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05/23/2012 - Laura Magdalene Eisenhower

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	There is a Jaguar outside my door Stretched out in hurry
	Waiting for more Dream sheet is done Deep cat eye green No way to escape No one hears my screen This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio and we are Live on this Wednesday, the 23rd of May, and Laura Magdalene Eisenhower is my guest, and she is here with me now.
	Laura, you want to say hello to everyone?
	Hi everybody, it's good to be here.
	Okay, and Laura, it's lovely to hear your voice again.
	We haven't had a chance to really catch up since, wow, South Africa, I guess.
	I know!
	So happy to be on the show with you, my gosh.
	So yeah, we really did connect in South Africa and had a lot of fun down there as well.
	So it's just great to know you're still out there and that, you know, fighting the good fight, so to speak.
	Right.
	And what I would like to do is have you introduce yourself, say a little bit about your background.
	Some people, of course, are going to know who you are.
	But for the people that don't know, and, you know, the last name is always very glaring, so you're welcome to start there.
	And then kind of tell us what you've been doing for the past Well, really years since you and I last saw each other, so if you want to kind of skim over some stuff that you've been up to lately.
	Great, yeah.
	Well, I use the titles Cosmic Mythologist because that sort of describes how I go into, you know, the soul story, not just the story that we see on the world stage or the You know, the historical facts.
	I like to go into the soul journey.
	So I'm a cosmic mythologist, a global alchemist, a clairvoyant healer, and an artist.
	And basically, my path has been about alchemy and sacred union and living the mythological body of, you know, this planetary body, you know, Gaia, and really understanding deeply Just those energies on a soul level so that, you know, when we're fighting this fight, we can really tap into all that she is and, you know, some of the agendas that are from a much higher place.
	You know, the Source Agenda, the Divine Plan, what the Guardian Alliances are up to, the Federations of Light and what they all mean and where the Deceptions are.
	And so, like everybody else who's trying to figure out this big puzzle, I've jumped into a certain level of it that is Really taken up my whole existence in life since I was a child.
	And so, yeah, that's really, you know, kind of, I guess, you know, a way to describe myself.
	I am very focused on the Venus Path, and that connects with the Venus Transits, and it's, you know, really to bring the feminine power back into balance, and to restore all the missing links, all the things that have been programmed out of us, that have affected our DNA, that have, you know, caused us duality, and have really, you know, turned us against each other.
	So I really work on bringing those energies back so that energetically we can take the leaps and steps that we need to take while also integrating a lot of the truths that have been kept from us.
	And that's why I just resonate so deeply with the whistleblower and then just the movement.
	And I just realized that Project Camelot started in 2006, which was the year I broke free of the Mars recruitment.
	So that's a huge part of my story.
	I was confronted to go to a Mars colony, and it's very wrapped up in the Zeta Gray technologies, time travel, teleportation, looking glass technologies.
	And I chose not to go.
	It was a little bit more than just a choice.
	I really had to break free.
	And so, you know, basically since 2006 I've been kind of recovering from that and really researching and really putting my energy and attention and focus on how to expose these truths and bring some of the deeper story, like I said, the cosmic mythology type stuff, you know, to people's awareness so that we can relate more to how to heal and how to restore so it becomes more personal.
	Um, in this last year since I've seen you, um, just a lot of changes have happened.
	I mean, it was just so huge for me to be there.
	Um, and, and just our connection was incredible, and you really tapped into so much that was important to me, and you just kept me in the flow even though I was jet-lagged, and a lot of the energy of Adam's calendar felt really traumatizing to my system, and I just, you know, hit a lot of difficult energies, and And so on, but it was a huge revelation.
	It was a huge, huge, just amazing experience.
	And so ever since then, you know, I've just been talking, speaking, done a few move-ons and expos and interviews and just, you know, my own life experiences, you know, where I really just delve into just the whole nature of our ascension, just, you know, Where I'm confronted with energy like everybody else and just how I handle it.
	So I bring a lot of that into expression to kind of assist people, you know, based on my own processes just to really connect on that level that we all can connect on.
	So I just continue to do that and I'm working on my book called The Grail of Venus.
	Which is really about, you know, the womb of the mother, the great mother, and her connection to Venus, the fourth chakra, and just, you know, our movement out of this archonic rulership that has manipulated just a small aspect of our being.
	And if we can, you know, recognize that, we can really rise into the totality of all that we are.
	So I just keep researching.
	I keep checking, you know, what's coming in.
	And I do my best to just let it filter through my intuition and what I know to, you know, feel right and true to me.
	And I just keep sharing and just, you know, like love the collaborations and, you know, staying connected to you and everybody.
	And that's just really my passion right now is to just energetically just really be in the momentum, really be in the right vibration and frequency to carry this through.
	And so that's, yeah, that's basically what I've been up to. - Okay, well, you know, and that is a litany of stuff.
	What I want to do is back up just a little and have you talk a little bit about, sort of, and I know it's probably very repetitive for you to go over this stuff, but I know for the listeners out there who didn't hear your, you know, last time you were on my show and so on, they would be curious about how you sort of broke free
	From your family, kind of, I don't know, the overlay that you were born in or came in with, and then also some of the gifts that you came in with as a result of perhaps some of your relationship with your grandfather, for example, etc.
	In other words, I think that that sort of what came before everything that you've just talked about would be of interest to people because they'd be able to see the sort of story arc Absolutely, that's such a good question.
	Yeah, well, I've been preparing since I was young.
	It just had a really weird childhood because I really didn't feel a part of the family in the same sort of way as everybody else.
	I really just wasn't kind of going with the flow of just where the family energy was going.
	And as positive and as loving and supportive, you know, as the family was, I was very much clued into something else.
	And I was having encounters and even visitations from Ike.
	And it was just really confusing.
	what was going on.
	There was just a lot of attention about my future and what I needed to prepare for.
	And I met with, you know, a bunch of beings that were luminous, hairless.
	And I guess every time I see a picture, the ones that they look like the most are Arcturian.
	But I was so young, I didn't really get, you know, the full gist.
	But I just remember them handing me a viewfinder and telling me to look through it and saying that this, you know, seemed to be a timeline.
	I didn't use that term or hear it that way.
	But what seemed to be a timeline I was looking at, they encouraged me to hold on to, to devote myself to and to not lose at all costs.
	And that my life would be about ripping me away from this and that I would not, like, I cannot forget.
	I have to, you know, remember this.
	And so there was about three years of preparation with, you know, these higher beings and all sorts of strange things going on.
	And I was trying to tell my sisters about it, trying to kind of bring the family in and then realize, okay, this is better.
	I just take this on by myself because, you know, this isn't really connecting.
	And some of the deeper insights I was getting about the divine feminine energies and how buried they are wasn't really connecting with anyone either.
	So I just kind of launched on my own journey.
	And a lot of different traumatic experiences happened that sort of further launched me out of my physical body, just a lot of trauma.
	So I kind of took advantage of being out of my physical body.
	And whether it was traumatic events or what seemed to be some sort of targeting or weaponry, I just kind of could not inhabit the physical realm anymore.
	After I had been prepared, you know, and that voice in the back of my head said, remember, you're going to be ripped away from everything.
	You're going to be, you know, there's a level of destruction that I was warned about and almost like a huge death cycle I'd be going through.
	So I really prepared myself and I looked at it as my work and my mission.
	So when I was, you know, kind of out of my body, I just went through all these different dimensional levels and journeys and it seemed to be I was clearing something and I don't know what it was.
	And it wasn't until later, I would say, until before the Mars recruitment when I was at a clairvoyant institute that they helped me understand that it was clearing inorganic entities from wormholes.
	And I said, wow, you know, because I wrote a book about it.
	I said, well, that sounds exactly like what I've been doing.
	And I did write a book, and I'm still working on it.
	So, you know, the preparation was basically about, you know, just these controls that are on the planet and that, you know, there is not a natural organic unfolding that is taking place.
	We are really in a battle right now, as you know more than anybody else, or along with many that we know, you know what I mean.
	We're in a major battle to just really, you know, hold our power, hold our essence, hold our soul in place, and navigate through Just an incredible amount of deception that has been you know in our culture for thousands and thousands of years that is you know taking a new turn every Every day.
	Well, what happens is people are very interested in your path and your life as they would be anybody who has been, well, comes on a radio show and also because of, specifically because your sort of, I don't know, heritage that you came in with.
	And so when you talk about some of the, I don't know, destructive incidents Is there anything specific you know without getting too personal here but you know what I'm saying because people I think would be valuable if you had like a specific incident of any kind that you can relate to because that's really what it's about people are in other words if we talk in generalities they can relate but they don't really know what you mean you don't I mean and so I
	I don't want to spend a whole long time with this and let me also say that we have a chat room on this show so that if you haven't gone to the front page of Project Camelot and you haven't clicked on the live chat and even you, Laura, can do this if you'd like.
	Anyone who listens is welcome to join our chat room.
	If you click on the link it should take you to the chat room and you should be able to just Oh, wow.
	Okay, now something weird is going on.
	Okay, looks like maybe the chat room isn't working.
	I don't know.
	Okay, we're supposed to have a chat room.
	And in the chat room, what happens is there should be an ability, you know, the possibility of joining.
