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Jan. 16, 2014 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: MELANIE VRITSCHAN RE COVERT HARASSMENT
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Thank you.
Thank you.
There's also something about, I guess, a transcript on my website.
If you go to the front page and you look for the article that announces this We're also going to be broadcasting this on YouTube right after it is broadcast here on live stream for those of the people that are going to not be able to tune in live.
The people that tune in live are going to be able to put their questions in the chat and I ask you if you can put them in all caps and that helps me Speed read through there and find the questions and separate that from the chat.
So welcome, Melanie.
Hello, Terry.
Thank you for being here.
And very glad that you're able to make it and that we're able to get a broadcast here that we can hear and see.
It was a little dicey in the beginning there.
So at this moment, please explain the organization that you're with.
And your role, and from there we'll go into your story.
Yes, so I wrote for an anonymization that is called the European Collision Against Paltier Act, UKETCH.org.
And it's an organization that we have founded in June 2013 in Stockholm, in fact, which comprises four founding members.
A doctor, physician, a lawyer, Dr.
Helen Witte, our director, speech activist, Magnus Olsen, and myself, and I take care of the public relations and the events management, and informing the public Okay,
I'm going to pause you here because at my end I'm getting some audio interference.
I'm going to ask the people in the chat if If they can hear it clearly.
What we may have to do is close down your video to get a better audio if it's using too much energy from your computer.
I hope that's not the case, so I'm hoping we can get a response.
I can see and hear you very clearly.
Okay, they're saying you sound muffled.
Okay, so let's try it without the video for a moment and or, you know, for a few minutes and see how that goes.
Okay, I will switch my camera real often.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, so at this time what we are doing is we are Are going to be trying this without video to see if we can get a better signal from Melanie.
Melanie, go right ahead.
So you just explained the organization.
Can you briefly just say the name again because I think the sound was difficult.
Okay.
European Coalition Against Coverage Harassment.
Newcatch.org.
Okay.
So, yeah, so this Our main focus is actually to lobby the European institution for a total ban on weapons that are operating on new physics principles which are used to torture or inflict full inhumane or degrading treatment Including
electronic weapons, electromagnetic weapons, magnetic weapons, directed energy weapons, nanotechnology, influence weapons, as well as chemtrail aerial weapons and high-frequency active or high-altitude ultra-low-frequency weapons and information technology weapons.
So, we, I mean, at least two of our founding members, one is also myself, we are actually victims of non-consensual implantation and experimentation that is done on us without doubt in fact.
And so, we're not alone.
There are thousands and thousands of victims of new technologies in the European Union and beyond.
So we decided to get together this summer, last summer I should say, and start this organization to totally ban these new physics torture weapons in the open room.
Okay, we are having some trouble here still with the sound, but we're going to have to make do with this, I'm afraid.
I'm not sure how to make this better.
At this time, do you happen to have a Skype phone?
No, I'm not.
It's okay.
No problem.
All right.
Well, at this moment, we'll just continue and do the best we can.
Some people are saying it is harder to hear or understand.
It is a little muffled.
There's some kind of an echo going on at your end.
As far as I can tell, but at this moment, let's launch into what happened to you, and we'll try to also get a written transcript of this interview done.
Okay.
Yes.
What happened to me is, in fact, just before Christmas, the day before Christmas, I had, in fact, submitted a request to the Levy Committee, the Levy Committee in the European Parliament, the committee for civil liberties,
justice and home affairs to request that we, UKEC and our legal and technology experts would get a hearing with the committee to present our results because in collaboration with another organization,
I'm also a member of the International Center Against Abuse of Cover Technology, we have tested There were 14 victims of cover technology in a controlled environment here in the Faraday cage.
When we did these measurements in the research facility in Belgium, they came up positive in the controlled environment in the Faraday cage for radio frequency emissions.
We also had a control roof and this control roof, the measurements were negative.
So, we have scientific proof that this group of people that came out from all over the world, we had also, I think, two Americans, people from Israel and various European countries, that came out positive in the controlled environment,
and we have scientific, absolute proof that these people have been experimented on, implanted, without their consent, with Nanotechnology weapons, because these are really weapons.
So I had to request that just before Christmas, before everybody, you know, the members of the European Parliament go on holidays, to have a hearing on these issues, beginning of this year, with the aim, of course, that we would, you know, achieve ultimately a total ban of these new physical torture weapons in the European Union.
What then happened to me is, you know, happened just a few days later on the 30th of December.
I had at the time over the holidays, I had actually a friend staying here who came from Canada, which is actually Spanish.
And we came home from actually New Year's Eve shopping.
I had people coming to my home for New Year's Eve.
And when we arrived, you know, our hands full of, our arms full of Shopping bags.
We had quite a lot of shopping.
When we arrived in the entrance hall, three policemen, Belgian policemen, honed in on us, really like we would apprehend a criminal.
Two men, one woman, and started to shout very loudly, state your name, state your name, state your name.
And I turned around.
I was very shocked.
And I asked them, well, you know, why?
Why do you want to know my name?
What is going on?
And they said that, you know, I should not speak, I should just answer the question, what was my name?
And very quickly proceeded to separate us.
