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Dec. 9, 2014 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: MIKE HARRIS: SYRIAN BRIEFING ON ET PRESENCE
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Thank you.
Hi, this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
We're here with Mike Harris, and we're going to just start from the ground running.
Mike, you just got back from Syria and Lebanon, and I'm not sure if you went anywhere else on the way.
So I just wanted to have you on the show here.
I did hear your show yesterday with Duff.
I think I got most of it.
Welcome to my show.
Welcome to my show.
I'm jet-lagged.
I'm tired.
I went to the gym this morning thinking that would help me bounce back, and it just drained me completely.
I had exactly the opposite of the intended effect.
But hey, at least I got back at it, went and gave a modest leg workout today, which is my advice to anybody out there is never skip legs day.
That's the most important day of the week if you're one who lifts and works out.
Oh, all right.
Good to know.
Now, I'm wondering, actually, your video looks great, and you look pretty good yourself, so I think you shouldn't be too worried.
I think you look like you're in good health.
Anyway, to get...
To the subject at hand.
So tell me about the saga.
I mean, first of all, what was the, I guess, agenda in your mind when you joined up with the team to go over there?
And what did you guys have in mind?
And do you feel that you accomplished your goals?
Well, the purpose was to attend a conference, and the conference was titled, The First Conference to Combat Terrorism and Religious Extremism.
And, you know, we've done a lot of research at VT to where we figured out that this phenomena around the planet that we call terrorism isn't so much terrorism as it is naked criminality.
And so we went there and we wanted to share the intelligence and the information that we've gathered collectively with people who are active in the field and can take this information back to their home countries and disseminate it for a global effort to really fight organized crime, which is what this is.
Okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
I'm not sure I would completely agree, but we can go down that road.
So just tell me about the saga because it sounded like if I got the gist, you guys went over via Lebanon first and then drove from Lebanon.
Is that correct?
We flew into Beirut and we drove from Beirut to Damascus.
There are no internet Air carriers that are going into Damascus right now because of the sanctions issue.
We could fly in on a Russian carrier via Moscow, but that would have made the trip even longer and more circuitous than it was.
The most efficient way to get there was through Beirut, Lebanon.
Okay.
And you guys, did some of the team get sick in Lebanon?
Is that right?
They got sick in Damascus.
The first one, Colonel Jim Hankey, Took ill.
He had some gastrointestinal problems, as is common when one travels.
And it knocked him down.
This is a big guy.
He's 6'4", 260 pounds.
He's a fine specimen of a man.
But this leveled him.
And then about 24, 30 hours after that, Duff went down.
And these guys were flat on their back for days.
Okay.
And, you know, I've traveled in the Middle East, went to Egypt a number of times, and also I've actually been to Jordan and Israel as well, although not Syria, which I think would be fantastic to do.
And I think that there are some interesting things going on in terms of the chemtrailing over there, just to, you know, It's not maybe something you thought of, but we noticed in Egypt that there seemed to be some link-up between a different solution that's being sprayed over the skies and therefore getting into the...
To the land and the water and ultimately the food because we got hit with something as well.
I think almost everyone in the entire trip, and we had about 15 people with us at that point, all got sick at some point during the trip and usually one right after the other.
Um, so, so I, I know this goes on.
Uh, I know that, uh, I just want to make a mention that when I travel and, uh, friends of mine as well, we all use, uh, colloidal silver and MMS to get rid of, uh, any, any viruses and stuff.
Um, and I don't know if you had any of those things with you, but, uh, I find that, you know, the only thing that will help.
We did not.
And subsequent to returning home, Jim Dean, who is the managing editor for Veterans Today, he's taken ill since arriving back home.
And he was at the doctor yesterday.
So three of the four of us on the Veterans Today team have taken ill.
I'm the last man standing so far.
And hopefully I'm going to dodge the bullet here.
I don't look forward to what they had.
Right.
All right.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
So it wasn't, I kind of got the feeling you were in Beirut when that happened.
Where was, okay, what was the situation in Beirut?
Because I did watch some of the short videos you had.
Were you, what was, can you describe the scene in Beirut?
Because I think a lot of people might be curious as to what's going on there on the streets, what it feels like politically, etc.
Well, we were in a Hezbollah-controlled section of town.
And, you know, the government of Lebanon has no authority within this area.
Hezbollah is the de facto government.
They have their own checkpoints, they have their own police, they have their own medical service.
They have become self-sufficient as a subset, as a faction within Lebanon.
It's their control, it's their territory.
We were staying at a private residence that we were sort of misled as to what it was and how it was.
We were told it was very nice and that it would be very accommodating.
We got there and there's no running water.
Shower doesn't work.
There's one working toilet.
There were mattresses on the floor.
You could count them.
There was like 11 mattresses on the floor.
And the whole thing came across what in Arizona we would call a drop house, where you would secure illegal aliens while you wait for transport.
And it turned out that that is exactly what we had stumbled into.
That is exactly what the environment we had been put into.
And what's happening is there are some NGOs over there that allegedly represent the interest of the Palestinian people to bring them humanitarian aid and other things, but they're not.
What they're doing is they're human trafficking.
They're taking young girls out of the Palestinian refugee camps, out of the Syrian refugee camps, and they're anywhere from 13 to 17, 18 years old.
If they're attractive, they are selected, recruited, and then sold off as sex slaves around the world to populate brothels everywhere.
And there's Americans who are involved in this.
There's others who are involved in this.
We've turned over as much information as we could to the Syrian security services.
And we're going to let them handle it because it's closer to their jurisdiction.
They are trafficking in their people, their citizens.
And we want to see justice brought to these people who would...
Do such heinous acts to people who are so oppressed right now and so down.
The one thing that really stuck with me was seeing the miles and miles and miles of refugee camps.
And they're living under these...
You know, you've been to Walmart.
You've seen those blue plastic tarps.
They're living in tents made out of this.
And the hygienic conditions are poor.
Everything about it is awful.
Not enough food, not enough water, not enough facilities of any kind.
And these predators are going in and selecting the young, attractive women and turning them into whores.
That's what it is.
They're making money doing this, and that is offensive to me.
Okay, now, well, I mean, I am curious because, first of all, you say you were in Beirut, right, where this was happening?
Yes.
Okay, and you guys got, I'm assuming, you know, the team that you're working with You were referred to to stay in this place.
So how is the place?
Obviously, they didn't say, you know, you're going to be staying in a place like that.
So what did they say to you?
I mean, how is it misrepresented?
Was that a contact who simply wanted to deceive you guys on purpose or was there a miscommunication?
Let me back up.
Let's back up a little bit.
Let's go back to the conference.
The conference had approximately 300 delegates.