	Wow, there's something very bizarre going on with the site right now.
	Yeah, I'm trying to check it right now.
	I don't know what it is, but to get back to the subject, because, you know, people, again, if you can go into any specifics about, like an incident, which, well, some of the things you're talking about could have come to light in a little more clarity.
	Is there anything specific that you can point to?
	Well, I mean, mostly just...
	Oh, gosh.
	Well, okay.
	You know, there's the physical sort of violations, as we can imagine, on the sexual level.
	There's, you know, violations of, you know, physical abuse, and there's energetic weaponry that, you know, one can't really spot.
	So, I would say that on every level, you know, I've experienced some of that, all of that.
	And it didn't necessarily come from family at all.
	Actually, it didn't.
	And I was just extremely vulnerable.
	And when I realized I couldn't really express a whole lot, I just kept it that way.
	And that's nobody's fault.
	And it's not my fault.
	It's just the way that I ended up playing with the energies.
	That's just the way I chose to deal with it.
	And so, as anybody can probably relate, when you go through a traumatic experience and you're a child, the tendency is to sort of leave.
	And as many people have researched, the trauma-based mind control You know, uh, individuals are put through, um, you know, extreme, you know, abusive situations in order to achieve that result.
	I did not necessarily have those experiences.
	I don't remember having any of those in the sort of, um, arena that, you know, Illuminati families experience, but there was some sort of thing following me.
	There was some sort of thing that had its attention on me, and I couldn't really understand it.
	And so, really bizarre things would happen that would just kind of make it clear that There was something going on that I had some particular mission or some kind of path, and the validation would come just as much as the abusive and dark forces would come.
	So on one end, I would be getting a lot of encouragement from spirit guides, a lot of communication from different psychics and healers and clairvoyants and shamans that I would meet over the years.
	And they would all see this and understand it.
	But then on the other hand, there was just as much darkness and just as much attack to keep this from happening.
	And I know a lot of people can relate to this because when we're really following our truth and our passion, we tend to meet up with incredible obstacles.
	Well, what happened was one of the big obstacles that I ended up running into was this Mars recruitment where it was very clear that I had been followed or targeted with some kind of tracking device because I was found at a festival and an agent was sent and posed as a normal person.
	And I ended up getting engaged to him and not knowing that he had been sent specifically to recruit me to Mars.
	I formed a normal relationship with him, knew about some of the meetings he was going to, knew about the whole concept of Mars, but had no idea that it was connected into these technologies.
	And, you know, into, you know, just the military industrial complex and just the, the, the, this 2012 shift date that we're in was all targeted towards this date.
	So, you know, just to backtrack a little bit, some of the, you know, experiences I had as a kid, you know, the trauma seemed to help me kind of, you know, leave the physical in order to work some of this on a, a, Other dimensional level, you know, something I couldn't do in the physical.
	And it kind of took me back to a remembrance of, you know, in ancient times they used to induce death with like snake bites or some sort of way in order to take this journey.
	So as a, you know, a young person, I was thinking, you know, maybe this is happening to induce some level of death so that I leave and I step out of the programming and the whole matrix itself and then learn to come back in and sort of resurrect myself or restore myself.
	And so when I did come in, I felt like I was in physical therapy.
	I had to teach myself how to really kind of be human again.
	I was so far gone.
	I mean, I don't think people would even recognize me.
	I don't know.
	Well, and how old were you during this time?
	I was age, I would say it really started maybe around nine and ended maybe around 28.
	I got myself back enough.
	When I was pregnant with my twins, That's when I started to really recognize like, oh, I'm okay.
	I am a human.
	I can grow bait.
	Okay.
	You know, it was just sort of like, oh my God, you know, it works.
	I mean, I didn't even think I could have children.
	So finding out I'm having twins was a bit of a shock.
	And of course, you know, it was, it was kind of a unexpected and magical, magical thing.
	And, you know, a miracle in my life.
	Um, I, I was, you know, obviously, uh, You know, I won't get into the details, but the point was, it just, it was kind of a miracle because it really validated the fact that, like, I am in a physical body.
	I can get grounded.
	I can go through whatever I need to go through to have a total human experience.
	And I'm not coming from a place of, well, I'm a higher spirit having, you know, this human experience.
	I went God knows where and came back and it was just simply just trying to function as a human.
	It wasn't like coming down from the 12th dimension trying, you know, we all come from higher places.
	And yes, you know, we're going to You have a break right here.
	Thank you, everyone, and we'll be right back with Laura Eisenhower.
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	Okay, this is Mary Cassidy, Project Camelot.
	Whistleblower Radio.
	And Laura, it's great to hear some of the things that went on behind the scenes with you.
	And I have heard some of them before, but it's always quite fascinating to me.
	To realize, you know, the path that you've had to tread in order to get to this place and how you have actually maintained under some heavy-duty odds, I would say.
	And I don't think you always get credit for that.
	I really appreciate that comment.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	No problem.
	Go right ahead.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It was some incredible odds.
	The thing is, as much as I was kind of out of my body, I was still very conscious, very aware.
	I was able to still go through the motions, and I did accomplish a good deal in this particular reality.
	It's just I wasn't there, and I knew it, and it was painful, and it was difficult.
	The way I really brought myself back was actually just really just crying I just for 20 years straight that's all I could do and I was even bedridden for a while and it was like I was collecting just it was like I was having a breakdown for the collective even though we all break down and I'm sure I'm not the only one who does that that was my way of getting back in it was almost like that was the barrier and it was just that block just that inability to get in and the ability to release and just let it all go and what it all connected with was what got me back and that's actually what helped me find my path.
	It was like everything that moved me and that I longed for and that mattered to me was coming out in all these emotions and I just wrote it and wrote it and it was like it revealed everything I needed to know on top of just really paying attention to certain books coming out and just, you know, Just flipping through and finding, you know, just, okay, I'm not crazy.
	And so, you know, a lot of people think I'm possessed.
	A lot of people, I see the comments and that's great, you know, but I've already put myself through, you know, I've been prodded and poked by psychiatrists, by psychics, by Healers, you know, by everybody, and I've gone, you know, through all sorts of tests with my voice, sound healing, and I've always passed with flying colors.
	I've never been told I'm crazy or even, you know, from all my encounters with, you know, psychics and being in a psychic community for a couple years, nobody once told me that what I was saying was ludicrous or that I was crazy or that it wasn't actually happening.
	And what's funny was I wanted them to say it.
	I really wanted them to tell me that I was nuts because I thought it would be much easier.
	Because, yeah, you know, I could just hang out in an institution.
	I wouldn't have to deal with this path anymore.
	That sounded much better.
	And you could abdicate responsibility, basically.
	Exactly.
	So this is not an easy thing to be doing.
	And, you know, so people can project all they want, but I'm not here to talk and make the mistake of being wrong.
	I spent a couple of years before I opened my mouth to make sure that I was really solid with my information.
	I was solid with myself.
	And I really, you know, was able to, you know, carry this name with me.
	Can you describe how they approached you?
	and with a really solid purpose.
	And so it does connect with the military-industrial complex, this Mars recruitment.
	Well, let's actually go down that road a little bit.
	Can you describe how they approached you?
	And I understand that it was also through another person, right?
	It was through another person.
	I was at a festival.
	Can you hear me okay?
	Because my earpiece is hanging off my... It's kind of broken.
	Yeah, we can hear you.
	Okay, yeah, I was at a festival and somebody I had a very strong affinity with, I met.
	And it just seemed like we just sparked from the beginning and it just flowed really, really well and I just had no doubt that this was, you know, a legitimate, like, partner and this was going to be a good relationship and we were moving in that direction.
	And we had a lot of just past life memories and just you know just really connected.
	And so he would start to go to these meetings and like he was visiting me in DC because I just moved back from California after I just declared to the universe I can't stand these controls on me anymore just take me to whatever they are to make them stop.
	And then lo and behold a couple months later you know this Mars recruitment took place not to mention something very interesting beforehand which you and I should talk about sometime because it's a major disclosure which has to do with um the Philosopher's Stone and things about 2012 that are from an ancient source that has never been published or documented that was handed to me.
	So this is kind of new stuff that you and I haven't talked about that I'd love to share.
	But anyway, so in 2006 when I was at this festival, I'm just vulnerable.
	I'm recovering from a lot, you know, just with the twins and, you know, their dad was a contactee and abductee and all sorts of really disturbing stuff happened with him and it was just really a rough road.
	And so I met him and, like, everything, you know, seemed to be getting better in my life and I was just, you know, hearing about the Mars thing but not really, you know, giving it that much attention.
	Just basically saying, no, I don't want to go to Mars.
	I'm sure we can figure out a way to stay.
	I don't, you know, I have an incredible mission and I know that I'm here to stay on the planet and to help in this ascension process or whatever you want to call it.
	I don't want to get lost in terminologies because some people get really critical, but just our lifting out of this and just our re-emergence into all that we truly are.
	After a while, you know, and all the questions that I was asking, I wasn't really getting anywhere, but I was still just in this relationship, and love is love, and I got engaged, and I moved in with him in North Carolina, moved all the way down there with him, and then started to discover the deeper layers of all this.