There was one blonde police officer, a rather copulent statue, who pushed my friend towards the mailboxes, so she could not see or hear what was going on.
And the other one, Melanie, what I would like to do, I'm sorry to interrupt you here.
The sound does not seem to have improved without the video and I think the video will help people to understand if they can see you, you know, talking at the same time.
So, could you turn your video back on?
Let's see if that helps.
You can go through very clear here.
Okay, let's see.
Okay, so here I am back.
Okay, there's a delay over here, so wait one moment.
Okay, much, much better.
So go right ahead and let's hear you continue your story.
So you say that...
Your friends were pushed into the mailboxes, if I understood?
Well, my friend was separated.
My friend pushed her towards the mailboxes, and I was taken into the living room that actually separates the entrance from where the lift is with the other two.
And they never showed me a warrant.
They had some papers there, but it went all very quick.
And the woman said rather aggressively, state your name, state your name, again.
So I did.
And then they said to me, well, by order of the King's prosecutor, who will take you to an immediate psychiatric exam.
And I said, but why?
Why this exam?
I don't agree, you know.
And they were very quick to handcuff me.
And took me towards their car.
And my friend saw, you know, when we came out, she saw that, you know, I had handcuffs on, and I tried to still, you know, understand what was going on.
And they pushed me into their car, and said to me, I should not speak, and I should not ask any questions.
The only question that they had for me was if I would authorize my friend to have the keys to my house.
Which I, of course, authorized because she was a guest in my house.
We then drove to one of the major university hospitals in Brussels.
They inquired the address on the way, so they said they didn't really know where to take me.
But the police officer who drove said very loudly, oh, for the This arrest, where should we take, you know, the apprehended arrest?
So it really sounded like they were arresting, you know, one of the worst criminals.
And I was still trying to understand what was actually going on, and they said, well, you know, I don't know the file, I don't know, you know, what's going on, but I will inform the prosecutor that you did not comply.
To his request.
Well, and I then said to them, well, you know, it seems normal to me that if you come to my home and handcuff me and take me to a full psychiatric exam, that I would at least be informed, you know, on what grounds.
And they said, well, you know, you're going to be disgusted with the psychiatrist.
So, yeah, we then arrived in the hospital and the admission procedure took about 15 minutes and I stood still handcuffed with the female officer holding my hand rather, or my arm rather firmly, you know, at the reception and then we could go on in and we came into the office of the psychiatrist who, you know, said, okay, By which the office left.
And so he said, you know, do you know why you're here?
And I said, well, I have no idea.
You know, I was hoping that you would tell me some, you know, give me some explanation.
And he said, well, you know, I have to do an admission exam with you to, you know, to commit you to this psychiatric university.
And I said, oh, well, I'm very surprised that this is about an admission, because I was just told when I was, you know, taken handcuffed from my home, that this was just about an exam.
And then he proceeded to ask me, you know, a little bit about my life, what I was doing, and I explained that I had been working until 2011, that I had been working for a program of the European State Agency,
And then, unfortunately, I am now on disability because I had been a victim of non-consensual implantation, that this might be part of an international study, that this all was proven, signed by two doctors, one neuroscientist that confirmed that this test, the results of this test, were absolute proof that the victims we tested were implanted against their consent.
And I explained to him all this, and I thought that then he looked a little bit, he looked a little rather unsure.
And at least, you know, And then he started to ask me about my private life.
I said I have a son.
He asked always to be with you.
I said no, he's on vacation with his father.
And then he started to ask about my symptoms.
And I pointed out that I have mostly physical symptoms, which are typical symptoms we find.
In victims of electronic terrorism, which is electrical shock sensation, pain all over the body all the time, especially excruciating headaches, a reigning ear, you know, like tinnitus, you always hear a sound.
And in my case, I could show him, which I actually have a doctor's certificate that I have been confirmed, that I have surgical scars behind my ears.
Where I've never done any surgery to my ears, at least not any to which I consented.
So, which he did not contest.
He said, yeah, this is indeed surgical.
And then he said, well, you know what?
Well, the symptoms you described, he said, well, these are symptoms that we usually find in people that suffer from paranoia, from a paranoid disease.
Which I thought that was a joke because I really, you know, very clearly stated that symptoms are mainly physical.
And then you said, well, do you think you could be paranoid?
Which is rather odd, a psychiatrist, you know, asking you, you know, do you think you're paranoid?
To which I said, well, I'm not.
And then he said, well, you know, what I could already offer you now is that you stay a few days in the hospital to calm down and to relax.
Yeah, and I said, well, would this be an option?
To which I replied, well, it would not be, because I'm neither stressed nor nervous, nor, you know, in any kind of delusional stage that would require that I would be committed or stay in hospital.
So, okay, as this didn't work then, he said to me, well, Okay, well, what I have to do now, I have to go and call your physician and make a couple of phone calls, which he did, and then we have to wait for the decision.
He just called my GP, and Ru totally confirmed that everything I said was correct, that I had indeed participated in this international study, that I was victimized by covered technology against my consent, And yeah, so he basically confirmed everything I had told him.
And the three police officers then came back in.
