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PCTV: Kerry Cassidy interviews Mike Sparks

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	Hi
	everyone, this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and we are going live with Mike Sparks talking about James Bond and the right stuff.
	It's basically a conversation about NASA, James Bond, Ian Fleming, and the secret space program.
	And so I want to say that Mike Sparks is a former U.S. Army Airborne Infantry and Marine officer.
	And he is a James Bond historian.
	And he reveals what he calls the White Space Program.
	I assume that's the surface NASA program.
	Struggles continually just to get into space when a winged space plane pioneered by Chuck Yeager's The Right Stuff test pilots, are putting civilian satellites and soon celebrities into orbit with no problem.
	And this is a fascinating discussion that we're going to have here and sorry for the very strange start we've had.
	We have not been able to publicize this so if anyone finds this, if our producer does share it at the last minute we might get a few stragglers in but this will go onto YouTube and then it will be broadcast on my YouTube channel so people will be able to see the broadcast.
	We had all kinds of very Very anomalous sound issues initially.
	Very sorry for that.
	Okay, so Mike, welcome, and I'm going to put the camera on you here, so you are...
	All right, thank you.
	Do you want to...
	So today we're going to talk...
	Yes, today we're going to talk about...
	What's that?
	Sorry, we have a delay.
	If you could talk about yourself and your background...
	A bit in the beginning before you launch into the topic.
	Oh, right.
	Before we launch into space, right.
	My background is military reformer, and the goal there is to make the military better.
	To do that, you've got to question if there is a better way of doing things.
	So that usually starts at your own level, which in my case, infantry level, is obviously basic ground combat.
	But then, you know, as you get more advanced in your thinking and you start asking about other things, you go to the next level, which would be machines moving you across the ground or across the water, and then machines moving you by the air,
	and then the next step of that, of course, would be space, which is an achievement mankind in this generation achieved in the 1950s, yet As time goes on, we have not gotten better at getting into space.
	So, myself as a young man, watching the Apollo moon shot, supposedly, right?
	And seeing us then thereafter just basically struggle to get into space, it makes you want to do some James Bond work, do some reality confrontation, and then once you find out that it don't fit, you're going to have to do some reality rectiliation.
	So that's the James Bond method.
	If you notice James Bond, Ian Fleming's character, will reality confront these weird things to get a response, to get some kind of tell about what's going on, not just sitting back and trying to run a test tube experiment.
	We'll talk a little bit about that.
	That's no way to view life in this planet or in the universe.
	It's by a test tube repeatability experiment.
	There's more going on here than are.
	Our theology is even able to grasp.
	So there are supernatural actors going on.
	Now, Commander Fleming was of British Naval Intelligence.
	And after the war, he was working for MI6 Special and Secret Intelligence Service before the war for a short period of time and then after.
	And Jim Mars thinks that he was murdered just before the Warren Commission came out because with the 007 fan base, he could have told the world it was bogus and a lot of people would have believed him.
	He was a friend of President Kennedy, and it's suspicious that he died just before the Warren Commission came out.
	So the first question we're going to ask, the reality confrontation is part one.
	Why don't they want Chuck Yeager in space?
	If you've seen the movie The Right Stuff, you will see that they don't want him in space.
	And that doesn't make sense, because at the beginning of the movie, they ask the question, is there a demon lurking around Mach 1?
	You know, the voiceover, is there a demon lurking around Mach 1 and pilots are getting killed?
	And you think, as it be, would want somebody like Chuck Yeager to confront that.
	Is there some kind of supernatural entity stopping you from going faster than the speed of sound?
	Some kind of mechanical resistance?
	Or, you know, let's find something that does go faster than the speed of sound, like the.45 caliber bullet, replicate that in the fuselage of your plane, make the thinnest wings possible in a rocket engine, push the envelope, bang, you've broken the sound barrier.
	So that's reality confrontation.
	Such men that are willing to put themselves in kinetic energy danger have the right stuff.
	So once you've reality confronted, you have this piece of information, and you've got to reconcile that with your previous thoughts.
	So what you have at the end of World War II is that the evil men and women running the world were thwarted by men like Chuck Yeager, Ian Fleming, James Gavin, George S. Patton.
	All these guys have the right stuff, which is a combination of decency and courage.
	They basically put the kibosh on World War II. So the powers that be said we're not going to let these guys be in charge ever again because we saw what happened.
	They break things like the sound barrier to end wars before they're supposed to result in Nazi Germany running the world.
	So in 1954, the Bilderberg Hotel meeting, where they named Bilderbergers, they consciously decided to not build a public utopia.
	They said we could do it with the new technology coming out, but we're not going to do it.
	Because we don't like the people.
	We don't like sheeple.
	So we're going to build a private utopia for us.
	And you can read about it in our new book called Hive Theory, Why Humans Stay in Destructive Rackets.
	It's a free book.
	We're not making money.
	We're just saying, here, let's look at the facts.
	And you can find that free book on Hive Theory on lulu.com forward slash spotlight.
	James Bond is real.
	So that reconciliation took place, unfortunately, with the bad guys.
	The bad guys reconciled what was going on, and they said, we're not going to let good people like Chuck Yeager be in charge ever again after World War II. But what people like Yeager do, even though you push them off to the side, is they're still going to push to try to find out what the truth is.
	And if that gets out to the common sheeple, that would force them to have a reality reconciliation.
	And then, of course, the Illuminati don't want that.
	So, what I do now is ask you the question, audience.
	Have you heard the term, out-of-place artifacts?
	Ooparts, okay?
	What that means is, we have a theory called caveman to spaceman, in that mankind just gets better through trial and error and people crashing in spaceships and planes, right?
	But there's a bunch of things that we've discovered that don't fit into that theory.
	And I'm going to use one example.
	There's an aluminum ingot that was found near a dinosaur bone.
	When aluminum wasn't supposedly discovered until the 1880s.
	Now, in law, we say fraud vitiates everything.
	In other words, if you find one case of somebody lying to you on the other side, that's it.
	You've got to throw the whole case out, right?
	But why doesn't that operate in science?
	It should, because if you found an out-of-place artifact, you damn well need to reconcile it with your reality worldview.
	And there's thousands of these U-parts.
	They've got computers that were recovered from sunken Greek ships and batteries and all that stuff.
	And it's not happening.
	Reality reconciliation is not happening.
	And that's one of the faults that we and all will call this the paranormal world.
	The people that are looking into this stuff are saying, look, life can't be boiled down to test tube experiments of just nature.
	There are supernatural things going on by supernatural actors, and yet they have to be factored in.
	They're happening.
	And so you've got to factor it into your worldview.
	Well, there goes crash goes your secular worldview.
	It just doesn't work.
	It doesn't match what we see in reality.
	So theoretically, there could be a demon at Mach 1, stopping people from going faster than the speed of sound.
	But that guy would have to be goaltending.
	Everywhere on the earth, someone deeming would have to be goaltending mankind and not letting him go past the speed of sound.
	Not likely.
	But that doesn't mean...
	So the best way to look at life is as a crime scene, not as a test tube experiment.
	There's a combination of natural laws that are always taking place, that we got them from a lawgiver, but there's also the possibility of supernatural things injected, right?
	So you know that there's the Bermuda Triangle.
	There was another triangle out in Japan called the Devil's Triangle.
	One guy in a show that's very highly recommended, you should watch, is called Beyond the Devil's Sea.
	This guy said that all we know about the Derbyshire, this was an English iron ore ship, was the last sighting of it was an oil slick.
	He took that oil slick and gambled, put everything behind it, got the families that were missing loved ones to fund an expedition.
	He went to that oil slick and he found the ship.
	He found the iron ore ship and found that the way that the ship was destroyed was the waves were too long.
	The waves from the tsunami were so long that they crushed the front part of the ship and then the second part of the ship and the third part of the ship.
	So he reality confronted the situation and then he reconciled his reality and said, well, at least this isn't one that was destroyed by some kind of demon or supernatural presence.
	But see, we don't have that going on in this generation.
	Such men that will reality confront and then force a reconciliation, they're very dangerous.
	So intellectually curious and confrontational men like Jaeger must not be allowed in space.
	So the Illuminati must have came up with a way to suppress these men of the right stuff from getting into space.
	That's what you see the evidence of.
	You see that there's a space program that has deliberately handicapped us from going into space, By a deliberate dangerous inefficiency.
	Now, the book and the movie, Right Stuff, is a brilliant movie and book, and it's got lots of clues being given in the book and the movie.
	So in 1947, you have the movie beginning with the 1947 struggle to get past the sound barrier.
	And then as the movie goes on, we try to double the sound barrier speed and triple the sound barrier to about 1956.
	So remember 1956.
	Then the movie changes and it shows the Russian cosmonauts launching Sputnik in 57 the next year, causing a red scare.
	But even in the movie, The Right Stuff...
	You'll see a smoke-filled room with obviously President Eisenhower and German Nazi rocket scientist von Braun in there, saying, we could have put the satellite in orbit a year or two ago, but we kept giving the budget to the Navy.
	And that's true.
	I found that independently true in General James Gavin's book, War and Peace in the Space Age, which he wrote in 1958 and discussed when he retired from the U.S. military, Department of Defense.
	Is that we basically knew that the Russians needed a handicap help.
	So we basically gave the money to the Navy, which was incompetent to get into space with satellites, and that gave the Russians a chance to put Sputnik, and then everyone's scared, and that boosts our budget.
	You see, it's an insider game of collusion, where the Illuminati, if necessary, will let the enemy have some help to scare more money out of the sheeple and to...
