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April 13, 2016 - Project Camelot

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KERRY INTERVIEWS JOSEPH CERLETTI: ABDUCTEE/ MISSING TIME

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	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone.
	Please stand by.
	We're going to be starting in just a moment.
	I believe we are live, but I need to actually do one thing and sign into the chat here so that I can see what's going on and get the questions and so on.
	Okay.
	Okay, and Joe, let me say, just as we're starting here, just remember that if we do get echo, we're going to be muting our mics when the other person is talking, okay?
	Okay, okay.
	Let me turn my volume down if I can do that real quick.
	Just in case there is echo.
	There may not be.
	You might not have to worry about that, but just in case.
	Cool.
	Hi, everyone.
	This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and happy to be here tonight.
	And Joe Sirletti, I'm not sure if I'm saying your name right, Joe, is my guest.
	And I'm going to read a short bio for him.
	And so if you stand by, it is on my website.
	And assuming you're watching this, it looks like you have a regression list.
	There's a hypnotherapist named Lori McDonald and her link is on our website as well.
	She has given permission for You did release her name so that other people might contact her if they have had similar missing time or abduction experiences, correct?
	Correct, and Lori was the first hypnosis session that I ever had to recall this missing time episode.
	I also had a second hypnosis session with someone named Solreta Antaria, who's from Melbourne, Australia, and she's more of a psychic I'm an ET contactor.
	She teaches people how to connect with the energies of the ETs, and she did a really good job, too.
	Okay, great.
	And you know what?
	I don't even know how I came across your interview or your information.
	It was just sort of a serendipity, I think.
	Maybe someone sent it to me, but I actually don't know.
	I was going to ask you about that.
	Yeah, it's just interesting how certain things stand out.
	You know, God knows there's plenty of people online who have had abduction experiences, but some reason I decided I needed to contact you and I wanted to hear your story.
	So thank you for coming on the show.
	Thank you so much for inviting me for my first interview.
	I can't tell you how honored I am, Carrie.
	Okay, great.
	So what I'm going to do now is just read your short bio here.
	And basically it says that Joe grew up and is currently, he is residing in Concord, California near Mount Diablo.
	And works in the medical cannabis community in San Francisco.
	He is an ET contactee, psychic tarot card reader, and he is host of a YouTube channel called Zero Dark Radio.
	Let's see.
	It says that one night in 2008, you and two friends had a bizarre missing time experience in Oakland, California, while driving on the freeway with two other occupants.
	In a split second, They went from driving to being in a parked, not moving car at a Great America theme park after hours.
	It took years for Joe to come to the conclusion of what happened that night, which was a missing time phenomena and researched as an expert in hypnosis and was researched by experts in hypnosis who could fill in what happened next.
	I guess between the time and question.
	So you basically had, as you say, two hypnotherapists that you then contacted.
	So why don't we just start at the beginning here and hear how you came to have this experience, have a memory, and then the people you contacted In what order and how that all transpired.
	So go right ahead.
	Okay, so let me start with the night in question.
	I was driving in the car with two friends.
	We were driving through Oakland, California and in a split second we weren't driving anymore.
	We were parked.
	The car wasn't running anymore and we were just, what the hell just happened?
	Were we not just moving on the freeway?
	Yes.
	Were we not just passing Jackson Street?
	Yes.
	We're frantically looking around, and we realize we're at Great America, which is about 40 miles away.
	And we all recollected the same last memory, which was passing Jackson Street in Oakland, California.
	So we realized we're in Great America parking lot.
	We had somehow traversed an impossible distance.
	The park was closed.
	We're the only car in the parking lot.
	And to get out, I think I remember having to lift up the gate and being extremely worried that security was going to roll up on us.
	And I remember the whole drive home was just like the weirdest shock feeling.
	We didn't talk about it.
	It was just so bizarre.
	I mean, it was a state of shock, really.
	We maybe talked about it a couple times the next day, but the odd thing is it just kind of slipped out of my mind.
	I don't know if I did that subconsciously or if it was the blocked memories, because like I said, we didn't know what happened.
	We just, like that, had traversed an impossible distance, and we all had the same exact last memory.
	There was no...
	No, we were driving, you know, a couple minutes ago.
	No, we were just driving past Jackson Street, and now the car is turned off, and we're sitting in a parking lot.
	So, years go by, and...
	This was a very stressful time for me, and looking back, it's probably because of the subconscious memories that were blocked in my head that were trying to come out.
	And I remember one night, I was watching a random YouTube video, which was total serpendipity, as you said.
	And I started thinking, have I ever had a missing time episode?
	And I remember coming to the conclusion, no, no, I've never had a missing time episode.
	And like 20 minutes into the documentary, it all, it slapped me in the face so hard.
	And I immediately emailed my two friends, Kirk and Justin, who were in the car with me at the time.
	And they said, yeah, I remember that night.
	Justin, I have not been able to get a hold of since this incident.
	Kirk, I have been.
	At first, he didn't like talking about it.
	He was kind of like, I remember it, but let's not talk.
	This is just odd and bizarre.
	You're kind of crazy talking.
	Let's not do this.
	And now recently he's been talking about it more and saying, no, I totally remember being in the car and I remember you two freaking out, but I admit that's all I remember.
	And that's all I can get out of him.
	That's as far as he will go about the subject.
	He's hesitant to go through hypnosis.
	But it's not up to me to push that on him.
	If it's part of his mission, it's part of his mission.
	I'm not trying to wake him up.
	I'm not trying to make him believe in aliens or anything.
	The fact of the matter is we were in the car together when that happened, and if he wants to have these memories filled in, he can do what I did.
	But that's about as far as that goes.
	So finding a hypnotherapist, that took months of courage because the question that kept going through my head was, Do you really want to remember what happened?
	And not only that, but what if nothing happened?
	That was my biggest fear.
	And what happens if you spend all this money and nothing happened and you just think you're crazy, you know?
	And I remember expecting maybe, yeah, something will happen.
	There will be some grey aliens there.
	I never really researched alien species before.
	I knew about the greys.
	I knew about the reptilians.
	I'd heard about those guys.
	But those were just so bizarre and out there, the reptilians.
	I didn't really think about it.
	So I was expecting to have some, oh, we were on a ship, and there's grey aliens there, and that would be that, and I'd be satisfied.
	But...
	If you guys haven't seen the video, I could sit here and tell you about it for hours.
	But if you watch the video for yourself, you'll see what it was like in the room when I remembered these memories.
	And it's basically like the emotions of being in the UFO that night coming back to me.
	And how did I find my hypnotherapist?
	That's very important because there's probably people listening to this right now that are wondering the same question.
	There's multiple ways to do it.
	I looked up online.
	What's very important, first of all, you have to have a hypnotherapist that you'll be comfortable with to talk about alien abduction.
	That was something I was also nervous about because I didn't want to go to some hypnotherapist and have them sitting there judging me.
	So I looked up hypnotherapists, California, my state.
	So that's what you should do.
	Go on Google, hypnotherapists, your state, that specialize in missing time or ET contact.
	It took a couple of days of digging, and I found Lori McDonald of True You Hypnotherapy, and she's in Sacramento, California.
	I contacted her.
	She asked me some questions first about the Missing Time episode, and then she said, yes, I'd be open to giving you a hypnotherapy session, and I scheduled it for that week.
	She allowed me to bring a camera in, but she said, if you're going to put this on YouTube, don't name me and don't have my face in it, which some people thought was sketchy, but I really don't care, to be honest with you, because now we're giving her name out there.
	And she did an excellent job in filling in the missing time for me.
	Okay, but somehow you also got to a woman in Australia.
	Now, what was her name again?
	Her name is Solreta Antaria, and she's Peter Maxwell Slattery's partner.
	I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
	He's also an ET contactee in Australia.
	They're very well known out there, and Mary Rodwell is very familiar with these two.
	Okay, see, I think I saw your regression with The Woman in Australia.
	Okay, okay.
	And then I also watched The Woman in Australia, I think, I guess it was her, being regressed by Mary Rodwell.
	Uh-huh.
	Correct.
	So I saw two videos, and it sparked my interest.
	I don't think, is there a video of Laurie MacDonald and you as well?
	Yeah, it's right there on the channel.
	I thought that was the one you saw.
	Yeah.
	Maybe I have it mixed up.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	In the video I'm talking about with Lori, there's no Skype.
	It was live in the room.
	Okay.
	Did you see that video?
	No, no, it's been a couple weeks.
	I'm not sure what, you know, since we...
	I saw your...
	I was struck by, you know, I thought you were very authentic.
	I thought she was very...
	The woman you were dealing with was quite gentle.
	She did seem to be on Skype, I think.
	Yes, that was Sorita.
	And, you know, some of the people, and it's a very good question...
	Some people have a hard time understanding this.
	My first session was extremely emotional.
	It was extremely intense.
	It was such a psychic-charged...
	I can't even begin to describe to you.
	The whole room was just electric, the first session I had, okay?
	And that was to fill in missing time.
