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May 15, 2013 - Project Camelot
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SUPER SOLDIER SUMMIT PROMO EVENT
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Hi there, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and tonight we're doing a special event, which is a promo for the Super Soldier Conference, which is called Super Soldiers and Mind Control.
I believe.
And we've got several women here with us today.
And actually, Lorian Fenton, who is the organizer of this event, it's going to be held in Henderson, Nevada.
Yes.
I think it's Nevada.
Is it Nevada?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, this is Carrie.
And hey, by the way, thanks for pulling this together for us.
It's really a privilege to be on your show.
And I just wanted to say, you're one of the women of the Super Soldier Mind Control Conference.
Yes.
So, you know, I thought it was fitting that we all did it on your show this way and get the girls in here and give everybody's perspectives on it.
You know, how these things have happened to them.
And Carrie, I don't know if you know this, but I had a super soldier experience myself.
And I'm going to be talking a little bit, just for a brief second, about that at the summit.
But that is exactly why I got so, let's say, passionate about helping these guys out.
And I know that you've known about them for a long time.
And if you don't mind, I'd like to tell my story here on the air so you can hear it because it involves you as well.
Okay, fair enough.
I'm happy.
You might like to know that.
Okay, well that's very interesting.
But before you launch into that...
If you'd like, maybe I'll just start out with my story.
Mine's a very short story and then you can go into asking all the other people about their experiences or whatever you'd like to do.
But one second, before we do that, let's announce who's on the call with us because I think people will be wondering...
So if each person perhaps can, let me see, I'm going to try to get, Lori, and you know the names better than I, but I see that we've got, or I think we've got, Alara Blackwell.
And Alara, I'm not sure I'm saying your name right.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Okay, and weren't you on the Super Soldier, sort of, I had this kind of live stream event one time with the other Super Soldiers at that time, I think it was a year ago.
Weren't you on that group?
Yes, I was.
Okay, very good.
Just want to make sure.
And I'm not sure how you say this.
Myesha Johnston?
Is Myesha there?
Yes.
Misha Johnston.
Misha.
Misha Johnston.
Misha.
Okay.
Thank you, Carrie.
Okay, very good.
Excellent.
And let me see, who else do we have here, Lorian?
Because I've only got a couple names.
Solaris Blue Raven.
So, Laura, are you there?
Yep, I sure am.
Okay, wonderful, because the list got changed kind of halfway through, so I tried to update everything.
And is Melinda Leslie here, or no?
Yes, I'm here.
Oh, wonderful.
Okay, hello, Melinda.
Yes, this is Melinda.
Hi.
Hi.
Thank you for having me.
Absolutely, and I've been trying to get you on my show for quite some time, so this will at least be a start.
That's right.
There you go.
Okay, wonderful.
Now, I wanted to let everyone know that we also have live stream going simultaneous with the show.
So that if for any reason you would like to be on the live stream portion of this, I mean, they're going to hear you anyway, but you can also have video.
I mean, if you want to be on video, I know that people listening would appreciate it.
Sometimes it's nice to have a picture to go with the words.
So right now I'm putting sort of the post or the announcement of this event on the live stream screen so people can see it.
But if anyone wants to add video to their Skype, we can give it a try.
I'm not saying it's going to work, but we can try that.
But otherwise, you know, if we do have problems, let's go back to just radio and We don't want to throw this whole thing off.
So with that said, did we leave anybody out?
No, I think we're all here, Carrie.
Excellent.
Okay, very good.
And now, Lorian, you're absolutely welcome to tell your super soldier story.
Oh, great.
Well, this involves Awaken Aware 2011.
I was down there, I had a table there, and I was representing about three or four different speakers in the UFO community.
And I'd also started looking for people to be at the UFOCon, which I produce with Brian William Hall who produces ConspiracyCon and it was our first ever event in 2012 so I thought I'd go down and check out everybody at the conference and see if there's somebody new or different that I'd like to have at UFOCon and at the same time promote some speakers and authors and just see if Carrie and Bill were interested at the time
in talking to these people.
So anyhow, I went down there, and it was a great weekend, by the way.
It was one of the best conferences I've been to, Carrie, in a long time.
And I'm sitting in the room on Friday night when Axe and Duncan...
We're talking about their experiences, and I think it was the first time that Axe had ever been on a stage, if I remember correctly.
And she said something, and I about fell off my chair, and I didn't realize that everybody else in the room...
I looked around.
Here's what she said.
She said, I hear screaming in the back of my head all the time.
And I looked around the room and nobody's reacting.
And I'm thinking to myself, well, doesn't everybody have screaming in the back of their head all the time?
I have.
You know, and I thought everybody would be...
Flabbergasted or, you know, appalled or their mouths would drop open or something would happen, but nothing happened.
And I'm just sitting there going, oh my God.
And I couldn't believe it.
Now, I want to preface this with, I also brought to the conference with me, A. Solaria Liberalis, who had been interviewed on your show earlier that year in April or May.
And her and I became friends because of that interview, and she wanted to be down there just to say hi to you as well.
And I believe she did at the time.
Anyhow, after hearing Duncan and Miranda act...
Speak on Friday night.
I was kind of blown away and something was off and I was kind of like, whoa, this is so bizarre.
I don't know what's going on.
And she kept saying to me, Ace Alaria, kept saying, I want to meet them.
I really want to talk to them.
They've got the answer to something I'm looking for.
And I'm like, no, no, I don't want to talk to them now.
But, at the same time, what was really odd is that I had thought to myself, maybe I should try to do some kind of workshop or conference for these guys, because they really seemed to be beaten up.
I had just watched the Aces with Miles Johnston, by the way.
Miles will be flying in from England for this conference, everybody.
Wow, that's awesome.
Yeah, great chance to meet Miles.
And I know you and Miles have a lot in common, Carrie, because you both do a lot of videography.
And so that'll be great.
But I had just watched some of the Basis series with Barry King, James Casbold, a.k.a.
Michael Prince, quite a few of those people.
And so when I went down there, I was kind of thinking, oh, you know, maybe there's something I could do for these guys.
It was always kind of in the back of my head.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I picked on that group of people in particular.
So when I saw Duncan that night, and then when Axe said what she said, then my body just kind of went into shock and thought, you know what, I don't want anything to do with these guys.
But by Saturday, now I had a chance to sleep on it Friday, so by Saturday I'm thinking, eh, maybe, you know, just maybe I'll say something.
I don't know.
We'll see.
So I finally got up enough nerve to go talk to...
Aaron McCollin was there with his wife, and they're a great bulldog.
I love him to pieces.
And I went up to them and I said, hey, why aren't you speaking here?
And he said, well, Duncan and I are having a thing.
And I said, oh, that's cool.
I completely understand.
And I said, hey, if I ever put on a workshop or a one-day thing for you guys, would you be interested in that?
I said, because that's what I do.
I don't know if you know this, Carrie, but I have a 25-year background of putting on conferences and art events and music and dance festivals and things like that.
So this is something new to me, but it was a whole new field because I had gotten very sick in 2009 and almost died.
And I thought, you know what, I'm just going to do what I love.
I'm not going to do what the forces make me do anymore.
I'm going to do what I want to do.
Putting on these kind of UFO conferences and things was just, you know, it was kind of thrown at me in this way.
So I was thinking about branching out, maybe doing the super soldiers.
Thank God I was naive, Carrie, because, God, if I didn't even know what I was putting myself into, I would never have even opened my mouth and said a word.
And so they said, yeah, yeah, you know, we do it.
And I said, well, can you and Duncan get along well enough to be on stage together?
And they're like, yeah, we could do that.
You know, we'll just sit at one end and he sits at the other and everybody will be fine.
And I said, okay, I'll think about it.
You know, I said, I'd probably do something like that for you guys.
And so anyhow, that's how that day progressed.
That was Saturday.
A Saturday night, now here's another little tidbit I gotta throw in to everybody.
When Ace Solari and I first met on the phone back in June, it was one of our first, second, third or fourth phone calls, a helicopter appeared over my house and it was hovering about 100 feet over my house.
Now, I did not hear it get there.
It was just there.
And it was loud.
And it was circling with its, you know, it's pointing downwards and circling in a circle around my house.
And I'm like, I didn't even hear that thing coming.
You know, it was just so odd.
I sent my roommate out to look at the color because I couldn't really tell.
I could just see it circling around out of the window here.
And I said, go out and make sure that it's not dark green or, you know, what color it is.
And he comes back and says, it's black.
And I went, oh, great.
And she's hearing it on the phone.
Okay, so this happens months before I go down to your conference.
So then at the conference Saturday night at three o'clock in the morning after I left there and And, oh, I forgot to tell you this part.