About 50% of the people who are at the conference truly have an interest in combating terrorism, in combating religious extremism.
About another 25-30% are there for the free meal.
They can go to a conference, they can get a free meal, stay in a nice hotel, get a plane ticket, whatever, whatever, whatever.
Just hangers-on, parasites.
They're not going to contribute anything one way or the other.
There's another 20% of the people who are there who are actively trying to torpedo and sabotage what is going on at the conference because, like it or not, There is a class out there that makes money during wartime.
They make money off refugees.
They make money off human trafficking.
They make money off drug trafficking.
And these people were here trying to diminish the effect and the intention of the conference.
And what was really very important, I want all the listeners to be aware of this, is that what was so critical about having this in Damascus is because the Syrian government and the Syrian people are serious about ending terrorism.
They don't want this.
It's not a civil war.
These are foreign fighters who are coming into the country.
They call them jihadis.
These are not religious people.
I had meetings with probably a dozen very high-level Islamic clerics, including the Grand Mufti of Syria himself, one-on-one, he and I. And what they're doing is similar to what they did during the Inquisition.
And that is, they're looking at good clerics, good Muslims.
And these people are coming, these jihadis, coming out of the Wahhabi school, which is Saudi-sponsored, and saying, you're a heretic.
You're a blasphemer.
You're not religious enough.
Follow our way.
That's the only way.
If you don't follow us, we're going to kill you.
It's very similar to what happened during the Inquisition when you had to prove your devotion, had to prove your commitment.
And it's a very insidious technique.
It's very much a psychological warfare operation.
And it's, you know, meeting with the moderate clerics there who said, we're not the blasphemers.
It's them.
These guys are misreading the Koran.
This is an absolutely improper reading of all of our religious texts.
And they're using this to accomplish political goals.
And that's really what's going on.
And so that is...
The whole radical Islam thing is nothing but a smokescreen.
It is a veneer that's put over criminality that's going on.
Because right now, there's asset stripping that's going on within the country of Iraq, going on within the country of Syria, where they're stealing oil out of the ground, selling it for $20 a barrel.
They're stealing ancient artifacts, selling them through brokers in London.
They're human trafficking.
They're drug trafficking.
All of these things that are going on, people are making a lot of money on.
And so there's elements that want this to continue, and we're there to torpedo the efforts to bring peace to the region.
Okay, but to get back to my question, and I'd like to expand on what you're talking about here, but I just want to make sure that we get the question answered in terms of your contact, because I'm wondering how you got into a situation.
I'm not going to name names now, but that contact is one of the parties who is profiting off of human trafficking and drug trafficking.
And, you know, because he was an American, because he had other ties to our group.
We thought he was trustworthy, but he has been exposed, and his network is being exposed.
Like I said, we turned this over to the Syrian security forces.
I appreciate that, but what about Hezbollah?
Did you have any interaction with them?
Because there is an aspect which is very concerned with the Palestinian situation, presumably, and they've gotten very involved in that.
So did you have any sort of interaction with them?
Well, every member of our group was given a multi-hour interrogation by Hezbollah.
They had a team of three interrogators came in, they sat each of us down, they took photographs of us, they photographed our passports, and they asked us every question under the sun as if it was the FBI or some other advanced law enforcement agency looking for who we are,
why are we here, what are we doing, what is our purpose, They wanted to know everything there was to know about us in order to do even a deeper background check on us and what our true intentions were in the area.
Okay, so how long were you in Beirut?
We were there for three days.
Okay, why were you there for so long?
Was there business to do in Beirut or, you know, in other words, did it take that long to go?
To secure a car or whatever?
There's no business to do there in Beirut.
None whatsoever.
We had two guys who were sick and were incapable of travel.
Oh, okay.
So we were pinned down.
We had nowhere to go, nowhere to hide.
And really, we made an operational security blunder on that one.
And we should have been in a hotel and not trusted anyone in that environment.
We should have been down at the...
At the Four Seasons or the Grand Hyatt or something else.
But we allowed ourselves to get put into a compromised situation.
And the situation gets worse because our last day there we were scheduled to have a car pick us up at midnight and take us to the airport.
The quote, maid, came in that day to clean.
There was nothing to clean.
It was filthy, awful conditions.
But we found, after she had left, something in the back of my mind.
My intuition told me to say, you know, Mike, something's not right in this room.
Why don't you look around a little bit?
And so this guy had suits hanging on an open clothes rack.
So I said, you know, look in the suit pockets.
You always find interesting things in suit pockets.
You find a receipt.
You find a matchbook cover.
You find out where this guy's been, a pen from a hotel.
You can look in this.
The second suit that I looked in, I found a package.
And the package contained about a kilogram of pure heroin.
And I also found a quantity of hashish.
It is our belief that this was a place there by the maid around 4 o'clock.
I found that around 5.30 we were due to be picked up at midnight and it is my That's right.
My best guess that around 10, 10.30 at night, we were going to get a knock on the door from the police security services, and the entire Veterans Today team would have been taken off the board.
We'd still be in a Lebedee's prison someplace, and we wouldn't be getting out for the next 10, 15 years.
Okay, but now I'm trying to figure out where you were.
Did you not stay in Damascus?
Weren't you in Damascus at the time?
Had you driven back to Lebanon?
We had left Damascus and we were back in Lebanon.
There were issues.
The conference lasted two days.
We arrived there a day early.
Next morning, we had the conference.
The next day, we had the conference.
After the conference, it was over.
We stayed.
The conference ran November 30th, December 1st.
We were there the 2nd, and we departed Damascus on the 3rd.
So we were out.
And in Damascus, did you guys stay?
I mean, I hope so, but I don't know if you're going to tell me this.
Did you guys actually stay in a decent hotel?
In Damascus or not?
Well, we've stayed at a government-owned hotel called the Dama Rose.
And I thought it was a decent hotel, marble floors and nice fittings.
But you have to remember that Syria is on a wartime footing right now.
And as such, everything is scarce.
I've been to breakfast buffets before that are sumptuous feasts.
This one was virtually protein-free.
There was no meat at all.
You were lucky to get hard-boiled eggs.
They had a lot of vegetables, a lot of breads.
That type of stuff.
You know, carbohydrates, easy to provide foods, but meat in the whole country is very, very difficult to find and secure.
Okay, so again, I know we're going down these details, but actually it seems to fill in some of the gaps in terms of the story.
When you went back to Lebanon, Don't tell me you went back to the same place you had stayed on with the beds on the floor type of thing.
No, no, no, no.
Whenever we got into Lebanon, we were maybe in Lebanon for four hours on our entrance into Damascus.
We landed at the airport, we had cars pick us up, we went straight to Damascus.
Lebanon was merely a transit point on our way into the country.
It was on the way out of the country that we got stuck in that awful situation.
