PROJECT CAMELOT: H302 EZ WATER WITH JEF HARVEY & SECRET GUEST
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Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, and we are going to be recording an audio here with Jeff Harvey, as well as Dr.
Tu, a secret Black Project scientist using an assumed name and also his first name being Chuck, for the record.
And so, at the moment, we are going to give them short bios here that I'll read and then ask them to augment what I have to say here.
Okay.
Well, you say that you have more than 15 years' work experience as an employee of a Fortune 200-sized corporation, Dr.
Two, correct?
Yes.
That's correct.
And more than 35 years as an entrepreneur founder with three startup companies to your credit.
You took a startup company with 5 million initial investment to NASDAQ with a peak market cap of over 120 million.
You consulted two major Fortune 50 companies on technology and strategic planning.
You hold 24 US patents And at least 24 US patents in application stages, I guess, in addition.
You've licensed some of your patents to major corporations for high definition displays in 3D. You've done design work for Disney Corporation.
Built and invented a laser video projector in use by the US government and other entities.
Built a computer disk that is one million times faster than the ones in use today.
Worked on and helped design fighter cockpit displays and helped on displays for submarines.
You were the youngest recipient of a National Science Foundation grant when you received it.
You had to get permission to receive the grant because you were not of a legal age and had to be driven to and from the university and NSF site because you were not old enough to drive.
You started as a rocket scientist for major contractor to U.S. government at the age of 16 in theoretical mathematics, spaceflight mechanics, and propulsion systems while attending high school.
You were a manager for an aeronautics contractor by the age of 21, attended university and also high school at the age of 16 and were youngest in your class, graduated At the age of 17 from a private school.
And you were awarded a merit for technology for the Olympic Games.
And I'm not going to read all the who's who or listings that you have here.
Just to keep your identity somewhat secret at this point.
So that is our secret witness, the black project scientist, Dr.
Chuck Tu.
Then we also have Jeff Harvey on the line.
And Jeff is, one moment here, you spent six years in the United States Navy and you were inducted into a watcher group that infiltrated many of the Jesuit Knights of Malta-controlled military organizations.
You were assigned to the EC Division and Electronics Unit, worked in the Intelligence Center on a board, now decommissioned Today you are board certified in nutrition and specialized in homotoxicology for creating detoxification protocols using advanced nutriture,
homeopathics, and system-specific plant-based endocrine adaptogens delivered by traditional means as well as information field codes delivered through scalar and holographic methods.
Jeff provides the scalar systems used for coding holograms to various practitioners and companies entering the field of holographic information delivery.
Current research is currently employing H3O2 hydration catalyst for chronic diseases, state remediation, focuses on information field modulation of matter,
clinical research involving pattern, frequency, clinical research involving pattern, frequency, n-gram, modulation of the central nervous system, pain neuromatrix, and activating dormant areas of the brain-mind matrix.
Some...
Some verbiage that's rather difficult to read.
Okay, so at this moment, welcome both of you.
We are doing a re-record of our original interview that was recorded on live stream.
Because we had a ridiculous amount of echo on both your voices and we are going to try to salvage that original recording but we are doing a re-record here just to make sure that this information does get out to the public and that we can make it available as soon as possible.
So we are hopeful that this recording we are now using is going to be a good one.
All right, so at this moment, why don't we start with Dr.
2, and I ask if you would augment the description of your background, talk a little bit about how you got into the black projects, for example, and we'll go from there.
Well, as you had spoken about, I started at a very early age of...
Working for and with the government.
And the projects involved some theoretical mathematics and some space flight mechanics and propulsion systems and also some monitoring of foreign governments.
And that's what started me pretty much along the path that I started on.
And that's about what I can say about the Black Projects right now.
There's still people involved in them, and they're still active, and I am under non-disclosures with the government, so I really can't speak much more than that.
Okay.
And so, in terms of your background, Is there anything that the bio that I read is not covering that would pertain to what you've gotten involved in here with regard to the water H3O2? Just because of my background,
what I've studied in the math, physics and chemistry and geophysics and a few other things has helped me when I made this discovery.
This water was pretty baffling when we first did it.
I set out as a dutiful husband to try to make a water processor, a purifier for my wife.
My wife liked bottled water and I was not particularly on board with bottled water.
I just thought water was water and it was tap water.
We purchased a nice distiller, a very expensive one, and it was used in hospitals and it was also used in high-end car dealerships to provide water for people, but mostly in the hospitals for patients that have immunological problems.
And I thought that was the best distiller I could give at the time, and that would satisfy your need for having Good bottled water instead of buying water out of the convenience stores or out of the consumer grocery stores.
And I knew at the time that most of that tap water is just bottled water.
It's just bottled tap water.
And some of it goes through processing, some of it doesn't.
Some of it they will do a distillation process on it, and then they add chlorine or fluoride back into it, which kind of beats all the intent of drinking good bottled water in the first place.
And then there's the problem that the plastic that they bottle that in leaches the chemicals The chemicals are leached out into the water, so it doesn't do much good to get a very good water and then bottle it into plastic and have the plastic leach the chemicals back into the water so that you're drinking chemicals.
At least they've removed the BPA from a lot of it, but they still put a lot of chemicals back in to make it taste good.
Distilled water sometimes doesn't taste that well, that good, and RO water and distilled water are pretty low on oxygen, so they're not that good for you in the first place.
The other problem with bottled water is they might bottle it in a good facility that's temperature controlled, but the minute it leaves that building, There is no more control over how that water is shipped or what heat or sun it might be exposed to or any of the other environments.
And so what happens is you might have a plastic bottle that sits on the delivery truck and the delivery truck could be 120, 130 degrees internally with the sun beating on it.
And when that does, that breaks down that plastic and then leaches right back into the water again.
So a lot of the bottled water that you drink in the first place has the chemicals from the plastic in it.
So studies now to do this, I made a distillation unit that had no contact with the water whatsoever.
It used the process where the energy was transmitted into the water.
And when it was transmitted into the water, And to finish the processing process, we noticed that this water was a very strange water.
It was not reacting the same way as all the other waters were doing.
So we set out upon a request to try and find out exactly why this water was different.
Okay.
Thank you for that.
At the moment, though, just let's get back to the quality of various waters out there.
You were talking about distilled water and saying it doesn't have good quality, but I'm also of the understanding that you can also oxygenate that water after you've distilled it.
Am I wrong?
And put also, I guess, you know, what do they call minerals and things into it?
Yes, you can, but that's only really for taste because this thick minerals, if you were trying to get your calcium daily intake of the required amount that you need of calcium for water, you would have to drink, and it's been estimated over 200 glasses of water a day, and of course that would kill you in the first place.
If you want your daily calcium, just drink a good half glass of raw milk and you've got it.
The chemicals, and the problem with the chemicals that are in the bottle of water is you still have things like endotrims in them.
One of the problems with water today is almost all water, well let me state it, almost 99.9% of all water is contaminated.
For instance, all the retirement homes around the nation, a lot of those people, when the drugs are over the date of use, the nurses or whoever, the health workers, just take it and dump it right down the toilet.
Well, when it goes down the toilet, then it goes into the water system, And there are major cities now that are doing nothing but using reprocessed water for their drinking water.
It goes through and it does get purified.
It doesn't get distilled, but they go through a purification system.
But when that happens, it does not remove a lot of the chemicals.
It will remove a lot of the large particulates, but it does not remove the chemicals in the first place.
You're actually drinking some good old birth control pills.
You're drinking muscle relaxants.
All sorts of stuff.
And the process that most cities do to clean their water does not remove that.
Okay, what if you filter the water?
It doesn't remove it.
It does or it doesn't?
It does not.
Filter in the water will not remove those things.
In other words, those charcoal filter things don't reserve?
They do almost nothing.
No.
You are familiar with what they sell, you know, on alternative websites, you know, with those cylinders that you screw into the...
The whole filter system, are you saying it doesn't work?
I understood that it does.
By removal, a little bit of chlorine.
Okay, and you know this because of your background?
Is this like, because people are being deceived, they're spending a lot of money and effort trying to filter these things out of their water?
Sure they are.
And that's why when they did a test of the major tap water in most cities, I think they found 78 or 80 percent of molten through the city water, even when it came out of the tap and it had been run through filters, still had heavy doses of these dumped chemicals.
