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Feb. 22, 2014 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: TIMOTHY GOOD - EARTH AN ALIEN ENTERPRISE - now with CAPTIONS
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Thank you.
I believe, what propels them and so on.
So we're going to be doing a short interview here You've actually been on the British press, from what I understand, a number of television, maybe the BBC from time to time?
Sure.
Over the years?
And you've been reporting or giving your commentary on sightings?
I don't know if you actually reported, because I don't live in Britain, but I do believe that Rendlesham Forest, for example, that incident is very well known in Britain.
Is that one of the incidents that you might have reported on?
A long time ago, yes.
I've actually done some fresh commentary relating to some updated information provided by Colonel Charles Holt.
Oh really?
Listeners would be very interested to hear what your update is on that story.
Well, it's just, it's nothing sensational, really, but just Chuck Holt's frustrations of dealing with some of the people who were with him at the time and witnessed certain things who have since changed their story.
Some very high-ranking people, and he was kind of pissed off for that.
Oh really?
And they changed their stories how to?
Saying that they weren't there with Tom Holbein, he was there, and things like that.
I reckon.
One I reckon personally.
Fascinating.
Alright, well, is there anything specific about that incident that you might be able to share with us from your point of view?
Sure, yes.
I mean, I have reservations about some of the principal witnesses, but hopefully Nick Pope will sort out some of the problems in his new book, Rendezvous, I think it's called, something like that, which I think it's out now in the press.
I was hoping he'd add some events which happened ten days before the Henderson Forest incident per se, which I witnessed in part.
On December 15th I was returning to my home in South East London when, in a completely clear sky, there was a brilliant point of light and I thought, that's interesting, it can't be Venus or whatever.
And it was one occasion when I didn't have a camera or a pair of binoculars with me, so I ran home, opened the windows, by which time I got movie camera, I got still camera, telescope, the whole lot.
Went at the second I opened the window, it shot off, and fortunately it was seen for well over an hour by thousands of people in South East London, thousands of people, and video for a good Some good video footage was taken from Sevenoaks area.
Can you describe the craft?
Well, unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to put binoculars on it, so it was just a brilliant point in the sky, which would remain in situ for a while and then shoot off in different directions, and some smaller spheres would come off it, and that's exactly what it did at Wenderson ten days later.
Wow.
And fortunately there were a lot of witnesses, thousands of witnesses, especially people in the Orpington area who made drawings of the craft.
What they drew was an elongated triangle, identical to the shape of the actual craft that came down at Renison Forest ten days later.
So that was interesting.
That's never taken into account, but I think it's very interesting because nobody has any film or footage of what went on.
Well, it's amazing that you were a witness.
Yes, I mean, it's very frustrating because as soon as I went to really look at it and get pictures, it disappeared at that moment.
Incredible!
So you believe that Nick Pope will, did he interview you for his book?
No.
No, he wasn't interested.
He didn't want to put it there.
Which is unfortunate, I think, because it's very much part of the story.
Right.
In my opinion, particularly since, as I say, there's film evidence and photographic evidence.
Well, was this reported, like, did it become news at the time?
Yes, it did, because the day after that, I got a phone call from a local journalist in South East London, and he said, are you aware of any UFO sightings?
And I said, funny you should say that, but yes, as it happens, yesterday afternoon, I was returning from shopping, and I saw this thing in the sky, and then it disappeared.
And he said, well, there were, like, at least a dozen workmen.
I think it was a hospital rebuilding project in Auckland.
We were watching this thing for like three quarters of an hour, and there were smaller craft going round it.
Incredible.
It was cruising above the sky, it would stay in the same place for a while.
That went on for a long time, and good drawings were made, sketches.
And there is some video, but video was in its infancy at that time.
So, the people that are changing their stories, do you know exactly how they're changing?
Just saying, I mean, how can you say, you know, because there's so many books written.
Yeah, there's people like Peniston and Burroughs, I've not met them.
But there is some evidence, even Chuck Holt suggested it's quite possible that some of them were.
Not brainwashed exactly, but were dealt with by the American military.
There is some evidence that that took place.
Their minds have become befuddled by what they actually saw.
I keep a very open mind on that because I don't know I wasn't there.
Have you read the, I believe it's, I forget his last name, but Left at East Gates?
Yes.
Because I interviewed him.
Pete Robbins.
Peter Robbins, that's right.
And what did you think about his account?
How was that as far as accuracy?
It's a long time since I've read the book.
All right.
Well, you know, we don't have to...
There are, you know, I find some of the evidence slightly dubious.
But I like Larry.
He stands by his story.
Right.
