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March 2, 2016 - Project Camelot
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INTERVIEW WITH RICHARD SMITH - UFO TEACHER
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Hi, everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm going to be interviewing Richard Smith, UFO teacher, as he calls himself.
And I'm going to read a short bio here to start out with.
But actually, I want to make a couple announcements just to start off.
I am doing a free energy, alternative energy panel next, let's see, Wednesday, March...
And I want to invite anyone who knows a free energy activist or inventor to direct them to my website to see the, you know, the announcement.
And then they should contact me on the email address there, which is Carrie at projectcamelot.tv if they want to actually join the panel discussion.
We are going to invite people that are well-known.
It looks like John Hutchinson might be able to join us and some other well-known people hopefully will confirm between now and then.
And then on top of it, we're going to have, you know, I guess you might say laypersons.
I've invited all sorts of people.
So I hope you'll join us.
It'll be a very unusual event because it'll be an open discussion.
There should be a lot of people here in the Google Hangout.
And then, of course, a lot of people listening who can ask questions.
And we're just going to kind of see where it goes.
So it's a rather unusual thing.
I just wanted to give you a shout out about that.
And then on, I think it's March 10th, the following day, I'm going to interview Richard Allen Miller and Matt Stein about their upcoming conference in Hollywood for the following weekend.
And that's all about sort of preparing critical thinking and getting ready for any eventuality that might happen, kind of a preparedness, I guess.
It's going to be a whole weekend seminar.
Richard Allen Miller, as everyone knows, is a riot.
And if you're in Hollywood, I highly recommend you come on down and I'll be there.
I'll probably do a live broadcast from the premises if we can...
Manage it depending on what kind of connection they have there.
So at any rate, I'll hope to do some interviews as well and filming.
Anyway, that'll be fun.
So just wanted to let you know about those things.
So we're going to start now with Richard Smith.
And I've been reading his very fascinating book.
Let's see, The More of the Mason and the Alien.
And he's a very interesting guy and contactee.
And I do recommend his book.
So...
What I'm going to do now is share a brief bio with you and put this on the screen so that everyone can kind of see.
His poster here that we made just for the show and see the book cover, etc.
So Richard Smith is an experiencer, author, international speaker and radio host on the topic of alien contact, the Moorish legacy, human origins and related matters.
Smith received high honors at New York State University.
For his dedicated work with extraterrestrial intervention and alien abduction phenomena, globally recognized for spearheading the human origins revolution, he currently resides in Albuquerque, New Mexico and is working on his third book and has been speaking worldwide with author events, interviews, lectures and conferences.
And I also want to say that he's an accomplished artist, a painter, and does art of all kinds.
So we're going to talk to him about that as well.
So welcome, Richard.
And it's great to have you on the show.
I'm going to put the camera on you here.
So you're front and center.
All right.
Yes, thank you very much for inviting me on the show.
This is a wonderful honor here.
I hope I can live up to that bio you just read.
I'm not sure who that is, but...
Well, I'd love to augment the bio.
If you could start off by doing that, it would be great.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Definitely.
I mentioned in there the Human Origins Global Conference Tour, and that's a big thing that I'm looking forward to getting off the ground.
In fact, I just recently got invited to bring it to London, England, and also out to Los Angeles, California.
And so I'm looking forward to having that take off.
That is for the purpose of bringing everything I talk about in the book To each and every country.
Basically have it being like a rolling global tour conference, country to country, continent to continent.
And so we came up with the name Human Origins Global Conference Tour.
But the backbone of it and the foundations of why I want to get that conference off the ground as a project is to basically get the information out there That's in the book, and the book itself acts as the backbone of the conference.
And as far as my background itself, biographically, This all started for me when I had actually reached the age of 21.
I'm 45 now, so it's been a few years in between, but I've been going at this for the past 20 years now.
I can't believe 20 years have already gone by because I can remember when it all started like it was yesterday.
And at the age of 21 is when I had my first awakening.
And...
What had happened in the awakening was that everything that happened before that I might have considered to be dreams from childhood and teenage years came flooding back to me immediately as a total recall, only this time around it was a total recall of memories.
They weren't dreams anymore.
Right at that point in time, when that first awakening came, is when an entity, I refer to in the book as the crone, Ended up making herself known to me.
And she helped me through that first awakening there to realize where this total recall was coming from.
On that first visitation, I realized it really wasn't a first visitation.
She had always been there all through my childhood.
And I talk about in the book there how You know, you sort of sense through childhood and adolescence and teenage years that in these experiences I would always sense a certain entity hiding in the background there that wouldn't reveal herself until I came of age.
I go into detail in the book as to why she had done it that way.
I describe her in the book as a bipedal female praying mantis type, one of the ancient healers, and I also refer to her sometimes as mother.
To signify the biological ties that exist between bloodlines here on Earth and the galactic community itself.
And the common bond that exists between the two.
And she is part of what I refer to in the book as the sisterhood.
And the sisterhood is a very powerful presence.
That sort of acts like a celestial midwife between the human race and the galactic community.
They sort of represent that common ground between extraterrestrial intervention, reincarnation, and sexual reproduction.
They are, as it was revealed to me during that first awakening, without jumping too far ahead, it was right at the time When I was getting ready to go back to college for my next four years at the State University of New York Old Westbury campus to focus more so on visual arts instead of commercial art and because I was doing that you know this all ties in with the visitation
she asked me point blank would you use your talents and skills As an artist to basically take the downloaded information she wanted to pass on to me and turn it into a form of visual communication to basically educate the masses.
That's where it started off for me with the artwork and then over the years It evolved into the seminars, the lectures, the writing, and of course now, here we are in the year 2016 with the newly published book, which is actually my second book.
The first one was published about 10 years ago, and life sort of got in the way.
So that's why there's a 10 year gap between the new book and the first one from 10 years ago.
But it's all for a good reason.
Everything happens in its own time and its own place for a reason.
And part of me has to feel grateful for the fact that I was forced to wait ten years before I got to publish this book, because truth be told, if I was truly honest with myself, I would have to admit that if I got to do it the way I wanted to do it years ago, this book I have right now that's published, Would not have been anywhere near as interesting or have any of the flavor in it that it has now.
It probably would have been boring as all hell if I got to publish it the way I wanted to 10 years ago.
So, you know, like I said, everything happens for a reason.
And although I grit my teeth when I say it that way, I know it's for a greater purpose because of all the positive feedback and input that I've been getting from everybody.
On the publication of the book, many of whom have been following me for several years and waiting for this book to come out.
And I just kept promising with false starts that yes, it's coming, it's coming.
I often joke about the fact that...
Let me ask...
Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, I've got a slight echo here on my voice.
I'm not sure what to do.
That's okay, I can hear you.
So, anyway, I just want to ask you, because you did delay, and it seems like you, actually, your writing style, I'm just guessing about this, that your writing style might have changed in the interim.
So, I wonder if that's what went on, because you're almost verging, I wouldn't say into fantasy, but you're You're playing with a lot of visual, you know, sort of cinematic, almost imagery.
And I wonder if originally you wouldn't have had the guts to kind of expand in that way.
Probably not.
I think you kind of hit the nail on the head there because nowadays, and it's a good thing you brought that up.
I'll explain why.
I have people who are you know getting on board with reading the new book and they asked me about the first one from ten years ago and I told them do not read the first one until you read this one where I started ten years ago was probably in the wrong spot and that's why the first book was an absolute friggin failure when I published it And,
but I'm still happy I did it for personal reasons.
It was an experiment, and it would have started off a series of things in a certain direction.
I'm quite sure the powers that be...
Let me have that first book for myself and then decided, no, you know, that's not the way you're gonna go.
That's a great way to start off, but we're gonna stop that there and, you know, you're supposed to go in a different direction.
So the writing style is drastically different between the new book and the first one.
So I tell people, read this new one first.
Then go back and read the first one from 10 years ago, and it'll make a thousand times more sense, because if you try reading the first one, you're going to be like, what the hell was he smoking when he wrote this?
So, you know, the first one, and all my mentors at the time, associates and friends, they were like, You know, are you sure you want to go that way with the first book?
This was, you know, back in 2005.
Turn of the century there.
And I said, yes.
I said, I have to go this way.
But unfortunately, then everything came to a screeching halt.
Never got back to the second one.
So the first one kind of just hung out there with this big giant question mark on it, like, what the hell is it and why did you do it?
So now I can actually...
I gratefully validate the first book with this new one, which was done the right way.
And I've had the writing style and so forth, as you mentioned before.
There were some people who years ago told me, they're like, you know, all these seminars and lectures that you've done, some of which are on VHS or DVD, why don't you just transcribe them into a book?
And I was like, I tried to actually do that, and I explain in the book why that doesn't work.
Verbal humor in front of an audience does not translate into the parlance of literary humor when you write in the book.
They can be similar, but it's not the same thing because you have visual mannerisms that don't have to be explained when you're in front of an audience that conveys an idea.
You don't have visual mannerisms in a book.