Okay.
Okay.
And that, uh, and the beds on the floor scene was, uh, was when you on the way out?
On the way out.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Yeah, see, Jim, Dean, and I, Duff, there was some tension going on with the Syrian security forces.
There was a little bit of tension.
There was a little bit of some issues.
There were some misunderstandings that were occurring.
A lot of people were telling a lot of lies around this thing.
It was really contentious.
And so Duff said, you know, Mike, you and Jim, Dean, you need to go now.
So Jim Dean and I left at about 1, 2 o'clock in the afternoon on, I think it was the 3rd.
And then Gordon and Jim Hanke showed up about 6, 8 hours later after we were already in Beirut.
They made their way after we did.
They had to get out of the country.
I see.
Now, in terms of the tension you're talking about, was this tension around...
Duff and the whole agency thing, or was this something completely unrelated?
There were people Who were not with the conference, who were representing themselves as if they were speaking with authority for the conference.
We encountered a couple of situations.
One of them was that someone set up a tour of the terrorism court that Syria has.
So we thought this was an official function.
A bus pulls up.
We're all told we have to go.
Let's get on it.
The entire American delegation gets on it.
It buses us down to the terrorism court.
We spend the morning down there where we're toured.
We understand their process.
We've got to introduce their procedures, you know, how they decide who gets tried for terrorism, who doesn't.
They've been under some criticism by Amnesty International because their conviction rate is so high.
But we understand now why it is, because they've got three levels to go through before they're even tried for terrorism, and at any level they can be let go and sent home.
So we understand that it is a much more fair process than what Amnesty International is representing.
But when we got back to the hotel for the conference, one of the organizers of the conference, Dr.
Barakat, was screaming, where have you guys been?
And, you know, you're missing this conference.
We flew you over here.
It's important you're here.
And we said, well, wait a minute.
You're the one who sent the bus for us to take us to the terrorism court.
What's going on?
I did not send a bus for you.
Who sent a bus for you?
So we identified a couple of parties who were there trying to get the American delegation off the board, trying to neutralize us, trying to keep us out of the conference.
So we weren't going to have the opportunities to speak and to share the intel that we have with the entire conference.
And so once the organizer got a hold of that, then he cleared the deck and we got to have the podium for the afternoon and got to tell him everything.
We gave him a complete intel data dump about everything that we know and about why This is organized crime that religious extremism is merely used as a mask in order to justify these criminal activities of assets dripping various countries.
Okay.
Now, I am very interested in this whole kind of scenario that has been painted, you know, in terms of almost, I'll say almost, making peace in some form or fashion with countries like Syria and Iran, a different...party line, it seems, that is focusing now on what we know of as ISIS or ISIL. And it goes by a third name as well.
It starts with a D, I believe.
Dash.
Okay.
And it's at any rate.
In other words, because there's information that they have infiltrated Libya and other countries.
And for example, that Benghazi...
Was part of this sort of scenario, the attack on Benghazi.
And that there's a whole political situation going on between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Certainly, Saudi Arabia has been aligned with our administrations and very close to the Bush administrations, for sure, up to this point.
So can you paint that picture as to what's really going on on a political, a bit wider spectrum?
Because Syria is wrapped into this, yes, but it's wider than that.
Well, Syria is a victim of this.
They're a victim.
Iraq is a victim of this.
Libya has been a victim of this.
Nigeria is a victim of this.
Ukraine is a victim of this.
This is all a global coordinated act of criminal enterprise here.
I don't care if you call it Al-Qaeda.
I don't care if you call it Daesh.
I don't care if you call it Boko Haram.
I don't care if you call it ISIS or ISIL. This is all the same criminal enterprise.
It is interrelated.
They're all funded, coordinated, and directed by the same group.
Okay, but that group is Saudi Arabia coupled with, from what I understand, the U.S.? Saudi Arabia, elements within the CIA, Mossad, Turkey, France, and Great Britain are the key participants in this clandestine terrorism outbreak that's going on around the world.
It is interesting to look at your group, with its backing, going over there.
In a non-diplomatic sort of way.
And yet at the same time, in other words, well, at least not as part of the government, you know.
So you guys were, I mean, I can imagine, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, I can imagine places like the State Department and other places feeling that you guys might have been trying to hone in on their territory a bit.
And just wondering, because we have actually...
Got more than one message going on out there right now, you know, from what is considered to be the United States, I guess.
But I appreciate the idea that there was a conference going on.
It almost seems like the idea of a conference was almost a setup for something else to be going on, which was more...
More substantial, more even supposedly diplomatic in nature.
In other words, within the CIA, there have to be factions fighting with each other pretty much outright.
And certain high-level players within the CIA who are trying to throw roadblocks in your way, while other members are trying to facilitate this exercise.
So...
And that doesn't also bring in some of the other services, which we're talking, you know, NSA, for one, and possibly others.
So, do you want to talk about any of that?
From a foreign perspective, everyone looks at the USA and they think that we are a monolith and that we all march in lockstep when the reality is that we are fragmented and fractured and have different agendas and different goals and different things.
The remarkable success that ISIS had in Iraq Capturing U.S. depot war materials, trucks, ammunition, guns, all of it.
The success that they had tells me that treasonous elements within the U.S. military and within the U.S. intelligence services pre-position those to be easily captured by ISIS in order to fund them.
Oh my goodness, look at this.
ISIS has captured our materials and they've stolen them.
They didn't steal them.
They were left there on purpose.
They were left there as a gift.
This is a resupply for ISIS while they're on the march in the field.
That's exactly what it was.
You look at the theft of that bank, I think it was in Mosul, where they put $500 million in there one day and two days later ISIS comes in and captures it.
These things don't happen by accident.
We have treasonous elements that are operating against the stated goals of our existing administration and against our State Department.
They're out there working against these goals, and it just illustrates the fact how thoroughly infiltrated we are as a country.
And how controlled we are by the Israelis and the dual U.S.-Israeli citizens.
They are everywhere.
They are in every aspect of government.
They're in every aspect of business.
They're in every aspect of banking, academia, name it.
We no longer have a functioning republic.
We are a vassal state to Israel, and it's time the American people woke up and figured it out.
And there are good Americans out there.
There's good people serving who want to oppose this.
But we, the people, have got to get our act together And purge these infiltrators.
You know, the Constitution's written very clear that we will defend against enemies foreign and domestic.
And we have visible domestic enemies who are operating against the people of the U.S. and against the policies of the elected government and against the interests of the American people.
Okay.
Fair enough, and I'm sure that's true.
So at this moment, I want to do a bit of a changing of the gears, because you were in a fabulous country for ancient archaeology, as it were.
And I'd like to talk about that.