	The second session with Sorata, my mind was more open to hypnosis, and it was more of a gentle way into the deep subconscious.
	And the more you go into hypnosis, it's an easier shift into that mode.
	Okay.
	Now, in terms of what happened, I'm wondering if prior to this incident, do you have any other memories of, you know, as a child seeing UFOs, having, for example, family members who saw UFOs or anything like that, or watching sci-fi movies and getting memories or any of that stuff?
	I could tell you a hundred, I mean, not maybe close to a hundred different stories, but as far as me and family goes, okay, so as early, according to my mother, I was adopted, according to my adoptive mother, she says that ever since before I could read and barely talk, like in a car seat, I would speak out the street signs and it would totally creep her out.
	My birth mother, my biological mother, claims that she had UFO sightings while she was pregnant with me.
	She had a crazy missing time experience while she was driving too.
	Yes.
	And where were you born?
	I was born in Vallejo, California, which is right north of where I am right now.
	Okay, because are you familiar?
	Now, I found you, but had you ever been familiar with Camelot at that time or prior to the experience?
	Yes, and I have a very interesting, very scary and interesting story to tell you about.
	I'll get into in a second here.
	Why do you ask?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I ask questions based on intuition.
	Okay, okay.
	The information that comes to me while I'm doing an interview.
	So, that's why.
	Then I'll tell the story.
	I saw your John Lear video and it blew me away, okay?
	And here's another Serpendipity moment.
	I was in Las Vegas when I came across that video.
	I shot other Seneca.
	Let me turn my volume down here.
	I shoot John Lear an email, okay?
	I don't know where he lives.
	I have no idea.
	Oh, I'm in Las Vegas.
	Come on over, buddy.
	We'll come over, talk about UFOs, all this stuff.
	This is like hours after I saw your video, okay?
	Within hours, I'm at John Lear's house, okay?
	After seeing your video.
	Now, at this time, okay, I was very deeply involved in trying to become a 911 dispatcher.
	I had already passed background checks, polygraph tests, I had signed a conditional offer of employment.
	This was with Palo Alto Police Department, which I understand you were born in that area, okay?
	For an entire year, Kerry, I was jumping through hundreds of hoops every week.
	Tests.
	I went through a polygraph test.
	I was interviewed by detectives, a panel of cops, you name it, for an entire year.
	And I passed, passed, passed, passed, passed, passed, passed.
	So I finally go in, meet the police chief.
	They basically say, okay, sign this conditional offer of employment.
	We start talking about the job.
	We shake hands.
	You'll basically start in two weeks.
	You'll get a contract.
	Wait for the contract in the mail.
	I'm ecstatic.
	I am so happy with my life at this point.
	That weekend, this John Lear thing happens.
	I go to his house.
	We talk.
	After I leave his house, we continue to talk.
	Within a few days, I received a letter in the mail that said, sorry buddy, you can't work for us.
	I'd been blacklisted.
	And it totally broke my heart because the background checks were totally finished months before.
	There was nothing that could have changed that but the John Lear thing.
	Okay, that's very interesting.
	And I guess you'll have to ask me to mute yourself up so I can talk to you.
	Sorry, there's a little bit of echo.
	Yeah, that's why...
	If you go mute for the moment, that'll help me.
	And then unmute yourself after I ask you the question.
	Okay, so that's very interesting because, you know, I want to make sure we get the timing correct.
	So...
	Are you saying that you watched my video, you got in touch with John Lear, and at the same time, prior to that, you had been going through this interview process?
	And is this all prior to the Missing Time abduction in 2008?
	Or is this after it?
	It was after the missing time episode occurred four years before.
	And hopefully the echo thing will go away.
	Sometimes it comes and goes.
	It's weird.
	Okay, and we've got a bunch of pictures here as well.
	And can you tell me about these pictures, how they relate to the incident and so on?
	But just to get this clear, so in 2008 you had the experience.
	How many years after that did you get the regression?
	I got the regression.
	Yeah.
	2015, July of 2015.
	Okay.
	And the John Lear experience, when did that happen?
	John Lear occurred in mid-2014 or late, yeah, around that time.
	So I get blacklisted.
	I have no job opportunity, okay?
	Everything's just, what the hell am I going to do now, man?
	You know?
	But another serpendipity thing, okay?
	Everything just sort of fell into my lap after this.
	It was like, don't go in that direction.
	Go in this direction.
	It was like, everything just kind of fell in my lap.
	I mean, God, I could go on for hours about it.
	But basically, that's how it works.
	Okay, so your life kind of changed.
	That would be an understatement.
	Okay.
	Now, to get back to the incident, you remembered nothing that night, I assume.
	You and her friends in Great America.
	And are you aware of Moffat Field?
	You know about Moffat Field?
	Had you ever known that there was an underground base there?
	Not until a couple days ago.
	And it totally chilled me to my core.
	Okay.
	And I googled how far Moffett Field was from Great America, and it's a 15-minute drive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, because I grew up in the Bay Area, and yes, I was born in Palo Alto.
	In fact, I was born in Moffett Field Hospital.
	And information is that I was basically a MyLab.
	And some of that comes from my interview with Norm Bergram, who talked about the ringmakers of Saturn, as he calls them, and he wrote a book about that.
	Well, he's a physicist, as I remember, and he's actually disappeared now back into black projects.
	So can you tell us about, do you want to walk us through these pictures, and why did you send the pictures to me?
	Because I'm just some kid that posted a hypnosis video online.
	And I want to prove to people that there's more than just this hypnosis thing that I posted online.
	That there's been a lot of weird stuff going on in my life.
	I could tell you stories.
	I could take pictures.
	I could pull friends.
	I could pull family and have them tell you stories.
	I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
	Okay, what kind of stories, when you say you could tell me stories, are you talking about paranormal experiences?
	Are you talking about a combination of paranormal and ET? What would you say?
	A combination of...
	God, how do I start?
	Okay, let me start with this.
	The family I was adopted into, the Cerletti family, Have you ever heard of Ugo Sirletti?
	He invented electroshock therapy.
	Oh, you're kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	He's known the guy.
	He did it.
	He's the electroshock guy.
	He worked for Mussolini, the Italian fascists.
	You can safely assume he was involved in Nazi black projects, all that type of stuff, okay?
	And he came to America?
	Did he come to America?
	Nope.
	Okay, so is this a grandfather, a great-grandfather?
	He's like a great-uncle.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So he spent his life out there in Italy during this whole fascism era, and look him up.
	Okay, so that's on my adoptive side.
	A couple years ago, during this whole dispatch thing, this was before the John went home, I tracked down my biological birth father, okay?
	And...
	My birth mother came over some week after that because she wanted to talk and tell me all these stories about my birth father.
	And she said, oh, and by the way, on our side of the family, your great uncle was heavily involved.
	He was the first detective on the scene of the Zodiac killing on Lake Herman Road.
	He was the first detective on the scene there.
	He had a very hot suspect.
	One day, he was discussing it with his FBI buddies.
	His FBI buddies told him to back off this guy because he was under surveillance by the federal government and by Naval Intelligence because the Zodiac, my uncle's suspect...
	There's my dog barking.
	The Zodiac...
	What the hell was I just saying?
	Naval Intelligence guys were surveilling the suspect that my uncle was also interested in, okay?
	They tell my uncle to back off.
	My uncle didn't back off.
	He brought him in for questioning, and to date, he's the only guy that ever brought this guy in for questioning.
	Within a couple of...
	Yeah.
	Have you studied the case?
	Is there...
	You know, I have to say, I don't know a lot about that case.
	Yes.
	Although I have heard there is some occult significance to that case.
	Very briefly, can you...
	Do you know...
	I mean, because you're bringing that up, what...
	What relationship does that have to anything, do you think?
	Well, God, it's just so weird because, okay, my uncle's suspect, this guy, on the long, long list of all the suspects, my uncle's suspect was the only guy trained in cryptography, and he was in secret Navy programs during World War II. This guy was an older gentleman while he was doing the killings.
	He was in his 40s or 50s, okay?
	He was an alcoholic.
	He hated women.
	He was using false identities.
	While he was under surveillance by the FBI and stuff, they were noticing that he was using false identities everywhere.
	He was described as a criminal genius.
	Why is this significant?
	They called him the Zodiac.
	Look up what the definition of Zodiac is.
	It's all astrology stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	And he was involved in secret stuff in World War II. Are you saying the suspect was or the guy they caught?
	The suspect was they never caught a guy.
	Oh, you're kidding.
	No, and here's where it gets weird.
	My uncle brings guy in for questioning.
	Whatever happens, happens.
	Within hours, my uncle gets called in to the judges' chambers, I think by the district attorney of Solano County.
	He says, get your ass over here immediately.
	I need to talk to you right now.
	He runs over to the judges' chambers.
	He says, who's this guy you just brought in for questioning?
	Sir, he's a very prime suspect.
	I saw him driving up and down shortly after the murders.
	You know, this and that.
	He's very, I'm very, no, just drop it.
	Drop it.