And who knows?
Things were done to some of those guys.
Yeah I believe that.
Well I mean if you were to sort of come to a conclusion about the actual craft that was there on the ground Do you believe, for example, was it a military craft of ours, so to speak, or was this extraterrestrial?
Certainly, I think it was extraterrestrial.
I mean, it might have been built here because there were extraterrestrials here.
Sure.
But, no, that was for real.
I guess it was about 15 feet in diameter, in length rather.
It may have been a bit more, maybe 20, but that's my guesstimate, if you like.
And it tallies precisely with the shape that many of those people saw in Orgerton.
You were passing binoculars around.
Incredible.
So, I mean, that in some ways really substantiates the story even more.
Yeah.
And, you know, Chuck Holt, I regard him as a friend.
He's a very honest man.
He's never changed his story.
Okay.
Okay.
I am curious, you know, some of our witnesses, maybe you haven't heard of them, but one in particular called himself Henry Deacon.
He's also, came out under his real name, Arthur Neumann, worked in various capacities for the government for a time, and has now kind of gone to ground, as they say, sort of hiding out.
I'm not aware of that.
Yeah.
Well, he's very...
You're sort of familiar with things that go on in Britain and how the Americans and Brits work together.
And I just wondered, with your incredible background, do you consider yourself knowledgeable about the structure behind the scenes of which militaries are working together, how they're configured at various spaces?
Let me give you an example.
In 1952, Air Marshal...
I'm just trying to think of his name now.
I've forgotten his name.
There was an air marshal.
I'll think of his name.
Sir Peter Horsley, whom I knew for a brief while.
I had several meetings with him.
He told me that in the early 1950s of the height, this is about 1952, he told me that the height of the UFO crisis, the Americans were in charge because he said he was in the operations room.
Which was dealing on a daily basis with the UFO situation.
And Sir Peter said to an American General, General, can you tell us exactly what's going on?
And they said, sorry Sir Peter.
Now I can also tell you that the Ministry of Defence is largely actually controlled by the United States military.
It has been for a very, very long time.
Okay.
Yes, because my witness does talk about, he was actually American, also worked in Britain for a time, and I can't say where, but I heard stories of this kind, and I just wondered.
And Sir Peter Horsley also had an arranged meeting between him and an extraterrestrial.
Really?
I think it was in 1954, arranged by a British army general.
And I think it was either an hour or two hour meeting took place in Chelsea and there were a couple of witnesses.
And so Peter was very disturbed because there was an alien there, immaculately dressed in a grey suit, I think.
Do you know what kind, what race of alien?
No.
Very normal looking.
Oh, humanoid.
Very much so, yes.
Well suited up and everything.
And that was an interesting discussion.
And that was back in 1954.
And Sir Peter told me that he found it very disturbing because this alien could meet his mind.
And he knew all Britain's top secret nuclear secrets.
Very interesting.
Was he particularly tall?
Did he describe him as tall?
Average.
Average?
Average looking?
Not particularly good looking?
No.
Nice looking.
Very smart.
Very smartly dressed.
But I don't think he provided any more detail than that.
Not to me anyway.
He provided the property to the Judah Vedder who He immediately reported to afterwards because at that time Sir Peter Horsley was equerry to Prince Philip and to a certain extent to the Queen for seven years at Buckingham Palace and Prince Philip has long had an interest in this subject and he still does to this day.
But he reported this to you?
Sir Peter, first of all, wrote it in his autobiography.
I went to meet him.
We had several meetings.
He told me a few more information.
Incredible.
But you're saying also, at one point, that he was actually told by the Americans he wasn't going to be let in on certain information.
Absolutely.
It must be said to an American General in the British operations group.
General, can you tell us what's going on?
I'm sorry, sir.
That's rather stunning.
It hasn't changed.
I'm sorry?
It hasn't changed.
No?
No.
It's not that they're very much...
The Americans are very much in charge.
Still to this day.
That could be a good thing.
It's a natural opinion.
Right.
But that kind of contradicts some aspects of the question because there's the City of London.
Are you kind of familiar?
Have you investigated the City of London?
What is known as the City of London?
No, I haven't.
What do I need to know, apart from the fact I was born in the city of London?
Well, no, it's specifically this area that's referred to, which is the financial centre, which is not London.
It's this specific area known as the City of London, and it has that designation.
And I have a secret witness that is a military man who spent time going to meetings with very, very high up People that were in some secret societies as well as military and other people who were, what he said, were figuring out the fate of the world at the time.
I wouldn't have a chair on him.
It's a fascinating bit of information and I have met him in person.
I've gone to England a number of times.