That's on the line.
That's been published by many, many reports.
How people have to do is go online and search that out.
They'll find that out.
Okay.
Well, you know, just for later, for reference, because I think there are plenty of people, including myself, that are trying to use water filters, distillers, etc., to make sure they have good water.
And I think it will be distressing to all of them to find out that, you know, if that is really true, that nothing is working, basically, is what you're saying.
Nothing is working.
Yeah, and that's part of the problem, though, is that if you have a large city, let's say you have a city of five million people or even more, and you want to remove these things, there's probably not enough money in the city to do it in the first place.
And in the second place, you can't shut off the entire water supply for an entire city.
I mean, you just can't do it.
All sorts of riots.
You have people killing other people for water.
You can live almost two weeks without food.
You can only go about two days without water.
Does that include every bottled water on the market?
I would say just about everyone.
I've done tests on them myself.
There's a few universities that have done this studies also, and it's a very, very large amount of the bottled water.
Okay, alright.
But the FDA doesn't require any testing on that.
All they require is that they make sure that there's less than 500 parts per million.
In fact, they don't even regulate bottled water.
You can put in bottled water, whatever you want.
There is no regulation for it.
and all you have to do is declare it to your sources.
Okay, what about if somebody has a, what do you call them, a well?
Depending on where it is on the planet, it would determine whether the water was any good in your...
You know, wells depend upon aquifers.
Aquifers depend upon the environment.
They depend upon what falls out of the sky and falls through it.
They depend upon how people farm from the land.
If they don't put any fertilizers or poisons on it to kill bugs or, you know, pesticides or anything else, you're probably okay.
Unless there's been a forest fire within a couple hundred miles of you, and then that settles into the ground, and then you get rain, and the rain soaks in the aquifer, and you drink it.
Okay.
But they're just contaminated as everything else.
I see.
All right.
Well, we'll...
And I guess if you have a volcano nearby, that complicates matters, right?
Extremely.
Extremely.
Or if you have any major plants nearby.
I mean, look at the Love Canal, right?
Those people were mostly on well water.
And you know what happened to those poor people.
Right.
You can't assume the well water is good water.
Okay.
Very interesting.
At this moment, I want to continue down this road with you, but I do want to give Jeff a chance to introduce himself a bit.
Jeff, is there anything you want to augment in terms of your background?
We are going to get your story on how this happened for you, but aside from that, before we get that, could you give yourself a bit of an introduction just so we can have you join in here?
Sure.
Most of my time was spent in the military working as an electronics audio and video technician.
That was my cover story.
So basically what I would do is I would go in and I'd do my work and I would keep an eye on flash traffic and other things that were going on in the ship.
And I would basically intervene when I was needed or when I saw a fit.
And when I got out of the military, first of all, we had been dosed by depleted uranium on board this ship because of a phalanx weapon system's malfunction.
And of course, I got dosed pretty heavily.
So when I got out, you know, the exposure took its toll over the years.
And over the years, I had spent time in process control computing in industry.
In the Adirondacks working in paper mills and working in chemical plants like Sibagagi and others.
And I worked on their electronic scrubbers and I didn't much in that regard.
After that, I got out of that particular industry because I realized that this was not what I was destined to do.
And so I spent some time working in sales arenas.
And telecommunications and I realized that that was something that was much less harmful and I really enjoyed it.
I had a good time doing it and I spent a lot of time doing telecommunications.
I worked with Ross Pearl's old company EDS after he sold that to I believe it was General Motors that picked that up.
So I spent several years doing that, and of course there was a genesis of that until about 2001.
Okay.
And after 2001, what happened?
Well, in 2001 the entire industry went to hell in a handbasket, as you know.
Most companies decided not to use An intermediary to do their telecommunications work.
And in those days, I was doing quite well.
I was knocking down about a quarter million a year, and I was doing fine.
Everything was well.
And then, you know, the whole industry just died.
Basically, all resale.
Slowed right down.
And I went and became ill.
Something happened.
I don't know what.
But I had gone to get my teeth worked on by an alternative dentist.
And I wanted my mercury fillings out.
And when I had them taken out, I think they let the dam slip.
And so I swallowed quite a large amount of mercury.
And I became extraordinarily ill.
And within three months, I was nearly dead.
Had about three months left to live.
And I got hold of a naturopath.
By the name of Gary Tunski, who saved my life with detox and chelation and nutrition therapies.
And that brought me back to a reasonable state.
But it took, oh, I'd say probably a year and a half to learn to walk again because I was bedridden.
And it took quite a while to get my voice back.
And that was, I had lost my voice for over 30 days.
Well, I got back to a reasonable state, but I realized that I needed to learn more to get better.
So I decided to train in the nutrition field so that I could become well enough so that I could actually practice and do something.
And that's when I became a practitioner and decided to do this as my main business.
So I got out there and I did that, and I spent several years being trained, became board-certified nutrition, I learned hemotoxicology, and that's what I've done ever since then.
And it's been up and down a few times during that period where it was very difficult to get all the way back, but I did a pretty good job, and today I'm really doing well.
But that's only because, you know, I went down the rabbit hole one more time And nearly died back in February.
Okay, and I want you to hold off there to tell that story until we get the next part going here with Chuck.
So Chuck, at this moment, could you describe that, you know, we've kind of created the background for water in general, and so you were motivated by your wife and her condition to Was it because you wanted to process water in a certain way to make it cleaner and more healthy?
What was the motivation there?
My motivation was this distiller that we had purchased broke down about 30 times over the course of three years.
And it was real annoying.
We had to call the service department that had come out and replace the typical elements.
Very much like what you have in your hot water heater.
And sometimes they would last three months, sometimes one of them lasted about an hour before the chemicals in the water ate through the...
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm going to ask you to pause there.
I don't understand what you're saying exactly.
You're saying that, for some reason, distillers...
I don't understand the...
What gave out?
Distillers work just like your hot water heater.
They have a couple elements in them that heat up, and these elements actually cause the water to boil, and after the boil turns, after the water's boiling and turns to steam, then they go through a cooling process to bring it back down again.
And these elements are usually, they might be made out of stainless steel, they might be They might be made out of ceramic.
They might be made out of carbon.
There's a lot of different types of components and elements in these.
But basically, it's just a screw into a stainless steel chamber, and the water flows over it and is heated by these.
And what happens is that these elements are eaten up by the chemicals in the water as they get hot, and they disintegrate.
That's why on your hot water heaters you should change your elements every couple years.
You know, you scrape all the crud out of the bottom of a hot water heater or you drain it.
Sometimes these hot water heaters will have actually up to four to five inches of material in the bottom of it.
Of course, those are leaching in the water, too.
But you shower in that.
Those chemicals.
So I wanted to stop us from doing that.
I wanted a better way, a better water than what was available.
And for instance, one of the articles that was published by Dr.
Jennifer Herlanda just this last year, January 13th, and it was a recent study by German researchers, showed that there was about 25,000 chemicals In a single bottle of water.
Which that's quite a few chemicals in just one bottle of water that's supposed to be H2O. And of that they found that 90% of those caused an androgenic activity and 60% was an estrogenic activity.
And now we have men getting breast cancer and To me that's due to the hormones that are put in the food chain and the water that we're drinking.
And of course all the hormones that go into the food chain eventually work our way into our water supply.
So the people that are in power or control this situation have a choice of either spending extreme amounts of money or trying to get these chemicals out of the supply, Or just shut off the supply whatsoever.
And of course, that means they turn their head and don't do anything.
A lot of the stuff in the water is what they use to manufacture plastic resins.
A lot of the plastic that they use in bottles emulate the estrogens in your body.
So you're overloading your body with estrogens, endocrines, hormones, That was never intended to be there in the first place.
Okay, so at this point you had this dilemma.
You wanted to create a better water, and this is specifically for your wife's condition, is that correct?
Or just in general, that the both of you wanted better water?
I was trying to be a very good husband and use my knowledge.
Make mama happy.
If mama ain't happy, no one else is happy.
But she had specific health problems or was it just generally that you wanted her to be healthier?
Well, she was starting to pick up some health problems.
She's celiac.
She's gotten allergic to any of the wheats that are out there now.
And she was also having allergies and now she's allergic to plastics.
And a lot of other things.
Okay.
So at that point, what was your solution?