	This guy's wife, she's very close with me.
	And we would later find out that they were having a sexual relationship, the district attorney and this guy's wife.
	But that's a whole other topic.
	He said, burn your files and don't ever bother this guy again.
	Wow.
	He did it.
	So, I contacted an author of this book, Zodiac Killer Cover-Up, because I didn't know anything about Zodiac.
	I just thought it was cuckoo.
	And then I find out my relative was the detective on the scene, and that solving dark mysteries runs in my DNA, and being on the brink of one of the brightest truths runs in my DNA. And I contacted Lyndon Lafferty, who was a police officer, and he worked very closely with my uncle on this case.
	And it's just an amazing, creepy story.
	And there's just so much weird stuff that has gone in, and not only my biological family, but my adoptive family.
	Yeah, okay.
	So what we're talking about is a lot of mind control stuff, MKUltra.
	It could be.
	It sounds like it.
	Okay, very interesting.
	Well, good for you for being, you know, smart enough to start investigating.
	That's actually very cool that you would do that.
	So now what I'm going to do is go to your photographs and bring them on the screen here and see if we can show them.
	And I don't know, it's just random at the moment.
	It looks like the first one's showing up here.
	You can see it on the screen, what we're showing the audience.
	I'll try to Frame it a little better, but go ahead and talk about it while I'm doing that.
	Okay, is there any way you could click the third one so we can explain how to start it?
	Cool.
	Is this better?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so this is how it started, okay?
	Shortly after my hypnosis session, a friend of mine contacted me and he just insisted that we do this paranormal experiment with his camera, because if there's any paranormal stuff actually happening around me, that it'll show up in this experiment that he had, okay?
	So he came over, he brought over his camera, and this is how it works, okay?
	Theoretically, you put the camera here in front of the TV, And nothing is supposed to happen, but it is said that if there's paranormal occurrences around you, the camera will start matrixing and producing impossible patterns and images related to the paranormal occurrences around you.
	Okay?
	So, the first 30 seconds, it was all white.
	And I should also mention These images flash so fast, you can't see them with the naked eye.
	You have to photograph it with your camera, okay?
	Okay, can I ask you right now, and for people that are wondering, that's my cat in the background.
	He was crying a minute ago.
	He always likes to get in the act, and he actually was just sharpening his nails, so sorry for the distraction.
	But what I want to say here is, when did you shoot these pictures, and Was this, again, recent?
	Can you tell me again exactly?
	This occurred very shortly after the first hypnosis session that I had.
	Okay.
	Do you know the year?
	2014.
	It would have been July 2015.
	2015.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so this is how it started.
	The first 30 seconds were like this.
	I took the first picture and it was all white.
	And I was like, nothing's going to happen.
	He's going to think I'm crazy.
	He's going to think I'm an idiot.
	This isn't going to work.
	I'm wasting my time.
	Well, this next picture pops up.
	Let's see here.
	I'm not sure where it is.
	I can't really see it.
	But go ahead.
	You can pick anyone you want.
	It doesn't really matter.
	Okay, well...
	Okay, here we go.
	Here's what appears to be dozens of alien faces and then two big alien faces.
	It's like two big alien faces and dozens of alien faces filling in the big ones.
	Do you see what I mean?
	The two eyes and...
	Okay.
	It's hard to see.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's like dozens of small alien heads next to each other, matrixing.
	Okay.
	And then there's two big ones, like, I don't know, you see the two eyes, and there's really no mouth.
	It's just like a white face with two eyes, and there's dozens of faces, and it looks alien.
	Okay.
	That was the first picture that popped up.
	The deep space one was the first image that popped up.
	It looked like Hubble telescope images started appearing, like deep space kind of stuff.
	Okay, so what about this?
	That was the second one that popped up, and it's almost like a mix of deep space in the background with an alien gray face.
	You see the two eyes and the head.
	And the stars in the background.
	Like, it's almost like deep space, and it's like he's projecting his energy.
	It's like an alien gray energy.
	You see the two eyes are kind of really kind of far apart there because his face is so up close.
	They're almost on opposite sides of the screen, the eyes.
	Oh, all right.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	So...
	That was the second picture popped up.
	Okay, do you want me to go to this one?
	Let's go up to the green one.
	Okay.
	Because that one's the creepiest, okay?
	That one appears to be a man.
	It looks like a man figure wearing a trench coat and a top hat, and next to him is an alien face.
	You're saying in this green picture, that's what you see?
	That's what I see.
	To the left, it looks like a lengthy...
	Like, form.
	It almost looks like the Invisible Man or your typical Men in Black.
	It's like a lengthy trench coat and a top hat kind of thing.
	And then to the right of him is an alien face.
	Alright.
	And it's all green.
	And notice the Matrix thing.
	How it's like a weird...
	God, it's like a fingerprint kind of thing.
	And there's like intricate alien weird stuff going on in it too.
	And it just...
	This is when it started getting really intense and after two minutes of doing this, I had to stop.
	I'll never do it again because it was very...
	Okay, let me ask you something about these pictures.
	So you're saying the camera was on.
	You were in the room, I assume.
	Yes.
	Near the camera or were you taking the pictures or were you just sitting there?
	So, how it works is like, I don't really understand how you do it, but how he explained it to me is, you plug the camera into the HDTV, okay?
	Right.
	And then you have the lens, like, zoom into itself.
	And after a minute, it starts matrixing, and any paranormal energy should be able to make images show up on the TV. Hmm.
	Okay, so if I click another picture, like, do you want me to go to the bottom?
	You know, because I don't know which one to go to.
	That's a picture of me with the author of the Zodiac book, the guy that worked closely with my uncle, Sergeant Les Lundblad.
	That was my uncle's name.
	The man in that picture there, his name is Lyndon Lafferty.
	He was a very great man.
	He actually recently passed away.
	Wow.
	He wrote the Zodiac book?
	Correct, and he worked right alongside with my uncle.
	What was the conclusion at the end of his book?
	What was the conclusion he came to?
	That this guy was being protected.
	Okay, so that your uncle had found the right person, but the witness was being protected.
	He had no question in his mind that my uncle found the right guy.
	Now, was your uncle alive, or is he still alive, or did he pass on?
	He passed in the 70s.
	I never met him.
	Oh, interesting.
	Okay.
	Here's another thing I should mention.
	Yeah.
	His wife was sick during this time that he was told not to pursue Zodiac, and if he lost his job, he wouldn't have been able to support it.
	He would have lost his pension at that late age.
	So he was threatened with his pension and his wife being sick, and he couldn't pursue it anymore.
	So he kind of secretly pursued it, but he really handed it over to Lyndon.
	Lyndon was the guy who really started doing the gumshoe work, because my uncle couldn't do it anymore.
	Yeah.
	Very interesting.
	Okay, so skipping back to these photos that you're showing, you know, that we're talking about, is this a photo you want me to show?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's just, I mean, I've never, I'm going to be honest, I've never caught some grade A UFO pictures, but that was a triangle UFO picture that I caught over the Mount Diablo area.
	This would have been about a year ago.
	Okay, and the one below it, same thing?
	Yep, and that appears to be a flying saucer, and it appeared, it was like a red blinking light, and it was just giving me the weirdest feeling.
	The weirdest feeling, Kerry.
	And I had to take out my picture, and I took a, I started videotaping it, but nothing showed up.
	And then I took a picture of it, and that's what showed up.
	Yeah, that's a very good picture, that one there.
	And you know what else is kind of weird?
	How I mentioned the red blinking light.
	You can see like a thing in the middle almost where the, I don't know, where the light would be.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	Also at the tips, looks like.
	Yep.
	Some lights.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Now can we go to this one?
	Mm-hmm.
	That was the first image that showed up on the experiment, and that was how it started.
	It was just like deep space kind of stuff.
	It looked like stuff you would look at when you look at Hubble telescope images.
	These were the first images that started appearing on screen, and it made it very evident to us that we were connecting with energies from elsewhere in our cosmos.
	Okay, now...
	Go ahead.
	You and your friend did this, is that correct?
	Correct.
	Did your friend get weirded out?
	He got very weirded out.
	But probably as much as I got weirded out.
	I was the guy that said, we've got to stop now.
	Okay, so how long did you do this experiment before you decided to stop?
	Two minutes.
	Because, Carrie, it got so weird so fast.
	I remember the last 20 seconds of it.
	Like I was saying, you have to take pictures for it because these images flash so fast you can't see them with the naked eye.
	The last 20 or 30 seconds, the alien face was just clearly showing itself on the TV and it wouldn't leave.
	It was just like there, like kind of moving around like this.
	The whole room was just electric.
	It was so bizarre.
	The feeling in the room, it was just charged.
	And it was almost like dude was in shock, like, what the hell am I looking at?
	Is this real?
	We gotta stop.
	This is just too weird.
	I don't know what we're in contact with right now.
	This is getting too bizarre for me, man.
	We gotta shut this off.
	Okay, had the person that you did this with, was it their idea?
	Was it your idea?
