And there's one story that I heard about and he's documented in his book where a child was abducted by what sounds to be like a Bigfoot or Sasquatch in broad daylight when this child was playing hide-and-seek At the edge of a forest with all the other children.
And this is a true story.
And it affected lives.
And where did that happen?
Do you know where that was?
I can't remember.
You'd have to Google it.
But it's a pretty...
Thought-provoking story and David Pleadis said, you know, the couple were destroyed.
They divorced shortly after that.
They never saw the kid again.
I think they found clothing somewhere deep in the forest or something.
And, you know, the kids had only just started playing this game for about 10 minutes and apparently the father kind of instinctually knew something was going on and they went into the forest looking and couldn't find him and no one's found him today.
A couple that was hiking during that day had heard a scream and looked up a canyon valley that they were lower, and they looked up and they saw what looked like a large ape-like creature with a child on its shoulder running into the forest.
And yeah, so all kinds of interesting information out there.
All right.
Now, someone else is asking if you know who Steve Quayle is, and let's see, Steve Quayle and Tim Alberino.
And they've written about giants.
Actually, it would seem more about the Anunnaki, but certainly giants.
And I don't know whether they cover the Sasquatch Bigfoot type of creature or not, but have you looked into their work?
No, I would not be able to comment on anything from their line of research, no.
Okay.
Someone wants to know about a hair sample.
Has ever a hair sample been found?
Yeah, hair samples have been found.
Often clinging to the bark of trees, in and around prevalent sightings that have been made throughout history in the United States and Canada.
And when some of these hair samples have been investigated, they have come back as tested, proven as unknown primates.
And I think in your documentary, you have something like human hair.
Somebody said that about a tested hair.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
So I think, to put it in perspective...
If you test something, if you go take hair from a chimpanzee and you test hair from a chimpanzee, it will come back as a chimpanzee.
If you test hair from a human, it will come back as being human or, you know, a homo sapien, right?
Right.
If you test hair from one of these creatures, because we don't have...
We don't have it actually documented as being something that's a credible creature.
It comes back as primate-like.
It comes back as an unknown primate, because technically there is no catalogue of this thing existing, so you can't trace it back to a creature.
Right, good point.
Someone else is asking why you think that the government is, if you think the government is covering it up, and why?
Well, I mean, like I said before, the thylacine or the Tasmanian tiger, 10,000 people have seen that creature, and it's been taken pretty seriously, but it's It's been said not to exist by the government of Australia.
Why?
People believe, possibly, that the logging industry has a great stake in the game there.
And if you look at North America, one of our major natural resources is logging as well.
So what if we did finally prove that this creature did exist?
That would Might have some serious implications for the logging industry in North America.
It would mean they would have to stop clear-cutting.
They'd have to analyze the areas of forest that they're going into to see if it would be affecting the habitat of these elusive creatures and money sometimes speak louder than You don't really want to slow down or stop progress for families to grow and put food on the tables,
right?
So then you want to keep this classified as something that's unrealistic and for crackpots, right?
So it could be partly that.
It could also be the fact that we just don't have enough evidence.
And if you look at gorillas, there wasn't lots of fossils of gorillas up until very recently, because when an animal dies in rainforest, it doesn't matter if you're in a North American rainforest, the acidity of the soil here is very high, or a tropical rainforest, it's the same.
Carcasses get eaten up quickly.
Bones get...
Broken down really quickly.
They get buried in all kinds of different debris and foliage.
And we don't have enough evidence of something like that existing.
We don't have enough trace evidence.
We do have hair samples.
We do have all kinds of tracks that show clear evidence of anatomy.
But we just don't have enough.
We don't have an actual live animal.
And so that would be a reason why too.
Okay, now someone else here is asking what actually I was alluding to, which is the fact that they very well may be interdimensional creatures, a certain race of beings.
And there is a lot of research done on that side of the story, perhaps more by sort of intuitives or whatever.
Someone is asking, what is your opinion about the notion that they could be interdimensional and also they might be an experiment gone wrong, for example, something of that nature.
Any thoughts on those two?
I wouldn't be able to...
I don't really give a full explanation on either of those sort of subjects.
Do I believe there's multiple dimensions and we live in the third?
Yeah.
Do I believe that this creature is moving in between dimensions?
I couldn't say.
I don't believe that to be true.
I think it is just an animal like a creature that lives in deep wilderness and sometimes we come across it, sometimes it comes across us and we go our separate way.
But yeah, so I couldn't really talk about this dimensional question.
As far as a creature that's been sort of genetically manipulated, who knows, that could be possible.
Have we been genetically creating all different types of organisms on the planet?
Yes, we have.
But is it some kind of escaped creature?
A lab animal.
I doubt it because it is something that's been in the history of Native Canadians, Native Americans.
It's been talked about by Vikings that have landed on the shores of North America over a thousand years ago.