And in a funny way, actually, we're going to come back to where we are now, because...
And the Camelot audience.
This is not, you know, CNN. This is an investigation that involves the levels that go beyond the surface of what you guys are involved in, as you can appreciate.
And so what we're really talking about is an ancient history that does go back to the Anunnaki, and that the Anunnaki are also very involved in Israel, and possibly in the backbone of this sort of split If you will, that's going on in the United States and behind the scenes.
And I don't know if you're connecting those dots.
I would think you're a smart guy.
You work in the same area as I do.
These things have to have crossed your mind.
So let's talk about the ancient archaeology for a moment.
Because you were there, you saw it in person.
And can you describe your sort of feelings of...
In terms of seeing these incredible structures that are clearly, I believe one is a spaceport.
It's widely known to be a spaceport.
Well, let's talk about that because we took a day, we had one day to go sightsee.
And we went up to Baalbek.
And I wanted to go there because I wanted to see those megaliths that are there.
This is the largest carved stone on the face of the planet.
It's big.
I don't know the dimensions, but the thing's got to be 100 feet long.
It's got to be 25 feet tall and 25 feet wide.
It's estimated to weigh 800 or 900 tons.
Mankind does not have a piece of equipment that can move that thing.
It just doesn't have it.
And while we were there, I learned that the one that you see, there's two more beneath it that are stacked up, three high.
And so I don't know how or what anything could do to stack it.
It's called the Old Roman Quarry, but it predates Rome by a long time.
The site is estimated to be over 100,000 years old.
They found other artifacts around the area and in northern Syria where they found 100,000-year-old human skeletons that were buried whenever we were supposed to be living in caves and eating raw meat when we catch rabbits.
But these things exist.
They're there.
And it's fascinating.
So we spent some time there.
I took A hundred photographs of this thing from every angle I could.
I was up on it.
I was down underneath it.
I'm looking up, looking sideways.
They're all on Duff's camera.
I don't have the camera.
I don't own a camera.
So Duff's got all these photographs.
I'm waiting for him to send them and publish them.
But just the size of this megalith alone Caterpillar makes nothing that can move this.
I'm sorry.
I used to own a Caterpillar D8 bulldozer.
It ain't gonna budge this thing.
And yet, here they are, you can see it with your own eyes, stacked three high.
Fascinating.
And it's, you know, the dirt has filled in around them so that you only see like one in a portion of it.
But they've got the The ground-penetrating radar profile, and they are three deep, three, three of these 25-foot-tall stones before you get to the bottom one, which I think is just something other than...
Our known history and our known technology of this day, everything that we know, something's not true about it, something about the story, about our current mythos, because there's no way humankind has to this date developed a tool that could stack those things through high.
Absolutely.
Well, at this moment, I'm going to try to go over while we're talking here.
Let me finish up, because there's more to talk about here.
We also went to see the ancient Roman city of Heliopolis.
Which is in Balbeck.
It's about four or five miles from where the quarry is.
And it's stunning.
Some of the best preserved Roman temples on the planet.
They're absolutely stunning.
You feel very small and humble.
When you're there, because they're just, you know, it's the things that you see in Hercules movies.
I mean, it's just so cool.
And we're there talking to the tour guide, and he took us around to another section.
And he said, well, do you see this portion here?
I said, yeah.
He goes, this is what we've excavated.
This is from the Temple of Baal that the Romans built their temple on top of.
And they've got this whole other temple structure that is beneath where the Romans built their temple structure.
Well, that was extremely fascinating, you know, the B-A-A-L spelling of Baal, which is alleged, it's been referred to biblically as an evil entity of this or that, the other, you know.
I don't know the reality behind it.
All I know is the limited knowledge that has trickled down to our generation here about it.
But beneath that, It's the foundation.
And I said, well, what do you mean the foundation?
Isn't this built on bedrock?
He goes, oh no, it's not built on bedrock.
And we walked around this other path and they've excavated deeper.
And the same size rocks we saw at the Roman quarry It's what comprises the foundation for the Temple of Baal, which then he told me, he goes, there's many who believe this is the spaceport where the Anunnaki landed, and that's why they built the Temple of Baal here after the Anunnaki left.
So there you go.
And it's there, and it's real, and they have I'm going to guess a 30-35 acre piece of foundation that is flat, that is level, that is comprised of these enormous megalith stones identical to the ones that we've seen in the quarry.
That's what's under the Roman temple.
That's what's under the Temple of Baal.
It's all there.
It's complete.
It's homogenous.
It's as level as a football field.
They did a great job The joints between these things, they fit together like they were precision lined.
I mean, I don't know a bricklayer who could lay regular bricks any better than this, much less these blocks that are 100 feet long and 25 feet on a side.
Fascinating.
Absolutely.
Great, great stuff.
Well, okay, so at this moment, you know, though, let me find out, though, if you have made this link up in terms of the Anunnaki at all.
In other words, I don't know how much investigations you've done along those lines.
I've done quite a bit.
You know, because the story, obviously the Sitchin story, you know, takes place in the Middle East there.
Also, evidence in South Africa, if you talk to Michael Tellinger and go down that road as well, Zimbabwe ruins, so on.
But, you know, that's what we seem, I would say, to be dealing with.
Now, did you happen to, you know, you're talking to a lot of people, did you have anybody coming up to you talking about any of this?
Over there, no.
Not at all.
The tour guide was extremely knowledgeable, and he was well-versed in these things.
And he's the guy.
And we didn't find him.
We found him at the Roman Quarry.
And he said, all right, 30 bucks, I'll give you the tour.
And he gave us the tour.
He's the one who said that, yeah, there are those who believe that the foundation stones were really built here as the spaceport.
For the Anunnaki themselves, so they could come and go and take off.
But, you know, Kerry, one of our early conversations that you and I met years ago, it's been years now since we met, one of my theories at the time was, is that if the Anunnaki left, why would they leave this place uninhabited?
Wouldn't you leave behind at least a skeleton garrison to kind of look after your investment, to look after your property, to look after all these things?
And if that's something that you and I discussed, something that I would do if this was my piece of property, I'm not going to leave it abandoned.
I'm going to leave someone here to caretake it while I'm gone.
Do I expect them to function fully?
No, but I expect them to keep the vandals away from things and the riffraff out and to make sure that the pipes don't freeze in the winter, that type of stuff.
And so I suspect that we've had an Anunnaki presence with us for a very long time.
Just at a very, very low-key, low-level, that they're not making any waves, not making any functions, something along those lines.
That's just my personal theory on that.
Sure.
Well, the only part I have to take issue with is not making any waves.
Indications are that they're orchestrating things behind the scenes, at least in Israel.
And having some far-reaching effects in that regard.
Recently I did a third interview with Captain Mark Richards.