He wouldn't go on camera or anything, you know, this was off the record, and so on.
But it is documented.
And he actually wrote, we did sort of a question-answer sort of thing, and he wrote answers.
And I can send that to you.
You can have a look.
You can put you in touch with him, quite possibly, if you're interested.
He appears to be a very honest man.
I can't say much more about him at this time, but I met him and met his wife.
This is very interesting in terms of this individual.
Do you have other witnesses behind the scenes who report to you information that maybe don't even come out under their own name?
Because we find this to be common.
Most of my most treasured witnesses and informants, I've never given a name, so...
Okay.
There is, let's see, his name is...
There's an ex-policeman.
I'm wondering if you ever sort of met with him.
An English policeman who was very well known.
He died not long ago.
I think his name was Tony Dodd?
Tony Dodd, yeah.
Yes.
He's on email.
Yeah, and he reported to us secretly certain information.
Thought well of our project that we were involved in.
Obviously he's passed on, so I feel I'm at liberty to talk about this.
But he did report to us about Torchwood, the British series.
That it was based on the truth.
That there really was or is a group of, you might call them alien hunters for lack of a better I don't know anything about Torchwood.
Was it a television series?
Yeah, there's a very famous British series called Torchwood, and then it got made in America.
It's all about a group.
They sort of operate out of an underground base.
In the series, they're a group of people with varying talents that deal with ETs that are spotted around England and the world, for that matter.
And they go investigate those individuals.
In some cases, they kill them.
In some cases, they imprison them.
And, you know, whatever the government tells them to do.
I mean, they're working for the government.
Or the secret government, as we would call it.
But, anyway, he reported to us about that.
He said that that information alone was enough to get a person killed.
Maybe he didn't want to endanger you or something.
I don't know, because you're quite well known.
Yeah, that's interesting, yeah.
Well, it is often interesting for researchers, such as ourselves and yourself, certainly, to compare notes, you know what I mean, across the board, because sometimes we'll find things that dovetail, and sometimes there'll be some inconsistencies that give us maybe a heads up on what maybe a witness is steering somebody the wrong way.
There's a tremendous amount of disinfo out there, as you can appreciate.
So, I was wondering about Menwith Hill, actually.
Are you familiar with that place?
I've seen it on numerous occasions, of course, in the auction malls.
What?
But you don't have any inside knowledge?
No.
I mean, it's an early warning system, as far as I know.
For the ballistic missiles directed at the UK. Really?
Well, at least one Secret Witness has disclosed that there are Americans and Brits working there as well.
But the implications of what else is going on there are.
There are some other things also.
I wouldn't know.
Tell me.
Enlighten me.
What is claimed, anyway?
Well, what is claimed is that there's a jump route there, or a jump gate, that takes people to sort of a...
Well, where you can teleport to other planets.
Who's saying this?
Just a secret.
We have all kinds of people approach us with information, so it's just a person.
And because I have you here, and because you've got this background in sort of investigating these kinds of things, I just wonder if you've heard anything like that.
Never.
Never?
Okay, and what about Demona in Israel?
I've been told the same thing about that.
Is that a consulate or something?
No, Demona is a...
No, it's a nuclear facility underground in Israel.
And I'm told there's also a place where they teleport there.
But there are certain places where bases, for example, are built on ley lines or what's called intersections of ley lines, where vortexes are created.
Well, various people.
So I'm running this by you to see if you've heard any of these things.
Well, it is interesting.
I have a guy...
As soon as I would meet someone who's saying these things, I would probably know in a few minutes as to whether I'm fabricating them all.
Why would you know?
Just instinctive.
Instinctive?
Okay, well, I have an investigator who...
has documented the fact that it's a very interesting phenomenon that bases, both in America and around the world, military bases, Pine Gap, for example, Demona, Menwith Hill, there are a number of them, are all built purposely on these intersecting ley lines.
Now, that's more of a sort of a scientific fact and you can investigate that, you know what I'm saying?
So it's not something somebody would make up in their head.
Because, you know, ley lines are known phenomena and all of this, right?
But what is interesting about that is what they can then do as part of that, you know?
So, okay, well, you know...
Well, a military, a secret military is interested in using anti-gravity and other means.
There you go.
And so there is a sort of phenomena that is associated with time travel and also, you know, going from, say, here to Mars or other planets that uses this energetics having to do with vortexes.
Also, atomic bombs, for example, can be escalated if they happen to be detonated in this I mean, you know, living in England, about Avery and Stonehenge and all of that.
And you know that these are built on intersections of these ley lines as well, right?
Well, I don't know that.