So a lot of my writing style is influenced in a big way by actually comedians who I looked up as my own personal heroes,
people like Robin Williams and George Collin and Eddie Griffin and so forth, who proactively, in their own artistic routines with comedy and stand-up comedy, actually intelligently went after the Alien contact or extraterrestrial issue in their routines in a socially oriented way,
so making real solid social commentaries that were funny as hell, but were realistic and down-to-earth and sincere, okay?
Well, let me only say that I am showing you Actually, I don't know what to do in this case because I've got this echo on me.
I can hear you clearly.
I can hear you.
What?
I can hear you clearly.
You're okay.
Okay.
I don't know why I have an echo, though.
What's going on?
Anyway, I've got, you know, my partner here is trying to help me.
Anyway, so what I wanted to ask you was, you know, I appreciate the background of the writing of the book, but I'm actually putting some of your paintings here on the screen from your website.
Thank you.
At this moment, a lot of people really want to understand kind of more about who you are and like how your experience is.
made you write the book.
In other words, not so much the literary side, but more the human side in terms of, you know, your E.T. experiences.
So if you could kind of, I don't know if you can fast forward, I'm not sure what the chronology would be, but you have this really kind of remarkable relationship with this, what is a man praying mantis, I guess, E.T., and you call the crone, and Can you elaborate more on how this kind of changed your life and got you to actually do what you're doing today?
Sure, definitely.
Yeah, that's no problem.
There's a lot of people who get interested in that side of it, definitely.
And when the dialogues from the age of 21 on started, I refer to this in the book as...
You know, quote-unquote, the conversation, all right?
And when those things first started, the crone, who is very much, you know, as far as personality goes, very much has that strident personality that runs parallel to what Native Americans refer to as the crone, okay?
Highly protective, at times extremely unforgiving, okay?
A powerful teacher, if you don't pay attention, she's the kind of person that would slap you in the head and get you to pay attention.
But she's also, in keeping with the terms of calling her mother, she's also extremely protective of her protégés or her children that she takes under her wing to teach.
When I... I started having this relationship with her.
Turns out, it wasn't just about me.
It was a generational thing that included my mother and my grandmother into what I referred to before as sisterhood, which is a multi-genotype Communal grouping of various female alien species.
You'll see some male entities in there too, but they're in the minority.
The predominant factor is female, okay?
They are very much a part of the female principle, the feminine goddess energy, the Vril energy, okay?
And when she asked me to take this on, She also told me that she would be leading me to other earthly mentors who would also be teaching me certain things and helping me fill in the gaps along the way on this path that I agreed that I would take with her.
And as it turns out, as the years went on and more and more was revealed, I talk about this evolution in the book there because that pretty much takes up the first half of the book.
It's basically explaining how I got to this point.
Where was I coming from?
What was happening with the Crone and the sisterhood?
How it affected my family?
The whole idea was there was going to be people picked.
To be teachers of the masses.
To pass on this information there for the next generation.
Because things were just getting worse and worse and worse on this planet.
I come from that generation, that karmic sphere that was born into the 70s.
So of course that whole generation came of age in the 90s, 20 years later.
You know, so there were a lot of others like myself that were receiving this particular calling along the way, and I've met a few of them over the years too.
And their experiences are running parallel to mine in many ways.
But it goes deeper than that.
You know, if it's a case of where you're dealing with a primordial entity, That has been around since God knows how long, okay, is probably the oldest of the oldest as far as the sisterhood goes.
There's very few of her kind left because many of them have moved on to elsewhere, other higher dimensions.
But when things came to a head between the Krohn and myself and I started realizing as the memory and more memories were coming to the surface, this just wasn't about this lifetime.
There were things going on that were carrying over from previous lifetimes.
And so I asked her, I said, you know, what are all these other, you know, semi-glimpses and memories that seem to be popping up and flashing in and out?
And she told me, she says, look, she says, you've had a few lifetimes on this planet, and in each one, you have actually stood up to the enemy, which I go into detail in the book as to who these people are, these entities are, these groupings that are working against the human race.
And she says at a certain point...
They went and murdered your whole family.
You retaliated against them by decapitating one of their feudal lords.
And at that point, a price was put on your head and we had to get you out of here.
And by out of here, that meant isolated in what's referred to as the system of Andromeda, which is used as neutral territory.
Basically, asylum.
And just left there for a while until things cooled down.
And because, as it turns out, I said, am I the only one to ever do that to a feudal lord?
She goes, yeah.
She says, you're the only one that was bold enough to stick his head on a pike staff and send a message to the corporate titans of Orion.
She says, that's why the queens have an axe to grind with you.
And I said, okay.
So, how I ended up being brought back here is that when things...
Finally came to an extreme head in the 1970s.
You got to figure this is the time frame where everything was kicking off with the HMOs and the pharmaceutical multinationals and We were moving into the decade of the hostile corporate takeovers that would eventually turn into the transnational corporations of today The human race was just getting their asses handed to them left and right across the entire globe so at that point Mother Earth had basically brought the benevolent factions
back to the bargaining table and told them in non-certain terms, you are going to stay here.
We are going to get things accomplished.
You're not going to run like a bunch of damn cowards like you did last time.
And she says, if you do run away again, and she says, I will shake the entire human race off my back like a bad case of fleas and bring this experiment to an end.
So that was her bargaining chip that forced them to stay here and grow a backbone and basically stand ready to go up against the armies of darkness, the corporate titans of Orion.
As such, in that agreement it was basically signed in the blood of the ancients and this is what began the crop circle phenomena as a pact or a covenant representing that agreement between the benevolent factions and Mother Earth.
Okay, can I stop you right there and I appreciate all that you're saying and thank you for that.
At this moment, I'm curious in terms of your relationship with the Crone and also possibly any other ATs that you are kind of interacting with.
Do you feel that the dialogue...
First of all, I'm assuming you're kind of seeing her physically.
Is that right?
Or is she more of a shadow being...
At least, you know, I'm about halfway through your book at this point, and I'm still clear on whether you're actually seeing her physicality literally or not, or whether she kind of is moving in and out of, you know.
Within the first couple of chapters, I explained there that it is a physical thing to some extent.
But she's able to walk between the raindrops, poetically speaking, okay?
So she can move in and out at will.
For the most part, in most of those experiences, I've definitely seen her head, I've definitely seen her hands, but there have been rare experiences where I see her full torso as well.
But usually, most of her is covered by the robe, and the robe, or the cloak, tends to have this Organic presence of its own, like it's just floating along the floor, not even touching anything.
Okay, and is she nine foot tall if she were to stretch to her full height?
Do you know how tall she is?
Oh yeah, she would easily dwarf a basketball player, okay?
I mean, I'm just a little over six feet.
She's twice my height.
Okay.
All right.
And when you first encountered her, were you afraid?
In that first awakening at the age of 21, I took a look at her, and there was a shock at first, obviously, but the shock was more so like, I know you, but I have no idea how the hell I know you.
So that's what that was like.
And you also had parents, correct me if I'm wrong, you had parents that were sort of, I guess you might call them positively oriented towards paranormal experiences.
Is that how you might word it?
Yeah, definitely.
That was another aspect of this.
Ties in with these experiences with the sisterhood is my immediate biological family was a major source of support because of where they were coming from.
My dad was already into the idea that, you know, there were things about Outer Limits and Twilight Zone that were more true than fiction.
That was where he was coming from.
My mom raised me on Star Wars and Star Trek, okay?
And then she would sit me down with the Bible and go through it and show me where all the references were to alien contact and UFOs.
Of course, she swore me to secrecy on that and said, if you ever repeat this, I'll disown you.
But she was my first paranormal teacher.
My grandmother, she had a powerful gift that came through on her bloodline, her side of the family, that always amazed my grandfather.
He could never explain it.
And the thing is that most of this should have really been handed off to a female.
But in my generation, my brother, my cousins, we were all boys.
So it got handed off to me.
But I still swear to this day that it was supposed to be a woman that this whole legacy got handed off to.
And that's why in the next generation of my family, it's my brother who's married, has kids.
He's got four kids.
All of them are girls.
So I know exactly where this legacy is going.
Now, so, okay, when you had the first contact with the crone again, you did recognize her, you say, and so did you, after the experience, did you go tell your mother or father or did you keep it to yourself for a while?
I told them because this was all culminating right around the time that I was going back to college for visual arts.
Not only did I tell them, but I I talk about it in a humorous way in the book where I had to lay this all on the line to my professors.
Oh, right.
And so there was no way I was going to talk with them until I talked to my parents about it.
So, yeah, my parents knew about it.
My brother knew about it.
And my mother kept encouraging me.
She says, look, she says, this really is the path you're going to go.
You got to tell them.
And luckily enough, One of my professors, who was my immediate mentor for the artwork I was doing, I laid it all on him.
He listened intently.
He thought I was batshit crazy, but the thing he got into was the politics.
Because I promised him, I said, look, this is not going to be some airy-fairy stupidity.
This is going to be hardcore stuff, real subject matter, socially oriented about the human condition.
It's not going to be this dingbat stuff.