Okay, Saturday night, I'm trying to leave the conference and not talk to Duncan or Miranda.
And we sneak out the backside of the corner of the building thinking we're going to escape to my car.
And the whole time, A. Solari is going, I want to talk to Duncan and Miranda.
I want to talk to him.
And I'm like, no, I don't want to talk to him tonight.
We'll talk to him tomorrow.
And sure enough, we get around the corner and they're standing there smoking cigarettes and we run right into them.
So she starts talking to Duncan and I start talking to Miranda and I said to her, you know, when you said the screaming in the back of your head, I said, do I want to know about this?
You know, that's been going on my whole life up until a year and a half ago.
And she went, maybe you don't go on now.
And I said, you know, you're probably right, I don't.
And that was the best advice anybody had ever given me, I've got to tell you, and you'll hear why in a couple minutes.
And I said to Duncan, I said, if I do a conference for you guys, would you be able to get along with Aaron long enough to do something like that?
And he said, yeah, I could probably do that.
I said, okay, good, fine, whatever.
So now the story, back to the story of the helicopter.
So six months before that, the helicopter was over my house, and then that night, Saturday night, after I spoke with Duncan and Aaron, and everybody's asleep in the house we're staying at, they're in Anaheim, a helicopter, again, is over the house, did not hear it get there, and it's circling the same way.
Now, the car alarms are going off.
Dogs are barking.
Lights are going on.
I have two windows to look out of.
I'm looking out of the left window, and I see all this commotion going on in the neighborhood.
It's 3 o'clock, and I'm thinking, oh my god, it's like you have the whole neighborhood.
What's going on?
Are they searching for a convict?
What?
And I look out the window.
Well, I finally got enough nerve to look out the other window.
And as I look out the window, all I see are three...
Glowing red lights in an ember.
It looks like embers burning in a fire.
That kind of glow.
And they're in a triangle shape.
And that's all I see.
And it's stationary.
It's not moving.
Yeah.
and I see three triangle lights and they're not moving and they were very low carry.
It wasn't like they were way up in the sky.
This thing was probably 250 feet in the air from what I can tell, maybe 300.
And I could see the outline of the triangle but my mind instantly went, oh my God, it's a triangle spacecraft.
Where's the helicopter?
So I slowly back up, and then I walk forward again to the window, and I'm looking out, and it's gone.
And I could hear the helicopter take off at that point.
Now, a minute and a half or two minutes have gone by.
There's lots of noise and, you know, just all kinds of stuff going on.
And my mind is just not working right now because I'm looking out the window.
I'm seeing three triangle lights, but there's supposed to be a helicopter out there and it's not there.
So I'm just, I'm miffed.
I'm totally in shock and miffed.
And I finally, I just went to bed.
The next day, I get up and I ask everybody in the household, hey, did you hear that helicopter last night?
Everybody said, there was no helicopter last night.
We didn't hear a thing, right?
I'm like, oh my god.
Okay, so this is all weirdness going on.
I'm thinking, do I really want to go back to the And sure enough, Asa Laurie's like, yeah, we gotta go back.
We gotta pack up your stuff at least.
So I'm like, okay, fine.
So get back to the conference.
And this is where everything broke loose for me, Gary.
It was just crazy.
I went up and I talked to Bill Ryan for a minute about...
I can't remember what I was talking to him about, but this kid was with him.
I thought he was a kid.
Turns out he's like 32 years old and he pops up from what he's doing and he says, Hi, my name is James Rink and I'm a super soldier.
And I went, Oh!
Why are you telling me this?
And he goes, oh, I just wanted you to know.
I think I'm supposed to tell you.
And I went, okay.
And I said, meet me at my table at the end of the conference or whatever.
So they show up later, and he brings a friend with him.
Now, this is where it gets really crazy.
I look up.
And I know I know this guy.
I mean, I know I know him.
I don't know where I know him from.
He's 30 some years old, good looking guy with a British accent.
And I don't know this yet.
But I look after the first words out of my mouth are, I know you.
Where do I know you from?
And he looks at me and he goes, I don't know you.
And I said, that's okay.
He said, I know you.
And it was very odd.
And so we spent the rest of the night, carry up until three o'clock in the morning.
We went out to dinner at this house we were staying at.
And the four of us talked till three o'clock in the morning.
And as we were talking...
I started getting more and more upset, and I don't know what I was getting upset about.
I was just starting to feel very odd, like I'm feeling right now.
Every time I try to tell the story, it's like my throat clams up, my stomach starts to hurt.
There's all these things that happen to you that I didn't know about back then, and thank God I didn't.
So I was starting to get very upset about all the conversations about the Satanism, the Nazi part of it, the Satanic abuse, the...
The sexual torture.
I mean, it goes on and on.
People think that super soldiers are very much like Duncan O'Finian.
Duncan is just one little aspect, as you know, of many projects, of many things that are going on.
And, I mean, that's what we're going to cover at the summit, by the way, is all the different factions thereof, all the different projects that they're doing to people, because it just goes on and on.
Yes.
And so, anyhow, I'm going to wrap up my story here pretty quick, but the bottom line is, I woke up the next morning, and as I was coming out of my sleep state, I had a complete flashback.
That's the only way I can describe it to anybody.
It was very real.
And I don't know to this day, and I can't talk about it too much.
There's a lot of sex involved.
I will tell everybody one thing.
It was not fun sex nor pretty sex.
It wasn't that kind of thing.
It was mostly torturous.
And the other part of it was that the gentleman was Max Spears and he was about 23 or 22 in this lifetime that we're living together there and I was 17 and I knew I was 17 and I knew he was 22 or 23.
But in this lifetime, in this dimension, I'm 55 and he's 35.
So there's a 20 year gap here now.
Anyhow, that whole incident, after remembering it and everything that went on with it, I cried for like four hours.
And A. Solaria had to basically try to pour me into my car to drive back to San Francisco.
And it took me about three months to get over that whole type of experience and get it to the point where I could function.
But that whole experience is what drives me because it's just that one experience that I had.
It's an indicator of what they've done to these people who remember much more than I do.
You know, it's horrendous.
And I'm on a mission now.
Well, thank you, Lorian.
You know, I appreciate that.
And I know that people are wondering, you know, kind of why the other people aren't talking.
And I just want to say for the people that maybe joined us a little after the beginning, that Lorian wanted to tell that story as kind of an introduction to how she even got involved in all of this.
And because it did involve my...
I guess my 2011 conference, this is sort of a trigger event.
Very, very interesting, Lorian, and I'm sure you've got a lot of roads to go down to get further down that sort of understanding of I'm glad that you have the courage to do a conference like this.
I knew a little bit about your background, but not much.
I did know that you have done other conferences in the past.
It's great that you're doing this one.
I think that we've got some fabulous people on the call, so let's see if we can go around You know, to the other people on the call and basically ask them to each give sort of a short introduction for themselves.
And we can start with, I'm just going to, you know, go around randomly.
So let's start with Alara Blackwell.
And this is my cat, sharpening his claws in the background.
Anyway, he's just chosen this moment to become very aggressive.
But Alara, go right ahead.
Sure.
My name's Alara.
I recovered my memories back in October of 2010 and didn't really think anything of it until 2011 when I started asking around about these memories that I had recovered, about these government projects that I was involved in.
Didn't really get any answers, though I'm pretty sure people recommended me to go look at other videos.
Unfortunately, I'm very strong, and I still have a very strong hypnotic command, and not look into any of this stuff, so it's hard for me to actually research anything about this.
In 2012, I was introduced to Miles Johnson out of the Mosh Project, and he pretty much confirmed everything that I'd said to him, that other people had talked about almost the exact same thing that I had, and that kind of rocked my world a little bit.
So, for the last year, I've been Searching for answers and for the connections to verify my own memories and my own information that I have about the projects being involved with remote viewing, remote influencing, bonding with super soldiers and acting as an information specialist that I could directly,
telepathically give information to them on the ground, as well as looking into time travel and trying to verify some of the jump programs that I was a part of.
As well as, I don't know, just other things that I can't quite put my finger on yet that are slowly coming to the surface.
So it's been an interesting journey so far.
Okay, so let's see.
Let's go to Misha.
Misha, I'm sorry.
How do you say your name?
It's Misha.
Misha, okay.
Misha Johnston.
Yes, thank you.
Well, I'm aware of my military involvement and my MK involvement since I was a child actually.
I was born into an MK Ultra type of family and you know it's a very long story so just from time to time they Did access on me and they would pull me into different projects.
From what I've recovered and I started getting my memories back in about 2000, but then some Hellacious things happen to me, so I actually got out of everything and got out of everything until 2010.
So then since 2010, I've been working on retrieving my memories.
But I have missing time at least three different time spaces between six months to eight months on each time.