	I had a very profound dream, where I was getting taken up into a ship by chains.
	I was in the ocean, and I was getting pulled up by the ship with chains, and I got into the ship, and there was a voice from the sky that said, you know, they're going to take you, and they're going to control you.
	You have a choice.
	And, um, obviously I think I was going to Mars, and that's probably what I concluded in my dream, and I said, you know, of course I'm going to stay.
	I'm not going to go with them.
	And I fell out of the ship and back into the ocean, and it was a very lucid dream.
	I could feel everything.
	I could feel the coldness of the water.
	And I look back up, and the ship's going away, and my partner's still there, so I'm like, well, I gotta go back up and get him!
	And so I shoot, you know, back into the sky, and there's lightning and thunder and clouds, and I can't, and I plunge back into the water.
	And then this voice from the sky says, you made the right choice.
	And even though I was alone and just, you know, really, you know, feeling the loss, I just swam over to the shore, and this alignment happened with the planets, and this gold, you know, organic light filled the sky.
	And I woke up in the morning, and I told him about it, and he was just, like, really startled, like I had just figured something out that I wasn't supposed to figure out.
	And so things really started to get leaked to me on top of the fact that I was getting more and more pulled into this recruitment because I was getting emails sort of about the plan and I said, well, what if I don't want to go?
	I don't want to go.
	He said, oh, but you have to go.
	They'll kidnap you if you don't.
	And like the tone of voice kind of sounded humorous, kind of like, you know, so I was kind of like, Disturbing kind of laughter like, okay, um, they'll kidnap me.
	Great.
	So, so then, you know, my survival instinct is you have to expose these people.
	You have to investigate what they're all about.
	This just, you know, red flag, red flag, red flag.
	This is getting worse.
	We're not getting closer.
	He's disappearing at night.
	He's getting phone calls.
	He's answering to codes and he's gone and he won't tell me where he went.
	He's climbing out of windows.
	It's like everything is accelerating and there's an urgency to get me to go.
	And the more that I'm resisting, the more he's, you know, getting all, Been out of shape.
	But every once in a while, when he wasn't activated, and I noticed, when our frequency was really high together, he was not able to be activated.
	But when we would fall into some sort of stress together, everything would change.
	It was like his lower frequency was basically a target for them to pull him in.
	That's just what my intuition was telling me.
	I'm not sure if that's how it works.
	Okay, well let me interrupt you here to ask you a couple questions.
	First of all, what year was this?
	Do you remember?
	It's 2006-2007.
	Okay.
	And what, do you happen to know what bloodline he was, he was part of?
	Bloodline?
	Well, I know the family last name.
	Was, uh, you know, do you happen to know, for example, you know, uh, not to get too personal here, but do you, you know, in, in terms of, of, of the racial sort of, um, I'm talking about like Irish, English, you know, German, this kind of thing of what descent.
	Right.
	Definitely Irish.
	Okay.
	And was he a blonde, a brunette, redhead, that kind of thing?
	Well, it's kind of like, it seemed like sort of a blondish, strawberry blondish hair.
	It was sort of graying, um, bluish gray eyes.
	And an incredible artist.
	He was like, sort of like a druid.
	I mean, when I first met him before he was really, like, controlled.
	Because, you know, I would get the real him and then I wouldn't.
	So I would, you know... So would you say he was a hybrid?
	Because it sounds like he was a part of the Illuminati bloodline.
	Because if you get...
	You know, the strawberry, when he's younger, you know, was the family, was he a redhead originally when he was young?
	That kind of thing.
	Yeah, I wouldn't say like one of those, you know, really striking redheads, but definitely strawberry blonde and his parents, his father was involved in something military related.
	And, you know, all the members of all the recruiters actually knew him.
	So it was something that seemed to be in his family and that he was born into.
	And that's where I think the trauma began when he was young that split him to allow him to be, you know, him one day and not him the next day.
	And, of course, this was all kind of new to me because I didn't have any background.
	I didn't know anybody had been through anything like this.
	So all I could do was, you know, research the names he was talking about.
	And he kept using the word handler.
	And I wasn't very familiar with that, except for from movies.
	So I was like, handler.
	And he's like, well, you can have a handler too.
	And I'm like, I don't want a handler.
	I'm like, I don't understand like what all this is.
	And I'm like, why aren't I being listened to?
	I'm like, you know, if they're picking me for some specific reason, because what he said to me is, oh, this is to protect you.
	He goes, you know, why are you fighting this?
	We're trying to protect you.
	But yet, you know, the technologies that were involved, you know, and and just the nature of it all and what he was going through.
	I knew that he was being manipulated to believe that he was doing the right thing.
	And so when his friend from Virginia moved into the area to help him with his dad's work, him and I both were picking up on the fact that they were turning him pretty much into a robot, and we were trying to tell him, and he refused to listen.
	I ended up ordering Oregon and, you know, rare earth magnets, and I just did everything I could to help deactivate him.
	And what got leaked to me was, you know, you can't be controlled, but you can be controlled through your heart, and that's why they did this to you.
	And I was, you know, every once in a while I'd get a little bit of information and I would just do what I could with it, and at the same time it's like, can I even trust what I'm hearing?
	You know, they could just, you know, be creating a whole story to just, you know, work in their favor.
	I don't know.
	So, and during this time, though, you had two kids of your own, right?
	Yeah, and I'm all alone.
	I have no family around.
	And, you know, silly me for getting engaged, but there was, you know, that was their plan.
	So, you know, it's not hard to get that hooked in when you have some kind of past life thing.
	And what I ended up finding out from one of the people that weren't totally affiliated with them but were kind of like, you know, kind of a whistleblower for them to me, you know, said that looking glass technologies were able to or some kind of technology.
	That was the name that I remember.
	It might have been a different one because they mentioned Orion's Cube and looking glass technology.
	I haven't really heard much about Orion's Cube since.
	But they were able to see that we had been in a relationship in a past life, and they targeted us because they knew that we would naturally fall for each other.
	But the thing was they already had them in their grips.
	So me falling in love would trap me into wanting to go with him.
	And so, what I had to do was basically cut off my heart connection and push away the whole Mars recruitment and then figure out a way to try and help him and pull him away from it.
	But I realized this is larger than I can do.
	So, I'm going to address the whole thing so I can help everybody that's like him because I can't just help him alone, you know?
	I need to join with you guys and everybody else.
	And I hadn't, you know, seen Project Camelot.
	I didn't know anybody else.
	You know, to relate to on this.
	But I had this instinct that the only way I can break free from this is to expose them.
	And because my phones were always clicking and he said, you know, there's webcams everywhere, we're being followed.
	Okay, everyone's, okay, he would go from being their agent to being my partner who wanted to help me and rescue me from them.
	And he would tell me what they were up to and why they targeted me.
	Then all of a sudden, the next thing you know, you don't have a choice.
	This is to protect you.
	So he would go back and forth, which was extremely confusing.
	And every time, like, he would get, you know, he would get a transmission, he called it.
	He said that the patrons were talking to him.
	He would leave the house and talk to some sort of extraterrestrial race.
	I got a feeling it was artificial telepathy.
	I'm like, this is not a real communication happening here because I just had this feeling.
	And, um...
	So he would come back and and the boys and I and my dog would get sick like violently like throwing up just like really sick from whatever he was emitting and his behavior changes and everything was just just tear everything apart and like it was just a mess and so I just I figured there's not a whole lot I can do I don't really know how I'm gonna get out of this I'm stuck here I'm engaged I don't you know I I'm trying to like connect with family he's already met the family and kind of it was just all really weird
	And so I decided that I'll just talk about this over the phone with my friend because as long as they know that I know what they're up to, then they're going to want to kind of probably distance themselves from me.
	I wasn't supposed to find out what they're up to because, you know, at the time when I was researching their names, there wasn't anybody exposing them.
	There was no website.
	There was no anything about them.
	And so I just, I wouldn't stop researching.
	And so the first things that I saw were their names connected to legitimate jobs, like a physicist in Austin, you know, occupations that are well respected, that people, you know, they're kind of revered in a lot of their circles.
	And so I'm seeing all this and I'm like, this still is not right.
	There's something wrong here.
	You know, especially when you're up close and personal in a relationship and you can tell that your partner is being massively affected by a group of people, it's like, You know, nobody can convince you that everything's okay when you're that up close and personal.
	So, I just kept researching, and after about two weeks, I'd gone on some site.
	I think the name was Paul Benowitz.
	He had some case connected to him, and I saw a name that he had related to that was a name that I recognized from what my ex had been talking about.
	And then something linked to it, and then all of a sudden all those names that were familiar to me that he had mentioned were connected to harp technologies, ELF, artificial telepathy, and all these things that I was suspecting.
	And this is pretty much after I moved away from the house.
	I found a neighbor who was selling their house, and I said, you know, I've got to rent this.
	I've got to get out of this house.
	It's really bad.
	And so me and the boys had moved, and so I was already kind of getting myself out.
	And then when I discovered the names and saw them connected to this stuff and really just understood what these technologies were about, very well aware that there were these dark technologies on the planet but just couldn't put a name and face to it, I was like, oh, my gosh, you know, this is it.
	And it really gave me the strength to break free even more because then I knew, you know, it wasn't a mystery anymore.