And he held me to that.
He says, I'm going to hold you to that promise because if I see any flaco crap in here, I'm going to kick you out of the program.
I said, okay.
And then he had to take that.
And go to his, you know, associates and explain to them what I was focusing on.
And I would have been, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that meeting.
Right.
So when the, you know, the artwork that's on your site, is that more recent or is, was any of this developed or, you know, in that school program?
Most of it is from the time frame of being in that program at the State University Old Westbury campus with those professors.
Some of it is newer and more recent.
Honestly, I've been so busy with seminars and then of course getting back on track with the writing, the artwork got sidelined.
There just hasn't been an opportunity to get back to it.
Because now I'm sort of playing catch-up.
But, like you have there on the screen, and thank you for putting that up there, anybody can go to my website, to the art section, the gallery section, and see the artwork there.
Some of the pieces I've worked on over the last 10 years, but most of it is actually from the late 90s, when I was at college.
Okay, and you're obviously a gifted artist, so they're quite wonderful.
And I don't know, you know, you as a speaker, obviously, on the circuit, I wonder if you, you know, ever wrap your...
Your paintings into your speaking events because they're great visuals and in a way they're a great look at your inner psyche kind of thing.
It's valuable, I think, for people to see what you were drawing, what you were painting.
I do talk about that.
I do bring up certain pieces of work when it applies to what I'm talking about, and then I tell them, look, you can go to the website and see that piece I'm referring to there.
Many years ago, like back in 1996, I had started out doing my lectures as slide presentations with my artwork, but As time went on, it became a little bit too limiting because I had other things that I wanted to get into talking about.
So, and I also, you know, slide presentations, they're very restrictive, you know, because you're standing there going through the slides, standing in the dark, nobody can see you, you know, and I had reached a point where I wanted to be able to interact with the audience more.
So that's why by the time I would say 2005 came along, everything changed in terms of how I did my seminars and presentations.
And that's why I took the time to set up the website In a manner that they could still experience the artwork and see it from themselves, but the whole slide presentation format wasn't getting in the way of the seminars anymore.
Okay, so I guess we kind of went off the topic slightly there, but I wanted people to really, you know, because I'm flashing these things on the screen.
Sure.
It's lovely work, and I just think that people would find it very, very interesting.
You know, UFO artists, you know, that's like a general term.
There are some wonderful artists out there, and obviously you're one of them.
And I'm actually thinking of getting together a sort of a gallery showing of, you know, artists that do depict the E.T. kind of presence on Earth and that sort of thing.
And doing some kind of Camelot thing.
So it's just, you know, this sort of brainstorm I have in my head.
But I'm definitely going to let you know when and if I get that all together here in the Los Angeles That would be fantastic.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, because it's wonderful.
And the art and the talent out there is just, I'm amazed by it.
It's a really untapped kind of area of exploration for artists.
And I know that for the last 10, 20 years, ever since there's been a real onslaught of disclosures by witnesses about their ET experiences, they have been doing art.
And the art really does depict a lot of times what you see when you're going through these experiences.
And as I see in your paintings, you're kind of...
It looks like you're depicting a mantis-like face in a couple of them and that sort of thing.
Yes, and the whole theme that runs through the artwork in that whole experiment, the paintings, the sculptures, the installation work, okay, the whole idea was to make it something that the viewer Would have to psychologically interact with, not just look at it, but walk away with it in the back of their mind.
So each and every piece of artwork is done in a manner that gets away from the whole illustrative aspect that some others were doing, but more so forces the viewer to have this psychological experience, which is actually what A mandate that I was given by one of my professors.
Make sure it's something they experience, not just look at.
So a lot of these paintings had that effect.
Yeah, I think you succeeded in that.
Let me ask you, because I know, you know, this is the Camelot audience, and it's kind of a different kind of audience than the one perhaps you're used to.
I don't know.
But they, you know, they have a whole backlog of information on their own.
And, of course, having gathered from Camelot, watching Camelot over the years and all the people that we've had on the shows and all the interviews I've done.
But...
Do you know Simon Parks?
Have you seen his interview and are you aware of him?
Because he is a person who has had a lot of dealings with the mantis as well and considers, in fact, he calls them the mother, I guess.
He sees a familial relationship with them, as you do.
So are you familiar with him?
I know his name has been brought up to me before in the past, but no, not personally.
I've never met him.
I've never really followed up on anything.
All right.
Well, it would certainly be interesting for you, considering you're having that kind of contact, which is not that different than some of the things he's gone through.
From what I can tell, the two of you would have to compare notes and decide what...
How much similarity there really was or not.
But it's worth exploring if you're interested.
So I just wanted to bring that up because I know it would be a burning question out there.
So in terms of going forward in your experiences, you know, I haven't finished your book and I don't know when your book ends.
Like, does your book end several years ago?
Or are you...
In other words...
Did you write it up to a certain point?
And now you said you're working on another book.
Are you going to talk about your new experiences?
And can you talk about that now, here?
The book I'm working on now is going to pick up where this one leaves off.
I point out the first half of the book It's about how I got to this point with the stuff I talk about in my lectures.
How did I get to that point?
And I don't want to give anything away to the audience because the second half of the book is tied together with the first half.
It's not like they're split or separate from each other.
They belong to each other very much.
But the second half, where the first half ends...
Set you up for what you're in store for for the second half of the book, okay?
My Odyssey, how I got to a certain point, how it got up to the point it got in 2005, I sort of bring the book up to that, okay?
Through the 90s, up to the year 2005, and then, bam, what happened in 2005?
Which...
You know, it's a pretty cool surprise when you get to that halfway point.
And then you realize, oh, okay, this leads right into the second half of the book.
Now I get it.
And then as far as the second half, I get into the, you know, establishing what I do in the first half of the book about myself.
It makes it that much easier to get into what's in the second half of the book about myself.
Everybody, okay?
All of us, the human race, okay?
Because the first half is about the messenger.
How did the messenger get to where he was from 1991 to 2005, okay?
And then the second half is, well, what did you learn, okay?
And that's what I get into, and I bring it up to a certain point in history with the founding fathers of America and stop it there on a high note because that sets the reader up for what I'm going to jump into into the and I bring it up to a certain point in history with the founding fathers of America and stop Okay.
Where is the follow-up going to go?
In general terms, what direction?
Do you have additional ET interactions or is it going to be more educational?
It'll be a mix of the two and how they tie in with each other.
There will be more experiences, both extraterrestrial and that which borders on the spiritual, okay, in the next book.
In fact, I actually show people, without giving away too much, The next book is actually the first chapter throws you right into the process of reincarnation and who that whole group was that came through in the 1970s to start this revolution that culminates in the 90s and going into the 21st century.
So I explain that more in detail as to why that generation is so important because they were basically inheriting the legacy Of the master minstrels of the 60s and 70s, the singer-songwriters, okay?
Were the ones who were laying the foundation so that those new souls could come through in the 70s there and basically open up the floodgates and go after this with both barrels loaded and, you know, basically give the bad guys a run for their money and take back the planet.
This is where I get into things like, you know, the terms legions of light and armies of darkness or the whole concept of flesh and bone versus wooden stone.
These are esoteric concepts that basically define the difference between the spiritual insurrection that was used to level the playing field and give the human race a leg up on its own destiny Versus the economic side of it, which basically treats the human race as chattel and therefore property of the estate.
So you have a great overview because you're covering both sides of the equation.
In other words, you're having your personal experiences and your personal development, but then you're also going into the What one might say is the political.
And I myself have a similar background because I got into politics when I was really in college and all of that.
And got into...
I mean, well, it's much more revolutionary politics.
And so I appreciate where you're going with the way you're thinking about things and that you...
You bring things up like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and that whole struggle.
You do see things from the sociological point of view as well as the exo-political, you might say.
Can you talk a little bit more about that?
Sure, definitely.
Over the past 20 years, you know, I kind of laugh about where I started.
Because if I could go back in time and talk to my younger self from 20 years ago, I probably wouldn't listen to myself because my younger self had a different mentality about the whole thing at the time.
But as the years go on, you start seeing, regardless of what experiences you're having, You gain that level of wisdom that allows you to take a few steps back and remove yourself from the scenario and see the bigger picture.
And in that bigger picture, one of the resounding themes that comes up every time is, why is the human race constantly on the receiving end of all this degradation?
Where is this hatred coming from?
And it's not enough to just rest it at the doorstep of corporate America and say it's all about greed and profit because those are symptoms of the cause.
They are not the cause themselves.
So then you've got to ask yourself, okay, where are the seven deadly sins coming from?
What's causing them?
What's motivating them?
What's driving the greed and profit?
What's driving this idea that A human being amounts to nothing more than a birth certificate or a social security number that's easily replaceable.
And once you start asking those kind of questions, that brings you to a whole different level and you start realizing this is all about economics, real estate investing, and tradable commodities.
And we're not just talking about planet Earth, we're talking about Throughout the entire cosmos, okay?
And that there is no kind of like mystery about it.