He said something that I've had an intuition about for quite some time and so I found it very interesting.
He claims that there is a war going on between those that run the Vatican In the underground base under the Vatican, basically the reptilians, that particular group, and the Anunnaki in Israel.
And that there is a war between those two factions here on Earth.
And that we, humans, are playing out that war for them.
We are fighting their war.
And that is what they are working very diligently to escalate at this time.
So that was his statement in that regard.
And he says that this is...
Coming to the fore now, actually.
So the whole ISIL thing kind of may be factoring into this.
You know that there's a strong religious fundamentalist contingency in the Christian side that wants to have what they term Armageddon.
Our witness Leo Zagami said that they were certainly working hard to accomplish that, but it appears that their timeline had been pushed back substantially over the last A few years and they're not really, haven't been able to accomplish it to the degree they would like to.
So I'm just throwing these things out for a wider perspective in terms of understanding why at this time, this thing we call ISIL, this sort of, you know, that is an extension, you could say, of Al-Qaeda and the whole nine yards.
We know that 9-11 was an inside job.
We know that Bin Laden was an agent of ours.
We know that Saddam Hussein was an agent of ours.
So the extension here is a build-up.
And now we have what is, in essence, what is being called the Islamic State of ISIL or ISIS or whatever you want to call them.
It is interesting because if you go back to the times of the film Lawrence of Arabia, then you see that at a certain point in time there was a stateless quality to the nations that comprise what we think of as the Middle East and possibly parts of Africa as well.
In other words, lines that we call state lines, like, you know, that determine Syria and Iraq.
The Arabs have always been a Bedouin people.
They've always been nomadic.
They've always wandered.
They have more affiliation toward tribe than toward country.
And you have to look at the geographic constraints that were placed upon them by the British.
That's a Western creation imposed upon a nomadic people.
And so are there some incongruencies there?
Yes, there are.
But going back to Syria, I met with four tribal chiefs, what we would call sheikhs or prince or whatever.
And the one thing that I came Everyone in Syria, everyone, from 15-year-old kids to 90-year-old men, they said, please, don't let your country do to us what they did to Iraq.
We don't want war.
How do we get along with you?
Just let us know what you want.
We'll work with you any way we can.
Sure.
And so it's really heartbreaking because you see The sincerity in their face.
And you see how terrorized, how fearful, how much anxiety is there for these people that are afraid that they're going to be destroyed the way the U.S. destroyed Iraq with a poorly thought out foreign policy based on lies of weapons of mass destruction and other nonsense.
And it's just a tragedy.
Absolutely.
Is there anything else that came to the fore?
I mean, obviously, it seems to me, with the contingent that you were part of, it seems like a no-brainer that, if not whistleblowers, then, let's say, clandestine operators of all types would have been motivated to approach you guys with various agendas.
We were approached by a variety of intel agencies.
Agencies, if you will.
Of the 300 delegates there, I'm going to guess that at least 10-12% of them were intelligence operatives.
Duff gave a briefing over there that I was privileged to some very select military leaders from Syria about how the U.S. has treaties with 17 known alien species, alien races.
That a number of them are very human-like in their appearance, how they look, how they act.
Others are very different from us.
He identified three as being overtly hostile, that look at mankind as nothing more than an appetizer.
They want to eat us.
Very, very hostile intentions towards us.
He gave a very in-depth briefing.
It's very classified material.
That's about as much as I can say, but it's there.
Let's just ask how the Syrian people that were there reacted to that information.
There were two high-level guys, both military, and they took it in, very stone-faced, didn't show any emotion, nodded yes a lot, and they didn't ask very many questions at all.
They just took it in, I will guarantee you.
That within a half an hour, there was a full report on everything Duff said on President Bashar al-Assad's desk within minutes afterwards, because this was that kind of briefing.
Okay.
Just out of curiosity, because I imagine that these people, I don't know if those particular people, but certainly they pay attention to veterans today.
So they read the paper.
They see the articles that are being published by Preston James and others on a regular basis, certainly disclosing some of this information in the paper.
And then, of course, they may listen to your radio show and others.
So...
One would assume that even on that level, not to mention their own sort of interaction, I'm not sure, I mean, there's a sort of corollary to this as to how close they are to some of the other people in, say, Iran, because we know that certain countries are having interaction with groups of ETs that may not be friendly towards the U.S., for example.
And that's another playing field that one could discuss.
So, you know, what I'm saying here is that some of this news can't have been new to them.
Do you think, without being able to disclose exactly the nature of the things that Duff was saying, was he adding to some of the things that are publicly known on Veterans Today, for example?
This was information that was new to me.
As you know, I keep very up-to-date on the Things Veterans Today as being one of the editors.
I keep very up-to-date, but this was what I would call a state-level briefing on the ET issue from the U.S. domestic state to the Syrian state.
This was very serious.
This was what I would call a high-level briefing.
Alright, what is the relation between Iran and Syria at this time?
Do you know?
There are issues that they can cooperate on, but Syria wants to retain its sovereignty and can retain its freedom of movement, association, etc.
And Iran wants to expand their sphere of influence into Syria.
They have a great many things that they need to cooperate on, and one of them is dealing with the USA and dealing with Israel.
That's something that they must cooperate on.
But there's other things that they're a little contentious about.
There's border issues, there's trade issues, there's who's influencing who and whose country, that type of thing.
Whereas the Syrians, you know, hey, we're self-directed, we're Syria, we're going to run our own show.
And the Iranians say, well, not so fast.
We can lend you some money if you can do this or compromise on that.
It's the issue of statecraft, and it's going on between them.
Both countries recognize the threat that is the U.S.-Israeli axis right now.
That is truly probably the greatest threat to world peace on the planet today.
And the theories that I heard while there was that if Syria falls, then Iran's going to fall.
And once Iran falls, then Russia's going to fall.
Then once Russia falls, China's going to fall.
And you mentioned earlier there are certain races that are dealing with other governments that are hostile to the US. China is tied up with one of those races that has some hostility towards the US and our activities around the world.
It was really useful.
While I was there, I gave probably 25 television interviews.
I spent days, all day long, articulating positions, answering questions about the U.S. relationship.
What our political structure is, why we're behaving in such an irrational manner.
If we're a democratic nation, freely elected people, why do we put such warmongers in power?
All of those type of things.
I had to explain that our country has been hijacked.
That we are no longer a republic that is a form of democracy here.
That we have become an oligarchy where those with the money call the shots, call the rule that the American people have lost their voice.
The democratic process means nothing.
And that we are well on our way to becoming a slave state and a vassal state to Israel.
I spent a lot of time explaining that on Syrian TV and RT and press and other ones around the world there at this conference.
I worked hard when I was there.
I really did.