Oh, all right.
Well, these are things that, you know, because we, see, when we do investigations, we are also talking to people that are investigating, say, ancient, what, ancient archaeology.
So, and I have a witness, for example, who is named Pere Vila, that I just interviewed in, well, it was in Barcelona area, who...
Who has studied the Templars and where churches are built.
They're also built on these same kinds of intersecting lines.
And there's a reason for this, for the energetics being utilized by things like the secret space program to do certain things that they want to try and travel again, space travel, etc.
And it can be facilitated.
Perhaps you're familiar with, and I think his name is going to escape me, but it's an individual who trapped that UFOs were coming in on a grid in certain specific areas.
I think he's from New Zealand or Australia or something.
Oh yeah.
He wrote a book about it.
At any rate, so that same phenomenon.
Bruce Cathy.
Yes, exactly.
So you've heard that.
Now there's some people that question whether that's actually true or not.
But it is certainly interesting because we do know that UFOs can in a sense blink in and out.
It appears they go interdimensional.
Well, not necessarily, but that could be an explanation.
Yeah, but again, Cathy's work sort of dovetails with that notion that they're coming in on a specific intersection of lines that allows that.
I mean, they also say storms, for example.
Because a storm, in some cases, has got a vortex configuration, that UFOs utilize those kinds of configurations to then materialize.
No, but from the point of view of a UFO, maybe, you know, it's just utilizing the energetics.
Alright, well, I appreciate that's not your area, but I just wondered if you'd heard anything along those lines from your witnesses, people that, you know, give you information.
In terms of the structure of the governments that are running things behind the scenes, In your work, is that sort of where you gear your investigations, or are you really interested in the phenomena themselves?
Both.
What is both?
So, would you be able to report, for example, what you found, sort of, what's going on with why the moon suddenly became an area of interest to the Chinese recently?
Yeah.
I mean, they just sent a probe up there, apparently.
I expect there are quite a few races on there already.
Actually, I think there are.
So you're aware that we have bases on the Moon and Mars?
Yeah.
Okay.
Probably United States Air Force Space Command.
Okay.
Just a real space probe.
NASA's just front.
Right.
And I would agree with you completely there.
Has anybody reported to you about Phobos?
One of the moons of Mars?
I've read all sorts of things about Phobos and Dinos, but what's the latest?
Well, it's not recent information, but I did have a very secret witness that reported to me that Phobos is called a command and control center for, in essence, a working relationship between what are basically a working relationship between what are basically the Anunnaki that were reported by Clark McClelland.
You know who Clark McClellan is?
He talked about seeing a very tall being instructing space, what were in essence human-sized astronauts on a space station.
So one of the names for those beings could be Anunnaki.
You know Sitchin's work, I imagine?
At any rate, I have a witness who, you know, remained very secret, but he suggested that there was a working relationship between those tall beings and humans on Phobos.
Solar Warden, I was told, is a sort of a space patrol.
It has these vehicles, some of which go in and out of the dugway.
In Utah, there's a base there.
Have you heard things about Dudway, for example?
Rumors.
Rumors?
Okay.
Well, why don't you tell me what you have been hearing in terms of the structure of the militaries of various countries, the relationship and...
For heaven's sake.
No, I mean, you know, because I think...
Well, I don't expect you to have all the answers, but I think that you've certainly been in the game.
I mean, I've only just indicated that the United States Air Force Space Command is one of the real people in charge of the space program.
NASA is just the front row.
And our own astronauts have been flying alien vehicles since the mid-1950s.
And a lot of our own pilots are flying, and I've dealt with that in my new book.
Even in Italy, there were up to 15 Italian Air Force officers flying spacecraft, which had been donated by aliens a long time ago.
I've got a whole chapter on the so-called Amazizia case, which is about A group of aliens, some of them tall, some of them very small, who gave us the technology to develop craft identical to theirs.
In some cases they gave us their craft, which are very simple to operate.
And so a lot of people are flying these craft, and we have that technology.
We've had it for a long time.
And some astronauts, even Gordon Cooper, has flown what they might call flying saucers, which have been provided to US Air Forces just as well as in the same way that the Italians were and several other governments have been provided with advanced craft.
So, did Gordon Cooper relate this to you personally?
No.
I knew Gordon Cooper.
He corresponded.
I had a high respect for him.
He told it to a friend of mine, who doesn't want his name revealed to, who I trust implicitly.
He actually did say, I mean, it's on the record.
It was 1978, I think, when there was a United Nations meeting on UFOs, which actually It came to nothing at all.
Gordon Cooper was livid.
She was so frustrated.