There is no oga booga, hocus pocus, supernatural, prince of darkness, or any BS like that.
That, as it turns out, amounts to nothing more than corporate propaganda as a smokescreen so that nobody asks the key question, what is really going on here with the economics?
And of course, Your average blue-collar ufologist would never come to that conclusion because the average person has been brainwashed generation after generation to find the almighty dollar as equating to anything that is painful.
Paying the mortgage, paying the lease, keeping a roof over your head, putting clothes on your kids' back and food on the table and paying the school tuition.
This is all painful stuff associated with money.
So naturally, no one's going to make that connection because in order to make that connection, you have to break the painful programming that says, money is a pain in the ass and I don't want to deal with it.
I don't want to deal with the bills, okay?
But in truth, when you elevate yourself above that and you realize how the other half lives and you start asking, People like real estate investors and so forth.
What's really happening?
This is where all the dirty secrets come to the surface and In the end of it all The entire backbone of all the strife we're having in this solar system and on this planet in particular is all based on the expansion of the empire solely for profit and greed and the economics that require 80% of the population to remain in a social and mental and emotional coma so that they don't ask the wrong questions.
Otherwise, this entire house of cards will come crumbling down and that will interfere with the profit margins.
And the Empire you're talking about, the expansion of the Empire, you're talking about Orion, and you're talking about the Dracos, etc., etc.
So can you elaborate going in that direction?
Because a lot of the Camelot audience are aware of this, and I'm sure would like to hear your take on it.
Oh, sure, definitely.
Let me see if I can...
I'll put this into a nutshell here.
Well, at a certain point in time, a very old and ancient empire kind of got ambitious one day and decided to expand the empire.
And these were what I refer to in the book as the kings, the Arion kings of the Arion empire.
And Arian is something that has permeated our society in many different ways, the very term itself.
In the scientific community, they have mispronounced it as Orion, which, of course, is the very reference to the Orion constellation of that very same empire I'm referring to.
But on the dark side of things, it's also what turned into the phrase Arian Super Race with the Third Reich.
Regardless of how crazy or nuts they were, they were very much in contact with those entities.
And a lot of empty promises were made about elevating the Third Reich up on a pedestal, which is why they turned against, you know, upper management and went as crazy as they did trying to take over Europe.
But this Arian Empire expands itself.
And, as with anything, the kings get what they want, they become sated, they become happy with what they got, and they lose their motivation to expand it any further, even though they had pushed it out quite far.
Unbeknownst to them, the queens got a taste for it.
They went to the kings and said,''Hey, we like this.
Do you mind if we take over the operation?'' Kings didn't care.
They taught them what to do.
Queens take it over.
When you're talking about the kings and queens, can you maybe explain who you mean by the kings and queens of Orion, are you talking, or on Earth?
Because people will get confused.
Oh no, this is specifically about the Arion Empire, okay?
Earth doesn't quite factor into it just yet at this point in the game.
And just to give people a good idea of how to picture it in their mind...
These Arians, okay, these reptilians, you can best picture them as bipedal Komodo dragons, pale-skinned, okay?
Imagine that horror show running after you, okay?
You might as well just write your will at that point and give up.
But that's what they were, bipedal reptilians, all right?
Pale-skinned.
That was the elite.
The lower ones, the warriors and class and so forth, and the Draks, These are the ones that tend to have the other skin colors, like brown or greenish or whatnot.
But the elite of the elites, those are the pale skin ones.
And that's important because it plays in...
Let me ask you this.
This information that you're going through, is this information that you were given in downloads from the Crone, do you think?
Or from other places?
Or is this research that you've done?
It is 50-50.
Okay.
First comes the downloading, then comes the research, okay?
Or first comes the research, and then comes the downloading.
You know, it goes back and forth, all right?
This also coincides with being guided to certain mentors who over the years have heard me talk, and then they pull me to the side, and they're like, you know, you're the one that can handle this.
Here's what you need to know.
Okay.
Because a lot of these people that I learned from outside of the Chrome, just basically Earth mentors, okay, in the esoterics and the occult and academics as well, they won't show their face by the light of day because the stuff I talk about is so damning.
But they see me and they're like, wow, this guy's not afraid of anything.
We better tell him.
And that just comes from the type of parents I had.
My brother is the same way.
Sometimes he can be even worse than me.
Just as a side note, he'll see something on TV that he knows is BS. He'll call me up to cross-reference it with me and I'm like, yeah, that's BS. He's open to it too.
But that's where it's coming from to answer your question there.
Sure.
So to get back to the people and the way the system is being run and your information as far as you consider, you know, the various factions, reptilians, etc.
Have you seen these beings yourself or is this, again, coming from downloads and research but you haven't actually interacted with these beings or have you seen them?
I myself have seen some of these beings, you know, so I'm wondering if you have.
Yes, I have seen them.
I have been confronted by a few of the ones that are referred to as the Assassins or the Droks, because they got wind of the fact that I was reincarnated back on planet Earth, and so that age-old grudge kicked in again.
And even though there's a hands-off policy enforced by the Sisterhood, These degenerates are always going to find some way to get around that.
At a particular time, some years ago, I was attempting to work on a new series of artwork, and I got this strange visitation from a very threatening entity.
Turns out it was Reptilian.
And they basically pinned me against the wall and said, we know what you're doing, boy, and now we want you to do it for us.
And I said, you're not supposed to be here, and you better get your hands off of me.
And so it basically threw me across the room.
I stand up to face him, and as the thing was coming at me, it stopped dead in its tracks and had this look of dread on its face.
And of course, you know, I'm not realizing what's going on behind me, okay?
I'm thinking, ha, that's right, you know, you better be afraid.
Had nothing to do with me at all.
What was coming up behind me was a 10-foot shadow, and all I see is this hand wave over my head towards the drach, the reptilian, and basically the thing was obliterated in all of its entrails, was sent back through a wormhole, back to whatever, you know, hellhole it came from.
I turn around, it's the crone.
And I said, oh, I should have known it wasn't really me.
And she said, she says, don't worry.
She says, that's going to send a message back to them to back off and leave you the hell alone.
So, yes, I have had those experiences there.
There was, to further emphasize the answer to your question, there I had made the mistake one day of asking the crone, I would like to know, you know, this is the way I asked her, I said, you know what, I don't quite understand what's going on on the other side of the aisle.
And she knew what I was referring to.
I was referring to the alien abduction experiencers, okay, which was not my experience.
And at a certain point in the late 90s, You know, I told her, I said, I don't get it.
I said, these people I'm trying to associate with, they all have this strange victim mentality and they really are getting raped and molested and getting their asses handed to them.
I said, what the hell is going on on that side?
And she looked at me and she says, you really want to know?
I said, yeah, I would like to know what's going on in that equation.
She goes, okay, here we go.
And she took me and stuck me in a very, very threatening and dangerous scenario where I was rescuing one of the hybrid children from a laboratory where they would be turned into these Lack of a better term, sleeper cell assassins, so to speak.
They were being abused and just mangled into this miniature Frankenstein monsters, okay?
Sort of like you see in the movie Scanners with Michael Ironside, that kind of a thing.
And I grabbed one and took off.
Well, at that point, the other...
This type of empire that I refer to as the Canis Empire, these Canis feudal lords, these warrior class that I refer to as the Duk warriors, they're the ones that invented the whole concept of cannibalism on the battlefield.
Well, I got a horde of them chasing after me now, and I'm running through these hurdles here to get away from them.
Eventually, I am cornered.
There's nowhere to go.
And the child is looking up at me for dear life.
And I'm like, I'm sorry, sweetie.
I'll take the brunt of it.
Don't worry.
And at that point...
A disk came down from the sky.
Bottom of it opened up.
It was other members of the sisterhood who were essentially coming to the rescue, but this was a test.
And remember, I asked for it because I opened my damn mouth.
And so the crone put me in a test scenario.
Would I be a coward and save myself, or would I save the child?
And I handed the child up to the other members of the sisterhood in the ship.
I said, I know only one of us can go.
Just get the hell out of here.
And I said, I'll hold them off so they don't follow you.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's laughable, me holding them off.
But as soon as they took off with the child, I was satisfied that the child was gone and rescued by them because the child actually belonged to one of the members of the sisterhood anyway.
Yeah.
The butchers, the assassins, they ended up surrounding me like a wolf clan.
And they had their teeth out, their claws out.
They were ready to just slice and dice.
And at that point, I just closed my eyes and I was like, you know, go ahead.
You know, give it your best shot.
And as soon as they dived into me, the crone reaches in and basically for...
Lack of a better explanation, she basically grabbed me out of what I perceived as my body, pulled me back to a more objective perspective that was away from that scenario, and forced me to stand there and watch them rip my body limb from limb and scatter my entrails to the four winds.
Now, here's the catch.
I did say I wanted to know what it felt like.
She made me feel every last ounce of pain, anguish, and torture as I'm watching them tear my body apart.
And then when it was over, I'm hunched over on the ground and curled up in the fetal position in extreme pain and shock.
Because it was all really psychologically induced and I had to get past that.