	Further along their Hegelian dialect, which is problem, reaction, synthesis.
	Make the problem, overreact, force people to compromise, and it's all what they wanted to do.
	But what's highly interesting is that the Rockefeller Illuminati run the FBI, and they were harassing the Rothschild-Bauer German-Jewish Illuminati rocket scientist named Jack Parsons, who was using solid rocket fuel.
	They harassed them so bad that one of the guys in the group named Tsien, he defected to Red China to start their own nuclear ballistic program.
	He was a red, white, and blue American helping us win World War II. And then the FBI starts harassing him.
	Next thing you know, he goes back to red China.
	And that's more of that collusion and instigating the other side.
	And I think that they murdered Jack Parsons.
	He was working in his garage one day.
	Boom!
	No more Jack Parsons.
	But Jack Parsons was doing that weird sex club, you know, religious, we'll call it, franchise from...
	So he was doing all this Illuminati Rothschild sex-obsessed stuff, and I think that the Operation Paperclip with Wernher von Braun using liquid rocket fuel as their way deliberately pushed him out.
	They just said, push those solid rocket fuel guys out, and they were pretty brutal about it.
	Now, if you go into the FBI records, Von Braun did that during the war.
	We tried to paint him as a nice guy and a saint and all that.
	He wasn't warlike.
	But during the war, there was a guy who was a rival to him, and Von Braun got him killed, put into a prison, a war camp, actually a concentration camp.
	And his wife was also thrown into camp too.
	So Von Braun could be brutal.
	so most try to categorize them as an SS major Okay, Mike, can you hear me?
	I just want to slow you down there, because where are you getting this information about Von Braun?
	I do find it very interesting, and can you give us your sources on that?
	Yeah, you go to the FBI files on Von Braun, and their alphabet letter A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H... And you go to each one of the Vaughan files and actually read them, you'll see that somebody tried to kill him with a private airplane aircraft engine malfunction.
	He was sending correspondence to somebody in a P.O. box.
	So he's doing a lot of weird, shady stuff.
	And then in the very last, near to next to the last document, you'll see that during the war, Vaughan had a rival...
	I don't have it in front of me, but I can go back and look it up for you.
	He actually put that guy, a rival rocket scientist, in a concentration camp, killed him.
	So Von Braun's got a lot of shady things that he's done.
	Most people will try to say he looked the other way at the tunnels, the middle works, or he just looked the other way and let people work to death building his rockets.
	The joke is I aim for the stars, but sometimes I only hit London.
	So that's a little bit of a joke, but he's trying to get to the stars.
	First he's got to blow up a lot of innocent Londoners.
	But interestingly enough, Ian Fleming, in 1954, warned about Von Braun clearly in the book Moonraker.
	That book, Moonraker, is totally different from the movie, which we'll talk a little bit later.
	But in it, it's clearly Von Braun is Drax.
	You know, former SS officer, and he has a nuclear-tipped rocket test aimed at London to do what?
	Destroy the financial markets and get a killing on the stock market.
	Now, doesn't that sound familiar?
	They got the idea, the 9-11 people got the idea of reading Ian Fleming.
	Let me ask you, you're saying he was the character.
	How do you know that Ian Fleming intended that character to be Von Braun?
	Did he look like him?
	Was there some obvious designation that made it really clear in the viewer's eye?
	Yes, he was an SS major, Drax.
	Hugo Drax was trying to infiltrate Allied headquarters and a bomb went off and it disfigured his face.
	And that is totally like a guy named Skorzeny who's got a disfigurement from a sword duel.
	And then you've got him taking an alter ego of being an altruistic scientist who's going to give the West rocketry for ballistic missiles to supposedly keep the Soviets at bay and eventually go into space.
	So Drax is a character clearly drawn as a combination of Otto Skorzeny The leader of the Brandenburgers, German SS Special Forces Unit, and von Braun.
	It's a combination of both of those guys.
	I mean, 1954, who fits the example?
	Who's the guy who's been brought over to the West to work on rockets in 1954 and is a genius and everyone gives him everything he wants?
	It's clearly von Braun.
	And he's got mighty men.
	He's got like 50 mighty men working under him.
	It's clearly Operation Paperclip.
	And that's, of course, why the movie is yet to be made of the Moonraker story.
	You'd have to go retro, which I don't see any problem with.
	You've got Anthony Horowitz writing the latest James Bond novel starting from right after the end of Goldfinger.
	And you've got the new Man from Uncle movie starting from 1964.
	So it could be done.
	There's no reason why we can't actually do a Moonraker that's faithful to the story, but it's going to scare the...
	A lot of people.
	Okay?
	Because it's clearly saying that the Nazis were not defeated in World War II and they went in two directions.
	They went south, you know, where von Braun is sending these cryptic mailings, right?
	Or they went undercover and supposedly became good Americans or good British, you know, allied scientists, you know, in Operation Paperclip, which also included supposedly allied intelligence agency, the Gellin Group, It was all Nazi war criminals.
	He took his whole Eastern European spy network and folded it into the new CIA, which is a whole subject I can go on and on and on about.
	But what we want to do is focus on why are we having trouble getting into space?
	And so the FBI, who's not a big fan of a lot of people, you know, sometimes there's some good reports in there and sometimes it looks like they're taking orders.
	They raise the question, you know, some good FBI agents are saying, is Von Braun really working for us?
	And that's what Fleming is saying in Moonraker.
	He's saying they're not working for us.
	They're dragging their feet, you know, to get into space or to get ballistic missiles, and in the case of Fleming's Moonraker, he actually gets a nuclear warhead from a Russian Soviet submarine, and they're going to nuke London.
	So, you know, they're actually going to do a dirty, you know, 9-11 false flag attack.
	So that's all in Moonraker.
	But we're having trouble getting into space.
	There's no doubt about it.
	That's like half the theme of The Right Stuff book and the movie.
	So everyone's demanding we get into space, right?
	So they go to Edwards Air Force Base, and they refuse to use people like Jaeger because they say he doesn't have a college education and he'll have a hard time with the security clearance.
	Well, the FBI is harassing you.
	Your security clearance is going to be screwed up.
	I mean, they're going to find some kind of make-believe or make some make-believe about you to ruin your security clearance.
	That's nonsense.
	But if you look at the whole truth, though, it's a very terrifying thing.
	And I'm going to tell you something here nobody else has figured out.
	Do you know that while the Mercury astronauts are being selected in 1958, it's in the movie, you've got Scott Crossfield and Jaeger, played by Sam Shepard, Holding a model of the X15, which since we're out of slides here, I got my little model of the X15 right there.
	Can you see that, Gary?
	X15? Can you see my X15 model?
	Are we good, Gary?
	Can you see my model?
	Okay.
	Yeah, can you hold it?
	There's your X15. Yeah, okay, great.
	That's great.
	Thank you.
	Okay, here's the part that's going to shock everybody.
	This X-15, right?
	Rocket plane was carried underneath, too, and then it shot into space!
	That's right.
	While they were nominating the Mercury astronauts, the X-15 could have went suborbital into space, but they deliberately didn't.
	They had X-15 go for speed for the first two years.
	So I think that the movie is trying to drop a hint here.
	Because here's Sam Shepard looking at the X-15, and then he's got a smirk on his face saying, you know, we can go into space from an aerospace plane.
	In other words, use the wings of the airplane to get as high as you can with the air, and then go the rest of the way of space, not blasting off from zero altitude and zero speed on the launching pad.
	You see that kind of a handicap?
	That's absolutely nuts.
	So they could have went into space with the X-15 in 1959, before we even had the Mercury space program.
	You see where I'm getting at.
	The NASA space program is a sham.
	It's a deliberate, inefficient way, dangerously inefficient way, to get into space.
	And you see later in the movie, Gus Grissom having a suborbital flight, right, with a rocket, comes back down.
	The blast from the hatch bolts cause a, you know, panic attack.
	They disgraced Gus Grissom, making him look like kind of a coward, and he was just worried about souvenirs in his space suit and all that.
	But the truth of the matter is, Gus Grissom was an engineer.
	He's a guy saying, hey, this is not sound.
	Why aren't we going in the X-15 into space?
	Why are we not taking the X-15 and putting a bigger rocket on it and going into space?
	Why are we not using the X-20?
	Gus Grissom was in the X-20 program.
	And what that was is a space plane that would be on a rocket, so it's a combination of a rocket to get into space and then re-entry with the space, the aerospace plane with the wings, the X-20.
	That was cancelled.
	You see where I'm getting at?
	They don't want military people to get into space because military people are going to ask the hard questions immediately.
	They're then going to overcome the problems.
	They're going to make space routine to get into space.
	They don't want space to be routine.
	So what do you think happens to Gus Grissom?
	This is a rhetorical question.
	Most people should know.
	He was burned up in Apollo 1 fire.
	Yeah, very, very...
	Well, let me ask you something because I've actually got a letter, a recent letter from Captain Mark Richards who worked in the secret space program and he's writing me from prison talking about some very interesting situations going on with regard to the secret space program,
	the one that's secret, and NASA and the fact that NASA in what is in essence the commercial sector Is having failure after failure in trying to get into space.
	And he lists all the problems they've had.
	And basically, also in terms of a telescope that they were going to try to build.
	And then what happened was the Secret Space Program had two leftover telescopes and gave them to NASA. Yeah, go ahead and pull around us.
	I mean, basically telling us, signaling to anyone who has half a brain, what are they doing giving away to telescopes unless they've got some very sophisticated technology out there that they're not sharing with us?