	And had you done this before or had he done it before?
	It was his idea.
	He had done it before.
	I had never heard about it.
	Did he get weirded out when he did it before?
	Yes, but when he did it before, ghost images showed up.
	He was expecting ghost stuff to show up.
	He wasn't expecting alien stuff to show up.
	He was expecting poltergeist kind of stuff.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	That's why he got...
	Really weirded out.
	I think he didn't, at the time, believe in extraterrestrials, and he thought, dude, no, you're going in the totally wrong direction, man.
	It's all about ghost stuff, and this and that, and then all of a sudden, these deep space images show up, and alien faces are on the screen, and he's, you know...
	Okay, alright.
	It was...
	I'm going to be honest, Carrie, that was a very uncomfortable...
	Okay, fair enough.
	Thank you for showing us those pictures.
	I think it's quite fascinating what you see in them, because I can't really see what you see in them, but I do see there's something there.
	I don't know, should there be nothing?
	That's what theory says.
	There should be nothing there.
	Okay.
	So, in terms of, again, to get back to your abduction, What, you know, again, I saw this, I was struck by it, I contacted you.
	It really happened like that.
	And so, I don't remember the exact details of what you said, although it seemed like you had...
	You had interaction with various beings.
	Can you talk about that?
	Okay, and can you also talk about when you had the experience in the abduction, like in the experience, and you were having the regression?
	During the regression, you know, was it normal or did you feel comfortable with the interactions that you were having with the beings?
	And was it later that you maybe had different thoughts about it?
	Or was it all the same all the time?
	Like, Did it change?
	In other words, did it change?
	Did your perceptions of what you were dealing with change?
	And has it even changed over time when you think about it?
	Well, before I forget the last question, nothing changed.
	Everything stayed the same after.
	Nothing in my mind has been like, well, this and that, this and that.
	Maybe the day after, some of the things, it's like, oh, that makes sense, and that makes sense.
	I mean, there was so much information coming through.
	I still watch it, and I learn something new every time.
	I mean, there's so much information that they threw at me.
	What was the other questions you asked?
	The question was during the regression, and you were in the abduction.
	Yes.
	We're communicating with the various beings.
	What are you feeling during that time, and can you describe the beings for some other people?
	Yeah, absolutely, and I'm really happy you brought that up.
	Let me talk about the tall whites first, okay?
	Because there's very little information about them, and I find it fascinating because I had never heard of these things before my hypnosis session.
	And when I looked up tall white aliens, there was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	There's a lot of disinformation out right now going out about the tall whites.
	And there's also people that are giving half truths, half disinfo about them.
	That's what my intuition is saying about what's going on with the tall whites.
	I also think about the tall whites, the tall white extraterrestrials.
	We're touching on something very sensitive.
	I don't know what it is, but there's something...
	I don't know.
	Let me interject here.
	Let me interject that you're right, that there's a lot of disinfo out there.
	And it's interesting that you called them tall whites.
	I'm not sure if you coined the phrase or your regressionists did.
	And also, can you describe them?
	And are you talking about Nordics?
	Are you talking about a different group of beings?
	Or, and also...
	Do you know who Charles Hall is and his tall whites?
	I do.
	I know who Charles is.
	I'm talking about a totally different species than the Nordics, okay?
	These guys are about seven feet tall.
	They're tall like the Nordics.
	They're white like milk is how I described it, like cream, just pure milk.
	Like, nope, it's just white, man.
	There's no pigmentation.
	It's just milk, white, okay?
	And what about their hair?
	No?
	Okay.
	So, the ones I saw didn't have hair.
	Okay.
	I've heard people say, well, it depends because if you're looking, there was lights in the room and sometimes you can't see because they have clear hair.
	Maybe they did have clear hair.
	Who knows?
	What I found interesting was Ely, which is the being that I am in close communication with, she had blue eyes, okay?
	Some of the other tall whites had black eyes.
	I don't know if they're wearing some kind of Like, artificial intelligence thing, or what the hell, or if they're not as advanced as Ely, or if Ely is some hybrid.
	I mean, it could be so much different stuff, but that was what kind of freaked me out, was how this one had really deep blue human eyes, and some of them had just black eyes.
	There were other beings in the room, too.
	There was greys.
	There was short greys.
	Which are robotic beings, artificial intelligence.
	They don't have souls like we do.
	They're just literal robots walking around.
	And here's something else.
	They don't communicate with the With the abductees, they don't talk, they just do.
	The people that do the communicating are the medium sized grays, or that's at least what I noticed.
	There was a medium gray that kind of bossed the small ones around.
	And this medium sized gray was a biological being.
	It seemed like it was at least half biological, half robotic.
	There was some life there.
	But it was like a weird energy to it.
	It wasn't like a light energy like the tall whites had.
	So maybe that was...
	What color was the skin?
	Like a dark, like a gray.
	Okay, but taller than the dark.
	Yeah, he would have been probably four and a half feet tall.
	And the small grays would have been like three feet tall.
	And the medium gray would have been like a foot and a half, two feet taller.
	Okay.
	Anything else about the other beings?
	Any other beings in the room?
	Yes.
	There were green beings in the room that Solreda picked up on before my second hypnosis session.
	And when I was sending you the pictures, I haven't looked at these pictures in a really long time.
	I was going through my Google Drive to see what kind of pictures I had saved.
	And I was like, oh my god, that's the green dude.
	Okay, and let me get into the green guys.
	From what I understand, the green guys are from the Vega constellation.
	They're very short.
	They're not...
	Okay, yeah, they're very empathetic, unlike the greys.
	And they work in close conjunction with the beings from Sirius.
	For whatever reason, Vega and Sirius are like this.
	They work very closely.
	When you say the beings from Sirius, are you referring to the tall whites?
	Yes.
	That's what I got was the tall whites were from Sirius, the green guys were from Vega, and the grays were from Zeta Reticuli.
	That was what channeled through me through the session.
	Okay, now, as far as the tall whites, were they skinny?
	Yes, very skinny, very lengthy, and what really, really, really, really creeped me out was, you mentioned Charles Hall, okay?
	He mentioned how the tall whites have four fingers, and it's like, they use their fingers differently and more efficiently than we do.
	They're way longer, their fingers, and it's like, They don't have knuckles like we do.
	Like when I grab this water bottle here, I'm using, you can see I'm just gripping it.
	They use their weird long four fingers and they just kind of wrap around something and hold it like this with their four fingers.
	Right.
	That was kind of cool when I heard Charles Hall talking about that.
	For some reason...
	Do you have mental telepathy with all the beings or only with the tall whites or how did it work?
	I only communicate with Ely because, I'm going to be honest, Carrie, I don't really have good vibes about the green guys or the gray guys.
	I don't know if it's because they're robots or what.
	I just have a better time connecting with the whites for whatever reason, tall, white, extraterrestrials, because they're pure light energy.
	It's almost like a...
	I don't know.
	It's just a very good energy.
	Okay, now I want to ask you, though, If you know about Charles Hall and the Tall Whites, did you know about him and the Tall Whites before you had the experience or did you check into it after?
	I checked into him this week before our interview.
	I have a sense on a psychic level that the beings he's interacting with, and I've read all his books, and I've met him in person, by the way, and I tried to interview him, but his handler wouldn't allow him to be interviewed by me.
	We did get to chat briefly.
	He's a lovely man.
	Did you think that you had met the same tall whites as the one he's talking about?
	Or were they different?
	They're different.
	And I also...
	I think Charles Hall's a great guy, but I also think that he's having some subconscious influence with the misinformation about some of the stuff about the tall whites he's giving out.
	And he's not doing it on purpose.
	He's not doing it on purpose.
	Okay, but for...
	I mean, just, you know, I don't want to spend too long in this.
	I don't want to distract you.
	But when you say he's giving out, what are you talking about?
	Is there any specific information?
	You said, for example, why are you in a position to know if your tall whites were not the same as his tall whites?
	Why do you think you're in a position to know what is true about what he said?
	Okay.
	The tall whites that I was in conjunction with don't work with our government.
	Simple as that.
	They don't want to have anything to do with our government.
	They're the bad guys.
	Our black op program, the tall white ETs do not like...
	Am I misunderstanding you?
	Are you saying that Charles Hall tall whites are the same beings as the ones you saw?
	Or different?
	They're different, and here's why.
	They used to be the same, but they kind of...
	Long, long, long time ago from how I understand it, they went their separate ways and they're doing their own things now.
	So there's a bunch of different tall whites out there, but the ones that me and Charles are talking about are basically identical, but their spiritual goals are different.
	The ones he was meeting with are working with our Black Ops program.
	The ones I'm working with are trying to send positive vibrations to Earth and defeat the Black Ops program.
	Okay.
	Well, that's very interesting because I can say that actually I'm not so sure the ones he's working with are working with the Black Ops, the way you might think, for what it's worth.
	He's not here, so we can't really have that discussion.
	But he didn't really talk about how they work with the government all that much in his books.
	So it is interesting.