My solution was to come up with a non-contact way of distilling water.
What I do is this process, I actually have to try to purify the water as much as I can before I even put it into my device.
Because my device removes even the last ounce of anything, and it also destroys any chemical that's in there in the first place.
It rips it apart.
It's got some high voltage in there, and it's got infrared and a lot of other things.
But the water that I put into the machine is, when I read it on a meter, is zero pardons per million.
It's zero, basically.
And even putting that great quality water in there, the machine will still gunk up with what it's removed after a period of...
It can be anywhere from a week to six months.
Okay, so you created...
Is it because of your Black Project background that you thought along these lines and were able to create such a machine that would then purify the water even further?
Or did it come, I guess I'm trying to figure out where you got the sort of insight to be able to do this.
I'm not quite sure where it came from.
My background has been so varied, and one of the projects I did work on used some of this technology.
But that's been 50 years ago.
Well, can you tell me, I mean, I don't know if you want to answer this question, so if you don't, you feel free not to, but can you tell me whether the black projects, the area that you worked on, the secret government, whatever you want to call it, secret space program, whether they're using any of these techniques to purify their water, the ones that you are currently employing as well?
That I don't know.
The government tends to take things and not tell you.
Some of the things that I worked on in my project that I invented and I came up with and for them to use, I couldn't even see what the final application was.
Kind of like Oppenheimer inventing the atomic bomb and did not even let them see how they built the thing in the first place.
Okay, so you created a device that would then...
First of all, you purified the water to a certain level, and then you put the water into your device.
What method did you use to do the purification?
Because don't you run it through something like 22 times or something?
Yeah, through 13 filters.
I run it through...
One of the problems with chlorinated water is it then generates two byproducts.
That are cancer causing, that remains in water.
So any water that's ever been treated with chlorine, which is almost all the drinking water, still has contaminants in it.
And these two contaminants are cancer causing.
They're low levels, but they do build up eventually into your liver and your kidneys.
And so you have to use special filters just to get those two chemicals out.
The carbon does not remove those at all.
So my 13 stages I have different filters to remove different chemicals and then I also do reverse osmosis.
Then I do three stages of DI, DNI water.
So it's kind of tailored to try to take out as much as you can out of the process and even though the water reads zero when it runs through my device, My device then picks up the rest of it,
but when it picks up the rest of it, it will deposit it, and those deposits will eventually, if I don't change the vessel that I use, stop the machine from working.
I've found extremely heavy metals in there.
I've found plasticizers in there, chemicals.
I'm sorry, you found classified what?
Heavy metals, I'm sorry, and plasticizers, and some other things that are classified.
What do you mean by some other things that are classified?
I can't go any further than that.
So you found, you're saying in regular drinking water, you found things in the regular drinking water that were classified?
Yes.
Okay, would that be because of chemtrails?
That might be part of it, also because of other facilities.
Okay, what part of the countries do you live in?
I can't.
I don't want to disclose it.
Okay.
Are you able to say east or west?
West.
You're in the west.
Western United States.
Yes.
Okay.
So this stuff coming into the water is classified, but it doesn't get removed in all that processing, the 13 sort of purification methods you use, right?
No.
No.
Okay.
Okay, so at that point, your device then, in theory, takes this stuff out.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Okay.
At that point, are you able to, would it be, you know, I don't know whether you have a copyright or any of this sort of thing.
Have you copyrighted your device?
No, I have patents on it.
You have patents on it.
Yes.
I don't want to because then They could do a search and find it pretty quickly.
Okay.
And are you making any effort to sell these devices?
No.
Okay.
All right, so...
It's too complicated and too dangerous.
Why would it be dangerous?
I mean, it would be dangerous to you because they might try to take you out or something like that, but would the device itself, is the process that you're using a dangerous process?
Yes, it is.
When you say it's a dangerous process, and again, feel free to tell me if you can't answer or you don't want to, of course you can, but if you don't feel it would be wise to answer the question, but when you say it's dangerous,
I'm just curious, In other words, is it dangerous because of the things you're using, like are they toxic chemicals or nuclear type things or things like that nature?
Or is it the process that involves being flammable or something?
No, it's because there's extreme high voltages in there and some of the waves that it generates.
It would be very dangerous to humans.
Okay, so do you have to live away from people in order to process this water the way you do it?
No, I have it in a place of my house away from it.
The machines right now are in the prototype stage.
We've never generated a commercial version of it, but people would not want to live in the vicinity of it.
I mean, they would not want this As it is right now, they would not want it in their house.
Okay, they wouldn't want it in their house.
What about in their city?
I mean, in other words, does this cause...
No, there's nothing like that.
It's just that the potential for someone to be harmed is a mess.
It would like, if you were to play around with an old TV set back from the 50s, and you opened it up, there was...
What they call the five watt transformer that would generate up to 30,000 volts.
And you would not want to stick your hand in there.
Okay.
All right.
And obviously, like I said, this is a prototype device.
So until a lot more money is thrown into it and it's developed for the average home user, then It'll stay that way.
And the other problem is that you have to really purify your water before it goes into here.
For instance, I had this on a well, and it's supposed to be a really good well.
It tested pretty good.
Within two weeks, it had trapped enough of the contaminants of the water that the device had to be changed.
Okay, from the well, in other words, the water from the well.
The water from the well, right.
Okay, so what happens is you created this device.
It was a prototype.
You put the water through it, and at that point, did you test it on yourself and your wife?
Is that what you did?
Yeah, we started drinking it, and then it kind of occurred to us that because this water was acting a little strange, a little bit different, Then other waters that maybe we should try some other testing with it.
And one of the things we did, of course, was we tested on fish because we thought fish were more susceptible to water than anything else that we knew of because they had to live in it and they had to pull their oxygen out of it.
So we started growing fish in it.
And the minute we grew fish in it, the fish turned into uberfish.
They all prospered.
Not a single one ever died.
They looked like an Arnold Schwarzenegger fish.
They were just beautiful.
Their colors were beautiful.
Their lungs were well developed.
And none of them ever got any diseases.
So then we moved on to plants and we tried it on plants and found out that the plants were doing better than any other plants.
Their leaves were much broader.
They were much healthier.
And then we tried hydroponic plants and found out that those guys grew about twice as fast and their root system was much bigger than anything else.
So then we moved on to try it with some other materials like concrete.
Found out that the concrete will cure in four days instead of 28 days.
And then at the end of the 28 days comparing it to another concrete, it was almost twice as strong.
Okay, but how long did this testing period last?
The testing period has probably lasted, and it still lasts enough until the day.
But probably seven to eight years.
Okay, and during that time, was your wife also being healed of various things?
Yeah, she's still celiac.
But what happened during the attention period while we were doing this, someone came to us who was 70, I believe he was 72 at the time, and he was going through kidney failure.
And he He was with the Mayo Clinic and so he came to me and he was a PhD in chemistry and he could not walk more than probably 50 feet at the time and he was always out of breath and he said that he was going to have to go on dialysis and because he had to go on dialysis it was going to be the end of his lifestyle so he asked me if he could try the water And I said,
well, I have no idea what this is going to do.
I know it's different water.
I don't know how it's going to react in the body, but go ahead and try it.
He tried it, and within a month, and we had him do blood tests.
It's very important that we believe people get blood tests so they can see their improvement.
And what happened was, within a month, his kidney functions, he was in kidney failure, It had increased by over 30%.
At the end of two months, it had increased by 70%.
And then at the end of the three months, the Mayo Clinic removed him from the transplant list and said he was no longer a patient of theirs because his kidneys were returning to health.
And his insurance said they wouldn't cover any kidney transplant or any kidney work anymore because he was in good shape.
So today that guy is teaching college and he's running up to five miles a week.
Okay, and so...
So basically, were there other people that then...
You know, came to you, or did you start giving it to people that were sick?
Because at some point, I know Jeff Harvey got involved here, and I want to get to that point, but just to summarize, because I know that this could be a very, very...
I was trying to keep this under my hat.
That's fine.
And I was just trying to help people that I knew that might have some problems, and...
Keep it quiet.
I didn't want any problems.
And it started to get outward by mouth.
And then it's kind of taken off from then.
Because my search for what's trying to find out what was different with this water has led me to major universities where this water has been studied and proven that it It's scientifically different than other waters.
One of the people that we were working with was Dr.