	Right, technology that will get into a high orbit without any problems.
	Right, and so even Mark Richards is talking about the military.
	You're calling them military, but are we really talking about military?
	Are we talking about NASA and the commercial space program, so to speak?
	Well, I'll define my terms.
	But they don't want the Chuck Yeager types in the military getting their teeth into military.
	Man in space.
	So they don't want military men going into space because they're going to make it routine.
	Even though they're working with inefficient means, they'll make it work.
	And then they're going to then, once they're routinely in space, they're going to get to the bottom of things.
	We know about the Black Knight satellite, right?
	In 1962, we got this piece of junk, whatever, that's been lurking in the space space.
	You know, low orbit of the Earth.
	Well, Chuck Yeager and Crossfield and these guys, they would have taken a damn X-15 with missiles to that BKS and they'd get blasted out of the sky.
	They'd get an answer.
	You see what I mean?
	They will confront reality and get to the bottom of this and just, I don't know what that BKS is.
	I don't know, maybe blow up the pixels a little bit.
	See, that's that scientific method.
	No, no, we need James Bond, Chuck Yeager, reality confrontation.
	And then we'll get some answer, and then we reorganize our reality.
	All right, but is Chuck Yeager part of what sector?
	Because technically he would be in the commercial sector, I believe.
	He's not secret space, yeah?
	No, he was when he was on that security.
	He's the face of the white space program that's trying with...
	Bad technology to overcome it.
	Meaning NASA? No, United States Air Force.
	Alright.
	The test pilot school, you know, there's Navy guys in there.
	Don't get mad, Navy guys.
	Navy and Marine guys in there.
	But the test pilot school is asking the question, and I'm going to get to that later, but 12 pilots in the X-15 made it into space.
	Because with the X-15, once the Mercury astronauts got into space, they said, okay, X-15, go for altitude.
	And they got into space.
	See, that's the dirty secret.
	The X-15 did get into space once the guys that were designated, the NASA guys, got into space.
	Then they said, you guys can do whatever you want over there at Edwards.
	Nobody's going to give a damn.
	No one's going to know about it.
	So if you want to go into space and get your little space astronaut wings and pick up chicks at the bar, okay.
	We'll let you do it.
	You see what I'm saying?
	They don't want the sheeple to know there is an efficient way to get into space.
	And it's always nagged me.
	You know, just as a boy, as a young man, I'm saying...
	Why don't they just take the X-15 all the way?
	And you can look it up.
	It says the Air Force and NACA, that predecessor to NASA, said, why don't we make the X-15 the space program?
	They said, no.
	We're going to use NASA and Mercury capsules.
	Then they said, why don't we use Dinosaur, which is a space glider on top of a rocket booster.
	Give the rocket people some money, right?
	No.
	We don't want U.S. Air Force people going into space.
	We want a civilian space program.
	That sounds good.
	But really, that's not the truth.
	It's not because they're not militaristic.
	They want it to be FUBAR. You know what that means, right?
	Military acronym.
	They want a white space program that can't do anything right.
	It's going to blow up every once in a while and kill some heroes.
	Right.
	Well, they've got that.
	Yeah, we've got that.
	And it's undeniable.
	Okay, so you're saying that Ian Fleming was on to us.
	All right, we'll continue as you're going to say.
	Sorry?
	You're saying that Ian Fleming was on to this?
	What did you say, Carrie?
	Are you saying that Ian Fleming was on to this?
	Yeah?
	Why doesn't NASA want to use aerodynamics, okay, that's the air, to get to at least 50,000 feet, 500 miles an hour?
	I call that 5,500.
	Why does NASA keep trying to ballistically go into space and then grudgingly return aerodynamically at zero-zero?
	They're trying to go from zero altitude, zero speed on a launching pad, blasting off.
	I mean, that's nuts.
	You're asking for something to go wrong.
	Why don't you use the altitude that you can get from wings?
	Because the answer is somebody did not want Chuck Yeager that's using aerodynamics to reach space first.
	So in 1961, you've got Gagarin reaching a low space orbit, one orbit around the Earth.
	Then Alan Shepard went suborbital, went back up and went right back down, 627,000 feet.
	Then Grissom went up and went back down.
	And then Glenn orbited three times around the Earth at 861,000 feet.
	Meanwhile, the X-15 had already gone into space, up to 316,000 feet.
	So the thing that I have to clarify is there's altitude to get into space, right?
	And the FAI, the French people say it's 62 miles, okay?
	U.S. Air Force says 50.
	That's just a quibble, okay?
	Where does the blue end, right?
	But to stay in space, you have orbital velocity, okay?
	And that velocity is 17,000 miles, and where you overcome...
	The Earth's rotation and gravity pull so you can keep going around the Earth.
	So you need to go three times the speed to do that.
	But we could get a head start from a mother ship.
	And so at the end of the movie, The Right Stuff...
	It ends, which I think it should have showed the X-15.
	Clearly, it didn't, but it made up for it.
	At the end of the right stuff, you've got Chuck Yeager taking an F-104 Starfighter, taking off, using his wings and jet engine to get speed this way first, and then to get as high as he could.
	Then he flicks a switch with a rocket motor, and he gets up to 120,000 feet.
	At 120,000 feet, the air is too thin.
	He starts getting into a flat spin.
	He's going around in circles.
	He has to eject.
	But he made his point.
	Why can't we fly into space instead of blasting off?
	So that question is 1984 in the movie The Right Stuff.
	And you go, okay, well, alright.
	Maybe you've got a point here.
	Well, guess what, people?
	In 1990, a civilian company called Orbital Space Systems...
	They took a L-1011 airliner, okay, it's an airliner, three engines.
	They put a rocket with wings on it, underneath it, got to that 5500, right?
	They blasted off, and they started putting satellites into orbit.
	So game is over.
	They proved you can get into space in orbit, 17,000 miles an hour, from an airplane start, starting off of an airplane.
	It's over.
	Game is over.
	You see what I'm trying to say?
	People realized this in the 50s.
	They were told, no, you're not doing it.
	Eventually, we outflanked them by the civilian free enterprise system.
	The suborbital company, orbital space systems, said, hey, why don't we do it?
	They did it, and now the game is over.
	The lie has been given up.
	Now, people will say, I don't know about that.
	Okay.
	In 2004, Bert Rutan, okay, he did Spaceship One, okay?
	Remember that?
	He took a big mothership, and then he got Spaceship One, right, okay?
	Dropped it from underneath, lit the rockets, went into suborbital space, right, okay?
	And then, when it re-entered, its wings did this flutter trick, which is amazing.
	I mean, you're thinking, you re-enter, you've got to have a heat shield, right?
	Or, you know, ablative, thermal tiles.
	He has it like a leaf.
	So, where did Bert Rutan get this idea?
	A lot of people are saying, secret space program.
	He revealed something about the speaker space program that they know how to reenter the Earth's atmosphere without having to use heat shields and thermal tiles.
	And, you know, basically they rubbed his noses in it.
	Burt Rutan said to NASA, you know, middle finger.
	You can't say that we can't get into space easier by using aerodynamics, you know.
	And then I warned everybody.
	I said, hey, you better have good security on this spaceship too thing.
	Because they're not happy.
	The Illuminati don't want sheeple in space.
	You know, reality was confronted.
	They forced a reconciliation of reality, and they're not happy.
	And look what happened just a year ago.
	The Spaceship Two, which is bigger, and it's going to put Tom Hanks and his wife, you know, Wilson and Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, they've all got tickets to go into space.
	To get these, you know, nouveau rich people into space, we had an accident, supposedly.
	They said that the pilot accidentally hit the lever to turn the little, you know, flutter wings.
	I mean, come on.
	Basically what happened is they wanted everybody dead, and no dead men can't tell tales, right?
	But by a miracle, so we talk about is there a demon at Mach 1, right?
	There's also angels out there.
	For some strange reason, the co-pilot survived the Spaceship 2 catastrophe, and he broke away from the cockpit and fell in free fall and waited until he got the thicker air, and I don't know if it was an automatic opening device or he pulled his ripcord, but he survived.
	And the co-pilot told the NTSB, FU. The pilot did not hit the lever.
	Okay, but the NTSB doesn't care.
	They're saying pilot error.
	Because the Illuminati do not want sheeple in space.
	It's clear.
	But the pressure is there.
	As technology gets better, even with bad technological approaches, you see what I mean?
	The pressure is getting there.
	I mean, we're overcoming these problems, and it's going to be harder and harder to deny the common people access to space.
	But they're dirty.
	They're not above sabotaging things and murdering people.
	Sure.
	Stop them from going into space.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, so I want to bring you around to a couple other subjects, but I want to make sure you've got your main body of what you want to say out there.
	So, do you want to...
	Go back over the Ian Fleming stuff that you started out with, or can I start off on it?
	Yeah, I'm going back right now.
	I'm going back right now.
	1956, I told you, it was a key year.
	We're going to go back to it a third time.
	But first, I want to go back to Moonraker, the original model Moonraker.
	Compare that to the 1979 movie, where it begins with a space shuttle, On top of the 747.
	Now, if you people know what that means is that when a space shuttle takes off 00 from Cape Kennedy, it re-enters at Edwards Air Force Base, the world's largest, longest runway, right?
	Dry lake bed.
	They then need to transport the space shuttle back to the launch pad.
	So they put it on top of the 747.
	But in the movie Moonraker, which most James Bond fans hate.