He said, what does it take?
Do I have to fly one of these craft to the United Nations building in New York and prove it?
That's how he felt about it.
Excellent.
And that was in 1978.
So that gives you some idea.
Yeah.
It's just amazing.
I mean, you're about to be on a panel discussion here about the cover-up, correct?
I don't know if it's about the cover-up.
That's what it's about.
Believe it or not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And interestingly enough, I think you're going to find that several of the people on the panel are going to speak to the idea that, or at least they're going to act as though the cover-up is more or less accidental or actually imagined.
One in particular, John Alexander, likes to talk about it as being sort of a figment of people's imagination that there's a cover-up at all.
But there's lots of evidence of who he works for.
So I'm glad that you're aware of that.
Did you know Brian O'Leary, by chance?
No.
Well, you certainly know who he is.
I did an interview with him.
We interviewed him in a place called Vilcabamba in Ecuador.
He's died recently.
He had a very fast-acting version of cancer.
But he was quite an activist in the area.
He actually went around the world writing books about free energy inventors and activists.
That was many years ago.
He's written a number of books from before he died.
But he was convinced that someone tried to kill him to eliminate him.
So he moved out of the United States.
I wouldn't be surprised.
For example, are you familiar with The so-called disasters such as the Challenger disaster and others.
I haven't heard any strange rumors about that.
Oh, you haven't?
Okay.
Well, I have, actually.
Well, I have a witness.
His name was Ed Loughran.
I interviewed him and shortly after he received a phone call and he actually fell dead.
His wife was standing there and he died instantly.
She ran out of the house.
She was very afraid by what had happened.
That's how he died.
He was reporting to me on the Kennedy assassination.
He was a ballistics expert, a person who had spent his life, you know, as In the military for many years and also outside of it, but he was a ballistics expert and was talking about, you know, the various billets.
He was obsessed even at this late date with the Kennedy assassination, what really happened.
But he also apparently was on the crew of a ship that was there on the scene of the Challenger disaster when they hit the water.
And it's said that some of the people were still alive.
And they were asked to turn the ship around and go elsewhere and not rescue them.
I mean, these are the kinds of things that obviously have been going on for a while now to cover up the story of what's really going on here on Earth.
So, you say the Italians are flying a number of these UFOs?
As of about, I don't know, ten years ago?
Maybe a bit less than that.
What about, you know, who are they working with?
Do you know?
Well, the so-called Amatizia Friendship aliens were actually in touch with many countries, recruiting people that they felt they could trust and would be able to disseminate this information to other people.
It lasted for about, I think, at most about 40 years.
Starting in the mid-1950s, and all sorts of high-ranking people were involved, military people, high-ranking judges, doctors, authors, quite a number of Catholic guys, including a very distinguished Catholic historian who actually took a photograph of one of these tall aliens in Canada, and I'll be showing that in my presentation.
Oh, I can't wait.
Thanks.
Excellent.
What about yourself?
In what respect?
Were they in touch with you?
I've had three encounters in my life.
The first two of which I wrote about in one of my earlier walks.
The first was 1963 when I was touring America with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra.
I saw someone waiting in line, as the Americans say.
We were on a 512 mile Bus ride from, I think it was, Tucson to Los Angeles.
And we had one stop for an hour for, you know, an evening meal break.
And I saw this extraordinary living girl waiting in line.
And she was quite petite and very attractive.
Something you extraordinarily learned about her.
And I immediately thought in my mind, I was in the orphan elsewhere, could you pass by this table?
And prove it to me.
I was with three colleagues, so I had three witnesses.
And this girl made a point of coming right round to my table.
And she was quite short and gave the most graceful bow like that.
Oh my gosh!
She was having a cup of coffee in one hand, if I recall correctly.
And then she just walked away with a deadpan expression.
Oh, that's lovely.
I never saw her again, unfortunately.
There was another incident in 1967, which is more well-known, and I wrote about that in one of my early books.
And I, at that point, was with the London Symphony Orchestra, and there was like a break between the morning rehearsal and the evening concert near the Carnegie Hall, we were staying in what used to be called a Park Sheridan Hotel.
And I sent out a mental thought To anyone in New York who might be of extraterrestrial origin to come and sit down next to me and prove the point.
I didn't really have much hope.
But after about half an hour, a guy comes in immaculately dressed, as these guys are, and the girl I saw.
And he came and sat down beside me.
Because in my mind I'd said, you know, I'd really like some kind of concrete proof, and if you could come and sit down beside me, then I would love to see.
So then, in my mind, I said, in my mind, I said, could you take your right index finger and put it to the right side of your nose and hold it there, in my mind, and immediately he went like that.