I had to almost beg that I could go to the toilet.
They said, well, you know, it's going to take not very long.
The doctors are just going to have to do a couple of phone calls.
So we're going to wait.
I assisted them.
So finally, they took me, they escorted me to all three of them to the toilet, you know, as if I was like, you know, a maniac that took, you know, three guys, so to speak.
And when we came back, they started to say very odd things like, well, you know, the lady that is in your house, she's like a caregiver or a nurse?
Oh, nurse.
And she never told them she was a nurse or caregiver or anything like that.
And we just said, well, no, she's not.
And the female officer then said, well, I understood it as well, that she was something like caregiver or nurse.
I said, no, she's not.
And then the brown-haired officer said, well, is she from Canada?
Is she from Quebec?
And I thought to myself, well, how can he know she's from Quebec?
I've never mentioned to them that my friend is from Canada.
She's not from Quebec.
She is indeed from Canada, but she's Spanish.
But I don't know if you know the...
Canadian terminologist, Elysian, Belgian, I'm in contact with him, Nicolas de Sermont, because he wrote a very, very interesting article about harassment techniques, about all this kind of what we call gang stalking, organized stalking and harassment techniques.
And he is indeed Quebec, he's indeed Canadian.
They were silent.
They did not reply.
And the doctor stepped in by then, stepped back in, and said, well, you know, okay, I've spoken to your physician.
I would like you to give me your number, your home number, because I would like to check that there's really somebody with you, that you're not alone.
I got to my phone, saying, I'm not sure that my friend will reply, because, you know, she's staying with me.
That you will take the phone, let's say.
But, you know, here's the number.
He stepped out.
And he waited for another, you know, few minutes, maybe 20 minutes, half an hour.
By which then the doctor came back and said, well, you can leave.
And then the blonde officer, the rather That had separated my friend from me when they apprehended me.
Doctor, can I see you for two minutes?
Can we step outside?
Can I see in private?
They stepped outside.
I did not hear what the conversation was, but I heard the doctor saying a couple of times, no, no, no.
And, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And then came back in, and so the doctor then said to me, you can really go.
You can go.
I took all my bags, remember?
I had a lot of luggage.
I had all my shopping bags with me still, because they had no time.
You know, it was in such a rush to put me into their police car.
But yeah, I had a lot of luggage.
So when they escorted, all of them escorted me to the exit.
The psychiatrist gave me his card, and I then asked the police officer, this was rather far out, it was in the north of Brussels, it's really not close to where I live.
I asked police officers if they at least could take me back, to which they replied that they had other things to do, and I should make a taxi.
Which I did.
It cost me 30 euros for the ride, just to get back home.
And when I came home, I found my friend really, you know, very, very shaken up.
She was rather shocked.
And she said, I can't understand, like, something like this can happen, you know, what was going on.
I thought, I came to Europe to, she herself is also a victim, to see a little bit of this harassment.
In Brussels, in Europe, it's even worse than in Canada.
That's what she said to me.
And the next day, she said, well, I'm ready to testify to what I've seen, because this is really, you know, this is outrageous.
And the next day, Oh, she said that she had met my neighbors who tried to know a little bit what was going on.
They said, you know, what are they doing with Miss Richard?
I mean, how come they take her into custody to a psychiatric exam?
Well, there are so many women actually running with them.
And, you know, it would link to her activity, her, you know, human rights defending activity.
And my friend said, yeah, I think so.
She is fighting for something.
Which is maybe not easy to explain, but they had actually understood already what this was about.
My fight was about.
And they said, well, this is really great.
And I met them the next day here on the floor.
And they spontaneously offered to write me their testimony.
And what they actually said is that before they apprehended me, Downstairs, you know, when we entered the building, the police had actually already been up here, and they were trying to break in my door like crazy.
But then I made an enormous noise, so that was what actually alerted my neighbors, who then came out to see what was going on.
And which made me understand then a little bit better the comment one of the officers made whilst we were waiting for the psychiatrist to come back.
Because he said to me, well, on top of it, you have put three locks on your door.
To which I said, well, there are three locks on your door.
I understand now why he made this comment, because they had been already up here trying to break the door in, which didn't work.
But my neighbor came out and said, well, you know, what is going on?
What are you doing?
And they said, well, you know, I know she's there.
We're hearing music, which is, sorry, totally rubbish because I was not in the apartment.
And he said, well, I don't think she's there because she's not answering.
They said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she is there.
She just doesn't want to answer.
Which my neighbor said, well, you know, go gently because she has a child, which, you know, seemed to...
Make them, you know, a little bit, calm them down a little bit at least.
And the truth is that they damaged my door.
I photographed, you know, the damage.
There are strokes in the door.
With their attempt, unsuccessful attempt, to break in.
So this is what happened to me on the 30th of December.
Just before New Year's Eve and I personally suspect, I suppose, that it had something to do with the request for the hearing in the European Parliament that I had just sent a few days before.
I was about to ask you if you filed charges or anything of that nature against unlawful arrest or made complaints or had somebody file anything or put something in your local newspaper or any of that sort of thing.
Yes, so indeed my lawyer is at the moment looking into this because first of all we need to find a little bit more out more about this incident.