This non-bare but humanoid looking hairy beast that was stealing their fish from their nets at night when they were trying to sleep.
So I think there's a long history of it coexisting and I don't think it's something that's living in another plane of existence.
Okay, someone wants to know if you have contact with, the way they wrote it, I'm not sure if it's St.
Salish First Nations.
Yeah, the Salish First Nations.
I guess that's what they're saying.
Sorry, what was the question about the Salish First Nations?
They just want to know if you have contact with them.
I haven't.
I, you know, had contemplated...
Maybe doing a follow-up, a couple of interviews, or possibly building some more documented evidence of this thing existing.
And by doing that, talking to tribe elders and the natives that live in these areas.
But if you watch my documentary, some of these people are speaking at the very starting when there was reports in 2016.
Quite recently, of the vocalizations that were happening at night.
I haven't, but I don't rule it out.
I'm a filmmaker that basically runs with a story when it's presented to me and when it's a really good story.
So if I can be put in touch with subjects from the Salish, I'd be more than happy to talk with them and find out their thoughts about the subject.
Oh, very cool.
So, let's see.
Someone was saying, you know, are they recorded?
And I've already mentioned that they are.
And you do have some of the recording on your documentary so they can listen to it there.
To my knowledge, there's been lots of recordings, actually, of this Bigfoot-like creature.
And would you say that you've heard several different versions over time?
Um, yeah, I mean, well, there's two different vocalizations in my documentary.
One sounds very, very loud, and it's kind of like a, it's a different vocal.
I guess the two vocalizations would be different circumstances.
One would be, at the starting of the documentary, the vocalization is described to be more of like a call-out thing.
We're like a signaling or like a reaching out, you know, like how wolves will howl to each other to sort of alert other wolf packs of their territory, right?
So the beginning of the documentary, it seems to sound like a vocalization that's trying to notify maybe possibly another Sasquatch.
Maybe they're answering each other.
Maybe there's more than one.
In that case, with some audio tape that's been played back from a 1960s encounter that happened with a police officer in the United States.
what happened was they were driving and there was a report that there was this creature pacing a highway and so the police officer pulled his vehicle off to the side of the road and he saw this thing and followed it and also called backup and apparently multiple police cars got out got out to the scene
and when the police sort of were running their spotlight in the forest and and tracking this thing it turned to them and it unleashed this very guttural and throaty sort of scream a very shrill scream and it almost sounds like a car peeling out like you know doing a burnout it's like like a really
I can't even begin to describe it but it sounds very threatening and And I think those two vocalizations would be distinguishable based on their circumstances.
The people that are native Canadians that were recording the first vocalization in 2016 were recording from like their house.
And it was off in a great distance and sounded like it was they were communicating or one was trying to make a communication, but not a threatening communication per se.
And then the tape from the 1960s would have been a threatening communication because police were were following it and not letting it get away.
And it was kind of saying.
piss off.
Someone is asking if you think, I guess this is just your opinion, or if you have reason to believe they might be telepathic.
Not a clue.
I couldn't answer that.
I've never experienced telepathy in my Life, and I believe it could exist, but I have no idea.
So what, I mean, but you don't have anybody reporting any kind of reason to believe they're telepathic, for example, doing or saying or, you know, creating some kind of interaction with them in which they anticipate their moves or that sort of thing?
No, I mean, I haven't.
But I've been trying to follow...
I've been trying to construct the case of this creature existing based on, you know, more evidence like anatomy and trace footprints and eyewitness accounts and vocalizations and all kinds of stuff like that.
Historical reference based on Fossils that possibly could be related to this creature, that type of thing.
I haven't followed any of the sort of interdimensional theories or telepathic theories per se.
I think they're interesting, but they're really hard to prove.
And I'm not saying I wouldn't try to prove it, but it would have to be super, super substantial evidence to prove that.
So I stayed away from it.
Okay.
Someone wants to know if you are familiar with Lloyd Pye's work and or Steven Evan Strong's work.
Yes.
I'm definitely familiar with Lloyd Pye's.
Okay.
And the latter one, Strong?
I think Strong is Australian, he and his son.
Oh, okay.
I think he's actually quite recently traveled to North America and done some study or investigation.
I've heard of it.
The thing is, there's so many sightings, there's so many accounts in regard to this phenomenon, and there's so many people that are taking it seriously.
It's hard to keep up with it.
Lloyd is a quite older gentleman.
He kind of falls into the era that John Green came from, you know, the 1950s, 60s, all that sort of era, when this all started blowing up and becoming a thing that we know today.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I guess, I assume you know that Lloyd Pye passed on, right?
I think a lot of the forefathers of this theory and the phenomenon, they have passed on.
Like John Green, it's sad.
There's not a lot of people that are taking a very academic approach Other than Jeff Meldrum, he's definitely a huge champion in regards to taking this seriously and presenting really good, credible evidence behind it.
And that's got to be hard.