	Well, if you ask most James Bond fans, they hate Moonraker the worst.
	And it's because it was definitely far-fetched ahead of its time.
	But it began with the 747 that's transporting the Moonraker shuttle.
	The two guys get inside the shuttle and turn the engines on, and they blast off from the 747, causing it to crash because it's got a single tail and it causes fire and blows up.
	That's kind of ridiculous, right?
	But you've got to look past these movies as just pure entertainment, whether it's ridiculous or not.
	They're trying to tell you something.
	So the writer of this movie wasn't Richard Maybaum, but it was Christopher Wood, the only time he wrote a script for a James Bond movie.
	And Christopher Wood is saying, look, why don't we get into space with a mothership?
	Why don't we blast off from a 747 and get at least 5,500, right?
	And so that's what he's saying.
	Not whether, you know, it's realistic that we're going to move a space shuttle from one part of the country and have any rocket fuel in it at all.
	We wouldn't, you know, trying to make it easy on the 747.
	But you see, you've got to look beyond the face value ridiculousness of it.
	And then the movie we're going to get a little bit later also has another dire warning.
	I don't get ahead of myself, but see, in the second part of this program, we're going to talk about the real space program.
	And the real meaning of what Moonraker the movie is trying to say.
	Now, we all remember the horrific 1986 Challenger space shuttle explosion.
	I mean, it doesn't get more visual than that.
	But basically what happened was they could not take off from the launch pad.
	Once they put the space shuttle together and put a giant liquid oxygen tank, the damn thing would not get off the launch pad.
	It was not generating enough thrust.
	So they had to take the Jack Parsons solid rocket fuel boosters, strap them to the side, totally unsafe, it's dangerous, engineeringly unsound, to be at the same level, everything should be on top.
	If you're going to put an orbiter on top of a booster, you should be on top, not where all that liquid oxygen is flaking off, ice.
	So of course it's going to blow up eventually.
	and that's part of their game plan is to make the sheeple think it's hard to get into space.
	So there's no long-term observations about what's going on in space.
	But also you have the 2006 movie Superman Returns, and it also shows an airliner at 5,500, but the 747 has twin tails, so the rocket thrust from the space shuttle isn't going to burn the launch plane.
	And I propose we do that in my own James Bond story called The Bell Tolls for Thee.
	The poppy is also a flower, which you can get at lulu.com, Spotlight, Bond Girls Canada.
	But basically, I say we should have a 747 for F-35 strike fighters.
	The F-35 is such a fuel hog, it's got no range.
	So one fix would be to make an airborne F-carrier for it.
	But like I said, who says DOD is interested in doing it smarter and more efficiently?
	They'd rather have us keep raising the price in the F-35 every week.
	So, Hollywood and Pine is telling us, you know, in 1979, before the space shuttle even took off, you got the James Bond movie Moonraker showing five or six space shuttles coming out of an Amazon South American base.
	I mean, we're dropping hints here, okay?
	The Nazis, you know, the only thing that would have been worse is if the actor playing Michael Drax had like a Hitler, you know, mustache.
	He had a goatee.
	But, you know, it can't be too obvious or people making the James Bond movies will be murdered.
	So the point of what I'm saying is that the best way to use rocket in the space is a combination of aerodynamics, ballistic rockets, and then aerodynamics.
	The answer is they don't want sheeple in space.
	They don't want us to realize what reality is.
	And of course they don't want us to survive any future extinction level events.
	And then the third reason is they don't want us having any fun or any glory.
	They don't want Tom Hanks and his beautiful wife Wilson in space.
	We're going to leave the better way to get into space to us.
	And in 1962, even the guy, you know, Timothy Good, you might have had him on a program.
	Timothy Good is like Mr.
	E.T. cheerleader.
	Come hug me, E.T. Have your baby for me.
	You know, he's Mr.
	E.T. Even Timothy Good says, in 1962, America had perfected anti-gravity craft.
	So there's the game.
	By 1962, they said, we've got to keep the sheeple down pressed, you know, suppressed, so we're going to create these capsule...
	We're going to keep the military out of space and their aerospace rocket planes, and we're going to keep the anti-gravity to ourselves.
	Now this is the part where it's really going to get you all freaked out.
	Yes, there's a better way into space called anti-gravity craft, and it ain't for you.
	And they don't want the Jaegers and the Flemings and the Gavins figuring us out.
	Remember 1956?
	1956, here's Jaeger trying to get Mach 3 in an X1A, and they're spinning, and there's a movie playing all over the United States.
	That movie's called Earth vs.
	the Flying Saucers.
	1956, same year that Jaeger's trying to get faster.
	This is just nine years after...
	We sent a military invasion force under Rockefeller Illuminati member Admiral Byrd to try to evict the Nazis.
	So in 1952, we had a flyover of flying saucers over Washington, D.C. capital to tell President Truman, back off.
	So in 1956, the movie Earth vs.
	Flying Saucers, which you can go to YouTube and watch it.
	I highly recommend it.
	With an eye not towards entertainment, but an eye towards history.
	What are the people of 1956 know, and what are they telling us?
	And Ray Harryhausen, the guy that did the excellent special effects, was a World War II movie maker in the U.S. Army, along with Richard Maybaum, who made the James Bond movies, except for, like I said, Christopher Wood.
	And so they're both in Army, Air Force or Army, the regular Army, making movies in World War II. And in 1952, the first movie that the Albert Broccoli movie group made was called The Red Beret.
	And you can see my YouTube video.
	All throughout the movie, they're throwing the beret like a flying saucer.
	They're throwing the beret.
	And then in 1957, they make the same war...
	What's the name now?
	Warwick films.
	They make another movie called High Flight in 1957.
	Anthony Newley, the guy that wrote the lyrics for Goldfinger, is an officer in the Royal Air Force going through school, and it shows him drawing a picture of an anti-gravity craft in 1957.
	So clearly, Maybaum, Albert Broccoli, these guys know that there's flying saucers.
	And everyone's seeing flying saucers at an increased rate after the end of World War II, okay?
	So they're dropping hints in their movies that flying saucers are human.
	They're anti-gravity craft, okay?
	And you can see, go to the YouTube channel, Dinah McPara2, my YouTube channel.
	You'll see I show the footage from High Flight and...
	You know, Red Beret.
	So we're dropping these hints in movies.
	Now, it could be, you know, a taunt.
	Sheeple, you're so dumb you don't even see it.
	But I don't.
	I think that Albert Brockley and these guys are trying to get the message out without getting themselves killed.
	But the beginning of the movie, Earth vs.
	Flying Saucers, it's amazing.
	So the movie's made in 1956, right?
	It shows that the main character...
	By Hugh Marlow, and he's got a beautiful wife.
	They're a husband-wife team.
	They're putting satellites in space as an early warning system against alien attack.
	In 1956, we didn't have satellites.
	We had not put in a satellite in space as far as the white world goes.
	Until the next year.
	So here's a movie with the gall, the audacity, just like Moonraker in 79, to say, we're going to have satellites.
	I thought that was very, very, very prescient, whatever, forward shadowing.
	In the movie, then, the evil aliens send a space flying saucer to buzz the young couple, and they have the presence of mind to record the sound of the UFO buzzing them, And it's kind of like a Star Trek thing where they slow down the tape and then they find out there's a message.
	Very good, kind of like X-Files.
	And they go back to their project to put more satellites into Earth orbit to protect us.
	And then the aliens land.
	They capture the beautiful wife's general father.
	And...
	They then send a message, or they decode it, whatever, and then Hugh Marlow says, I've got to go to this location and get on the flying saucer.
	Well, you know, normally people scared of their wits are going to run like crazy or they're going to get angry.
	They're not going to get on any flying saucer, but it's amazing.
	The flying saucer voice, get on board.
	So they get on board the flying saucer, and it shows them zooming away from the Earth with a screen like a Star Trek screen.
	And, you know, none of the actors are getting scared of, hey, we may never get back.
	So, you know, that's a little continuity reality flaw.
	But then they show Dad, dear old Dad, brought in, right?
	And they've lobotomized the poor guy.
	You know, and the daughter is just horrified.
	And they eventually drop them back to Earth, lower them down to Earth, and say, go tell the rest of the humans that resistance is futile and all that crap.
	Of course, they immediately go back to making some kind of microwave cannon, You know, to stop the flying saucer spinning.
	And, you know, I'd be pretty pissed, too, if my father was, you know, killed like that.
	And they eventually show that the UFO, you know, alien just dropped the two bodies in the middle of a forest fire, real nice of them.
	So it's getting you to hate these flying saucers.
	But I didn't say this, but the movie begins by saying...
	There is a bunch of real UFO sightings all over the world.
	So the movie starts from the premise that this is real, and then they take it and run with it with, you know, the external foreign enemy devil, you know, theory.
	But we haven't gotten to the most scariest part yet.
	So we're watching Earth vs.
	the Flying Zoncers, right?
	And they're testing their early microwave cannon out, right?
	And And an alien lands, and he's got this space suit, silver space suit.
	It's a black-white movie.
	I guess I assume it's silver.
	And it looks like the guy from the, you know, Buck Rogers TV show, B-B-B-B, you know, the guy with Mel Blanc voice, you know, that little sidekick.
	It's probably where they got the idea.
	But anyway, they knock the guy unconscious, right?
	They pull the helmet off of the gray E.T., right?
	1956.
	Guess what the head is?
	It's a gray alien E.T. And you can freeze frame the film, you know, watching on YouTube.
	You can see it.
	There it is.