	But my understanding is the disinfo that is going out about so-called tall whites is not to do with that group.
	Not even Charles Harrell's group.
	There is some disinfo right now.
	Certain people have come out and used that term.
	But they're talking about a different set of beings completely.
	And there are many sets of Nordics and Nordic-like beings, for example, from Aldebaran, for example, the ones the Nazis worked.
	That's a totally different group of tall whites.
	It is not the same as Charles Hall's tall whites.
	So I think, you know, there could be a bleed-through where people are not understanding Who's talking about what?
	So, you know, but you're right in what you're saying.
	So, you know, as far as picking up the confusion out there, and unfortunately, this disinfo that's going on.
	And let me touch base real quick.
	Charles Hall has great info.
	You should watch all his videos.
	He's very, everything's right on.
	What I was trying to say was, The beings that I'm in contact with, they don't have bases here in joint bases with the US government at all.
	They're not interested.
	They don't want anything to do with that.
	Like, they don't even want to meet.
	They don't want to talk.
	They say, once you wake the hell up and stop doing all this reptilian stuff you're doing, influence, we'll work with you government people.
	But until then, just stay the hell away from us, you know?
	Okay, now you interacted with these beings and it was part of a so-called missing time abduction.
	So how did you characterize that sort of abduction?
	Was this something where you think you had a relationship over the past years?
	Where they were communicating with you, they were kind of picking you up with your permission and having an interaction.
	Is that how you view it?
	Or did you view it against your will?
	In other words, how do you think it happened?
	Okay, so here's how it started.
	I believe in a past life, I accepted a mission on earth.
	Okay?
	That's how it starts.
	Now, was I taken against my will?
	No.
	It was a surprise.
	It was kind of an ambush, okay?
	It was like, boom!
	What the hell is going on?
	Oh my god, aliens are here!
	And, you know, it was just, boom!
	It just dropped in my lap like that.
	Yeah, that's just basically how it works.
	What was the other question you asked?
	Well, you know, because at this moment, you know, you seem to have a very good relationship with Ely, as you call her, and I assume you had a reason for believing she was a she, as opposed to maybe the others, and also she didn't wear these kind of Glasses or whatever.
	And you actually said you're in contact with her now.
	So do you feel that you've developed a relationship or had a relationship with this ET to where she knows who you are and you've dealt with her in the past and so on?
	So here's how it worked.
	Like I said, I accepted a mission here however long ago.
	My soul incarnated on this earth and they watched me.
	They observed for a certain point and then at certain times in your life map, they will come in and they'll do something to you that moves things at a faster pace or Kind of thrusts you forward into a new direction.
	Sometimes they do it for life paths.
	Sometimes they do it for physical purposes.
	Sometimes they do it to save you because, you know, like, for example, you had a scalar attack, okay?
	Sometimes they will come right before something like that's going to happen, and they'll, boom, they'll take you so that something like that won't happen.
	Okay, so when you're saying this, do you feel that you, in other words, have you learned this since your abduction?
	Do you think that you had it before this perspective?
	Or is it through research that you gained this perspective and you read about it and then you also thought, well, yeah, that sounds right.
	It resonates with you, so and so forth.
	Or did all of this come to you in a sort of a download during the experience?
	This all started 100% as a download, okay?
	100% intuition.
	And I remember thinking after my hypnosis session, I was like, God, this is going to sound insane.
	You know, all this stuff.
	And after I started doing deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep research into the stuff I talk about during my hypnosis, that was pure intuition on the spot.
	It was like, no, that makes sense.
	That makes sense.
	The reptilians.
	I never thought about those guys.
	I didn't want to think about them.
	I thought it was bogus.
	I did.
	I thought it was total bogus, bogus, bogus.
	And all of a sudden, here I am in hypnosis talking about, oh, the reptilians, they're influencing us, and they're making our military do all this weird stuff, and our military doesn't even realize they're being psychically influenced for the most part.
	It's like this whole yin and yang effect of there's this light beings and then there's these negative beings and it's this whole energy stuff going on on Earth and it's all about awakening on your mission and it was just so, so bizarre.
	But the reptilians were a great example of one thing that came out during that session and the things I talked about were like, dude, yeah, that's what other people are saying too.
	And that's what really...
	Chilled me to my core.
	I can't describe it to you unless you experience it for yourself, basically, you know?
	Okay.
	Now, do you think that...
	You said, you know, when I asked you, you had prior experiences prior to this, and again, 2008, and you actually didn't get regressed until many years later, yeah?
	2014 seems to be the first time you got regressed.
	Correct.
	Interestingly, around the same time when you saw John Lear, if I have the chronology, correct?
	Yep.
	Also, losing the job by suspicious circumstances.
	So, when you have the 2008 experience, I'm going to ask you this again.
	The prior experiences you had, you may not have believed in reptilians, and still after that experience, you still didn't believe until you re-remembered through regression this information, correct?
	Correct, correct.
	You didn't have flashbacks until you said you were watching the TV show, and suddenly it hit you really hard.
	And this happened in, again, let's just bring up the year that you saw the TV show.
	The year I saw the TV show would have been maybe a year before my hypnosis session, but I should mention that all these times I was watching this UFO stuff, it was a serpendipity moment.
	It wasn't like I was searching it out or anything.
	It was kind of like it fell into my lap, and it forced a thought into my head, and it was like, whoa.
	It sparked a memory, is what you mean.
	Yeah, and it was divine intervention.
	Is how I would describe it, okay?
	Okay, now, but when you were a kid, you're pretty young now, but when you were a kid, you remember even your mother having some issues, you know, things where she thought she might have had missing time.
	Did she talk about that with you?
	Prior to this experience in 2008?
	No, no.
	Many people have come...
	forward with me about experiences that they have had in my family after I came forward.
	Ah, okay.
	People I would have never thought would have talked about it.
	Yeah, very interesting.
	So, you had this in 2008.
	Were you in school at that time?
	Okay, so here's another very interesting story.
	2007, about a year before high school started.
	I wasn't going to school.
	I started, you know, whatever.
	I was skipping school.
	I was having a very hard time.
	This was right before the missing time experience.
	This was about a year before.
	I got sent to, like, a wilderness program.
	And I spent 63 days out in the wilderness learning how to survive and all this stuff.
	And when I came back, I was taking really hard classes at the time, but I spent 63 days out in the wilderness, so I couldn't catch up.
	I was basically forced to drop out, and I took my GED, got that first try, and then years went by.
	Missing time event happens.
	Maybe four or five years of just hell.
	I mean, I'm a wreck after this missing time thing.
	I'm not thinking about it, but subconsciously, my brain is just, something is going on.
	I'm just totally going off the rails for this four or five years.
	And then, just call it another divine, a spiritual intervention, a divine intervention, an awakening, whatever.
	I was like, dude, wake the hell up.
	I had a near-death experience.
	We can talk about that if you'd like.
	That is what really, I think, opened this whole psychic thing and opened my mind to, dude, you really need to start getting more spiritual and appreciating every day you spend on this earth.
	You need to spread joy to people.
	You need to tell people how much they mean to you.
	You need to give hugs as much as you can.
	This is what's important.
	And let me share a real cool piece of info with you.
	I've noticed during my spiritual enlightenment, whatever you want to call it, when people smile or when people laugh or when people tell a good story or something that really happy goes to the core, orbs start showing up.
	When people flash an authentic smile, when they laugh, Orbs start showing up around them.
	I've noticed that.
	So just keep going with that feeling.
	That's all the message is.
	I don't want you to believe in aliens.
	I don't want you to, you know, this and that.
	That's my message to you guys.
	This earth, it's so short.
	It's so, it is.
	It's miserable.
	This is a prison planet that we live on.
	This is a prison planet.
	And if we get it wrong, I hate to tell you this, but you're going to probably have to come back and you're going to do it all over again.
	And it's going to suck so bad.
	So bad.
	So just spread joy.
	Tell people how much they mean to you.
	Be truthful.
	Be honest.
	Do the right thing.
	Okay, now you said you had a life-death experience that kind of stimulated some of where you're at with regard to all of this.
	And so why don't you share that?
	Okay, absolutely.
	Like I said, I was a train wreck at the time.
	I was partying a lot, doing drugs, all that stuff.
	I was trying to kill myself, basically.
	Honestly, that's what I was trying to do.
	I was on a collision course with just a train wreck.
	I was on Oxycontin and alcohol and I overdosed.
	Like that.
	Fell through a glass table.
	And it was just like being in a dream.
	You're just there.
	You don't question it.
	It's not like, how did I get here?
	Where the hell am I? It's just you're there.
	You accept it.
	Everything's happening as it's happening.
	There was no walls.
	There was no floor.
	Everything was white.
	And there was a door right maybe 20 yards in front of me.
	And a guy next to me who had a grip on my arm.
	A super tight grip.
	Incredibly uncomfortable.
	Well, it wasn't uncomfortable because there was no pain.
	But the feeling was, you're not going anywhere, dude.
	You can try to break free.
	You're not breaking free of this grip.