Normally the procedures if something like this happens and the police told me that this is an emergency procedure it's not I must say the normal procedure to actually commit someone or drive somebody to look at them that you think you know might be The only reason that this could be required or could be in any case justified,
at least within the law, is if you are either post a threat to yourself or to anybody you know in your surrounding, which both, in my case, is fairly negative, the answer.
So we have to find out.
But in my case, it was an emergency procedure.
It's like, you know, as if I was basically in my home, ready to pull the trigger.
And my neighbor actually said to me, by the way they were like bouncing on your door and trying to, you know, kick it in, we were, my wife and I, we were thinking that you were lying, you know, in your apartment, almost dead.
So that's at least how it looked.
There was certainly absolutely no ground to apprehend me in this way and certainly not by this emergency procedure and handcuffed.
So my lawyer is currently looking into this.
She will request, of course, more information.
We need to get at least the warrant because for this to be happened, That it can happen.
Actually, somebody has to denounce you, has to write to the prosecutor and say, well, this lady is a stretcher herself or to somebody else.
So we need to find out what actually happened.
Wow.
Okay.
I have at least already documented the damage to my door.
You know, I've taken the photographs.
Because what I must say, I'm not an exception there.
Many victims of covered technologies also experience illegal entries into their home, their property being ransacked.
This is also my case, for example.
There have been many, many triangles actually cut in my wooden floor, and this is only one of the numerous damage that has been done to my property.
So that is very clear.
That tells me that I have a clear interest in securing my home better, because there are these illegal entries into my home.
So I intend, Carrie, to Either request that this door is put in the state it was before it was damaged, or if this is not possible, I will request for a replacement of the door and I intend to ask the DeBrasse police for these repairs,
or if that's not possible, to at least have a more secure door To have some kind of indemnisation.
For the rest, I think we need to know a little bit more about what actually happened, on which grounds, who denounced me, and once we will know this, I will certainly also look into getting compensation for this.
Absolutely.
Okay, well, at this point, perhaps you can talk a little bit more about the...
I don't have his whole name, but his name is Peter, the person that you wanted me to broadcast.
Unfortunately, that broadcast is also hard to understand for Americans.
It's also muffled as well.
So I decided not to try to put it on here.
However, if you want to describe...
What he was saying and who he is.
Yes.
So I'm also a member of the major citizens' rights group in Belgium, of which Peter Bereke is indeed a leader.
He's the founder.
He's a former mayor.
And he's the founder of the citizens' rights group.
I was today, and this is why you see me dressed totally in black, actually I've just come back From his trial, he was put on trial because he sent emails to the Flemish Ministry of Health about the dangers of vaccination, especially for children, you know, the toxins that are put in these vaccines.
We also know that at least the victims of COVID technologies that we have scanned And that we usually scanned, when we asked them when the symptoms started, they usually explained to us that either they underwent surgery, and when they, you know, woke up from the surgery, the signs and symptoms that are generally associated with electronic terrorism suddenly started, or, and this is why I'm mentioning this, they had a vaccine.
So Peter expressed various emails And I think that's absolutely his right, you know.
His concerns, not only his concerns, but also of the whole, of thousands of members of the Balfour Group, this citizens' rights movement, about the dangers of the free.
What then happened is that he was suddenly informed that a high-ranking civil servant in the ministry had complained, had actually filed stalking charges.
Today he was on trial and he was facing, this is what the prosecutor asked, three months in jail for sending emails.
informing or requesting that the Ministry of Health considers this information.
Really?
Yes.
So that is what they requested three months in jail.
I'm sorry.
I just want to stop you there because, so what you're saying is that, and please understand everyone, that Melanie is in Brussels, Belgium, and all of this has happened in Belgium, in Brussels, and you are now talking about Peter, how do you say his last name?
Peter Vareka.
Vareka?
Yes.
Okay, that he has just, you've just come back from sort of a, would you call it a press conference?
It was a trial.
A trial.
Okay, and it sounds like this is not a democratic country, this Belgium.
And I visited there not long ago, and I was the speaker, and I'm very shocked to hear that a person who writes emails warning about vaccines could actually be arrested for doing so, a concerned citizen.
So now when you write to your government, you can be arrested?
That sounds more like a communist country.
Has Belgium become a communist country?
I don't know about a communist country, but we really have to ask various serious questions about the democratic values going on here in this country.
Belgium is not the only European country where this has to be seriously questioned.
Also, we should never forget our role as public for democratic oversight.
Of our politicians and what they're actually doing.
So I was indeed very shocked.
We were there.
200 members of the Belport Citizens' Rights Group turned up.
We were all dressed in black because this is indeed, Kerry, a very sad day for democracy.
If, you know, a leader of the Citizens Right Group can be put on trial and faced jail just for sending emails, you know, warning about the dangers of vaccines.
Wow, that is just, that's very shocking.
That's a terrible turn of event.
So you're saying that the courts in Brussels issued a, I don't know what you call it, but they basically must have issued some kind of an arrest warrant to this man and made him go to trial to fight these charges?
Yes, they tried a stalking charge.