	And even if there was some disinfo out on them, it was validating enough to know that these guys are up to no good.
	Whether they know it or not, I don't know.
	The thing, as you know, you know, a lot of people are led into Yes.
	you know, careers and paths where they're serving the dark side without really knowing it.
	So I know a small number of them knew exactly what they were doing, but most of their agents did not at all and were very vulnerable and really thinking they were doing the right thing.
	And so that's really the basis of it.
	I just kept exposing and then, you know, I, you know, friended Alfred Weber and I told him my story.
	He was working with, you know, Andrew Bishago and they were, you know, talking about the Mars stuff.
	I said, yes, you know, I was recruited to this Mars colony.
	And, um, you know, I tell them about the conversations, you know, the only real insights I got were, you know, from listening in, you know, I, I heard conversations about terraforming.
	Um, but like there was this other dialogue, you know, from the manipulators and they said, they totally have your ex under their control and there's nothing you can do about it.
	And, you know, of course, you know, after the recruitment and I got away from it, all I could do was research, and that's what I've been doing till this day to put the dots together.
	Okay, we'll go to a break right now.
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	Okay, Laura, so right before the break, you were basically telling about how you kind of tapped into the fact that you were being surveilled and you had gotten away from this individual, et cetera, et cetera.
	And I think that lots of people can relate there is a way of holding on to people through their relationships with others, right?
	so so this is fairly common and and and it Do you, I would attribute your success to some degree because of your psychic sensitivity to being able to sort of discern what was sort of fake and what was real and your own input that you were getting on an internal level as having a lot to do with actually sort of saving you from all of this.
	That's absolutely what saved me from all this because I didn't have You know, anybody to, you know, say, that's probably not a good idea, you shouldn't go.
	Um, I didn't, I, first of all, they said, you know, please don't talk about this.
	Um, but that, of course, I'm not going to listen to, but the people, you know, that were close enough to me that I did talk to really encouraged me.
	Like, oh, that sounds so exciting.
	You know, they, you know, people are so quick to jump on what sounds exciting and, oh, I'm sure, you know, this is a great opportunity.
	People tend to not want to look at the deeper layers or even understand that, like, this level of darkness does exist.
	And as positive beings as we are and as filled with love as we are, you know, I'm not here to sugarcoat anything.
	And, you know, the positive timeline and the ascension path is a grueling and very challenging and difficult one.
	But if you know who you are, it's not going to be that hard.
	And that's the one thing that I had on my side.
	I lived in the wilderness for years.
	I had fasted.
	I had done a lot of things that had put me in a deep, deep, deep sense of self-awareness.
	And that was part of the preparation.
	I, you know, I was living in D.C.
	and what am I going to do for college?
	I'm like, I need to just, like, get clear of all this energy, you know, because I barely survived my childhood.
	So I just put myself in the wilderness for a couple years and trained as an expedition leader and did really, really well in that field because there's not a lot of, you know, interference and attack and weaponry when you're out there.
	So that's where I found myself and I found my strength.
	And then, of course, upon coming back, you know, I was just very, you know, broken down over the years and just really, yeah, I mean, against the odds, just, you know, stayed close to my truth and made it to where I am today.
	And no, it hasn't been an easy road, but this is really our story.
	This is, you know, I'm just one of many that are really pushing against a lot of opposition and a lot of controls.
	And for some reason they wanted me on Mars, and it had to do with my connection to the Venus path, and just the feminine energies, or just the fact that I devoted myself so much to it, that they wanted to, they said, to help them reseed a new civilization on Mars.
	And a lot of the things that they said sounded like a good idea, and like I respect, you know, having a human genome, and protecting the human genome, and inhabiting other planets, but not under that kind of control and rulership, because it's from the negative Sure.
	You know, agendas that are, yeah, that connect with, you know, 11-strand DNA, you know, just absolute and total control.
	So when somebody like me who's just been so prepared and just so in tune with what my path here is, anything that tells me to do differently is a major, like, no way.
	And that's how it was.
	I screamed.
	I cried.
	Nobody could convince me.
	It was just like, forget it.
	I mean, I was out of control.
	I was inconsolable even.
	Just out of curiosity, did you consult with any family members about what was going on during this time?
	I did.
	Once I really broke free, I told my mother, and I was actually meeting one of them when I was visiting her in the lobby to get some answers.
	And I said, well, Mom, one of them is meeting me downstairs.
	If you really don't believe me, it's not that she didn't believe me, but I was still trying to get answers.
	I probably took a lot of risk trying to get some answers to talk to these people.
	What the hell was that all about?
	And so she saw this happen.
	She met my ex and she definitely, you know, knows that this was all going down.
	And so she's, you know, been trying to do her best to sort of help me and bridge all of this.
	But in this position she is in, it's extremely difficult.
	So I've really just Let all that go and I'm just really working on this on my own.
	I know that My family still is convinced that he went to a dentist appointment in Palm Springs So I can't get very far with them, you know, and I'm the only one that'll declare I don't think so You know, I'm the only Eisenhower that is willing to talk about extraterrestrials and this aspect of the Eisenhower administration and for you know whole family line to only have one person and
	You know, it's really weird, and so, as loving and supportive as everybody is, and I have nothing bad to say about any of my family members, it's really freaky to just, you know, take this part of it on.
	I would love their support, you know, and so, um, it's not their territory.
	This is what I came to do with, with a different type of family, which is all those that are working to expose this, and, um, you know, our cast is, yeah, and that's the nature of the cast.
	Well, okay.
	And at this point, what I want to do is kind of change gears with you.
	And at some point, what we'll do is also open it up to questions so that people can, you know, actually dialogue with you and see if there's anything out there that they want to ask.
	Certainly, as everyone knows now, that our site did come back up.
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	But what I'd like to talk about now, Laura, is actually going into 2012 because we are in 2012 and we have This sort of potential, I don't know, whatever you want to call it, on December 21st, 2012, some alignments that are happening, some major things.
	We just got through a very interesting solar eclipse that I was in Shasta for, and I see that you're going to be in Shasta, I guess, next weekend, a week from this week, right?
	Right.
	And I'm going to be at ConspiracyCon at that same time, so it's interesting how there's a lot of events going on This summer and right now and people are feeling very motivated to kind of get into groups and and share their stories and share their their truths so to speak and I think that there is a reason for that for bonding with others at this time but I I just wondered if you'd talk about how you see maybe going into the end of the year and some of the things that are going on.
	It's just incredible.
	You know, the eclipse really just, it's an eclipse before, you know, the Venus transit, which is the only Venus, the last Venus transit that we'll ever experience in this lifetime.
	And so this really, I feel, launched what's ahead for us because the effect of eclipse lasts about six months or more, whereas, you know, normal moon cycles, the effects of them last, you know, only a month.
	But then again, you know, we're working with a moon that's not really a real moon and, like, the whole cosmos isn't really what we think it is.
	But yet there are these deep energetic connections that are in our ancient, you know, memories that are in our blood that are in our, you know, the breath of life that we breathe that connect us on an energetic level to the higher octaves of these celestial bodies.
	And so what I was discovering during this eclipse time was, you know, it's right on the central star of the Pleiades and the seven sisters.
	And so this particular sister has to do with, her energy had to do with losing love and wanting to kill herself because she lost love.
	And as she, you know, takes the plunge, she turns into a bird and meets and greets, you know, her love that she lost, who had died in a boating thing.
	He had sailed off from her.
	And so, it's really about tragedy.
	And so, when we look at, you know, the human condition and the collective, we are dealing with, you know, a lot of loss.
	We're waking up to very uncomfortable truths.
	You know, the nature of reality that we thought we could count on or, you know, maybe got comfortable with is not what it seems.
	And so, I kind of relate it to, you know, just that loss.
	And, you know, many people may be feeling on the brink of Doing something extreme.
	You know, we've all had thoughts of taking our lives and, you know, a lot of people, you know, go through with it.
	And so there was a conjunction to that sister that was a very profound healing energy of an asteroid.
	I think her name was Agen or something like that, which was really breathing a lot of nurturing and compassionate energy so that she could get through it and just, you know, get to the other side.
	And Neptune squared this this star as well.
	And Neptune rules, you know, the sinner or the saint.
	If you're really pressed hard with difficult negative energies, one can just go berserk and turn evil.
	And if one is pushed with adversity and challenges, they can get closer and closer to God.
	It depends on the individual.
	So the eclipse really represented a chance for the individual within the collective to decide how they're going to handle, you know, not only the difficult truths that are coming in, but just the shift.
	You know, how much do you resist love coming in?
	How much do you want to destroy that opportunity because you want to buy into a programming or status or all these, you know, ego games and manipulations of our old wounds?
	You know, we were really presented with a powerful choice, you know, to take a step forward in our spiritual evolution and consciousness or to take a step down and play into the games even more in the destruction, either becoming an agent or a slave to what's happening.
	So, I mean, I just want to stop you right there because what, you know, I was in Shasta and I was very struck by some people's interpretation of this solar eclipse and what was going on.
	And one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about was whether or not you sort of were tapping into this very interesting polarity that was happening.
	If you look at the big, the lineup of the eclipse, what happens is you've got the Earth You've got the Moon in between the Earth and the Sun, and behind the Sun you've got the Pleiades.