And then she looks down at me and she says, okay, satisfied?
Now you know.
And she says, next time, be careful what you ask for.
You just might get it.
And that was the end of that.
Okay.
Well, on a certain level, though, then you are, if you don't think that you've been experiencing that sort of treatment, you know, as an abductee, a contactee, etc.
In other words, there are others experiencing that.
So what you learn, obviously, is empathy, you know.
So, you know, it's a valuable lesson.
Has it also served you since that time so that you, you know, because I see that you've got in your resume that you kind of talk to abductees and it appears, and can you talk about how you now use that lesson, perhaps?
Well, what was I just thinking of?
Oh, yeah, because the thing is, in that experience, it also basically, it was also a two-fold thing.
Because it also, when you have an experience like that, it breaks your ego, too.
And that's important.
If you're going to humble yourself to learn things and surround yourself with people that are smarter than you, you've got to shatter your own white Masonic ego first and get that out of the way.
Otherwise, you're never going to learn anything, because you're always going to have that egotistical chip on your shoulder.
But, all that aside, I've had experiences where, well, maybe that's the wrong way to say it, but in a matter of speaking, I've had experiences where other people who, I see the look of dread on their face with the experiences they're having, and they hear about me and they walk up to me, and I tell them, you know, just hang around me for a little while.
They're not allowed to come near me, okay?
And That frequency, which I don't pretend to think has anything to do with me, but that frequency that rubs off on them helps them in a big way, emotionally and psychologically, and eliminates some of the problems.
It's almost like The scent that a dog would smell.
And how they identify someone.
It's almost like, okay, my frequency, aka my scent, is rubbed off on that abductee.
So when they come to them again, they're like, wait a minute, we can't touch this one.
This one's tagged differently.
We don't get it.
And that helps them out in a big way.
I can't claim it's an absolute solution, but...
I hope not, because you can't be everywhere in the universe at once.
No.
No, but I have said that.
And, you know, it breaks the ice.
It gets them to laugh.
You know, they warm up to it.
And then we can have an open dialogue, which is helpful to them because if they have somebody to talk to about it, they can deal with it better.
And that's the problem that I noticed also the difference between my family upbringing and Versus their family upbringing, which they didn't have.
You see this through the 80s and the 90s with the more popular internationally known authors and experiences and whatever.
Yeah, they were probably raking in the dough on their books and book deals and so forth, but all that did was reinforce the fact that they never had the family support that they wished they had, and they got shunned for it.
I mean, these are people who had to go through divorce, and not in the way that I went through divorce, but divorce as in A very horrid ordeal, losing their family, losing their children, being shunned by their parents, ostracized, locked away in a padded room, you know, harassed by the men in black, locked away by the men in white, all these bad things.
And that's why I had gone to the Crown.
I said, what the hell is going on on that side there?
That's not happening to me, and I'm glad it's not, but what is going on with them?
And that's what resulted in that experience.
Okay, so to get back to your sort of rundown of who's running this game here on planet Earth, do you want to, you know, sort of, I guess, summarize where you are coming from when you're talking about,
you know, the Dracos and the Arion and so on, you know, Do you have like a trajectory or sort of a historical timeline that you go down or that you might summarize just for the purposes of this interview?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, definitely.
To hit the high points, you know, some of the key bullet points, Queens take over, okay?
They become known as the Sata Queens.
And you see the way I spell it in the book.
I also explain in the book, linguistics and etymology, where our words come from because of this influence, okay?
Over time, sata, because they were so venomously oppressive and unstoppable as a military might.
Satah becomes mispronounced as Satan, or Satan, and this is how the word Satan comes into existence, okay?
So it's not a supernatural prince of darkness, but it is evil nonetheless in terms of economic slavery and the expansion of the empire, because of these crazy nutjobs here who are power hungry.
And as they expand the empire, they end up come across a much younger but equally powerful empire called the Canis Empire.
And this is what I referred to before as the Canis feudal lords, okay?
Now, they went at it with each other, like guns blazing, like there was no tomorrow.
Neither side was gaining any advantage there, because it was the, you know, irresistible force meeting the immovable object.
Eventually, The queens, who are always the master manipulators, figured out, hey, we're all after the same thing.
Let's make a deal.
And they make a deal with the canonist feudal lords to bring about a tentative peace between the empires based on the principles of greed.
So...
This is the beginning of the system.
This is where the idea of the two-party system came from.
The collaboration between the Arian Empire and the Canis Empire.
And this is what creates the system we have today between upper management and middle management.
The queens became upper management, the Canis feudal lords became middle management.
Together, they expand the empires even faster.
Are you talking off-planet at this time?
Yes, I am.
Yep.
So can you be a little more specific in terms of the planets where you think Canis, for example, where do you think they come from?
Canis Major and they're also referred to as the Syrian Dogs of War.
Okay.
The Sirius Galaxy.
Exactly.
Okay.
But this is getting to the point of planet Earth.
It is because of their extreme sense of greed that they end up expanding it far enough to come to this backwater system, unfortunately.
And this is where everything takes an extreme nosedive with our sociological evolution, with our primate ancestors.
So, once they reached this solar system, it was realized, I mean, the dollar signs were flying hard and fast because they realized all the tradable commodities that existed in this kingdom, this solar system, and they weren't going to leave anytime soon, okay?
The Canis feudal lords who were already prospecting this solar system, they reported back to the Satak Queens, the Arian Queens, and at that point there was no getting rid of them.
And the Canis feudal lords are the type where, you know, they'll sell their mother into slavery for a profit.
So the Queens manipulate them against each other on purpose because that's how sick and twisted they are.
Because they wanted one to come out on top.
They already decided who they were going to back.
So the Canis feudal lords started eliminating each other one by one because they really wanted the favoritism of the queens.
They wanted control of this solar system.
The ones that the queens already threw their weight behind, though, was a particular feudal lord by the name of King Anu.
And this is where this part of the cosmology starts coming into play.
Knowing he had the backing of the queens, he has an easy time eliminating the other competition.
He becomes the kingpin of this solar system.
And this is where things take a turn there.
So are you following Zachariah Sitchin's information?
Are you following the Sumerian tablets to do with the Anunnaki and coming to Earth and dominating the whole Enki Enlil story?
Are you following any of that?
Not exactly, because Sitchin could only go to a certain point, and he twisted it towards a more romanticized religious slant, which was the wrong way to go.
This is all about economics, and none of them have ever had the guts to talk about that, because in order to talk about it the right way, you end up wiping the floor up with everybody's religious beliefs, and he didn't want to go there.
So, and I explain why in the book, because I take it quite far in a way that, you know, people like Eric Von Daniken and Zachariah Sitchin, who I have the utmost respect for, but I understand their limitations and their generation that held them back from actually taking it to the next level.
Okay, so when you think that there's an economic side, of course there is, but what specifically?
Because are you talking about, you know, in other words, did you Have you tapped into the genetic alteration of humanity as well as the use of the slaves, the fact that they wanted to mine the gold, all of this sort of thing, the use of the monatomic gold to prolong their life, and so on?
Are you going down that road?
Any twists there for you?
Yes, I do talk about those things in the book there, but from the perspective of everything was about the tradable commodities and real estate investing.
And when I say real estate investing, we've got to expand our definition of that because we're talking about whole planets.
Sure.
That are all based on the laws of feudalism as far as the empires go.
And whenever you read Esoteric literature that refers to the word kingdom, they're actually referring to a whole solar system.
That's what the solar system is seen as.
And as per feudalism in the kingdom, there's always one planet that is seen as the throne of power and has central control over all the other chunks of real estate that are referred to as planets and the asteroid belt and so forth.
And of course, in our solar system, the throne of power is Earth.
It goes a long way to explaining why they're so interested in coming here all the time, because whoever controls Earth controls the kingdom by feudal law, and therefore has the ability to have access to those profit margins by ascendancy and by bloodline.
So when you get into the aspect of The creation of slaves, the part where the Anunnaki comes in, they were the royal guard and they served as middle management, okay?
They were important, but the crux of the story is actually way above them.
I know there's always a lot of emphasis placed on Anunnaki, this, that, and the other thing, and yes, they play a key role As the royal guard that was forced to serve as middle management here.
But you've got that rebellion that takes place, where middle management is now rebelling against upper management.
And the person who is in charge of keeping middle management under control was King Anu's eldest son, who was a very sick twist, you know, the one you referred to before, Enloe.
His brain pan was cooking on the same frequency as people like Nero and EDMN. And he only got the job by default because he was the oldest and by feudal law, the oldest gets the job, not the youngest.
He hated being here.
He hated The primate ancestors couldn't stand the aspect of being in this backwater system, but was told in no uncertain terms by his father, look, I need you to do this, otherwise both our heads are going to be on a platter because the queens are going to come down and wipe the floor up with us, and we don't want to lose this gig.
This is a profitable kingdom to be in.
So that shut him up for a while.
But when middle management rebelled against him, the Anunnaki, He went back to his father and said, look, you know, they're not listening to me.