I've I know that I've been in Project Talent and different other projects.
I've been on the different mind-altering things.
Since I'm older, probably much older than the rest of them, I'm kind of a first-generation...
I wouldn't say I'm a super soldier at all.
I do have some memories of being in some areas and times where I was Wearing a uniform and acting like a soldier, but I'm afraid I think that's one of my alters that I found out that I have.
So I've also been an experience in my entire life of contacts or people call abductions and so I've had ET contact from several different types of beings and in fact some of those the Factions of our Black Bops were very interested in and indeed did re-abduct me after I was brought back either right after or a day
or so after and so that's happened ongoing for a long time and oh That's kind of it.
You know, I have a lot more different things, but Melinda and I have a history because we were working together on a MyLab and Mind Control book, and that was back in 2000, and so that is when a lot of the tumultion came in with government agencies that wanted me to shut up.
I'm just retrieving my memories now, and I've got a lot of them, but I'm still working on it.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, very good.
Okay, again, I'm having to switch around here at different screens and so on, so I don't have all the names in front of me, but I remember Melinda Leslie is one of the people also on the call, so go right ahead, Melinda.
Hello?
You might be muted.
Do we have Melinda there?
Hello?
Okay, we're having some interference here.
Can you guys hear me?
Melinda?
Can you hear me?
Hi, Melinda.
Now we can hear you.
Okay, great.
Sorry about that.
I don't think it was on my end, but I don't have the ability on my end.
Okay, so sorry about that.
Alright, well I wear two hats simultaneously here.
One is that I am a researcher of my lab research and alien abduction related information and my lab meaning just an acronym for military abduction.
And then also, I'm also an experiencer.
Which is what led me getting into the research was the self-discovery process of learning about My own experiences, oh gosh, starting with a discovery process in 1989 and then realizing in 1990 and moving forward from there,
not only had I had alien abduction, I'd also had the military involvement, which is the harassment, surveillance, reabduction at the hands of covert ops or black ops military or intelligence agencies as well.
And realize I was having that happen because I was having also the ET related experiences.
And now I'm still an experiencer and my last time that I had a combined experience of military and aliens together actually was myself and three friends, four of us, were taken together.
I now live in Sedona, Arizona and we were taken from my friend's house here in Sedona, Arizona and All four of us remember the experience, and we were taken to a local underground military base located here in Sedona.
Not well known, but known among certain researchers here.
Luckily, we have a large UFO research community, very active here in Sedona, and I'm very good friends with a top-notch researcher looking to the underground base activity here by the name of Tom Dongo, and I certainly give credit to him for his Yeoman's work and years of research into that area.
But, like I said, I have a unique position of both having had the experience of myself as well as investigating many cases.
And when I say investigated, they basically consist of extensive interviewing of people who've had the experience and a little bit of gathering and documenting evidence that they might have.
And that, like I said, that all came because I had my own experiences.
Go lay down, honey.
That I started to ask questions and look deeper.
And I have to say, I'm really excited to be lecturing at this conference coming up.
No, go lay down.
At Lorian's conference on the Mind Control and Super Soldiers Summit.
And the reason is, so often I'm presenting this information at UFO conferences and to MUFON groups and, you know, it's all UFO related.
And I'm constantly working their venture to be one and also, you know, the focus of my research on how it is such strong evidence for the reality of alien abduction that these people are targeted, that they're picked up, interrogated, that there is a covert military and intelligence interest in them is strong evidence for the alien abduction.
And then I'm also always relating it to the problems with disclosure.
Why is there no disclosure?
Why, you know, And how the abduction subject is a big hankment there, and part of it is also because of this scenario regarding the covert ops and military involvement.
And so I'm constantly either giving a disclosure-related talk or an abduction-related talk, and what I love is In this conference, I'm finally able to really take it to the next level and say, why is this happening?
And why it's happening is very much about the technology that is being retrieved, gathered, and looked into by the covert ops, by the military, from what APICTs and people who have, you know, direct interface with ETs know and with their technology.
And so it's mostly like an intelligence gathering process that they are looking for that technology information.
But the other equal aspect to the technology is the personnel.
It's about that they're training and developing procedures and skills and abilities to train personnel.
In other words, create super soldiers.
And it's how abductees are source of information and ability that is then used to train super soldiers.
And there's a lot of crossover because You have the super-soldiers, you have the abdictees, and then you have people that are both.
And certainly, Alara fits in that category.
Neera Isley fits in that category.
I mean, many of the people, if not most of the people speaking at this conference, fit in that category of being both.
Now, like Visha was saying for herself, not really having the military involvement in her own, like thinking of herself as a super-soldier, Neither do I have that for mine, although like her, I remember maybe being in uniform and being, you know, uses and procedures.
But again, I don't, and for a lot of the abductees, it's a matter of they're not being trained.
I think there's too much risk using them.
And we don't have the intelligence and military training I mean, we have the intelligence community.
We're not trained in the intelligence work.
We're not trained in military work.
And so that they would be taking information, they learn from addicts like us, and applying it to those people.
I mean, and I've worked with cases of people that are, in fact, fit that.
And some addicts with military background then get recruited into these programs And sometimes it's a matter of convenience.
They're at the right time, the right place, that they're recruited or used in a situation.
And some of them go through actually kind of a vetting process where they're fully, you know, recruited in more classic sets.
But when I say that, I mean people who are in the military or in the intelligence community who also have this contact experience, the ET involvement experience.
So then there is They're integrated directly into those programs because they have those abilities already because they have that knowledge.
And then as well as they're taking abject teams who don't have that background and that knowledge, but yet getting information from them, which is both funneled to technology development programs, And two super soldier programs.
So it's kind of like I'm glad that I'm finally taking this talk to that next level.
Although it requires so much background, I'm finding it hard as I'm revamping my talk with my notes to say, I have to cover so much, you know, groundwork for people to even understand what I'm talking about.
And do it in an hour.
But I'll do what I can.
But I'm just glad to have the opportunity to be able to finally Go that extra, you know, that extra length there and take it to that understanding that it is about getting the information to develop those programs and again, programs being both the technology and the personnel.
Okay, very, very interesting, Melinda.
Thank you.
So the last person we have is Solaris, and I think that's the name you want me to use.
That's my legal name.
Yes, that's my legal name.
Okay, very good.
So go right ahead.
Well, I'm a published author, a writer, remote viewer, producer, and a systems buster for MKL-related programs.
I have a professional background in surveillance, and I'm a martial arts instructor at Black Belt.
I was inducted into a covert assault program back in 2004, which interfaced me onto a communications system with a handler, live agent, and synthetic telepathy interface.
I went through a lot of different types of programming, and I've written a lot of books about it and decoded it.
So that's pretty much where I'm at right now.
I'm also a presenter at the event, and I will be talking about solutions and how to rewrite these programs that they're using, which are psychotronic, that are creating false realities in the psyche of the target.
Okay, well, that was very succinct.
Thank you for that, Solaris.
So basically, we have some incredible women here and very, very sort of intricate backgrounds.
And actually, it's kind of your ballgame.
I'm not sure what you would like to discuss here.
Lorian, because this is a promo for your conference, if there's some particular area you'd like everyone to address, maybe we could do a round...
Sure.
Well, you know, Carrie, maybe we should start with you.
What are you going to be talking about at the conference?
Okay.
Well, you know, I will talk about the big picture, basically.
And I'm going to be sort of wrapping the super soldiers into the big picture.
I may cover, you know, a bit about myself.
I may do that simply because it relates to the topic at hand.
And certainly the background that Camelot has, which is breaking, basically, The Super Soldier story to the world.
And that was because we did an interview with Duncan O'Finian way back when.
And that really just sort of hit the roof in terms of viewership.
And then after that, Aaron McCullum, who came to us, or me, And, um, and broke that story.
And, um, the rest is to say is history.
I had had, you know, contact with, um, Allie, uh, I guess you call her by a different name, Axe or whatever, but, uh, very early on as well.
And she had not gone public at that time.
So, so there were, uh, back channel things going on with Camelot.
There are other people that are Super soldiers in essence.
John Irwin is a super soldier.
Some people will know of our interview with him.
He lives in England and was very specially trained by the British And some ETs.
And so on.
So our interview with Pete Peterson is another one to be really aware of because he's talking about a Terminator-like scenario that's very real and involves Skynet.
And all of that was discussed in our interview with Pete Peterson.
I basically got a death threat over my portion of that interview.
For those who haven't listened to it, I do recommend it.
And in some ways, you could even say many of the whistleblowers, if you want to use a super soldier concept to mean that somebody, even scientists who have extra abilities that they've been augmented with, and that in a certain sense makes them a super soldier in a way, although they're not necessarily a military person, they're not going to go around toting a gun.