Okay.
Well, it is interesting.
What is the relationship between Russia and Syria?
Were you able to tap into some of that while you were there?
Well, there was a high-level Russian delegation there that had some very good points.
You have to remember historically, back during the Cold War, that Syria was a client state of Russia.
That relationship has not gone away, and the Syrians are hoping to leverage that relationship further in the event that the U.S. decides to get stupid and do to Syria what we did to Iraq.
Okay.
Now, we know, or at least I know, that we're in Afghanistan for reasons that have nothing to do with Iraq.
Poppies or even oil or gas that has to do with a certain...
And I forget what the mineral is called, but it's a certain...
Rare earths, let's just call it that.
There are rare earths that are there that Afghanistan has the highest concentrations in the world of these rare earths.
And we want to keep them.
Exactly.
Well, and now along those lines, did you get any indication that there's anything like that going on in Syria?
And then I have a follow-up question.
Well, Syria, you have to realize, is...
Very big, very wealthy country.
And one of the things I want to point out to the listeners, I'm not aware of anything that Syria has that has the strategic value that the rare earths that Afghanistan has.
I'm not aware of it.
They do have a lot of oil.
They have a lot of gas.
They've got just a lot of natural resources.
It's a very fertile ground for crops, farming and all that.
It's really a prize.
It's a nice country.
It's something you would like to own.
It's my theory, and you can disagree on this one, but it's my theory that the reason the West is being so aggressive is because our financial system is on the verge of collapse, and we have to go steal the resources, steal the assets of other countries in order to prop up our own failing financial system because the smart financial guys overplayed their hand, they made some bad bets, and now their house of cards is crashing.
Okay, well, let's widen that a bit, you know, because we're kind of skirting the elephant in the room, in my opinion, which is Rothschild, who owns all the banks, except for, I'm told, something like three.
And those are very small banks.
You know, the bottom line is that the British, you know, this is where you get into this whole Illuminati sort of side of things.
And Rothschild...
The Illuminati are extremely involved in all of this.
And if the financial system of the U.S. is being taken down, it's being taken down, I believe, because of an inter-factional war within the Illuminati that just says, we both want new world order.
It just depends who's going to run it.
And one of the cards in that deck is taking down the US financial system to facilitate a one world government where, in essence, Rothschild and that contingent is in charge.
And my understanding is also that Israel is more or less a company co-owned by the US and Britain that was set up for those purposes.
And the Israelis almost have nothing to do with it, other than a bloodline link up with what appears to be the Anunnaki.
But in terms of this playing field that we're dealing with and all of that, are you aware, for example, you went to these ancient sites, the Stargates?
Has anyone ever talked to you about the Stargates within Syria?
They have not.
But then again, while in Syria, we were pretty much sequestered in the hotel and were only taken out in an official capacity to see selected things.
We went to Old Town Damascus, we went to a big mosque.
We went to what was a hotel for camel caravans.
They bring the camels and the goods in.
But we tried to leave.
We tried to go see other sites.
There was probably a dozen of them we wanted to go see.
We wanted to go up to Aleppo.
And we were not allowed to travel around.
And the excuse that was given was because of the security risk.
And we think that's a bunch of bunk.
But they kept us locked up in the hotel.
We were very tightly controlled.
Okay, well, I have also been told by Mark Richards that there are mountains that have shifting stargates that are in between Iraq and I'm not sure whether it shares the border with Syria or not, or Iran.
I don't have my geography very clear in that area.
But I can say that he says that there are troops, American troops, that are also in Syria, by the way.
And I'm wondering if you came across any of those.
We do not see any American troops.
We saw many, many, many Syrian troops.
They've had to go to conscription to where they have young men as young as 17 who are carrying AK-47s.
We saw checkpoints every mile, every quarter mile, so that if there is any issue, any disruption, any disturbance, they can be responded to instantly.
But they are on top of their game.
They are truly on a wartime footing.
You won't find excess protein anywhere in the country.
Their money has been devalued, so everything is a super bargain right now if you wanted to buy anything over there.
But no, we didn't see any signs of American troops there.
Okay.
But we did see the mountains you're talking about, and we were right at one point, we were very near the Syria-Iraq border.
In fact, I took a photograph of a road sign that said, Homs, 172 kilometers, Iraq, 184 kilometers, or something along those lines.
I have to go pull it up.
Okay.
All right.
Well, fair enough.
So, in terms of Iraq and Syria, The regime that's in Iraq right now has been, in theory, put in place by the U.S. And I'm not sure if this is simply...
It would seem to be a puppet regime for all intents and purposes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay.
But how are the relations within that structure, so to speak?
What are the relations between Syria and The Kurds, for example, and Iraq.
Can you describe that?
Well, the theory, what I heard discussed was the fact that Turkey had better be careful of the game that they're playing because they may end up with an independent Kurdistan.
And Turkey has embraced ISIS. See, what you need to understand is when the oil that's being stolen from Iraq and from Syria leaves the country, it's probably going through Turkey.
It's probably being transported by a truck and or it's being transported by a container vessel, a VLCC, a very large crew carrier.
You have to realize that anybody who is assisting ISIS in raising money by transporting stolen oil is complicit in aiding and abetting an act of terrorism.
We have precedent for this in the drug war, that if you're aiding a crime, you should have your assets seized, and you should be liable for civil and criminal penalties.
So anyone who does this, let's say it's Zim shipping, which is a Rothschild asset, If these are their container ships that are transporting Iraqi stolen oil or Syrian stolen oil, those ships should be seized by the Syrian government or by the Iraqi government and liquidated.
The proceeds should go back to the country from which the oil was stolen.
The same with banking transactions.
When the oil gets into port, somebody's writing them a check for it.
Somebody's doing a wire transfer.
Whatever bank is doing that, transferring this money to the ISIS that's funding them, buying them guns, ammunition, war materials, paying their soldiers, that bank is also committing an act of terrorism.
This is organized crime.
This is how infiltrated organized crime has become in the global commerce everywhere you turn.
Because it wouldn't be possible for ISIS to continue if they weren't getting material support from what appears to be legitimate legal institutions like banks and shipping companies.
Even small things like the artifact dealer in London who's selling a stolen artifact from Syria, selling it in London.
He should be prosecuted for a war crime because He's funding ISIS. The money that he gets for selling that artifact is supporting a terrorist, and he should have to pay the penalty as if he's committing an act of terrorism himself.
I had this discussion with the Minister of Justice of Syria himself.
I tried to outline for him a legal strategy, how to proceed, to bring these Parties that enable the financing of terrorism, to provide the material support to bring them to justice.
Because if you cut off the money, the terrorism is going to stop in 30 days or less.
Right.