Oh my God, that was beautiful.
And that was it.
I hadn't asked to communicate with him verbally, so I didn't.
I thought it would have been inappropriate since I hadn't requested it in the first place, but he seemed very blessed, about five or ten, slightly pale olive.
I think some of these guys have noticed.
And the last experience is complicated.
We don't have time for that.
It's in my new book, Earth and Alien Enterprise.
And it was quite disturbing, but at least I had many, many witnesses.
I was the guest of honor at a debating society in Wroclaw in Poland about nine years ago.
And I saw someone I thought was from elsewhere.
It turned out he was the last person to give the last presentation, which was about five, six minutes.
I'm making big cuts here because there was a lot that went on.
There were about 80 people there.
There was some debate that went on from 7 o'clock to about 11 o'clock at night.
And I made a point of communicating with him.
I mean, face to face.
Oh, very good.
So I spoke to him and he was just like a zombie.
Really?
He was best at looking, about 5'10", I would say.
It's a long story.
I tried to buy your book actually.
I was trying to get an e-book version of it and having a bit of trouble trying to figure out how to do that.
But the outshot of that thing was, after a lot of unusual things happening when I was trying to take photographs, and that was prevented, all sorts of things happened.
At least I had witnesses there.
And the final thing was that he was the last person to talk, and you can't talk about more than six or seven minutes.
The subject of his talk was Earth's Future in Space.
Yeah.
Okay?
So I was all ears and that's why I went up to him afterwards and we were confronting each other.
He didn't say a word.
I said, I think you have a great deal of knowledge.
And he took my hand and there was no problem.
It was just like a cold, totally, quite pleasant looking otherwise.
And he walked away and I never saw him again.
After that, none of us could remember at least the ten people who'd taken me there who'd been putting me up in a castle in Poland.
None of them could remember what he'd actually said.
I said, what was that guy talking about?
He said, oh, yes, it's about our future in space this evening.
What did he say?
He could remember nothing.
Was it recorded?
By contract, the speaker is supposed to, myself in this case, is supposed to receive the recording of the entire debate, which was about three or four hours, four hours ago.
I'm supposed to get photographs which were taken by professionals there.
I'm supposed to get a printout of everything that was said there as part, because this was a professional.
It went on and on.
I couldn't get hold of the people that I used to talk to to get any of that.
Everything was organized.
But I still have all those witnesses who remember that he talked about Earth, future, and space, and that they couldn't remember a damn thing since.
Have you thought of having, you know, I don't know, regression or something?
Yeah, I've thought about it.
Maybe that'll happen.
I guess possibly that'll happen when the time comes.
Okay.
Yeah, fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.
Well, I can also say that I've met a few.
There is one in particular that, you know, sort of stands in mind.
Who is...
In a sense, being handled by a person who was...
I think he's a psychologist or a psychiatrist or something of that nature and works closely with the military.
And we saw this person in a social gathering.
But it was a woman.
And, you know, yeah, he's...
Sort of her kind of handler, watcher, whatever you say.
Yes, very humanoid, of course.
So, well, certainly that story alone is reason enough to buy your new book, I would say.
But why are you saying...
The title of that book is very interesting to me.
An alien enterprise.
Because it is.
There's been a vested interest on the part of certain aliens.
I believe those aliens who produced us, with whom we are genetically related, obviously.
And there's a strong vested interest on the part of aliens in this planet.
Some for very good reasons.
Others, unfortunately, for not good reasons.
And that is, I've written extensively about information that's been passed to me by a former government person who I've known for very many years about what actually is going on and about the hybridized The hybridizing races.
There is one race in particular, and it's been going on since 1940s, early 1940s.
And they have a 100-year plan to produce a hybrid via abductions.
And I've gone into the book in tremendous detail about all their anatomical details.
Why they can't do this?
Why they can't do that?
Everything has been provided for me.
It's quite a disturbing scene.
And this is the problem.
Those races are trying to produce a hybrid.
Because at the moment they can't interact with us as just, you know...
Yes.
...grays, if you like.
But there are different types of grays.
That's another question.
But their goal is to take over the planet.
Yes.
With a hybridized.
Yes.
Well, I'm told that they're already quite successful.
There are a number of children on Earth today that are what you would say is fully half-grey.
It's quite possible.
Yeah.
So I would be very interested in what you come across.
So that's the problem.
Yeah, it is a problem.
It's an alien enterprise, but the good news is that we have beings with whom we are genetically, really.
We have a lot in common, and there are thousands, some of them live from several, I believe several thousand years.