Jerry B. Pollack, out of the University of Washington, who has studied this water.
And then he asked me to speak at one of his conferences, so I spoke at one of the conferences.
And I believe that's how Jeff then found me through that particular Reference to Dr.
Jerry Follick.
That's correct.
Sorry?
Yes, that's correct.
Okay.
Just to clarify though, you're saying that the university started testing the water.
Was it the water you gave them or are other people coming up with this kind of water at the same time?
We don't know of anyone else who has this type of water.
One of the university studies was done by a material scientist, probably the most renowned in the world, and he has said that this is the only water that he has ever found a change in.
Dr.
Pollack has studied many different waters also, and one of the things he has said about this water is he's looking at it This water has been studying different methods, one of them is Raman spectroscopy, another is UV-Viz, and another is IR. And all the different universities, there's been four universities that look at this now, have found this water to be different.
And it's different from any other water that they've ever seen.
Okay, and this is only your water, is that correct?
That's only my water.
Now, Dr.
Jerry Pollack believes that water that's in cells in your body, when water is near an interface, any type of interface with the surface, a hydrophilic surface, which means water-loving surface, the water actually will change its energy level.
A lot of people like to talk about structured water or that's how water structures, but in reality is the water, the bonds actually will change their energy level.
And we think this is natural, for some reason it seems to be a law of the universe, is that when water gets near a surface, a hydrophilic surface, it will actually change its energy level.
This is very important because it appears that the water that are in cells rearranges itself or it changes its energy level and that energy level is expressed by a structure or the H3O2 that's talked about.
Why this is important is because there's now a question of how mitochondria cells or the mitochondria in cells will actually generate The energy to start the chemical reaction, to start the Krebs cycle for the ATP to beat the energy for other cells.
And previously it was just that, you know, you put two chemicals together and hopefully that'll get it started.
But as with any other chemicals, you have to have some sort of catalyst, or you have to have heat, or you have to have energy of some sort.
And it now looks like that energy is actually derived from water.
That the water that's inside the cell itself and that surrounds the mitochondria, actually that particular water is H3O2 water.
It has the charge.
And that charge is what the mitochondria uses to start its chemical reactions.
So it turns out water It's the very basis of life.
It looks like without water, unless you have something else that's generating that energy, you don't have the life cycle that we have here on Earth.
So you throw some chemicals in it, you throw it in water, and you give it some energy, and that energy then starts the other chemicals to react, and it generates life.
Okay, but you made an interesting statement.
You said the water when it gets close to the surface, and that's a funny way of putting it, but water when it gets to the surface, and I don't know if you mean the skin or the earth on the surface of the earth or what surface you're talking about, but that it changes its composition.
And what did you mean by that?
When water gets close to any surface that's hydrophilic, and I'm talking about any surface there is, it changes its energy structure.
And what Dr.
Jerry Pollack has found out, and the reason he found this out is that he was trying to look at how blood flows through vessels.
And to simulate that, they did some gel that simulates the blood vessels in the body.
And they were flowing water through it, and then they put in some small glass spheres, very minute, very small, and these spheres were flowing through the simulated blood vessel.
And they noticed that there was something called an EZ zone, and EZ means exclusion zone, that near the surface of the interface, Where the water was flowing through, that all the microspheres were eliminated from that space.
And there was only one reason why that could be eliminated, is that there was some sort of charge there repulsing them.
They found out that all the spheres would gather in the center of this tube and be excluded from the outer peripheral.
And then this test, of course, has been repeated by Hundreds, if not thousands, of universities around the world now.
And so, when it gets near any surface, whether it's water on the ocean, or whether it's the water in your body, or any surface, there's a different energy level there than it is in what he refers to as bulk water.
And he has actually measured With some voltmeters, that differential.
Now, you also have to realize that this exclusion zone happens to be nanometers, millionths of a meter, which is, you know, it's probably a thousand times smaller than a strand of your hair.
It's very, very small.
But it only occurs around that region.
And what it looks like is that this water that I have generated through this method is becoming, most of it is becoming EZ water, or this H3O2. That this energy that is being pumped into the system that I use to modify this water actually is creating that EZ water and it stays there.
And so the bulk of the water, of this easy water, or a percentage of it, and we don't know what percentage of it is, but a percentage of this water actually needs to come in this easy water.
So when you drink this water, what happens is that your body doesn't have to do anything to convert it.
There's no contaminants in it, so it super hydrates through it.
It goes in the cells very easily, and it doesn't You don't have to expend energy to get it into your cell.
It's already been changed.
So when it folds into the cell, it actually has a positive charge to it.
And that charge actually helps hydrate you better.
It actually helps you do your chemical processes much better.
And because most scientists and doctors now believe that All diseases and all problems that people have start from what's called inflammation.
Inflammation is nothing more than a fancy term that the right chemicals are not in a cell and it might either be lacking the right chemicals or it might have the wrong chemicals in it.
And that causes inflammation, and inflammation then causes that cell to be diseased.
It's not working optimally, and when that cell is diseased, it then replicates itself, and more cells grow, and that's what happens in how we get chronic diseases.
So that if the cell isn't hydrated properly, if it's not getting the right water, If it's getting contaminated water that's carrying extra chemicals in there that the cell doesn't like, the cell does some off chemical reactions.
Just like when you're brewing alcohol, you want to make sure that you only give one type of alcohol.
All the other alcohols are the wrong alcohols.
And those alcohols are what poison people or give you a hangover type of situation.
But that same analogy is what applies to this water and to the cell function.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I can see that it gets very involved.
and you know, but I appreciate the explanation.
You know, it doesn't completely answer the question because there is some change happening when it gets to the surface, which would indicate that there's some consciousness in the water that, I mean, consciousness might be too big of a word, but, you know, for, you know, what's happening.
But, in other words, it does, it might be a further study, especially with the work of Masaru Emoto and others, Talking about, you know, the way water structures itself, picking up and recording information in it, I'm told, as well as emotions, etc., and reflecting that in its structure subsequently.
That's one of the reasons why...
That's a very good description.
reflecting in that structure.
That's probably the best usage of structure I've ever heard, Carrie.
Thank you.
In fact, I'm going to use it from now on if I can.
That's a great way to describe it.
Because what happens is that water is a very unique chemical on the face of this earth, extremely unique.
It doesn't behave like any other chemical.
It's one of the few chemicals, one of the few molecules that expands as it gets colder.
here.
You know, everything else shrinks.
Water expands.
There's something like a thousand different anomalies that water does that nothing else does.
So water is far more complicated than people could ever begin to imagine.
Yeah, I see that.
All right, and thank you.
I think, Jeff, you wanted to say something?
Yes, we call this H3O2 easy water for a reason.
It's not water H3O2, but H3O2 easy water.
And it's because of the exclusion zone that we name it this.
Because the exclusion zone, speaking towards your comment, may actually be where the seat of consciousness is for water.
And when you say exclusion zone, your label is for where it gets close to the surface?
Right.
In other words, these layers are formed when it gets near a hydrophilic layer.
And so it may very well be that that's where the seat of consciousness is.
I think it's all going to depend on the vessel that it's in and the boundary layers.
So it's going to seem to vary depending on those factors.
Can you speak to that?
Yeah, Dr.
Jerry Pollack, Gerald Pollack, of the University of Washington, has written a very good book on the fourth phase of water, and this is what he's called the fourth phase of the water, is that this water It's different than other water that's either steam or solid or liquid.
It acts different.
And because of that difference in its structure or in its phase, water behaves different near surfaces.
But that surface, for instance, we're only talking about One or two molecules, maybe three molecules of water.
What Chuck is talking about also is that.
Go ahead.
And two or three molecules of water near the surface is, you know, you're talking about the size of an oxygen atom, basically.
A little bit larger than that.
And another thing...
Go ahead.
You're talking about an extremely thin layer.
Extremely thin.
Even on the ocean, it's extremely thin.
Now that layer, through some more experiments that Dr.
Gerald Pollack has done, can be enlarged.
And they found out that enlarges the exclusion zone by sunlight hitting it.
Which then starts to explain some of the actions that we have in trees and that sort of stuff.
If you take a tree and if you were to calculate what pressure, let's take a 40-foot tree, and obviously the water is absorbed through the roots.