Karen, this is Melinda.
And that's where I wanted to cut in.
I'm sure Melinda's chomping at the bit about this, too.
We all hate that word, super soldier.
It got coined with Duncan from way back in the beginning.
And, you know, Carrie, as we know, we can't get rid of it, but we don't have another word to put in its place yet.
Yeah, and that's fair.
Go ahead.
Carrie, can you hear me?
Yes, go right ahead.
You just said something very important, which has really come home to root with me in the last week, and I'll explain why, which is that a lot of times it's the scientists, too.
So it's not only the people who might be in a more directly overt military capacity, but a lot of it is the engineers, the scientists, the technicians who also have to interface and who go through The mind control process to erase their memories or forget their project that they're involved in or to have a limited access to the part they are involved in.
And like you, I have met so many insiders that are these technical guys.
I mean, I should never be surprised when another one, you know, falls into my lap, but I just had that happen a week ago, not the gentleman directly, it's through a contact, a guy that's working with him, who lives near me,
who discovered me and came across what I did here at the Center for the New Age in Sedona, but he's relating to me his work with this other gentleman who is an Area 51 employee and a scientist at Area 51 involved in those projects for Area S4 and Area 51 in Nevada.
I'm sure your listeners probably know full well what I'm talking about.
But here's another one of those guys and I was racking my brain trying to remember and at the conference I look forward to having a discussion with you about who all the Area 51 guys are because off the top of my head I came up with about seven of them that I know of that have been public and people have worked with and You know, to varying degrees and stuff, you know, but here we go.
Here's another one.
But again, it made me realize, and in context here, I'm planning to do my lecture and I'm doing this conference, and I can't really go fully public with much about this guy.
First off, there's more research that needs to be done, but I don't really have his permission to other than, you know, loosely say it like I'm saying now.
in realizing and getting the story and kind of vetting the whole story is I realized this is another one of those people that fits into this even though he's not in a directly a military role I mean the technologies he worked on definitely had military applications without a doubt and that's the point behind this but also you know it's You know, definitely that scientist.
So I'm so glad that you brought that up.
And I just wanted to jump in and say yes, exactly, because it also very much involves those guys.
Absolutely.
Let me say that maybe Super Soldier isn't the right moniker.
I would say that in some ways we're really talking about genetically re-engineering humanity and creating an augmented version.
It's either a robotic human or augmenting the natural angelic human, as they call them.
Basically, we're talking about Humanity 2.0 and the military-industrial complex.
The secret side of that has been hard at work and also been augmenting their own personnel.
So anytime I get a whistleblower, nine times out of ten they have augmented psychic abilities, etc., and they're also chosen because they have...
So mind control is a huge part of it as Lorian has obviously included that in her title for the conference.
So do you want to go around and maybe other people could talk to this topic or we could start a new topic?
Well, I think if it's okay with you, Carrie, maybe Solaris could go into her type of experience and just let people know it's very different from a lot of the other experiences that people have had.
And Solaris' experience is very different than Melinda's.
I mean, they're all just so different.
And that's what I'm trying to do tonight is get everybody to understand that It is not simple black and white.
These are super soldiers.
These are mind control people.
These are this and that.
There's probably as many flavors of mind control, tagged individuals, targeted individuals, gang stalking.
I mean, it goes on and on.
And so by having each of the ladies tonight talk about their experiences just a little bit, I think it's going to give everybody a flavor of how many different types of You know, control there is out there.
So, I just thought we'd start with Solaris, because she has an amazing story to tell.
Absolutely.
That's fine.
Go right ahead, Solaris.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thanks, Lorraine.
Well, we're dealing with technological interface, basically, and I can only go by what I've done and what I've learned from my own experience.
But, like I said, they mapped my electromagnetic field and interfaced it onto a communications system in a culvert area.
I had a live handler.
They matched my neural circuitry, so they interfaced me with synthetic telepathy.
I was remote viewing.
I had pattern recognition programming.
I had a lot of different types of programming with numbers and codes.
They pretty much trained me on all different levels, mapping my vitals.
Being a martial artist at the time, they really hit me in my prime.
Back in 2004, I was teaching martial arts.
I'm a black belt instructor, so I had everything going for me at that time when they nailed me with this program.
So all they did was map my own neural circuitry, my own electromagnetic field, and interface it onto their communication system where they could create a template and then interface it back onto me and also use a feedback.
But I did have a live handler, and I went through this whole fiasco with him for several years, being programmed, manipulated.
Remotely assaulted when I wasn't complying, and I do have anomaly signatures in my electromagnetic field that were measured by Steve Colburn.
I have one that bounces to music on radios and a lot of other things, but I am definitely hooked into the synthetic telepathy programming, and that's for real.
So I do know my own, and so far as I can tell, others who have been plugged in versus me, or things that are not Not like the average bear, so to speak, but everybody's telepathic, but there is a technology.
I'm sorry, did you have something to say?
I thought someone had something to say.
No, we sort of have a loud buzzing in the background, but other than that, nobody spoke up.
I don't know where it's coming from.
I don't know if it's mine or not.
Can you check your plug?
You might have the mic not all the way plugged in.
I've got it plugged in all the way.
You know, it could be my electromagnetic field.
Actually, I think it was Melinda said she couldn't unmute herself.
So we'll just endure it for now.
But go right ahead, Solaris.
Don't want you to interrupt yourself.
I'm sorry about that, but anyways, so a lot of what we're dealing with is the psychotronic programming.
When they talk about alters, those are kind of like a program designed to create a false reality within the psyche of the target.
So they have to be very careful.
These subjects, these test subjects, have to be very careful insofar as how they're seeing that identity because it's really not theirs to own.
It's just something that they have to observe.
I saw a lot of different things when I was remote viewing, and they threw a lot of different pictures at me.
I would look at things and they'd have everything labeled ahead of time for me.
I was speed reading.
I mean, you name it.
They threw everything at me.
But I did know how to decode it, and I rewrote the programs on a higher level of consciousness, which enabled me to get through all these maelstroms that they created, these wormholes of programming.
And I see a lot of people these days, you know, subjected to some kind of a torturous avenue where they're not able to get out of it.
And I think that they don't get out of it because they're stuck in the In that one little warp zone of the programming, when they have to kind of break that program, it's like a barrier of a frequency.
You have to go from one level to the next level to the next level.
According to Duncan, Robert Duncan, and I've talked with him a lot, and obviously he's a developer of some of the psychotronic programs, there are over 200 levels to go through.
So just think about that.
And that's just one program.
That's just one thing he was working on.
So just to give you a heads up insofar as...
I've written some books, Eye of the Remote, Black Operations in Areas Beyond 52, which breaks down what happened to me back in 2004, exposes my handlers, and it talks about the technology itself and what they did to me and how I got through it.
And then I also have a documentary called Eye of the Remote, A Disclosure of Cobra Technology, which covers the implant analysis scan, but it also covers what happens to me, and it shows visuals for people who need to see something.
They need to see some kind of a I also have a program by Deception, the Remote Series 2, which is about the solutions as well.
So that's what I've been working on, and like I said, everybody has a different program.
They're all unique and individual, but mine was definitely used for surveillance.
They wanted me as kind of like a little spy bird, and my handler had a clearance.
And I know his background.
A lot of people think that with synthetic telepathy, what they use it for is kind of like beyond secret service.
I mean, you don't need a headset with this type of communication system.
It's used for wireless communication with your handler or whoever it is in your core area that you want to be in.
And yes, they use it on the battlefield, and it's all integrated into the Super Soldier program.
And honestly, I feel like Super Soldier is the correct terminology because it is designed for, it's a weaponization of the psyche, it's a weaponization of the electromagnetic field, the neural circuitry, the body, the mind, spirit, you name it.
They weaponize everything and interface it onto their communication for military application.
So yes, it can be used as such, and I guess that's all I have to say right now.
Okay, very, very interesting.
Alright, does anyone else want to speak up about sort of this topic, generally speaking, and maybe talk about what you're going to be presenting or just come out this topic with whatever piece of information you'd like?
This is Melinda again.
I don't want to keep taking up time, but this has been touched on a number of times in this conversation so far.
And that's this psi component, which I think is such a big part of it.
It is so much, at least in my research, all of that, in my research and my personal experience, it has everything to do, and the insiders that I've worked with, it has everything to do with developing their psi abilities, their, as Laura was just saying, remote viewing, the telepathy, the psychokinesis.
The really advanced psychic applications and their use.
And that's also where it dovetails with the ET technology, is because they know that to operate, build, or fly, navigate, you know, or do anything with ET technology, you have to have that Psi component.
It is how that technology works, as she was just saying, that mental interface.