Because they're thousands of years ahead of us, so they can control them.
They say we'll move to that extent one day.
And they have our best interests at heart.
And they have theirs at heart, because they have a vested interest on the planet, just as we do.
Right.
Okay, very, very interesting.
Do you know the names of these particular friendly races?
No.
You don't?
I've never given any names of the races.
No?
No.
And I'm dubious of some of the names.
There are loose names like Nordics and all that sort of stuff.
Are you familiar with Jay Widener's work at all?
I've never heard of him at all.
Jay Widener.
He's a pretty well-known author.
He kind of got very well known by getting very much into the Stanley Kubrick material and making films analyzing the sort of subtle...
the way he was seeding his films with information about what was really going on.
At any rate, he talks a lot about this particular race.
Some call them crypto-terrestrials.
Have you heard that terminology?
No.
Well, it gets back to the Rosicrucians and even earlier than that, but there's a certain race that's considered to be quite humanoid.
The Anunnaki, which, you know, if you go by the Sitchin information, are depicted on Sumerian temples and in Egypt and so on as sort of tall, big, you know, the bone structure is quite human-looking.
But the crypto-terrestrials have a much finer bone structure, so they're a different sort of anatomical...
Race of beings, but they're here, and we have mixtures, you know, and all of us are, in essence, I mean, humanity itself is a hybrid race.
I really appreciate that, probably.
Although, this new sort of rendition, which is the gray-human hybrid, is troubling sort of movement in a certain direction.
Anyway, what about Stanley Kubrick and his work?
Great film, I think.
It's one of the greatest films in her name.
Okay.
2001.
But did you, because you're English, you know, I've been hoping to interview Stanley Kubrick's wife for a while, thinking that she might, it's probably a, you know, false hope, but thinking she might reveal more of what he was really on to, so to speak.
Did you ever?
No.
You've never had any dealings with her?
No.
Well, it might be.
Maybe she'd listen to you.
Maybe she'd be interested to talk to you.
Regarding Roswell, there's new information in my book, which I provided in a chapter, provided for me by a chap who was doing his national service in the Royal Air Force, and he and five of his colleagues were chosen to head a top-secret team to look after two aliens who were brought over from Roswell, at least from the Roswell incidents.
There were quite a number of incidents, quite a number of craft and bodies involved.
Actually, some were killed, some obviously survivors, two of whom got so pissed off with the way the Americans were treating them that they forced the Americans to take them to these two, one was the Royal Air Force Base and a Fleet Air Arm Base in Sunset, and they were there for 18 months one was the Royal Air Force Base and a Fleet Air Arm Base in Sunset, and they were there for 18 months being looked after by this top-secret team which was I know the guy, and he's kindly given the information to publish.
He was there, and it was quite a moving experience.
But they did eventually recover, and they were very good guys, and they gave a lot of information to the airmen, and their superiors, because, you know, the people in charge of the Air Force Base is working work, and getting them the information as well, obviously.
That went on for 18 months.
What race of beings?
Could you describe them?
I can show you sketches.
I mean, this would be in your book though, right?
No, I didn't do that because I wanted him to bring out his book first.
I published what he let me use.
It still wouldn't come out.
It's very interesting.
They weren't, if you want to know, they weren't that sort of blood-eyed.
And they were extremely gentle beings, highly telepathic, very kind, and fantastically knowledgeable.
Right.
Well, my understanding is they have the more roundish faces.
They look slightly humanoid, but not...
Well, as I said, I'll show you a sketch after I finish this.
I just wondered if they sounded like that.
Well, that's going to be, of course, ground-breaking for...
Many people are quite obsessed with Roswell.
They've never gotten over it.
They insisted on being brought over to the...
It's quite funny, actually.
The aliens were...
The two aliens were brought over in a Vulcan bomber, which went out to America to pick them up.
But the American transport plane...
Probably Hercules, something like that, brought their craft over, which wasn't that large.
I've got a sketch of that, too.
It wasn't warm enough, 13, 14 feet, something like that.
So, and they were dealt with this, it was a British team?
Yes.
Very interesting.
The Americans probably have a background.
Right.
When you say they're Americans, I mean, are you aware of sort of who's heading up the space program?
I mean, individuals?
Certainly not in the UK. In the US? No, in the United States, US Air Force Space Command is really in charge.
But what particular, any study we'd recognize, I mean, also heads of state, I mean, we were talking, I mean, for example, I don't know, Kissinger, you know...
Oh, Kissinger's been involved in the UFO thing since the 1940s, which I've got a feature on that in my book as well.
Okay.