	A lot of people are thinking this is an alignment somehow, this is very positive, etc., etc., and I'm actually not seeing that.
	I am seeing the Moon stepping in between the Earth and the Sun.
	The Sun, solar energy, which is a path to enlightenment, and also the Pleiades, which is sort of taking a stand against the Moon energy, which has been a very negatively motivated planet.
	We'll have to come back after the break and talk about this more.
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	And we're talking to Laura Eisenhower.
	Laura, right before the break I was going over some of the impact of the solar eclipse in where I was in Mount Shasta and some of the thoughts that occurred to me.
	I also got a contact from what appeared to be the Telos who are in the mountain itself and appear to be an ancient race that inhabit the mountain and were also talking to me Um, sort of non-verbally more than anything about the fact that there is an interference, uh, that there is a negative, uh, sort of cast over going on, uh, and a struggle for the Stargate in Mount Shasta.
	Um, and I was wondering whether or not you were also noticing that what I was seeing in this, in this very interesting lineup was the sort of, um, casting down of the sword and basically taking a stand and saying, you know, we're taking a stand here and no further.
	In other words, of the Pleiades and the Sun sort of uniting and having a throughway there, whereas the Earth was on the other side, okay, shielded by the Moon and kept away, but that there was a very clear sort of stance going on, even kind of an opposition, if you might call it that.
	And basically, the ancient battle that has been going on with the Pleiades and the Dracos, I think, factors into this whole scenario.
	And I just wondered, and I do think that they are taking a stand for the Earth, but the Moon is an interfering body, unfortunately, even though there are some Maybe on an emotional level, there are some attachments that humans have to the moon.
	I think David Icke is quite right about it being a hollow shell, and I've remote viewed it and seen these specific kinds of beings that are up there.
	Anyway, I was just wondering if you had any thoughts about all that.
	Oh, I just got the goosebumps the whole time you were talking.
	Yeah, I mean, I really, you know, it's not just an eclipse and just, you know, an amazing thing to watch.
	I mean, I was really feeling a lot of that, too.
	The polarity, the fact that, you know, it's going to take a really strong individual to be able to kind of see what you're talking about and, like, kind of put one's attention beyond the lunar energies and rise to that higher octave or kind of the bigger picture of what's You know, we're trying to be, you know, kind of protected from or steered towards.
	And so the Neptune Square, you know, to the Sun seemed to be, you know, a huge factor because the Neptune Square, you know, is deception and it's the dark forces.
	And the energy or archetype that was aligned with Neptune is connected to government conspiracy and dark agendas.
	And if I had that That name, actually I could probably find it, but that's, you know, gonna take too much time.
	I could get the name of that particular archetype.
	I mean, you're absolutely, I mean, what you're, and your psychic-ness is, I just completely trust, because when I was in Adam's Calendar with you, it was just really amazing to see.
	Um, so yeah, I mean, I was really, you know, feeling a lot of that, and just remembering, you know, watching the whole eclipse happen, and staying really focused, and just letting the slate get clean.
	I'm like, the old paradigm is going, the new paradigm is coming in, but, and I'm like, well, what about the masses?
	Because this is a time where they can be even more heavily deceived, because, of course, God knows the kind of rituals and energies and darkness that they're, you know, using in this time.
	And so I was just kind of tapping in and like, you know, using my clairvoyance to sort of see, you know, where we are as far as this polarity and how is it hitting people.
	And I saw a lot more, much more light and awareness hitting than darkness.
	But it's like the dark gets darker and the light gets lighter.
	And it's like, okay, bifurcation is something, you know, it seems that we're always playing with you know, the whole alchemy and the whole transformation of this particular 3D realm or a total bifurcation.
	I mean, it's so much of a mystery, but, you know, the beauty is we get to just be in charge of ourselves on an individual level.
	And as much as we want our families and friends to join us, you know, as long as we're resonating on a similar frequency, we don't have to get too lost in the information because people like you and I are good at doing that, you know.
	I mean, we don't get lost in it, though.
	We bring clarity to the information.
	I guess what I mean is, you know, our job would be more to, you know, handle the information and bring it to light as much as possible for people to then make a choice.
	Absolutely.
	Well, it is very, very interesting.
	I think now coming into this coming weekend, right?
	This is the Venus transit and I guess it's transiting over the sun from what I understand.
	And I'll There is, um, Sean David Morton was saying, you know, actually Venus is retrograde, and if I understood it correctly, he's actually saying it's not going to go the same path, like some people think it's going to, from right to left, which is like the normal transit, but actually it's going from left to right.
	Right.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, yeah, it's in retrograde and it's conjunct Saturn, so, um, yeah, and the beauty is, though, um, even though the retrogrades are there and there's, you know, obviously Very often cycles of retrogrades, it draws a perfect pentagram in the sky.
	If one draws a line to everywhere that Venus goes in the sky, during it's, I think it's 120 years, it's 8, occurs as a pair spaced 8 years apart every 120 years, including those retrogrades, it draws a perfect pentagram in the sky.
	And so what I've always tried to communicate or what I've intuitively picked up on is that the Venus transits is the divine feminine within all that's rising.
	And that her path has been going into the underworld and out again like the morning and evening star.
	And that pathway of going into the depths of our soul and understanding the truth from within is very much a part of this shift time and helping us get to the next level.
	And so if a pentagram is being drawn perfectly in the sky, this counteracts the inverted pentagram that the Illuminati is focused on.
	And when we can really just understand Venus and kind of embody, you know, the heart chakra energy, we are capable of lifting the inverted pentagram upright again, which, you know, puts the star point Well, what I wanted to say here was that, you know, what occurs to me with the retrograde is the fact that, you know, in a certain sense that there is a time to look back over one's sort of life in terms of the heart.
	here was that you know what what occurs to me with the retrograde is the fact that uh you know in a certain sense that there is a time to look back over one's sort of life in in terms of the heart yes so it's so it's through that that that um sort of uh filter if you will that that we're looking uh back and what i'm noticing and i don't know if this is true for other people
	but what i'm noticing about this time is that there is a lot of things coming back from the past into the present Yes.
	Yeah, those retrogrades, definitely.
	And this was a great time to have a Venus retrograde because, you know, a lot of people kind of put a negative stigma on a retrograde, but it's really a time of going inward.
	It's really a chance to clean house and to kind of track, you know, where things might have gotten off or out of balance.
	And it's just a time to just really bring the love inward.
	You know, we're always kind of, you know, sharing love and giving love, but it's a time to just really bring that energy in and sort out, you know, Just the way the past has been.
	And kind of review it to kind of clear the slate and make more room for just more light that's coming in.
	Because of course we have to move from carbon-based to silicon, or crystalline, excuse me.
	Silicon, like, no.
	Yeah, like, no.
	That's like absolutely what we don't want.
	Yeah, to crystalline form.
	And so this transmutation process is very much connected to the Venus transits.
	I mean, you know, anybody can question what I say.
	I feel this, you know, but there's always gray areas.
	This is just, you know, a truth I stand by, but it's absolutely and totally flexible at all times.
	Well, okay, but what I wanted to say was, what appears to be happening with this Venus transit on, what is the 6th of June, I guess, to be exact, And then there's the Venus is retrograde to a certain point, like I think it's four months or something.
	And then we come to December 21st, 2012.
	And I'm not sure where Venus is in relation to that whole sort of situation at that time.
	But it occurs to me that at some point in there, Venus goes direct.
	And so there has to be a shift.
	Right.
	Venus goes direct June 27th.
	So it's not going to be that long in retrograde.
	Okay, I didn't understand that.
	So it is only for a month or so?
	Yeah, it's a lot less than... I mean, it's pretty much around the same as Mercury because all the planets closer to the Earth have much shorter retrograde periods.
	But yeah, it's the end of the month.
	It comes back out of retrograde, and then by the time, you know, December 21st hits, you know, Earth, Sun, and Venus will all be in alignment for about seven hours or so, which, you know, is an incredible opportunity, just like the Venus transits is, to pull in as much of this as we can, you know, from the ground up and from the skies down, because, you know, the feet chakras will draw in the Earth energy from Mother Earth, and then, of course, the Cosmic Mother energy from above.
	For Venus, and this is crucial because this is of course where their, this is their target time to throw us off the most, is what we're experiencing right now.
	And so many people are doing really, really well, but I know a lot of people that are being institutionalized, and people are losing their minds, you know.
	So some people are doing well, some people aren't.
	People that I'm surprised aren't doing well.
	This weekend, you know, when I did this conference, Sean David Morton was there and he has noticed or sort of highlighted a very interesting alignment that's happening with Mercury, Venus and Saturn over the three pyramids that has happened actually on December 3rd.
	That hasn't happened for 10,000 years and won't happen again for 28,000 years.
	And it's something that hasn't been noticed, I think, by most people.
	In other words, we're, most of us, focusing on the 21st of December.
	This is another, it has to do with Orion's Belt and the locations of the pyramids and an alignment that goes on.
	again, between Mercury, Venus, and Saturn.
	So over the pyramids itself.
	And the pyramids being, on a certain level, the fulcrum, and especially the Great Pyramid, of course, being an ascension, what is an ascension machine.