Now for the water to get all the way to the top of the tree, They found out through conventional methods, if you were trying to pump it up, I believe I think the number is a thousand PSI. And obviously you don't have a thousand PSI pressure of water in a tree.
But because of this explosion zone, then you can explain how water gets all the way to the top of the tree.
Is that the water actually changed itself in the air surface.
And of course as the surfaces get closer together as they do for the veins that allow the water to travel up the tree so that you have more of the easy water and the easy water actually has a charge to it.
It's actually attracted towards the top of the tree and that way you don't need to have any Any pressure in it, you just have a charge that will draw up there.
Well, just out of curiosity, there's a movie in which you see a person sticking this tube in a tree and drinking, getting liquid out of it.
I assume it's something like water.
Would they be getting that through this process?
Yes.
They would be getting a large portion of it.
Now, of course, what he's drinking out of the tree is not all water.
It's a lot of other chemicals and minerals that are dissolved in it, but the majority of it is water.
But he would be drinking a good portion of EZ water.
However, when it flows out of the tree and there's no hydrophilic It's in a larger volume.
That easy water will convert back to bulk water.
Back to what kind of water?
The bulk.
B-U-L-K. That's water that is not near a surface.
See, this water changes.
Just because it's easy water near a surface doesn't mean that it will stay that way.
When that molecule then leaves the proximity of the surface and is driven back into the majority of the bulk water, it returns back to normal again.
I see.
Well, I mean, just loosely speaking, and I have no idea what I'm talking about here, but it also sounds like it's possible if trees do work that way with water that maybe that's your ultimate way of getting easy water by creating a filter from a but it also sounds like it's possible if trees do work that But take it out of the tree, it reverts back to normal funnel.
Even if you drink it out of the tree?
Yes.
Okay, so there's no way to get it to stay in that state is what you're saying?
No, I didn't say that.
The particular thing that I have used, it has to do with a resonant cavity.
And this cavity happens to resonate at the frequency of the OH bond, the stretch bond of the water.
And because of the way I've done this, is that it creates this water and that water stays that way.
Okay, now I don't want you to give away your secrets, but I do want to ask you if Jerry Pollack is trying to manufacture this water as well at this point.
No, he's not.
I'm shipping him water, and he's testing my water.
I see.
Also, something you should know is that when this water was tested by a major university, what happened was they took over 200 structured waters from around the world.
You know, you're looking at all the major ones out there, the Hunza water, all of them.
And basically what happened was they found out That this was the only one that had a state change.
That's important to note.
So the other waters, when they get close to the surface of, you say, the exclusionary surface or whatever you call it, didn't change?
No, out of all the ones tested, correct.
Okay, but...
I do want to move on from here, but one last question here.
In terms of water that gets close to the surface of the ocean, I think you did use that example, are you saying there's this kind of water, easy water for lack of a better terminology, close to the surface of an ocean?
Right, and it's about one millionth of an inch.
Okay.
Is it close to the surface of, let's say, a river?
Yes.
Is it bigger or, you know, more of a...
No.
It doesn't, it's not any wider?
No.
Okay.
But it exists?
It exists.
Okay.
What you're saying is, can you harvest it?
And the answer is, I have no idea how you could get it in sufficient quantities to be able to make it useful.
Okay, right.
I just wanted to know if it existed, and I guess certainly the next step might be going along those lines.
I'm just going to make a weird turn here just for one second, and you can either respond or not respond, and please keep your own safety in mind when you decide whether to respond to what I'm going to say here.
Dan Beerish has this project called the Lotus Project, which is supposed to be able to basically...
Well, I'm not even sure exactly what it does, but I know it is using sound, for example, but I think it's also working with crystals, but it's working with water.
And one of the things that he was going to use the project for was to supposedly turn, you know, clean seawater.
And so I'm wondering if there might be...
I don't know if you know who Dan Bearish is, but I wonder if you'd heard that and whether or not he may be going down along these lines.
No, I have not heard that.
The problem though with that is that once you harvest this water or you collect the water or you create it through another method, within a millionth of a second it's turned back to normal water.
Okay, and when you say it's turned back to normal water, would it Would it still be a more pure version of normal water, or would it just be normal water with all the...
No, it would be a more pure water.
Okay, so it would have some benefits, in other words.
Yes, that is correct.
However, you have to look at the state change that this water has and the fact that it does not come out of its state change Chuck, do you want to...
Okay, it doesn't come out of a state change in the water that Chuck is actually generating and putting in...
I guess you're bottling it, is that right?
That's correct, and we have to bottle it in glass.
Okay.
And how long does it hold this state?
In other words, a person can obviously take the top off the water, drink it, and does it stay in its state for a long time or does it have a limited shelf life?
We've tuned it up to a year.
It's never lasted more than a year because all the water that we've ever generated has been drank.
So I can't tell you whether it's out there for 20 years or not.
There are no old samples of this.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I mean, this is a fascinating discussion and I really appreciate all the depth you're going into.
Can you talk then, I guess let's just bring Jeff into it in terms of, Jeff, you then sort of were, I guess, at death's door, so to speak, again, and this is how you met up with Chuck and got exposed to using his water.
Do you want to describe that?
Yes.
I've been within a week or two of death probably five or six times, so I guess the way to phrase this is getting kind of used to it.
But they had given me three days to live, so I made my arrangements at the funeral home, and I made my arrangements at the crematorium, and I had made my peace.
I was fine.
I was interested to see what's cooking on the end of their side.
So, you know, basically I was...
You know, ready to go.
And then I happened to be listening to a radio show with Mel Fabregas and he had Jerry Pollock on.
And Jerry was talking about water in the fourth state and his book.
And I'm thinking, well, this is fascinating, very interesting stuff.
And then he starts talking about he's got this friend who's a scientist who is reversing end phase kidney failure in about 30 days with this water.
And so, you know, now the ears perk up.
I'm starting to say, okay, darn it, they just made arrangements.
All right, well, let's go see about sticking around a while.
So the next day, I call Mel.
Mel puts me in touch with Jerry.
Jerry puts me in touch with the scientists, which is Chuck.
And so I gave him a call, and Chuck and I talked.
I told him my situation.
I was quite candid, and I let him know what was going on.
He said, look, I'll give you my last output.
I've got a couple of processors, but I only have one output left.
And I said, I really appreciate that, and if you'll do that, and it works, I will promote you on radio shows, and of course, you know, I'll make sure that everybody knows about this, and I'll do my very best.
And so we had this conversation.
He said, okay, fine.
So I said, all right, I need to do some due diligence.
So I said, you know, I noticed you have some testimonials.
And we decided to make a couple of phone calls.
So I called up several of them.
And lo and behold, they said exactly the same thing that the testimonials said.
And these stories were staggering, Carrie.
I mean, just staggering.
You'd call these people up and they're happy-go-lucky, they're cheerful, and it's, you know, a year or two years after they started all this.
And so I realized that there's no doubt I was going to make it out of this.
And what was interesting is they all said the same thing, that in one week you will notice changes.
And at six months you'll feel like a new human being.
And then about a year out, you know, your chronic disease state is gone.
And it was interesting because in 30 days, they're talking about getting out of the danger zone from your chronic disease condition.
And I thought, 30 days is a bit much to be, you know, talking about that you actually are out of the danger zone.
But sure enough, at the end of 30 days, my numbers on my blood tests had almost totally normalized me.
And it was just, it was hard to imagine.
And the doctors, when they saw my blood tests, they were kind of stammering a little bit because, you know, they told me that I only had days left to live and that I probably was not going to make it.
And there I was, you know, doing great.
And now, you know, I spreadsheeted all of my blood tests from January back to today.
And my creatinine levels were 10.1% To start with, way back.
And now, I'm at 5.6.
So, you know, a normal would be, I believe, 1.3.
Is that correct, Chuck?
Yeah, it is.
It used to be 1.5 and lowered into 1.2.
All right.
So, you know, you look at that, and I started at 10.1.
Obviously, I'm way, way, way down now.
And all my other tests are starting to really improve to the point where You know, I look normal on blood tests, except for a couple of numbers.
So it's really making a huge dent in this, and that's hard to imagine.
And here's something that was very interesting, that it's important that you note this, because this is the answer to a lot of problems out there.
I was listening to Richard Allen Miller a while back, and Rick was saying that, you know, the barium And the chemtrails is sucking the water out of the air and sequestering it.