Give me something.
We got to fix this.
And of course, King Anu knew he was in the hot seat because he was running the operation and the queens were looking to get their paycheck from him.
And that was always the motivation for all these decisions that were made.
Keep the paycheck going to the queens.
If the paycheck ever stops, there would be holy hell to pay.
What K-check are you talking about going from Anu to what you call the Queens?
And I'm assuming you're talking again about Sirius, the beings from Sirius?
No, I'm talking about the Arion Empire when it comes to the Queens.
Alright, and so what galaxy are you talking about?
The Orion Empire there, okay?
So within the Orion constellation there, the Arions, alright?
Okay.
Would you classify Aldebaran, the beings from Aldebaran in this group?
Possibly.
Okay.
I'm a little iffy about that.
He may be familiar.
So, no, I understand that there.
But I have no problem throwing him into that group, but that would just be an assumption on my part.
Sure.
So to get back, you were saying that there is some kind of paycheck that the Anu needs to pay to the queens.
What are you talking about?
Pay in what form?
Their piece of the action.
Their profit margin.
You've got to pay upper management.
They're part of it.
They want their profits.
Okay, but what are the profits from Earth?
Because you're talking about Anu coming here, taking the gold, taking control of the planet.
It is any tradable commodity.
Not just gold.
Everybody seems to focus on that all the time.
But you're talking about any of the precious metals.
You're talking about humans.
We're talking about anything along the lines of diamonds, oil, coal, any of the precious metals, not just gold itself, but also silver.
And what about human beings?
Well, that would come into it later on after middle management had their uprising.
As far as human trafficking or any kind of alien trafficking, the last thing you want to do Is try and import a slave race from another system.
Psychologically, that just doesn't work.
I'm actually talking about them using humans as food.
Mm-hmm.
I'm also using the women, you know, because I have other witnesses talk about how human women are often used to basically be sort of a birthing receptacle to their own genetic programs, etc., etc.
And great hordes of humans are abducted, taken off the planet and used in these purposes.
Those are things that happen in a secondary capacity because of the primary issue that everybody misses out on, which is once again the economics of the situation.
One thing I've realized when I've talked to other people about this, they always tend to go down this other, what I refer to as a very slanted path of Getting into this other stuff that, you know, kind of derails the conversation from looking at the bigger picture.
They want to get into stuff like what you just mentioned, okay, which is all valid.
No, I mean, you've been trafficking.
You said you were talking about profits, and so I'm looking at what is a profit?
What is a tangible profit?
What would the Arian Empire decide that it wanted off of Earth?
What tangible thing would Anu be trading?
And so you've got to talk intangibles.
These are economics.
I have no problem with that.
If they're trading humans, if they're trading, you know, so you're talking human chattel, you're talking, you know, gold, you're talking minerals, you're talking whatever you're talking, you know, these are all economic sort of things.
And all that plays into it.
As the old phrase goes, as it is above, so it is below.
Whatever we're doing on this planet right now, they've already been doing it out there.
So, you know, just take our society by example.
What do they do on the stock market, okay?
And do you take the sort of Anunnaki, are you seeing them as being reptilian or not?
Canis feudal lords, royal guard.
So we're talking about something that is more on the canine side.
Okay?
So you're seeing the Anunnaki as part canine?
Yeah, because that's where they came from.
They were Anu's loyalists.
It's in the name, Anunnaki.
Okay?
Right.
But you're saying Anu, you think he is a dog being?
Yeah, and in fact, the word canis...
It is on the Egyptian temples and in Iran, Iraq, and so on.
I'm sorry, what was the first part of that?
I didn't hear that.
The Anunnaki are depicted on the temples in Iraq, Iran, the Egyptian temples, etc.
They're all depicted as human.
They often are depicted as crosses in some cases with various reptilians and so on.
But...
There are some dog, certain dog beings that are part of the Egyptian pantheon, so to speak.
But you're familiar with, have you been to Egypt, you know, in the Middle East?
No, I would love to go.
I have not.
I've never had the chance.
But are you familiar?
You've certainly seen the depictions of what they say are the Anunnaki on those.
Right.
Yes.
And I know some of those depictions.
That's humanoid, is my point.
Yeah, and I've even seen some of those depictions that make them look like, you know, half humanoid, half eagle or bird.
But then again, there's a direct relationship historically on this planet between birds and reptiles.
So I can see where people are going when they say, oh, they're reptilian.
Well, it's six and one half a dozen in the other.
Whether they really are or it's just by association with the Canis feudal lords who took their marching orders from the reptilian queens, you know, you could go either way on that.
For me, just following the lineage there, The Anunnaki, which are Anu's loyalists, Anu's faithful, okay, we're the royal guard for him.
He's a Canis feudal lord.
He's a canine.
Okay, well that's an important take on that.
What about Ra?
Okay, Ra is a complete fraud that was invented by the Greys.
They, at a certain point in history, to sabotage the Egyptian mystery schools and the Moorish legacy, they infiltrated the original Amman, the genuine high priesthood.
Who actually inherited all of their information from the original Adam.
And Adam is the official sun god.
Ra is a bunch of bullshit that was invented by the Greys to sabotage the legacy of Adam.
And when the Greys sabotaged the Amman, they called it the Amen Ra, which was a debauchery of the original Amman.
Okay, and where are you getting this information?
Both, once again, from the extraterrestrial downloads and from my mentors.
Everything I've studied over the past 20 years, the Amen Ra is a heinous insult to the original Ahmad.
And Ra itself was slapped onto the end of the term Amen.
Because it was a way of subjugating the slave racing even further by making the greys look like they were the supreme element by associating themselves with the very thing that powered the throne of power, which is the sun.
Okay, and what about the other so-called gods of Egypt?
Do you relate to those as being ETs and so on?
I would, yes.
That legacy comes down through what I refer to in the book as the gene for passion, which was something that came from the Anointed Ones, which is referred to as the Adam, who then passed it on, that extraterrestrial legacy, through the Temple of Solomon.
And when the gene for passion passed through the Temple of Solomon, it was transformed when it came out the other side as the Passion of the Christ.
Okay, how does that relate to the ETs?
Because the gene for passion is an extraterrestrial genetic code that gave the primate slave the ability to crawl out of the muck and mire of their own slave mentality and become self-aware.
That came directly from an extraterrestrial race of beings known as the Ankyles.
And if you're looking for a good depiction of the Ankyles, just watch the movie The Abyss.
Uh-huh.
And how are you depicting them?
What are you referring to?
In the movie The Abyss by James Cameron, those beings are perfect.
Yeah, it looks like artificial intelligence to me.
So they were extraterrestrial beings that have remained as watchers over this planet with the sisterhood.
They are more so like ultra-terrestrials, half in and half out of the third dimension that we exist in, but in a matter of speaking, they kept their toe in the water here with the third dimension just to keep tabs on what was going on.
They are the ones that handed off the genetic code, and it is from the word Ankeel that we get the mispronunciation Angeel, as in Los Angeles, and from Angeel you get the mispronunciation Angel.
So this is where the word angel came from.
And the root word of Ankhil is Ankh, A-N-K-H, which is where we get the modern-day misspelling O-N-K. And what is the Ankh?
Well, far too many people misinterpret it as being the shape of an angel, which is totally off base.
It is the Ankhils were an avionic bird-like race of beings, highly evolved.
And that's exactly what the Ankh is, the head of the bird, the tail of the bird, and the wings of a bird.
Okay?
This grouping, this race, had a very, very close relationship with the brother and sister creators, the master geneticists, which in the cosmology of this solar system are referred to as Prince Aya and Princess Ninhursak.
Prince Ayo is the brother, Princess Ninhursag, the sister.
It is the sister who figures out how to get the beast to walk upright and obey simple commands.
Okay, and do you appreciate that humanity existed, a strain of humanity was not actually descended from the so-called beasts as you call them?
Actually, that's a misinterpretation a lot of people have because that's referred to as what became the Adam, the anointed ones, the offshoot, which we're experimented with even further to elevate them above the status of slavehood.
Now, that offshoot that was no longer part of the slave race, which was referred to as the Adapa, they became known as the Adam or the Iesu.
Also spelled A-T-U-M. Okay, but what I'm saying is that not all of humanity came from the so-called, well, basically the monkey, the primate, whatever you want to call that creature.
Are you familiar with Ashina Dean's information?
No, but I know where you're going with it.
The whole thing about the invasion of the solar system Was a tragic story in itself it represents the great fall because what became before that was the grand experiment in which case this consciousness with our a more healthy version of our primate ancestors was to serve as a living library an outcropping of turning the planet into a living entity
unto itself and Miraculously enough It produces this interesting psychology of self-awareness.
But in the creation of that, you know, glorious experiment there, unfortunately, you know, the benevolent factions weren't paying attention.
And when the malevolent factions came along from the empires, They saw a ready-made race that they could move in and take over and pervert it into something else.
Are you not aware that there are humanoid, you know, that there are humans, in essence, living on other planets and other galaxies?
That this is not the only place that humans live?