	How did Ray Harryhausen know to depict the aliens as big-eyed, gray alien, you know, mosquito eyes, whatever you want to call it, E.T.'s?
	The gray alien ET thing didn't start becoming popular until the late 1970s.
	Okay.
	With the, you know, Roswell incident.
	Okay, that's a very good point.
	So, where are you going with this?
	Are you basically trying to say that the movie makers...
	Had sort of a leg in that they basically were being informed as to what was coming, just like we know Spielberg was.
	But you're talking even earlier than that.
	So is that your premise?
	Right.
	Yes.
	And I got smoking gun proof.
	Wait till you see this.
	You can go to MI7, which is our James Bond Facebook page.
	I've got it posted there.
	I've got the smoking gun.
	We're getting to the smoking gun.
	But I believe that if your anti-gravity craft are not human-powered, their aliens are actually fallen angel satanic demons.
	So taking that James Bond citizen, James Bond reality confrontation, I go back to Harryhausen and say, what's his background?
	Harryhausen lived in London, England, which is the home of the Rothschild Bauer Illuminati, the Temple of the Golden Dawn.
	The Illuminati defector John Todd, who I actually saw in person in church in the late 1970s, he said that the Rothschilds, when I mean the Rothschilds, the number one guy, actually talks to Satan himself.
	If that doesn't scare the Shiite out of you, he's talking to the lead evil supernatural being that's running the world into the ground.
	He's talking to them, okay?
	Harryhausen could be a member of this satanic coven church.
	But it gets worse.
	It gets better if you want to be scared of the wit.
	Okay, can I... Mike, okay, hold on.
	I want to ask you how you know that Rothschild is talking to Satan.
	What is this person's name, again, who is claiming...
	John Colt.
	John Todd is not his full name.
	Collins is his full name.
	John Todd Collins was a defector from the Illuminati.
	And he went around churches saying things.
	Now a lot of people tried to undermine him because he backslid and started sleeping with some girls or whatever.
	But just because somebody backslid doesn't mean what he's saying isn't true.
	That's just character assassination.
	And everything that he said about the Illuminati has checked out.
	And he says that his sister would just, as a joke, go into Ohio and conjure up demons to make themselves look like UFOs, to just give people a thrill.
	So I say that most UFOs are actually human anti-gravity craft at a ratio of 75%, and I think 25% are supernatural fallen angels fooling us.
	And, you know, that's where the technology came from.
	We had the people in the real society...
	That had seances with the hot chicks with the long hair, Maria Orsic, and all those wonderful gals are having seances, and they're saying build anti-gravity to get into space and into the air.
	Don't try to use pressure air differential lift.
	And people like that say, hey, you're giving me technology.
	I'll sign up for it.
	That's why most humans are.
	They don't understand there's a price to be paid.
	And it just so happens the guy in that Golden Dawn temple...
	Church, if you want to call it.
	Aleister Crowley helped Ian Fleming con the number two Nazi, Rudolf Hess, to fly to Scotland, which is amazing.
	He was a pilot.
	On a face peace treaty, they captured him, threw him in the Tower of London, and then later on they threw him in the prison in Germany, West Germany, and they never let him out.
	They kept him there until he died in 89 under suspicious circumstances.
	All right, we're finally going to let you out, Rudolph has.
	And then he gets strangled by some piano wire.
	Thanks.
	But why are they keeping Rudolph out?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Slow down, slow down.
	So, okay, so you have Ian Fleming working with Aleister Crowley, you're saying, to take a Nazi, to put him in the Tower of London.
	So what was the motivation...
	Why did they do that to Hess?
	Okay, well that's cool.
	It's a digression here.
	Hess may have really been on a real peace treaty and they didn't want peace.
	Plan A of the Illuminati was Germany and Russia were supposed to go at it and everyone makes wonderful war profits.
	So it could have been a restoration of Plan A. Plan A got disrupted because somebody told Neville Chamberlain, the Prime Minister of England, that he was A P, okay, he's a wimp, coward, you know the P word?
	And that so enraged him, he said, we're going to defend Poland.
	And the people that told him that were MI5. MI5 is like the FBI. They're supposed to be internal security.
	So why is Neville Chamberlain listening to MI5 about foreign policy?
	You should be listening to MI6 about foreign policy.
	It's a mystery.
	Why did Neville Chamberlain Promise to defend land-lacked Poland.
	It's stupid.
	What that did is made Hitler go west instead of east, according to Plan A. So now we're in the middle of Plan B. Aleister Crowley, in the middle of Plan B, is going to lose his Temple of the Golden Dawn, all of his chickies.
	He's going to lose all of his power.
	If Nazi Germany invades London, it's going to be curtains for him.
	So yeah, Aleister Crowley is going to help Fleming defeat the Nazis because the Nazis got misdirected.
	I don't know the answer to that.
	I'm being honest intellectually.
	I don't know if God himself misdirected them into Plan B, or it was just a typical Satan con.
	Haha, you guys think you're going to make massive war profits?
	Wrong.
	We're going to firebomb some of your cities too and see how you like it.
	But it's coming to a point here.
	Aleister Crowley, in 1918, went on an excursion to the desert.
	And he met an alien being called Lem.
	So in 1918, he starts talking to this alien, and it's the guy with the big head and the alien bug eyes.
	So Aleister Crowley could have told Ray Harryhausen what the ETs looked like.
	Because Aleister Crowley did not die until 1947.
	Okay, just a power, you know the word of mouth.
	Hey, you know, are you going to make a flying saucer movie?
	Cool.
	Hey, this is what the aliens look like.
	Hey, thank you.
	As it's a matter of fact, that Harryhausen talked to the UFO contactee, George Adamski, to get clues on how to make the flying saucer.
	So, you know, Harryhausen's doing his homework.
	Okay, but it gets even worse.
	The smoking gun is coming.
	Wait for this.
	We find out that Ray Harryhausen is pals with Satanist Ray Bradbury and Forrest Ackerman.
	They're pals for their whole life.
	I found a picture of Ray Harryhausen at a party with Church of Satan members circa 1972 with Forrest Ackerman.
	Smoking gun.
	Ray Harryhausen was a Satanist.
	I've got them at a Church of Satan meeting with some hot chicks.
	Hey, sounds like a good plan.
	Ray Harryhausen was on the inside knowledge.
	He's got the inside knowledge of what the aliens look like.
	They're demons.
	And, you know, the military-industrial complex has got inside knowledge, starting, we'll just give the Nazis the credit for this, okay?
	Alright?
	There's some people who think we were started early with, you know, anti-gravity, too.
	Bill Lynn thinks that.
	He thinks it was early in 1936.
	He thinks that Von Braun knew about anti-gravity.
	No, I mean Tesla.
	Hello, Tesla.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I haven't gone out to Tesla because I admire him.
	He might have been a Satan.
	Tesla brought anti-gravity to us even before the Nazis.
	Yeah, Bill Lynn goes with the Tesla electrogravitics line of thinking.
	But the point is they're getting supernatural help.
	They're saying, we'll cut a deal.
	We're going to thumb our nose at God.
	What are you going to give me in exchange?
	Women with nice chests, and we're going to get some technology.
	Okay, sign me up.
	And so, Harryhausen died, doesn't live forever, right?
	And you go to the blog, the Church of Satan blog, and there it is.
	They've got a glowing tribute to Harryhausen, and he's got his little stop-action figure.
	You know, a skeleton figure from Jason and the Argonauts.
	Lovely stuff.
	We buy, I'm sure anyone listening to this will buy that Harryhausen is a Satanist based on the information you're giving us.
	And he made movies on top of it.
	Nothing unusual in that even today.
	But where are you going with this in terms of once we're convinced that Harryhausen is a Satanist, Then what?
	Well, we've got to know about the anti-gravity craft, because if you then go into his movie, where it refers to the flying saucer, with the eyes that he's, you know, leaving breadcrumbs.
	You know, it's obviously breadcrumbs for the decent people.
	He could have been a decent guy, you know, like Ian Fleming, giving away secrets.
	Or, you know, Kilgore were there, you know, mocking the sheeple for not figuring this out, which they call revelation of the method.
	So it could be that too.
	But in this scene when the UFO invites Hugh Marlow and his hot wife on board, they say that it's an anti-gravity craft.
	So the craft also rotates in the movie, so that's giving you the idea that maybe they're circulating Mercury as one of the methods of anti-gravity negation like that, right?
	But the point of that is, if you look at it not as entertainment, but as a very dangerous game that they're playing of either revealing or mocking us, the movie takes on a very scary turn to it, which is that we have a secret space program.
	We have, since 1962, perfected it.
	And that's, you know, independently verified.
	You can go out to Area 51 and see in the distance.
	And you will also notice that the spaceships are getting bigger.
	The anti-gravity craft are not, you know, changing that much in their appearance.
	They're getting bigger.
	And that would indicate a transport function.
	Now, I have videos on YouTube where I talk about this.
	There's a very hard problem here, is how do you weaponize something that's got an anti-gravity field around you?
	Harryhausen just puts a dish in the bottom and just shoots a death ray.
	But that would disrupt the anti-gravity field.
	I say that it's a problem.
	I say that it's not easy to weaponize anti-gravity craft.
	So their military utility is limited.
	It would be limited to spying on the enemy, you know, reconnaissance, or inserting, extracting spies or commandos, or replacing a nuclear bomb.
	Ian Fleming, in Thunderball, he calls the ship the Disco Volante.
	Why?
	He's saying the ship is a flying saucer, and then the ship has got two stolen nuclear bombs.