	We're floating or gliding or whatever towards this door.
	And I get this super bad feeling like I'm about to go to the principal's office.
	That was the feeling.
	I just got in trouble and I'm about to go to the principal's office.
	And Guy says to me, once you go through the door, you can never go back.
	Once you go through the door, you can never go back.
	And he just keeps saying it and saying it and saying it, same tone, totally eerie.
	We start getting super close to the door and I'm like, Oh my god, what the hell?
	And I can't break free, and I'm just concentrating so hard.
	I don't want to go through the door.
	I don't want to go through the door.
	Boom!
	My friend had injected Narcane in me that serpentipidly, or whatever you want to call it, I had purchased a couple days before at a pharmacy and taught them how to use in case they needed to save someone's life.
	Okay?
	Boom!
	I wake up.
	I cried for two or three hours straight.
	I called all my relatives.
	I called ex-girlfriends I hadn't talked to.
	I talked to you name it.
	I was just calling all these people, crying, telling them, life is so short.
	I'm so sorry for whatever I did to you.
	You know, giving totally authentic apologies to these people.
	However long the conversation took, boom, on to the next call.
	Boom, on to the next call.
	Boom, on to the next call.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	A week later I went to rehab.
	I was there for a month.
	And I should also mention I've been clean ever since.
	I'm about to come on five years clean.
	While I was there, the last week I'm there, I have a ghost experience.
	I'm in the room.
	I'm going in to go to sleep.
	There's four beds in the room.
	One, one.
	And then across, one, one.
	But there was only two people in the room, me and another guy.
	And the other guy's already asleep in his bed.
	And I noticed there's another guy in the bed next to mine.
	And he's just asleep.
	He's got long hair.
	He's rolled over.
	He's just asleep.
	He's got his bag.
	His bag is next to his bed.
	And I keep looking at this guy because I don't recognize him, which is weird because if you ever go to a rehab...
	Everybody that is new there gets introduced, and you know everybody there, okay?
	I'm like, who the hell is this guy?
	And what else was odd about it I should mention, new people have to go through a week-long thing before they can interact with other people.
	I'm just like, who the hell is this guy?
	I woke up once or twice during the night.
	He's still there sleeping.
	His bag's there.
	I wake up in the morning.
	The guy across the room, he's getting up.
	The bed next to me is totally made.
	There's no bag.
	Nothing.
	And I ask, hey, who's that guy?
	Who's that new guy?
	What?
	Who's that new guy that was sleeping in the bed next to mine?
	He had his bags packed.
	What are you talking about?
	Well, you were sleeping, so you probably didn't notice him.
	So I go and I ask one of the staff people, hey, who's the new guy?
	Can you introduce me?
	What are you talking about?
	There was a new guy in my room last night.
	No, there wasn't.
	I checked on you.
	They check on you every 30 minutes or so to make sure, whatever, okay?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	There was no one in the room.
	I was like, well, maybe you messed up or something.
	Maybe someone else has a record of it.
	So I started asking, and I started picking up weird vibes about it, like, you know, okay?
	There's something to this that they don't want me touching on.
	Ah.
	And basically what happened was I said, is there a ghost in the room?
	And they didn't talk.
	They just said, I'm not going to talk about that.
	So I started looking around for who's been here for a while, who would know other than staff that might have had a similar experience.
	Now, this place that I went to, it was only a month long stay, but thank God there was three or four people there that were having extended stays for whatever reason.
	I think it was court ordered.
	They were there for court-ordered reasons, right?
	And I asked him, dude, what the hell's going on in that room?
	Is there ghosts?
	And he said, oh my god, yeah, that's right.
	A week before you came, the guy that slept in that room, he went home and he killed himself.
	And that night, the emergency door kept swinging open.
	It was like a deadbolt lock.
	And at like 12, 1 in the morning, boom, the alarm goes off, staff comes running, they shut, they lock the door.
	15 minutes later, it happens again.
	Boom, doors, you know, three, four times it happens.
	The next morning they find out, hey, one of your patients killed himself last night.
	Yeah, yeah, I get that.
	So that was what made me realize, dude, psychic phenomenon is real.
	You are on a very positive path compared to the Dark bullshit you were doing before.
	Killing yourself.
	Hurting other people.
	Total reptilian influence.
	Honestly.
	I mean, that's basically what it is.
	It's just dark energies, you know, taking over you.
	You need to work with these new energies.
	You need to start growing.
	You need to start doing this.
	You need to start doing that.
	And that near-death experience totally shook me to my core and Ever since then, I've been able to see orbs, mostly orbs.
	Sometimes I'll see color orbs flying around.
	I'll see flashes of color, which is sometimes extraterrestrial.
	Sometimes I'll see dark shadow figures darting around.
	I've also had an encounter with the men in black I'd like to mention to you before I forget.
	Okay.
	This is also a very eerie story.
	The week I got involved with the medical cannabis industry, or I'm sorry, the month, The first few weeks I got involved with the medical cannabis industry.
	It was exciting, it was great, it was this, it was that.
	We go to a festival in San Francisco.
	It's like a medical marijuana festival or whatever.
	I had watched a Timothy Good thing where he was explaining how he would project for extraterrestrials to come to him and have bizarre meetings.
	I had the weirdest feeling that, dude, if you try this, something's going to happen that week.
	I wanted to try it really bad.
	We get to the hotel, we go to sleep, and the next morning I start throwing up bile, blood.
	I couldn't go.
	I was throwing up so violently that my capillaries burst in my eye.
	My face was just veins.
	I was gray.
	I looked like I died.
	Okay?
	So I laid in bed for hours, hydrated myself.
	I was like, dude, no, whatever.
	You know, just go.
	Go, go, go, go, go.
	So I went.
	It was very hard.
	It was very weak.
	But basically I had a very quick encounter with this tall, blonde hair.
	Girl who walked up to my booth and it was just, boom, electric.
	That electric feeling I described again.
	And she was wearing big designer glasses.
	And she was just smiling at me.
	And I said, can I help you?
	She just kept smiling.
	She had her glasses on.
	Okay.
	And then she just turned around and walked away.
	Now, you know, that was it.
	It was extremely bizarre.
	And these glasses were just, you know she was wearing them for a reason.
	She had no reason to be wearing them and whatever.
	And that electric feeling that transpired between us, it was like, you know who I am and, you know, yeah.
	Okay, so you thought perhaps she was an ET. I think that I wasn't supposed to interact with her.
	That's why I got sick the morning before.
	Someone didn't want me to go to that meeting.
	And she probably did something to my subconscious that, you know, led me to some path that I don't even know about.
	Because who knows why they do half the stuff they do, you know?
	They have their own reasons for why they don't do this and why they do do this.
	So, when was that?
	What year?
	This was last year.
	Okay, now, are you still working for the same company as you were at that time?
	Okay, thank you for asking.
	That's very, very important.
	Within a few weeks after this experience, let me just put it to you this way, that the people I was growing with, they liked to grow cannabis medicinally, okay?
	There was some unexplained, and I can send you a news article after this, okay?
	I'll email it to you.
	There was a power surge, an unexplained power surge on their little block that totally just BOOM! It fried everything.
	Cops showed up and arrested them and I couldn't work for them anymore.
	Okay, yeah.
	I mean, I figured that actually.
	So it sounded like you actually were warned, but you didn't take the warning.
	And you went to work for them anyway, but then somehow, you know, the whole thing had to sort of implode, which is very interesting, you know, because with all due respect to people that have to take, you know, do medical marijuana, there can be problems with that.
	Okay, so I don't want to get into that because it's very controversial and all that.
	So, you know, it has to do with mind control.
	You know, it can be a tool, okay?
	So it can be a tool for healing, and it can also be a tool for problems, just like alcohol, just like, you know, any number of other...
	But if there's one point I want to make about cannabis...
	It's all natural.
	It can be spiritual.
	If you use the tool the way it was meant to be used and you don't bang it and do this and that and abuse it, it'll work miracles for you.
	You need to work with the energies and not abuse them and not be selfish about it and be self-destructive.
	As long as you're responsible, yeah, that's all I have to say about that.
	Okay, yeah, it's a medicinal herb like many things out there.
	There are many such herbs.
	Okay, so let's see.
	Now we have people in the chat.
	Some of them want to ask you questions.
	Is that okay?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, and let me say, are you doing a radio show now or do you just sometimes do your radio show?
	How does that work?
	So, God, another important question, Gary.
	Another thing that kind of imploded.
	Let me just put it to you this way.
	Over the past few months, people that have been very close to me, for whatever reason, just stopped talking to me.
	My editor just stopped talking to me.
	And for a few weeks or months now, I haven't really been able to produce anything because I haven't had an editor to make the videos look interesting and stuff.
	But I'm starting to move forward again with that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, because I hope you will keep doing things.
	I think it's great that you came forward.
	I think it's great that you were trying to do a show.
	And so I want to encourage you to keep doing that.
	Thank you so much, Carrie.
	Now...
	Someone wants to know if you have prior military experience.
	Zero.