Humanoid, yes.
That's where it stops, though.
I mean, the basic three-dimensional structure is a head as a CPU unit, a body as a central processing unit, the head for the RAM, and then you have your peripherals, your arms and legs, so that you can move that consciousness around in the third dimension.
Not all races look like that, but yes, the humanoid structure is the basic foundation And even so, there were other experiments that started elsewhere that turned into the legendary Native American Seven Sisters of the Pleiades, or the Pleiarens.
As far as anything more of odd that came along, I don't doubt that it exists.
But they're not going to Just suddenly show up and intercede publicly because that would basically nullify our existence as being pointless.
We have to do it ourselves.
Okay.
Well, actually, I'm not so sure about that.
So, okay, well, at this moment, you know, I know we've been kind of grilling you for a while, and I don't want to necessarily go too far down this road.
I wanted to give people an idea about how you kind of saw the cosmology, whatever you want to call it.
The origin story, etc.
I think they have something of an idea here.
So we have an audience and usually what I do towards the last half hour of the interview is have them ask you questions.
Oh, sure.
Go for it.
And so I'm going to put that, you know, offer out to the people on the chat room and the questions come in as text.
So they'll be talking into the chat room and I ask people to put their questions in all caps.
It makes it easier for me to sort of find the questions among the chat, so to speak.
Oh, sure.
Yes.
If you don't mind, we'll go in that direction now.
While they're doing all of that, putting their questions in theory down in the chat, do you have a wrap-up or some areas that we haven't gone into that you'd like to say in summation or closing statements for what you've said?
I mean, I'm sure people are probably wondering where the hell did I get the title of the book from, okay?
The More the Mason and the Alien.
It basically defines the three main components or the three main tenets that have affected and influenced life on this planet for the human race.
I purposely stuck the word more first, so it forced people to ask questions, you know, what's a more?
Because they already know about, or some of them think they do, know about masons, they already know about the word alien.
Those are trigger points that have already permeated the average household of suburban America.
But the one that hasn't, and the most important one of all that everybody misses out on, is the Moorish legacy.
You know, and that was initiated by the Egyptian university system of the Commission Mysteries for the sole purpose of establishing a spiritual insurrection against the greys and the corporate titans to give the human race a leg up to basically inherit their own destiny among the stars, their own legacy on this planet, and reclaim the solar system, which is rightfully You know, rightfully belongs to the human race.
And, you know, there comes a point where you've got to learn to accept that 50% of the blame rests at your doorstep.
We all know where the other 50% of the blame goes, but who cares?
You know, we spend more time looking for demons and gods to blame it on.
You know, UFOs and aliens.
We even look for a president to blame it on.
When are you going to start looking in the mirror and take the responsibility of yourself?
You want to solve this problem.
There's nothing supernatural about it, okay?
No matter how ugly or sensational you want to describe it, in the end of it all, it comes down to the bare bones of profitability, economic slavery, and tradable commodities.
And all you really have to do is get out there.
I mean, you and I are doing our part.
You know, I'm wondering what everybody else is doing.
Because a couple weeks ago, I spoke to a room of 80 people.
And I saw the light shine in their eyes when they heard everything I had to say, because then the whole damn thing made perfect sense to them in a way that nobody else has ever been able to accomplish.
And then I challenged them.
I said, okay, there's one of me.
There's 80 of you.
And I said, now what the hell are the 80 of you going to do now that I've told you this?
And that's how you wake up the other 80% of the planet.
Kicking and screaming nonetheless, but wake them up.
Because you have to first destroy in order to create.
And that's where a lot of the kicking and screaming is going to come from.
And once that 80% wakes up in unison with the 20% that already knows what the hell is going on, The malevolent factions are going to have no choice but to obey the laws of feudalism and ascendancy and bloodline inheritance of the human race, pack their shit up and get the hell out.
End of story.
And, of course, they're not going to give it up without a fight, but that's when the high sign will go up that the benevolent factions actually have permission at that point to step in and serve as a frontline barricade against them and force their hand to leave.
But they're not going to do it as long as the other 80 percent is asleep.
Why the hell should they bother helping a race that doesn't even know how to help itself?
Okay.
Now, Now, I'm just gonna, like I said, go through the chat here and ask you the questions that, you know, I see and I'm not sure how many questions there will be.
We kind of go by, you know, whatever happens here.
It looks like somebody is asking you about the avians, how you see the avian race.
I'm just paraphrasing here because they haven't really formed the question very thoroughly.
So do you have anything to say about the avians and are you familiar, for example, with what David Wilcock and Corey Goode are saying about the avians?
I'm not totally familiar about their take on it, but the onkyos are this avionic bird-like race.
As I mentioned before, not exactly completely in the third dimension because they evolved out of it some time ago, but they're half in and half out of it.
So basically, that depiction I mentioned before in the movie with transparent beings that you can see through because they're not there, but they're also there because you can touch them at the same time.
That was a great depiction of them.
Plus, the shape of them was in the shape of A bird.
They had wings on their back.
They had the head of the bird.
They basically looked like a depiction of the Ankh floating around in water.
So that's your avions right there.
And you're going to see throughout history in terms of shamanic symbolism, okay?
The Ankhil is avionic bird-like.
In opposition to their cousins, which are the reptilian queens, okay?
You'll also see in Native American history, the bear is the guardian, as opposed to its cousin, its canine cousin, which is the werewolf, which represents the Canis feudal lords.
So, you know, even down through history, you see these polar opposites that are cousins of each other, but One is for the evolution of the human condition, and the other is for turning it into chattel.
Okay, and specifically, are you seeing the avians as being on the side of humans, or are you sort of seeing them in factions, or are you seeing them as being the enemies of humans?
Definitely not the enemies, definitely on the side of the humans there, okay?
For example, your crone, or the sisterhood as you call them, do you believe that they're compatible with the avians?
Are they in contact with them in a positive way?
Yes, yes.
In fact, some of those avians would even be part of the sisterhood as members.
Remember, the sisterhood is like a central collective of different alien genotypes.
So not only do they have relationships with just about every empire out there in different ways, the good ones, but they also have members that represent those different empires.
Okay.
And where do you put the greys in that scenario?
The greys should be blasted out of existence.
I have no love for them.
I hate them with a passion.
I would slit their throat if I could for what they represent.
Are you familiar with the various different races of greys?
Do you lump them all together or how do you handle that?
Okay.
As far as others go, I wouldn't refer to them as greys.
What I'm referring to as greys are the corporate bean counters who are basically walking supercomputers on two legs who serve as basically remote units who report back directly to the queens of the Aryan Empire.
That's why in alien abduction scenarios, You'll see people constantly report across the board that when these damn things look at them with those false eyes, they feel like they're being scanned as if they're looking right through them.
And who the hell knows what they're scanning you with?
Probably why half the people on this planet have cancer in the first place.
But the reason they feel that is because the technology that's being used to scan them as a lab rat is being reported back to the Queens automatically.
They're master calculators, okay?
They have no soul, okay?
But they are cybernetic organisms.
They're not dumb.
They know how to figure out everything.
Okay.
Okay.
Very interesting.
Let's see.
I'm just scanning really quickly here if there's anyone who has got a question for you.
So just wait, I have to refresh.
The YouTube chat room is not so easy to navigate, so one second here.
Oh sure, you're fine, don't worry.
Do you consider yourself a mason, it looks like someone's asking, and if so, what is the royal secret?
Okay, no.
Masons see me coming.
And right off the bat, they know what I represent.
So I am the pale-skinned outcast that doesn't belong.
Okay?
I get into that in the book in Big Way, too.
Why the spiritual element of the Moorish legacy tends to be predominantly people of color and hue, whereas the Masonic elite is predominantly pale-skinned.
In which case, anything they refer to as black masons are nothing more than lackeys carrying out the dirty work.
Okay?
When I came along, they got wind of it, and I'm seen as the traitor.
Okay?
You are aware there are other white-skinned people that aren't part of the masons that are also kind of talking about yourself as if you're the only one.
But, you know, the point is, where did the pale skin come from?
And I get into that in the book there.
It was done on purpose to create a segregation and a division in the Temple of Solomon and create a huge problem for the Christ energy on this planet.
This, of course, you know, with the creation of the Palskin came the official beginning of the alien abduction phenomena with those European ancestors initially, who were basically transported out of North Africa and dumped into that transcontinental wasteland that nobody else really who were basically transported out of North Africa and dumped into that transcontinental wasteland that nobody else really gave
And this is how all that starts with the European invasion and the basic animosity towards anyone who was female or seven shades darker.
Now, you got to figure people often ask me like, but Rick, you talk about this stuff, but you're white.
I said, yeah.
I said, here's a basic rule of thumb.
I said, reincarnation is for the good guys.
Immortality is for the bad guys.
Do you really think I always looked like this?
There's a reason why Mother Earth brought me back as the pale skin.
Gives them a taste of their own medicine.
It's their worst nightmare.
The pale skin who turns into white masters.
Okay?