	So there's something very interesting going on with all of that, and six months after the one on the sixth, right?
	So, I just wanted to sort of draw your attention to that.
	Now, we've got some callers here, and I did say we would take calls on the second hour.
	So, unless you want to just, if you had something else to say in regard to what I just said, please do so, and then we'll take one of the callers.
	No, I mean, because I just know that we could go on forever, so I might as well just save it for another time.
	Okay.
	All right, so let's see.
	We've got a caller, area code 705.
	You're on the air with Laura Eisenhower and Carrie Cassidy.
	Hi, Carrie.
	Hi there.
	And Laura.
	Hi, Carrie and Laura.
	This is Ryan from Barrie, Ontario, Canada.
	Hi there.
	There's a few things I wanted to say.
	One thing, I always get nervous when I do these calls to Iron Body Extract.
	That stuff's great.
	And another thing is about ancient times and Mars.
	I do believe as well there's something there.
	Big War happened.
	Kind of migrated to Earth.
	Some things are still kind of evolved from here.
	But one thing I want to talk about is 2012 and They talk about the celestial planets.
	We're all going to realign to the Milky Way.
	One thing I just wanted to put out there briefly is how souls can travel through planets, and we can all, you know, after all religions, they say, oh, well, I'm not religious, right?
	That sort.
	We're able to go back to the heavens, or at least the souls can, because they can instantly teleport, so to speak.
	And I'd like to hear anything you guys have to feel about the 21st and I was saying, like, all the souls that have dwelt here for 50,000 years.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, go ahead, Laura.
	Do you want to address that?
	Well, yeah, I mean, we're dealing with, you know, you mentioned the ancient battle, you know, with the whole, you know, the way the asteroid belt was formed, and, you know, where our moon comes from, and just, you know, what happened on Earth, and the frequency barrier, and just all the, you know, manipulation and genetics.
	Um, are one thing, but then, of course, consciousness is another.
	We have the physical, and then we have the energetic.
	The physical has been, you know, obviously harmed, poisoned, uh, massively targeted, and, um, afflicted.
	But on a spirit level, um, and consciousness speaking, you know, the shift is really about getting in touch with that in order to change the physical reality.
	To come from the spirit consciousness first, to change the physical reality, rather than get caught up in science and physics in order to, you know, get everything back.
	Of course, the Illuminati is more concerned about survival of the flesh than evolution of the soul, and that's why Earth is the prize, and everybody wants to inhabit Earth, and their technologies create immortality.
	So, for us to be able to journey as souls like we used to, we have to initiate ourselves out of any sort of hook that we have to these agendas.
	And so, it takes a lot of radical self, just soul work.
	Just observation to transform and to really pay attention to our energies because, yes, the window of opportunity is open.
	The natural stargates opening the windows 2000 to 2025.
	But the window for the Illuminati to actually succeed is much smaller, but it's open right now, from what I hear.
	The thing is, I guess to simplify this, the natural stargates are connected to our chakra system, it's connected to the halls of Amenti and the whole grid of our planetary body and how it connects to universal energy and multi-dimensional reality.
	For us to achieve this, we have to work on our own chakra system.
	We have to understand the connection in us to all of this.
	And so, this is not just some reality that's going to be delivered to us.
	Oh, are we going to ascend or are not we going to ascend?
	Is it up to their war that we're caught in the middle of?
	Yes and no.
	We are carrying the archetypal imprints of all these different energies and all these battles within us.
	And so, even though we're in the middle, we don't have to be in the middle.
	This is when, you know, we step up, like seeing two parents fight and saying, I'm not going to, you know, be in the middle anymore because we, you know, embody the energies of everything that's ever happened before.
	And we're, you know, caught in the middle because we've been dumbed down to be lesser than we are on a belief level.
	When we get our beliefs back, which is what this eclipse was about, to break old beliefs and to really, you know, understand the difference between truth and divine reality, this is the challenge that we're up against.
	And for us to be able to really do what you're saying, there has to be a radical shift in our belief and abilities, our belief in our abilities to do such a thing.
	Very, very wisely said.
	Yeah, I think that's a great summation, Laura.
	In a certain amount of words, she's really sort of nailed it.
	And I know it went by really fast, but I think it's excellent.
	So thank you very much, Collar.
	I don't know if that answers your question.
	To the level that you were hoping to get or whether, you know, went far beyond that.
	But, um, we do have one thing is kind of a metaphor for each thing is, uh, I was actually on Vinny Eastwood's show and I called him for the first time today as well.
	And I said to him, um, we come to this life, uh, uh, having nothing, we leave the world with nothing and everything else is blown knowledge.
	I don't say that's like one spectrum of the thing.
	And then the other spectrum is, it's almost like when you leave out-of-body experience, you're not using your quantum brain, so it's kind of a different experience, and I just wanted to throw that out there.
	All right, thanks.
	We're going to break.
	We'll be right back and take another call.
	Thank you.
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	Okay, this is Jerry Cassidy, this is Jerry Cassidy, Project Camelot.
	whistleblower radio and we are talking Oh, no.
	To Laura Eisenhower, and we're actually coming very close to the last half hour of the show.
	I just want to say again, Laura, you know, it's just so, I don't know, gratifying to hear someone else, besides myself, talk about the importance of the choice that is before us.
	In other words, and what I call it, it's the choice between The angelic human heritage that we have and also robotic Superman and there are choices along those lines that you were you were talking about which has to do with the technology and and and what in essence the
	Well, the Anunnaki have chosen, which has to do with, in other words, manipulating the length of their life using things like monatomic gold and other methods and also enhancing the physicality using, you know, super soldiers, so-called technologies, etc.
	And these are choices that really come from the very male paradigm.
	That Venus and the rise of Divine Feminine are rebelling against and a lot of people don't realize that those are the choices at hand and that the Illuminati have chosen.
	And so it was just really great to hear you talk about that because a lot of people just don't, in other words, they're confused about it.
	And there is a desire to understand that technology can serve us.
	So it's not like you necessarily have to throw technology completely out.
	But if you begin to use that as your path to eternal life and your path to well, to the higher mind and in essence ascension, then we've got a problem because that's the Luciferian path. - Exactly, and it's cheating.
	And that's the whole reason that those energies are so deceptive.
	It doesn't get to it the real way and it creates a lot of destruction just like the use of these technologies, you know, leads to a ton of destruction.
	And yeah, it's just crucial that people understand the level of soul work that it takes They kind of think, like, oh, we'll see what happens, but they don't change their life.
	They don't notice where they're feeding the dark agendas.
	They don't realize, you know, that their sexual energy, their emotional energy, the way they treat their partners, the way they treat their... I mean, all of it, you know, is used and, like, harvested, and they can actually, you know, clone you and take your soul and put you in a whole other timeline.
	You won't even know what the hell happened.
	And we're in a fight for our soul here, and, like, You know, people are so kind of, you know, tapping into information, listening to information, but you look at these threads and some of the mentalities that people have, and here they are complaining about everything, but they don't even know how to be a decent, respectful human being.
	And it's like they are so far away from getting, like, how to get away from all this, the very stuff that they complain about and are fighting, they haven't even taken the first step.
	So, I just really encourage people to understand that it's not about religion, it's simply about understanding what the higher chakras are all about and what they open up for us, and how much they can inform our lower self and our ego self of how to get out of this game.
	And if we don't start listening to it, we're going to be trapped and we're going to be led astray into all the different things that are going to seem to be exciting and wonderful and new, but there's a big price to pay.
	And so yeah, the organic creation is where all these technologies have mimicked.
	They've mimicked everything.
	And so it's not that we can't get in touch with these abilities, we're made of these abilities, but they're being handed back to us in a way that distorts everything.
	It's like we're being given a distorted version of the truth, even, and that's why, you know, religion is such.
	Because we're getting close to the archetypes, we feel a connection with the Christ energy and the story, yet it's just screwed up enough to make us lose connection with that force within ourselves, so that we continue to look outside of ourselves.
	And that goes with technology.
	It goes with, you know, the sex industries.
	It goes with everything under the sun that pulls us out of, you know, just a deep reverence for the sacredness of life and the sacredness of, like, what we're made of and what our relationships truly mean.
	And we're treating it like shit, and we treat this earth that way.
	And so, you know, I don't really, you know, I can't really feel sorry for the people that go around continuing to do this and then still complain.
	Absolutely.
	And I have to say that, you know, you have a lovely gift with words, and I just wish more people would sort of be aware of your tremendous gifts.
	And I hope that there's ways that we can get you out there I know that you're going to attempt to try to join us on the Egypt trip, and I think having your energies there would just be such a wonderful blessing for everyone, so I do hope that can happen.
	I'm really working on it, definitely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I think that your clarity is just so refreshing and so rare.
	So very, very rare.
	And scientists that are listening to this, scientists that are trying to find their way back, who have been working on black projects and dedicating themselves to the dark side, giving their wonderful sort of gifts to the dark side so that these things can materialize so that a certain very false agenda can be fulfilled.
	They need to reexamine their priorities at this time.
	And that goes for people in law enforcement, et cetera, et cetera.
	Okay.
	I'm so glad you said that.
	Yes.