But I also have learned, you know, that there's crossovers into areas that are pure technology development without necessarily the ET component as well.
But ultimately, I think it is very much related to their developing that technology specifically and how to do that.
I'm sorry, I'm rambling.
But yeah, I just I've come to see, at least again in my research and the insiders that I've worked with, that it has such a predominant side component, which she was just speaking to as well.
Okay.
Well, okay, we've got a break here.
We actually, I think we've been going for an hour.
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We go for another half hour and see how it goes.
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This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot at Whistleblower Radio, and we're talking to the whole Super Soldier Summit group of women that are going to be presenting there, as well as Lorian Fenton, who is the organizer of the conference.
And this is May 17th, 18th, and 19th.
Correct?
That is correct, Carrie.
That's absolutely right.
17th, 18th, and 19th, we start at 6 p.m.
on Friday night, and the opening speaker, and Carrie, I had to bump you up an hour, so we're going to have to figure out how we're going to get you on your radio show at the same time.
What I was thinking about doing was maybe a simulcast to Revolution Radio of your presentation at 7 p.m., I'm actually going to have a guy that's running for governor opening the conference of Nevada, and he's going to talk a little bit about what they're doing out at Area 51 and what he'd do as governor about S-4 in Area 51.
So I thought that was kind of cute.
He wanted to really be at the summit, so he's going to be there.
He's a wonderful guy.
If I could just find his name right now, I think it's David Laurie something, and I'm going to look it up for us.
But anyhow, yes, we start at 6 o'clock with hopefully the next governor of Nevada opening the show for us.
And then Carrie will be on at 7 p.m.
And then at 8 p.m.
we're going to do...
A Super Soldier Roundtable event where people reveal quite a bit, and Alara is very much aware of this.
She was part of that last year at our first Super Soldier Summit, and it's where the Super Soldiers are going to get together and talk for about 20 minutes each about their experiences and the differences between their experiences.
So that'll open us up and then all day Saturday and all day Sunday we have speakers and then Misha Johnston who's with us tonight is going to be doing an experiencers group first thing in the morning starting at about 8.15 or 8.30 and going up till about 9.45 before the first speaker starts on Saturday and Sunday morning as well.
So there's that opportunity for people out there who want to, you know, come on in and find out if they've been my labbed or super-soldiered or abducted or anything like that.
Just come on down and you'll be in a group of people that are talking about the same thing.
And then on Sunday night, to close out the evening, we're going to have...
Two extremely important panels, I believe.
And Carrie, you'll be on one of them.
You'll be on the experts panel.
And then I have an experiencers panel.
So there'll be two different types of panels.
Saturday night, if people would like, they can sign up to go to dinner at the Fiesta Buffet, my favorite place to go because you can eat anything you want.
Ha ha ha!
Great place.
And have dinner with one of the speakers.
There'll be about 8 or 10 people with each speaker because we only have 200 seats there.
So, you know, hopefully everybody will get to meet up with somebody that they really wanted to meet in the past and maybe never could do it before.
So that'll be kind of fun.
So that's a little twist we're throwing in this year at the Super Soldier Summit.
So there you have it.
And I just want to say one last thing before we let the other girls talk here.
I've got a couple special guests coming that I can't talk about because they don't want to be out there, but they will be there.
For those of you in the know, you'll figure it out.
We have a couple of very high-profile people showing up.
But they just can't be on the roster right now.
So there you go.
Surprises for you.
Okay, very good.
That sounds like fun and sounds like a great weekend for everyone.
I'm sure it'll be jam-packed.
Let's see.
I don't think we've heard much from Alara.
Am I right?
Oh, I'm just sitting back.
I love hearing everybody else's stories because I can sit there and go, yeah, that's kind of what I remember.
Okay.
Laura, actually, because I think it was at least a year ago that I had you on a live stream, and I think that might have been the first time you came out in public, although I don't know for sure.
But would you like to talk about your year since then?
In other words, you know, not...
You know, put it into a capsule, but just because, you know, you sort of came out recently revealing your background and so on, and has that changed the interactions that you've had, the, I don't know, whether it be with military or off-worlders or communication in any way?
Actually, off-world I've had a lot of support, which is nice and needed, because I wasn't really planning on coming out with this information.
The video that was posted on YouTube, I didn't understand that was actually going to happen, so I kind of got thrown in the deep end, but I was still wanting to find answers, so I kind of let it be.
And I wasn't really prepared for...
The severity of lengths people go to discredit or make stuff up about people.
I was a little shocked and surprised to see just this kind of rumor mongering that was going on in the field.
And I was taken aback, actually, because I want to find out the truth about what happened to me.
And I was hoping that other people would think the same thing and have it.
I had a good outlook on looking for the truth, but I just wasn't prepared.
And after the summit, I kind of backed off and didn't talk about it for a good six months.
I had to sit and think about what I was willing to put up with and coming up with this information.
But after talking with close friends of mine and other people who are involved in this who are also looking for the truth, I came to realize that I'm not going to be intimidated and I'm not going to back down because people have come to me Since then, of me telling my story, going like, thank you.
And that's kind of what I'm here for, is that if I can verify something for someone else stuck in that place of doubt or just feeling like they're losing their mind, I think any little bit helps.
And the more that we talk about this, the more that we come together and speak about what's going on, I think it helps other people kind of begin to heal themselves as well.
So it was a little rough, but well worth it.
Definitely well worth it.
And after the UFO Congress this year, I was totally excited.
After talking to so many wonderful people, I was really excited to get back out there and talk about this again.
Oh, good.
Well, that's good to hear.
I'm sure it was rough.
In fact, it never ends, I have to say, having been out here for now seven years.
Over seven years, actually.
And people still love to attack you for multiple reasons and makeup stuff.
Just as they go and spread it around.
So it continues, believe me.
There's a good thing about that, though.
I mean, I can see the silver lining in most things.
You know, what it does is it keeps all the people who say they're looking for truth that can swallow lies, you know, out of my hair.
Like, you know, if you can believe all that stuff without looking for the truth yourself, then there's absolutely no unnecessary for me to be in contact with any of those people.
And I think everyone should realize that, that, you know, if you're really looking for the truth, if you'd actually look for it instead of just believing anything you hear.
So I'm just going to throw that out there.
It's my lesson learned.
Absolutely.
Okay, well, does anyone else want to add to that or perhaps talk to a different subject?
This is Misha.
I would like to add to that.
Since 1992, I started remembering my lab and first started with the my lab before I even started learning about the MKUltra.
But in 92 I started a support group for people who were experiencers and subsequently I ended up finding out in my groups that they were my labs within the group.
So I started, we talked about the my lab situation, lots of people had experiences, we had Government people come up to some of the people in my groups in hotels while they were dealing cards.
One of the gals in my group and I were talking on the phone and a helicopter came over her house and then within seconds it ended up over in my office and it was a military dark, it was hard to tell for sure, but I think it was a black helicopter.
So there was all of this going on all the time.
So I realized that it was very, very important that not only I found out about my lab experiments, but everyone else in the groups needed to know.
So from then, you know, now I have like 10 groups that I do monthly.
I have a MyLab group on the internet.
And an experiencer group on the internet.
Actually, I have eight a week, excuse me, eight a month on the internet, on Uvu.
And this is, you know, we can have up to 12 people, so other people can share.
And that's why I even started coming out at all, because within the group, you get support, people can...
Help each other.
We know what's going on with each other.
We're not feeling like we're crazy.
In fact, I certainly did for a long, long time.
Just felt like, you know, how could I have these memories?
For instance, non-memories.
Since I said I'm a little bit older, I was drafted in 1968 by what ended up to be my husband.
But I guess I got married to him in a wedding with a gown and all of that had no memory whatsoever of it.
He took me to Seattle and started the training and there I had memories of torture and interrogation, ritualistic abuse, sexual slavery, all kinds of different things.
Back in those days, I think everything was done Just buy a handler and a one-on-one.
They didn't have any kind of interface.
I don't believe that the synthetic, that's very new to me, I'm just all ears learning about that because that's completely different than anything I experienced.
All of mine was more on a physical basis and so for that reason is why I have these support groups and have And continued again back in 2010 to start over again and have these groups.
Wanting to offer these MyLab and Super Soldier Experiencer groups every morning of the conference is my way of seeing if we can help people who feel like I did at one time and need to talk to other people about what's going on in their lives so they're not alone.
So I just wanted to bring that out.
Okay, thank you, Misha.
That's very, very good and wonderful to know about, and I'm sure that's another thing that will be happening at this conference, I think.
It's sort of a meeting place for people to connect with other people, people who feel kind of out on the fringe and on the outside of all of it and may have their own stories to tell.
It's always fascinating.