	Okay.
	I want to ask you something along those lines.
	Because you have American flag behind you.
	Yeah.
	And you have sort of a really short haircut.
	And that might be why these people ask you that.
	I don't know, you know, what's going through your lines.
	That's a good question, Carrie.
	My hair was long yesterday, and I didn't want to look like your typical pothead.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I just wanted to look presentable.
	The American flag behind me is a World War II old glory flag that my uncle, he took a bayonet in World War II from a Japanese soldier.
	And this flag was presented to my family, and my family gave it to me a few years ago, and I just decided to hang it up one day.
	Okay.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Now, I just want to get back to Moffitt Field just for a minute here.
	Did you ever go there or have any other, you know, knowledge about it?
	Carrie, I'm very happy you asked that.
	Zero times have I been there.
	I know very little about it.
	I heard you mention it.
	I'd love to know everything I can know about this place.
	I've been having a lot of trouble finding information about it.
	I want to know everything there is to know about Moffitt Field.
	There's something about this place that it's really cool and I'm realizing how many secret stuff there is near me.
	Like Lawrence Livermore Labs, it's like 15 minutes right around the corner.
	That's right.
	And I've heard rumors, rumors, I will put them as rumors...
	There is a mag-love system that runs from Lawrence Livermore to the underwater bases in San Francisco to all around the San Francisco Bay Area to Area 51 and all this stuff.
	Even under Mount Diablo, there's supposedly weird stuff.
	And that the CIA has had a heavy presence here since, I don't know, the 80s or 90s.
	For whatever reason, they just started having a lot of influence in this area with all these Weird stuff, but the rumor is there's an underground system that goes all around the Bay Area, and not many people talk about that, and I want to bring that to light.
	Okay, absolutely.
	Yeah, and the trains also go to Dulce and New Mexico and all that.
	Yep.
	And also, well, Nevada, Pine Gap, etc.
	Did you ever...
	You said you were in Nevada, and you said you connected with John Lear.
	Did you ever have any experiences in the casinos or in around that area?
	What do you mean by experiences?
	Like paranormal stuff?
	I mean, just strange occurrences.
	Let me think about that.
	I think I remember seeing weird stuff in the sky, but that's about it.
	No weird experiences with people, nothing like that.
	Well, other than the John Lear thing, I mean, come on.
	You know, your video just falls into my lap.
	I shoot him an email, and, oh, I'm in the same city you're in.
	Come on over, buddy.
	That was, in itself, as bizarre as it could possibly get.
	Of all the characters in Las Vegas, Kerry, related to this UFO topic, who else but John Lear?
	Could have been more of a perfect guy to have sparked all this, you know?
	Well, right.
	You know, that's where there's a connection going on between people that, you know, just like I saw your video and then I thought, yeah, I'm going to have that guy on my show.
	Because, you know, something sparked.
	I just knew right away that, you know, you got a good sense and that you're connected in.
	That you would reveal some good stuff for people that are having similar experiences and so on.
	That's my only goal, Carrie, and I want to make it clear.
	My only goal is to get this information out to as many people as possible.
	I don't want to write books.
	I don't want to make money.
	I do psychic tarot card readings for free on social media.
	I don't charge people for it.
	My goal...
	Isn't to make you believe in UFOs and aliens.
	It's to make you realize we are so lucky to still be breathing right now.
	Right now.
	And you should take this moment to text someone you love and tell them how much you love them.
	Okay?
	That's what life is all about.
	And it's about getting that little ball rolling of positive energy and then it starts getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
	And more opportunities start presenting themselves to you.
	More awesome people start coming your way and it's just...
	That's what my message is.
	And I want to get that out to as many people as possible.
	Okay.
	Now we've got more questions in the chat.
	And so a person wants to know, would you go through regression again?
	Absolutely.
	And I plan on doing it soon.
	And so do me a favor and ask them about Las Vegas.
	Oh, okay.
	Good.
	Okay, I will.
	I don't know why.
	Yeah, no, you're right.
	And it's weird you say that because the next thing – I'm like in shock right now.
	The next thing I was going to say was I think I have more missing time stuff that needs to come out that I haven't even thought about yet.
	I mean the thing that – That really got me lucky was there was two other people in the car with me that night.
	The missing time experience happened.
	I probably would have never thought about it again.
	I would have convinced myself, never happened.
	But the fact that I could reach out to someone and them say, yeah, I remember that, but I don't remember this and that.
	And that was exactly how I felt.
	That was super odd to me.
	And that's...
	I don't know.
	That's...
	You say that neither of those people have been willing to be regressed, right?
	Okay.
	One of them is open to it, but he's hesitant about it.
	But he's like, yeah, I'll do it eventually.
	But right now, it's like, God, this is so weird.
	Second kid, I haven't been able to get a hold of him.
	Now, this is something else very interesting that I probably would have totally forgot about.
	Everyone that was in the car with me that night is doing something that they love as a living.
	It's like they're not working for the man.
	They're not in some 9 to 5 job.
	One of them is a musician and the other guy is a photographer and they're both very happy and they're both doing well and I'm doing what I'm doing and it's a very spiritual path that we're all doing now.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	A person wants to know, are you aware that you have a Native Indian guide?
	Native American guide.
	It's very interesting that they say that because my friend Kirk that I was just talking about has a Native American guide.
	So I don't know if that's what they're picking up on, but I have some weird stories I could tell you about that.
	I was also raised in a Native American area.
	That could be very possible.
	I may have not picked up on him yet.
	Maybe he's going to present himself to me soon because the way I understand it is there's some guides that will present themselves to you at certain times and they kind of work behind the scenes.
	But I do know for a fact that my friend that was in the car with me has a Native American guide.
	And one night, he had a very bizarre experience with this Native American guide where he woke up, Native American guide is standing over him with a deer head, I believe he said, and he had all this beautiful stuff on him and this really strong wind gust started blowing at him and then it just totally creeped him out.
	Okay, when you say you grew up around a Native American area, what area was that?
	Um, Alamo.
	Alamo, California.
	It's right in the Mount Diablo wilderness.
	Rumors to have been an Indian burial ground right on the hill.
	Okay.
	So, very interesting, whoever commented that.
	There's definitely some validity to that.
	I'm very impressed.
	Okay, um, have you seen my interview with Miriam Delicato?
	I haven't watched it, but I browsed through it, and I want to watch it later.
	Okay, because something tells me that it might be interesting for you to have some interaction with her.
	She has a lot of connection to the Hopi and various indigenous tribes.
	That's awesome, Carrie.
	Thank you for that.
	I'll reach out to her.
	My goal really is to spread this message, but Ultimately, when it comes to this UFO topic, I would be happy not making a cent, but if I could just give talks to people and be on shows and talk about this, that's all I want to do.
	I don't want to make a buck.
	I don't want to sell books.
	I just want to spread the message on the internet without making a buck and give people spiritual tarot card readings.
	That's what makes me happy, is doing something for another person that makes me think, damn, they didn't have to do that, so why don't I go do that for someone else?
	And that's what I said again.
	That's what gets the ball rolling.
	That's what fights this negative stuff is when you focus on repairing yourself, getting to know your intuition and your inner core.
	That's the first step to becoming comfortable in your own skin to pay it forward with humanity.
	And once you make it your goal to change someone else's day, they're going to do the same thing and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	That's how we're going to take down these negative energies, these reptilian psychic influences going on on Earth, these black ops.
	We can't do anything.
	Ultimately, the power is in all of us to fight this, whatever's going on right now, because I'm going to tell you something.
	Whatever's going on right now on Earth, it's a major collision course of energies right now.
	ISIS is rearing its head through reptilian influence, and from what I understand, The reptilians are psychically telling them to destroy all these ancient sites.
	Not only that, they're slaughtering people.
	It's an absolute tragedy, and our CIA is protecting ISIS. Not only that, they created ISIS. Our CIA is basically psychically influenced by the reptilians.
	That's something I wanted to get into earlier, but I totally forgot.
	Certain factions of our special forces are also psychically influenced.
	Politicians are influenced.
	People like me and you are influenced, and we don't even realize it because they know that people like me and you have more power than we think.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Someone wants to know, what exactly did the aliens do to you on the ship?
	All I remember was just, it was just, okay, there's still some stuff that I don't remember that I'd like to get into.
	I remember touring the ship, but there's stuff that I didn't get into about.
	What did we do?
	We just laid there and communicated, and I kind of got emotional about it at first.
	They communicated with me telepathically, and then before I knew it, we were back in Great America parking lot.
	Okay, are you aware of any implants?
	I'm not.
	Very important.
	That's a very interesting question.
	I want to figure out if I have one in me or not.
	I probably have energetic implants in me.
	A lot of people don't know this, but aliens can just as easily put energetic implants in you as they can physical ones.
	Sure.
	Simple as that.
	Okay.
	Did you ask the aliens any questions they want to know?
	Yes.
	After this hypnosis session, I'd almost call it a constant channel with Ely.
	I mean, I've asked them almost everything you could think of.