	We have some more callers.
	So I want to bring those people in if you don't mind.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So area code 619, you're on the air with Laura Eisenhower and Carrie Cassidy. - Hi Laura, hi Keri, this is Donya.
	Hi, how are you?
	I just wanted to comment about you saying we're going into a crystalline stage.
	That's very interesting because, well, I think we travel by becoming a higher vibration, so to speak.
	So, I was wondering if you had any more information on that, on how the body perhaps transforms, maybe more chromosomes, or, you know, becomes a higher vibrational frequency of light?
	Right, well, I mean, everything is really surrounded, I mean, everything is connected to, you know, DNA in a sense, and in my viewpoint, you know, we have damaged DNA, but it's damaged not because we inherited heart disease, but we inherit behavior patterns, we inherit belief systems, And we inherit all sorts of things that undermine our ability to have it fully activated.
	And so the way to solve it is, you know, to really expand one's awareness and to, you know, lighten the load, so to speak.
	I mean, when we think of angels and we think of higher dimensions, there's less gravity.
	And why is there less gravity?
	Because there's less heavy emotions, there's no drama, there's no competition, there's no ego, and it's like we need to really recognize what are the forces, I mean, what are the frequencies of higher consciousness?
	What does it look like?
	What does it feel like?
	How can we allow our physical selves to be informed by this energy that is ours to create this sort of shift, to upgrade our DNA?
	Because, basically, there's an attack on the 12-strand DNA, and the agenda is all about, you know, keeping us at 11-strand, or keeping, you know, the fallen races are working with 10-11-strand DNA, we're looking to get to 12-strand DNA, and that's what all this control of the Stargates has to do with.
	So, for us to transform it, for our physical bodies to be able to handle it, we have to think about our diet, we have to really purge and cleanse.
	A lot of this heavy energy, we're making more room for light.
	And so, if we're making more room for joy, we gotta kick out all the stuff that has a problem with joy, that has a problem with spirit, that has a problem with love, and recognize in our life Where do we resist love?
	Where are we repelled by spirit?
	Where do we, you know, choose, you know, the Big Mac instead of the raw food?
	You know, where are we slipping all the time because of addictions and because of survival fears?
	You know, we gotta just get out of the game because we are so much more than our lower three chakras.
	We've got, like, a ton.
	And when your vibration vibrates to a certain frequency, the junk DNA plugs into your DNA and you become more than just the 10% of your brain.
	You connect DNA all the way to the source if you want it to go there, through a heart, through a love and compassion.
	It works.
	And there's been a rescue mission set in place, I guess you could call it that.
	The divine spark of the Creator is within all.
	And the potential is within all.
	And we just simply need to tap into it.
	There's nobody that's been left behind, even the darkest of beings.
	And also the junk DNA was a protective measure for it to be reactivated later.
	And supposedly the Syrian DNA is not detectable so that the lower beings cannot manipulate those of Syrian DNA.
	But that's just what I heard from a good source.
	The point is, yeah, it's like turning lead to gold.
	It's just the frequency.
	When something reaches a critical point, you know, it's going to become a new form, just like a butterfly.
	We're in a natural unfolding.
	That's what I was going to start out with, because the butterfly said, to travel between the worlds, you become liquid light.
	And through histolysis inside the cocoon they turn to liquid so then they can morph to the next field easier.
	So we're becoming more crystalline in that same nature and nature is giving us that lesson by watching the butterfly do it within our lifetime, like 72 days according to our 72 years of average lifespan.
	So they are definitely a teacher for me.
	Well, I think that there's also the thing that people have to understand is that moving into your light body will protect you from the negative, from anything that is happening on the earth right now, and that includes things like radiation, etc., etc.
	In other words, we have the ability to transmute reality around us so that it doesn't just go one way.
	A lot of people feel, oh, you know, Fukushima is going meltdown and that's it for humanity.
	It's not.
	Not if we don't want it to be.
	We can turn that around because we transmute the energies around us.
	And you've seen the test with water.
	You've seen all that Masuo Emoto talks about.
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	And if we do that on the time when people are at these pyramid sites, that would be very beneficial for everyone around the entire planet.
	I mean, that word should get out by, you know, whoever's there, tap into the others to make that whole nodal structure vibrate.
	And what I also want people to understand about this is that we go to places that do have dark energies on purpose because we bring our light to transmute and change it.
	You know what, Terri?
	I have connected with that unseen force several times and I was playing this beautiful piano piece that I wasn't even playing.
	It was like something else.
	However, like a dragon floated his head in my house.
	And then looked at me and I said, were you attracted by this music?
	And he just closed his eyes, one wink, and then floated out like his body was above my house.
	It was just so weird.
	I couldn't even believe that.
	It was love.
	He was attracted.
	The dark force was attracted by love.
	I think they truly want to know that.
	And that's why they're here with us.
	Because we're here as their teachers, but they don't know it yet.
	Yeah, I call them the dark teacher to those that are asleep, and then we're the teacher to them to help give them, you know, a place to return to because there is forgiveness.
	And that's, you know, the whole thing.
	We don't, the Christ consciousness or, you know, that it's all about protection and it's all about forgiveness.
	And so that's, we can't stoop to the level and continue this war, so.
	Yes, Lady Eisenhower, I concur.
	I'm going to have to ask you, you know, we need to go to another caller at this time, but thank you, Donna, very much for your time.
	Thank you very much.
	I truly appreciated this time to share and be with, you know, this vibration.
	Awesome.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay.
	Okay, so we're going to go to another caller and let's see if we can do this.
	Hold on one second here.
	Sorry, the logistics of this board.
	Okay, caller, it says anonymous.
	So I think I've gotten you unmuted.
	I'm not sure this seems to be working kind of weird.
	There we go.
	Okay, anonymous, you are on the air with Carrie Cassidy and Laura Eisenhower.
	Hello?
	Okay, going, going.
	Sorry, gone.
	Okay, I guess they somehow disappeared.
	We've got another caller from area code 347.
	You're on the air with Laura Eisenhower and Carrie Cassidy.
	Hey, Laura and Kerry, this is John calling from Boston.
	Big fan of you both.
	So I'll just get right to it, because I know time is short.
	The whole concept of energy harvesting, be it spiritual, sexual, whatnot, what I like to call sort of energy vampirism.
	I mean, are there any kind of techniques, whether we're doing in meditation or any kind of grid work, where you can sort of Sure that it's it's not being channeled for other detrimental purposes or is there anything like that or really beyond our control?
	Yeah, totally.
	I mean, the thing is, connecting with Mother Earth, even sitting against a tree and just really connecting with her vibration is crucial.
	Even though there's a lot of, you know, darkness and a lot of technologies and this and that, we have to understand the reptilian energy is the lower octave of the serpentine energy, and Kundalini is the higher octave.
	So, when we can really get in touch with that, we really clear our chakras and we open ourselves up while still utilizing a similar vibration.
	I mean, everything is based on, you know, dimensions.
	And the highest dimension, the Pleroma, is, you know, where the pure light is and the infinite love.
	And every dimension beneath it is a copy of it, but a weakened copy.
	And to the point you get to where we are, where it's so weakened that most people are lost and easily controlled and they're just completely in duality and have no wholeness because wholeness protects a being.
	When we're whole in unity consciousness, parasitic forces and dark energies can't feed on it.
	So when we simply repair ourselves and really dig deep and just go through whatever we need to go through in the most organic way, cry, do whatever, you know, connect and just focus on what sacred union means, you know, being with a partner in a real way and all those type of things, really getting down to just the simplicity of, you know, just being a good really getting down to just the simplicity of, you know, just being a good person who cares about the right things
	Seriously, you know, the expansion that happens, the light body gets activated, you know, you start making the right choices, you feel motivated and inspired, you connect with Mother Earth realizing that she's been afflicted, she's been poisoned, but her spirit's incorruptible and she's going to recover because she's all-powerful, you know, that we can do it too.
	These simple things, really aligning to this stuff, I feel is the ultimate protection.
	It certainly protected me.
	And I know Carrie probably has something awesome to say, so I'll stop there.
	No, no, I think that that's very well said.
	Beautiful.
	Excellent.
	And I just want to say that over the weekend when I was speaking at this conference, we talked about Kundalini energy, and I talk about that in my talk.
	And what I want to say here is that people have to understand that the feathered serpent is the mastering of the serpentine energy.
	In other words, that you rise above it and that those feathers represent flight.
	They represent transcendence.
	And so if a lot of people see Quetzalcoatl on the South American monuments, they have to understand that this is what your task is, is mastering that energy and becoming the master of that energy.
	Taking control of it and using that to raise all the vibrations of your chakras and join them in enlightenment.
	So I'm going to let you go, Collar.
	It looks like we're going to come to a break here and we'll be right back with Laura Eisenhower.
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	You raise up your head.
	And you ask, is this where it is?
	And somebody points to you and says, it's his.
	Oh, yeah.
	And you say, what's mine?
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	OK, this is Terry Cassidy, Project Camelot, Mr. Blower Radio, and we are talking to Laura Eisenhower and great music.
	So, Laura, are you still there?
	Yep.
	Okay, great.
	I don't know if you had anything else you wanted to add.