Certainly I will be there with my camera.
So if there's anyone who wants to do an interview and we get the opportunity, I think it'll be quite interesting in that regard as well.
So let me see.
I'm trying to look over the names and see if there's anybody who we haven't heard from.
And, let's see, at this moment, I think everyone is kind of given at least some sort of overview of what they want to talk about or sort of where they're coming from.
But if there's anyone who hasn't spoken up lately and has a topic or just something they want to talk about in terms of maybe what they're going to be talking about at the conference for the listeners, you know, feel free to pitch in.
Well, Carrie, if it's okay with you, I wouldn't mind throwing this open to all of us maybe talking about how we feel about what has happened to us and how we've kind of overcome it.
I think that is a huge thing and that's going to be a very big part of all of the presentations at the summit is how you overcome it.
And I can tell you guys in a nutshell, mine was very simple.
I said I'm not going to address it.
It's in the past.
If it has anything to do with my future, then I'm just not going to let it bother my future.
And I made my mind up.
Three months after this whole thing happened to me, I just said, that's it.
I don't have time in my life to keep what I call the looping effect, Carrie, is where they get just lost in this over and over again victimization of what's happened to me instead of actually trying to break free and become the strong person that they can become.
Because I think if you've ever had any of these types of experiences, There's such a beautiful way out and the way out is so simple.
It's just have no fear and not be afraid of death because you know what?
They can only kill you.
That's it.
I mean, and there's something, believe me folks, there's something better on the other side.
There really is.
I've died several times and I've seen it.
I've been there.
It's gorgeous.
The feeling of love that's there is phenomenal.
So you don't have to worry about that.
You just have to say to yourself, I'm not going to let this bother me.
I'm not afraid.
And they leave you alone.
And it's absolutely amazing how easy it is.
And Alara, why don't you pipe in on this?
Because you've had the same kind of experience.
I think you've come through it in a very different way, but to the same conclusion that I did.
Yeah.
I had to start laughing at it because there was really no other way I could do it.
You know, comedy is a great healer.
I actually had someone mention to me, like, you should be a stand-up comic for ETs.
Get people.
I was like, my guys?
Leave it.
But, you know, it's still very serious.
And when I go back to look at those memories, you know, it's like touching a live wire.
It's very intense.
It's very...
Um, uncomfortable, but in the end, I'll be all.
I'm still living my life today doing what I love and what I am still following my passions and not letting the past control me.
Um, and that had to do with a lot of forgiveness, forgiving myself for allowing myself to be in that situation.
Um, And letting those chains go and not let them manipulate me anymore.
Exactly.
And you know, the cool thing about you that I loved when you were talking last year at the first Super Soldier Summit was the fact that you had made peace with all of your altars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's extraordinary.
I really took that to heart.
I didn't really know what I was doing at first.
I just knew that I had these other parts of myself that were traumatized.
And I just kind of took a step forward to say, you know, I'm here and I'm listening.
And being very creative, I could sit there and visualize talking to myself and trying to figure out.
And I didn't realize at the time that I was integrating alters.
And I had a lot of help from other beings.
My E.T., Peoples that I work with to keep everything in my head straight.
I mean, there have been times where I was unable to function and with a couple days of downtime was able to get back up and do things that I thought that I was never going to be able to do again.
I was mentally locked down.
And just realized that it just took time.
It was going to take time to heal and take time to piece things together and figure out what was going on and take a look at it as a big picture instead of just something that was continually keeping me trapped.
And those mind loops and those landmines that are in the psyche are vicious.
They're vicious.
They're planted there and every time you trip over one it's so subtle you don't realize what's going on and then all of a sudden you're in this state of mind where you're Trying to figure out what's happening, be it paranoia or depression or PTSD, hypervigilance.
You just have to be kind to yourself at that point and realize that you're processing things and you're not at fault for it.
Healing takes time.
Well said.
I do want to say, though, that when a soul goes down these roads, you do augment yourself and your understanding.
So there's no kind of losers here, if you will.
What you're doing is absolutely growing in your abilities and your understanding.
The fact is that some of these experiences will give you special abilities and those special abilities can come in handy During this earthly sojourn to assist other people, and a lot of people get involved for just that reason.
So it may start out as a seemingly victim type of scenario, but ultimately you can gain great power from it and the power to help others and to also change the world that we're in.
So I just want to say that.
Anyway, does anyone else want to sort of chime in here and say what their feelings are?
This is Melinda.
I just was saying I agree with everything that was just being said and what you just said was really beautiful because that's so true.
And so many people who I've worked with who've had these scenarios Really got through it with a tremendous amount of spiritual understanding.
And you just said, part of these experiences allows you through the training or the manipulation to tap into those psi abilities, but with that comes an increased psi awareness.
And so a lot of people find that integrating that part of their life and allowing themselves to fully experience that part of themselves.
Is a tremendous way to heal through this and really tapping into one's, you know, own spirituality.
But also for myself, is becoming an activist in it.
I mean, really taking a role of trying to help others and speaking about it and doing that has really been my personal healing process.
And, you know, when becoming an activist and lecturing and speaking and writing and, you know, and just being so involved in it.
I mean, I've taken it to the extent now where I'm doing UFOs full-time here in Sedona now.
It's a long story, but it certainly came out of my going public, my Talking about what had happened to me and then talking about what had happened to other people and bringing it to the awareness in the ufology community initially,
you know, to what was going on and adding to the voices of the few others at the time that were talking about my labs and covert involvement and their own personal experiences or Or getting it, you know, to the attention of abduction researchers to say, hey, a lot of abductees are having this other component also go on.
But I really feel like by being out there saying that, that's how I'm helping other people, getting the information, educating people.
And it's truly been my own healing process.
I mean, I admit, I'm totally doing it for myself.
Because it is.
That is my process.
Okay.
Thank you, Melinda.
I always quote Walt Whitman, who says he has a poem about that, basically.
There's a lot of insight to it.
In other words, the dance is for the dancer and comes back most to them.
It goes on like that.
For every walk of life and for every person that thinks they're doing something for others, In the end, they're also doing it for themselves.
It does come back around.
So that's perfectly valid.
Okay, anyone else want to talk about this?
Well, the only thing I want to say is I think it's extremely important that we communicate and expose the misuse of technology.
I mean, what I dealt with was a complete abuse of power and misuse of technology.
And being used as a lab rat and a guinea pig is not appropriate.
Yes, I got through it.
However, I do know other targets that were so...
So tortured by the psychotronics that they actually were into what we call a forced suicide.
So this is something that needs to be addressed.
It's quite serious.
It's global and it's being done covertly.
And of course there's a lot of disinformation, a lot of lies out there.
But one of the reasons I came forward was because I had to address this.
This was destroying people's lives.
It was taking people down.
It was ruining people's marriages.
It took out my life in four months.
It took out my life.
I had a happy, wonderful life, and it took it away in four months' time.
So I felt very obligated to communicate the data, to research it, and I stick to a very technological level right now because I understand all the visuals and all the remote viewing and all these things that people want to say are ETs and this and that and that.
I'm not discounting that.
However, I do know how the program works, and I know how it affects the psyche.
So you have to kind of let go of all those visuals I just look at it as technology, the misuse of technology, the source of who's doing it, and how they're getting into the electromagnetic field, which of course is satellite driven for the most part.
So I go into a lot of specifics about it with my own research, but I do think that's very important that people stay grounded with it and say, look, this is really what it's about, the misuse of technology and the abuse of power.
Okay, absolutely.
Yeah, and I think that it can be a real motivator as well to, as I say, to go out and, you know, rectify these wrongs.
In essence, it gives you a mission, and may have been your mission to begin with, even before sort of the interactions, your exposure to it.
Certainly that's been the case with many of my whistleblowers.
In other words, they actually go onto the dark side, they're exposed to the dark side, they work on the dark side.
And then their mission is to actually come and reveal the truth so that other people can free themselves.
Because in the end, it's all about freeing humanity from the various oppressions that we have that's basically turned humanity into a slave society.
Absolutely.
Yes, I agree.
Anyone else?
Well, I would like to see disclosures for this subject.
Like they're doing now with the disclosures for the UFOs and even the E.T. Third Kind encounters.
I'd love to see this disclosure.
I'm sure in my lifetime it will happen, you know, on C-SPAN. And I think it's really important that they do provide amnesty for them.
I have forgiven all of my perpetrators.
Through my spiritual walk, that's what kept me alive and surviving is my connection with my ETs and my guides.
There's no victims in my opinion.
This is a matrix.
We signed up for this duty and we're doing it and in turn it's going to help others because Once people start coming out with this and more and more people feel safe enough, we started to try to come out in 2001 and that's when I had a lot of visits.
I had three automobile accidents.