It was not a Brussels port, it was in Ghent, you know, it's a major university town.
He actually sent these emails to the Flemish Ministry of Health, because, you know, in Belgium it is the, you know, separated, you've got Bolonia and you've got flounders, And Brussels is something special in the middle because it's officially bilingual.
So this was the Flemish part.
So we were in Ghent today and indeed this is what happened.
Incredible!
Emes saying that, you know, he and the whole Belfort group, we as citizens, are concerned about these dangers of the vaccines, especially for children.
And he just asked the authorities to look at this information and to express and that he expressed, you know, actually he was the voice.
For thousands and thousands of citizens.
So, yeah, what then happened is that, as I said, suddenly a civil servant, high-ranking apparently, fired stalking exchanges that he was stalking.
The Ministry of Health, and I heard today, it was in Dutch, the trial was in Dutch, so my Dutch is not the best language I have, but I understood.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, stop right there.
We are having interference here again, so I think I'm going to have to, the screen has frozen.
Oh no.
Yeah, so hold on, let me see.
Okay, I'm going to stop this again and save it.
Okay, I believe we are live once again, and we are being interrupted here a couple of times with Melanie.
So Melanie, you were explaining, I believe that all of you were convened, that this was at the trial, and This is a rights activist who had just written emails about vaccines, the danger in vaccines, and he was then arrested and put on trial.
Am I understanding you correctly?
That is correct.
And facing three months in jail.
Three months in jail.
Okay.
That's what the prosecutor required or requested.
Incredible.
Okay.
Just absolutely.
And this was, he wrote the emails to the Ministry of Health in Is it called Gant or Flemish?
The Flemish.
Okay, apparently these people have become Nazis or communists or something and it's very unfortunate to hear.
As an American, of course, we are having some similar shocking events happen in this country, but I don't think, I believe that at the moment, writing emails is not a crime, especially when you are writing emails of concern and you are a human rights activist.
Okay, at this moment, so you said that someone showed up or something and some official...
200 people showed up, so the room was totally full.
Actually, his lawyer argued that what is actually on trial today is not a man who sent a few emails He's expressing his concern, and not only his, many citizens think the same way, of the dangers of a vaccine.
But what was actually on trial today, Kerry, is the freedom of expression.
That was on trial today.
So we, his lawyer, and we very firmly also requested that he would be acquitted on, you know, Of any charges, stalking charges or whatever, because he was just using his fundamental right of freedom of expression.
Absolutely.
We are awaiting the verdict on the 5th of February, but my personal impression was that it will not be the three months in jail that the prosecutor requested.
But I had the impression that the President, at least at the end, was still thinking of maybe at least giving him a symbolic condemnation.
But this should be worldwide news.
In other words, if a European country that is part of the European Union is acting in this way, then what we're talking about is there is no freedom of speech in the European Union.
That a human rights activist cannot write, or an individual even, cannot write to their organizations of government that are supposed to be serving them.
If you have a democracy and alert them to dangers in something like vaccines or other health concerns, this should be worldwide news, I would think.
Yes, I agree and I very much regret it.
That there was no press, and the press should be all over this, I agree with you.
But what we could maybe say is, well, it's a bit sweet, sour news, is that Peter is also fighting, actually, the chemtrails, you know, and that is why we agree very much, because UKEC is also asking for a total ban, at least the European Union on campfire, on campfire-era-soul weapon.
And he was recently interviewed by VRT, which is a major Flemish television channel.
And of course we thought, oh, that's great, you know, actually finally this is getting out and he's getting an interview.
But he told me that he had asked for one thing.
He said, okay, I'll accept this interview, but I do not want to be put again in the conspiracy corner, and I do not, you know, wish to have the word conspiracy there, and it all to be presented as a conspiracy.
And he was assured that this would not happen, that it would be a serious, you know, reportage, documentary on the Camp 12, you know, I ever pray.
And unfortunately, when the interview came out, it had conspiracy all over.
So that is very, very regrettable.
Oh, right.
Okay, so, but he did this interview on television before he was arrested for the emails?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay, yes.
Okay, so two of you at least are being harassed now in a very public way.
It's interesting that members of the European Union would behave in such a fashion.
You know, when you are public personas, perhaps they don't understand that you are.
It's not to their benefit to be Acting in this fashion, even if they have turned into sort of Nazis and basically changed the regime to a fascist regime in Belgium, then I think flaunting this is not a good thing for the country, certainly bad for their political relations with other European Union countries who may not agree with their position.
And this is very shocking, of course, to an American, to hear about freedom of speech being so, so threatened.
Okay, so at this moment, your organization is certainly getting a lot of publicity as a result of all of this.
Yes, that is true.
Actually, both.
But to Peter and myself, this is a, you know, The time to talk into psychiatry, actually, they have achieved the opposite of what they actually wanted.
They wanted to silence us, and now this is getting really a lot of publicity.
As you said, people have been outraged.
I've done, you know, one interview already with, you know, Dr.
Alfred Lameron Weber.
And I have, of course, you know, with my activity, I've contacted the Human Rights Watch, MSC International, and other human rights organizations, the World Organization Against Torture.
We went to see them, actually, in November, in Geneva.