	We can go to some more callers, or if you have something you wanted to say about, you know, some of the things that have been said, feel free.
	Oh, I just, yeah, I just kind of got this flash.
	I mean, we need to bring, you know, a lot of these people to justice, but we have to also understand that Regardless of what happens to the people that we bring to justice, we're still dealing with the extraterrestrials that have been influencing them, and that it's much larger than the people.
	And that it's really just, it's between us and them.
	I mean, it's really a personal thing that we have to break away from.
	We need to bring it to justice, but it's a personal battle.
	Yeah, I have to say that that's, you know, very wise words.
	I think it's very interesting.
	You know, people, when they are talking, a lot of times they're talking about changing the system and seeing the destruction around them.
	And in this time, there is a positive side to destruction, because if you destroy what is, or if it's falling, the old is falling away.
	This is not a bad thing and what will take its place will be something new and will be something positive and better if we make sure that that happens.
	But the other thing is punishment or, you know, wanting to sort of rape people over the coals that have been influenced unduly by the negative beings and entities and races that have been influencing this planet and at war for many, many eons with each other.
	I think that leaving it on the human level is really missing the point completely.
	So I think that people need to rethink that.
	And I think that that's a very good point.
	I think it needs to be talked about and dealt with.
	And it would just be really great if people could start sort of widening their view of the playing field that we're dealing with here.
	Right, absolutely.
	I agree.
	So, okay, we have a caller here and they are from Area Code 734.
	You're on the air with Laura Eisenhower and Kerry Cassidy.
	Hi, Kerry.
	Hi, Laura.
	Hi, there.
	Hi, there.
	Dave from Ann Arbor.
	I really like the show so far.
	I had a question about, I've been, you know, doing, like most of us, doing research about everything that's going on and one thing I What I read recently was William Bramley's The Gods of Eden.
	I don't know, you're probably familiar with it.
	But it speaks a lot about how this negative group or force or whatever has sort of duplicated falsely our spirituality into these religions and kind of confused us and kept us really just in Neutral and lost for all this time.
	And, well, they kind of took over the planet, and I guess other people I've read Joseph Farrell and stuff have said, you know, described them building this network of, like, replacing all our sacred places on the Earth grid with their own sort of, you know, temples and stuff like that to harness our energies.
	And I'm thinking if we're going to confront them, kind of like you were saying, we've got to, you know, not only take back or infuse positive energy into, like, the sacred spaces of the Earth, but kind of confront this negative grid that they've constructed.
	It's built into, like, Washington D.C.
	and London and everything, and we have to, you know, confront our own, you know, the lies we've told ourselves and everything, but we also kind of, once that's done, you know, sort I mean, isn't that something we need to do?
	Isn't that magnifying their power?
	Uh, yeah.
	I mean, that's the danger.
	It's, you know, the electronic or the chipping sort of networking kind of like beast computer type thing.
	It's definitely, you know, something.
	But the thing is, it's a lower fourth dimensional technology.
	Um, and it does not work when people are in a frequency that's higher than it.
	And even Looking Glass Technologies couldn't see past 2012, but yet Andrew Bishago with ChronoVision was able to go to different timelines beyond 2012.
	So we have to realize, you know, thought forms are similar to timelines.
	Um, and there's subpersonalities and artificial timelines that are like, you know, subpersonalities of ourselves.
	You know, aspects of ourselves that aren't really true to who we are.
	We can tell it's not really us.
	And we can also look at this invasion and this attack just like, you know, a human body relates to disease.
	We have the immune system and then we have, you know, germs, diseases, and parasites.
	We have to understand it like we understand ourselves or we're never going to understand how to get out of it.
	We end up making it way too complex.
	If we understand the way the human body works and the way we deal with energy, we can start to answer some of these questions.
	How do we overcome stuff?
	How do we increase the immune system?
	How do we get rid of artificial energies and false aspects of ourselves?
	And really just start with ourselves and really giving people the encouragement and inspiration to do it without, you know, turning them off because of preaching or telling them what they should do.
	Being the example is what's going to inspire people.
	Sometimes, you know, all it takes is being the example to get people really just excited.
	But, of course, it's been woven into our culture, and the programmings and mind control have been woven in for thousands of years, so it's going to be easier for some than others, and those that it's easy for have a particular responsibility and agreements to be here to do this.
	But that's all I can say is to really relate it to yourself and just see, you know, how you would handle these sort of structures on a micro level.
	And then we can start to address the macro level when it begins to make sense to our own inner solution.
	Our own minds grasping what we need to do to solve it.
	And, you know, boosting the immune system is connected to the Venus transits, is connected to the four chakra, which connects to the T cells.
	So, you know, this is all very natural.
	I mean, we are born ascended beings.
	We have just been invaded to be set on a different course.
	We just need to get it back.
	And once we do that, I mean, they're like a splinter that's going to be ejected out of our reality.
	I mean, they really don't hold any power.
	I think that that's very good.
	And I think that we have to say, though, that whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
	In other words, there was a reason for this, for us entering into this fallen state in order to make our way back in an even more enlightened and self-aware sort of way, you know, where God is or source is recognizing itself and becoming even more powerful over the dark. where God is or source is recognizing itself and becoming In the process of fighting the dark, you become stronger.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And it's like it's all about getting back on the axis.
	The goddess getting back on her axis.
	The planet was traumatized.
	It threw her into third dimensional energy.
	And that's where the frequency barrier was set in place.
	And so the ET race has been taking advantage of it, almost like a technology that it's become, which connects to the time control.
	Um, so yes, I mean, my gosh, we have to sometimes thank the dark side.
	A lot of light beings play the dark role in order to wake us up.
	And, you know, if we didn't have the negative polarity, a lot of people would be just kind of like taking full advantage of our reality and completely taking it for granted.
	So I absolutely thank the dark side, and I'm so glad you said that.
	As much as You know, there's elements that I do not think, and that I do think are just vile and wrong.
	There's certain elements of it that have served us, and that's what the Tree of Good and Evil is about.
	That's what the lessons of duality are about.
	And it's not a big accident.
	To some, they think it is, but the larger picture, when one can really see the whole picture, they know exactly what's going on.
	And the Illumini only functions on a need-to-know basis, so they can't even see the larger picture.
	We need to tap into the larger picture, and we can have some peace of mind.
	Because, you know, there's a lot on our side, and it's all for reasons that we can't quite grasp, but I absolutely agree with you, Carrie.
	Okay, thank you caller very much for your call.
	Is that okay with you if we go to the next caller or did you have something else you wanted to say?
	Oh, no, that was great.
	Very good.
	Thanks a lot.
	Okay.
	Thank you very much.
	So, we have very limited time here.
	Sorry to move everyone along here, but that's kind of the nature of the situation.
	We only have a few more minutes.
	I'm going to try to take this last call.
	Erico, 310, you're on the air with Laura Eisenhower and Kerry Cassidy.
	Hi, Laura and Gary.
	Well, if we have enough time, Laura, I was wondering if you could tell us anything about... I know Andrew Passagiaggio, or however you say the last name, had said that Barry Satoru Obama was part of your program.
	Yeah, he was in the program I was in.
	I was pre-identified in 1972 before I was born by Project Pegasus, but I was never in it like Andrew was.
	Andrew was in a training program with Barry Satoro, who is Obama, and him and William Stillings say that they saw him on Mars, and that, yes, he definitely was in the training program, and Regina Dugan was as well.
	So I just, you know, I back them up.
	I've listened to them a lot.
	And they're definitely trying to sort out the information in the most humble and responsible way.
	So yeah, that's what they say.
	And I don't doubt it.
	What about Ed James?
	Was he, did you, were you one of the students?
	He was the trainer of the Mars program.
	And actually when I was on Costa Cos with Andrew, he came on and And cussed everybody out.
	It was kind of funny.
	I remember that.
	They had to turn it off.
	You didn't hear it.
	Actually, it didn't pick up live.
	Well, the thing, it almost discredited James because if it wasn't true, why would he say anything?
	Why do you have to go there and try to convince?
	I mean, it sounded like he was covering his mouth.
	Becoming triggered is always an interesting dynamic.
	You know, when something triggers you, there's something going on there.
	There's no doubt about it.
	So, yeah, I mean...
	Caller, did you have any specific question?
	Because we actually have very limited time.
	No, no.
	That's it.
	Fine.
	That's fine.
	Thank you.
	I just wanted to say, too, you know, it's a big worry that, you know, they've made these agreements and their life is on the line if they don't serve these E.T.
	agendas.
	And they almost did have to sell themselves to it.
	And I just hope to retrieve them and get them out of those agreements, because I really can feel the terror and just why they're trying to pull it off.
	I'm sure they really don't want to, but they're very pressured on some level.
	Wouldn't you say, Kerry?
	Yeah, I think that some of these people are being used by both sides, and they're fighting for the light, but they've also got certain, as you say, agreements, pre-agreements that they've made, and in certain ways they are sort of captured by all of it.
	Uh, I just think if you look at the body of the grays, you understand what devoting yourself to technology over spirit does to you.
	And, uh, that path should be very clear.
	Yeah!
	Yes, future human selves, as Dan Burris said.
	Yeah.
	I mean, do you want to go there?
	I don't.
	No!
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