Melinda and I had an abduction and taken to the military base and told me to shut up.
They weren't ready for it, but now, you know, there's so much going on, I think it's time.
It's time.
You know, Misha, I have to agree with you on that, because it's been very odd.
I have been lucky enough to be able to pull off that first Super Soldier Summit, and I didn't have any problems.
And I still haven't had any real problems.
I mean, maybe I could blame my computer breaking on putting on the Super Soldier Summit, or maybe I could blame my car breaking down on the Super Soldier Summit.
But honestly, those are my dealings with everyday life.
And I know better.
I know better than to start going into this whole paranoia thing of, you know, my car broke one month before the summit, so it's all the summit's fault.
That type of stuff.
And believe me, I get phone calls every day from people saying, oh, I was going to come to the Super Soldier Summit, but they're breaking my car and they're taking my house away from me and all this stuff has happened.
And I'm thinking, well, maybe the reality is that you did pay your bills, you know?
And so, I mean, we use the external things that happen in life sometimes as an excuse not to go forward.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Right.
Manifesting those blocks.
Exactly, exactly.
And so when I did decide to do this, it just fell into my lap and it was able to come easily for me.
Now maybe it was just time.
Who knows?
This is Melinda.
I want to speak to something you just said.
In working with insiders and my labs and stuff, There's a lot to be said for going public.
Terry, I'm sure you can speak to this.
This seems to be unanimous with insiders and with my love cases I've worked with.
When you start to go really public, they leave you loud.
Now initially, it's like at the very first, there may be threats and warnings and break-ins and these kinds of things.
And some people, when that starts to happen, they pull back, and then they're successful being intimidated.
But I tell people, when that starts happening, you can either stop, pull out, draw back completely, you know, have nothing to do with the subject, stop being public, stop being interviewed, don't do any radio, don't tell your friends and family, you know.
And because, and Misha, I know very well, obviously, your personal story.
That, you know, you go so far and they start doing stuff.
But then what I've learned, and I found this consistently, and Carrie, I'd like to make your comment on this maybe, is when people go, it's like once you've hit that, you can either pull out and stop or push farther and push harder.
And then they leave you alone.
And so, Lorianne, I think because what you're doing is so public and so out there, That doing anything to you or threatening you in any way would draw such attention and credibility to what you're doing.
So their way of not giving you credibility is to leave you alone.
And I have found this to be the case with so many people that I tell people, you know, at first they'll try to intimidate you and you can either choose to, you know, be intimidated and stop or you can go farther.
I mean, Misha, you can probably speak to this too.
I know that You were intimidated.
You did stop, but it got that bad.
I mean, it got bad.
And it gets bad for other people.
And I so applaud you for now coming out again and saying, you know what, I'm going to go further.
And thank God you're being left alone.
But I found this with most people.
So I usually tell people, you know, and that takes a real decision.
You're either going to go public and some of the hardest things You know, we all talk about, oh, you know, if I'm going to get harassed or surveillance, or am I going to get threatened, or, you know, are the covert ops guys going to come down on me?
It seems to be some of the hardest attacks come from our own, come from within ufology, come from within the mind control community, come from inside the research community.
But again, I usually tell people, you know, stick with it.
You will be left alone.
And I have found that more and more to be the case.
And anyone out there who thinks this may have happened, you know, be willing to accept that when you first start looking into it, they might try to intimidate you.
But that's just to be expected.
Keep with it.
And there's very few people who have had extensive stuff remain happening.
I can't, you know, there are some cases, but luckily those are few and far between.
Most people, when you start to go public, you're left alone.
And it's a gift, and they don't want you to get the attention, they don't want the credibility, you know, so I think by leaving you hanging out on your own is kind of like the best way to discredit you or to at least not give any attention to you.
And you know, Melinda, I've got to say in spades, I have had so much help I've had so much support, and I don't feel alone out there, and it's because of all of you guys and the other guys that aren't with us tonight, the men-men.
But if it wasn't for all of you saying, yeah, I'll be there, and me saying to you, well, believe me, you're not getting paid a whole lot to be there.
You know, it's just like, you know, we're doing this as a, like, I call it a non-profit organization because I do have one of my non-profits handling it, but you guys, I'm not doing this to make money.
This is a call-in thing.
This is something that's being done to help everybody and all the women and men that are being there speaking, they are going out of their way to be here because it's that important.
So I just want you all to know that.
Absolutely.
I do want to address what Melinda said.
You know, the motto of Project Camelot, it's on our site, is the best place to hide is out in the open.
That's been our sort of guiding light, if you will, for what we do.
Now, I agree with Melinda, though, that if you become...
Sort of, if you step out slightly, and then you pull back, they do see you as someone they can intimidate, and they may actually go on sort of...
They may escalate against you, but...
And I have to say that it doesn't necessarily completely go away either.
Camelot has been periodically attacked repeatedly over the seven years, and sometimes they become more covert in the way they attack.
And they certainly always look for the weakest link, and they're always looking for creative ways to get At least at us, at Camelot.
And I imagine with others as well.
But the one thing is that they don't want to make a martyr out of a person.
So the more well-known you can become, in my opinion, the more better off you are.
As long as you can weather the storm.
You're right about, you know, the sort of the ones that are more backbiting and stuff where they go out and they try to do character assassination type of nonsense.
This has happened to me repeatedly.
It's never worked.
But they never stop trying.
And I just have to say that as long as you can kind of steel yourself against that kind of thing and just hang in there and just do your work, because that's really what it's about.
In other words, I don't really pay a lot of attention.
Even, you know, to so-called death threats or things of that nature.
But I will say, I mean, I'm not going to come out here like Pollyanna either.
We have had some whistleblowers die.
And Mr.
X is one of them.
He was about to go on coast, thinking of going on coast.
He might have even been, in a sense, he came out under, you know, he didn't come out under his real name.
He did disguise his voice.
He had just done a recording for crash retrieval for us at the crash retrieval, and then I think that was in November.
And then I think...
If I have my timeline correct, then sometime in December, prior to Christmas, he died unexpectedly.
And he was quite young.
We're pretty sure he was taken out.
It does go with the territory.
I mean, you know, there has to be sort of your, I don't know...
What you want to call it, meeting with your maker, whatever you want to call it.
In other words, you have to be clear with yourself, with who you are, with what you're doing.
People can also look at people like Bill Cooper and also...
The famous one, Phil Schneider.
Sometimes you do get really popular, you do get really well known, you do make an imprint, and then they do take you out still.
It does go with the territory.
I think you have to...
We're spirit first and material second.
Bill Ryan and I came to that conclusion.
I mean, that's where we connected and were able to start Camelot on that basis.
And we never looked back.
And you really have to have that mindset.
But you have to decide that's your mission.
So I can't say it's for everyone.
Carrie, I agree.
And that's why I did try to get somewhat of a caveat.
This is Melinda.
I tried to get some kind of a, you know, caveat that there were some cases because certainly I'm familiar with the cases you mentioned as well as some others.
But luckily, those are more rare and it tends to be the more public someone is.
Like you said, the best place to hide is, you know, is in public.
And, you know, so unfortunately there are those cases of people that have been...
Either intimidated out of it or had extreme hardship to become them or even death.
But like I said, thank God those are Yeah, I mean, I think we're at a time when this is changing as well.
In other words, they're not going to be able to get away with taking people out quite so easily as they did in the past.
Because, you know, information travels incredibly fast.
And people are known to so many people so quickly on the Internet that when somebody disappears, everyone becomes very aware of it.
And, and, and I think for the citizens hearing, for example, there were people there that had, for example, fathers who had their sons testifying, who had waited 40 years to tell the truth about what they were part of.
Incredible emotional, you know, Sort of truth-telling.
And it was just wonderful.
And I think that we're looking forward to that in the future.
In other words, humanity is going to begin telling its story to itself.
The hidden story.
And we're all part of that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I think that's...
Misha spoke to wanting disclosure earlier.
I think it's...
It's exposure from within.
It's as we do this and we're examples and we have that courage and the more people that speak out, it encourages others.
I mean, there will be people who attend this event, Lorian, you know, your conference, who are people who have this kind of stuff and then they're going to speak up because they'll be influenced by us.
Most of us were influenced by someone else coming out and talking.
And, um, I think it's coming from within.
It's coming from more and more people talking.
Like you said, I could certainly understand it in a spiritual, metaphysical capacity that the truth will allow.
And like you were saying, that it's society telling itself the story and telling itself the truth.
And we're headed in that direction.
You know, these programs exist.
There is sight ability.
It is being used as a weapon.
And there are mind control programs.
There are ETs present.
And development of that technology towards some Cold War scenario.
You know, I mean, all those things exist.
And it's just...