So, and I've, of course, all informed them about what happened.
So this is actually now It created a snowball effect, I would say, that they did not wish this information to get out.
It's the total opposite, which has happened.
That was not a smart move.
I also wanted to react on your comment saying that they are actually turned into Nazis.
My personal, well, I don't want to speak about idol, but, you know, a person I very much respect is, you know, in the Hitler time, the students, I know the resistance movement, White Rose, Sophie Scholl, who was, you know, for distributing pliers in the Munich University, was arrested and killed, executed.
She is, for me, a personal, somebody I look up to.
I have the same values than this young woman.
And I must see, what I see now is that we are not very far, as you said, from the same spirit, unfortunately.
And also, Peter, at the end of this trial today, he was asked to have the closing words, you know, to defend himself.
And he also made reference to the White Rose.
I have read a book about the White Rose.
I think the book might have been called White Rose, I'm not sure.
But that was in the title, yes.
And I believe really we are at the moment.
This is why everybody has to band together now.
We have to inform the public.
And I also wanted to thank Terry for your good work.
I put this interview today to give me the platform to inform people about what is going on, because I believe we're really at the moment in a time where the danger that could turn into a really fascist regime is as great as it was in Germany in the 1930s.
Yes, I have to agree with you.
We have the same problems here in America.
I believe that hearing about it in, this is true in England, as well as the European Union.
I'm not sure if England considers itself part of the European Union, but technically I believe it is.
And so at this time, this is a very dangerous, you know, sort of atmosphere to be To be in as a person who cares about humanity and is working for humanity and for human rights.
Very dangerous times indeed.
Okay, well thank you so much for your testimony here today.
Now what I'm going to do is open it up for questions from the audience who are listening live and if there's anything else that you want to talk about, anything specific Whether it be about the implants, about the tests that you were doing, and some of the results, some of the findings that you feel might be interesting to people, then we can go down that road.
I'm just going to skim, if you give me one moment here, and see if there are any questions in the chat.
Okay, I guess somebody's asking, and this information we can also post on Camelot later, but Peter is a member of an activist group, is that right?
He's the founder of the Belgian group, which is a citizen's rights movement, the major one here actually in Belgium.
Okay, a Belgian citizen's rights group, which is called, which is concerned with what, any specific rights, or is it health oriented, or what?
Yes.
He's focused on the dangers of the vaccine and the chemtrails, or geoengineering, I should say.
So he has also organized a chemtrails symposium here in 2010.
So he was really a pioneer, waking people up, raising awareness for this time of these aerial strength.
Recently, last year, that was a success.
With the Bellford Group, we had the American film director, Michael Murphy, who came here to Brussels and showed in the European Parliament the movie, Why in the World Are Their Friends?
So there was a film screening here, and Peter was of course one of the speakers, and I was all excited.
Okay, so I just want to clarify with you.
I have this video that you sent me earlier, and since we are talking about Peter, I want to clarify that this is Peter.
He is among a group of people dressed in black.
And I'm just going to play a little bit of it, although it is fairly hard to understand.
So people can see him speaking briefly here.
Now I assume that is Peter, is that correct?
That is Peter and he says that whatever the verdict, actually after the trial we all met in a restaurant.
And that was just when he came in and he says, whatever the verdict is going to be, we will not stop to speak the truth and to fight for truth and for freedom.
Hello, Kerry and all you folks.
My name is Peter.
I'm living in Belgium.
Until 10 years ago, I was a perfectly normal civilian.
I was doing insurances.
I was the mayor of my city and then I started to ask myself questions and going into research of things.
To find out that everything I believed in was a hoax and that some threatening evolutions were ongoing.
So I quit everything and I became a full-time idealistic activist.
I founded a civil movement, a doctor group.
We have several items, chemtrails, vaccination, codex, mind control, all the stuff.
And today was an important day because there was a trial against me by the Flavish and the Belgian authorities because of my engagement concerning the vaccinations.
We make all kinds of emails to the responsible persons who draw their attention to the terrible attack we do, so to speak to the defense of the health.
Which is undermining the health in the most terrible way.
So for this activism I was attacked and fortunately there were about 200 people all in dark clothes in the locker room and they all stood, really stood behind me when I and my attorney defended our activism.
So now we are waiting for the verdict.
Okay, okay.
Well, so at least people can see what he looks like and see him speaking just briefly there.
We're going to try to get that clip translated for people, and then that will be very good, I think, if we can do that.
So, at this time, do you want to...
I don't think I have any...
Wait one second here.
Okay, do you know why you were electronically implanted and have been harassed by electronic harassment and possibly other means as well?
Well, I know that, in my opinion, they profile people before they actually implant them.
In my case, I think I looked at a promising subject because this is to come to some statistics here.
With the International Center Against the Use of Cover Technologies, from the people we scanned, there were 60% were women, a lot of single women that tend to be either isolated or widowed or divorced, 40% were men, and from all of the people that we scanned, in total, we had 83% came up positive.
So I myself happen to, I do not live in the country, you know, I'm actually German.
So I'm here in Belgium and Brussels.
I came here because I was offered a post, actually, as temporary agent.