He was in charge, as a matter of fact, with the alien situation from about 1946, maybe earlier.
Yes.
I mean, I don't even know if he's still alive.
I mean, I know he's walking around, but do we think that it's really him?
Well, I don't know what his thoughts are now, but he's a very bright fellow.
And he certainly was in charge of the AA program for many, many years.
Do you know who Bobby Ray Inman is?
I know him.
I mean, I knew him.
I exposed a lot of information that he gave out to my friend Bob Exler in one of my early books.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's still alive, isn't he?
Inman, yes, sure.
So I was just curious.
Deputy Chief of NSA. Yeah, he's quite high up there.
Well, I mean, it is very interesting.
We have also a secret contact who...
It's associated with James Jesus Angleton.
Are you familiar with that story?
Which story?
Well, the one that surrounds the death of Angleton and the fact that he had a whole lot of files that went missing that weren't in the hands initially of the CIA. There's a whole controversy about that and it's fairly well known by certain researchers.
Although, of course, there are a lot of rumors around that and what happened to the files and so on.
But there was certain information in those files that came out to us that indicated that, for example, Einstein was involved in the E.T. situation.
Might have been.
Yeah.
And that, you know, certain of these people were very involved in Roswell, for example.
And so I just wondered, since you've got a contact in that area?
All I know is that the people in charge of the nuclear developments took over the alien situation.
because it was subsumed into the nuclear situation.
Yes.
After the Second World War.
Okay.
By about 1950 it was all united.
So how do you feel about the Eisenhower meeting with the aliens?
I mean, I've heard many renditions of that.
There's a lot of new information in my book about that, thanks to our camera.
Oh, all right.
Yes, and I've spoken to Art, and we might try to get him on camera as well.
We should.
Yeah, yeah.
We've been speaking to him over the years, and he's very...
Eisenhower, I would say, probably had about four meetings with the aliens.
Some of that's been confirmed.
Officially, if you like, by a guy who worked in certain places, I've forgotten his name now, but he's in the book.
That information came out a couple of years ago.
Very interesting.
Yes.
Well, and some important sort of Side notes that have to do with sort of obviously the famous warnings that he made about where things were going with the National Security State.
I mean obviously it's proven quite true, or that was prophetic.
So with the NSA and obviously the Snowden Disclosures that are coming out, but these are things that have been well known in certain circles long before Snowden came out with them.
Are you familiar with the Promise Software story?
No.
What about artificial intelligence and its role, quite possibly, in the NSA, for example?
Alright, so nobody's come forward to even talk about that.
Have you had anybody talking to you about Pine Gap?
At all?
On several occasions, yeah.
For example, did they say to you things like, it's used as a vacation place?
Have you heard that?
No.
I know it's sort of strange, but that's what they say.
I guess for the ETs that are here on Earth...
There's been some very good remote viewers who've got a lot of information which turned out to be accurate about time.
Have you used remote viewers in your work?
No.
No?
How do you feel about remote viewing?
Something very good.
Yeah, I would say so.
Some misleading information in the area coming out, I would say.
Probably orchestrated, obviously, by the agencies.
Okay, I know we're going here for a while, and I don't want to keep you too long because you're going to be on stage shortly.
I can tell you that people would be very excited by this interview.
They would be very interested to look into your work as a result, and I'm glad for that.
I appreciate that you've taken the time.
I'd like to ask you, though, before we close this down, whether or not there are any particular areas that you feel, you know, just given the idea that you're here on camera and you can be speaking to a very large audience here in the world who are interested in these subjects, is there anything special that you would advise them to be aware of?
Areas to look into?
Specific, you know, cautionary notes?
There are so many that I couldn't possibly highlight.
There are many issues that I've covered in my new book.
I know that's a get up, but that is a fact.
Alright, fair enough.
So we will definitely have your book on the screen so that people can look into it, find out more.
I am interested, did you ever testify for the Citizens' Hearing on Disclosure that Stephen Bassett organized?
Did they invite you?
Yes.
They did?
And why didn't you choose to?
Because I prefer to be independent.
And I didn't think it would really yield to it.
I could see the Washington Post come cracking down on it, and of course they did, because they weren't acting congressmen, as I recall.
I have, however, done research, official research, for several, one senator and two congressmen.
And I was officially involved in that.
The last person I worked for was Steve Schiff, who I had a great deal of admiration for.
And he died in very unusual circumstances.
There you go.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
Well, obviously you're a great resource for these people.
You know, you've done a tremendous amount of work over the years.
And I've certainly been aware of your work for many, many years.
So, well, thank you very much.
Thank you for your service to humanity.
Thank you.
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