It can't help but come out.
The truth will come out.
And so we're just...
Oh, I don't know what the word is, but the forefront of that.
I think we're a catalyst, Melinda.
I really feel that we are the catalyst for this.
Yeah, well, you know, I wanted to bring up one quick thing here, and it's flitting through my head and it's going away quickly, but what I really wanted to talk about was the fact that The time travel guys and people like Solaris and Alara who have dealt with this kind of artificial interface are very much a different kind of category than the satanic ritual abuse and the Nazi part of it and
the super soldiers that come out of that part of the program as compared to like Duncan's group and Aaron's group which are more like almost like Navy SEALs but totally enhanced.
And had dealings at different times with like Vietnam and different battles, actual battles, that there's like four or five different factions of things that all fall together.
The aliens are part of this too.
So it's aliens, time travel, super soldiers, mind control people, and the people that are targeted individuals or AI interface.
It's like there's five different factions of all this trying to become cohesive together And I think once we are able to pull this all together and figure out how all the pieces fit together, we'll be able to have a citizen's disclosure hearing too.
But until we actually figure out what is actually going on here, it's going to be hard to get the rest of the world to join us.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, it's a tough nut to crack because we're covering all bases here, all the way from whistleblowers to time travelers, and the super soldiers are kind of like in the middle.
So it's like you've got everything going on here, and that's really hard for the general public to swallow.
They can swallow little gray aliens and people seeing them and pilots seeing them and astronauts seeing them and people working with them at Area 51.
I think they've got that down now.
I think they're okay with that.
But I'm not sure how okay they're ever going to be with clones.
You know, it goes on and on.
It's funny to hear you say that people are okay with that.
I have a little UFO research center here at the Center for the New Age where people come back all day long.
And a friend of mine, Randy Copang, is writing a book on the sociology of the ET disclosure discussion.
And how there's a whole sociology behind people's understanding or knowledge or acceptance of the subject matter.
And I can tell you from people coming back here, and I have to take people out with military night vision goggles and UFO sighting tours, a lot of people aren't ready for it.
And I am constantly surprised.
Yes, do I have people come back, tell me their stories, you know, such a jungle hotspot.
People are constantly seeing craft here.
And then these other subjects, too.
But people aren't okay with it.
And there are some that are, but I'm constantly surprised.
And this is one thing I'm constantly talking to Randy about as he's writing this book about the comments and things that I get.
People see it as entertainment value, and they're okay with it for entertainment, but consider it as an absolute...
Reality in a part of their life, they're not ready to go there.
Granted, there are some that are, but it's a constant surprise to me that people, they're truly afraid of the subject matter.
And I have people I deal with every day where I experience this.
And it was really kind of a reality check for me to realize, you know, here we have the citizens hearing that just went on and the work of Steve Bassett.
And I felt behind that.
I think it's wonderful.
But part of me feels like I need to call up Steve and say, hey, look!
You don't realize people have...
They're not ready for this.
I used to think they were.
But now I'm seeing it in people that come back.
And these are people coming to Sedona.
These are open-minded, metaphysical, spiritual people.
They'll come get a psychic reading and a heartbeat, but believe that they can see alien craft or that ETs are here amongst us.
It's purely entertainment to them.
And it's really quite the reality to see this all the time.
But that doesn't mean that I don't still do the work and I don't, you know, I'm taking people out to have fun because seeing is believing.
I see people's paradigms change every time I take someone out.
I share my experience open with people because they're not used to someone saying, yeah, I'm an advocate, whatever, you know, and being very frank about it.
And then they talk to me and they realize, okay, I hope they leave talking to me thinking this person's not crazy, you know, that I find an impact on their belief system.
But that's all we can do.
I mean, that's, and again, I'm totally behind the disclosure movement.
I just think we've got a long, hard road ahead of us.
Well, Linda, don't you think that the movies out there and all of the E.T. stuff, Communion, I mean, don't you think they're much more indoctrinated to the alien agenda than they ever would be at this point in time?
They're indoctrinated to be fearful of it.
That's right.
Yeah.
I never took it that way.
See, that's how weird I am, you guys.
It's a brainwashing thing that's going on.
You know, they're brainwashing the public to believe that the aliens are, you know, ugly reptilian scary things.
Well, I mean, actually, some of them are.
You know, I mean, you know, I just want to say that it's a mixed bag and, you know, it's true.
I mean, you know, look, I did, I don't know, you probably haven't heard my radio show with Stephen Bassett prior to the conference, but he literally, you know, he told me, and we had meetings before he even did the event, he didn't want to get into who was in the craft.
He only wanted to talk about the fact that the craft existed.
In other words, he thought he could keep that off the table.
What happened at the hearings that was so fascinating, and actually I have more interviews to be releasing from the hearing that I did, is that the ex-Congress people and the ex-Senator, even on the first day, were already asking questions, pushing the envelope even on the first day, were already asking questions, pushing the envelope and wanting to I mean, there were areas that they wouldn't go into, and that had to do with basically things like abductions.
The word was said, it was talked about briefly, but there was no real in-depth, and the next thing he wants to do supposedly is a conference that does involve abductions and contact, basically.
But I have to say that he couldn't keep the lid on it, even at that hearing.
And if you listen, all kinds of incredible questions were being asked by these people who were, well, in theory, relatively unknowledgeable.
Although I have to say, behind the scenes, I think certain of those individuals know a lot more than they let on.
So, you know, I agree that certainly you're going to have the people out there.
There's the 144,000, as they say, and we're sort of wide awake and very aware of all of it, but the rest of the people are getting up to speed.
And there is still a huge sort of culture of secrecy around the world.
This topic is being held down.
So, Lorian, when you talk about mind control and super soldiers, sure, this is also going to be very hard for people to take.
And revolutions in this way have to come out because...
Actually, once you open this Pandora's box that involves the UFOs and the visitation, etc., you do open the box for everything.
And ultimately, I think we as humanity are all going there, whether they like it or not.
So, you know, we are the...
The vanguard, if you will.
The catalyst, good word.
And absolutely true.
We've got a very short time.
We've been going almost two hours.
I need to wrap this up in the next less than ten minutes.
So if there's any other comments that anyone wants to make on this topic or another one, please feel free.
Well, I just wanted to pipe in before our final comments, I wanted to tell everybody that we are opening the conference to a live stream and I'm announcing it here on Carrie's show tonight, our special event.
And it's going to be live streamed all day Saturday, all day Sunday.
And possibly Carrie's show next Friday night at 7pm on Revolution Radio.
You'll be able to hear her presentation at the summit if Hawk and I can work out some way to do that.
So I think it would be a lot of fun if Carrie is agreeable to that.
Absolutely.
It's fine with me.
Great.
Okay, so yeah, so we have a lot of fun things in store for you.
It won't be that expensive to watch the event on Saturday and Sunday by live stream, so check it out.
It'll be up on the website on Thursday, the 16th.
The live stream will be ready, and you can buy your tickets for live stream and everything there.
But we'd love to see you there.
I think, Carrie, this is probably going to be one of the most amazing conferences.
The last one was truly amazing for me because I think it changed a lot of people's perspective on how...
Super soldiers are looked at, and it surely helped the super soldiers that were there at the time.
And now by adding the component of mind control and the tagged individuals and the artificial intelligence and all that to this conference, it again is going to change the paradigm of how this is being looked at.
Thanks to you for letting us come on here tonight and help start that catalyst because really by talking about it as a group and experiencers here and at the conference, we're going to make a big dent in how the whole energetics around it is being handled just like Stephen did with his conference too.
There we go.
Absolutely.
So that's my, yeah, that's my spiel.
And go to supersoldiersummit.com, that's supersoldiersummit.com, and you can find out much more information there, and the live stream will be up next Thursday, okay?
Okay, thank you, Lori, and we've got about five minutes for anyone else who wants to say anything?
I just want to say thank you for having me on tonight, Carrie.
I really appreciate it.
It's been a long road.
I first started coming forward with this stuff on the front lines back in 2004, and I was scoffed at.
I even went to court and basically dealt with my handler.
I just want to bring that to people's attention.
We have come a long way through these processes.
So thanks for having me on tonight, and I appreciate it.
Absolutely.
And all of you are welcome to come on my radio show.
So, you know, get in touch with me individually if you'd like.
Very good.
You are welcome to come on my radio show, too.
Awesome.
This is Misha.
I have a radio show, too.
I'd love to have any of you come on.
Well, you know what it sounds like to me?
It sounds like we're going to be exchanging a lot of business cards at the conference next weekend.
Absolutely.
Okay, well, thanks, everyone.
We need to wake up the people in Las Vegas.
You know, Henderson, you know, all of that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, good night, everyone.
Thank you.
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