That's why I arrived after my studies 20 years ago.
So I put the profile, I think, of a single woman living here in Belgium, no family support around me, financially independent, and I think that's what also made me an interested target, so to speak, because there's definitely something like attempts to actually de-own property of the victims.
So I bought my apartment, Of course, I pay back a mortgage.
I've never asked one euro to anybody.
So I think I was an interesting target in general.
I also, and we know that this research is actually, the objective of this research is to the creation of artificial intelligence.
Personally, I think I might have been chosen because I speak five languages.
So that would maybe be interesting to create, you know, on my brain, what they're actually doing is mapping my brain, and create maybe a computer or a robot that speaks all the language of I speak.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
So I think there are various reasons why I was targeting.
All right.
Well, let me see.
You are German descent, and because there is the aspect of bloodlines, I don't know if you've looked into this.
Yes.
And so this most likely is also something that works into all of this.
The people that you did the study on, I assume they came forward voluntarily?
Yes.
Most of the victims, basically all of the victims, turned to us.
That ask us for the testing, for the radio frequency scanning, which we do, we have charge, you know, as a service to the victim.
They do have symptoms.
They have symptoms.
They have symptoms.
I've just, you know, described, like electrical shock sensation, pain, current going through the body, muscle cracking, heart palpitations, ringing ears, some of them even, because with this technology, which is called voice-to-skull, it's even possible to beam audible commands.
You know, in a person's brain.
So they do have the symptoms.
But that brings me to the other point.
The people that we usually scan have the symptoms and most of them were positive.
They came out positive.
But I believe that many are actually already implanted.
Especially via these nanobots, via the chemtrails that fall to the lung and cross the brain barrier and do not have the symptoms.
I think there are many, many people.
I heard someone, I read somewhere that there was an estimate that 80% of the total population is already implanted.
When you say implanted, are you talking about physical implants as well?
Yes, I talk about physical implants.
The thing is that they are nanotechnology and the problem is that with our current medical imagery that we have available, like CT scans or MRI scans, For example, I'm a Morgellons victim, so it's a special technology that self-sounders and auto-replicates in your body, very advanced technology.
You cannot see that on an MRI scan or a CT scan, the medical imagery that we currently have available.
This is the reason why Dr.
John Hall, who's on our board, came up with this new forensic testing, actually testing people for radio frequency emissions in the controlled environment.
Okay, yes, absolutely.
Now, I believe it's Dr.
John Hall.
I've interviewed him a couple of times, and I think not so long ago.
Doesn't he have the website, which is called something like Sat...
SatWeapon.
SatWeapon.com.
SatelliteWeapons.com, something like that.
Yes, very interesting man.
And he's a, I believe he, is he a psychiatrist or a therapist or what is, he has a background, an academic background.
Mind Science Foundation, you know.
So that's true.
He's certainly not somebody that you can easily discount, you know, because, well, Peter said very rightly today in his trial, Peter Rake, that at first they ridicule you, and they also tried, like me, sentencing to psychiatrists, and they try to, you know, say that you're crazy, and at the end they criminalize you, which is, you know, changing ordinary citizens, law-abiding citizens, in some kind of front corner, you know.
Or, you know, come up with some kind of criminal charge.
That we're crazy, but Dr.
Hall is certainly not a person that we can easily discount.
Yes, absolutely.
Melanie, you also worked, didn't you work for the military in satellite, was it the satellite area?
I did not work for the military.
You will certainly know the satellite navigation program Galileo.
Galileo is worldwide.
It will be a worldwide system.
I worked for The precursor, if you want to know, it's called EGNOS. What's the precursor?
It's doing the same.
It can do the same thing as Galileo, but the coverage is different.
It's basically a European coverage.
So, yes, I did indeed work for a program, a GNSS program that was developed by the European Space Agency.
Okay, and how long did you work for them?
I worked for them for three years, by which then our Brussels office was closed and I was offered a very interesting position in Madrid to take care of the communications manager positions in Madrid.
But at the time, I was already implanted.
I was implanted when I had a surgery.
Well, I didn't know that at the time, but I turned it down for personal reasons because I was pregnant at the time, and had I gone to Madrid, I would have thought she wanted to take the father for my son.
Although the position was very interesting, I turned it down at the time.
Okay.
Well, simply because this is the kind of thing where you come under notice whenever you work for Space or, you know, aerospace, what we call aerospace or military, anything affiliated with them, they take special interest in those individuals, I believe.
So that also makes you something of a target afterwards.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I don't see any other questions at the moment.
Here.
People are asking me to hold a conference on this subject, and it's possible that I could do something of that nature.
It's very, very expensive to put on a conference in the real world, so to speak.
So I hesitate to do that at this time, but we'll see what happens perhaps in the future.
So is there anything else that you want to talk about in general or tell people how they can get involved?
Also, I think people from the United States might want to know if you're in touch with, say, a sister organization in the States that might be also involved in this.
Yes, so actually ISAC, the International Center Against the Group of Covered Technology, I've got very good news because we recently, in December, opened our testing facility in Sacramento, California.