And I called them up and I said, Rick, I heard your story on the radio show, and it looks to me like what's really going on is that the barium is sucking the moisture right out of our cells and causing massive dehydration.
And I said, the reason I'm saying this to you is because Our H302 Easy Water is reversing all these different disease conditions according to the testimonials from all these clients out there.
You know, it's not my words, it's their words.
And I looked at many, many, many different testimonials and they're all the same thing.
And it didn't matter whether it was Lyme's disease, it didn't matter whether it was end-stage, fourth-stage cancer, it didn't matter whether it was end-stage kidney or end-stage liver failure.
They were all going the other direction.
And literally, out of the dangers of the done in 30 days.
Well, you can't have all those different things going back to normal unless you're actually at the root cause of all of those diseases.
And so that's what I, you know, I said this to Rick and I said it looks like H3O2 easy water is actually...
At the root cause of these problems.
So it has to be cellular dehydration and it's got to be coming from the chemtrails.
And he agrees with me.
He now talks about that in the radio interviews.
So what we have here is the actual reversal tool for all of those things.
And even though it's not instant, you know, it takes months to get there, it's doing the job.
And it's something we need to pay attention to.
You can take this water and you can freeze it, or you can boil it, and it still will not change state.
Go ahead.
Okay, so in terms of the usage though, just so people who are listening can understand this, what kind of usage are you talking about for that 30-day period?
Are you usually drinking it twice a day, more often?
Okay, you drink this water and only this water while you're going through the protocol.
And you drink between 15 and 64 ounces a day, depending on what your needs are for consumption.
But most people drink between 15 and 30 ounces a day to do their hydration.
And just remember that as few as 30 ounces of this will hydrate you Better than 64 ounces of tap water or well water or distilled water.
Okay, and just because it's a detail, but it's interesting.
If people are eating food, you get water and food, so inevitably they're going to be putting another kind of water in their system if they eat, assuming they do, during those 30 days.
Is there an awareness of that side of it?
There is.
And, you know, there's no preclusion for that.
You know, obviously, you're going to be consuming vegetables and carrots and cucumbers and all kinds of things with lots of moisture in them.
And that's not going to change.
However, plants and plant-based foods have H3O2 in them.
And just like in the cells of your body, your body does not have H2O in it.
Your cells use H3O2. Okay.
Let me put this in perspective, too.
Obviously people, when they get sick, one of the first things they do is they turn to juicing, right?
Steve Johns does it, a lot of those people do it.
A lot of the people that have returned to health that uses water have done it.
So they've gone down that path.
They still get sick.
They got worse.
Most of the people that we have helped are towards the ends of their life.
There are no other options to them whatsoever.
And there's no place else to turn.
They don't change their diets.
They keep doing what they're doing, basically.
And they still get sick.
When they drink this water, they get healthy.
Now, what's the only thing that's changed?
Drinking the water.
Not only that, but they don't even change their diet when they drink the water.
Right, I get that.
Okay, so is it...
I want to move on from here, but this is the last question along these lines.
Is it possible that the water, this H3O2 water, when it comes into contact with other water in this state that you've got it in, Food or whatever else is more dominant and does not...
In other words, it doesn't get what you might say...
You know, made impure or made lesser than by its exposure to these other things, but actually maybe the reverse happens.
In other words, maybe even by osmosis or something, but somehow that exposure to the H3O2 water in that state that you've got in, then influences these other things to then be better than they are, or even converts them.
Is that possible?
Yeah, all chemical reactions with this water behave better.
So, you know, it's almost like this water makes them do what they were supposed to do.
For instance, concrete.
When we do concrete, instead of taking 28 days to cure, it only takes 4 days to cure.
And it does it almost twice as strong.
The only difference is the type of water that we use.
Period.
You know, looking at that analogy and carrying it into the cells and to the food.
For instance, when we cook with this food, I do know that there is much more flavor with it.
In fact, I like to joke when I tell people that we brew our tea, and what I demonstrated to it, all I do is drop tea in at room temperature, wait about three minutes, and then we have tea.
And it tastes like brewed tea.
When you make coffee with this, it's the smoothest, best coffee you've ever made.
And I have to laugh at that because I just noticed in one of my scientific journals that they just did a big study and these German scientists were doing it and French and English scientists.
They wrote a big article on the taste of your coffee that you drink depends upon how much water you brew your coffee with.
And I have to laugh at that because I've been demonstrating that to people for almost 10 years now.
In fact, one of the things we do is we brew coffee with this water at room temperature.
All you do is you throw the grounds in, you wait until it dissolves the chemicals and the oils, you strain it out, and you can have cold coffee at that point if you want.
If you want hot coffee, you can heat it up to But what you were saying is correct.
It does cause everything else to react probably the way it's supposed to react in the first place.
Okay, and is there a way that, have you done this test, which kind of sounds like an obvious test, that you take, let's say, I don't know, an ounce of your water, put it in, let's say, eight ounces of regular water, Would it convert that water into all being H3O2 or not?
I have no idea.
I've never done that test.
You never did?
Okay.
Well, this just sounds kind of like an obvious one that you might like to do.
All right.
Well, at this moment, I guess what we want to do is maybe just sum up the situation with your wife, because it all started with trying to heal your wife, correct?
So did she heal?
I think people would want to know.
Yes, she did.
Everything after the Celiac disease and the plastics and stuff, she's sensitive now to genetically modified foods.
She's sensitive to any plastics that are in the food chain or whatever.
But other than that, you know, we test our blood quite a bit to make sure our Blood pressure is correct.
Her blood pressure is usually 80 over 60, and then she gets excited and might go up to 90 over 70 or something.
She's probably going to live to 120 years old if she lives a day.
And she's just extremely healthy at this point.
Okay, and what about you?
I'm doing great.
At one point, I had bought into the The old adage of the FDA knew what we should be eating and I followed their food chain.
And of course I eliminated all fats or most fats that I could out of my diet and everything else.
And last year when I was out in the extreme cold here, and it was about 20 below, I think, we think, I might have got an ice particle.
And as I came back in, it heated up, and it got stuck in one of the veins that surround the, or the arteries that surround the heart, and punctured a hole in one of them.
And so I walked around for about three days, not knowing that I had a heart problem.
I knew I had it.
I thought it was indigestion, but it wasn't.
And we went into the hospital, and when I went into the hospital, the The nurse and the doctors said, ah, it's just, you've got, you know, you hate the wrong food or something.
You've got some heartburn, but we better check you out.
And so they drew the blood.
The blood tests were normal.
Didn't show that I was having any heart problems.
And just before they released me, they said, we better go in one more test to make sure that, you know, there's no problem.
So they ran an EKG on me, and they found out that I had a punctured They did give me a stent, and they did it pretty quickly.
But as they were doing it, they did an angiogram, and they sent a camera down there, and they were looking at my blood vessels, and they found out there was no build-up, no cholesterol build-up, nothing.
They looked pretty clean, but just a puncture in one of the arteries.
And when they did it, they looked at the cholesterol, and the cholesterol, which is one of the first units that's supposed to go to the site so that it blocks in the holes or whatever, would all gather at the site and try to block up the hardery.
And then after about three seconds, they'd all disperse and run away.
And so he said, that's been your problem for three days, is that You've actually had heart problems for three days, but it never got any worse.
It would not coagulate and give you a real heart attack.
So the doctor said, I've never seen anything like this.
What's with your blood?
And I said, it's in the water, doctor.
It's in the water.
So I'm doing quite a bit healthy now.
I did change my diet.
I went to saturated fats.
I found out the problems with you should not be eating mineral vegetable oils.
I make sure I drink raw milk.
I make sure I eat free-range cows and free-range chicken and make sure that none of the food chain has any hormones in it and that sort of stuff.
So I've gone back to eating a more natural diet.
Okay.
I do want to give Jeff your website where people can get this water because I know everyone listening to this will want to do that.
And I also...
There was a brief discussion on our previous recording of...
I think it's called...
einkorn wheat or einkorn flour.
And so, you know, I thought that was a valuable discussion as well because it seems to sort of go along these lines, although it may be a different subject altogether.
So why don't you, if you could kind of give a summation or some final statements in regard to the water and so on, anything that we might have forgotten to ask.