Okay, well, let's talk about Turkey then, because we're talking about a state without a state.
In other words, ISIS, as it's been described.
So they must have bases of operation.
Which are infiltrating into these areas, these countries, and you're specifically saying Turkey.
Now, I know from some discussions with someone who I'm not going to name at this moment, but was an agent in the Middle East for a number of years, who did make some allusions to Turkey and some problems there.
So what is the philosophy of the regime behind Turkey at this time?
Because This is an interesting trajectory where Turkey is actually going sort of off the reservation, if you will, or at least on some level choosing to support what is in essence the Islamic State, when in fact the nature of the composition of the people and their backgrounds and so on would seem to be opposite that.
Well, I'm glad you asked that question because that's the elephant in the room.
And it appears that Turkey is trying to reconstitute the old Ottoman Empire.
And that is why Turkey is clandestinely supporting ISIS-ISIL, because Turkey wishes to regain its former splendor and glory and all those things that go with it, and put themselves on the world stage as one of the premier superpowers.
And that's what Turkey's going for on this.
And having talked with some very, very, very smart people there, They believe that this is going to bite Turkey right in the butt and it's going to hurt them.
They may end up losing their Kurdish population and that the Kurds may finally gain their own country of Kurdistan, split out of northern Iraq and out of Turkey, in order to create their own homeland.
That's the downside for them.
But right now, Turkey is going for the gusto and trying to reconstitute the Ottoman Empire.
It's that simple.
Okay.
What is the relationship, do you know, were you able to discuss this, between Syria and Turkey?
It is contentious and mistrustful.
The Syrians do not trust the Turks.
They see what's going on.
They have no desire to become part of Turkey's future plans.
They want to maintain themselves as a sovereign nation.
They like being Syrian.
And one of my messages to the Syrian people was, no matter how bad things get, stay strong, stay united.
As a united people, you cannot be defeated.
And you'll keep that message in heart.
And my advice to President Bashir al-Assad was for him to be aggressively cautious Be aggressively cautious.
Be very careful who you trust, but do not be timid.
That's about as much as I could say to that effect for him.
I admire the man.
I think he's done a brilliant job.
You have to remember He's an ophthalmologist.
That's what he studied in school.
He never planned on being president of his country.
The Israelis murdered his brother.
His father died under mysterious circumstances, which I also suspect Israeli involvement in.
And he's not been a pushover.
They thought they were going to put him in line, that he's going to fall in a year or two.
But he's done some really good statescraft and has done a good job keeping his country above water and consolidating his power, consolidating his position.
And he's doing the best he can for the people of Syria.
Okay, well, within that, and I assume that you guys did not have a chance to meet him, but what I wonder is, did you talk to the Syrians about the nature of the freedoms that they had?
Have in their country?
Are they happy with this?
Oh, they adore this guy.
They love Assad.
It's a very free country.
I didn't feel any restrictions at all.
The only restriction I felt was being sequestered in the hotel so that we couldn't go see stuff because of security reasons.
But people speak their mind.
They don't have the fear that we have in the USA of saying something that's going to get you in trouble later.
They don't have that.
It's very free.
I enjoyed the country.
I enjoyed the people.
Okay, and what about the quality of surveillance going on in that society?
Is it as wired as the rest of the world?
Oh, heavens no.
Heavens no.
Right.
No, not even close.
Right.
Okay.
I mean, we're so examined here and stuff.
We live under the microscope.
They're living relatively unobserved.
I mean, it's kind of funny that we, the land of the free, have become the land of the surveilled.
Right.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to try to see if there's any questions and I'm going to ask the people that are listening here live I'll be checking the questions while you do that.
Very good.
Very good.
Be right back.
Okay.
So at this moment, again, if you're listening live, if you could put your questions into the chat, I will, I will see if I can get, take a look here and see what, what, what questions you may have.
Thank you.
Okay, I see one question here in CAPS. Okay, a few questions.
Thank you.
And any other questions?
Uh, we are going to be wrapping up pretty soon here.
So, um, so, and now we're going to take, I'm going to take a short break and just get some water.
So, uh, so stand by.
Okay.
so so
all right back here Okay, great.
And we do have some questions here.
So like I said, we're going to take the questions, go through them as quickly as you'd like, and then there's just three or four here, and then we'll close this down.
And I want to thank you, Mike, because this has been great information, and I'm sure that people are finding this valuable.
It will go onto YouTube, obviously, and be viewable after we close this down, as livestream always is.
So just be aware of that.
And hold on one second here.
Okay, so we're back with Mike, and one of the questions that is in the chat is the length of the skeletons that you saw.
I didn't see the skeletons.
Okay.
You did mention the skeletons that have been found in the area of Baalbek, I believe?
No, I said the foundations that have been found.
Uh-huh.
Okay, I thought there was some mention of skeletons myself.
Perhaps you...
I'm sorry, but no, I did not see any skeleton, skeletal remains of any sort.
All right.
Did you...
Sorry, did you hear about them?
I did not.
I was just fascinated with the size of these big blocks.
I mean, holy mackerel.
I got up on the one that you see all the time in the pictures.
I climbed on this thing, and I mean to tell you what, this thing is ginormous.
How did they stack that thing three high?
Then how did they move them from where those were at To over where the Roman temples and Heliopolis were and to make that foundation.
I have no idea.
We just don't have the technology or the equipment to do that today.
Absolutely.
Okay, another question is what countries attended the conference?
Oh, there was from 37 different countries.
The Russians were there, the Poles were there, the French were there, the Brits were there, the U.S. delegation was there.
Iran, Iraq, just all kinds of...
What about China?
I didn't see any Chinese.
Okay.
Korea?
I didn't see them.
Korea?
I didn't see any Asians.
I didn't see Indians.
Yes, Indians were there.
Pakistanis were there.
But I did not see any Asians to speak of at all.
Okay.
Now, this seems like a no-brainer, but what about Saudis?
There were some who looked like Saudis, but I didn't associate with them or didn't interact with them in any way.
This is primarily on the breaks, but you saw them in the whole Saudi-style garb, if you will, the headdress, the robes, etc.
But I did have the chance, I did have lunch one-on-one with the Grand Mufti of Syria.
That's the equivalent of the Pope or the Dalai Lama or somebody.
He told me in no uncertain terms that this whole issue with extreme Islam is an attempt to discredit and destroy all of Islam.
Again, I will repeat this, this whole religious aspect of this terrorism is merely a smokescreen to hide the criminal activities of asset stripping these countries and stealing their resources.
Okay, as far as, let me see, some of these questions are a bit kind of more long-winded.
What response did you get when you told the conference about the U.S. oligarchy, is the question.
I got a lot of head nodding.
Yeah, we can see that now.