That's got to be super hard.
He's a PhD lecturer at a university.
He's a teacher, a professor at a university.
And in the United States, and, you know, I remember walking the hallways of that university, and there was a couple other professors from totally different professions at the same establishment that I was...
I don't even know how, but the coincidence was so crazy.
They were talking about Jeff Meldrum, and they were talking about him in a bad light.
Because they don't like the fact that their university has this guy that's taken something seriously that should be taken seriously but is controversial because the mainstream media and a lot of other academics want to take the safe approach and only study things that are mainstream or widely accepted.
And they were For less of a better term, trash talking.
I was kind of blown away.
And then when I was actually interviewing him, talking to him personally while I was setting up the camera and all kinds of stuff like that, he was saying how a physics professor at his university was writing in the Idaho State University's Gazette newspaper.
That basically he was a crackpot and his theories were unfound and he wasn't a professional and all this stuff.
And then Jeff Meldrum would fire back at him and invite him to lectures or invite him to debates that he was having.
And the guy would sit in the crowd and stay quiet until...
The presentation was completely done and then try to attract attention to himself after when people were leaving because Jeff Meldrum is just so armed to the teeth with evidence about this creature's existence.
It would be great to see him on a nationally broadcasted television like CNN or You know, or Fox or something like that, and really gave him some time to describe why this should be taken seriously in mainstream science and why it hasn't been so far.
He would be able to answer so many of these questions better than me.
I'm a filmmaker.
I've picked up these things over the years that I've studied it.
But that guy's a real hero to me and I think he should be for a lot of people because he stands in the face of adversity in his hometown, in his daily work, and in general, in society.
Well, you're welcome to let him contact me and I'll have him on my show.
I'd be happy to.
And along those lines, this is the last question I'm going to take from the chat.
Someone is asking, and I guess this relates to perhaps this person, this professor, do they set up cameras with, you know, I guess, thermal imaging and also in Faraday cages, they're saying, night vision, that sort of thing.
So do you know if he does do that on a regular basis?
Yeah, I think he does.
And, you know, there are researchers that do the same thing.
There's a lot of game cameras put out there, night vision cameras, thermal imagery, all kinds of stuff.
But you got to keep in mind that that stuff gets tampered with by normal game all the time.
Like a bear...
A cougar, if they don't like the scent of a camera that's set up on a tree or something, they will demolish it.
They'll take it apart.
You know, there's a really cool, the new BBC Planet Earth series came out, and one of the Planet Earth diaries that follows the actual making of one of the episodes where they're trying to capture footage of this elusive tiger.
Every time they set up the game camera, it was being ripped apart by multiple different types of animals.
An elephant destroyed one, I think a rare type of bear destroyed one, and a tiger demolished another, and you very rarely saw the actual creature that was doing it.
Now, would Sasquatch be ripping one of these apart?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't think that they want to be approached by us.
I think if anything, they want to be as far away from us as possible.
Because there is a pattern with human beings.
Everywhere we go, we tend to destroy and invade a territory like no other species on this planet.
So I think if they hear us coming or what have you, they definitely, in most cases, want to be going the other way.
Yeah, there are hunters, and there's hunters that have captured imagery.
You can go online and just Google it.
Interesting imagery that looks like some kind of ape or gorilla-type creature has sat down in front of one of these game cameras.
It doesn't look like a bear, and that could be evidence right there.
There are pictures and there is footage that have come from these types of devices.
Yeah, very interesting.
So, well, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show, for sharing your background regarding your documentary and for doing the documentary in the first place.
Do you want to give out your website?
And, you know, I have the link on my site for people to click over, but...
Also let people know how to find you, etc.
Cool, yeah.
So my website is occultjourneys.com.
And, you know, as I create new documentaries and media, I'll be posting trailers and stuff on there.
I have a YouTube channel, d.weir.
That's where I produced some of my other stuff before.
And you can find...
I can probably jump onto the YouTube channel.
Let me see...
And I can put the links to my documentary, The Unwanted Sasquatch, and you can see that on YouTube.
You can also see that on Amazon Prime and should be coming out for other platforms as well.
Excellent.
Okay.
Well, thank you so much, Darcy.
And, you know, stay in touch.
And like I said, if the professor...
Jeff, I'm not sure how you say his last name, Malmstrom or whatever.
Meldrum.
Meldrum.
If he would like to come on the show and talk some more about this and his own research.
He is welcome to do so and you can join him if you like or however he'd like to handle it.
So you do have my contact information.
Thanks everyone for watching and I want to say good night.
Thanks again for being on the show Darcy and everyone have a great night and I just want to let you know that I am hard at work at getting the Mark Richards' interview out there.
So that should be in the next day or two.
And I should have the John Lear as well.
Some groundbreaking information in both of those.
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Thanks for having me, Carrie.
It's been a pleasure and I hope everybody's doing well out there.
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