	Ian Fleming is trying to put two and two together for us.
	In the 1950s, one of the first UFO sightings in South America, it says in the headline, Disco Volante sighted in Peru.
	And so what Ian Fleming is trying to get you to do is do some homework, and I guess hard because you don't have the internet and you've got to go into the microfiche or whatever, you know, old newspapers.
	But he's trying to say that the UFOs that we're seeing could be used as nuke bomb emplacement things.
	And that's what the Thomas Mantell sighting is all about.
	I've got a video on this where I just dissect it, but in 1947, Over Fort Knox, Kentucky, the Nazis love gold.
	You have a UFO hovering at low altitude.
	So all these people saying it's just to help a weather balloon and all that, they deliberately don't reconcile reality with all the facts.
	It's hovering at low altitude, spying on Fort Knox, and then zoom!
	It goes straight up into the sky.
	Just so happens Thomas Mantell is flying a P-51.
	I've got a P-51 model I can go bring in.
	But anyway, the P-51 flight happened to be in the area.
	They zoomed.
	And Bill Lynn actually talked to one of the survivors and said that Mantell got too close to the anti-gravity craft and it mangled his P-51, and he's the first man to be killed, you know, in the white world, from a flying saucer chase, which I think were Nazis, because the Nazis love gold.
	They just do.
	It's their MO, you know, modus operandi, okay?
	Me, it'll be chocolate milk, okay?
	See, chocolate milk might be nearby.
	Okay.
	Or Dr.
	Pepper.
	But the Nazis love gold.
	So, you have these sightings in the early 40s that are, you know, demanding an explanation.
	Now, here's the part that gets really interesting.
	In the movie The Right Stuff, John Glenn's heat shield is about ready to come off.
	Okay?
	Remember I said that You know, the first question is, are there demons out there at Mach 1, right?
	The movie, The Right Stuff, has it, and at first when I saw it, why did you include this?
	Alright, it's there.
	John Glenn's heat shield's coming off.
	He's going over Australia, and his buddy is there to keep the radio relay going.
	And they light a bonfire, the Aborigines, and the sparks, pardon the pun, okay, pun intended, go all the way up into space, and it's true, astronaut Glenn saw sparks in space, and he brought Tang out there too, into space.
	I like Tang.
	Anyway, his heat shield held on, and he didn't burn up, okay, unlike what happened to Columbia Space Shuttle in, you know, 2003.
	So I'm saying that there are demons and angels out there.
	And the people with the right stuff are the people that are going to have to reality confront them to find out if they're angels or demons, okay?
	That's one of the key reasons the Illuminati don't want us up there.
	Because it will scare the crap out of us into believing the Bible.
	I mean, one of the side effects of demon possession, which I've dealt with demon-possessed people before, and I've cast demons out of people...
	It no longer leaves you with an option to believe in God.
	It's no longer an option.
	It's a tactical thing.
	It's tactical.
	Demon-possessed person is going to kill you unless you say, I take charge of this room using the power of the Lord Jesus Christ, His blood, I'm a Christian, save me, protect me.
	If you don't do that, you're thrown through the window by some 100-pound chick.
	So it's not for me to believe in Christianity is not an option.
	Okay, Mike?
	Hello?
	Mike?
	So, I understand that you're sort of likening aliens to demons or angels, so to speak, and that's happened throughout history, and that's okay.
	It's like a rose by any other name is still a rose, alright?
	So let's agree.
	Let's not get caught up in that discussion as to whether aliens or ETs are actually so-called demons or angels any more than humans are demons and angels to be honest.
	But let's not even go there at this moment.
	What I want to go back to is where you're going in terms of the sort of surface space program And the premise that you're bringing forward here, just so we don't lose track of what you're trying to say.
	Oh, no, I know.
	I can digress, and I've talked about this other stuff before anyway.
	No, what I'm saying is the military technology application for anti-gravity craft is a difficult one, okay?
	So you see them then going another tangent, and that tangent is the giant anti-gravity craft that you're seeing, That would be a transport function, and it goes right back to Moonraker in 1979.
	Christopher Wood makes Moonraker.
	The movie is not liked.
	One of the things that people don't like about Moonraker is that space shuttle looks like Kmart.
	Who wants to stay forever in space in that rinky-dink space station?
	It's not Noah's Ark, even for 40 days.
	It's only for a short period of time...
	That the Moonraker, you know, perfect couples go to the Moonraker space station.
	They're only going to be there long enough for all the sheeple on the Earth to be killed off.
	See, I didn't pay attention because, you know, we're watching a James Bond movie and you want to see cleavage and explosions.
	And I don't see any, you know.
	Like in the last movie, The Spy Who Loved Me, you got cleavage all over the place.
	You know, and this chick, she doesn't show much.
	And that makes a downer movie.
	So, you're watching this and you're, you know, as an adolescent, you want boobs and explosions.
	And you missed a little finer point that the movie is saying that the elites only want to get off planet for a short period of time.
	Then they want to go back when six billion of us are gone, and they got a lot more elbow room, you see.
	That is extremely profound message in Moonraker.
	And I don't care if the movie doesn't entertain you.
	The movie is making an important warning, you see.
	Okay, so you're seeing UFOs, you're saying anti-gravity craft, you're seeing them as transport vehicles as they get bigger.
	Right.
	Is that the idea?
	Right.
	Yeah, they've been getting bigger and bigger over time.
	Okay, but beyond that, initially you were talking about how the Illuminati are not wanting to let the commercial space program get very far.
	I mean, they're letting them go to a certain point, yeah?
	Right, they'll let them do the unmanned probe as long as, you know, they control the feed.
	Okay.
	You know, I'm not one of those feed guys.
	What's his name?
	Hoagland.
	He's got a hot wife, though.
	I admire that.
	But anyway, Hoagland, I don't know if I trust that guy, but you know the Hoagland stuff.
	You know, there's no chain of custody.
	You've got this feed coming, and they're seeing this thing that looks like a woman or just a strange light from the Mars rover and all that.
	You know, fraud vitiates everything.
	We've got to look at things like a crime scene.
	You know, if you aren't seeing it in person, which is why we need a manned space program.
	We need a manned space program so we can put John Glenn out there, a Chuck Yeager, or a Mike Sparks, or a Carrie Cassidy.
	And when they see it, they're going to get off their butt and chase the thing down, put it in a cage, bring it back.
	And reality confrontation.
	Not this, well, I think if you sharpen the pixels here, that kind of looks like a maiden.
	Or no, that looks like a flare from the reflection on the spaceship.
	There's no certainty.
	So they'll go along with the spaceship.
	There's no conclusion.
	Okay, I appreciate that.
	But what I want to do here is find out where you're going with this kind of premise, because now you're bringing in A population elimination program and getting off the earth temporarily.
	Where are you going with that?
	We have earth changes possibly coming, etc.
	Are you going in that direction?
	Are you creating in your mind or are you looking for evidence out there of a diabolical plan to eliminate the population and by what means?
	Well, we have no choice.
	The facts are driving us.
	You know, I talk once in a while to Carol Rawson, and she was Von Braun's assistant.
	And Carol says that Von Braun told her before he died that they were going to play fear cards.
	You're aware of this quote, I'm sure.
	Yes, I am.
	The first fear card's going to be your rogue nations, your terrorist attacks.
	And when that no longer scares the crap out of you, then you have nuclear war.
	And when that doesn't scare you anymore, you have asteroids.
	And then the final fear card is going to be E.T. They're going to have to keep upping the terror ante with the sheeple, because the sheeple have already seen that.
	It's a rerun.
	It's a repeat.
	We've already seen 9-1-1 with the terrorists committing suicide.
	Ho-hum.
	It's got to be something bigger.
	Okay, but...
	So what I'm trying to do is get ahead of the threat so we know what game they're playing and you've got to do it.
	I mean, you've got to lay the groundwork and that's what we're doing in this groundbreaking broadcast today is I'm showing that the action-reaction rocketry and action-reaction aerospace, you know, aerodynamic programs have been deliberately hobbled.
	Okay?
	There is no reason why we can't just build...
	A bigger NF-104 starfighter.
	You know, that was what Chuck Yeager took to 120,000 feet with the rocket.
	Why don't we just build a bigger one of them?
	And the answer is, why don't we?
	Because they don't want space to be routine.
	Okay.
	But let me ask you something about Yeager.
	Because Yeager, I just read that he actually did another test to break the sound barrier or something like that when he was 89.
	I'm wondering if Jaeger is not on board with...
	In other words, he's not quite necessarily the groundbreaking hero, the rebel that you're painting him out to be.
	Are you sure that he was really...
	Was there pushback on him?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Well, yeah.
	The thing is, I haven't decoded him because he's still alive and I'd like to interview him discreetly.
	You're giving away some of my research...
	Well, I mean, I don't want to make that.
	I want to know, you know, I want to know is Chuck, you know, because you're talking about a man, a hero, like Chuck Yeager, who could come forward and say, look, it's not, you know, the white space program as you call it.
	I call it, you know, NASA commercial.
	You know, they're not being allowed to get into space.
	Why doesn't he break the silence?
	He's not doing that.
	He could.
	You know, when you start getting old, and you're going to kind of go there, you know, the great out there, the great edge of the envelope, they are worried.
	The Illuminati are worried that people that are the insiders might just have an attack of conscience.
	Okay.
	Alright, and then you're also saying that you think that there's going to be some kind of population elimination plan, and you think it's going to involve what you're talking like in my parlance would be called Project Bluebeam.