Both of you, one after the other, and then I'd like just a brief discussion about this einkorn flower because I was very impressed by that information.
So do you want to, Jeff, sum up from your point of view anything that you think hasn't been said about the water?
Give your website and just some logistics for people, anything that occurs to you.
Sure.
Before he does that, I want to remind him to, excuse me, speak about the Morgellons disease.
Yeah, we should talk about that.
We have a, well, one of my detox patients is a Morgellons patient, and she actually did my website work and redid my entire website.
So those of the folks out there who have said it looks much better, thank you very much.
It's Cindy Morgan, and she does a nice job.
But she's a Morgellons patient.
She's had this for years.
And you know how bad Morgellons is.
It's just horrific.
And we haven't spoken about this with the water yet, but, you know, after she came to me, I said, look, I'll do my best, but I have had no success with Morgellons to date.
And so I said, I'll do what I can.
So I put her on a detox protocol and a nutritional protocol and got her started.
And then, you know, the H302 Easy Water came along.
And I said, you know what?
Our 10X Silver would be the ideal thing to do as a trial with her to see how well it would work.
So we put her on the 10X Silver, and only about three weeks ago, I think it was about three weeks, correct, Chuck?
Yeah, I think it was three weeks to a month, somewhere around in that.
Yeah.
So what happened was, we just got an update from her.
And we're talking to her a little bit the other day, and she said that the lesions on her legs were drastically reduced.
And I mean drastically.
As well as the lesions elsewhere on her body were starting to reduce quite a bit as well.
So we're having some really great results.
And, you know, as you probably know, no one has any kind of help for Morgellons patients.
And this is helping.
Now, that's only part of it.
What we also noticed was she has some boils on her back where the Morgellons material is trying to exit the body.
It's literally doing its very best to exit it.
And that's a good, good reaction.
We had some Herxheimer's reactions, which as many people know is a detox reaction.
So this is really very good.
But on top of that, what we hear from a lot of Morgellons patients Is that they're always tired.
They can't do anything.
They're in pain all the time and it's just horrific.
Well, for the very first time in a really long time, she actually went out with her friends on a Friday night.
And that's just tremendous.
That's incredible news because most people, they can't go anywhere because it's just such a horrible disease.
So we're having good results.
With Morgellons using the 10X Silver.
Okay, and just so, because we didn't talk about the 10X versus the, you know, I know you have 10X Silver and then you have just 10X the water and then 10X something else.
I forget, it's the water at one time or something.
I'll cover that.
Can you talk about that?
Sure.
When Steve takes the really purified water and he puts that through a processor, Chuck basically will do it only once.
And then that's what most people are drinking to get out of their situation.
Now, when Chuck puts it through the processor ten times, now you have an ultra-potentized product that's coming out of there.
So the 10X and the 10X Silver are basically going through it ten times, and they're ten times more potent or better.
Now the silver is different because it's only five parts per million, and we found that only five parts per million of silver gets tremendous results because of the way the H3O2 Easy Water will actually deliver it into the cells.
And so many silver products are not used, and I don't recommend them, because, you know, they damage the intestinal tracts, good flora.
But in this particular process, It does not damage the intestinal good flora.
And the reason is because it's such a low parts per million and because it's being delivered by the easy water.
And that's a tremendous result.
So we have these products on my website, which is www.jeftech.net.
And anybody who has questions, do not email me.
You'll simply give me a call and my number direct to my desk is 570-219-2025.
And I'd be more than happy to answer any questions that you might have.
And of course, you'll find that we're quite friendly and we answer your questions and we process your orders.
But right now, we have a little bit of a problem.
We are so overextended with the orders currently That we have a 30-day backlog of orders, both the 1X and the 10X. Now, Chuck has put together another processor, and that's up and running right now.
So that 1X backlog is going to be removed very shortly, and we think the 10X will also be out of backorder status very quickly.
But we have something else that we're doing that may help a lot of people.
And that's basically the fact that you can actually invest in a processor and you get first rate of refusal on all of the outputs on it, which means that if you put in seven or fourteen thousand dollars,
we will immediately send you out the water on the outputs for about six months, which is obviously That equals the amount of time that you would normally put in and be getting the product.
So you're getting a little bit more than your money is worth out of it that way.
And you go to the head of the line and no one, there will be no back order stats for you.
So that's one way of getting this very quickly is to actually fund the building of a processor.
A processor costs about $14,000.
But if you put in 7,000, we'll combine you with somebody else, and we will build a processor for both of you.
And you'll get the outputs, and that will take care of it.
We have one other thing that we can do that may be helpful, and this applies to you, Kerry.
First of all, when people go to my website, they want to know how to make donations.
And I do not want any donations at all.
What I ask instead that you do is you earmark those donations for Carrie Cassidy.
So if you want to make a donation through PayPal, you send the money to sanct.ptd.net and in the comments section you earmark that for Carrie and we will pass that on.
And the other thing we are going to do is we have now Put together and this is mainly because of Chuck's efforts and Chuck really has done most of the work on this.
So what he did was he took the processor and he re-engineered it with his background to increase the output so that what we can do is we can actually make a distributor program for someone like Project Camelot and we're going to extend that to you so that if you wish to put this on your site you can And we will take the proceeds from that and we'll put that directly back to you.
Right, and thank you so much for all of that.
That's just great.
Let me just ask, or let's talk a little bit about the idea that this is a very expensive process, that you guys don't really have the kind of funding to supply the number of people that are actually getting wise to the possibilities and the healing It's the nature of this water.
And I also want to make sure that you both give the disclaimers necessary to say that, you know, that you don't claim it heals anything, etc., etc., whatever you want to say, just to protect yourselves from the FDA and other kinds of organizations that are trying to, you know, interfere with this sort of thing.
So please do that, but also talk about the idea that If there was a larger investor there, out there somewhere, who was interested in seeing this do what it should do, which is basically transform water worldwide so that this could become a huge company and a huge effort,
Obviously, and processes could become state of the art, possibly even, you know, certainly serving large numbers of people, etc.
So all of that would require, you know, capitalization, right?
That's correct.
The commercial processor is going to run approximately 300,000 to put one of those in.
Chuck, can you speak to the The outputs for something like a commercial unit.
Well, first of all, the state of this technology right now is what you can compare to the first Model T versus what we're driving today to a Lamborghini.
You know, there's no comparison whatsoever.
There's been, of course, a lot of money that they've put into it.
Or if you want to compare it to The first Apple computer that Steve Wozniak and Jobs worked on in their garages to the iPhone today, there is obviously no comparison.
We're at the very beginning of this and it can only increase exponentially.
One of the things that I would like to do eventually is make sure that every village in a rural The market has one of these and it's driven by either solar power or it's driven by wind power.
So these units are in its infancy right now and in its infancy it's doing a lot to help people.
Now we don't use the term that it kills people or that it cures people because that's prohibited by the federal regulations.
I guess we could call this a food supplement, just like you would take a vitamin, you would drink this water.
So it's a food supplement, I believe.
And we're not calling this in any way curing or healing.
If you want to find out what it does, I guess you can listen to the testimonials, and those people can state for what they felt that it achieved in their bodies.
But we're not claiming any of that.
Neither Jeff nor myself.
So I do want to make that perfectly clear.
We've done the legal statement that we're not making any statement.
And these have not been approved by the FDA. So we look at this as a preventative measure.
This is not It is a preventative measure that simply everyone is drinking water now.
And so the only difference is you're drinking a more pure version of that water, but that also has a whole lot more energy in it.
And it's that energy that's helping the cells to open up And the lipid bilayer to accept more as well as the aquaporin channels to be able to pull the water molecules in faster and better with the oxygen and the nutrients behind it.
And what that does is it makes those cells hydrate to a superior level.
Something that has not been done before.
And so you're looking at a preventative measure.
All right.
Well, it's very good.
And you do have testimonials, I assume, on your website?
Yes.
Okay.
For people.
And the links that they go to to actually purchase the water, do you want to give that out?
Sure.
It's www.jeftech.net.
And if you click on the H302 button on the left, and when the new page comes up, you click on the hydration catalyst button on the left, and it will give you the three choices from the drop-down box, and you can decide whether you want 1X, 10X, or 10X silver.
Okay.
At this point, just to wrap up this discussion, and I want to thank both of you.
This is the second time through, and it hasn't been easy.