And we explained it to them how it works, and I explained it on television at least five times how this has happened to the country, how we passed McCain-Feingold.
See, prior to McCain-Feingold, if you were a congressman from Iowa or from Montana, you had to raise your money at home.
You had to raise it in your district, in your state.
And after McCain-Feingold, you could go to New York City and raise money.
And so you have people who are funding your campaign Who you don't represent.
And that was step one.
And then I explained that through Citizens United, as if McCain-Feingold wasn't enough, that Citizens United allows corporations to put unlimited amount of money into campaigns.
And so in the USA, where 96% of the time the candidate with the most money wins, That ensured that guys like Sheldon Adelson, who in this last election cycle spent a billion dollars to ensure that the Republicans had a majority in the Senate and in the House.
It shows that the oligarchs win.
The oligarchs control the political output.
Even though we go through the sham of an election and we have crooked voting machines and we do all this other nonsense, as long as Wealthy individuals can buy elections and buy elected officials.
The American people are screwed and we've got to stop it.
Okay.
What about the attendance of, for example, the Jordanians?
Did you have any interaction with them?
There were representatives, like I said, from 37 different countries.
This was a significant event.
To go through and name each and every country that was there, I'll have to wait until I get the attendee list back.
I don't have it yet.
They promised to send it to me.
And all their contact information so we can all correspond accordingly and coordinate these efforts to continue these conferences.
One of the uptake things is that the American delegation was asked to assist in organizing the next conference.
And so that's going to be a good thing.
With any luck, we're going to be able to winnow out some of the people who were trying to torpedo the conference and winnow out some of the people who were there for the free lunch.
Okay, just out of curiosity, is this an invitation-only conference, or can anyone go?
Yes, it's invitation-only.
Okay, and it's being sponsored by the Syrian government?
It was being sponsored by the Syrian Ministry of Justice.
Okay.
In terms of the security at the event, how is that handled, do you know?
There was security everywhere.
It was invisible.
You didn't see it.
It was a very quiet event.
We did notice an explosion Tuesday morning, 8.36 a.m.
There was an explosion of significant size that rocked all the windows in the hotels.
I mean, the china rattled.
But we don't know where it was, what happened.
It's just something that happened one time.
That was it.
But other than that, it was very safe, very secure.
There was no other issues.
The Syrians are wonderful people.
They're a gracious host.
Very, very kind.
They all thanked me.
Every Syrian who I encountered thanked me personally.
Thank you for coming to help us.
Thank you.
Please do anything you can do to help us.
It really is heart-wrenching, and it really makes you realize how frightened these people are for their futures, for their country.
I talked to one young woman there whose family was from Aleppo, and they were wealthy.
They had factories, the pharmaceutical space, and the factories were shelled.
They're destroyed.
And then ISIS came in and threw them out of their house and took possession of it.
And now they're homeless and poor and living day to day.
So in other words, ISIS is operational in Syria, but it's not sponsored by the government.
Is that the understanding?
The Syrian government is openly opposed to ISIS. ISIS is the enemy of the people.
Okay, but if these people were thrown out of their house, what did the Syrian government do about it?
Nothing yet.
They're trying to take it back.
There's a constant ebb and flow there.
ISIS is a presence in Syria, and there's areas you can't go to because ISIS's presence is there.
Okay.
One last question for me, and then I'll get back to these questions.
Sorry for this, but what about journalists?
Were journalists—was the press invited to this event?
Absolutely.
Like I said, I must have given 20, 25 interviews there, television, radio, newspapers, newspapers from around the world.
Television from around the world was there covering this thing.
Okay.
So there were journalists from around the world.
But you probably didn't hear a word of it on the U.S. News.
Nothing on CNN or Fox, huh?
Yeah.
Surprise, surprise.
Okay, but you had Russia Today there, is that correct?
Yes.
Yeah, RT was there and some others of note.
What about Al Jazeera?
I don't recall.
There were so many of them there, like I said.
It's just a lot of different press outlets, journalists were there.
All right.
Okay, now I'm getting a lot of questions.
What do you feel the outcome of the conference will be in terms of policy?
Well, if we're lucky, we're going to be able to establish a framework that will encourage the USA to re-evaluate their strategy on the sanctions.
If we're lucky, we will be able to get the State Department to take a look at it and say, you know, Maybe there's a better path.
Maybe there's a better way.
And so that's what we're hoping for as a next breakthrough, is to get the Department of State to look at it and say, maybe the sanctions aren't the right approach because the people are suffering.
Okay, along those lines, was there anyone from the Department of State at this event?
If there were, they were in an unofficial capacity and did not make themselves known.
Okay, but by invitation only event, who was invited?
In other words, were people major players?
John Kerry, you know...
Well, Rand Paul was invited.
There was another congressman who was invited that they declined to show up.
But they have reached out to people.
The reason veterans today got invited is because Jim Dean went back in September as an election observer.
And so that's how the VT team got invited because they looked at Jim and thought he was an okay guy.
We can do business with him.
We can talk with him.
And that's how we got invited.
That's where my invitation came from.
Okay.
I'm not sure.
Okay.
Well, somebody's asking a question that's a little bit unrelated specifically to this event, but it's a fair question.
How many in Congress...
One more question, then I probably have to go...
No problem.
Yeah.
I mean, it's great that people are interested and are asking questions, as you can appreciate.
So what's the question?
How many in Congress are CIA assets?
Of course, you can't know this, but you want to give an estimate.
In our Congress, how many are CIA assets?
I think the better question...
Well, first of all, I have no idea how many are CIA assets.
I would estimate quite a few.
But a better question would be how many are Israeli assets?
How many are Mossad assets?
I think that is a much, much better question because it's pretty obvious to me and it should be to anyone with a room temperature IQ or above that That Israel's calling the shots in this country.
We've become a vassal state of Israel.
We're their butt boy.
We do their dirty work for them.
We want to fight wars to accomplish their goals.
It's time for America to take its sovereignty back.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you so much, Mike.
This has been great, and I appreciate your coming on the show here to share I hope we can get more information as time goes on, possibly coming out of what transpired there,
and certainly would be very interested in It's all good.
Thank you again.
Great work on For all of the team members and that opening the doors to conversation taking place between countries and the peoples between countries is always a good thing.
So thank you for that and let's reconvene in another point.
Very good.
Carrie, thanks for inviting me and all the listeners out there.
Thank you all for your time.
I know it's time out of your busy schedules and thank you for listening and hearing me because this is an important issue and the more knowledge you have about it, the more you can affect the political process.
To keep the U.S. from doing something stupid again, like we did to Iraq and Afghanistan, because those have proven to be blunders of our country.
Let's not make the same mistake.
Let's learn.
Anyway, thank you all very much.
Okay.
Thank you.
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