So people that do have symptoms that, you know, The symptoms of electronic terrorism that think that this could have happened to them, that they could have been implanted against their consent, that they do have symptoms, can turn to us and we can now do the testing in this facility, in this new facility in Sacramento, California.
The phase one testing, which is basically a preliminary scan in an uncontrolled environment, but then also the phase three testing, which is then basically the scanning in a paradise cage again.
Which we've just done here in Belgium in this research facility.
So that's very good news.
We have just opened this facility.
It's brand new.
And especially, it's going to interest our American friends.
And we will also then, in Europe, we will build Friday cages as well.
We have to look into either building portable ones or, in any case, we will build them in Europe as well.
But you're lucky because in California it already exists to get tested there.
I do want to say that I have a friend who went through a TSA scanner at an airport, and I think he was maybe scanned under these very extensive scanning things, which I don't recommend by any means, but I think perhaps he was naive at this time.
But quickly got up to speed.
However, the camera picked up implants all over his body that he had no idea about on this TSA. So I would say that the TSA scanners are quite possibly scanning people for implants as well as for whether they're human or not, which is something we're aware of.
Yeah, yeah.
I also would like to say that with UKACH, because we're very, you know, actively lobbying the European institutions and the European Parliament to get this issue resolved, is that what we would ask people,
if you are a victim and you have the symptoms, you can apply for membership, and we're very happy if people give us a testimony, We have already collected many of these testimonies.
I've looked at them together with our director.
What I can tell you is that they are surprisingly similar, the stories that the victims tell us.
So it all seems to be happening according to some kind of script.
And I would very much encourage people to give us their story, their testimonies, because this is what is ultimately also going to help us to prove to the politicians and the members of the European Parliament that this is going on and something has to be done about it very quickly.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much, Melanie.
One last question here.
Someone is asking how can we protect ourselves online and otherwise?
And this is a very big answer, but do you want to sort of attempt to address that slightly?
Well, the problem is that what we know is that they're using several technologies.
In the 70s, they used more electromagnetic waves and now more scalar waves are used and ELF waves.
So these waves, unfortunately, there's no protection possible.
They go right through to the earth, you know.
So that's a very important question.
We're currently looking with UKH also into Shielding technologies, if there's any way to shield the victims from these assaults.
We also work, I think I mentioned that when we were on the radio a couple of weeks ago with Professor Konstantin Meim, who has done amazing work in the fields of scalar waves.
So hopefully we will find in the not-too-distant future a possibility for these shooting technologies.
But I'm not a technical expert, so we keep on looking for solutions.
If we find them, we would certainly Let everybody know.
Okay, well certainly not staying isolated is a very good approach.
Obviously you have a good support group and this is vital for anyone who is being harassed, I think.
And it also makes sure that your testimony and that you can't just be taken off the street or put into an institution or something of this nature.
So the more vocal you are, the more people you connect with, Organizations that you're part of that are activists or human rights oriented will also protect you, I think, in some ways because there is a natural protection of people in numbers.
And there is also a psychic protection that is created, a field, a resonant field such as we are creating here when we are speaking with Melanie, is all part of what we are doing, humanity, to turn this thing around.
And there are also some meditative techniques that you can use surrounding yourself with white light and so on, activating kundalini energy and other sort of techniques that can be taught that will help to some degree.
In my own experience, and I have also been, I'm very sensitive to incoming, outgoing waves and things of that nature.
There's a certain natural screening that happens It doesn't mean that it may not get through, but on a certain level you can use your mind to turn it around.
You can actually work on that.
It's something you can develop.
Melanie, any last words?
Because we've been keeping you for quite a while here and I want to thank you and the people in the chat want to thank you for your testimony and for your good work in going public with all of this You have to be a very courageous person to do so, and we want to thank you for that.
So, any parting words that you might like to say here?
Well, I would like to address the victims of these technologies, and I agree with you, Carrie, it's very important that you do not stay alone, you know, and isolated, because this is what they want.
They want to isolate and discredit you.
So, you know, don't despair.
We're working on solutions and I think, you know, there's powers in numbers and, you know, banding together and speaking of one voice and defending our rights together will ultimately bring this to an end.
I'm 100% sure.
Do not give up.
Do not hesitate to contact us at UKET or ISA Act if you want to get tested.
Tell us your story because I agree with you that what I've done today is actually protecting me because silence does not protect the victims.
It's the opposite.
So do not remain silent about this assault.
That is going on on you and do not despair because there is help is on the way and solutions will be found.
Wonderful.
Thank you very much.
So I encourage everyone to go to her website.
The website, can you give it out again?
Spell the letters for people and it is also on the front of my website but for people as they listen to this.
Yes, so it's I-C-A-C-H dot org, and ICAACT dot org, so I-C-A-A-C-T dot org.
Okay, excellent.
Contact information, contact email, so if you want to get in touch with me or Anybody of us directly, please do.
Alright, and we would also like you to stay in touch with us and let us know what happens with Peter's verdict that comes in in February.
Please do get back in touch with me at that time.
Okay, I will do.
Okay.
Thank you very much for this interview and all your good work.
It's okay.
Thank you.
Alright, you take care.
Yeah, you too.
Okay, bye-bye.
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