	If you want to know something, just ask and I'd be happy to answer it.
	Okay, so you're in sort of a telepathic communication you feel even now.
	And if you ask him a question, you ask this Elie a question, you feel she gives you an answer and then you have your answer?
	If I'm in the correct state of mind and the energies are right, yeah, it's easy to do that.
	And we can all do that.
	Okay, yeah.
	Okay, let me see.
	I'm just scanning to see any more questions here.
	But I should also mention to some of the people, because I know some of you guys are interested in doing this, okay?
	Now, go through hypnosis.
	I mean, that's really what opened the door for me, the near-death experience and the hypnosis.
	You have to put the key in your subconscious and unlock it to get all this weird stuff to start making sense and It's hard to explain, but once you go through something like hypnosis or have a near-death experience, that's kind of the key to unlocking the cosmos and having it channel through you.
	Okay.
	In terms of...
	Let's see.
	Can you tell me if...
	Since your abduction, or whatever you want to call it, do you feel that your psychic abilities, you say you see orbs and all of that, so did that occur since your regression, or did it occur since your abduction?
	It occurred after the near-death experience.
	Okay.
	Do you feel that you had...
	Psychic intuition that you were in denial about before the near-death experience?
	No, and here's why.
	I've had friends come up to me or message me online and say, Hey, you know when we were in the second grade or whatever, you used to walk up and say, I'm psychic.
	Like, it was just boom.
	Like, what the hell?
	This little first grader walk around talking about psychic stuff.
	I didn't...
	What the hell?
	And I thought about it, and I remembered specifically the first time I heard the word psychic or whatever, it was a serpendipity moment.
	It was like, that's me.
	That's what I am.
	That's...
	It all makes sense now.
	Like, that's all these feelings I get.
	That's why I'm so different.
	That's me.
	That's what...
	It all makes sense now.
	And I started going around, you know, I'm psychic.
	I'm psychic, and kids thought I was effing nuts, and I stopped talking.
	I stopped talking about it after that, okay?
	Yeah.
	And then high school, whatever, came around.
	I started getting interested in it again, whatever, and that's that.
	Okay.
	Let me say, I don't see any more questions here that I can offhand, but if you do have more questions, go ahead and put them quickly in the chat.
	And I don't want to keep you too much longer, but is there anything else that you want to talk about in terms of your interaction with these beings, in terms of have they told you things about the future?
	Do you feel that you know things about the future because they're interacting with you?
	That sort of thing.
	Well, let's see.
	As far as the future goes, there's going to be more ISIS stuff going on in Europe and America.
	Mostly Europe, but there will be one attack here.
	And it's going to be pretty messed up.
	It's probably coming in a year, a year and a half.
	It's going to be pretty messed up.
	It's going to be total false flag.
	It's really up in the air right now what we do with this attack.
	The way I understand it, They're planning the next 9-11 times 10.
	9-11 was version 1—I'm sorry, Al-Qaeda was ISIS 1.0.
	Okay, that was—and 9-11 was the first—the little test.
	The little, well, what happens if we do this and we kill all of them and tell them, let's go over here and do wars?
	You know, how are they going to respond?
	Well, now they know how we're going to respond.
	And now they're going to come a hundred times harder, and we're going to have an infinitely harder enemy to fight, ISIS. And the worst part is, our Air Force, from what I've heard, is getting orders not to strike these guys, while the Russians are cleaning house with ISIS. And our guys have strict hands-off policy of ISIS. Now, if that isn't a clear-as-day conspiracy, what the hell is?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I appreciate that.
	It's just, it's absolutely sickening.
	But this ISIS thing is, I hate to say it, a lot's changed since my second hypnosis session.
	It's gotten a lot worse.
	They've gotten a lot more powerful.
	They've, I just got a weird image in my head.
	When they destroy these ancient sites, they suck up the energy and it makes them more powerful.
	And it's really starting to strengthen these guys with the energies they're exerting out in the earth.
	It's getting worse.
	And our government is protecting them.
	Okay, I just want to tell people that I saw this very interesting film recently.
	It's actually available on Hulu.
	And it's free.
	It's under Staff Picks.
	And it's a movie.
	So it's a movie under Staff Picks.
	And I think it's free for everyone.
	I do have a Hulu subscription, but I think anyone can watch it.
	And it's called The Operation.
	And actually, you reminded me of it.
	I just saw it recently.
	But...
	This actually takes place in Afghanistan and it shows...
	It's fictionalized, but actually it relates to the Anunnaki and it relates to ISIS or what you might call...
	Something that's going on with regard to the so-called wars that we're having on planet Earth, a lot of which is actually E.T. influenced.
	And if you watch the operation, I just want to highly recommend it.
	It is made by the same director as the Blair Witch Project.
	So he's good at what he does, and it's actually quite...
	Interesting.
	I'm going to have to check that out.
	I'm happy you got into that.
	Let me mention a few more things here.
	A lot of the stuff that happens every day, like major breakthroughs, are all ET psychic influence, whether it's negative or positive.
	Most, if not all, of the majorly influential people here on Earth were being influenced psychically by extraterrestrials.
	I've heard you mention Tesla before.
	Prime example.
	Prime example.
	He's just getting these ideas from the cosmos.
	Boom!
	And he's inventing all this crazy stuff.
	Where the hell did this come from?
	It came from psychic influence from the cosmos.
	From intelligent beings sending us information.
	I mean, look at where we've come.
	All this stuff.
	Religion.
	Let's get into religion.
	I believe...
	I've heard John Lear say Jesus didn't exist.
	Well, I don't think that's true.
	I used to think that's true, but from what the information I've been getting from channels to me, from alien stuff, Jesus, all those guys did exist.
	However, they were extraterrestrial, or some of them at the very least were starseeds, which is like they're incarnated here for a specific mission, and they're just like divine...
	Okay, fair enough.
	Let me see.
	What else?
	One last thing, though, about that.
	Let me touch up on that.
	Religion was also given to us by extraterrestrials, but it was a good thing at first.
	But the reptilians have totally twisted it into something it's not.
	And the message has been totally lost in translation.
	And religion isn't even what it was back then.
	It's a totally different...
	Totally, totally, totally different things from what it was back then.
	And that has to do with reptilian influence because they twisted the message so man would kill each other and, you know, do whatever.
	I mean, look at what's going on with ISIS. You go tell a young kid, go blow yourself up and you're going to go have 92 virgins and God is going to, you know, you're a hero and, you know, My God.
	I mean, you talk about brainwashing.
	That's the most classic brainwashing ever.
	And that comes from reptilians.
	That's where all this tactical stuff comes from.
	How our CIA operates.
	How our military operates.
	All this negative stuff.
	It's all reptilian channeling, influence, but negatively.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, very good.
	Let's see.
	I guess...
	I can't think of anything else to ask you at this moment.
	So, you know, and I appreciate you volunteering all the stuff that comes to you.
	So, in terms of, I guess, steps forward, maybe you could check back with us after you have another regression or if anything else goes on with you that's really substantial that you'd like to share.
	And feel free to come back and contact me.
	Okay?
	Awesome.
	Excellent.
	Thank you so much, Kay.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And if your friend ever does a regression, you know, tell them we'd like to hear from them.
	I could have them email you if you want.
	I mean, I could have a lot of people email you that I've talked about.
	You ask, I'll have them get in touch with you to verify everything I've told you.
	Okay?
	You know, that's great.
	And I hope you get a chance to do your own shows on your network and so on.
	And...
	Anything we can do to help?
	Yeah.
	It's great to be in contact with you, and thank you for sharing.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	I mean, like you said, Serpendipity happened, and I believe this happened to spark a whole new ball rolling here.
	This is step two for my show, and I believe that this show is step one, or step two, really, towards what's next for me.
	Hopefully I'll be on more shows like yours and giving talks and stuff.
	Okay.
	What would be very good is also one of the ways we check on what's going on with ETs and Is when they communicate with us and they're communicating all the time with people.
	And then people share their stories.
	And that's one way of other people sort of saying, oh, well, the Grays are active over here in California right now.
	Or they're doing this over there.
	And you know what I'm saying?
	It's kind of, you can create a network.
	Yeah.
	And of checking up on what races are doing what and what are their real intentions.
	And how do the people feel after they deal with them?
	Et cetera, et cetera.
	Absolutely.
	So it's just some thoughts along those lines.
	And also the regression therapists that you've been interacting with, they are welcome to come on my show.
	Okay.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	Okay.
	Excellent.
	Thank you so much, Carrie.
	You have no idea how big of an honor it is to be on the show.
	Excellent.
	Well, thank you so much, and it's an honor for us to be interacting with you, and look, have a great night.
	Take good care of yourself, okay?
	Thank you, Carrie.
	All right.
	Good night, everyone.
	Back tomorrow night with a very interesting past life, a person named Julius Vadi Hatra, and she's a very interesting person who's had a lot of past life memories come to her.
	Alright, so thanks again, and I'm going to roll credits, alright?
	Bye-bye.

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