	An ET sort of invasion scenario in which ET is the bad guys and they're going to be responsible for eliminating large numbers of the population.
	Would you be going in that direction?
	Well, that's one option.
	You've got like a flow chart.
	The ET's could be nice, right?
	Your ET, Steven Spielberg cuddly ET's.
	If you're going to do that, make sure they're Nordic and they've got a nice figure.
	I try to put a little humor in there.
	But if you've also got the evil E.T. wire diagram, and that could be deceptive like the Rod Serling To Serve Man episode where Richard Keel plays the alien.
	And they give a book to man and say, hey, we're telling you everything we're going to do.
	It says, to serve man.
	And then, you know, Lloyd Bauchner gets on the spaceship and his assistant runs up there, don't get on the spaceship!
	It's a cookbook!
	Okay?
	So it could be nefarious like that.
	Or it could be terrifying like, you know, Independence Day, shoot him up.
	Or it could be just completely one-sided like the Childhood's End story.
	By Arthur C. Clarke or don't like that guy.
	You know, we can talk about him.
	Sorry, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Why don't you like Arthur C. Clarke?
	Childhood's End is a great cautionary tale.
	Oh, it is.
	It's a one-sided.
	You know, these guys are kicking butt and there's not much we can do about it.
	Well, not completely.
	Maybe he read it in a certain way.
	But he was read in on the secret space program.
	Not much we know.
	Oh, no doubt.
	And guess who Arthur C. Clarke hung out with at the British Interplanetary Society?
	Wernher von Braun and Ian Fleming.
	Okay, but I thought Ian Fleming...
	That's another research trail I've got to go after.
	Alright, but I thought Ian Fleming was a kind of hero of yours.
	He is.
	Whatever he's finding out, he's decoding it in his James Bond novels.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And by the way, I'm sure that Carol Rosen is not thrilled by your opinion of Von Braun either, right?
	No, I just don't know if he's really a dastardly guy or a good man.
	But I will say this, if he did say what he said, that does a lot of redemption.
	The fact that he gave us that warning of the fear cards, I'll definitely attribute that to his positive ledger, for sure.
	Okay, so when he was on his deathbed and telling her that fact, you forgive him at that point, yeah?
	I'll take heroism and decency whenever we can get it.
	Okay.
	Alright, I want to read you something right now from Mark Richards, a letter that I received.
	Unless you want to finish and wrap up your premise, because I don't want to interrupt the train of thought.
	So tell me where you're at.
	Oh, I just wanted to say one thing.
	There's a British GCHQ PowerPoint briefing called Deception.
	And it says, I'm not Batman or something.
	I am Batman, but the ways of deception.
	You've seen that PowerPoint briefing.
	There's a bunch of slides in the middle where it shows how the Arabs love their psychopathic terrorists as long as it's in Arab colors.
	Then suddenly, the slides change to a menu sign of buffalo meat for sale for lunch.
	And then there's flying saucers, showing a 1950s flying saucer, then a more modern version of flying saucer, and then the next slide after the flying saucers shows a rubber tire and a wagon wheel versus a camera versus a cell phone camera.
	So there's no text to go around with these PowerPoint slides, so you kind of have to guess what was GCHQ telling people.
	It looks like they're saying that the anti-gravity...
	Craft coming from outer space is a hoax, is what the implications are.
	Okay, GCHQ is the British version of the National Security Agency.
	They spy on everybody, surveillance.
	Okay, but I'm not sure I'm getting that from your description.
	I'd have to see those slides.
	Well, you've got the slides, essentially the slides, and you can just look it up around slide 35.
	Okay, well...
	Suddenly, you've got flying saucers in the middle of this thing that's supposedly about deception.
	That's kind of really startling.
	You're expecting them to talk about, you know, marketing.
	You know, low-level marketing to make the enemy do what you want.
	And suddenly we've got flying saucers.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	I do have an interesting letter from Mark Richards here that I just received while I was traveling, so it came in August, end of August.
	But he's talking about repeated problems with the space program, and he says, despite the milestones, commercial spaceflight suffered major setbacks starting in October 2014.
	Virgin Galactic Spaceship 2 crashed while testing a new fuel, killing one pilot and seriously injuring another.
	A smaller version of the space plane won the XPRIZE a decade ago by crossing the boundary of outer space, and the company had hoped to finally begin flights for customers in 2015.
	The crash came days after the Orbital Sciences' Atari's This rocket exploded carrying supplies to the International Space Station.
	Questions soon emerged about the company's use of a 40-year-old Soviet rocket engine to fill a $1.9 billion International Space Station contract.
	Both companies launched investigations but lost a great deal of the public support.
	Again, it would seem as if the government funds were being channeled off to pay for related but more secret space programs and any civilian efforts to get into space were going to be hampered by economic attack or open sabotage.
	And then he goes on to talk about other substantiation of how the commercial as well as NASA's Efforts to get into space, to get things off the ground, are simply going nowhere, time and time again.
	You're right.
	So the question is, with technology improving, that should not be happening.
	So what I tried to do in this program is show that we can fly into space with aerodynamics.
	They could have done it in the 50s.
	They said, why aren't we doing it?
	We finally did it.
	So we should be getting better and better.
	Getting into space.
	But if you keep defaulting back to zero-zero, blast off from the launch pad, you're going to have failures.
	Because you're doing it in a stupid manner.
	You need to be making a larger mothership.
	They're using old technology as well, as it happens.
	Yeah, but I'm saying that that technology is ballistics, right?
	Right.
	Ballistics is the hardest way to get into space because you're not using the atmosphere to get you at least some altitude and speed.
	You're trying to go from zero altitude, zero speed, zero to hero.
	And that is stressful.
	That's an extremely stressful, extreme way instead of easing your way into space.
	Right?
	And it smacks of deliberate sabotage, dragging their feet.
	And we put it, you know, in this program that we can get into space with a mother, you know, aerodynamic ship, so to speak, you know, a mother ship.
	And they're not taking that path.
	They keep defaulting back to these blast-offs on the launch pad.
	At least in the public.
	And it's hard to make money that way.
	In the public, you know, in this public sector, yeah?
	Yeah, the public sector.
	Blast-off.
	Mike, where is your...
	I want to take questions from the chat.
	We've been going for a while.
	Can you tell us where your next lines of inquiry are going to go before we start taking questions, okay?
	So where are you headed with your...
	I'd love you to tell us the names of your books again.
	We'll put them on the website so people can find them.
	Where are you headed now with your research?
	Right.
	What I'm saying is that if somebody talented like a Burt Rutan would come out of retirement, I believe you could make a space plane that doesn't need a mothership.
	You take the NF-104 example.
	Of a combination jet engine and a big rocket motor with a lot of fuel that can reenter once it leaves the atmosphere and get into orbit 17,000 miles an hour.
	I believe we can actually have an aerospace plane just off and use staging from the plane.
	You know, go from jet engine 5,500 or 50,000 feet, 1,000 miles an hour.
	But you see the idea.
	And to then go to rocket ship, there's a company trying to do this, Skylon, and they're doing it in a very difficult way.
	They're trying to make the same jet engine that burns air and fuel in the atmosphere.
	They're trying to make it change when the atmosphere runs out into a hydrogen-fueled rocket engine.
	And to do it, they've got to circulate the fuel around the spaceship, And they have cooling fins to cool down the fuel, cool down the outside edge of the aerospace plane, and it seems awfully complicated.
	Why don't you just have one engine to get you as high as you can in the air, and another rocket engine to get you into space?
	Is what I'm saying.
	Okay?
	Yeah, but if the Illuminati...
	The criticism they might say...
	Is that the aerospace mothership combination with plane doesn't give you enough payload.
	Well, I'm just obviously saying, make a bigger mothership, or like I said, make a plane that flies itself into space.
	Okay, but didn't you just say that it's not the planes that are the problem, although I agree with you, of course the method is seriously flawed.
	It's actually the prevention, it's the sabotage that's happening behind the scenes.
	Right, a program could be cancelled, right, or they kill the Gus Christians, or they actually sabotage the spaceship too.
	I think it was sabotage.
	I think they screwed around with the lever on spaceship too, so that it would prematurely flutter.
	During the boost phase and causes the spaceship to break up at high altitude.
	Sabotage.
	I just think that there's a lot of naive people out there who think that the world is a neutral place.
	There's only these laws of nature that are repeatable and attested.
	And that's all you've got to concern yourself with.
	No way, baby.
	Life is a crime scene.
	And if you want to go into space, you better have good security.
	Because there's a lot of people who don't want you to get in this space.
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Now, what I want to do is take some questions in the chat, but I actually can't find it.
	All right.
	So I need some help from my producer to actually help us find the questions, and I'm going to try to find them myself on another computer I've got standing by here.
	Okay.
	And I know that they exist, in theory, because we do have some...
	I've got one question about the librarian.
	Okay, go ahead.
	With Noah Wiley.
	Alright.
	I like the show.
	I think he's trying to make people think in a non-linear fashion.
	And I think it's the encroachment of human creativity, the right stuff, It is going to continue to the edges of the limits the Illuminati has under us.
	So it's going to happen.
	It's good.
	It's a good thing.
	And then the next question I got, what was Arthur C. Clarke's involvement with the Illuminati?
	Well, it looks like he was a pedophile.
	He was in the British Interplanetary Society.
	He wrote 2001, which is a direct attack on Christianity, and I decoded that with Jay Wiener, with help of Jay Wiener, so he is a man of Christianity.