We wanted to make sure to touch on all the different things we touched on the first interview.
We're going to try to salvage that one as well, as I said.
But just a bit of a discussion, a short summary of the einkorn flower and your understanding of what that does, because people are having so much trouble with wheat at the moment and I guess you can also describe maybe this would be for Chuck to describe what they've done to wheat that's made it so it's just not all that healthy to eat and also I guess everyone knows that
it also tends to make you gain weight so why don't you go ahead with that.
Chuck, before you do that, would you also go into the cosmetic use of the 10X? Yeah.
Iocorns are a pretty interesting breed of wheat.
It is the very first breed of wheat.
The very first one that was known to man and that we used 14,000 years or more ago.
And it was the wild wheat that was used by primitive paleo man to go out and chop on and to make bread and whatever else he made.
Before man started settling into towns and cities and camps and tribes and clans.
When man started doing that, then the next generation, so that it would produce more, was called hemer.
And hemer and spelled and everything else comes from that.
As I mentioned earlier, my wife has seized the attack.
And so she has to stay away from the modern wheat.
Well, I think corn only has 14 chromosomes in it, whereas the modern wheat will have somewhere between 50 to 200 to 300 chromosomes in it.
Some of those chromosomes are rounded up.
They've spliced roundup into it.
That's why it's listed as roundup ready.
So, when you eat the modern wheat, you're actually eating a little bit of round.
You're also eating a lot of protein called gliadin.
And gliadin is one of the major principles of inflammation in the body.
The human body wasn't really meant to digest it and use it properly.
So, gliadin is another major ingredient of modern wheat.
So, This einkorn is pretty interesting because they found out that over 90% of people that are celiac that have problems with weed can eat einkorn wheat.
It's a very nice wheat.
It's made in Italy.
The problem that we don't like it here is because it grows tall.
It grows up to three to four feet on the stem, whereas the modern wheat is a dwarf wheat and it only grows six inches.
So growing six inches, you would think it needs less water than the einkorn.
But it turns out to be exactly the opposite.
The einkorn requires less water.
Einkorn is not bothered by drought.
Einkorn is not bothered by weeds.
And it grows naturally.
It's just a natural, out-in-the-field weed.
The majority of it is grown right now over in Italy.
And what's interesting about that is that our wheat, for the most part, is banned over in Europe, and what most of the Europeans are eating are einkorn or hemer wheat.
It does not raise the glycemic index like modern wheat does.
The modern piece of bread that you might have, you might as well just swallow two tablespoons of sugar.
It has the same sugar level and glycemic effect upon your body as just swallowing two pieces or two tablespoons of sugar.
So when you have that wheat in the morning, skip it and it just goes straight to the sugar.
You're getting the same effect.
And of course, there's not much nutrition in the modern wheat except for what they put in.
This einkorn wheat does not raise the glycemic index.
In fact, I've found myself that it actually lowers my blood chemistry, the sugar chemistry, the glucose, and it actually lowers my blood pressure after I eat it also.
So we make breads with it, terrific bread.
We love sausage and gravy in the morning.
So what we do is we actually will take raw milk, And some mine corn that we use for the roux for it.
We cook up some good old pork that's been not processed, but similarly processed.
It doesn't have any added nitrates or anything in it.
And we make ourselves some nice sausage and gravy and some biscuits with it.
And after you do that, you find out your blood pressure drops.
It doesn't go up.
It drops.
And actually, your blood sugar drops, too.
So, and like I said, over 90% and some people have estimated up to 95% of people who are celiac or have problems with wheat or it does something bad to them can eat the vine corn without any effect whatsoever.
Okay.
It is a tremendous tasting tissue.
Alright, thank you for that.
Just because we are going quite a while now and I want to sort of I'm going to bring this to a close, but I would like you to address, as Jeff asked, which is what you call the topical application of this water.
In other words, putting it on, I think, even melanoma, it's supposed to be able to help that.
Now, one thing that we do is, one of the scientific studies that I was interested in, or for some reason, I kept running it through to see what effect it would have upon the water.
And we found out if I keep running it through the machine again, that is, I cut off the water that usually flows into it, and I take the output of the machine and I run it back into the machine again, and I do it ten times.
One of the original people who came to me, she had melanoma on her face that was about the size of a silver nonger.
And they were going to try to take it off, cut it off, and she was afraid that they were either going to nick the bones or cut a blood vessel and the melanoma cells would go into it.
And once that gets into your bloodstream and it spreads, there's not much they can do for you after that.
So she did not want to go through the operation and go through a facial relift also.
So, again, we told her we don't know what this might do, but it's much stronger water.
So she soaked the water, the 10X, on the pad and put it on.
And after three months, the melanoma was totally gone.
And she's the, I believe, the third or fourth person now that has had melanoma, and it was cancerous, that is now totally gone.
There's no sign of it whatsoever.
The 10X water we use for topical.
You can also take it internal, but you have to be careful because you can only take maybe one or two ounces because it is an extreme cleanser for you, too.
It will detox you very quickly.
And I'm talking about very quickly.
So what you have to do is you have to be careful with it.
Now, as part of that, we take that 10X water and we have a cosmetic line Where we use only natural ingredients.
We use no silicones, parabens, dimethicones, anything like that.
There's a wonderful webpage called EWG that's Environmental Working Group.
And if you go on there, you can look in their cosmetic section.
In their cosmetic section, they list all the cosmetics, major cosmetics, That are produced by everybody in the world, all their ingredients, but their toxicity levels are.
And the toxicity is whether it damages your internal organs like your kidneys or livers, or it might attack your prostate, or it might hurt your reproductive glands, or it might cause cancer, it might cause allergies, it might cause skin problems.
And our ingredients are zero.
We have no concerns whatsoever.
None of the ingredients that we use are artificial, nor are they causing any problems in any part of the body.
A typical woman will absorb between five to ten pounds of chemicals per year through her face with the cosmetics that she puts on.
And 70 to 80% of those will cause cancer, reproductive problems, or immunoproblems.
So if you're interested in watching your cosmetics, go onto this EWG site, type it in, and you'll find out that your cosmetics are probably causing some health problems or major health problems.
If you then look at our ingredients, which are listed On Jeff's website and type those all in or do a search for them, you will see there are zero concerns for them.
And these things are wonderful because they will help you prevent from sun burning.
You won't get sunburned anymore.
If you have scars, it'll remove scars.
It will remove blemishes.
There's an anti-aging cream that removes wrinkles.
There's a hydration cream that if you're living in an area where you have to hydrate your face, if it gets dry, you just spray it on a couple of times during the day and your face is nice and moist.
We have a cleanser that will remove waterproof makeup even though there are no petrochemicals in it, no parabens, no silicones in it whatsoever.
And everybody's amazed at this, that water can remove waterproof makeup, but it does.
We even had my daughter try it once, and she put on one of these semi-permanent tattoos that you get.
You know, they fade after three weeks or something like that, but they aren't supposed to come off.
We had her put one of those on, and then she came home and totally removed it within a couple hours with our water.
Also for drinking, you can add 15 ounces of distilled water and you can drink that for your easy water drinking water.
So it's a really nice way of getting the job done.
Okay, very good.
Sorry for that.
Someone was trying to call me.
Okay, excellent.
Well, thank you both for all of this.
I think it's fascinating and wonderful as well.
And I think that there will be more to come in this regard and hopefully we can also even do a later interview as things progress with everything.
So, again, thank you for coming on the show, and I'm sorry the first try was so problematic in terms of echo.
I am hoping and believe that this recording will be more understandable, and we're going to still ask if there's anyone listening who's willing to create a written transcript, donate that to this effort, and contact me at kerry,
K-E-R-R-Y, At Project Camelot dot TV. That's TV like television, so Project Camelot dot TV. And my email address, in case you just didn't write it down, is at my website under contact as well.
But anyway, if you want to make a written transcript and you're able to do so, please contact me.
And certainly if there's any way you guys want to be contacted other than your website, do you want to give out an email address or any other information?
Well, again, it's www.jeftech.net for the website.
And for contact, I do not like to get emails, but I prefer a phone call.
And my phone line direct to me is 570-219-2025.
And again, Kerry, thanks so much for everything you do.
Thank you, thank you.
Okay, both of you, thank you for your service to humanity and let's see where all of this goes.