And you see this theme across the board in any number of movies or TV shows, from Star Trek Deep Space Nine to The Matrix to Lethal Weapon.
There is even in Star Wars, there's always the concept of the dark-skinned teacher or mentor taking the pale-skinned freak or outcast under his wing and bringing him back into the Temple of Solomon.
Okay, uh...
Someone is asking you, are the greys time travelers or multi-dimensional humans?
I'm not sure how they could get the greys mixed up with humans, but nonetheless, that seems to be the question.
And what do trees cooperate with them?
I understand where they're coming from with that question there, because there's been a debate in the UFO community as to whether or not some of these entities that are Referred to as greys, although I really wouldn't probably lump them in with that, as to whether or not they are kind of like this dead-end evolution of humanity that's come back from the future to try and change things.
I've heard that theory, too.
Okay, so I understand where they're coming from.
Yeah, and as far as the time travel part, I wouldn't doubt it.
I mean, if you're looking to manipulate things in your favor, you're going to plant stale breadcrumbs here, there, and everywhere to lead the academic community down the wrong road.
Okay.
And then the sort of question behind that is, what countries cooperate with these gray time travelers?
Okay.
For the most part, that started with what I refer to as the ivory tower of Europe, which is one part European invasion, one part alien abduction phenomena.
From there, it just spreads out from there.
So basically, you're talking about white Europe and white America collaborating with them, basically anyone above the equator that represents the more developed countries.
Okay, are you referring to the whites as being part reptilian?
We actually all have that running through us.
When you say all, are you talking about all of humanity or are you sort of zeroing in on the whites in some form?
I would say in terms of the way Mother Nature works, it's running through all of us in some way or shape or another.
It's more pronounced in the pale skin, but in our gestation period, nine months of birth, At one point, we look like a chicken, an avian.
At another point, we look like a reptilian.
All right.
We pass through all those phases there because throughout the entire cosmos, we all share a similar gene pool.
I lost the sound there.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, yes.
Okay, gotcha.
Did it make your sound went?
Yeah, I'm here.
I'm here.
Okay.
So, let's see.
Does the queen or sisterhood choose who is abducted and when?
And if so, how are they chosen and why?
Sisterhood has nothing to do with that.
They're the ones that try to stop it because usually it's the children that are being targeted and they take an extreme issue with that in a big way.
As far as those that are chosen by the opposing team, that all has to do with, once again, bloodline and ascendancy.
Being able to reverse engineer yourself into the human race so that, God forbid, there should ever be some kind of a schism between the reptilian queens and the greys.
The greys can then turn around to the queens and say, ah, by feudal law, hands off, we're part of the human race now, and by blood, we're part of this kingdom, and we own it, and we can take it away from you now.
That's the whole motivation behind the alien abduction phenomena.
It's all about that warped and demented mentality about ruling by bloodline.
Okay, someone wants to know, do you think that the greys are from zeta reticuli?
No, I think that's a separate species that has nothing to do with the term greys.
Okay.
Do you think that all humans have implants from ETs?
That's the question.
All humans have implants from ETs.
Some would.
If you're going to tag a salmon that's flying upstream and you want to follow that bloodline, yeah.
On this planet, you have your control group and you have your experimental group, just like any laboratory experiment.
Okay?
So yeah, some of us are going to get tagged.
Some of us aren't.
The goal would be to tag everybody.
But with the way things are going on on the planet right now, I don't see that being totally successful.
Which is why you have this barrage of different methods of trying to get stuff into the gene pool that may very well not be avoidable.
Everything from...
You know, vaccines and serums to nanotechnology floating through the air.
Anything and everything.
It's not just about sticking implants into someone and following the path of the bloodline.
It's about doing everything and anything on behalf of the pharmaceutical multinational, which is the high priesthood, to destroy the temple of Solomon, which is the human being.
Okay?
Henceforth, the evolution of the cancer industry.
Because if you can destroy the body, you can destroy the mind, and therefore vice versa.
The thing that has aggravated the living hell out of them is that they've never been able to target that genetic code in the human being that represents the gene for passion, and therefore our sense of self-awareness in the Temple of Solomon.
This has caused huge animosity there.
And with everything that's happening on the planet right now, you take a step back from it and you realize this is all about paranoia.
This is about a scared animal that's been backed into a corner because it can't achieve the agenda it's trying to go after because the human race is resilient.
You can't get rid of us.
Okay, and when you talk about it, you're talking about, I assume, maybe you can clarify this from your point of view, but a coalition.
So you're talking about the greys, you're talking about what you call the queens, and then you're talking about the serious Ariane, as you call them.
Is this what you're talking about?
The Syrian dukes of war are associated...
The ones that are supposedly on the run or being put up against a wall.
Who are you describing?
What race?
I'm basically describing the greys at this point who are the last ones to take over this solar kingdom and place a quarantine lockdown on it so that no other competition could come in.
Those are the ones who have their back against the wall right now because the human race is waking up.
And this is closing the problem.
And you see this paranoia evident in the fact that one of their own lackeys, who's referred to as the Pope from Vatican City, is going around in a bravado manner, flexing his muscles with the world leaders, keeping them all on board with the agenda so that, you know, everyone gets their ducks in a row.
That's a sign of paranoia.
That's a scared animal when you see something like that happening.
Okay.
And the Pope knows his head is on the chopping block because the Amen Ra, aka the Greys, evolved into the Vatican as the first official corporation to hit the face of the planet and serve as a camouflage, a smokescreen, that they could operate behind.
And this is who they've been taking their marching orders from.
The Pope, the bishops, the arch cardinals, the cardinals and all that.
And this is where you start getting into the area of, once again, human trafficking and pedophilia and all this disgusting stuff that is representative of subhuman trash.
So with Christianity itself being an extremely false corporate-funded religion that has nothing to do with the Christ energy, nothing to do with the Temple of Solomon, and absolutely nothing to do with Judaism and Islam, which are Eastern philosophies.
They are not religions.
But in that propaganda scheme, if you want to legitimize a false history and a false origin story, you're going to take one lie and sandwich it between two truths.
And the one lie is Christianity, and the two truths is Judaism and Islam, which came straight out of Egypt.
Okay.
Let's see.
Someone else wants to know, what is Saturn's role?
Saturn comes around every 29 years.
Pay attention to it.
Mark it on the calendar.
Every 29 years, you go through a reciprocal cycle in your life.
And that's important.
I had that experience myself.
Once again, going back to family values, when I had turned 29, which was in the year 1999, I ended up being invited to a conference down in Clearwater, Florida.
Which is right across the bay from Tampa, okay?
I was on this pristine white beach that I had never seen a beach like this before.
It looked like snow.
I get on the phone with my mother, and I tell her where I'm at.
All of a sudden, I hear the phone hit the floor as if she fell off the bed or off the chair or something.
I was like, Mom, what are you doing?
She finally picks the phone back up.
She says, I can't...
She says, you've got to sit down for this.
You're not going to believe this.
She says, you are standing on the same beach in the same exact spot that I was standing in 29 years ago when I was pregnant with you.
And that's what Saturn represents.
Yeah, Saturn returns.
So you're talking about an astrological connection.
All right.
Thank you, everyone, for your questions.
There have been a lot of questions cropping up over the sort of span of it.
At this time, we've been going for about two hours, and that's the limits of these interviews that I put on YouTube, just because it's really hard to get people to sit through the whole thing.
So I'm going to close this down at this time.
It's been fascinating talking to you and I've really enjoyed it.
I want to say that I do recommend everyone take a look at your book and see what you have to say in terms of the entire background of what you've been saying here on my show.
And do you want to give out your website?
And what I'll do is, and I'm going to put the poster back up here so that the book is visible.
Oh sure, definitely, yeah.
My website's real simple to find.
Just go to ufoteacher.com, all one word, ufoteacher, no spaces.
Hit the enter link and you'll see all the links at the top of the page, book, art, about me, my bio page, my events.
You'll see my event link up there.
You can keep track of what I'm doing.
I actually, you'll see on there, I have a book signing coming up here in Albuquerque at an independent bookstore called Bookworks.
Very well known.
And also keep your eyes peeled on the project I've got that I'm getting off the ground called the Human Origins Global Conference Tour.
I'm looking forward to bringing that to London and also California at some point, as well as the rest of the world.
So just focus on ufoteacher.com and you'll get all the information there.
Okay, excellent.
So thank you so much, Richard Smith, for being my guest and, you know, for your patient answers to all these multitude of questions.
And, you know, I hope everyone has a great night.
And so take care.
And, you know, any parting words, you know, for yourself, Richard?
You know, I look forward to hearing from you guys, and I'd love to hear everyone's feedback, you know, from the book.
And thank you for having me as a guest on the show.
It's been a real honor.
All right.
All right.
Thank you.
And what I'm going to do now is roll the credits.
So you can go ahead and hang up, Richard, and you don't have to sit through that.
And hopefully this will work.
It's always a crapshoot as to whether we can actually get it to do what we want it to do.
Okay.
All right.
I'll hit the leave call here.
Have a good night.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Thank you.
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