	He is of the mind that mankind must be given these learning events with the obelisk, And these learning events punctuate man to get off his butt.
	Otherwise, he would just be eating, gnawing on bones from hyenas.
	So he's beating on the hyena, chowing down on the bone, and they're throwing the bone up in the air.
	Next thing you know, you've got the wonderful music, Blue Strauss music, Blue Danube, and all of a sudden...
	You've got the spaceship...
	Space Shuttle, you know, from Pan Am.
	It's too bad that was the airwaves.
	I actually flew on the 41.
	But, you know, 2001 is a story of man saving himself.
	Which is the classic Illuminati game plan.
	You know, just keep working at technology.
	Then we're going to keep Carrie Cassidy looking young and beautiful forever.
	And then we'll go on another planet and make more Cassidys.
	That's not a bad plan.
	But first we've got to get some problems resolved here, you know, in the biological level, with some help from God.
	I don't want to be like a cyborg, like half my arm is, you know, mechanical, because the rest of me is crap.
	You know, that's that transhumanism stuff.
	Well, but transhumanism is the way of the space program, yeah?
	Yeah, the thing is, it's a very good question.
	Someone asked, are superconductors used to push away from the Earth and control a ship?
	Very good question.
	Gravity is not a powerful force.
	I mean, you know what I mean?
	All told, it's not that powerful.
	Is reflecting that gravity causing the anti-gravity craft to...
	Move at high speeds because you've got to move at least 17,000 miles an hour to escape, I mean, to get into Earth, you know, orbit.
	25,000 miles an hour to escape Earth gravity.
	That is an excellent question, and that's the kind of questions that have to be asked, and then we've got to look, scoop around to find out what evidence we have of maybe superconductors Are being used, or some kind of Tesla.
	You know, Bill Lynn gets all pissed off about this.
	It's not anti-gravity, it's electrogravitics, you know.
	That's not my forte.
	How the damn thing flies, you know.
	And it is an important question, is where is the thrust coming from the anti-gravity craft?
	Excellent question.
	I don't have the answer.
	I know how to get the answer.
	You've got to confront reality.
	You've got to confront reality.
	What we see.
	And I always say, if you see a flying saucer and it's over your home turf, shoot that guy.
	If that doesn't do anything, you break out your King James Bible and see what happens.
	But I'm in the confrontational thing.
	It's one, trespassing on your land.
	It didn't go there on your invite.
	And he's not bringing any Nordic chicks.
	You know, buxom Nordic chicks are not coming.
	I got these ugly ET things with eyes.
	You know, that deserves a shotgun blast.
	So they're not acting, and so you can knock.
	You know, that's one of the...
	Did Valet ask?
	Why don't they just visit us and say, hey, let's have a barbecue together with George W. Bush?
	Knock!
	Okay?
	Okay.
	We're not like little bugs, cockroaches, that we can't communicate with us.
	It's clear that we've got television and we have abstract thought.
	That's one of the downsides of the movie, which is an excellent movie otherwise, very scary, and prophecies.
	In the Mothman prophecies, they have the interview with John Keel.
	They call him Leak.
	But he says, well, why should they talk to us?
	We're just like being on a skyscraper talking to cockroaches.
	That's a weak part of the movie.
	It's clear that we have abstract thought.
	And you can knock.
	Some politeness.
	Are you saying that once you get to be in advanced society, you know, going with the E.T. thing, you don't have to knock anymore.
	Well, then that means, you know, decency went out the window at some point.
	Okay, so now we've got another good question.
	The Monsieur effect.
	Is this pretty...
	Go ahead.
	It's not Nazi research.
	Yeah, he's asking about the Missouwer effect, this current 33, with superconductors.
	Yeah, you've got a Nazi culture and society that's got unlimited funds, mad scientists that have no moral restraint.
	So, the way to find out for sure would be to reconduct our own experiments.
	Hey, scientists, you'd like that, right?
	Conduct our own experiments.
	And see if we can get a propulsion from superconducting.
	I mean, we know that we can have repulsion and superconducting coils with high-speed trains, but that's a rail.
	You know, you've got to lay that breadcrumb, you know, out there.
	So, good question.
	You're asking the right question, and with these questions, we would call them EEIs, Essential Elements of Information.
	We would have a list of EEIs, and then we'd say, Bonds, go out there and find out the answers to these EEIs.
	And believe me, I have a bunch.
	I don't try to put them all out on the Internet, but I'm getting frustrated.
	I don't have a budget like James Bond has to go doubt these realities and confront them.
	So I'll let some out there, which I've done a little bit tonight.
	Time is running out.
	You think you know what I'm talking about on some of these witnesses.
	Just ask them flat out.
	And I think that he doesn't have to be clued in under the sequence program.
	I think somebody who's been very frustrated that the X-15 was held back and the X-20 was held back, he'll just say from his perspective we could have went into space, just to my conclusion, we could have went into space before Mercury even blasted off.
	So it doesn't have to be too...
	You know, revelational, but you'd be surprised.
	You know, this Edgar Mitchell guy last week said that the ETs were not cuddly friendly.
	He, I guess, having a moment of crisis or conscience, or he was told to change a story, but he told the reporter from England that they were nice guys.
	The ETs are up there, were nice guys.
	And then last week he just, you know, Went back on a story.
	I would love to...
	That's very interesting.
	I'll have to investigate that further.
	Mike, there's another question here.
	I'm wondering...
	Can you get him on the show?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It looks like they did...
	You could do it.
	Thank you.
	I'll try.
	Look, there's...
	There's a person here who said, does Mike know on August 28th at 40 degrees above zero?
	What was that?
	That's part of a question or what are we missing?
	Does that make any sense?
	40 degrees Celsius?
	It just says, does Mike know that on August 28th at 40 degrees above zero?
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah, but you might be talking about the CERN experiments, which are very out there in the Alps.
	These guys are trying to destroy matter or make a black hole.
	It's like, dude, if you six blowing us all up, you know, why are these Illuminati guys doing this stuff?
	You know what I mean?
	They're like mad scientists.
	I did it!
	I blew up the world!
	That's what I think he might be talking about, trying to find absolute zero and get past it.
	Alright, okay.
	Good grief.
	Okay.
	It's scary stuff.
	Yeah, and someone wants to know what you think about Kundalini.
	Yeah, the Kundalini, as you know, is in your chakra system, and at the base of your Kundalini, if it should slip...
	They say that's the cause of spontaneous combustion.
	Okay.
	It's also the...
	Watch out without yoga, girls!
	Yeah, well, it's also what will lift you into nirvana and samadhi and possibly enlightenment.
	So, okay, we've got about the creation of superconductors at room temperature.
	This is kind of a partial question.
	Yeah.
	Anything there in that?
	Does that make any sense?
	Something has to be happening within the spaceship.
	The anti-gravity craft, you know, one of the arguments against them is the extreme G-force.
	Okay, write full sentences.
	Whoever's writing these questions, please.
	Okay, we're probably going to have to shut this down.
	One or two more questions if you'd like.
	Other than that, again, Mike, are you writing another book?
	Where are you headed now?
	Oh, right.
	Now, what I've done is written a book on why the hive, you know, is built and why the sheeple like being the hive.
	I could write a sequel to James Bond is real using this because it excites me.
	So, you know, I have another outline where I just take the idea that we shouldn't have shut the OSS down in the first place.
	So that's a spy-centric theme.
	Or it could also be both, actually.
	The first half of the book, we shouldn't have shut the OSS down.
	And the second half of the book, we shouldn't have shut NACA down.
	We should have kept the military involved in space.
	I tend to kind of lean towards that angle, which is to explain, hopefully predict, what the next move is going to be by the Illuminati.
	But what I would do at the end of this show is hope somebody can make that move Aerospace plane, the simple aerospace plane, the NF steroids, and get us into space routinely and outflank the Illuminati.
	It's, you know, the best thing is proof in the pudding.
	You've got a bunch of people in space reporting back from perseverance, eyewitness, what they're seeing.
	That is, you know, they can't stop that if we help them.
	Okay, well, actually...
	We also need people confronting reality here on the Earth, too.
	I gave you an example earlier about the, you know, C, you know, Bermuda Triangle, stuff like that.
	We've got to confront these phenomena and artifacts.
	We're not doing it.
	So, basically, you're saying we need some people with the right stuff.
	Is that right?
	We need people with the right stuff.
	James Bond with the right stuff.
	Like Barry Cassidy.
	You have the right stuff.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Thank you.
	We're not here from anybody else, but I told you today, you got it.
	Thank you, Mike.
	I really appreciate that.
	You've got the right stuff too.
	Thank you so much for coming on the show.
	Thank you everyone for listening.
	We'll do this again soon.
	Mike, keep us posted.
	Send me the links to your latest books.
	I want to make sure they get out there.
	You're always doing some fascinating work and it's great to hear from you.
	Sorry for any technical errors that we had.
	This will go onto my YouTube channel.
	It'll get a large audience there.
	And thank you again, and good night, everyone.
	Any last words, Mike?
	Very good.
	Yeah, I wrote the Reich stuff, like the Third Reich.
	The Reich stuff.
	Very clever.
	That's right.
	It is the Reich stuff.
	That's where we got...
	Wilhelm Reich.
	Sorry, Bill.
	We got it from the Germans.
	Gravity stuff.
	Okay, so Wilhelm...
	Who can say no to a girl in black leather?
	Okay, bye, Mark.
	Give me a flying saucer.
	Thank you.
	Good night.
	Talk to you later.

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